♪ host: good morning, thursday, september 29th, 2022. hurricane ian made landfall yesterday in southwest florida as a category four storm, going down as one of the strongest hurricanes ever to hit the united states. millions of florida residents are without power as tropical storm and moves across central or to producing heavy rains with continuing storm surge of cross of coast. this morning we are opening the phones to hear from you.

we want to hear from florida residents. here is how you can reach us. florida residents can call this morning at (202) 748-8000. others in the eastern central time zones, (202) 748-8001. if you are in the mountain or pacific time zones, (202) 748-8002. you can also send us a text this morning, (202) 748-8003. if you do, please include your name and where you are from. otherwise catch up with us on social media, on twitter, @cspanwj, facebook is facebook.com/c-span. good thursday morning to you. go ahead and start calling and now. we want to start by showing you the front pages of newspapers out of the sunshine state. this from florida, the headline with that satellite image of hurricane ian arriving. the front page this morning of the tampa bay times, sub headline saying that at 150 miles per hour, it ties charlie

and a 1919 storm as the states fourth-largest. the front page this morning of the miami herald, monster ian arrives. naples daily news, that headline, southwest florida slammed. and the villages, "the daily sun," ian roars ashore, governor desantis saying it will be a nasty few days. as we said, hurricane ian officially made landfall at 3 p.m. yesterday. that's the satellite image from overnight from noa there tracking ian across the state. a couple of hours after it made landfall, governor desantis made these comments to reporters in florida. [video clip] >> we have one point one millionth power outages. crews are working outside of

southwest florida but understand the number is going to grow, you will see more power outages as the storm moves through the center part of the state fort exits into the atlantic coast. there are 100 portable cell phone towers ready to be to avoid into southwest florida. we want to make sure that people are staying out of the way of emergency crews, floodwaters and downed power lines. as soon emergency crews can get in, they will get in. as soon as it is safe to go and clear the roadways, the department of transportation is going to go clear the roadways. it's all on standby, ready to go . they understand the importance of a really quick response. as i mentioned earlier, we have officially the letter with a request to the biden administration for a major disaster declaration for all 67 counties requesting the federal government do 100 percent

reimbursement upfront for 60 days to make sure that we can quickly move forward into the response and recovery phase. i know that sometimes they wait until different damage assessments are made but in this situation we have a massive category four storm. if you compare charlie to this, it's way, way, way bigger than charlie. it was as strong coming in but charlie was much smaller. so this is a big one and we all know that there is going to be major, major impact. host: that was yesterday at 5:30 p.m. eastern and we are expecting to hear more from governor desantis this morning with a briefing expected at 8:45 a.m. and we will bring you the latest from that. here is the latest from noa from their tracking of tropical storm ian. tropical storm ian is expected to still produce a strong wind

and heavy rain, storm surge across portions of the carolinas , georgia. we can show you what the latest tracking looks like from the satellite images there. there are still warnings along the east and west coast with ian moving to the northeast, turning towards the northeast later today, followed by a turn towards the north and northwest with an increase in forward speed friday and friday night. it is expected to move off the east central coast of florida later today and approach the coast of south carolina on friday, the center moving further in land friday night and into saturday with maximum sustained winds decreasing this morning, 65 miles per hour, that's the satellite image therefrom noaa that you can see online as well. here's how to get in touch with us this morning. we are talking about the hurricane, state and federal natural disaster despond -- response.

we also want to hear your thoughts this morning and from florida residents. (202) 748-8000 if you are in florida. otherwise if you are in the eastern central time zones, (202) 748-8001. if you are in the mountain pacific time zones, (202) 748-8002. douglas, florida, whereabouts in florida are you, douglas? >> coco. the eye is just about over top of us right now. they god it wasn't too bad. host: what are you seeing and how have you prepared? caller: i've been through so many, been here since the 60's, doesn't really bother me really. [laughter] thunderstorms, i want everybody to please say a prayer for the people on the west coast of florida, they caught it bad. that's all i wanted to say. thank you very much. host: remind folks where coco is

so they can orient themselves. caller: you see the little cape about halfway up the east coast? that's kate kennedy, cape canaveral, whatever you want to call it. i'm about 15 miles from there. >> in a little late. host: what's the worst storm you have seen since your time there in the 60's? caller: donna. it rained so hard that the rain was coming between the walls of the foundation that time. it was bad. host: when was donna? caller: like 62. host: anybody, any of your neighbors evacuated at this point? caller: i doubt it. we have fairly sturdy block houses and we were across the state from the worst of it. but when they had that one come through, what a storm.

host: how do you think your governor is doing handling the storm? a lot of eyes on ron desantis. caller: he's doing a good job. i don't care for him much but he is doing a good job. host: douglas, stay safe. thanks for calling in this morning. florida residents, a special line for you this morning, (202) 748-8000. otherwise we have broken up things by time zone. a few tweets from members of congress, the florida delegation. congressman greg steube, 17th district of florida. "communities will not look the same after this storm passes, god bless everyone in the path of the storm." congresswoman val demings from

florida, "unlike some other hurricanes, the rear side of ian is exceptionally strong. do not get complacent, stay safe . she's from the orlando area, central florida. she is also running for senate as a democrat in florida this cycle. then republican senator rick scott, "florida first responders are the best in the nation and have worked around-the-clock and they are working hard to keep us safe, thinking first responders or what they do or cope want to hear from florida residents this morning. bill, orange park, good morning. caller: yeah. it's not too bad here. i'm in the northern part, next door to jacksonville. host: not much happening your way? caller: they figure it will in

another six or seven hours. when i first moved here in the 90's, 91, i came home from work and i noticed both sides, both ends of my block were shut down. i drove in there and i said what's going on and they said we are having a hurricane party and i said what? i couldn't believe it. hurricane coming and they were having a block party. everyone had their barbecue out. host: is that just about how florida residents deal with these natural disasters as they come on a yearly basis? caller: i think florida's got to be one of the cleanest states in the union because every year we get it cleaned with a hurricane. when they do hit, it's all cleaned up, the dead trees gone. you know, a few but i watched the news last night and i heard a guy say man look at all the

styrofoam blowing around. well styrofoam blows around in my house. host: bill out of orange park. rob, clearwater. how you doing? caller: my roof is leaking. lot of rain damage, trees and stuff. other than that, i need help. host: you said you need help? caller: probably, yeah. i'm not sure what pays for it, insurance or people. i've been living here 25 years. host: what are you hearing from the state officials, the local officials in your area? caller: nothing yet. just that they are clearing the roads. telling everybody to stay indoors and stuff. that's all that i hear. besides that, that's it.

anyway, thanks for taking my call. host: for their evacuations there around clearwater? caller: st. petersburg. a, something like that. campus, i think if it was a mobile home there was an evacuation. that's what i heard. far is that, no runoff where i live. that's the miracle. i mean i still got a bunch of it but other people across the street from me, their power is off. my side, it's not off yet. thank you. host: latest reports are 2 million plus across the state with power out. those numbers are expected to rise. ian is expected to move off the west coast there. the eye of the tropical storm

moving off the east coast of florida, making a turn to the north and then back to the west, expected to perhaps move over the south carolina coast at some point in the coming day or so. getting her thoughts on the federal state response in the news coverage of this hurricane. phone lines again for florida residents and then the rest in the east coast and central region, phone lines are for those in the mountain pacific region. allen out of brooklyn, new york. what are your thoughts? >> good morning, i was struck by this and this acting civil towards a president when they needed republic -- when they needed federal aid but he and rick scott didn't seem to be ready to admit proper science

around climate science in their curricula, which if followed more faithfully earlier might have helped prevent some of this scenario and the storm. i think we really have to ask whether someone can be a sunshine disaster governor, someone who's going to be ok denying the truth of science 100 days out of the year and then one day out of the year when there is a disaster they can suddenly accept federal aid from those who accept the science. i think we need more consistency and less hypocrisy in leadership going forward in a way that works at the federal and state levels. host: interesting story on that front, all eyes on the desantis relationship with biden as hurricane ian approaches florida . looking at how three previous presidents worked with or didn't work with governors on disaster

relief efforts. one of those they took a look at was the george w. bush relationship with kathleen blanco and louisiana back in 2005 when hurricane katrina hit. if you want to take a look at that story it's business insider.com. this is robert in st. petersburg, florida. how you doing there? host: doing very -- caller: doing very good, thank you. my wife and i live in a 55 plus community. we have got something like 30 buildings on the campus. condos. woke up this morning, started raining. standing water. we did not lose electricity once whatsoever. we live in zip code 3370 -- excuse me, 33709. as late as last saturday we went to the nearby walmart and while it was crowded we were able to get two cases of water and just

about anything we wanted and everybody behaved civil, was cooperative. we've been very fortunate right here in this zip code. as far as climate change, climate change has been going on since the end of the last ice age. host: there's been a lot of concern over the st. petersburg campus area in the final approach to florida. what were you thinking just a couple of days ago? caller: we were prepared for the worst. we moved down here for days -- four years ago. we long had a condo but moved down here before we ever left our home in north carolina and my wife and i decided that we, i'm 79, she's past 80.

we, we decided we were not going to leave. we heard too many stories of people in heavy traffic going north. tough times getting gas. tough times getting food. we just decided we were going to stay. so you know, we bought a bunch of spam and water, plus we've got a couple of cats we didn't want to move and we decided we were going to stay. ok, yeah, looking at the local channel news this morning. have a station in fort myers and sanibel island is just awful. the causeway to sanibel island, beautiful place. we've gone down there. we've enjoyed lunch there. the causeway is gone. i cannot imagine the destruction in fort myers.

not too long ago we took a day cruise to sarasota bay. some of those homes, some of those homes in sarasota bay, i had no idea. they are just luxury. they face the golf, i don't know how they would survive. but here in saint pete turned away and we never even lost electricity. many, many people in the lower part of this condo campus did move to high ground. we had a nearby catholic church that was so welcoming to us to move the causeway. it's within walking distance. you can look at the landscape and you can tell the catholic church, it looks like it's six feet to eight feet higher. coming down a slight slope to the condo. we were just fortunate. i don't know what we call it. fake or whatever. it really looks tough to the south of us.

host: for those of us who don't live in florida, six feet to eight feet is high ground? host: -- caller: as the crow flies we are a good eight to 10 miles from the beaches. but you know, if you are going to have a storm surge, i would think that six feet makes a lot of difference. right here in pinellas county, if you look here it's basically a peninsula. the bay on one side, a golf on the other side. we live in a three-story building and our neighbors upstairs had told us that if it gets bad, come upstairs. at least you will have your feet dry. we, we had no problem. what can i say. whatever one might call it.

fate, however the hurricane came in, we were prepared for the worse. we've gotten too old to get out on the expressway. host: robert, thank you for telling us about it this morning. st. petersburg, in focus on the area that took the brunt of the hurricane impact, that fort myers area. this is the headline there today. ian pummels the region, between fort myers and port charlotte, that category four storm, that area includes charlotte county, the fourth fastest growing metro area from july of 2020 to july of 2021 according to the census bureau. ranked as the second best place in the county to retire, six fastest growing city in 2021.

looking at the new homes in residence coming there the past couple of years. 10 minutes here, first half-hour this morning getting your response to the hurricane landing, to the news coverage. to the federal response to the hurricane. we have got phone lines from florida residents, but also split regionally. we will look for your phone calls, including john in springfield, virginia. good morning, sir. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. i always appreciate c-span. i think that's happening order -- in florida, from a spiritual perspective, it's just what the santos did to those -- ron desantis did to those venezuelan immigrants by dropping them off in martha's vineyard and i hope that some of those folks in martha's vineyard are willing to come down and help florida guys, considering they don't believe in science, that they treat

immigrants in a bad way when in reality this country has really moved forward because of the immigrants that have come to this country. i think this is just sort of a punishment because of the santos being such a mean person to everyone that the hurricane came and struck and was so strong. fortunately we haven't had any lights off. but still it's a lot of damage and a lot of these 4 -- florida coast -- florida folks are going to be building of the coast, florida will be gone in a few decades, underwater, they keep moving down there. that's all i had to say. thank you. host: that was john in virginia. on the life cash on the lights out. still a lot of damage to sort through. we will keep you updated as now tropical storm beta and is moving off of the -- tropical storm ian is moving north and

west a little bit later. hearing from you, especially want to hear from florida residents. virginia in orlando, good morning. we were hearing about rainfall nearing 1.5 feet to two feet in your area. what are you feeling? caller: praising god that we don't have a. i was worried about it but it didn't overflow. the only thing that has happened so far that i can see is that the pool cover has a lot of wind damage. i just want to say this and i know you will cut me off when i say it these listen to me. i want you to know that i'm an educated person and i did work for the government for 40 years. i retired. i do believe in the word of god. on the day that governor desantis sent those immigrants

from texas up to martha's five yard, i told -- martha's vineyard, i told my friends and family to get ready, he has brought a curse to this state. we are supposed to be good to the immigrants. god said that when we tilled the fields we should leave vegetables and food for them. i knew that as we talked about it, there have been storms here. i have lived in florida for five years. there have been storms and i know there have been hurricanes, but this one, this one here was brought on by our governor being so people, the way that he treated immigrants. that's how i feel about it. host: that's virginia in orlando, florida. this is linda in boca raton, florida. good morning. caller: i've been a florida resident for over a decade, go

gators, we will get through this. my warning is to the snowbirds who haven't take lou. turns out florida is not just a sunshine state, it's a reptile state and you will get a lot of misplaced animals. don't go out there near water. there are alligators and displaced animals like pythons. these are attack animals and they will get whatever they can get. don't think it's so cute to go out near the water and see what's what and all that. you had better just listen to all the workers who are out there putting things back together and stay away from the water and stay indoors as they tell you and that's all i have to say. host: boca raton, florida, when it comes to warnings this is president biden yesterday issuing a warning to the oil and gas producers who might be looking to benefit from ian. the president, yesterday.

[video clip] >> do not, let me repeat, do not use this as an excuse to raise gasoline prices to gouge the american people. [applause] the price of oil has stayed relatively low as cap going down. the price of assets should be going down as well. my experts informed me that the production of only about 190,000 barrels per day has been impacted by the storm thus far. that's less than 2% of the united states impacted for a short amount of time. this small temporary storm impact on oil production provides no excuse, no excuse for price increases at the pump. none. gas companies, if they try to use this storm to raise prices at the pump i will ask officials to look into whether price gouging is going on. to the americans watching, the

industry should be doing the right thing and they should be doing it more quickly now to bring the price down at the pump. there is too much of a delay between the price of a barrel of gas and oil and the price at the pump. host: that was president biden, yesterday. getting your thoughts on the hurricane and take federal response. news coverage of the hurricane as well for florida residents, that is what we are prioritizing this morning. henrietta pierce, florida, good morning. caller: hi, good morning. mighty windy around here. 55 mile per hour wind. i just want to say, the bashing of this great governor, ron desantis, is completely outrageous. how come i'm not being heard?

host: i'm hearing you, henrietta. go ahead. caller: sorry, sorry about that. i think ron desantis is a fabulous governor. i have had two hurricane experiences. one in new jersey called sandy. the heads of miscommunication were on display. ron desantis in florida knows exactly what he's doing. he is a guy who gets stuff done. i moved from new jersey because new jersey is a horrible place, sorry to say. i am very happy in florida. i say donald trump for four years, ron desantis for eight. thank you very much. host: if it came to picking and a republican primary between donald trump and ron desantis, you would pick ron desantis?

caller: no, i say donald trump four years, ron desantis eight years. i like my governor. host: you want for more of trump, than eight years of ron desantis. caller: exactly. he will straighten the country out. host: that's henrietta in fort pierce, florida. ron desantis peace pipe coming in this morning. lou writing this morning on twitter, the hard work is ahead. cleaning up florida. we need to regard immigrants as assets and not liabilities. pamela miller writing in that these storms are getting worse, perhaps disaster courses should be offered in high school so the people could be told not to do stupid stuff during hurricanes. one more call from the state of florida, tampa. patricia, good morning. caller: good morning. i was about to say we have the

greatest governor on earth. he was informing us unbelievably . he was fantastic. he was articulate. he was a leader. we are happy to have him as our governor. i'm very thrilled. host: how are you doing in tampa? how is it there? caller: absolutely had no real damage at all. just mother nature doing the pruning of the trees. that's about it over in tampa. we missed it. but like i said, i don't, people go well, tampa, you guys should have got this worse than us and i say mother nature goes where she wants when she wants. i'm just happy that we have our governor to lead us here. he's fantastic and please, please, please, stop politicizing. stop showing emails that are particular us against our,

making political statements. we are all in this together. i've got a nato neighborhood. every ethnic city helping each other, loving each other. the only sites on television and in the lbj, legislative executive judicial offices. we need a people's office to oversee the legislative executive judicial branches. that is how we should change our government and the way that we handle things. thank you very much. host: i would've people's office work? -- how would a people's office work? caller: it would oversee everything the other branches approve of. i want to have the final say in how this country is run. all of us. every ethnicity will have a final say in what this

government approves of. host: so referendums on legislation, is that what you are saying? caller: we have an educated, i am, a suburban educated woman, educated people in all parts of life in terms of financial, judicial, legislative. we have a cadre of intelligent people that would actually oversee the final decisions of the legislative, executive, and judicial branches. we would have a final say, one quarter percent of the say. there would be three divisions and the final word would be the people's branch. host: that's patricia in florida this morning. last caller in this segment. we will have plenty of more time this morning. a couple of segments of open forum and then we can get back

to the hurricane response as well. coming up, we talked a two house lawmakers this morning talking about the upcoming both on the stopgap funding bill. the first is french hill, who serves on the house financial services committee. later this morning joined by david price of north carolina. member of the budget appropriations committee. stick around, we will be right back. ♪ >> listening to programs on c-span radio just got easier. tell your smart speaker to play c-span radio and listen to "washington journal" daily. weekdays at 5 p.m. and 9 p.m.

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appropriations bill, six of them past. normally controlled by the democrats in the house and senate. i'm leaning no on it. we should have had our appropriation bills done this summer, fully funding the government before september 30. we also should have permanently extended the flood insurance program. the tragedy in florida demonstrates the need for a permanent tension of the flood program. this will be the 18th temporary contingent program. host: this stopgap program, what happens that doesn't get past, as you are saying? do you want it as a separate bill? guest: the democrats have the obligation and they should produce the votes on this continuing resolution. we will want to have a discussion about public funding for fy 2023. that's with the american people

sent us here to do host: guest: appropriations past even though they control all the branches of government. it will just put out the continuing resolution or a month or so after the election and it will come back and have the more rigorous bipartisan debate on fy 2023 final spending. host: do you think that debate will happen in a lame-duck session? is there enough time? guest: i think it will lead to the omnibus spending bill. they didn't get their work done. the debate was vigorous last year and i believe that this year there will be another six of them.

host: you have served on the financial services committee for a while and in the h w bush administration in the treasury department. so much discussion of inflation in this country. i wonder your thoughts on how the federal reserve is handling bringing down inflation. is there more they could be doing, more the congress could be doing? host: i think we are late. the monetary policy aspect, the effort by the fed is two years late and it has been exacerbated by the biden administration's massive spending and green writing, approval of $5 trillion more in federal spending on top of what we spend every year to run the federal government. it's a combination of immense federal spending, for school spending by the biden administration in the fact the federal reserve is lake in their principal bashan, price stability, puts us on a tough mission.

we should have started sooner, shirking the balance sheet, lifting the interest rate off of zero from the pandemic. we should have him back to pre-pandemic spending policies and moving back towards a balanced touch it closer to doubling down on spending. that's what created this inflation, the worst in 40 years. host: are we moving in that -- the right direction now? guest: we are but it is in the headwind of all of this fiscal laxity in spending. still spending money like drunken sailors here on top of using the pandemic as an excuse. it makes the job of the fed harder. we have had 15 months of inflation now at high levels. 5%, 8%, four times the goal of the fed at 2%.

it's stubborn and i think it will take quite a bit of work before it comes back down in terms of inflation expectations. that's what we are looking for, inflation expectations from business owners and investors. host: if republicans take the house and senate, are we going to see balanced budget? guest: we will work on that, on something that i thought we had agreed on for the past four decades, smaller deficits. having a debate in this republic about how to get there, we have just abandoned that in the pandemic at eye thicket has led to inflation. host: let me get the phone lines split as usual. democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001.

independents, (202) 748-8002. c-span viewers yesterday after this program we showed a senate hearing on russian sanctions. you are involved in some of that effort. the russia and belarus fdr exchange prohibition act, explain what that does. guest: the senate passed a bill last week limiting the u.s. treasury department from exchanging the special drawing rights of the imf for russia or belarus. in other words, it takes the ability of belarus and russia to convert their imf assets to cash or another currency, dollars. this is one of the sanctions that congress has put on russia for the illegal invasion of ukraine. rick scott, joe manchin introduced my bill and it passed unanimously and is going to president biden now. it's one of many things we need

to do to make russia pay a high price. host: for some of the folks who don't understand the process, haven't there already been so many sanctions? guest: this is a law directing the treasury secretary do it as opposed to the treasury secretary saying she will do it. it is not, the imf issued a special drawing on assets in the central banks around the world on currencies that are fungible. meaning china could use it as collateral for a loan. this is a way to make the statement that we want, to make sure that russia cannot access imf moneys from other countries like china or iran to finance their war in this is just one of the steps. host: congressman french hill, former finance deputy secretary,

led the design on the assistance of versioning economies after the berlin wall fell. that was guest: well countries -- expend what that was. guest: after freeing themselves from soviet domination and communism, the u.s. and european partners stepped up. it's an accounting system, we abandoned communism and socialism. is the cause of the efforts of the u.s., working together to free the people from the shackles of communism. host: knoxville, maryland sup first. good morning. caller: i just want to ask the congressman, what is this monday

morning quarterbacking? without these continuing resolutions continuing to happen? i was proud to see biden get some infrastructure coming through. in the first years of the trump administration that didn't happen when they had all three houses of government. i'm curious as to what the proposals are from the conservatives. guest: thank you for your call. first, i believe that congress should pass those appropriations bills before september 30 every year. we have a bad track record of doing that every year. if you are asking what the solution is, that's number one, use regular order to make sure those buildings are debated and passed. i saw it happen in the 1980's on a routine basis. for the last 30 years i haven't seen it done. that's conservative constitutional article one approach. second, let's get back to

pre-pandemic spending debates. what are we spending on social policy in the united states? let's have that debate and recognize that republicans and democrats over the course of modern history in the u.s. generally believe that lower deficits are better than larger deficits. but in the pandemic we have abandoned that and many democrats have adopted what they call the modern monetary theory that says there is no limit to how much money we can borrow in capital markets and spend on the deficits that we run until he creates inflation. guess what? they got their wish. we now have extraordinary inflation due to the exceptional and extraordinary spending taking place in the name of fighting the pandemic. host: from the pew research center, congress and budgetary

work, in the four years of budgeting and spending with tax dollars in effect congress passing all measures on tom -- on time only four times. 77, 89, 95, and most recently 97. host: a terrible -- guest: a terrible track record and it all comes back to 1974. we need to reform. my colleague from arkansas led a group on how to approve the project -- improve the budget process but speaker pelosi didn't allow it to come to the floor for debate in the last congress. i hope we can get back to that. we ought to do it and we know how to do it. host: monroe, north carolina, good morning. caller: when it comes to the spending of president biden, he is spending a lot of money

overseas. a lot of people here could use that money. sending it to places like ukraine and some money elsewhere, i can't recall. people here could use that money. mississippi is in a lot of trouble. the florida area is going to be in a lot of trouble. north carolina. [no audio] host: apologize. on money sent overseas, emergency assistance to ukraine, is that one piece that you could support? guest: i will support additional funding for ukraine. i have asked consistently that we do the $40 billion from a few months ago with military humanitarian assistance and i'm looking for an accounting going back to congress that was specifically spent on defense department humanitarian issues. how does this contribution relate congress need to make a

more informed analysis of the biden proposal. if we are to support the partners in europe kicking vladimir putin out, america has a defensive posture and leadership in nato but we need to play a senior role. host: are there more weapons we should be providing to your brain then we already are? guest: going back to the obama ministration they did not abide weapons always been a step behind ukrainians what they need in my opinion. and when we did do that, the russian invasion, we have always been a step behind. but i do think that in the last months we have done a good job. giving them the kinds of artillery and weapons they need to repel the russians. and i think this is reflected in their sweeping successes of recently. host: lancaster, independent

line, good morning. caller: i've been a republican my entire life, 1970, i guess. after the insurrection i was so disgusted with the republican party. where i'm going with this, first of all inflation is just -- at this point, you know, in the united states it's basically all over the world. every time i hear the congressman speak in terms of we, isn't we i? especially dan -- blaming the democrats. by the way i changed my affiliation to independent. i'm also disgusted with the democrats in the way we pulled out of afghanistan. however, what i really want, and i got two, a couple of pointed questions for this congressman. number one, do you believe that the, that trump won the election

and -- or lost the election? guest: what's your second question? well, i've said all along, president trump lost the election in 2020. i'm sorry he did, i voted for him. he did many positive things on domestic policy and foreign policy, opened up a new chapter of relations with the abraham accords, strengthened the nato partnership and our relationships here by approving regulatory policies. i supported him. but he lost the election. and i'm sorry about that. as far as certifying the election i think people need to be thinking about future elections. that's what i'm working on. that's why i hope the house is taken back by republicans this fall so that we can change some of those things that president biden has altered.

i'm ready for generational change. i think president trump might be too old to run for reelection. i think he did a great job on the policy side when he was president, but i really think that we need generational change in both parties and i wouldn't be surprised if 2024 was an open election with new candidates in both parties. host: someone you have in mind for the generational change question mark guest: between 45 -- change? guest: between 45 and 605i see a lot of people ready to lead this country. host: stephen, good morning. caller: i was really concerned about the wargaming, you know, like do they know what they are doing, do the indians know what they are doing? i want to give them a big shout out there.

they really, really did great. host: hard to hear, what was your question? guest: what happens if weeks -- caller: what happens if we collapse the russian empire? we are kicking there but right now. what happens next? guest: stephen, thanks for the call and thanks to the complement -- for the complement to our army trainers. it is true that since vladimir putin invaded ukraine and took a crimea in 2014, nato countries and the united date stepped up our training for ukraine. ukraine has had an amazing fight in them after being invaded but i don't think it has anything to do with the russian empire. this is about rejecting putin

from invading a sovereign independent country. these people do not want to be subjugated by peter the great 2.0 in the form of vladimir putin. they want their independence. they want -- they look to the west in europe. i appreciate our partner countries who are helping financially in the ejecting putin from ukraine. host: so russia follows through and then putin says let's end the war and negotiate and stop the war with the annexation. should the united states support peace talks at that point? or support ukraine continuing until russia is off every bit of soil that they took at the beginning of the war? guest: ukraine is a sovereign country.

there is no russian part of ukraine. the annexation of crimea was illegal and not adequately pushed back against by the obama administration or by europe. the fake elections in the donbass region are not real. it's ultimately in the hands of the ukrainian government and parliament to decide what to do about driving russia out and how to negotiate peace so that people can return to their villages and farms. host: germantown, maryland. joanna. good morning. caller: good morning. congressman i think you are being a bit disingenuous. it is a fact that eitan has reduced the deficit by over one third. with the inflation reduction act and a couple of the other things he's done, he is heaving to reduce. secondly, trump exploded the deficit when he gave your

billionaire cronies all the money in tax relief. it's important to put out that -- put out fact instead of trying to something. sorry, i'm nervous. i find it outrageous that you guys cannot be truthful. he has reduced the deficit and i will tell you something else. he, trump shut down the government. i know at least twice. one for a very long. of time. a friend at my church lost her job because of that. she worked for a company that was a government company. guest: let me respond. first, president biden saying he has cut the deficit, that is from the cares act of appropriating $5 trillion to fight the pandemic.

but if you look at the ongoing budget in the budget deficit and percentage of gdp for the next 10 years, we are expecting a $1 trillion per year deficit and next year if the courts approve his student loan forgiveness plan, plus the fact that the federal reserve no longer produces a profit, you could see a budget deficit next year of 1.5, $1.6 trillion. the disingenuous approach year is what president biden is doing taking credit for cutting the deficit in 2020, 2021 from the pandemic. he is actually approving significant spending way above what we normally spend in a year . on your second point on government shutdown, yes, i think that was the longest shutdown in government history, between president -- senator

schumer and president trump in debating adequate funding for border security. americans want border security. they want our border closed. they don't want to pouring into the country. immigration laws, they want us to have a secure border while promoting solid legal immigration into the country. that's what the shutdown fight was about. that happens in government. we all see government shutdowns sometimes, it happens over a major policy debate and in that case it was border security that americans overwhelmingly support. so you might need to look at those budget forecasts on the bidens spending at i don't believe that the inflation reduction act will actually reduce inflation. host: 2018 to 2019, the longest

shutdown in history. guest: bill clinton and newt gingrich, we were trying to take the country. what did that fight lead to? a balanced budget. host: were you a staffer in congress? guest: i was not, i was in the private sector rooting for balanced budget. guest: mount victory, ohio, good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. congressman, you have touched on some very good topics as far as the debt and how much destruction that's going to do to our country. i'm also very concerned about china's role in taking over so much of our agriculture and farmland, processing plants and commercial buildings. personally i think that they are totally up to no good. could you discuss if anything is being done on controlling china

with so much ownership in america? thank you. guest: steve, thanks. that's a good question. i get a lot of russians like that from my constituents. first, two congress ago we change the review process of foreign investment in the united states. intellectual property, incorporation, and in business generally, we have been much more strict about intellectual property theft and defense, particularly strategic defense areas. he mentioned farmland. it's principally a state issue and a state law issue. but we also put on the appropriations committee a process last year a measure where we would do extra scrutiny of foreign land purchases from china around military bases or industrial sites. i would say that land policies

typically done in the state, we are definitely scrutinizing foreign investment in the u.s. as it relates intellectual poverty theft. particularly china. the final common is that as we move to reassure jobs in the united you will get a lot of scrutiny about that business connection with the chinese because of that. host: last caller, bernie, kentucky. good morning. caller: good morning. i'm sorry. you touched on the president and former president trump, you said you would not. i'm in total agreement. in fact, i had two names for you. if you would like to touch on that.

don bacon, and from south carolina, nancy. have you considered putting your hat in the ring for something like that? guest: thank you. i appreciate that. this is an example of what i was saying. i think we have a deep bench in the republican party. don bacon is from omaha. he is an air force general. he is a terrific person. nancy from south carolina has a great story. she was the first woman to graduate from the citadel. i think one of her first jobs was at waffle house. it's one of my fear places to eat breakfast when i'm not on washington journal. i think it is time in our country for generational change in our parties, and it feels a lot like the late 1970's and 1980's to me where the parties are looking for new leadership. host: we'll see what happens.

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independence. (202) 748-8003 four tax. you probably saw the story yesterday. it was all over social media. president biden called out a late lawmaker. they called out a recently deceased congresswoman yesterday while he was at a conference combating hunger, attempting to acknowledge her from the stage, and apparently forgetting that she had regionally passed away. jackie, jackie are you there? he referred to a republican from indiana who died in a car crash in early august. here is that moment, yesterday. >> president nixon convened the conference on hunger and health. that single conference with laws that inspired a transformational change that has helped millions of americans with their lives

for generations. with advances in research in medicine, it has taught us so much more about nutrition and health. today, i'm convening a conference again because i believe we can use these advances to do even more to make america stronger and healthier. so me of you know so much about this and are committed. i want to thank all of you here for including bipartisan elected officials such as senator braun, senator booker, representative -- where is jackie? i thought she was going to be here. help make this a reality. host: president biden at a conference. here's the headline from the washington times. it noted the aftermath of the reading room, saying it became chaotic after the expiration on biden's gaffe yesterday. this is a white house press secretary.

>> what happened? the president looked around the room for an audience member, member of congress who passed away last month, and an indication she might be in the room. >> the president come as you know, you are watching, a very important event on food insecurity, the president was naming that congressional champions on this issue, and she was acknowledged for her incredible work. he had already planned to welcome the congresswoman's family to the white house on friday, and there will be a bill signing in her honor this coming friday, and of course, she was on his mind. she was top of mind for the president. he looks forward to discussing her remarkable legacy of public service with them when he sees her family this coming friday. >> he said where is she smart she must not be here. >> i just explained. she was on top of mind.

what we were able to witness today, and what the president was able to lift up at this conference at this event, was how her focus on wanting to deal with and combat food insecurity in america. this is something he was lifting up and honoring. again, he knows that he is going to see your family this coming friday, and there is a bill signing that is going to happen in renaming a clinic in indiana after the late congresswoman, and he knows that he is going to see her family, and she was on the top of his mind. host: that from the white house briefing room yesterday. taking your calls. it is an open forum with tape public policy and any issue. this is your time. sherry, oakland, california, democrat. good morning. caller: thank you for this opportunity. the last time i called, i saw

president barack obama at the helm. he did a fine job. this is more of a simple thought here. some of the callers. i would like to highlight that c-span should probably do a segment on the donor states here. in the golden state, we are a donor state. a lot of republicans in congress me not be aware of what that is. i'm tired of them criticizing our state to that degree. the last thing, and i've a whole list of things here, but i will only highlight this last one. thank you for giving me this opportunity. with respect to trump, there were so many people that were hating on trump, and it was a moral issue here.

he was an adulterer. he was running around with a lot of women, and he fathered a child while he was still married to his first wife. he was parading with marla maples, if i was not mistaken, correct me if i am. that is one that i am standing on in my truth with things i've highlighted here. and he started this hatred. trump did. with president obama, he started terrific legal affiant -- he started to ridicule a fine man. regardless of what party you are affiliated with, if we were knowing that we are all a child of god, we were not have this issue today. i thank you. and i think c-span. thank you for taking consideration on giving kudos to some of these donor states out here. it helps to support the republican states. host: this is jonathan, a

republican in ohio. good morning. >> i am a republican. if donald trump is renominated, i will vote democrat. the republican party is a shameful party. it has allowed donald trump to be a liar. host: why are you still republican? caller: i am republican because i believe it, but donald trump has this for the party. now, we see why there is mar-a-lago. no other president is taking classified documents. with no former president. host: what do you still believe in in the republican party? caller: because of donald trump,

i don't believe them anymore. yes destroyed this party and our people are silent. host: this is jim in north carolina. caller: thank you for having me. it is hard for me to keep my cool sometimes when i hear republican rhetoric, so i will not use that and i will quote facts. here are the facts. the represent of talked about the fact that hello? host: i am listening. caller: represented hill talked about a stat that there will be between dollars added to the deficit every year. when the republican tax cut will say 40% to businesses, a permanent tax cut, instead of a temporary tax cut, given to the average joe, i took the

republican budget off of the white house website, and in section nine, there is a graph that talks about the fact that in order to pay for a tax cut, we have to go 10 years in a row with an average gdp increase of over 5%. it's only been done once in our history, and it was done in world war ii. there was a superheated artificial economy. before covid. in the first two fiscal years before covid, they very quietly trans -- transferred $1 trillion to cover the deficit because we are never going to achieve that goal, so representative hill was talking about a trillion dollar deficit through which republicans are responsible that is my comment. host: mary, lakewood, new jersey, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. first, i want to get to you. i want to do that after i hang

up. for four years, trump was president, and you facts checked almost every single day. how come you don't do this with biden? i want to know that it after i finish, please give me -- i'm 85 years old and i am a trump supporter, and i am not a nazi. i have 20 grandkids and great grandkids combined. have our boys and half are girls. it is a mixed family. mixed people. number one, on january 6, we are blaming trump for that. try george soros. for every event that trump had from day one, george soros had people in their messing up our -- his -- where everyone to call it. i can think of the word. i am so nervous. but that is george soros.

mark my words. he had something to do with that. as far as obama, the one they praise to high heaven, how about him with that -- obama. he was linked with that. he was friends with him for 20 years. reverend wright is another one, for 20 years, that was a radical. host: that is mary, this is george in missouri, democrat. good morning. caller: i was calling about class five -- classified material that this guy took to mar-a-lago. that is strictly against the law. it is noted. when i retired from a place, in missouri, here. what do you think would have happened that when i retire, i

got some documents, and i want to take them home, and maybe i can learn to make whatever this is, but the fbi, the cia, and everyone, they would have been at my front door the in a second, but this is pure ridiculous. this is classified material and it belongs to the united states. not to a crazy guy in mar-a-lago or florida or wherever he is from. i don't know where he is from. but that's all i want to say. the whole voice of washington, d.c.. it is listed as this. host: to the pine tree state, joe. independent. caller: thank you for taking my call. i just wanted [indiscernible] a long time ago, i heard that

you don't need an atomic bomb to destroy the american democracy. what you need is lawyers that are willing to lie. so, i just would like any comment on that fact, and we have guests who try to address that, but that is the truth. you've got filled dodge who perjured himself, and they cover themselves up. but you never hear about the 25 million guns missing from the inauguration. alani a try to blame her best friend in washington. then she disappeared and it was covered up. they want to do something he didn't want to go to jail for. he bailed out. they replaced him with a guy who was an environmental lawyer. there are differences and laws. that is all i'm going to say. lawyering. specialties. that's all i want to say, besides i ask every republican

that is running, what is the biggest lie you've had to tell for donald trump in the last five years? host: to tom in woodbridge, virginia. republican. good morning. caller: thank you. you are a national treasure and you do your best to screen calls for people who are republicans and democrats. but i've been listening for years and years, and it is so frustrating that so many democrats call in on the republican line and claim that they are not going to vote republican this year. i know that you try and weeded out a little bit, but what do they believe? it is all very clear, but that shows the difference in sort of like our interpretation of politics. i bet you will keep track, and there is a number out there, but there are not a whole lot of

republicans calling him claiming to be democrats. they are not going to vote democrat this year. host: i've been doing it for 10 years now, and it happens on both sides come but the vast majority of viewers do stick to the lines that are what they are. it makes the show work better when people do that because otherwise, we do have a little bit of that back and forth, but we just trust our viewers and ask that the call in on the proper lines. caller: i know you do your best, but it cracks me up. the main thing i wanted to say is i've been a republican my entire life, and i consider myself primarily a conservative because i think a lot of the values of the republican party have deteriorated, but i still vote republican because of the simple fact that i consider them the most conservative of the two parties.

i think people across the country, regardless of your party, you really need to be looking and be concerned about the state of the bureaucracy in washington dc. i don't believe in a deep state. it is really just a bureaucracy. it is just a -- employees of the fbi, dhs, etc.. it been there for decades, and then i call in the political hillbillies, and someone shows up from texas or ohio or whatever, and they are a rancher or a cattle farmer or they are a teacher or a policeman, in their local community, they become a congressman, but the bureaucrats really don't care about those people. they are supposed to listen to them because congress is supposed to govern the country, but bureaucrats know most of these people will be gone in a couple years, that's how they get away with basically ignoring them when they tell them they want and emailer whatever.

they just ignore the hillbillies because they know they will be gone in a few years. but as americans, i think we should all be very concerned because of our political stripe or moral convictions. we should all be very concerned about things like unlawful counterintelligence investigations that are being carried out for political purposes. we should all be concerned about this citizens in afghanistan, or for the political purposes. we should all be concerned about the fbi covering up the fact that there was a hunter biden laptop that was real because they didn't want to weigh in on the political outcome of the election because it was real, but in reality, they covered it up, and they opened a door for joe biden when they shouldn't have. host: we are running short on

time. i have one question. what would be the political purpose of leaving americans behind in afghanistan. caller: i work in the intelligence community, they work for the department of defense, and we specifically told the administration that you cannot just pack your bags and walk out of afghanistan. we literally told the administration that there will be americans left behind, and we need time to evacuate, and we can't fall back to bagram, and cut sling load and abandon afghanistan because we have thousands of people who are allies of -- and i briefed a congressman, and i told him that he -- he asked me, and i said what will the taliban do, and here's what they will do. they're going to do the same thing they did with the soviets.

they're going to stage a video event or a photo event so that they can claim they drove the niceties out of afghanistan, and then we end up with a plane flying out of afghanistan like we are fleeing the country that is being swarmed by afghans who are friends and allies in the country, and there clinging to the plane, trying to get out of the country. host: how long have you been working as a -- in an telogen's or the defense industry? caller: i've been in the army reserves since 1987. i am a cold war soldier. we went toe to toe until the russian empire collapsed. i served in afghanistan, and i worked as a dni and defense combating terrorism center and i worked with that counterterrorism center. i guess, my point i am trying to

make is, for everyone listening, we really need to be concerned about the direction of our country. i believe that we are in a cultural revolution in the united states. --. host: we have more callers waiting to chat. democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. i am a democrat. i've always voted democratic. with a working families party. i did not like trump, and i am happy that he was impeached. i am happy that the senate didn't go along, but, my main point is that i don't like to talk about throwing anyone in the political realm in jail. that is the grounds of our loss of civil liberties.

i think that democrats need to talk about the issue. we talk about the issue, rather than putting trump in jail, or how bad trump's and all that sort of stuff. if we talk about the issues, if we talk about income inequality, and having government jobs available for everyone, we don't have people standing on the interstate begging for money. as i say, i over, so if you have anything, let me know, but cut me out -- off the five over talk. host: this is john in syracuse. good morning. caller: good morning. good morning c-span listeners. you really gave that guy prior to this guy who just got off, a lot of latitude. that is good. people don't realize, c-span has

a platform that simplifies what america is made of. you let everyone come on, regardless of their skewed opinions, sometimes, i think. that is my personal opinion. you give them an opportunity to voice their opinion. i'm not going to go on, but i want to make a suggestion. i suggest that you guys create a platform where you guys do an hour of something with the constitution, starting from article one, and go through the whole constitution. not just one particular toe, but each show, and have two constitutional lawyers, one from the republican side one from the democrats i, explain what the constitution means. i'll give you example. i will get off then. the second amendment, a lot of people misconstrue what it means. what i understand and what i have read, is that you are not

giving americans the right to get a gun and rise up against the government. american should be able to get guns to support a rise up against a government. if you want to get a gun in the united states, i think what they should do is they should make you sign up to be a part of the government sponsored militia. that is what you have to do to get a gun. then, you are under certain obligations with that gun. everyone would be listed, they would be titled, and if something was to happen like what happened on january 6, we would have a sworn militia we could call upon to defend the government of the united states america and the constitution. with that, i will close. yes. that is a suggestion i made earlier. that would be a wise thing because a lot of people in america do not understand the

constitution and they rely on the supreme court to tell us what the constitution means. each individual in america should know for themselves with the constitution means, and we would be a lot better off in the country. doing a great job. host: we talk about the constitution quite a bit, and we have people from the constitution center who come on, but it is an interesting idea to go amendment by a minute. we will bring it up. thank you. last call on open forum. this is leanne from the beehive state, republican. good morning. caller: i'd like to comment on the first comment on donald trump and him being in adulterer. she needs to remember that clinton was also in adulterer, and he had sex in the oval office. john f. kennedy was also in adulterer. that doesn't mean they weren't good presidents, and that's all i've got to say. host: you think jfk and bill clinton were good residence, as

a republican? caller: i do. john f. kennedy was a beloved president, and i was just a little kid when he died. a lot of people love to jfk. he was in adulterer. he had sex with marilyn monroe, and who knows how many women. caller: leanne out of chesterfield utah. last caller. stick around. we will talk more -- we are about halfway through our program. up next, we will be joined by a democratic congressman out of the tar heel state, a senior member of budgets and appropriations committee. stick around. we will be right back.

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live, sunday at noon eastern on book tv on c-span two. >> washington journal continues. host: back at our desk. can you remember -- kirsten, why are we back here at another possible shut down the main? why does this seem to keep happening that we get to these crisis points? guest: it has become the new normal, and that is not good. everybody knows that, but not everybody quite understands what has gone into this. it is party polarization at the most basic level. the appropriations process, i have been on that committee most of my time in congress. there was a time that we were

members of an institution and our key power was the power of the purse. we got behind the appropriations bills and we have been obligated to start the new fiscal year. little of that is left. my partner and i still work very cooperatively at putting our bill together. it has passed the house months ago, but we bump up against the polarization between the parties. the republicans will not cooperate in passing these bills on the floor. in the senate, they get not down. it is a dreary pattern now. go into the fall with house bills passed or most of them. we negotiate out the differences

and hopefully, we have a bill where we stitch these together in december. if you do it by december, only three months late, we would consider that a success. i am not defending this, just trying to explain it. i think we need to get back to the point where we have normal political parties trying to work together, as we must in the system, dated our budget passed. host: what happens in the next 48 hours, it does not seem like we will have a shut down. guest: we will have a three month best buy -- three month respite. of course it is better than a shut down, but it is not good. i do not hold out a lot of

praise for continuing resolutions. they do not give you the benefit of appropriations bills, which often have a lot of material in them. not just the spending levels but the policy provisions that we have worked very hard on, that we want to have implemented. for example, in my bill this year, for the first time we are getting into the renovation, revitalization and preservation of mobile home communities. that is new and important, but if we do not have a regular appropriations bill, we will be -- we will never see it happen. every bill has something like that. there is every reason to get that passed in december. democrats -- host: democrats the number is (202) 748-8000.

republicans it is (202) 748-8001 . independent is (202) 748-8002. guest: the time comes when your career needs to come to an end. it is that simple. i do not have any major reasons apart from just having a sense that i am in my early 80's and i have had decades of satisfying service. that been some bumps in the road , but i am very grateful. i could have never dreamed that i would be in the house of representatives doing these things for so long. host: any regrets? guest: i do look at the institution, the things that we were talking about, the

increased polarization -- it polarization. it is a big word but an important word because i think the republican party has gone off the rails in the sense of having an extreme faction that nominates the party that makes it very hard to come together. i see that. when you have polarized parties at each other's throats competitively, you will have a more centralized institution that will devalue the committees and make it harder for individuals to have an impact. i see a members who care more about their social media audience and their own individual stands than they do about what it means to perform as an institution. i think morality, when you say what is expected me -- of me, i do not think it is to perform for social media or to proclaim

myself more righteous. i think irresponsibility responsibility is to help the institution perform and do its job. i have seen some deterioration of that. i would rate that as a disappointment, although i have managed to find ways to be reasonably affected in that context. host: what is the loan separation act? guest: i have to be a piece is that we are getting done in the long stretch. we have had a bill for years, trying to make sure that the victims of water contamination in camp lejeune, for decades, that they have their day in court and that they are able to get compensation for the great harm that they and their families suffered. host: in your district?

guest: it is not in my district, but it is in my state. we have worked on this. the second piece is the loan consolidation act. briefly, this is a bill that -- a constituent comes in and you devise a fix. we did that, but it was eight years ago and it should have gone through a lot more easy than it did. this involves the loans that recalled joint consolidation loans. in a couple would be jointly responsible for the loans that each brought -- each partner brought to the marriage. you do not have to think about that long. the couples split and what happens to the joint responsibility? it did not work very well. thousands of people were stuck

with these loans. many of them have had different situations and it just is not fair. let's say that partner a went to a private university and added a lot of debt burden to the marriage. partner b went to a community college. let's say that partner one abscond. partner b has to assume responsibility for the entire debt. that is not fair and it is a huge hardship. it can result in credit scores being downgraded and someone. we have tried for years to fix this. we fixed it. we got the senate to agree to this on a bipartisan basis. rubio helped. but our democratic colleagues in

the house would not go along with something like this. we had some republican votes in the end. so we had to take it to the floor. as a result, we publicized this issue for sure and we did not get it done. they can now be severed and people can have a manageable situation to deal with their debt. host: this is dave in cincinnati, democrat. go on. caller: [indiscernible] i have a democrat for years. can you talk about some of the legislation that you are most proud of, especially your work with the public? guest: sure.

i think about categories of legislation. some of the things that i have done as part of the team, i am very proud of what we have done as a team, but i am also proud of the bipartisan support and the things that i have worked on. i take on appropriation projects. the biggest one has been the nine year effort to fund the building of the environmental action agency lab. the cpa's main national lab took major effort and i and very proud of that. there is a similar project where we dealt a new national guard headquarters for the state in raleigh. host: and that is your district. guest: it is.

i have taken those on as projects. i have made it a point for the passenger rail accounts and also the housing for disabled. i put a good deal of money into those programs because i want to bring them back to life. i think they had huge potential. we learned that my district has benefited from some of those efforts. we are on our way to consolidating the southeast rail corridor from raleigh to richmond. we have been able to do that, and i announced on monday a $40 million enable. it is a major.

those are very satisfying things. i would also mention the house democracy partnership. it builds on work we did in eastern europe when i was first a member, but the idea is to engage with parliament and engaging countries, so that effort lapsed in the 1990's. actually, the speaker was able to get it going again about 17 to 18 years ago and we have worked in a couple developing countries. it is a matter of the u.s. house extending. we got plenty of flaws, but we engage with our parliamentary counterparts. we hope to build capacity. we have done that in central

europe and north macedonia, north of moldova, ukraine. also, kenya, indonesia, peru, a lot of countries around the world, diverse countries -- what ties them together is an aspiration to develop democratic parliaments. host: out of apex, north carolina. rose is a republican. caller: good morning. will you sign a bill that will put a moratorium? i would like to know the name of all the politicians that allow these functions to be moved to china with the help of the pentagon. i hope that rand paul holds all of them accountable after

millions of people died to eugenics experiments. the human genome project is going on. would you sign a bill that -- after all, playing god is always a very bad idea. guest: i hardly know how to respond to this. i would be happy to know what kind of sources they are drying off of. i do not -- drawing off of.

caller: from my perspective, there seems to be a major ignorance in america when you talk to people about how the government operates, what its responsibilities are. do you think that the lack of that contributes to people looking at politicians and celebrities and solutions for all of our problems on both sides of the aisle? guest: i think the short answer is yes. there is a tendency to look at politicians as jewels and to not understand how we need to make our institutions function. we need to take responsibility for publicizing. i do not know how we could

possibly go back to the old days were members were seen but not heard around here. that is not going to happen, but i do think that members need to come here with some appreciation of the institution and how it performs. it is not just about then using this as a platform. there needs to be a concern for the institution and a willingness to interpret that, to help people understand what you have to fight for, and that it might be necessary to wait. not everything can go your way. there has to be compromise. we often say, you compromise or cooperate way you can and you fight where you must. that is true, but the trick is

to figure out which is which. this gets to your question about the institution. we are going to have different parties in charge. that simply requires that at some point, the parties will come together. when one party has become an insurgent outlay and they are not ready to cooperate or will cooperate only under extreme duress, than the whole system will be dysfunctional. host: this network has fought for a long time for cameras in the supreme court. we found out yesterday that the court will keep with its live coverage. they announced that for the upcoming term.

when it comes to cameras, you have been on capitol hill almost as long as c-span has been around. do you think that cameras have been a good thing for this institution? guest: cameron thing. i cannot sort this out anymore neatly than that. i think there have been good effects. people certainly watch the proceedings and have more knowledge of what is going on. programs like this -- i think c-span is great and i am proud to have it -- glance i have it, but i think that people perform for the cameras, when the cameras are there. the effect has sometimes been a contribution to the deterioration of committee work, where markups are being televised and they become

performances more than work sessions. and the public does see what is going on. but they do not really develop a sympathetic understanding of the institution. they can sometimes be more judgmental. that is what they conclude from what they see. some of the polls are more critical. but i think we are not going to turn the clock back. i do believe televised proceedings are here to stay. i do not necessarily think it would be a good idea for the supreme court -- i think they need to think long and hard about bringing cameras into court proceedings. court proceedings are -- by

definition they are the most difficult and sensitive issues that our country faces. you just have to waive the desire for transparency, which of course, there needs to be a degree of transparent, but you need to weigh that against being candid and honest. there are agonizing discussions among the judges that would perhaps be compromised. host: the live audio coverage, you can stream it online. guest: i guess so. i do not have a magic answer for this. i think there is a trade-off in values. it is not all good. it contributes to the divisions that we have and the lack of an

institutional sense of where people are performing. do not want the courts to go completely down the same path. host: charles. langford democrats, go ahead. caller: good morning. i was calling to figure out when they were going to pass the exemption provision to do away with that for teachers, firefighters are different ones who have several jobs. what are they going to do with that 15 extension provision? guest: that is the question from federal employees, and other public employees, who are subject to a category of provisions, which i will describe as trading off one

benefit for another. in other words, you have earned a pension and you and your partner have learned -- earned pensions or various kinds of benefits. you discount one against the other so that they do not get a windfall of benefits. that is an acceptable definition and we have dealt with this to some degree. we dealt with provisions among seriously injured veterans. there are efforts in every congress. i tend to be sympathetic to these bills because people have earned these benefits. they may have gotten a pension. they may have earned some sort of medical benefit.

there is no reason that is obvious to me why they should be discounted. these are not overly generous. i am sympathetic to that. i do not think in the days remaining between here and the end of congress that we will take this on in a comprehensive way. you sometimes find these supervision like we did with the disabled veterans. find them at the end of the session bills. we will see what we can do about that. host: republican from san jose. good morning. caller: i would like to get your response to the camp lejeune project. i have seen it advertised on tv and i have seen the phone number for the lawyers to call. i have seen listings through the

diseases and the problems associated with the episode. my concern is, the cutoff date is about 1987. that was 35 years ago. take for instance one of the issues, which is miscarriage. how can you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your miscarriage was she needed to something that happened at the camp. it is a crying shame that this ever happened.

it should not have been done. i think that we will get a tremendous amount of people that want compensation from the government, for which it cannot -- beyond doubt be established that they were responsible. guest: i cannot tell you that that will never happen. i can tell you that a lot of people that were damaged are just -- there are all kinds of cancers and diseases that have plagued people at the time and later in life. many people did not get compensation for what they had to undergo. this is a long overdue piece of justice, as far as i am concerned.

i will not let my concern make me give up the effort to a vast majority of people who deserve their day in court, ok? yes, lawyers will advertise. they legally do that, but these cases will be decided in a legal setting. there will be proof required and justice will be done. caller: yes, i wanted to start talking about social security. with this big increase, we are

going to be getting, i want to make a couple suggestions. social security was not meant for millionaires. the affluent people get this money. i am a 91-year-old senior. for you to pass legislation, if i receive social security increase this year, i will be able to deduct that from my income tax, even though i did not itemize. it has to be taken out. host: let me stop you there. let's let the congressman answer. guest: the social

-- the day is approaching. i do not believe for a moment we will let those benefits last or even that we will allow the schedule of increases to go into effect. the tax increase of social security is an issue and i favor more wealthy people having their social security been -- benefits taxed. that was done under the compromise of the reagan administration and it has served us fiscally. it requires fiscal prudence over also we are not continuing -- we can't continue forever to borrow from the social security funds to finance the general government but you will -- you are raising our huge set of issues that we need to keep a

focus on and i took note of your success -- suggestion of deducting the increase. we will have to continue and broaden this debate and the same the plot -- applies to some degree of -- host: 625 videos in the c-span archive, including several for this program during the 17 times on this program -- terms in congress. phone lines for democrats, republicans, and independents are on your screen. go ahead and call right now and we will be right back.

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host: an hour left in the program and the house coming in at 10 a.m. easter and we will take you there for covered sometime between now and then for the open form and any public party -- policy issue or political issue, you can call in. as you are calling in, we want to take you down to florida with governor ron desantis. he started his press conference this morning talking about hurricane ian. >> -- every bit of them and we will be there until all the paths are completed. kevin, do you want to get an update? >> thank you governor and thank you first lady for your leadership across the state. obviously, as tropical storm ian moves across central florida this morning, we have damaging winds and extreme rainfall

expected throughout the northeast florida and central florida area. i will emphasize that the storm poses a major threat to the state, including central florida right now and northeast florida. orange county fire rescue is conducting nine area search responses for rising area in the central florida area. the division has received more than 1500 resources -- resource requests from our local impacted partners and we -- that we have -- and we are in the process of building 1300. there are 300 plus truckloads of food and water that have been loaded out and they are little -- mobilizing to go to the southwest border area down. in addition to the issues with cell phones, we are deploying cell phone towers.

over 100 assets in that arena alone. we want to reinforce that we appreciate the fact that we have received over 15,000 inputs to our shelter in place system. we want to encourage you, if you are sheltering in ways are you know someone who has or -- and you know they need to to be checked on, register that individual or yourself at floridadisaster.org/report. we have made that more specific. yesterday, it was info but now we made it specific. floridadisaster.org/report to complete the survey. that is not a replacement for 911. if you are in a emergency

situation, call 911. our logistical staging areas in central florida have all the additional resources we have to respond. we have tarps and medical supplies if needed in those warehouses. we want to make sure all the available resources can get to the residence --residents as quickly as possible. we are starting the 70 hour clock and we search first and we secure and stabilize. that is the focus of the team over the next 72 hours. that is, secure and stabilize. host: you are listening to kevin guthrie, the division director of the florida emergency management. that is depressed -- the press

conference happening in florida in the wake of the hurricane landing yesterday. it was a category four hurricane. one of the strongest hurricanes that hit florida and downgraded to a tropical storm this morning and moved a cost -- across states on the east coast of florida and expected to make the turn to the north and northwest. we will start in florida and a the in tallahassee -- in the capital in tallahassee. caller: how are you today. host: i am well. caller: i know you have two segments, open form means you can -- forum means you can speak on everything and i was wondering for the last two years, i have seen a lot go on taking place politically, economically and the condition -- the physical condition of our

country and the rest of the world but i was wondering, back in high school, we were told that there was something called the ozone layer that covered the earth. it protected our planet from cosmic and gammaray's -- which can cause damage. in world war ii, we did nuclear testing above ground with nuclear weapons and then we get underground testing. -- did underground testing. with all the testing in the 60's, not only the russians and other people, could that have stripped or cost damage to the ozone layer that these gammaray's are coming in and causing problems we are having, not just the geographical problems but the pandemic problems because the water has been tainted. it could be the underground

testing they have caused -- may have caused damage to the water levels. i am not an extremist or a person trying to find fault. could this be the reason that things are going on with the fires that took place in western mississippi? host: this is hannah in rhode island. democrat. caller: how are you? host: i am doing well, go ahead. caller: i was thinking about the way people use social media to get their information and the way that politicians have started using it. people see an article or a post on facebook and they take it as absolute truth. i am a nebraskan natively and one of my own representatives took a fake story about litter

box base -- litter boxes in school as truth and it was -- my own politicians fall for these, i don't want to say fake news but the stories that are unverified. in an -- a digital era where we have more platforms that are managed by private companies and we have such free speech in our country and that is something that made us american, i want to urge my fellow citizens to be more diligent in the way that they seek out their news and information. host: hannah in rhode island. any public policy or political issue you want to talk about, go ahead and call in. we will take this over foreign -- forum until the house comes in.

we want to give you an update on what is happening with the appropriations process and the government funding deadline. we are joined by -- an editor. when are we expecting final votes on this continuing resolution? guest: they are hoping it will be as soon as today if everything goes right but there is no guarantee of that. as of last night, there was no timing agreement in the senate that the two party -- party's needed to reach to speed things along. this is about preventing the partial government shutdown on friday night when all the current government funding goes out. we go through this at the end of every september because they can't get things passed in time. it has been over 25 years since

appropriations have been passed on time. the records have been terrible. this is a bipartisan problem where they don't pass appropriations anytime and we end up with so-called continuing resolutions which extend government funding for a few weeks or months to buy them more time until a final spending package is put together. in base -- and this measure to help the past maybe today will extend government funding until mid december and they think they will be able to pass the final spending package for this fiscal year but there is no guarantee. i hope to get cards aligned and they can get a -- an agreement. it can spread into tomorrow. host: is anyone you are talking

to at this point worried about going past the deadline? guest: it is possible but i don't think so gone -- i don't think so. everyone seemed pretty month -- pretty much optimistic and that goes to both parties. they want to get it done and no one wants to see a government shutdown particularly in the weeks leading up to the midterm elections and it doesn't make anyone look good if that happens and there is nothing really controversial for that in the bill. it extends government funding and the hangup on this bill was this provision that was meant to a ph -- appease joe manchin to speed up the federal permits for energy projects and that was the payoff they gave to mention as part of his support last month for the democratic inflation

reduction act. to get matching's -- joe manchin's support of that, they agreed to give him a vote this month. that was in this stopgap spending bill but that was -- there was no -- not enough support on both sides so they agreed this tuesday to strip it out of the bill and by stripping it out of the bill, that removed the major obstacle to get this path and now it is a question of crossing the t's and dotting the eyes --i's and appeasing the senators. i think they will get there and they seem optimistic. they are shooting for today and if they can get it to the senate today, and has to go to the house of the house could take it

up late tonight and ram it through. it is easier to get stuff through to the house and it could ram it through tonight. host: the latest number i have seen and correct me, $18.8 billion included in this continuing resolution for fema disaster relief fund. is there any thought that it will be more than that for the number could change here? -- or the number could change here? guest: i don't think it will change here. by extending government funding, and provides more funding for the disaster relief fund and i think it is about 18 billion that they end up with. bear is over 13 billion sitting there available now.

they will be flush with cash here that should cover these emergencies like the horrors we are seeing in florida. we had a hurricane in puerto rico and flooding in kentucky. all of these things -- there should be enough money for them in this but lawmakers say if there is not, they haven't done all the damage assessments and if they need one, they will pick a place to get one -- more but it won't be part of this bill. host: what happens, december -- come december and how much more likely congress and get its work done then then now --than now? guest: there is a push to get it done by the end of the year because you have a do congress

coming in january and they want to start with a clean slate stop there are some republicans who don't want to see a deal done in december because they are calculating if we just -- if the elections go our way and we can rewrite these bills to our liking so it makes sense for us to push a delay and not happy final spending -- have a final spending vote in december. i have a feeling certainly all democrats and a good chunk of republicans who are appropriators want to finish this up this year and you have leaders of the senate appropriations committee retiring at the end of this congress and they want to finished this bill and not leave work unfinished as they leave office. host: you can follow him on

twitter. 40 minutes before the house comes in and it is are open for >> -- the open forum. franklin come upper morrow, maryland. --, up her marlboro maryland -- upper marlboro, maryland. caller: we have representatives in office that -- people in my district don't want it. the people in my district could be me and my wife or my family and that doesn't make any sense that we allow our politicians to do that. host: franklin, how would you li ke it to work?

caller: i think that should be automatic. if you are voting yes or no or something that could financially benefit you, you shall be recuse automatically and you should not be a part of the boat and the numbers should change. host: this is brad, international call in minnesota, republican. caller: i haven't talked to you for a while because today is an information -- an interesting conversation. i tried my darndest to get on when the young lady -- the lady was talking about gain of function and i could just see him getting -- you can see the body language that he did not like that question and he says, i can answer that and he is telling neil out there is no

proof and do what i want -- what i want to say to you is that i wish you had said to him, you think it came from a wet market? that virus is a gillette equally -- genetically modified by man but i another thing i wish you could ask him is why haven't we haven't -- why haven't we looked into where it came from. it is for them to say it. when you get these politicians -- it is one thing to have someone from a opinion -- it is cool to have people on their giving opinions but when someone is on there that is representing government, you should not let them off the hook. that is all i wanted to say. i am glad to get back on and talk with you and i enjoyed listening.

that is all i have to say. host: thanks for the suggestion. sharon in jackson, mississippi. caller: i am calling -- august 16, 2022 in mississippi today, and says that governor take weeks --tate -- he is recently stating that jackson's water should be privatized. he is in line with governor bryan's and -- bryant and they are graduates of the same school the volleyball -- where the volleyball facility was built and farr was given money for a speaking engagement which he didn't do.

if you will deny mississippi funding for the water and the governor bryan and -- even though the legislator has approved funding, it was voted down by the condition of people which was the governor and the lieutenant governor, and governor bryan's --bryant. jackson has been sabotaged. it could be fixed because the people prevented. -- prevented it. host: how has it impacted you? caller: there out -- the water is filthy and there was a report from the environmental working group with -- which states that we have nine contaminants that exceeds their level in addition to 25 other contaminates and we know that the water is filled with contaminants because the state was all right -- always

notified it once the epa came in. they were -- they are concerned about abortion issues and refused to help out with water for the children. host: the legislative -- appropriations bill to keep the government funded from what we understand, $20 million in that bill to help jackson, mississippi with its water system proposed by mississippi senators and members of congress are. that could be included. this is joseph out of leonard town, maryland. caller: thank you for your work and it is well appreciated and you help with the world. a sharp job you did but the point of my call is i would like to say three things. our general was murdered in southwest d.c. saturday,

december 21. host: what did you say? caller: i gentlemen. -- a gentlemen. he was feeding people. at the boxing gym and his name is buddy harrison. host: i heard the story on local radio. caller: he is a family friend but my brothers grew up with him and i never mess with the guys but i heard of him but i want to say thank you but he got killed on the same day in history that king shaka killed. -- was killed. he was a god and this man was 62 years old.

we have a lot of problems and everyone is upset and everyone wants to save the world and i am there with them and the biggest think we need to do. i have my notepad here. host: i will point to viewers to the wto p story. that is one of the local news stations in washington. a beloved busking -- boxing coach here murdered. his writers coming out to remember him and talk about him being a mentor and a friend to them, wtop.com. sylvia in -- republican. caller: my heart goes out to everyone in florida.

i was with hurricane donna when it was -- i was younger and i haven't gotten over storms yet but i have people in tampa and port st. lucie and my heart goes out to everyone. i like ron desantis but i wish she would have a mandatory -- taking people out, evacuation. he doesn't believe in anything mandatory basks but it -- like masks but it was really needed. host: there were evacuations for the storm. caller: was it mandatory? host: yes. caller: i am sorry for the ones who didn't get out and thank you for telling me that. host: david in illinois. democrat. are you with us? jim in kansas. independent. caller: thanks for having me on.

i was reflecting back on what someone said earlier about social media and it has become a cancer in communications. i listened to a lot of callers come in and they have interesting opinions and a lot of them are based in reality. i am encouraging people to think for yourself. i was a formal -- former republican. i will give you three examples. for the second amendment, there are people rallying about the second amendment and gun rights. if you ask many second amendment opponents, they cannot recite the second amendment. it is one sentence. i will tell you about inflation. it is easy to pin inflation on a person or president when it is a negative problem but if you

understand economics, it is an money supply increases, 27 percent in two years and trillions of dollars, much of which under the trump administration. it is a problem of both parties. if you pump so much money into the system, you will have a problem. the third thing is -- the fed policy. the third thing is the afghanistan withdrawal. i know president biden -- [indiscernible] -- the care of afghanistan and try to withdraw. when i talk to a friend of mine who was commenting about it, i said what about the -- accords. you don't see to remember that president trump gave afghanistan back to the taliban and excluded the afghan government and the

18th minutes after that, -- months after that, -- that is how it sounds within a week. i encourage people to think for themselves and think about these issues that they have to vote on in more death --depth and educate themselves to the real problems. host: thank you jim in kansas. it is 9:30 on the east coast. i have our -- it is a half-hour for our program today. the house is in at 10 a.m. eastern and also at 10 easter, the senate judiciary committee holding a hearing with the director of the federal bureau of prison to testify an oversight of the bureau and you can watch that on c-span3 and you can watch on c-span.org and

on our free c-span now video app. 10 a.m. eastern. we are expecting the house and senate in today. c-span and c-span2 is where you can go for coverage. this is david in albuquerque, new mexico. democrat. caller: something about a lady earlier who said, what is happening in florida, it is because of ron desantis. it says that god is punishing him and that is why it is happening. i am not an atheist or a bible pusher. if she put -- truly believes that, she will have a problem because a god -- doesn't care about people who are good people and better than myself and her put together and god is

punishing the whole state and tens of thousands -- hundreds of thousands -- i can't imagine just to punish desantis? that lady needs to rethink how she is pushing stuff. he -- she is making god seem like he is a punk. she is ignorant on how she is saying that. host: this is robert down in raleigh, north carolina. republican. caller: i am calling on the republican line but i would like to say that i've tried to vote my conscience, whether it is republican or democrat or independent and i -- love c-span and i tried to be of good christian and try to love everyone the best i can.

i want to say i know public speaking is hard. a lot of people call in. i want to say that when you call in, let's not be so hyperventilating. i know that you care about people and respect people but i -- my point is about abortion. i went to vote democrat but it is hard. women have a right to choose their bodies and i don't support abortion only in the case of rape or incest. you have choices. after someone has been conceived, please don't take that life. you want to live so let a child live. i have been diagnosed with cancer and i want to live. let's get -- give everyone a

chance. i love every woman and i want them to have a choice but think about that choice before you conceive. god bless you. host: dennis in oklahoma, independent. caller: oh -- hypo and i think we should take one morning and turned the whole show to the queue and nonbelievers and conspiracy there is an immerse ourselves in the craziness that has become the republican party. and you might even throw in the white supremacist and the neofascists and the ku klux klan us --klanners. host: what would you get from that? caller: we need to hear just how crazy please trump supporters --

these trumps -- trump supporters and the qanon peter -- people, which is a huge part of the provoking party, just how crazy they are. let's immerse ourselves in the idiocy that has become the republican party. host: this is someone in missouri. democrat. good morning. caller: i am not a fan on how the supreme court undid roe v. wade. four back to the states, but the people in the states vote on it. it should be on the ballot this november. we have some states going back to the 1800s with their governing ideology. i believe that there. thank you. host: rick, independent. good morning. caller: whatsapp -- what is up.

i am concerned about the sickness and state of america. i have three children and one is little -- host: let's go to liz in crystal lake. caller: no money -- good morning and i am calling to comment on the caller who mentioned something about god and abortion. as a woman who is adopted, i want to say i would like to have rights on my body. i understand god in everything -- and everything and i know that i would not have an opportunity if it wasn't for adoption. i wish that my mom had the knowledge about abortion so she would not go through the things that she does. she struggles with a lot of mental health but she did not

realize that she had options and if she had known that she had options and had the options that were available with roe v. wade, she would have been able to have peace and a length -- a life and her life his valid -- is valid. every life is valid and people should have a right to decide. host: this is jamie, waukesha, wisconsin. caller: i. --hi. i am calling about the last color that was talking about the mega republicans. --maga republicans. it is time to get under -- over trump. it is time to stop thinking that all republicans are crazy. that gentleman is grazing. host: do you think trump will

run for president again? caller: i don't know. i recommend he did a amazing job and he got our country back on track. i don't know at this point and i don't know where this country is going right now. it sucks. host: say he got the country back on track. what is the hesitancy? caller: i don't know -- with the way president biden is hat -- acting and he is turning president -- people's minds like the joma that just talked, i don't know if everything will explode and everyone will have hate in their heart. it needs to stop. we all need to work together. host: you think if donald trump

doesn't run again, that will go toward stopping the hate in this country? caller: i don't think so. i don't know what is happening here. everyone is so against each other and it is because biden is turning everyone against each other because he has trump and the maga --he has the mega -- you know what i am saying. host: is there someone out there that you think could bring the country together? is there someone that can be the uniting figure? caller: i think if president trump and ron desantis works together, i think this country can come back together and the people who don't want to be

together can go be away from us. you know what i mean? host: that is jamie in wisconsin. this is rob out of chicago, democrat. caller: good morning. this continence is concerning abortion -- comment is concerning abortion. i don't understand how any man could tell a woman that she has to carry a baby to term. what if they go to the doctor and she -- they tell her she has -- the lady uses word -- a monster. what if you want to -- terminate -- what if you want to terminate the pregnancy? -- he wants to terminate the pregnancy? host: this is -- good morning. caller: hello?

host: gary. caller: the -- hello? host: the problem might be you. democrat. good morning. caller: what concerns me now is the environmental problem in florida. it is a 500 year flood. if people don't understand the problems that are happening now in the world, it is unbelievable and it is nice to see joe biden and desantis on the same page. the world is looking on the same situation where this storm doesn't care if you are a communist or a capitalist. it went right through puerto rico and cuba and one of our states. things are getting worse and we better get our act together as a common goal to saving the planet.

host: i'm page of the tampa bay times this morning -- front page of the tampa bay times this morning. historic theory is how they inscribed hurricane ian -- described hurricane ian. independent. good morning. caller: i want to talk what is actually separating americans. the first thing is people are claiming to be -- advocating for things that -- it is the opposite of what they read --mea n. like abortions. you can't vote 61 times to take health care away from people and claim to be pro-life. those women who are pregnant need insurance. this is what is separating us

because people are playing tricks with the media. another thing -- ssn united. it is the opposite of what it is supposed to me. another one, the right to work law in america. any company can fire you for any reason. we created inflation after the pandemic. people went crazy traveling, doing everything, using all the commodities, and when you turn it around and blame it on the presidents, we did it and we are still doing it. i appreciate you allowing you need to talk -- you along be to talk and i hope all of us will -- say what we mean. everything -- if you are a

republican, they say the opposite of what they mean. host: that as robert's in alabama -- is robert's in alabama. any political issues you want to talk about, he calling in. -- keep calling in as we show you this piece from usa today. playing with history is the hello -- headline. the singer played a 200 year old foods made from -- for president james madison. the picture thereof lizzo practicing with the flute. the library of congress tweeting out the video of that performance. >> they are going to show you -- >> oh my gosh. >> this is the flute --

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♪ [applause] host: that is the musician lizzo in the video the library of congress put out this week and here is a photo from that seen in the beautiful room in the library of congress at the jefferson building. lizzo plane that flute there. if you haven't been to washington -- it is one of the most beautiful rooms in washington. back to your phone calls. this is eugene in florida -- eugena in florida. how are you doing in -- with hurricane ian? caller: we got very little

effects in the tampa bay area. i fear -- feel terrible what the folks in fort myers -- and i am registered with democrat. you can't vote in the primaries if you are registered as an independent and i wanted to let people know that we here in florida are fine. en --ian was a bad storm and it was supposed to hit the tampa bay area direct but it did not. i think we got about an inch of rain. host: when do you think we will get back home -- you will get back home? guest: today. i checked with neighbors who were looking out for my prunes and they said they only got about an inch of rain in

oldsmar. tampa got about three inches. host: eugena, thanks for the talk. -- talking about the damage and the efforts of recovery and governor ron desantis speaking about the historic impact of the storm. >> if you look into central florida, you are looking at a potential major flooding in orange and seminole counties. st. john's river potentially into northeast florida and jacksonville and the amount of water that has been rising and will likely rise even as the storm is passing is a 500 year flood event and i know several county has done evacuations and i know they have opened soldiers -- shelters but there will be a lot of images on the destruction

that was done and we have massive assets there but their storm has -- is having broader impacts across the state and the flooding you will see, hundreds of miles from where the land fall will -- set records and that will be a thing that will need to be responded to. host: back to your phone calls. 10 minutes before the house comes in. this is dave in las vegas. caller: when trump tried to overthrow the united states government and get people killed, and his attorney general doesn't do anything about it, you have no law. when you have people trying to charge the police officers and trying to take their guns and they don't do anything about it and they let people do that in the cops are the guilty one -- you have no law.

and to the attorney general asked -- an arrest donald trump which he should do. you will never have no law. host: we will go to claudia in north carolina. good morning. caller: good morning. i wanted to say that i voted for trump. i think he did a lot for this country. a lot of people wanted to be informed and he did the abraham accords. we didn't have any controversy or war for four years. he did opportunity zones and funded black colleges. he did a lot for america. it is very unfortunate for those who bless who voted for him -- also bus who voted for him that january 6 at -- happened and it

took away the satisfaction and respect of having voted for him. the last thing i want to say and i have been thinking of for some time, as it is very sad to me how divided this country is even within families that we can talk about issues as republicans or democrats. i would like to see you all have a phone line just for americans so we don't have to continue to be divided by the lens of a political party because when it comes down to it, we are all americans. there are a lot of things we agree on and if we could get to the point where we stop seeing everything so strongly as republican or democrat, just

talk about america and what is good for america and i appreciate your time. host: i appreciate the call. this is johnny in south carolina. democrat. caller: how are you doing today? host: doing all right. caller: if you put money in the savings account, you get .03. if you put -- no one talks about this. it is not right. the other thing is the price of gasoline and during the trump administration, the russians and the saudi arabians decided that they will keep the price low. it was artificially low to keep us out of business as far as fracking was concerned, which lowered everything in the pipeline coming down. it would take two years to complete -- that would not be

the process to oil. it can't be processed to that. it was put in place to executive order and taken out of place by executive order. no one talks about this. people have opinions but don't look into the facts. host: johnny in south carolina. we mentioned this story earlier. the supreme court yesterday, which has been close to the public since the beginning, announced that the court would reopen when the justices returned to the bench, masking in the courtroom for oral arguments will be optional. the court will retain live audio coverage. -- it continued to provide an audio feed when the justices returned last fall to hear arguments before a few dozen law clerks, journalists and others

in a otherwise empty courtroom. that is the story. the statement yesterday from c-span about that announcement. the statement reading, as the court -- the supreme court applies the decision to provide an live audio feed to the media and public is an important step in transparency an -- an -- and an opportunity -- milli-40% of responses -- respondents said that listening to the audio feed gives a more positive food of the -- view of the court and c-span will continue providing audio feeds. tiffany in wet taxi --wa

tchahaxie, texas. it i get -- that right -- --did i get that right? caller: that is correct. biden is not dividing the world. he is trying to put the world together and it is because trump is the person who made the world divided. we had people who go -- went to washington and still the -- disrespected washington. we are still dividing the world because we have greg abbott that is getting buses and putting them on in democratic states. if you really look at it, that is like a slave where people are trying to find a nice home to live. why do we have to go back to slavery days?

these people should be able to go wherever they want to. we are in the united states and we let everyone else come over and be free and why not let them come over and let them be free? nine times out of 10, -- i bet you he got them working for them. host: how are things in gulf breeze? caller: things are fine here. we didn't catch any of the storm and it is beautiful here. the reason i am calling is i am wondering when it -- this country is going to wake up. we are letting one man, donald trump, destroy this country. i sat there and watched ron desantis defending -- demanding federal emergency might went

florida's pockets are filled with federal money and he is using it to take margaret's to martha's vineyard -- migrates to martha's vineyard. -- migrates --migrants to martha's vineyard. he fired him a week after he signed the bill. what happened to that $500 billion? host: what was the $500 billion for? caller: covid relief money back in march of 2020, 6-eight months before he lost the election, there was a $2.2 trillion cares act. covid relief bill and he would not sign the bill and if -- unless he and steve aleutian.

steve aleutian took down kmart. he is being sued now but trump would not sign the bill -- he and steve mnuchin -- there was a lot of contentious debate in congress and glossy he and the democrats agreed but they wanted the -- trump signed the bill the very next day and trump's lawyer sent a letter to congress telling them that the way that they interpreted the law was the inspector general was only two support to congress the spending that -- chop when it him to report and trump fired that inspector general and asked the -- that is up five with 11 zeros, trump said i will oversee the spending. host: as we wait for the house to come in here momentarily. guest: -- caller: i am thinking

about the overlap between the january 6 investigation and the climate problem. it seems to me that as long as we have the roles that the supreme court upheld a few years ago, allowing unlimited anonymous donations, we have no way of proving that much of the money that made his trump adopt a policy -- the policies he did, probably came from people who wanted to deny and suppress the climate truth so they could avoid paying the fair share of trying to address the common problems and we will probably have a video where we prove the linkages between the carbon interests and the trump policies over the last few years and free ourselves on this bondage. -- from this bondage. host: the house is coming in for the day and it will be a busy day on capitol hill and we will

have you there for coverage and we will be back here on the washington journal tomorrow morning at 7 a.m. eastern. 4:00 a.m. pacific. live coverage on the house floor.