>> today, president biden campaigns for the nominees in the 2022 races for senate and governor at a labor day event at a union steelworkers hall in pennsylvania. live coverage begins at 5:30 p.m. eastern on c-span. host: labor 1894, 140 years ago today, the first known labor day parade made its way down broadway in manhattan. in the face of rising economic inequities between workers and employers, 140 years later parade step off this morning. the characters and causes have changed, especially in this

election year. good morning and welcome it to washington journal on this monday, labor day, september 5. we ask you which palooka party is more pro-worker. democrats use the line (202) 748-8000. republicans (202) 748-8001. independents (202) 748-8002. we have a line for union workers, that is (202) 748-8003. you can use that line it to text us a message, include your name and where you are texting from. we are on facebook and twitter and instagram. send us your comments. we will get an update momentarily on the latest numbers in terms of the job seen it, unemployment numbers and the economy. we will hear from the president last week on the economy, on jobs in particular. we should hear from overseas,

from the u.k. and the new prime minister is set to be announced. we will let you know about it. on labor day, this is the letter from an american column, from a boston university history professor, writing about labor day. from heather cox richards.

which party is more pro-worker? (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8001 four republicans. independents (202) 748-8002.

we will get to your calls momentarily. we are joined by a business reporter, a labor department reporter for limburg law. thank you for joining us this morning. guest: thank you for having me. host: we got the jobs numbers on a friday, three had a 15,000 jobs added in august. unemployment is 3.7%. what is the state of the labor market in the economy, especially as we head into an election season in just over nine weeks? guest: >> looking at the top line number, we did see unemployment take up slightly in august this is may a good thing. we added more workers to the labor force, more people are interested in participating and searching for a job, which is a

good thing. when it comes to the state of the labor force, workers have seen a considerable gain since the beginning of the pandemic, keeping in mind the devastation that a lot of people felt with no job and being laid off in some industries where the work was thought to never come back. because of the risks people had to navigate during the pandemic, employers have had to give higher wages. we've seen a huge burst of organizing among lower wage workers who are fed up by the stagnant pay they've seen over the years prior to the pandemic and the lack of benefits. coronavirus really peeled back

what workers faced. host: you think that new leverage is as strong with white-collar workers as it is with blue-collar workers? guest: it's interesting. prior to the pandemic, i had a theory that we were seeing a burst of organizing among white-collar workers because they had the financial ability to better take risks at work. if you're trying to unionize your workplace and you get fired or retaliated against, a white-collar worker may have a retirement account or savings with more agency to do so. the pandemic and all of the risks that were revealed make that calculus different for some lower wage workers who were realizing they weren't see -- were seen a lot of risk on the job. we've seen that with starbucks

workers. there has been a successful union drive in new york by the amazon labor union. we are not talking about legacy powerful unions. that was completely worker led. they didn't have the money or the attorneys or the power that a well-established union it would have. that's been a huge bellwether for what could come. host: is this in other data, are the effects of the aid provided by the pandemic during the trump administration and the by demonstration, is that being fit -- felt in the labor force? guest: largely, a lot of businesses have dwindled out that money, whether it was used for savings. it's been several months since workers have seen a cash

infusion. at this point, that's no longer what we saw. the extra stimulus money did key people out of poverty for a little while. until the economic aid ended. host: you mention starbucks and amazon it workers, do you think the administration -- those victories happen because of this administration is more prounion it? guest: yes. unions were so excited with president joe biden uttering the word union and nearly every policy proposal he brings up. i was skeptical. we are starting to see not only this growth in people seeking representation, but the

popularity of unions is the highest it's been since the 1960's. gallup put out a very interesting poll showing this growth over the past year. at the end of august, 71% of americans approve of labor unions. that is up from 64% before the pandemic. people say they may be a good thing for workers. host: rebecca is from bloomberg. you can read her reporting. thank you so much for being with us this morning. guest: i appreciate you having me. host: which political party is more pro-worker? (202) 748-8000 is the line for democrats. (202) 748-8001 four republicans. independents (202) 748-8002.

you can use (202) 748-8003, send us a text on that line. that is also our line from union workers. here is a comment by text. this is john in st. paul. joe in hartford, kentucky. steve is first up in florida on the mcgrath line. good morning. -- democrats line. caller: i agree with that last text. the republicans are the ones that when after the unions. during the in reagan admin -- during the regular ministration, they gutted the unions from

their negotiating power. it was the reagan administration, they set up the antiunion propaganda saying they priced themselves and were responsible for shoddy work. they did an effective job of brainwashing. the creation of the right to work state, a lot of federal judges really killed labor friendly legislation. host: have you been a union worker in the past? caller: it's funny. i worked in a manufacturing plant in ohio in the 70's. the only time i was a union worker was during a stent where i worked for the state of

pennsylvania in college. i was a member of the american federation of federal employees for a couple of years. it was good team in the union. -- being in the union. hopefully, they make a comeback. i think it's very important for our economy as a whole to have workers to have a collective voice and leverage. host: we will hear from maryland outside the nation's capital. caller: yes. when i heard the introduction, the group for free labor. that i hear right?

host: are you talking about the piece we read earlier? caller: right. host: i would direct you to that piece by the historian heather cox richardson. you can read the full piece on her letter from an american that came out yesterday. paul is in new york. caller: good morning. my book mentions this kind of thought. what happened to prowess? when i was in the union to be a teacher, i broke the picket line because children had to make money on the train.

their mothers had to go to work. what happened to prowess, getting paid because of your ability? the government wrecking the economy. a crane operator, $60 an hour. they make more money than a surgeon. they've got to pay liability insurance. my point is this. unions are not necessary. what is necessary for the government to step in where people are being abused. let's the name of that burger company that has the whopper? host: are you talking about

burger king? caller: yes. their burgers are made from the finest ingredients. host: we will let you go with that commercial. thanks for calling. (202) 748-8000 democrats. (202) 748-8001 republicans. independents (202) 748-8002. rebecca mentioned this in our conversation a few minutes ago. this is the gallup poll. u.s. approval of labor unions at the highest point since 1965. they write:

i want to show you this one chart. they asked the question, are you or anyone in your household a member of a labor union. this is how many said yes. the total of that union households, 16%. nonunion households were 84%. that's in terms of the gallup poll. on that pole, some analysis from cnbc. their headline:

president biden spoke in pennsylvania, talking about the jobs numbers. here is president biden. >> we received more good news, the economy created 315,000 new jobs. the great americans job machine continues its comeback,

americans are working more, building an economy from the bottom up and the middle out. we have now created nearly 10 million new jobs since i took office. their lead 10 million jobs, the fastest growth in all of american history. in august, we saw the share of americans working on the economy went up. that is labor force participation rate. working age, women are for the first time back at work at rates not seen since before the pandemic. wages are up. unemployment is near a 50 year low. yesterday, we got data that showed manufacturing orders are up. supply chain items are beginning to ease. the week before that, data showed the price increase may ease as well.

jobs are up, wages are up, people are back to work. we see signs that inflation may be beginning to ease. gas prices have now fallen 80 straight days. if the fastest decline in over a decade. the price of the pump is now $1.20 less than it was at the beginning of the summer. america has good news going into labor day weekend. host: that is the president friday at the white house. he is on the road today in milwaukee and then near pittsburgh. he will be speaking this afternoon. we will have live coverage on c-span. you can follow on our free mobile app and at c-span.org. which party is more pro-worker? (202) 748-8000 is the line for

democrats. (202) 748-8001 republicans. union members, (202) 748-8003. a couple of comments from twitter. eric is a member calling from massachusetts. good morning. caller: happy labor day. i am a member of a federal government union. i would be considered a white collar position. i've been a member of the in for many years. it's not as powerful as the

teamsters union. it is a union. in my experience, the unions going back to theo obama era, they were gaga over obama. we literally got 0% raises for several years. the unit still double down. he didn't do anything for us. one of the things they want to advocate for unions, there is a high support for unions now as you stated. however, when i ask people are you having electrical work dinner house, is it a union company? that would cost too much.

they have no problem advocating for unions for public jobs. that adds to the burden on the taxpayer. i lost my thought. host: what do you think is the biggest benefit you get from being a union member? caller: honestly, from a federal government perspective, i don't think there is a lot. i will say i never understood the dichotomy. my federal building is beautiful. i would see ironworkers building a building next to us. they were out there in all the elements. i'm sure they were union ironworkers. they worked like dogs on the coldest days of the year.

i can't imagine being on the 39th floor of a building in boston. then they would leave work and go home. one of my points was, the question should be who is more non-worker? who is more pro-voter. i do think the democratic party are advocating for pulling people over the border. talk about starbucks workers who are willing to work for cheaper wages, we are creating an undercurrent of millions of people that have come in that are willing to work for much less. how is that going to help nonunion or otherwise? that's my thought. host: to brian in pennsylvania. go ahead. caller: good morning.

happy labor day. i find things to be -- it's like a trick question. i find that the republican party is more pro-business. they are more pro-private sector business. that improves the job aspects of the private sector workers. in small companies, not so much in large companies. in recent years with covid, things like -- there's been a plan to crush small business. as far as the democrats are concerned, they are probably more pro-worker in the public sector. they love the public sector

unions. he was a federal worker. the way i look at it, the democrats would love for everyone to work for the government. it seems like they are more communistic. the republicans are hard on the workforce in the private sector because they have to perform. you have more competition then government. i think it's a bit of a trick question. happy labor day. host: thanks for answering. we will go to robert in maryland. which political party is more pro-worker? caller: good morning. definitely the democrat party is more pro-worker. there advocating for higher

wages, to end right to work laws. they are trying to pass the right to organize act. the only three not signed on were -- the democratic party is interested in higher wages and advocating for labor. as the gentleman before me said, republicans are more interested in business. business workers do not have the same interest at heart. if your company is making more money, they are not looking to pass that on to workers. trickle-down economics is false. i'm a union worker myself. i am based out of silver spring, maryland. host: what kind of work do you do? caller: i work for a group on

capitol hill myself. they represent a lot of the white collar members. it's time for workers to take power back. workers are tired of low wages and harsh treatment and that's everywhere from construction to service, all the way to office workers. host: do you think the covid pandemic and the last couple of years have made it a better scenario for workers, more competition for better wages and other jobs other than where they are? caller: that's definitely much better for workers. workers can refuse low wages somewhere.

they can get higher wages somewhere else. the managers and owners are not happy that they are being forced to pay competitive wages. the pandemic is turned the tide in the favor of workers. host: this is from the group. union deletes document after a report shows collusion. they write:

-- target and recruit nonunion workers in the federal government. kevin mccarthy responding to the economic conditions, the reporting of the unemployment number last week. your comments on the biden administration. here's a look. all right, we will show that to you in just a bit. we will go to benjamin, winter garden, florida, on the independent line oh ahead. caller: i have been for the public sector and worked for the private sector. pro-worker is definitely the democratic party. each issue could be judge

separately, but republicans, i used to live in the massachusetts area, like the caller before. i don't know what planet the caller before was living on, but we have unions that give benefits. they have the ability to work from home, better insurance that you get, pensions, which are few and far between these days. republicans are the opposite. what they do is create right to work states, where you could be in a union, and someone else's and a union because it is right to work, and they are not paying the dues. that all goes to the party. the dues help support the issues that have to pass in order to get us benefits, because the less benefits putting into the trough, the more we can put at the bargaining table. the caller prior, a half-hour ago talked about the reagan administration, and that is how it is done.

what you have seen under trump and obama and biden, you could say unions, yes, but whoso it's them? our country is doing well for my understanding, unions pulled very high back in 1965 and then they talked about income inequality, and how things changed when unions lost their power at the bargaining table. the wages went down. host: our unions a factor there in winter garden, florida? caller: we are a right to work state, so it is a different ballgame. the power of the unions is significantly less than states where it is not right to work. try being a worker at disney making 12 bucks an hour buying a house these days. versus other places where unions have a lot more stronger power, stronger at the bargaining table, you know? when i see that question, obviously it's the democrats, you know? that's the specific issue as an

independent voter for me. host: our line for union members, (202) 748-8003. susan, go ahead. caller: two things. i am still low union member -- a union member, working part-time for my union, but i am also retired. i am part of the new york city-based public workers, and while democrats are more prounion, especially in new york city, for retired workers, they are taking away a lot of the health benefits they promised us from medicare. we are having a big fight right now with unions, specifically the labor unions and the usp in new york, just trying to take away our health care. host: susan, thanks for calling

in. the line for workers, (202) 748-8003, union workers. we mentioned kevin mccarthy, the majority leader in pennsylvania, a state of much focus in the last couple of days and through the election, with president trump speaking over their weekend, and former president joe biden speaking there -- and president joe biden speaking there last week. kevin mccarthy speaking in scranton, pennsylvania. [video clip] >> in the past month alone, i have traveled over 20 states and met with republican members and thousands of their constituents. tonight, i want to share with you what i heard from americans across this country. what is clear to me and clear to you is that washington and the white house aren't listening. they just don't get it. you have never been more worried, more alarmed by the

direction of our country. yet they tell you everything is fine. you worry that your children will have less opportunity than you did. yet they tell you things are looking up. you fear that america is becoming poor. less safe. less respected and less free by the day. and yet they tell you the border is safe in america, and it is secure. the white house says inflation is transitory. deficits don't matter and the spike in crime is just a bump in the road. yet you know that doesn't add up. that's where we are different. i don't dismiss your fears. i share them. and i will go to congress this

year and share your unwavering conviction that we must change direction in washington but or it is too late. -- before it is too late. host: labor day weekend would not be complete without a parade and a politician participating in that parade. this unique celebration brings people together and it would not be complete without football either. senator joni ernst with a killer kick off to the college football season, the home team dominated with a 42-10 win. our question this morning, which political party is more pro-worker? (202) 748-8000 is the line for democrats. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independence and all others, (202) 748-8002.

let's hear from george in kentucky. caller: the plurality of our workforce is in a variety of ways, some skilled, some not. it allows workers to work in fast-paced retail outlets, chain diners, is not necessarily unskilled. being a short order cook, that's a very hard, demanding job. but the district of corporate managers are hard-core antiunion, whatever, 99.9% of them are hard or gop -- hard-core gopers. they want to be able to invade workers privacy in the work place, and you think, you

want industry and big companies telling them what they can and cannot do. but they will tell employees that if you share pay information with your coworkers, they will terminate you. that is a clear violation of the protected concerted activities clause in national labor relations. but the conservatives do not care about law & order until it infringes on them anyway, the conservatives are guaranteed to be anti-worker every way possible. that's my point. host: let's hear from danny, a union member in denver. caller: i am a retired teamster member, and i believe the democratic party is more representative of unions. biden is prounion, i am

prounion. i ran for political office on a platform of unionizing the city workers here in denver, and i believe unions are the reason we have benefits, paid days off, eight hour workdays, and many other things. unions help distribute the wealth that corporate america owns. corporate america runs everything in the united states and the only way to distribute some of the wealth that they have is for people to join unions, people that have unions to unionize workers, all across the country. they are afraid of the unions. that is why we do not have them. i hate to keep going on without some kind of comment from you guys. host: the form is to hear from you, danny, and we appreciate your opinion.

this morning's washington post, our guest later in the program, lauren kaoria, she writes in the piece published this morning, a construction company needs workers so badly, they are flying them in from puerto rico and texas and paying $20 an hour to install roofs. halloween retailer books hundreds of hotel rooms across the city to house their labor force. the unemployment rate in this metro area of minnesota is even lower than the state average since federal labor statistics began tracking data. she writes the u.s. labor market is in its 20th month of eye-popping job creation, as worker shortages, abundant dog growth and mass resignations have become a hallmark of the recovery after the pandemic and

widespread inflation. rockwood, illinois is next -- rockford, tennessee, ray on the independent line. go ahead. caller: yeah, i am an 83-year-old. i worked in chicago in the 1960's. i helped build sears tower, the standard oil building, all of that. i was a union carpenter. ok? along come the 1970's, and i lived in that state and i want to know what happened. you got affirmative action for blacks when they got writes. then mccarver came along and you got chapter nine for women, that made them a minority. so they get on the job and say, i don't need no union. i got the government to support me. if you discriminate against me, because i am in a minority i

won't join the union. then along came bill clinton, who sent everything to mexico. all the car manufacturing went to mexico. people here on the tv this morning are telling me how democrats are all prounion? democrats and ronald reagan together helped destroy the unions in this country, and the unions will never come back. host: to danny in hollister, california, republican line. go ahead. caller: yes, my dad was a union member for 40 years and he always spoke highly about, when he retires, how much money he was going to make from his pension. i went into the iew training program in 1970 and stayed there until i was drafted into the military. anyway, what i found out, after my dad retired -- oh, by the

way, the training program for construction workers is the best in the world. i will say, that is a great thing about the labor unions, as far as construction goes. now, after my dad retired, the measly pension he got was nothing to what he thought he was going to get. he had to go get another job. a man, 65 years old had to go get another job that was unrelated to being an electrician. and he had to move to southeast alabama to stretch that dollar. that taught me something after i got out of the military. i decided not to go back to the union and went to college instead and became an engineer. i am retired myself and have made plenty of money in silicon valley, that's why i am here.

i find people on here who say democrats are prounion are, that's one thing -- on union jobs, they work where they tell you you can work. you cannot go out and use your skills anywhere else that is not sanctioned by a union. so that's the bad thing. i will say there is some good and some bad about labor unions. public service unions, i don't think should ever be in existence because there is an attitude that i see that gives them an air of superiority over anybody that's trying to get some of the services. that's my statement today, and happy labor day to america. host: views from the united kingdom reported here by reuters.

britain's next prime minister should be asked finance minister sunak and boris johnson will step down on tuesday, incoming prime minister truss will meet with queen elizabeth as well, announcing the formation of a new government. washington, d.c. up next, the independent line. john, go ahead. caller: hi, i wanted to say, you have to be careful about which politicians you quote. you know now, and this is very factual, not political, that there were nine other republicans who were lying there but often public -- their butt off in public. when you have kevin mccarthy on the line, you know most of what he is saying is bs.

i think it's bad for public radio to be disseminating this kind of information. furthermore, this is related but a little bit distant, i don't think it's fair to talk about inflation when you are talking about unions. super powers throughout history have had problems with inflation. immigration also transcends politics in general. i think the whole discussion is very distorted and i think that c-span's have to be more responsible on these issues. i don't even think it is fair that you are talking about it. that's all i have to say. thanks for taking my call. host: john, our job here is to

hear from you and present has many views from public officials and others as possible on the issue. kevin mccarthy is the minority leader of the house, of course. dennis is up next in rapid city, south dakota. caller: thank you for taking my call. quite a while back, i don't know if it was you, but i was a truck driver for 43 years. i was in the union, then reagan came in and fired all the air traffic controllers. he was most antiunion president we have had. the reason i am saying that, all the trucking companies i used to work for, all of them were union, went under. we've got more unions and government now than we do in private industry -- i could be wrong now, we just lost a union

boss -- well, he wasn't my boss, but he was murdered. we don't know how. i have an idea, i could just be guessing, but the unions is what built this country, whether it's car companies, construction, electricians, plumbers, you name it. host: does the union benefit you? do you get a pension from your union? caller: i got a little bit a pension left yet, to this day, but they used to say, they all belonged to the mob. that's what makes me mad. when a president says -- we just lost trumka. he was a good union boss. he died of natural causes, but i tell you what, big business is too big. right now you see starbucks, amazon, they are trying to organize. but they are so big they don't

have a chance. host: politico this morning about the president's travels on this labor day. heading to wisconsin, leaving this morning from washington and stopping in wisconsin, speaking there. later to pittsburgh, we will cover that at the steelworkers hall there in pittsburgh. his nationwide address on friday still resonating on the sunday shows yesterday in texas congressman michael all saying republicans were offended at some of the tone president i'd instruct. -- president biden struck. [video clip] >> if this was a speech to unify the american people, it had the opposite effect. it basically condemned all republicans who supported donald trump in the last election -- that's over 70 million people. saying that republicans are a threat to democracy is really a

slap in the face. you know my vote on certification and my position on that. i took an oath to the constitution, but you don't come out to unify the nation. this was not a presidential address, by the way. it was a political speech. it was not even carried by your network or other two major networks, because it was so political. it was a campaign speech before the midterm elections, and that's how i see it. >> how much should donald trump be blames for the biz -- blamed for the division in this country? he says biden is an enemy of the state and has called the left-wing fascist in the past. >> i've wished the president could be a little more like

abraham lincoln, who did not condemn the democrats it the south -- in the south at the time. i think you failed to do that in this speech that he gave. host: mike mccaul this week. tweeting a comment from teddy roosevelt -- no man need sympathy to work, because he can carry the prize far and away what the burden offers -- and today we celebrate the hard-working men and women of america -- happy labor day. the chair of education and labor subcommittee, we need to protect and support american workers. lester is in burdette, minnesota on the republican line. caller: yeah, i am a vietnam vet

and i am 80 years old, so i have seen some stuff that has gone on in the labor force. i worked after i got out of college in the military. i worked in the mines in minnesota as a millwright. host: and was that a union job? caller: yes. and i could see what the union was doing to the companies. they couldn't afford to buy new stuff, and all we were doing was repairing the equipment. you look at the mines now, they are closed because the unions fought for 13 weeks vacation, and when i got laid off and they closed the mines, a year later,

i still got 13 weeks vacation. i called them up and asked what it was for. they said, you had that coming. the mines now are closed, and these people, who are working there, they lost their jobs. host: do you think the mines closed because of economic pressures from the union or other reasons? caller: right, that's why they closed, strictly. they tried to say there was not enough iron there, but there was enough iron there to last for another 100 years, because that's what engineers have said. you could see it. you could see the iron. host: to bobby next, a union member in west virginia. caller: good morning. i hope you give me a little bit of time. i am a mine worker, local 1440, historical west virginia, where

the battle of may 1 massacre occurred back in 1920. i would like to say, i am a proud bmw a coalminer -- vmwa coalminer, but i worked for a dozen different companies and it seems like when it came down to voting for president, the company would always use supervisors to try to intimidate us and put pressure on us to vote for the republican party. you know, i have never heard of a republican lawmaker getting up on the floor and trying to promote organized labor. i will tell you another thing too, if you give me a little bit

of time -- in the state of tennessee, the senators and congressmen down there, this was about a year or two back -- no, maybe about four years. volkswagen was coming in and putting a plant in the state of tennessee, and the volkswagen company did not care if their employees wanted to go union or not. but the lawmakers in the state of tennessee put pressure on the workers and said, if you guys have a union here, we are not going to have businesses wanting to come into our state, tennessee. definitely, the democratic party is prolabor. host: thanks for your input this morning. this is an opinion post in the washington post this morning -- unions are going more popular. democrats should talk about that.

when the workers win, it makes for an unlikely and dramatic story. on another front, the hot labor market has made for favorable conditions for labor organizing, thus the time seems ripe for democrats to amplify the discussion of unions. we are also seeing a rebuilding of the manufacturing base, the investments in the computer chip industry and green manufacturing jobs. it has moved from its neoliberal orientation in the 1990's and 2000, and talking about organized labor unions more could help shift the sentiment to voters. we will go to fred in jessup, maryland. go ahead. caller: good morning, everybody. i have worked in the private sector my whole life, and i have always been did -- been using my merit as a worker for me.

when i needed a raise, i went to the boss, he knew i showed up every day, but if he didn't, i would get matched with somebody else who wasn't going to lose me. today's unions are 100% political. most of the union members don't even vote democrat, but behind the scenes, they can't acknowledge that. the money is going the way of the democrat party, it goes back and forth each election cycle. i live in most of the cities that have been controlled by democrats, the cities and the government union keep those guys in charge. that's why the cities are always going to fail, year after year, because of those unions. hostess bakery in baltimore city the drivers refused to load up cupcakes. they only wanted to handle the bread section, so they had to

hire other drivers at a cost to the company. unions are like leeches. they suck life out of the company so they cannot operate anymore, then move on to their next victim. host: this next viewer on twitter -- unions donate money to democrats, democrats donate money to unions, repeat. our next caller in maryland, democrat line. go ahead. caller: good morning, everyone. i believe the democrats are the ones that are more pro-worker, pro-everyday working person. now, we should remember yes, clinton signed whatever that legislation was to send jobs overseas -- that legislation was started by the republicans, i believe under bush.

bush one or two. anyway, the democrats under obama, they were trying to bring those jobs back home. during the 2000's, multinational companies cut their workforces in the u.s. by 2.9 million while increasing overseas employment by 2.4 million. the republicans voted several times against any legislation to bring those jobs back home, so no. republicans are not pro-worker, they are not pro-anything. also, i would like to go back to the fact that the republicans are talking about the democrats at the cpac, in their background, they say we are all domestic terrorists. at the bottom of the stage, there is a symbol with some words, which mean, it echoes a

fascist symbol used as a badge by the nazi ss during world war ii. host: we are going to get one more call on the issue. tom in fresno county, california. caller: thank you for taking my call. i have issues with representative mccarthy relating to anything to do with workers. he comes from an area that is dependent upon immigrant and migrant labor force. while he rails against the border. at the same time, his region takes more farm subsidies and market facilitation money then any other region. secondly, he rails against crime

. his city, bakersfield, has a higher crime rate then both new york city and chicago. which he plays on a loop. the same >> the same can be said for grand junction, colorado with representative boebert. host: that is all the calls for this segment. there is more ahead. next, we talk politics, campaign 2022. the managing editor will join us, the topic, campaign 20 and what is ahead this election season. later, we dive into the issue affecting american workers. the latest unionization efforts across the country and a piece in washington post. ♪