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>> getting you a front row seat to democracy. >> c-span viewers he is back with us as founder and editor and chief. >> i am under the impression that your statement is anymore state senator -- or even your president. when they passed the bipartisan infrastructure bill, who is excepting the money? it is not secretary buttigieg, it is your state legislature who is deciding which will get filled. which broadband access, which

gets delivered to the school district. what happens in sacramento, albany today happens -- and federally year after that. former republican governors in the midwest change policy and achievements.

te legislators meeting a couple of months ago, that was all anybody could talk about. the infrastructure law has advocated for electric buses. there was a new plan built in virginia, there is a buffalo state senator trying to get a new plant in his area. there are these things we think start in dcr playing out in the states. what states do today is going to drive the next policy. ho host: you can join this conversation and we can talk about state policy was read wilson.

(202) 748-8000, for democrats. (202) 748-8001, for republicans. (202) 748-8002, for independents. guest: so many areas to grow.

get demographics of state legislative districts across the country after redistricting. we found the number of districts where biden and former president trump came within 10 points of each other shrink. there are about 40 fewer districts were trump beat biden by a narrow margin. interestingly, the super trump or biden districts shrank. the areas growing are places where biden or trump won between

55% and 65% of the vote. safe districts but voters also defused enough to be efficient, not to waste votes. what the democrats and republicans control the redistricting process in the states have done is create fewer competitors seats and seats that are safely theirs without wasting votes. there are only 30 districts in u.s. congressional districts that biden won by 60 points -- points or lower. that is the least competition we have had in politics since the turn of the 20th century. host: we said the first hour of our program, the supreme court ending the term with the dots decision on impact on states around the country. how does pluribus cover the

ramification of the dobbs decision? guest: we have been taking a look at ballot initiatives that have exploded in five states on the ballot this year. the first one happened in august in a primary in kansas. kansas is a red state. a bill banning abortions there, codifying an abortion ban in the state constitution failed. it was a fascinating race that is going to have ramifications in a lot of other states where people are voting on abortion access. there are states like kentucky, has an abortion ban on the ballot this november. states like california have abortion measures codifying right to seek an abortion on the ballot. we will see that in 10 or 15 states next year in terms of ballot measures. in terms of legislation, we will see that in all 50 states.

we are seeing trends in terms of what states are doing to walk abortion. in indiana, the legislature passed a ban that includes a provision that allows the state attorney general to seek charges against a doctor performing an abortion if the local district attorney declines to press charges. the indiana provision that allows the state attorney general to seek those charges can step in. that is going to show up in every republican bill that comes up next year. that is there work around. sometimes, you have got to wait until three states do something. host: she's you mentioned ballot measures. when we get close to an election, we usually have you come on. what are the interesting ballot measures in 2022?

guest: abortion measures are going to be indicative of how voters react to the dobbs decision. even more so than the actual candidates who are on the ballot. the interesting measure i am watching -- measures i am watching are in california. california is the biggest target for ballot measures. there are some of these campaigns that cost hundreds of millions of dollars. in california right now, there are competing alan initiatives over sports gambling. you are on your phone, making sports bets, there is a big competition between factions of tribes and the big, national gaming corporations -- draft kings, over who gets to be in the marketplace. what platform do you bet on. there are the big casinos that want their own piece of the pie,

local card rooms. there are several different competing ballot measures that could all pass, none could pass. it depends on how that is going to work out. they are spending crazy amounts of money on these campaigns. it shows you how much money is at stake when you think about something like putting money on the l.a. rams. host: you talk about california ballot measures. your philosophy as you start this new venture covering states is, is california more important because of its size, because of its economy then, in your mind, the things that happen in the california legislature, then states like rhode island or maine? are you looking for equal coverage? guest: absolutely. a big idea that is likely to come from vermont or wyoming as it is from california.

it is crucial for us to cover all 50 states because a lot of these trends come out of states you wouldn't expect. arizona has been a big policy leader for republican policy leaders. it is going to be important for us to cover all 50 states. it is the case that california is something like a first among equals. what california does because of the size of their economy means corporations across the country have to tailor their own regimes to their california law. if something happens in california, it is going to be noticed in other states. recently, california passed a measure governing how social media companies can use algorithms to target children, protecting their privacy. it was a bipartisan bill in california. we know the minnesota republican state representative who is going to drop her version of the

bill come january. in california, they passed a measure to increase wages of fast food workers as much as $22 an hour. these franchisees know something that a similar law is going to come down in six or seven states next year. what happens in california tends to lead to trends in other states. that doesn't mean what happens in wyoming doesn't matter. host: if you want to talk about trends in your state, now would be a great time to call in. bruce in ohio, independent. good morning. caller: hi. my question is on the electric cars and buses they want to do. i wonder if he has done a study on how much china would and if it dollar wise -- would and if it -- would benefit from this. the people who live in

apartments in california, how will they charge their cars? that is a tremendous amount of infrastructure for this. guest: you are right. it is a huge amount of infrastructure. it is not just building the cars, it is building charging stations. when they do, that is a big part of the bipartisan infrastructure law allowing the -- allocating funding for measures, building that infrastructure. i do not know about china. i know there is a race right now to attract manufacturing facilities in the united states. i talked the speaker of the state house of west virginia, he was at one of these electric bus manufacturing plants that had just opened in charleston. so far, a lot of the electric vehicle industry has been based

in california. they have got stricter emissions rules. what i think the bipartisan infrastructure law is going to do is fuse that industry across the country. you've got this plant in west virginia, there are going to be new plants everywhere. there are millions of school buses, you can see some in the background of the c-span shot every now and then. talking to some school districts, every one of them is behind on repair and replacing their old school buses. billions of dollars are going to bring a lot of new buses, some made in charleston, west virginia or anywhere else and will replace these. it is intriguing. there are a couple states, new york, california, maryland that have passed measures that require school districts when they buy new buses after 2035 to

go all electric. it is going to force change in an emerging industry. i had fun writing that one. host: this is ted in north carolina, republican. good morning. caller: yes. they should have electricity and solar panels and windmills and electric cars going so many miles. they are going to recharge. they do not realize gas guzzles electricity. thank you. guest: one know of the things these bus companies are working on that every electric vehicle company is working on is range. if you cannot it more than 200, 300 miles. everyone has a standard in their head of how far you can go. range is a huge conversation in

this industry. host: a question from lou on twitter. could you comment on interest rates right now? allstate and local projects are financed, not paid with cash. guest: the infrastructure bill allocated x billion dollars, that goes less far when the cost of the goods is higher, interest rates are higher. bi partisan infrastructure law is -- one of our reporters was talking to one of the --they are saying these projects have not started yet. the infrastructure law is about a year old. the rubber is going to meet the road in three or four years after the law passed, because it

takes time for the states to prioritize their projects and for the projects to break ground. host: akron, ohio. good morning. caller: we've got two issues on the bill in ohio to vote on this coming election. one is required course to consider factors like public safety when setting the amount of bail. that is common sense to me. i do not know why, where that went wrong. like you just bail everybody out no matter what. you have got to consider that. you've got to consider, are they going to endanger the public or not. issue number two, prohibit local government from allowing non-electors to vote. that means that american citizens are legal to vote. if they are registered. that is another, sense thing. why would we let just anybody vote?

the democrats first bill when they first got into office was hr one, to nationalize voting without any integrity at all. i do not know why somebody would think that it is prejudiced or bigoted or whatever they think it is to require somebody to sell a legal ballot to vote. you've got a identities vote, that do not make sense to me. host: you bring up a couple of issues. guest: i think it brings up two issues we are going to be covering. the voting rights conversation is a conversation happening differently in ohio then it is in a bluer state like oregon or california. bail reform is huge, a fascinating set of issues that people are bringing up in a lot of different states. there are some states loosening

bail, some making it stricter. this is the wonderful thing about covering these states. ohio is one of the few legislators -- legislatures that is full-time. when you think about different things happening in states across the country, ohio has its own set of stories. there is a major scandal around money for a nuclear power plant that ended up getting the speaker of the house booted from office. this is a great set of stories we get to cover. host: the issue of bail reform and criminal justice, this chart is from the prison policy project. it is the whole pie of people incarcerated in the united states. we talk about federal criminal justice reform, this slice of the pie applies to people in federal prisons is about 208,000 people. it is that brown slice down there.

this green slice, people in state prisons. that is about 1,000,042 thousand. another 540 7000 people in local jails. that is where people are locked up in this country, by and large. guest: you can apply this chart to just about anything in terms of the way money is spent on things that government does. the federal department of education, when they deliver money to schools, the sheriff of a school's budget that comes from the money comes from state and local governments. from the taxes you pay to your state or local government. not the feds. so many of the big things running through america today, we designed the whole country to funnel decisions to the local and state level. we think it is important to cover that state and local level, that is where interesting policy is happening.

that is where a lot of these legislators at their ideas. there are 7000 state legislators in america. those legislators, the vast majority of them are part time. they have second jobs. the vast majority of them do not have staff like members of congress. the state legislators have none. where do they look for their good ideas? their colleagues, other states. if minnesota, iowa, kansas does something interesting on electric buses or criminal justice reform or anything, a legislator in north carolina or california will take note. that is why it is important for us to cover these local policy battles, they become the policy battle that happens in your backyard. host: this is jeff, nebraska.

good morning. caller: yeah. i think americans are getting bamboozled on this whole power thing. they can buy all the buses they want. they can make all these cars, electric. they can put the power stations in. where are they going to get the power to do it right now? we've got california, who shuts down half the state because they cannot put power in their state. all these greenies talk about coal, oil, this drilling and stuff. what china goes all the way around the world, they do the same thing these special minerals we have to have to make solar panels and windmills. they are the same thing, the coal people and oil people are doing.

there is no difference. we better wake up. host: let rita wilson jump in. you struck a chord with electric buses. guest: i am a super nerd. i love it. i'm going to point to the guy i referenced earlier, the speaker of the house of west virginia. when you think of industry in west virginia, you think of coal. he told me they want to get to a point where coal is too expensive to burn. they want to get to that. too valuable to burn, i do not want to create problems for anybody too much. his point was, a lot of the minerals jeff was talking about that going to solar panels, the chips in your tablet or smart phone, you can get them from