then this evening at six, watch as nash a crash a spacecraft into an asteroid to test whether an asteroid's path can be redirected in space, all of this live on c-span and their free video app, c-span now. host: good morning. it we are 40 days out from the midterm. both parties are working hard to convince voters they should be trusted on economic issues like jobs and fighting inflation. the latest polling shows that social issues like abortion and voting rights are dividing voters. we want to hear which issues is more important to your midterm vote. our economic issues more

important? if so, call in at (202) 748-8000 . if it's more about social issues, (202) 748-8001 is the number to call. you can send us a text at (202) 748-8003. otherwise, catch up with us on social media. a very good monday to you, you can start calling in now. we show you a snapshot of headlines about recent polling in various states on these issues. this from over the weekend from the atlanta journal-constitution. the economy and inflation are among georgia voters top concerns according to a latest poll. democrats buoyed by abortion and trump.

the headline from the columbus dispatch, ohio voters are worried about the economy. that is just a snapshot of what we are seeing from the latest polling. there will be a lot more polls over the next six weeks. as you look ahead to midterm election day, our economic issues more important or social issues. republicans think they have the advantage when it comes to economic issues. kevin mccarthy made the centerpiece of his new commitment to america agenda. this is what he had to say. >> children get lost learning behind. that's what happened with democrats. they control washington.

they control the committees, the agencies. they have no plan to fix all the problems they created. we've created a commitment to america. we are going to talk about it today. we want an economy that is strong. that means you can fill up your tank. you can buy the groceries. you can have enough money to go to disneyland and save for the future. we have a plan for a nation that is safe. that means your community will be protected. law enforcement will be respected. we believe in a future that is built on freedom.

that your children come first. they are taught to dream big. we believe in a check and balance, the government should be accountable. we should work for you, not the other way around. host: that was house minority leader pulling out the agenda back on friday. we are asking you what is more important on your midterm vote. we have phone lines for your answers. president biden offered his response to republicans agenda they laid out. this is some of what he had to say on friday. >> earlier today after obstructing everything we've tried to do to stop progress for the last two years, minority

leader went to pennsylvania and unveiled what he calls a commitment to america. that's a thin series of policy goals with little detail that he says republicans will pursue if they regain control of congress. in the course of nearly an hour, here is what we didn't hear. we didn't hear about the right to choose. we didn't hear medicare, social security. let's take a look at what he said today. he said republicans want to preserve our constitutional freedom. that sounds great. look at what they've actually done. they just cheered and embraced the first supreme court decision in our history that just didn't fail to preserve a freedom, it actually took away a fundamental right that it been granted by the same court. the right to choose.

host: president biden on friday. six weeks away from election day, we want to know what's more important. is it economic issues or social issues. a few responses from facebook and other social media. taking your phone calls as well, this is will in baltimore. go ahead. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. definitely, it is economic issues. the price of food, gas, public housing, home purchases are way up. we can't do this stimulus

funding. we are not going to get out of this my more and more stimulus funding. we have to find sustainable solutions. we have an immigration problem. i know that is more of a social issue. that impacts the economic issue as well. we have to close our borders. that is not a sustainable thing by having open borders. tuition forgiveness that just past, that's not sustainable. we have to come to face the fact that economic issues are the major problem right now. host: gwen is in detroit. caller: good morning.

economic issues and social issues to me are one and the same. they impact each other. the tuition bailout, knowingly is that going to help people, it will also allow people to only pay a certain percentage going forward. it is our democracy, our democratic process, our system of democracy at stake. that has to do with a woman being able to control her own body, just like a man. also, people having a choice to

vote by ballot or go to the poll. they should have a choice like that. the social issues and economic, everything that joe biden has put out their addresses those issues. the republicans, their new platform is just a postcard. it doesn't have any plans or how they plan to do anything. it is just talk. that's what i feel. our way of democracy and the republicans are trying to destroy that. host: this is crystal in north carolina. caller: i agree with the lady that just called. she's totally right. i don't believe in open borders

per se, the people that pick our strawberries and our fruit and do our hard labor and work at washing dishes, americans -- ordinary a more can kids won't do that anymore. that has a big impact on our economics. i've been living long enough to realize there are ups and downs in the years i've been alive. i was in real estate in the 80's when reagan was in. interest rates were up to 10%. i remember how hard it was to sell homes. you can't blame any of this. people do not realize, trump would not have done one bit better on bringing our country out of the pandemic.

biden has tried his heart out. he is tried and tried and the republicans will not go with him. if we stick on the path we are on now, we will make it out of this. americans are too impatient. you just want to know what you are doing right now. right now, let's give it a chance to work. he's been in office not two years. the republicans have not voted on one thing he is put forward. you think we have new bridges and roads? our country was falling apart. i live in minnesota. i went over that bridge that fell. bridges are falling everywhere.

we need the things he brought up rid -- up. host: democrats buoyed on the issues of abortion and trump, gaining when it comes to those issues. that poll also asked the same question we are asking you today, which is most important in deciding your vote when it comes to the midterm elections. 16% in that category. the new york times poll came out last week. talking to you about which issue is most important. is it economic issues? caller: good morning.

thank you for c-span. i'm thinking more about the social issues these days. particularly the way that social issues get presented by the democrats. i think we are losing the middle. the moderates. people who would vote for the more reasonable candidate, but the more that we hear about -- i'm a liberal. the more that we hear in the media lgbtq stories about a swimmer who was a male who went to some change and swam, the way the media it will get hold of a story where -- the stories, the

way the democrats get behind and insist on backing the liberal side, i think we are losing the moderate people who don't want to hear it. they don't want to be reminded about it. the more democrats start a speech, the first words out of their mouth, i don't even know what half of those things stand for. a lot of people -- i am very liberal and agree that all of these people should have rights. it's being too publicized, it is put out in the media too much. the democrats are not smart the way they approach social issues. it's coming out of our mouths too much and we are losing

middle ground votes. host: this is raymond in michigan. caller: it is so good to talk to you again this morning. i think economic issues are the big thing. the home heating fuel is going to be completely crazy. thank you. host: mike in california. caller: the first of all, this abortion issue is more media driven than anything else. they serve the democrats. that's all they do is carry

water for the democrats. on the social issues, that's part of it. they are teaching homosexuality to kindergartners and a lot of public schools. the parents don't want that. the biggest contributor to the democrats are the trial attorneys and teachers unions. that's why they are against school choice. the parents don't want homosexuality taught to their youngsters. the media is fully behind that. i take exception to that. we need to get back to the fundamentals as far as that goes. i'm tired of the media line about the abortion issue.

the supreme court did not take anything away. they gave it back to the states. you still have the right to an abortion. i don't appreciate the deception on the part of the liberal media. host: on the abortion issue, you will likely hear a lot more of it. this is an ad from washington state. >> is a doctor, i protect patients. as your congresswoman, i will protect your rights. none of the court his overtone row, congress must protect a woman's right to choose. we must trust women to make these decisions, especially if a mother's life is at risk.

i am the only candidate in this race to protect a woman's right to choose. host: that's one example of the campaign ads already out there on that issue of abortion. plenty of campaign ads on economic issues. this is one from south carolina. the issue is inflation. >> joe biden and nancy pelosi sent inflation to a forty-year height, costing families over $5,000 a year. just think about the cost. milk is four dollars per gallon. a pack of bacon will cost you nearly eight dollars. here's what i am going to do. i approved this message.

host: that ad from south carolina. we want to know which is more important to you, are you more of an economic issues voter or a social issues voter. (202) 748-8000 if you say economic issues. (202) 748-8001 if you say social issues. a three-hour program as usual, the house and at 10:00 eastern for a brief session on the jewish holiday. the house is coming in for legislative business tomorrow. plymouth, massachusetts good morning. what do you say? caller: good morning. it's the ever changing talking points.

let me remind everyone what we were told in the 90's when the president was under a major scandal. the democrats can't talk about the economy now. donald trump had the best economy in 50 years. the talking points were livable wage. have we heard that in the last two years? there's always this debate between economics and more government. supply-side works. we saw it work under donald trump. the democrats have left our grandchildren over $30 trillion in the hole. my final point is this. who lost the middle class? with inflation that you are experiencing now.

inflation removed the middle class and forced to salaries. all they can do is change the talking points. host: there is going to be a lot more talk about the economy this week. the consumer confidence index at new home sales report are set to arrive tomorrow. we will cover those when they do. september jobs numbers are not far behind. we have plenty of key economic reports. something you will see, the attack on the u.s. capital resuming hearings this week on wednesday at 1:00 eastern. usa today notes it comes at the same time members of the oath

keepers are also standing trial this week on seditious conspiracy charges. two topics you will be hearing more about this week. robert is in indiana. caller: both. i'm going to give you an example. i am a senior citizen. i am dealing with cancer right now. two months ago, my electric was raised $204 on the month. women's rights, women have rights, men have rights. the woman's body is god's temple. a woman was made to bear children. i don't know why they can have such a hard time deciding who

are women and men. teaching our children, that's why our country is in the shape it's in. host: this is frank in michigan. which is more important to you? caller: i'm going to start off with this. i worked for two things, social security and medicare. medicare part b increased by three dollars. am i getting that money back? i am retired from general motors. what obama did, i used to get $20 an hour in 2008. now they are getting 20, don't get a pension, don't get health

benefits. the demand is there. you don't need free money from the government. they move those companies overseas because they weren't making a profit. that's not the way it works. in michigan, we will pay more money for gas. we have a president who doesn't believe in oil. it's ridiculous. now you've got joe manchin once to build a pipeline. our governor wanted to close it. that provides our oil pumping. democrats give money away to the ukraine government.

i remember from the 50's and 60's, the intercity is still the same way. what did they do with all that money? it's not to help people out. host: we are going to be talking more about the efforts to permit reform in our next segment. how it is impacting the effort to fund the government passed friday. that's the current deadline for funding. members of congress are working on that. joe manchin has an op-ed, both parties should support my bill. the caller was talking about manufacturing jobs.

that's on the front page of the new york times. a return of jobs to american manufacturing. that story is on the front page of the new york times. this is rich in tennessee, which issues are more important the cycle? caller: always social. i haven't voted since al gore

voted pro-life before he took the national stage. social issues, the way it's framed, it may be implying that economic issues favor republicans and social favor democrats. i would say from my case, social issues and form my vote. i have voted for a constitution party for several cycles. i did vote trump in 2020, which shows you how much my vote counts. i listen to some of your callers and i agree with them as far as moderates go. you hear so much extremism on other social issues.

the candidate, they mentioned the right to choose. they don't mention birthing people. they rarely want to say the word abortion. the younger do. many of the other social issues are just extreme to most americans. as far as democracy, threat to democracy. the democrats are trying to advocate things like packing the supreme court, which franklin roosevelt tried to do. that is anti-constitution. if you don't get your way, we are going to change the rules, which is the democrat playbook. they do these things before the republicans do. host: you mentioned the

moderates. do you think the midterm election gets decided by moderates? what do you think their role will be? caller: i do. i totally agree with that. i think -- the abortion issue, they are all in. i don't think that's going to resonate. it's preaching to the choir for both sides. those in the middle are going to look at their paychecks and go toward that. some of the extreme issues, i think they're going to reject that. is senator sinema going to appear today? host: on this program? no. she won't be on this program.

after our program, we will go to the house floor. that's where we are headed today. a couple of other things you can watch on c-span, a lot of interest in the nasa project, the effort to study how we could possibly as humans redirect the path of asteroids coming near earth. nasa is conducting its asteroid redirecting mission. you can watch that at 6:00 eastern today. at 2:00 today, the council is hosting a discussion on the role of nato today. two senators are appearing at that.

they will be appearing there. live coverage at 2:00 eastern. that is some of what you can watch today. the choleric was talking about turnout. nathan gonzalez of roll call, he took a look at what could be another record year of turnout when it comes to midterms. republicans and democrats come together to set another turnout record. the country set a modern record in 201850 .1% turning out. 66 point 6% turned out in 2020.

if you want to read more from nathan gonzalez at roll call. what do you think is more important this cycle? caller: they both are. i would like to remind the caller that called early so that democrats were responsible for most of the $30 trillion debt. i wish they would check their facts. the republicans are responsible for more of that than democrats are. host: this is otis. good morning. caller: good morning. it's very simple to me. social issues can't fix economics -- without fixing the social problems. host: explain what you mean by

that. caller: history alone tells you it affects everything. it affects who has a job, where the jobs are, where they go. keep things simple. thank you very much. host: this is rate in new york. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. i think both are equally important. if you have a 401(k), you're not happy right now. you keep seeing your savings wendell away. it's scary. when you see the cost of groceries go up so high. a lot of things are going on the social side, they are

interconnected. the oil is hurting the economy. a lot of these things get intertwined. if you have a 401(k), you're not happy right now. caller: good morning. how are you doing this morning. i happen to be homosexual. social issues are incredibly important. one gentleman that just called in about where the jobs are, i worked at a steel mill in northwest indiana. the management literally tried to prevent a black worker from taking specific jobs. the jobs paid less than what the white guys got. people that are calling in it, especially the republicans, they have no idea what the word socialism means. there's never been true communism.

there's never been true christianity. women have a right to control their own bodies. men have a right to control their own bodies. this should not be up to the government. the people on the supreme court, they need to be kicked out. most of the republican politicians, i was raised republican. i lived in palm springs. i ran for political office in indiana is a republican. i wouldn't give them the time of day now. they need to shut off fox news and pay attention to what's really going on and look what's going on in iran. they are fighting for social issues. look at the nazis in world war ii. we need to take control of our own lives. i appreciate you for taking the time.

host: a caller asked if he would be able to see senator kristen cinema on c-span. you can after the house session that is happening at 10:00. she is giving that speech on bipartisanship accompanied by mitch mcconnell at the university of louisville. we are airing that at 10:10 eastern. stick around on the c-span networks throughout the day. you can always go on and watch it at c-span.org. caller: good morning. i want to talk about the economic situation. these young people need to go to

work. they need to stop looking for handouts. i have recently changed my will because nobody is going -- they are expecting an inheritance. it's not going to come from me. i worked three jobs when i was young. they can work. as far is women, women need to protect their selves. they need to control their children. if you can't afford it, don't have them. host: how many grandkids do you have? caller: i have four. i have three of them that

absolutely are not working. 32, 28, 26. they think with all the free money handed out to them, they expected to keep handed out. they just don't have to have something. when i try to encourage them to get some type of work, they spend their lives putting a little bit aside, putting a little bit toward needs, wants, desires. they are not going to get a penny from me. host: you said you changed your will. where's the money going now? caller: you know what? i'm going to spend. i may put it in a slot machine. i tell you what, my husband recently died. we both worked very hard.

we didn't take extravagant vacations. we saved. we planned for our retirement. these people think the government is going to take care of them. host: thanks for the call. this is bob in illinois. caller: it's social issues. that woman, she's kind of right. i will probably always vote democrat. my conscience bothers me. based on the fact of being able to adopt kids. i don't want them to know.

i won them so a man kisses a woman. i don't want them to be have rocks thrown at them. they are human beings also. host: this is vincent in new jersey. caller: my thing is dealing with the inflation situation that everybody's been talking about, how things are costing so much. technically, it's a global thing. i don't care what anyone says. japan has issues, korea has issues. maybe some europeans. all i know, whatever happened

back then when jobs are going overseas, corporations making all sorts of demands as far as the cost of things going up. what i think it is is it has to do with corporations. the responsibility is on the wealthy corporate elite by raising prices. do we hear this in the media? no. i will tell you this much, what the president needs to do, he needs to go out and get on the wealthy elites and make them pay their taxes. host: that was vincent in east orange new jersey.

what's more important to your vote, economic issues or social issues. a twitter pole with social issues dominating in that battle between the two. that's an unscientific hole as most twitter polls are. the number is changing in real time as we speak. you can call in this morning if you say that economic issues are the key issue for you. that is (202) 748-8001 if you say social issues. we've got about 15 minutes left in the segment. we are also looking at your comments via social media.

(202) 748-8000 if you say economic issues are the most important. (202) 748-8001 if you say social issues are your most important

issue. in about 20 minutes, we will talk about the week ahead in washington. we will be focusing. stick around for that coming up in about 15 minutes. the united states has warned russia there will be catastrophic consequences if moscow used nuclear weapons in its desperation to hold onto territory in ukraine. the united states has spelled out how the world would react. that advisor was on the sunday

shows yesterday, including meet the press. >> why the ambiguity? why not draw a public line. if he is threatening nuclear weapons, why not send a public message, which i'm sure people would like to hear that says if you cross this line, bar the door. >> if russia crosses this line, there will be catastrophic consequences. the united states would respond decisively. we have spelled out what that would mean. we are laying out with the consequences would be without getting into a rhetorical tit for tat publicly. we will not say there are

catastrophic consequences. we will respond decisively. host: you used that word twice. i assume you will not get more definition to that. should vladimir putin use the definition of his imagination? as bad as he could imagine? caller: russia understands very well what the united states would do in response to the use of nuclear weapons. we have spelled it out for them. i will leave it at that today. as far as deterrents are concerned, rush will make its decision. it will make it understanding the united states will respond decisively. from our perspective, we will be sharp and clear with them so there is no mistake about where things stand from our perspective. host: that was jake sullivan on

meet the press. we are back to your phone calls. we've got about 15 minutes left in this conversation. caller: i think it's going to be immigration. everything is going to stem from immigration. you think of the drugs, the welfare, the people we don't know who is coming in, the terrorists. i think we are going to have a problem, especially if we tried to return them. republicans won't get rid of them. the democrats want them because they are voters. i think it's going to be immigration. host: michael in ohio is next. caller: thanks for taking my call.

i'm retired veteran. i think social issues, the oversight required to maintain the peace among people will cause a lot of economic -- we are paying them so much money, it is causing the economy to stall. host: chicago, good morning. what do you think? caller: i'm calling about the, me. before trump took over, he took over a good economy. in two years, he wrecked that economy. i think that's what we would be looking for. host: do you think covid had something to do with that? caller: it did, but he is

supposed to be taking care of covid. we had the bird flu and swine flu, it never reached the point where it destroyed the economy. this man let that thing destroy our economy. host: we are at 8.3% inflation. is this joe's economy? is this still left over? caller: these next two years, it's going to be what was left over. biden did what he had to do. you have to understand the trump inherited a great economy. it was pretty good and he

wrecked it in two years. host: what about these last two years? caller: it's just like an overflow. when obama took over from bush, the first two years, he had to deal with the collapse of the economy. it takes time. biden is taking over from the wreck that trump made. host: that is illinois. a few more of your comments from social media.

we've got 10 minutes left in the segment, asking you which is more important. we've got phone lines for each one of those answers. this is glenda out of georgia. go ahead. caller: if we -- i think the social issues will be helped. i don't think it's going to take care of everything. i believe it's a big start. everybody has a decent amount of money to take care of their families and their needs as much as possible.

thank you so much for taking my call. i enjoy the show. host: rick out of los angeles. good morning. caller: good morning. i'm kind of a radical. having voting issues in georgia and alabama, on a given saturday in georgia and alabama play football and all the people that can't vote, black players should boycott. churches are getting involved in politics, they should pay taxes. you see too many tv preachers just talking politics from the pulpit. they are not paying their fair share. make them pay. thank you. host: marshall out of

philadelphia. good morning. caller: thank you for c-span. i want to touch a what the last caller said. i think it's the opposite. donald trump had the best economy. joe biden took it and completely ran it into the ground. look at the gas prices. you look at the price of food, lumber, construction, i just wanted to say that. host: stephen in washington. you are next. are you with us? caller: yes.

i was just going to say host: you've got to keep your tv down. have your tv down. we will listen to your phone line. matt is in new york. good morning. caller: good morning. caller: i was waiting for somebody to bring trump up. it seems like it has to do with trump. let me think the democrats for doing that. it reminds people how good things were two years ago. when trump left office i paid one dollar 80 nine cents for

eggs. right now, gas went down. i'm supposed to be grateful that it's $3.89. it's ridiculous. we've got a couple million people he's let into the country that are burdening our social system, plus a million that got away. these people that keep bringing trump up, they are reminding people of how good it was when trump was in office. the basic thing is, are you better off today than you were two years ago? host: would you like to see in these next six weeks donald trump more involved in the 2022 election or less involved? what do you think is more helpful. caller: i think it's a mixed

bag. donald trump definitely is a frustrating person. some of the stuff he says is totally out there. you have to look past his rhetoric and what actually happened. i think his agenda was good. he had a difficult time keeping his mouth shut. i remember the 2016 primary, you guys had steve forbes on it. it was about whether or not people would support trump. i didn't know at that point. it was time for the republicans to come to a gunfight with a gun instead of letting the media driven democrat party, which the media is just another arm of it,

misinform people. that's why you get the calls you get. people don't know the facts. host: that was matt in new york. we are going to hear more about him this week with the house select committee meeting again after their summer break that they were on and scheduled to meet on wednesday for their latest hearing on the attack on the attack. adam schiff, a member of the committee said that criminal referrals when it comes to the president should be unanimous from the panel if it does come. this is some of that interview with jake tapper. >> we operate with a high degree

of consistence -- consensus. it's my feeling we should make referrals. we will get to a decision as a committee and we will all abide by that decision. i do agree as the judge in california wrote in multiple opinions, there been several laws broken. it is apparent that there is evidence that donald trump was involved in breaking several of those laws. when congress does find evidence that people have broken the law, in circumstances like these, it's the better part of the argument. host: that interview is from state of the union yesterday. they are meeting again wednesday at 1:00 eastern.

we have a couple of minutes left. thanks for waiting in indiana. go ahead. caller: i think we need to stop, roll up our sleeves, everybody needs to get together and stop pointing fingers at one another. stop the nonsense. sit down and figure out what we're going to do. that's what i think and i'm done. host: how do we do that? we lost her. francis is in texarkana. caller: i believe it's about the economy. everything his gone up so much. gasoline has gone down, but he's been releasing gas the past six months. there's no reason gas has gone down. it hasn't gone down for the

economy. the democrats use revisionist history. they don't understand, trump took us from the stock market at 19,000, now it's over 30. the unemployment rate was the lowest it had ever been. gas was so low it was almost too cheap. they seem to all want to blame trump when it is biden policies that brought us to this point, so i am not sure how you could blame anybody but the present administration for our problems. host: stick around. two more hours to go and 20 two talk about.

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have joe manchin on it. this is a deal he made with chuck schumer in august in order to parse a reconciliation bill, he wanted this legislation attached to another bill. we do not know if that bill will have 60 votes in the senate and enough in the house to get it over the finish line, because a lot of house democrats do not want to support it. it is interesting. we are going to september with an -- with unease. the vote tomorrow may not actually get the government funded. host: your colleague at the wall street journal katie ferrick today laying out what is actually in that bill. she writes that that bill would speed up the approval process for energy related projects

across the country, including wind farms, solar power installations. it would target the duration of the most detailed category of review required by the national governmental policy act and also orders 25 projects that cut energy costs and improve energy reliability. that would put pressure on u.s. officials to keep from languishing. that is in the wall street journal. also today, joe manchin making his case for the passage of his bill. the question for you what happens if this does not happen as reported. is joe manchin during his colleagues to shut down the government because they do not like his bill? guest: he is trying to make that case. it is interesting in talking senators these past two weeks.

lawmakers largely see a need for some sort of reform, but there is a lot of disagreement about what that is. you have joe manchin a lot in cases, he does. he got a reconciliation bill over the line. so it is those margins of understanding will enough people come along will they say this bill is great? they did not have the text until late last week. it is unclear if maybe having that percolate through the weekend has eased some stress. hopefully, we will see it before friday so the government can avoid a shutdown. host: is there other legislation that could hitch a ride on that government funding bill? guest: the two main things we expect to see is more aid for

ukraine. the conflict there, putin has committed to escalating it, and more funding does have support from republicans and democrats. it is unclear how much republicans will continue funding ukraine, but right now, there is money for aid on that. we also expect to see some money to help jackson, mississippi with their water crisis. also, the deal was struck to add an fda user fee for renewal on the continuing resolution with something that is also expiring at the end of september and that is the train leaving the station -- leaving the station.

host: the continuing resolution, if it passes, it would just punch this debate to the lame-duck. guest: correct. most lawmakers would like to see the deadline out due december. we often see them pressure to mid-december, sometimes right before christmas eve. they enjoy punching it to a deadline that inspires automation among lawmakers. i would expect it to go until christmas. there are some republicans and others saying that it should go into january, where they need congress to change control and would like to weigh in a little bit more, but it does december is where things are headed. host: what else could we be looking at in a lame accession? other must pass legislation? guest: a lot of things are percolating. it is unclear how the agenda

will shape up. we could see the antitrust bill that amy klobuchar and chuck grassley are pushing for good is bipartisan. we could see them try to get it up before the vote. we could also see the electoral count act reform bill that has bipartisan support in the senate . it is slightly different than the bill that passed the house last week and it does have support. it would make sense that something that has 60 votes in the senate moves forward. we could also see democrats in the house push their bill to ban -- four lawmakers for their chamber. it is unclear their bill has backing to the senate, where you also have senators saying they would like to shop lawmakers from owning stocks, there does not seem to be one consensus bill.

we are watching for any sort of crisis to come up. we also see them, you could see emergency funding bills come up as well. host: talking about the week ahead on capitol hill. natalie andrews of the wall street journal is our guest. phone lines as usual. democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. we were just talking about the lame-duck. after the midterms, we were looking at what leadership might look like in the house, specifically on both sides of the aisle comes after the election. start on democrats. what does leadership -- what is it shaping up to be at this point when the house convenes for the 118th congress in january you -- january?

guest: democrats have had the same leadership for decades, nancy pelosi, steny hoyer, jim clyburn. several democrats in the past, i have asked them what they expect to see after the midterms. as democrats of gotten more hopeful that they could block off republicans from winning a majority, or eliminate losses, they have thought that nancy pelosi could run for another term and probably win if she has the support. there are not a lot of people that could directly challenge speaker pelosi. you have hakeem jeffries, currently the democratic caucus chair, and adam schiff, chair of the intelligence committee. they have started talking to people, having meetings, laying out the groundwork should nancy

pelosi decide she does not want to leave the carcass anymore. she did make a deal four years ago that she would only do two more terms as speaker, but that was ever codified into house democratic rules. it is wild but truly anyone's game. if pelosi wants to stay, several democrats expect her to try. if she does not, you can see hakeem jeffries emerge as the first lack of man to lead a political party in congress -- black man to lead a political party in congress. adam schiff also has national name recognition and is holding meetings. host: and on the republican side, the headline in the wall street journal is kevin mccarthy fought back to power. right he is closer than ever to becoming speaker.

the path he is taking is risky. why risky? guest: kevin mccarthy tied in 2015 and has since set his sights on unifying people who did not like him. jim jordan is now an ally. he has tried hard to unite all the wings of the republican party. he wants to leave. he has tried to make friends with everyone and tried to push them under a spending bill or some sort of must pass legislation. it gets difficult when you have tried to bring people together in a republican conference that is not necessarily unified the republican congress does not like increasing spending.

it is going to be hard for many republican to deal with joe biden. we going to see a kevin mccarthy who does not have a relationship with joe biden if he becomes a speaker, but i asked two dozen republicans if they would vote for him if kevin mccarthy said i need your help getting this spending bill through. the result of that very informal survey but one that looked at several republicans, most said even if mccarthy asked them to vote for an omnibus spending bill, they could not do it this is going to be a hard job for kevin mccarthy. host: natalie andrews, deep dive into kevin mccarthy's path to power available at the wall street journal. you can also find it on her twitter page.

let me fat that's not me let you chat with a few callers. lines as usual. this is barry, a democrat in waynesburg, virginia. caller: i am looking at the next election coming up. i am a democrat. i reluctantly voted for biden, i wanted sanders. i am afraid to vote again because it is like if you vote, you are putting a stamp of approval on this daytime drama jerry springer show going on right now. i do not want to put more stamps of approval on it. my best bet i do not want to advise anybody to do anything. if the republicans win, it is because democrats do not. it is no big deal. i would not want to use the term --, but it seems like they --

the republicans are subservient to corporations anyway, but there are some that are not. they're starting to realize they are being left out, but if republicans win because democrats stay out of it, it does not change anything anyways. i not know what to help you. host: what is your number one issue? caller: probably censorship. a lot of stuff is being censored, yet right-wing people, lessons say right-wing or left-wing omma because you --, because you mean totally to the right or left, that the bigger thing is being able to find the information when you need it. host: gently andrews on censorship. -- natalie andrews on censorship. as you follow that issue as it gets to bid on capitol hill?

guest: some lawmakers would say that that is why they talk a lot about social media and help messages spread. they talk about taxes and wanting to regulate that. they talk about house investigations should republicans win the majority. we could see legislation from there. host: it is the week ahead on capitol hill, but at the end of last week, week's house approved legislation to boost holy spending in a series of bills. explain what happens to that now. is it likely to become law before the election? guest: the house past four build from alt led by democrats, some bipartisan. they were led by people who

wanted to push back against those who are soft on crime or who were wanting to defund the police. these built would give, still be led by josh gottheimer and rutherford from the republican side, who would give grants over the next five years there were bills to mitigate crime through community grant programs, things like that, but these bills are probably facing -- given the bipartisan bill, which had backing in a different form from wesley in they are probably up against the clock within anything else. senators have a long list of things they would like to do. if they do, the senate would be watching. they are probably up against a tough clock in the senate where they are going to be out to campaign.

if they do not want to campaign, they will have to do the national defense authorization act there is a list of things lawmakers want to get done lame-duck. host: when does the house get out of town? in the senate? -- and the senate? guest: the house is leaving town after this week. they are going to campaign until election day. both sides seek the stakes as very high. the senate is scheduled to meet in october. however, we have not seen the senate calendar shift. chuck schumer has democrats defending their seats who will probably want to go out and campaign, so we could see some of the days the senate has scheduled for october pushed back. host: this is lewis in north

carolina, line for democrats. caller: good morning. i am thinking about what some of the things you said about how politics is running in the senate. this is one of my questions. if the republicans have an to win the house, that happen to win the house or senate, do you think -- you know they are going to put abortion on it, make it mandatory, everything -- do you think the republican women, democrat women, and independent women marching in the streets when the dogs -- dobs -- dobbs decision came out, do you think those women are going to vote people in that want to get rid of abortion altogether?

do you think women will vote on them and then go back out in the streets -- do you think these women will vote them in and then go out in the streets again and march on abortion? guest: it is an interesting question how abortion will play into votes in november. we have seen polling in the past that shows that abortion sometimes ranks is like number three or four or five issue for voters, and that the economy is in a tough spot. we are seeing inflation and rising costs the economy generally rises to the top with health care has been front and center, we have seen that rise to the top this is the first election in recent history where we had abortion the ang legislative. -- being legislated.

that could change priorities, but in the past, we have seen those who support abortion rights vote for candidates who do not support abortion because it is not at the top of their list when -- of what they are looking for in a lawmaker. we have seen republicans trying to blunt some of these attacks. some of them have said -- i talked to marjorie taylor greene on friday. i asked her about abortion, because it was not in the republicans plan other than run line that said they support the right to life. she said that abortion seems defended by the states. that is an interesting line to push to try to make it not a national issue. however, should republicans when the house majority, i would expect them to hold a vote on abortion -- on limiting abortion rights.

it -- if it makes it to the senate, which is unlikely, it would force a veto from joe biden. these are interesting times where we are seeing how people are going to prioritize that voting in a post-roe world. we do not have that data. host: the brookings institute recently took a look at the primary season going through candidates' campaign material and figuring out the top issues discussed during the primaries. here's what they found. when it came to democrats, health care discussed by 2% of candidates, abortion safety 1%, climate change 59%, then guns and election integrity. here is a look at the republican side. top issues, immigration

discussed by 51%, then guns, abortion at 53%, then taxes and regulation and the issue of inflation. that is at the universe of issues that most candidates discussed. working steadily you -- brookings.edu is where you can go for that report. guest: it is interesting that abortion increase and how much people are talking about it. it is on the ballot in california, nevada, and michigan, all places with competitive house seats. if you see people coming out to vote on those ballot initiatives, democrats hope they will be looking at candidates who back abortion rights. they are hoping that voters coming out will help propel them to hold some of those seats.

it is interesting to see how abortion is changing the landscape. democrats hope it is shaking them up. they are putting to their special election. in new york, with pat ryan, he talked a lot about abortion rights and abortion as health care. they won. republicans feel like that was more of a one-off. their primary was crowded and there were other circumstances that prevented them from getting a clear win, but it has thrown a wildcard in the this election. host: line for independents, again, brian. caller: having served under both carter and reagan, i was young then, but i did not know the ring going to be such a big difference. it happened real quick. i cannot support the democratic

party anymore, unless you can find a candidate such as jfk and what he believed in. that is going way back. he believes in a secure border, no excuses. he was a worried about reforms, just secure the border. also, he did not believe in trade with communist nations such as china. see where we are now. also what he did not believe in was the cia. host: when you say you served under carter and reagan, did you serve in the military or at a federal job? caller: at a high level. we do not get into that. the staff change. my mission statement was going to change at the end the year. when rick got in, i thought -- once reagan got in, i thought

this would affect me but it affected me within a month. the mission statement changed. it was great. he kept politics out of the military back. look at where is that. host: we are running short on time. this is carlos in denver city, texas, republican. caller: good morning. common change of principles. first of all, i am an american. on abortion, i do not see why we have to pay for it. let them have an abortion, but let them pay out of their pocket there will not be no problem. why do taxpayers have to pay for it? that is wrong. let them pay for it.

i have got another question. blame mexico or all of people coming across. mexico is making a killing out of it. another one, why do we send people to new york? he meet at the same time in schumer's backyard, nancy pelosi's backyard and joe b.'s. host: in terms of we are paying for abortion, could you review the hyde amendment? guest: that is in government funding bills. this generally deals with health care. it outlines that government funding does not go to abortions and that is truly something that even democrats who have tried to

get removed, have realized it is not doable until they have 60 votes in the senate. that hyde amendment will likely stay in the future government funding bills. government funding can go to places like lamb parent in places that do abortions, but the funding for abortions themselves, government funding does not go toward expenses around abortion. host: in the two minutes we have left, i want to view a chance to talk about conversations you had with numbers congress when it comes to and documented immigrants. the caller was talking about that topic and transferring them to sanctuary areas. how are members of congress

talking about that? how is this viewed on capitol hill? guest: immigration often comes up right before elections in a big way. it is something republicans talk about. they are concerned about it right now. there are increases in crime and drugs because of the border, they say. i would expect them to push that message great into the majority should they win in terms of investigations into homeland security. democrats, some feel like they are doing a good job pushing back on this message. others say they could do better. they cannot really have a focused message on how to confront immigration and the border. democrats have traditionally been in support of dreamers who

were brought to this country as young children. and wanting people to have a chance at the american dream. that is something democrats have long talked about. when they are confronted with some of these issues at the border, some democrats worry their party's not have a solid response. republicans go all in unwilling to close the border, pointing to limit immigration -- on wanting to close the border, wanting to limit immigration. we will see how much that impacts votes. it is overwhelmingly doing something people will want to talk about. immigration continues to be a problem about how to solve it. host: we will have to end it there.

natalie andrews, wall street journal, appreciate your time. guest: thank you. host: next, we are going to be talking with dr. arthur evans, ceo of the american psychological association about new recommendations that all adults under 65 should be routinely screened for anxiety. stick around for that discussion. ♪ ♪ >> j.d. scholten has been appearing on c-span since 1989.

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primary care. host: why? guest: anxiety disorders are common and prevalent. about 26% of males and 40 -- 40% of females, these are some of the most common mental health conditions. they are often unrecognized and they can lead to a variety of problems, not only the problems that come from having a mental health challenge, but also the calendars exacerbating other health conditions. host: what pump to this recommendation? guest: the work started before the pandemic. it is timely. one thing that happened during the pandemic is that symptoms of anxiety and depression increased over the course of the pandemic. as we looked at the data, those numbers were 3-4 times what they

were before the pandemic. people have increased symptoms related to depression and anxiety. we know that these conditions are often underrecognized. this is an opportunity for us to recognize this issues and to get to people earlier. host: do you personally think that there is more anxiety in america today than 30 years ago? or are we better at diagnosing it? guest: we have seen significant increases recently. the data looks like we were seeing an increase given prior to the pandemic. it is a combination of us talking about it more, but there are greater issues in the population. host: this task force recommendation that most adults should get an anxiety screening,

for the first time, they are recommending screening adults younger than 625 for anxiety. the task force recommends screening all adults, including those who are pregnant and postpartum, for depression. that is what we are talking about with dr. arthur evans, ceo of the american psychological association. phone lines split regionally. eastern and central time zones, (202) 748-8000. mountain and pacific, (202) 748-8001. dr. evans, where the rubber meets the road in terms of screenings, primary care doctors are expected to do this. are they trained to do depression screenings? guest: we know that people in primary care are screening for depression. the screenings are not full assessments. they are screenings people can

do easily. primary care physicians can do that. many primary care providers are already doing screenings for depression. (202) 748-8000 if i am coming --host: if i am coming in for an anxiety screening, what are you asking me in that screen? how long does that take? what does that look like for somebody who maybe we going to the doctor and the doctor decides to go with these recommendations? guest: there are different types of screenings, but they recommended screenings for generalized anxiety disorder. these take only a few minutes. some of the symptoms that we look for our irritability, worry , people having anxiety and nervousness about different issues.

those can be done effectively and efficiently. we can get people connected to care much earlier. host: when do you know that somebody has depression or anxiety? guest: one thing that is important to note -- these are screenings. that means we are not diagnosing. they are only designed to help us identify people who are likely to have a problem. those people should be referred to a mental health professional for further assessment. host: dr. arthur evans, ceo of the american psychological association, here to take your phone calls. can you explain the difference between psychology and psychiatry? host: psychiatrist go to medical

school and do a residency and specialize in psychiatry. psychologists go to school and learn the science of human behavior and clinical psychologists do additional training to provide clinical care. host: are there more psychologists or psychiatrists in the u.s. right now? guest: more psychologists, fewer psychiatrists, but we need more of both. our membership is about 130,000. but that include students, affiliates, people who are researchers, clinicians, but in the u.s., there are probably about 150,000 200,000 psychologists. at nine in chicago, good morning. -- edna in chicago, good

morning. caller: i have been trying to get through for a long time, but you hit on something that concerns me. with all of these psychologists, why haven't they spoken up about donald trump. he has a mental problem. i would like to know if some of these psychologists would get together and let this guy know he needs to be in the hospital. guest: our ethics require is not to diagnose people without seeing them. one of the reasons that people do not generally get up for public figures is that unless they are under their care, they would not have a clinical opinion. host:host: rob, south carolina. caller: i would like to comment

on what is called anxiety in the u.s., especially with young people. i am not going to be offensive, but this is just my give-and-take. i think americans, the electorate, just as know which way is up and down anymore. people are turning on each other. you hear that all the time. who is promoting that? the politicians, mainstream media. it is like common sense has died. let me pause that. abortion, one party is saying that people are against the federal government mandating abortions, but they do not care about women. that is not true.

the people who are against abortion on demand really and truly believe -- this is just one example -- that the child in the womb is a living human being with rights. when you have an abortion for any reason, you are killing an innocent human being. these people are being called people. climate change, people say we are climate --. but no.republicans know the climate has changed. there is a friend of mine with a giant -- in his front yard. the climate is changing. cheap, affordable energy is freedom for the common man and woman. it allows you to do the things you need to do. if we get away from it -- and

the inflation problem we have is absolutely caused by the war on fossil fuels. host: let's take some of your examples. some of the intense debates we had in this country, your thoughts? guest: we know that infidelity is on the rise. when we look at one of are the things that are causing stress in the american population, instability -- incivility is high on the list. people reported a lot of stress from this. it points to the fact that our mental health is affected by what happens in society and how we treat one another. we cannot separate that from our psychological health. judy caller's -- to the caller's

point, i hope we can disagree in a way that does not cause angst and difficulties. host: at what point is a psychologist would you say that somebody needs to unplug the political wars? when should they step back from intense debates? what is too much? guest: we all have to bank judge that for ourselves. when we are ruminating about it and it is starting to affect our health and our relationships with family members, we are probably getting to the point where we need to step back and ask ourselves what is really important? yes this political debate more important than my relationship with my son or daughter? if not, and for most people, it will not be, that means we need

to think differently about how we engage. host: what about those who engage in the climate change debate and say, this is an issue for generations to come, or the abortion debate. this is human life, the most important thing for me to be involved in. what do you say to those folks? guest: people can feel strongly about their positions but the issue is how to reengage one another? we live in a large country. people have different opinions and we have to bring this together. it is important to figure out how to have those intense debates, fight for the things we believe in it in a way is not detrimental to society. host: texas, john. caller: thanks for this interesting conversation. anxiety, if you do not have

anxiety, you are not living. my mom had it. she is a single mom, worked great jobs. dr. john told her, come home, sit down, worry about it for five minutes, and get up and leave it. we have to learn to trust in god, things will work out goat with the flow. quit trying to demonize everybody. be a good person, follow the golden will. treat others like you would want to be treated in the light of this stress will go away. sit down, worry about it for five minutes and then get on with life. thanks a lot. guest: one of the things the caller said is important is that we all experience anxiety and sad moods. the issue when we talk about mental health conditions is that these have lasted a long time. in the case of generalized anxiety, we are talking about

over six months. they really important thing is when it gets to the point where it is affecting relationships, our ability to work, our health. that is the point where we need help. the caller makes a good point. anxiety is normal and a part of life, but we also know it can get to the point where it starts to impede on our ability to carry out our functions and our health overall. host: this test first report recommending meanings and all adults under 65. what about those over 65? guest: the task force did not make a recommendation. they said there was not enough evidence to support doing screenings for older adults. it is complicated. there are a number of things at play here. and a lot of the symptoms for anxiety look similar to other symptoms you might see in old age.

the primary issue is that screenings should be done when they are effective at detecting that there might be a problem. for older adults, it is more complicated. they want to see more research around that before they make that recommendation. host: dr. evans with us for the next 25 minutes having this conversation about anxiety and depression in the wake of this task force report with new recommendations on screenings. anthony in carolina is next. caller: good morning. dr. evans, we have spoken before. several years ago, we were talking about stress versus pressure. you helped me clarify. we work backwards from your definition. one thing that i do is read

quotes. here's one that i think is great -- not easily scared, not for long. that ties us back to what is called the fight or flight. we know that if something is going on that we are not sure of, get out of there. if we cannot get out of there, we have to bank fight to defend ourselves. i actually believe that screenings should start at an earlier age, because when my children came out, one of the things i put before them were things to make them question to me so that they can become better children and i would become a better parent and overtime, they would know how to deal with anxiety.

anxiety is not something we should learn from. we become stronger when we have more anxiety in our lives because we then know not to be easily scared and not for long. guest: the caller said the number of important things. there is a law in psychology that says that as our anxiety increases, our performance increases up to a point. beyond that point, our performance starts to decrease. research has shown that. being able to manage and control anxiety and those fight and flight situations is very important. but the point i want to keep stressing is what we are talking about today is when anxiety is long-lasting and gets in our

way. in those other situations, learning to manage our anxiety, for example, speaking publicly can cause a lot of anxiety. people learn strategies and techniques to deal with those situations. it is important to do that, but i want to distinguish from that kind of anxiety, situational anxiety from long-lasting anxiety that gets in the way of our lives and our health. host: anxiety and depression, what separates the two? when does one contribute to the other? c-span.org --guest: anxiety and depression are different sides of the same coin. a lot of the symptoms of anxiety are similar to the symptoms of depression. in both cases, it is important

to recognize when we are experiencing that. that is why i think task force or conditions are so important, because we have another set of eyes on us looking at that issue, but it is also important to make sure that once we get identified as potentially having those problems to get a more thorough assessment by a mental health professional to figure out the best course of treatment. the reason that is important is that if you take depression, depression and because by any number of things. it can be more biological but also situational. this can be when one has experienced a loss and might become depressed. more people who have substance -- or people who have substance use conditions often will have depression.

if you are only looking at these symptoms and not understanding what is driving the depression, you may not get to the real issue. if someone is having depression because they have a substance abuse condition and you treat the symptoms but you do not get to the fact that this person has a cocaine addiction, you are not going to get to the problem. it is important to get a more thorough assessment, understand what is driving that depression so that you can treat the underlying conditions. host: these task force recommendations have prompted that discussion this morning. how do they go from we recommend primary care doctors do this to you have to include this in your yearly physical? what is the process? guest: the recommendations are recommendations. the government does not mandate that. often, what will happen is when the task force makes these

recommendations, there is a lot of pressure put on private payers to include that. i think what will happen over time is that more and more, this will be a common practice. i hope it does. the screening is important from a clinical standpoint, that it will help identify individuals, for what i am happy about is that it helps address some of the issues we have had in the mental health field. we know that people get to treatment much later in the process than they should. often, from onset to the tangible get treatment, it can be a year, sometimes decades before people get help. this helps us to identify issues much earlier. it also helps us to deal with

the issue of stigma and normalizing mental health. for topo long, mental health has been separated from physical health. sometimes we talk about the checkup from the neck up. when you go for your physical exam, it is below the neck eating much. the issues of mental health are often ignored. this wont normalize it and say to people that your health -- this will your mental health is as important as your physical health also, there has been a move to integrate mental health into primary care, which is important. many people will not go to a specialty mental health provider. what we know from the research around integrated care is embedding those services in primary care settings is that we get to people earlier.

secondly, we close that gap between people who are having problems and people getting the treatment that they need. and it reduces the stereotypes. host: re: worried about the ability of doctors who going to medical school in the 1980's and 1990's and early 2000 that they have the ability to do this and to do it well. well enough for screenings to have this ability to do that checkup from the neck of jacob -- up? guest: a screening to not give a diagnosis. it says a person is likely to have a problem. they are more competent and well-trained tooth -- trained to do that. it is important for primary care provider to have relationships with people who have more expertise around mental health issues.

to the point is making earlier about integrated health care, what happens historically is that when you integrate mental health providers into those settings, it is very difficult to get them out, because primary care providers like them being there, and able to go down the hall and consult with someone or to have someone deal with a set of issues that they no longer have to deal with because they can focus more on physical health issues. host: this is klamath in detroit. caller: i have a degree in psychology. i am 86 years old. i have a dsm-iv. you list everything about post-traumatic stress syndrome but you leave out two things that affect the black community. that is slavery and prejudice and discrimination.

why do we not address those issues? these are problems that all blacks have because of prejudice and discrimination. of social discrimination. why is that never addressed in the black community? guest: i think you're making a good point. i want to take it from two different standpoints. from a community standpoint, i think it is important to understand both issues happening in community. i think there are people in communities that are starting to do that. in terms of psychological impact of that, we know that discrimination does affect communities. whether you are talking about

african-american, asian americans. we know that people are exterminated against, it affects their mental health. if issues that you are raising our inextricable. you can't have those societal issues and not have a impact on our. health and physical health. your point is well taken. host: in brooklyn. you are next. caller: i appreciate dr. evans so much. many of the callers, i can't think of one caller i did not appreciate. the man from texas who mentioned the lord god. you know jesus said, be not anxious. he lived in a different world than we live in. the separation between the mental and the physical, the

greeks said to a sound mind and a sound body. why don't we remember that? the country we live in, we have to look at the diet of people and their vitamin levels. they do not get enough b complex. it effects them mentally. physically too probably. if they smoke something like marijuana, that burns up b complex even more. it is the complex you need to cope with stress. anxiety, i never would say i am anxious. one time a doctor in emergency room try to put that on we. i was teaching in long island. there had been a meningitis outbreak. i had to learn how to teach children how to wash their hand

and i was concerned about myself. i wanted to be tested. he tried to give me a hard time. the doctors that saw me in the er did give me the test. fortunately, i do not have any of the symptoms. treating symptoms instead of the cause. look at the diet in the people in america. guest: sure. thank you for your point you are making about the integration between the mental health and physical health. one of the things we recommend with people when we talk about self-care and maintaining our psychological health, people exercise, look at diets, look at sleep. all of those things we know affect people's mental health. one of the things i think is important around this, understanding that it is not inevitable that we will develop mental health conditions.

there's a lot of things that we can do ourselves, there are things we can do as parents, teachers, employers that can help protect people with mental health and support people psychologically. it is important to use these opportunities to help educate folks about those things. host: what would you say to tony on twitter, who says that psychologists have harmed us by shifting the focus from coping to diagnosis. they sell us on disease when they could be promoting ways for us to drive. guest: -- thrive. guest: i do not think that talking about the issues hurts us, it helps us the bigger problem we have in the country is that, people have these conditions and are not getting the help. if you listen to many health professionals, psychologist,

social workers, a lot of what we talk about, especially today are things that people can do to protect their mental health. like the kind of things i was talking about earlier. i do not think talking about these issues leads to people having problems. talking him -- not talking about these issues has been a bigger problem in our country. host: we have 10 minutes left this morning. tony is in tennessee. good morning. caller: good morning. my question is this. when anxiety and depression is in full-blown mental illness, would you support the federal government providing -- two states to rebuild long-term mental institutions, which will help to eliminate homelessness and crime guest: guest:?

another great question. another thing that we learned over the decades is that we can treat people in community settings. starting with john kennedy, we started this process of institutionalization. the reason we have homelessness is because people do not have homes. when we treat people who have mental illnesses and they still do not have homes, they are still homeless. the issue there is, how do we make sure that we understand that for many people who have very serious mental illnesses we need a conference of approach. making sure people have adequate housing. your point is a good one. we really ought to be stepping back on looking at how we shift public policy, given the

increase that we have seen in mental health conditions. what i believe and what we are talking about at the association is really taking a whole population approach to this issue. that simply means we cannot wait until people get to the point where it is a crisis. we have to start helping people earlier than a crisis. that is why these recommendations are important. they normalize when they say to all of, we ought to be concerned about our mental health. it provides us a education -- opportunity to educate people about their mental health. if we think about the issue of mental health or even i am having problems or i do not, we really miss the point. our mental health is on a continuum. there are people who are doing really well from our mental health standpoint. there are people who have very serious challenges.

only focusing on people after the fact. if we were to spend much more of our time in identifying people earlier in the process, maybe they are not at that point where they have a diagnosis, but they are starting to show the signs and the symptoms. we are going to be much more effective. we are more effective at treating and we prevent people from having significant long-term impacts. the chef that we believe we need to make this a movie called up string. we need to do much more in that area. if we can do that, it will begin to reduce the demand and create a more effective and efficient way of dealing with these issues. host: what was in the affordable

care act when it came to mental health issues. what were the american psychological association like to see in the next one? guest: one of things it talked about is making sure we find mental health services in the same way we fund physical health services. that is important. we have underfunded mental health services. we need more resources. what i would say, a couple of things that we need. we need more flexibility in the funding of mental health services. if you talk to mental health professionals, most of them that are in the category are in certain services. as of the caller talked about homelessness and mental health, people who have no health conditions, syria's health conditions and a whole variety of things that are not covered in that system.

we need to have more flexibility . we need to pay for services for people before they have a diagnosis. this is what we saw 30 pandemic. a number of people -- we assaulted the pandemic. a numerous of people had trement of stress. health care workers under stress. many of them may not of had a diagnosis but they could've benefited from help and support. one of the things we can do is, those officers to be covered. -- services to be covered. we have to increase the workforce around mental health. we do not have enough psychologists, social workers. until we can get more practitioners in addition to some of these other things, it is going to be difficult for us

to get our hands around it. host: in illinois. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you so much. i appreciate that you are speaking about this this morning. i think it is important that everyone hears this. i especially agree with getting help earlier. and a lot of people out there not getting the help that they need. any task force situation thank him and go forward will be wonderful. i think there is just way too much time passing before people get to help that they need. any money that could go into this would be great. i personally would just give you my experience when i did need help recently. it took me a long time to get her to somebody. i started with my primary care provider. they had to put in a referral.

then it went from them not calling me back, to me initiating and calling them. through a series of phone calls, i finally got to someone. i had been seeing a psychologist who has been helpful. i know that there are people out there who are overwhelmed and perhaps do not have the initiative to keep trying to seek that help. any screenings that could be done earlier would be great. i will take your response off the air so that maybe you could get to another caller. taking so much for getting this information out to people. guest: i'm glad to see you're getting the help you need and it is helpful. the point you made about people not having the whereabouts to get the help that they need because of the conditions that

they are seeking help for is a good one. one of the others that i think we need to mckinley the field is to not require people to come to us. -- in the field is not require people to come to us. that is historically what we have done. embed mental health infection roles -- professionals in the place that people go. thinking of our people live, work, play, worship and embedding mental health professionals in those settings can be effective. in philadelphia we had mental health professionals in every family court. we have mental health professionals in the jail lockup. when police officers arrests, sometimes those people have mental health conditions and may be officers did not recognize

that. we are able to recognize that and move them to mental health facilities. we even have people in libraries. in urban settings, people would use the library. if you know someone who knows how to identify and get those people connected to services it could be affected. the concept is, rather than only having people going to a mental health professional, think about the places where people are and mental health professionals in those settings and other settings, it could be much more effective by getting people the help that they need. host: the formal deputy commissioner of the connecticut department of mental health and addiction services, now the ceo of the american psychological association. good question from alex from silver spring in maryland.

asking good, based on these recommendations, where could we go for the screenings for anxiety and depression. we already talking about something a primary care doctor can do if they follow these recommendations, what if that primary care doctor is not doing this. is there someone like alex to get one of these. guest: you can recheck to mental health affectional. hopefully your primary care physician has a relation with your primary care physician. if not, you can reach out to the primary care doctor and ask for a referral. the other thing is to access mental health practitioners that you may have available. what i would recommend is that, if you have private insurance, to look at the network, call your insurance company. if you have public insurance, medicaid.

most days people have managed medicare. call out whoever pays for your health insurance and ask them and tell them what you are looking for and they can direct you to a provider. wisconsin. host: mike. caller: thank you for c-span. i would like dr. evans opinion on firearms. there are things in the last 20 years have never occurred before. guest: to couple of different ways. the first is to understand that, especially when we are talking about gun violence, it is not driven by mental health conditions. in fact, we know that people are more likely to have a mental

health condition are more likely to be a victim then people to commit violence. i wanted to make that clear. the issues around gun violence and its impact are a serious mental health issue. we knew that in communities where someone has been shot, those communities, there can be a rise in people seeking care in the aftermath of those conditions. we know that children who are exposed to gun violence or part of the community where gun violence they experienced trauma as a higher rate are what we call vicarious trauma, they may not have been personally or physically involved, but a witness or component seeing tape around your neighbor's house. those types of things do happen. my a mental health standpoint, we are recognizing the

importance of reaching out -- from a mental health standpoint, we are recognizing the importance of reaching caller: out. ng out. caller: caller: i coached myself into a trance. what happened was, the link between the conscious and the subconscious mind, i subconsciously responded to a command from my consciousness because i was able to follow the rules to go into a trance. this was a very light trance. it took me over an hour to get to that point. i follow exactly what you -- it told me to. i gave myself a careful order to raise my arm. just by thinking about it and my arm raised physically with force. i gave myself a second command to raise my arm were straight,

and it did. there's length between the -- link between the conscious and the subconscious. there's another book i read, i will not mention it, but it talks about the reactive mind and a conscious mind. the conscious mind is analytical. a subconscious mind is a more moronic mind. host: donald in california. hypnosis. guest: what i was hearing is the importance of mindfulness. there is a lot of research around mindfulness, understanding how we are feeling, being present. to practice mindfulness, it is related to better mental health. host: are you more inclined to one than the other? guest: meditation is much more focused on something that we can do or practice that can help our mental health. from that standpoint, i think

meditation is important to people. host: delay ohio, thanks for waiting. caller: good morning. how do i -- we help our children who we now have a mental problem. my son does not live with me. all of my relatives who hear him speak, they think he needs professional help. when i tell him he needs professional help, -- help, he gets angry with me. when i am finding is, he is an adult and you can't make him. i wonder what is going to happen to him. he is not a person that is going to go out to hurt anybody. he is more likely to hurt himself. what'll about people who are living with people who are mentally ill? i feel sorry for them.

i can't imagine waking up and you have somebody mentally ill. the only way you're going to get some help if they go out in the street and do something to somebody they do not know. and then the system will kick in. guest: in terms of your adult son, one of the things that has happened over the last several years is hiring people into the mental health system who have lived experience. people who have little health challenges and have recovered from that or in the process of recovering from that and bringing them into the mental health system to help others. very effective at reaching people, like your son who may be in a little bit of denial. it is hard for a mother to have that conversation. it is much easier for a peer to have that conversation.

depending on what state you live in, i would reach out to the mental health system and ask if they have peers who might be able to help with your son to help intervene. in terms of living with someone who has a mental health challenge, there are a number of support groups that family members can be a part of. i am a big fan of nationalized --. i'm sure you have a chapter in your community. i would reach out to them and they could be a very important resource for helping to provide you with information that can help you deal with someone who is experiencing and living with a mental health challenge. host: they.org have issues on the website that they talk about, 988 a number that you can call appeared guest: it is the limit of 911 for having a mental

health crisis. it is something that just kicked off a few weeks ago. it is a huge improvement. one of the things you will hear from people who experienced a mental health challenge, like the caller before, they do not know where to go or call. it is one of the reasons we see so many people accessing emergency departments as a way to get mental health help. 988 is that one number that you can call if you are in crisis. maybe if you're not in crisis and you need to talk. they can refer you to get the kind of mental health treatment that you need. host: glendale, california. good morning. caller: good morning. a doctor offense, can you hear me? good morning. i work in publications in the late 70's. early 80's. and worked on -- it has been a

wild. i am older. i would also like to say that, i believe that mental illness is biological. i also believe that it is in your diet. my grandmother, eventually she passed from alzheimer's. i remember in the early 80's she would use artificial sugaring. working in publications in washington dc, it was mentioned that flavorings and sugar in your diet and food has something to do with mental health. you can experience depression. for me, being injured has -- surgery.

for the younger generations, i truly believe that in the black community, there is a lot of the -- the environment as you were speaking on earlier, the environment at the schools -- situations. they hear grown-up things and fights. language. the house a lot to do with mental illness. i do agree. i'm happy to hear that 988 is the number to call instead of 911. guest: a lot of good things you are mentioning. what we know about mental health as they are caused by multiple things, sometimes biology, sometimes our diet.

certainly situations if someone has a close family member to die, you can have a reactive reaction to that. your response to trauma. you have a posttraumatic stress related to that. there are a variety of causes. one of the things that we think is really important, it is important to have the basic health literacy. having a understanding of, what are summative things that we can do to protect our health. what are some of the things that might cause problems for our mental health. steps and actions we can take. various roles that we play as parents and caregivers. there are a complex set of issues. it is still down to some principles that can help. let me just give a fugue that are important.

number one is probably the most predictor of our mental health and physical health is social support that we have in our life. the number of people that we have in our life who can provide a support is really important. one of the reasons that, at the beginning of the pandemic, many health professionals, people within the association predicted that we were going to see a rise in mental health conditions. the same time we were having the stretches related to the pandemic, we were taking away from people the most important coping mechanism, which is social connection. we saw that play out. understanding basic principles like the importance of social connection and in -- protecting our mental and physical health is important. issues around diet and exercise. those issues are also important to our mental health. the last thing i would mention that it's really important, how

we think about things in the world is really important. if we believe that things are going to be bad, or that bad things are going to happen and illuminate on that, that can affect our health. one of the things that we do when we are working with people, is we help them be much more aware of their thinking and to shift their thinking. that is one of the biggest ideas around behavioral therapy, which is one of the treatments we have for mental health conditions. host: these are all important conversations. we will do it again. thank you for your time. in our last half hour, it is the time in which we turn the phone lines over to you. it is our open form. in political or state issue, the

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continues. host: for the last 30 honestly are turning to the phone lines. democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001 independence, (202) 748-8002. over at the other end of pennsylvania avenue, president biden on his way back from delaware joining us from brief discussion on the week ahead at the white house, we are joined by adam of political, white house reporter. what is on task today at the white house? guest: thanks for having me today. it is a little bit of a busy week. it's going to be with the world champion atlanta braves who won the world series last year.

the president gets to host them at the white house. it is usually a lighthearted event. that will be eight entrance into a more serious week for the white house. president biden has a number of appearances on his schedule where he is going to try to highlight some of the administrations accomplishments, ahead of this midterm election in november. host: that happens tomorrow. take esther his day on tuesday. guest: there is none to be a speech about health care cost, medicare, social security. what we have seen over the past few weeks, democrats are trying to draw this contract with republicans over programs like medicare and social security. some candidates on the republican side are suggesting they want to -- medicare and social security. this is something that the white house sees as a political winner. wednesday, there's a conference

on hunger, nutrition and health where the white house will roll out targets on trying to reduce hunger in the u.s. drastically over the next several decades. host: on the politics side, where is the president going, where does the white house he had a advantage for democrats? where is the white house avoiding? where has some campaign said, we can do this without you appearing on the campaign trail ? guest: he has gone out and given a bit of a speech about all of the legislation that democrats have gotten past the last couple of months, the inflation reduction act being the main centerpiece. and talking about adjusting michael republicans. that is something in the

republican party branded. we are not seeing it as much as being on the trails with actual candidates. he has largely left those races alone. they have really been allowed to run their own races and it tried to put themselves in a great position. you are seeing a lot of campaign styled events. host: coming back to this week in washington dc, up here on capitol hill, it's effort to try to -- a government shutdown to get a new funding bill by friday at midnight. how engaged is the white house and negotiation's this week? guest: the white house is engaged.

i characterize it more as behind the scenes. you kind of have to let the senate and congress do their own thing. the good news, there is really not expected to be any kind of risk in terms of a government shutdown. aco will get it done most likely this week. the main reform the senator mentioned has been trying to get in there. if it is something that they white house is monitored closely. -- it is something that they white house is monitoring closely. it is not going to be something that biden himself is going to be driving. he is putting his trust in his democratic leaders. host: one of my missing? what else are you watching for this week? what else is on the agenda?

guest: a lot of it is going to be --. host: i think we lost him. guest: are we heading into a recession. that is a ongoing challenge for the white house to talk about. are we highlighting accomplishments. wage growth in gas prices dropping. that is what we are watching. host: a little bit of a audio trouble. thanks so much for the time. politico.com is where you can go to see his work. thanks for joining us on a monday morning. 45 minutes before the house comes in. it is open form. patty is waiting in harrisburg,

pennsylvania. what is on your mind? caller: the economy is ridiculous. the numbers of people having it is not right. i think it is important to focus more on -- instead of fighting along themselves. if we had more awareness of parkinson's, it could help a lot. host: do you have experience with that in your family? caller: i have parkinson's. i had parkinson's for 30 years now.

we need to research funds from the nih. host: how much have we advanced on the fight against parkinson's in the time that it has impacted your life? caller: substantial research. there are a new drugs that do help. [inaudible] they go into the brain, into the area of additional movement. then the other side of your brain, they put in. host: thanks so much for talking about it. i appreciate the call. page in denton, texas.

go ahead. caller: good morning. hello. i called earlier to comment on the social or economic, but to the point. in regards to the 50 billion given to ukraine, how can america come up with $50 billion to get to ukraine and watch people walk around homeless and starving in america? what is the justification? what is the explanation, i would like to know. host: with 50 additional funding attached to this government funding bill. it is one of the things congress put into the veil to keep the government going. friday midnight is when the government shutdown would happen unless a deal is reached. this is arnold in texas.

republican. in morning. caller: good morning. i would like to say the open border situation is starving because of the fentanyl that is coming across the border that has killed people. there are lots of people who are friends of these people. i do not understand this open border policy that the democrats have come up with. thank you very much. host: roosevelt in brooklyn. caller: good morning. i'm calling in reference to stay on topic about the last speaker you had discussing psychological issues. my point is, i am a bit better.

i had a nervous breakdown while i was in vietnam. i was referred to a psychologist in vietnam. my point is, the psychologist that i met with, he was a white. i am a black gentleman. right away we could not connect. at least i could not connect with him. my point is, i would like to share this with the audience, if you do seek psychological help, with this be feedback that would relate to the history as a kid. it think things i'm trying to

share with you, i do not think he could identify with. i am 74 years old. today i still have the same issues that i suffered with vietnam. i had a young white psychologist, she cannot relate to my issues. somebody should emphasize the point and try to meet with someone who could identify with your background or history. that is all i would like to say. host: randy in pennsylvania. good morning. caller: demand that was just on there, i feel for him -- the man

that was just on there, i feel for him. as far as this mental health thing that is going on, with anxiety, they are going to label you mentally unstable. so you can't have a firearm. i moved to shreveport, louisiana. i did not have insurance so i had to go to lsu at the time. i had a sinus infection. that is all i had going on. every doctor i went to in town, every one of them wants to put you on a antidepressant. i was not depressed, i had a sinus infection. they are pushing these drugs on the kids and the public and they

probably do not even need them. i grew up just fine. this mental health thing, there is a -- there is something underlying about all of that. i would be very careful about going to see some dr.. as far as the border goes, how much disease. host: this is kathy in louisiana. independent. caller: good morning. i would like everybody to pay attention to the who meeting. they will be voting again on

this pandemic treaty that will have up our sovereignty. i do have something specific that i could talk to on the mental health problem. the clinic i am seeing has started summarizing my mental health synopsis of my meeting. insurance companies are privy to the information. i agree to the last caller. i made complaints. i was made to feel like a inferior person. i felt i had had covid and did not want a vaccination. i am only health insurance exchange, have been for five years.

what is going on is not right. everybody pay attention to that who. thank you. host: jill in florida. democrat. caller: good morning. i have two quick issues. number one, the screening for anxiety. it was recorded in the new york times recently. there are 95 people trained -- there are not many people trained to treat the people who identified with anxiety. i am a retired guidance counselor in new york city. i'm very familiar with the need to treat people with these issues. i received a masters degree from

hunter college. it was only a 30 degree program. i took the funds in different programs to train people. my other issue is regarding a national popular vote movement. not getting enough attention. if c-span can have a vote on this i think would be helpful. this will be a solution to resolve the issue so that whoever gets the most votes could lose the election. there was a spokesperson for this movement. i think it would be interesting for c-span to pay attention to get this done. host: just bringing up the last time we talked about the national popular vote movement.

i think in between 19. perhaps it is a topic that we can touch on again. i always appreciate suggestions. you mentioned you were a counselor, what was the typical issues that you were dealing with as a counselor at that time . when we talk about the issues of mental health, what were the typical mental health issues as you dealt with? caller: it would be family issues. divorce, separations, things like that. host: how long were you a counselor? caller: i was a teacher for about 15 years and 15 years of counseling. i also served as the vietnam veteran council, which was probably the most rewarding thing i ever did. there was something called a craftsman bar, which is

sponsored and provided funds to provide counseling to vietnam veterans. i served for one year in hunter college and that was rewarding. vietnam veterans war ignored and did not get much respect. there was a great need at that time. host: thanks for the call. in arkansas. caller: my concern is, i called in last week about the election. i could not there at that time. i am concerned about these voter registrations not being cleaned up. we have all of these people dying from covid.

my mother voted in 2020. she has been dead for six years. i have been getting tax -- for the last few years. an illegal immigrant working on my social security number and i can get anything done about it. all of these people stealing information. host: clear deceased mother voting, tell me more about -- on your deceased mother voting, tell me about that story. caller: i have got these letters about health plans that she was eligible for. i started calling and to figure out why i was getting these letters. i tracked down three different

ones that took her name and her address after she had voted. host: you said she had cast a ballot in the election? caller: she cast a democratic ballot first time ever. she had been dead first six years. host: six minutes left before the house comes in. stay with us. today, president biden with this tweet this morning, knowing jewish holiday, will liberate the birth of the world in the getting of the world. jill and i welcome warm wishes. may your players be heard. one op-ed showed you this

morning that the second gentleman of the united states, it could be a time to recommit ourselves. -- as we look forward to the new year, we must continue forward in building a society that is free of bigotry and commit ourselves in committing. he writes, what kind of world do we want to live in? that is in usa today. back to phone calls until the house comes in. republican. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my phone call. we had a situation happen in florida. there was a company -- 100 illegal people. one of the persons he hired was

deported and launched. this guy was using construction equipment that he was not qualified to be on. he ran on a --. one year this guy was here illegally from honduras. this whole situation is getting real bad with these people coming in and running around without drivers and everything else. thank you. host: diane in dallas, iowa. caller: the guy that was talking about the mental illness and who needs to be careful with that, he is right. i live in rural. trying to find a primary doctor.

i will write out everything that i want to talk about. they do not even stick with 15 minutes anymore. they want to talk about one thing and then they shall be out the door. it just makes me mad because the doctors are gas lighting us. you know? another think about the illegal aliens, the guy that killed her in iowa was illegal too. that was a egg farmer. host: this is jane in long island. caller: can morning. i was misdiagnosed. i worked at the racetrack. in one year my husband died. i got attacked and raked by

off-duty cops and i got cancer. i am 52 years old. i went to a hospital here, they diagnosed with me with most likely schizophrenia. you know how serious that is? now i am going back to texas driving that crap with me. not a happy camper. they do not see you. they see a quantity that they have to fill. they assume that you aren't. my only problem is, i was dealing with rape. when i got taken to the hospital, when they saw on my record, schizophrenia, you

know with the psychiatrist said, they saw my mother in the emergency room. guess what? my mother was long dead and i was there alone. host: duck in wisconsin. republican. -- back in wisconsin. republican. caller: can morning. -- good morning. abused, physical or sexual abuse people can experience at home, if i psychiatrist comes in and talk to the kids and let them know that this kind of stuff should not be happening to you at home or you should not be smoking marijuana. i think children would be far better because parents are not

talking to them about it. they will also be more willing to talk to a doctor if they came by month to month to let them know, this should not be happening to you. children should not be talking to teachers. if they know that dr. is not going to be there for another month, they will probably tell them. one other thing is, i love being a mom. with transgender kids, i see them. those kids are always protected by some teacher in the school. they should be. they should be integrated.

also one day they could allow kids to be -- in school and normalize that behavior. host: this is anthony as we wait for the house to come in. caller: hello. how are you doing john? i never had a opportunity to call. i always appreciate your humbleness. i wanted to talk about the election. i am so disappointed with both the democrats and republicans. how they are not working to help us as citizens. i think they can do better. i hope they can help us with our

groceries and issues of our housing costs and mortgage. that is all i wanted to say. i really wanted to come in and speak with c-span. i really appreciate when you host. host: as we wait for the house to come in. it will be just a few minutes. afterwards, we will take you to kentucky. senator kyrsten sinema is giving on a -- from mitch mcconnell the story noting that the arizona democrats within her party sometimes helping republican. the 10:00 a.m. event hosted by the kentucky republican leader.

again, you can watch that coming up in just a few minutes here on c-span. before that, we take you live to the house floor for gavel-to-gavel coverage of that pro-form in session. the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. the chair lays before the house a communication from the speaker. the clerk: the speaker's rooms, washington, d.c. september 26, 2022. i hereby appoint the honorable debbie dingell to act as speaker pro tempore on this day. signed, nancy pelosi, speaker of the house of representatives. the speaker pro tempore: thepr