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eastern time zone, the number is 202-748-8000. pacific time zone, 202-748-8001. you can also send us text this morning, 202-748-8003. if you do, please include your name and where you're from. otherwise, catch up with us on social media and on facebook.com/cspan. latino voters only in this first hour of the "washington journal." what's your top issue in campaign 2022. haying hispanic voters could swing the 2022 midterm election like many minority groups, hispanic voters are assumed to be democrats for many years. that assumption was borne out in national voting patterns but in 2020, the republican saw

significant growths and recent polls suggests that democrats edge hispanic voters even narrower. this is nbc news and telemundo showing that less than six weeks before the midterm elections, democrats republicans by more than 20 points among latino voters but that has declined from previous athletics cycle. just 10 years ago, that advantage at 40 points. the poll finding latino voters are essentially divided on president biden with 51% approving of his job performance. 45% disapproving. and it shows that voters largely latino voters siding with democrats on issues like abortion and health care and addressing concerns in the hispanic community but it also has them backing republicans on issues like crime and the economy. that's what we're asking about this morning. talking about latino voters about your top issues.

what is bringing you know polls in 2022? as you're calling in, some of the recent appeals from former president donald trump on wednesday. >> we're here this afternoon to celebrate one of the fastest growing groups in the entire country, proud, hispanic, conservatives and republicans. [applause] the left, the media and the washington establishment, they never saw it coming. you never saw it coming, did you, cnn? but today, hispanic americans are joining our movement by the millions and millions and millions. [applause] hispanics are rallying to our cause for a simple reason because you love america and you believe in america and you know that the time has come to stand up and defend america and everything it stands for.

generations of hispanic since have help forge pour communities, found our churches, build our small businesses and police our street, teach our children, protect our borders, serve in our military and lift up our nation in a million different ways. there is no industry that hispanic americans have not made stronger and better. and we have so many representatives in that room who lead those industries like bob and so many others. it's really incredible. there's no cities that hispanic americans have not made better and there's no part of america that has not been uplifted by hispanic americans, and not made greater. host: form for thed donald trump.

this is president biden from last month. president biden: that's what i want to talk briefly tonight. historic mercuries cue plan help us move from economic crisis to resurgence. i want to tell you how that law funding closes the racial gap and vaccinated hispanic americas and now it helped more latinos gain insurance now than ever before. 28% of public school students are latino. 28%. we better make sure they have every opportunity they have. not a joke. imagine, imagine the opposition talking about why it's not

important. it is critically important. we've invested $11 billion. the largest investment in the future of hispanic college student in pour entire history. with help of all of you, we expanded the child tax credit of over 40% among latinos of the lowest rate ever. we saw the biggest one-year drop in hispanic unemployment on record. the biggest job front in unemployment. and folks, we made puerto rico piece economic recovery and development a top priority. host: president biden last month at an event for the congressional hispanic caucus.

if you want to watch it, you can do so on our website at c-span.org. in this first hour of the "washington journal," asking for palat voters only. want to hear about your top issue in campaign 2022. with that, andy is up first in sterling, west virginia. good morning. caller: i find it ironic that any proud hispanic would even consider voting for any republican from dogcatcher of a president. they have done nothing, nothing, to help the hispanic community. the democrats have actually come out with legislation. president biden has put forth medicine that will help every working class hispanic in this country. all the republicans can do is

attack, belittle. they allow the proliferation of guns in this country, which resulted in the massacres at el paso and uvalde. two areas that are basically run by republicans. republican mayor, republican governor. they do nothing to protect the people in this country, especially working class hispanics. all you have to do is see what the democrats and president biden who's a wonderful president have done to basically uplift everybody in this country. you want to see the continuation of attacks on hispanics, vote republican. unfortunately, many hispanics are unfamiliar with what's going on in this country. they vote blindly thinking that the republican party is actually helping them when in reality, they are basically doing their best to destroy them. host: so andy on that point,

what do you think accounts for republican gains among the preferences of latino voters in this country? back in 2012, democrats had a 40-point advantage when asked before the election, a month before the election who's your preference to control congress in the upcoming elections? it was among latino voters, latino voters said democrats controlling congress would be the -- controlling the congress. and compare that to just the most recent poll. it's 54% for democratically controlled congress and 33% for republican controlled congress. so what do you think accounts for that gain among republicans in the latino community? caller: you know, john, unfortunately, i think the republicans have done a better job of going to hispanic communities and flooding the

airwaves, the radio stations with misinformation as to what republicans are going to do. they have not done anything to help the working class hispanics. and it isn't until hispanics are presented with facts and statistics as to what democrats are doing for them and what republicans are doing. only then do they realize wait, maybe i should be voting democrats. the republicans are great at spreading lies, great at propaganda, they're great at attacking minorities and nothing else. host: andy, got your point. from this morning, talking to latino voters only, asking for your top issue in campaign 2022. we'll head to jacksonville, florida. this is henry. good morning. caller: good morning. my biggest issue is going to be a border secure, inflation and

economy, the way the country's going. host: and who do you think is doing a better job on those three issues? border, the economy, inflation -- we lost henry but this is john in santa maya, california. john, what do you think? caller: white men speak with forced tongue. host: john in california. go ahead and keep calling in. we'll show you from last week. this is clarisa martina decastro from the nation's largest nonprofit advocacy organization, talking about the political

diversity that exists within the latino community. here's some of what she had to say in that interview. >> historically and we continue to see that today about 2/3 of latinos and we saw in this poll and research as well that they see where their values are overall more in line with democrats. but historically also, about one third have come to support republicans. and then there is a swing element within the hispanic electorate that has always been there as well. i think that some of it has to do with people's individual thinking, about different things, but it also has to do with what kind of outreach parties and candidates are doing to make sure that voters know what they stand for. and i think in modern days, that problem is exacerbated with the spread of disinformation and misinformation where we're seeing a lot of times, efforts

to -- why the candidate stand for and why they speak to one face in one community and another face in another community. but anyway, we are a multi-racial community and there are going to be how people end up supporting homes. it is also while we are a diverse community and that means multi-ethnic and multi-racial, we are melting pot in the latino community itself, there continues to be great affinity over the top concerns that we believe congress, the president, and state and elected officials should do something about. host: you can watch that full interview on our website at c-span.org if you want to. or you can join the conversation. we're talking about latino voters in the 2022 midterm elections.

a lot of focus on the midterms in these sunday front pages. from the national newspapers. we are just 30 days away from midterm elections. here's the jump page from the "new york times." battle for the senate intensifies amidst a tumultuous midterm campaign. and "washington post" done a front page focusing on another voting block, women. women powered democrats in 2018. will they do it again in 2022? we're focusing on the latino voting block in this country. i want to hear from latino voters only. what's your top issue in campaign 2022? go ahead and keep calling in. phone lines split regionally. mark is out of napa, california. good morning. caller: good morning there. good morning. thank you for taking my call. i'm latino. let's see. i kind of lost what i was going to say there.

but it is -- i'm just going to stick personally close to home here. from my work here, at any work personally, i'm in the hotel industry. we still have not had our housekeeping, which is -- not trying to stereotype, which is only mexican women. we still do not have a full crew from what happened to covid when over half of our cleaning crew lost their jobs because of it. they have gone somewhere else and we are still struggling with housekeepers. also amongst the housekeepers that i have left and that are still there, i had talked to them and most of them did not want to get the covid vaccine -- vaccination. years ago, a movie came out and there was a woman that guatamala, that's where i'm from, who asked about the government in the united states and her friend said don't worry

about the government and the united states because they never ask any questions. and that's a different story today with the biden administration and what they're doing to people in general. they're doing it to everybody. just i feel -- host: mark, when you say they're doing it to everybody, what are they doing? caller: well, like this hiring of the i.r.s. agents and things like that. they're not just going to come after black people or white people. they're going to come after the latino people too. you rarely hear us, things like that. in california here, gavin newsom has nothing to say in the election book that's coming up for this midterm. he has absolutely zero to say on his statement. if you look at the book, it's absolutely blank. so he's got some big kahunas to say nothing after shutting

everybody down, latinos included during the covid pandemic. and plus he refused to have his powers shortened, the government's powers. he refuses to have them shortened a little bit during the pandemic which means that he has an overextension on the rules which affects everybody here in california. host: mark, what's your thought of who ends up controlling the house and senate when the dust settles here? caller: i hope the republicans do all the way because they're going to help everybody. host: you think with republicans in control, that's what's going to happen? what do you think happens legislatively in this country and what do you think happens with the ability to get things done for people? caller: oh, i think that -- well, look, two years ago, i haven't seen anything build back better or build back stronger,

whatever joe biden's slogan is there. i haven't seen that happen for anybody. i'm seeing latino people walk and ride bicycles and that's unheard of. host: mark, thanks for the call, from napa, california. danny's next in california as well. manny, go ahead. caller: all right. i'm a former law professor, retired, out here in la hoya, california. and my big issue is because i'm from cuba, i left cuba when i was 8 years old and i went to yale. and i lived the american dream. i have nothing to complain. i've got four beautiful adult kids. and my problem is that biden's promise sanctions on cuba. i've been living with them for 60 years. i can vote in cuba. i repay ited -- repay it @ed --

repatriated. we have the best of both worlds. and cuba does have a democracy. and unfortunately, biden is following trump on the cuba sanctions and really hurting the cuban people. and there's not enough press attention given to how much destruction biden is doing by following trump instead of obama. so my hope this that when he loses the two congressional seats in miami, there's about a million cubans in miami with two congressional seats and they're all bunched up. they have an amazing power. those seats have republicans last name and biden still trying to get them back. but i think he will fail in his efforts and maybe then, they'll pay more attention to cuba and

try to ease up on the sanctions because people are really hurting in cuba because the domestic politics play into the foreign policy on cuba. host: manny, can you share that story about coming here when you said i believe 8 years old and then why you decided the repatriation process? can you talk us through those two things? caller: yeah. my mother was american. she was a chorus girl. and she met my father who was a treasure for the dictator bautista. and i became a socialist, which is unusual for a cuban american because fidel and che were my heroes when i left cuba. my two sisters and the rest of the family, they're very republican. my father was a republican and

my never was a -- father was a republican. and my current wife who is 37 would vote republican because she hates the communists. but i repatriated when i was working for the fbic as an attorney closing down banks there in arlington, virginia. and there was the embassy, the cuban embassy there. so i was able to get my cuban passport, do my papers when i retired about 10 years ago. host: and why did you want to do that? caller: because being a socialist, i am a lifelong supporter of the cuban revolution, which makes it very different from all the republicans. we're a very diverse group. being hispanic, you know, doesn't really tell you much. you really have to ask a lot more questions about their background. so my background is very unique.

i'm having a birthday party, my 70th birthday party. i have 200 people on my cuban newspaper e-mail list and i invited every one of them to my birthday party and i offer to give them $2,000 each and my wife says you know, that means you're going to have to pay $400,000 if everybody is on your list accepts. and i said well, you didn't grow up here. she grew up in cuba. and i said if you're growing up here, you will see how much the news media and how much the politicians beat up on little cuba. and last time i did this at my 60th birthday party, i had 100 on my list and only 10 showed up. most of them were socialist and everyone's afraid of little cuba because they're communist, you know? and so because of my background, i repatriated and 50,000 of us

did that. and we're able to vote in cuba and we're able to buy one house in cuba. we're able to buy one car. but then the cuba sanctions make me a criminal. i can go to prison for 10 years. i can get fined $250,000 if i quote-unquote live in cuba. and i'm an american citizen. same thing as my wife. host: manny, thanks for talking through that with us. and is today your birthday? caller: my birthday is december 12. so i'm inviting everybody down there to havana where i was born for my birthday party. host: an early happy birthday to you, manny. thanks for chatting with us. this is leah here in washington, d.c. you're next. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you so much for listening and for taking our opinions.

my background -- i am partly cuban. i'm indigenous from the mountains and i'm mixed with my father was from yucatan, from mexico. and he immigrated to venezuela and he married my mother. from the sierra. so i'm mixed. and we grew up admiring and taking -- cuba has been the world's richest country in terms of natural resources, beauty, pristine, ecosystem. now, you talk about culture.

so cuba has influence. it influences every -- on earth. so the music is international now. host: so leah -- caller: every country -- host: would you agree with -- caller: music. host: would you agree with that last caller that cuba is a big issue for him in this election cycle? is cuban policy -- caller: of course. so all of us, any educated latino american person, the ones who are watching knows. i went to thanks to cuba, i did go -- when i live in venezuela, i did political science, they pay for all my schooling because i was indigenous. they told me a -- taught me a lot of things.

they taught me history and in the united states and what made american millions and african people who were -- the slaves in africa build this country, where i'm living in right now. so i learn everything from cuba. and i want to make -- i want to clarify one point. i agree with the last caller with an exception that all of you in the media, a lot of people who don't study political science make this mistake over and over and over. because shows like, you know, people -- are making too many mistakes and calling the political kind of groups. so cuba is not communist. repeat.

cuba is not communist. repeat. cuba is not communist. cuba is a socialist country and the united states hate it because united states couldn't put the -- on cuba and [indiscernible] united states -- women in cuba as their background to have fun, right? to go have all the liquor, all the drug and all the women they wanted. so when cuba said stop, you get out of here. this is our country. you respect us. we are all about education. cuba is the -- indigenous country. and it is a country full of intelligence people. host: thank you for chatting about cuba. talking to latino voters only. it's 202-748-8000 if you're a

latino voter in the eastern or central time zones and-1 1 for latino voters in the mountain or pacific time zones having this conversation. with just latino voters just for this first segment of the "washington journal." a caller from tampa, florida. good morning. caller: good morning. host: go ahead. what's your top issue this campaign cycle? caller: i have two. one of them is the issue is the open borders and the second one is inflation. i have seen my not just me, but everything, you go to the grocery store. i actually have gotten a basically in my paycheck has been -- it doesn't go as much as it used to. but the main thing is the open borders. host: and how do we fix that

problem? caller: one of the things you can do is do what europe and spain does. it's the fact that you can go ahead and design a work visa where the people can come in, be in the states for nine months and then they have to leave. you can have jobs and it also provides you a path for legal residency as well as citizenship. host: and there's a lot of concern about visa overstay that's one way people get into the u.s. and overstay their visa and then become undocumented in that process. how would your system fix that problem? caller: well, one one of the thu have to monitor those people. if they overstay, then they are here illegally. they are violating their state

statute. host: thank you for the call. latino voters only in this first segment of "washington journal." (202)-748-8000 if you are a latino voter in the eastern or central time zones. (202)-748-8001 if you are a latino voter in the mountain or pacific time zones. in an interview with fox news, republican congresswoman -- spoke about latino voters in border states, specifically turning to the gop. [video clip] >> the national democrat party has abandoned the spanish community. we are pro-god, profamily family, all about hard work. that is who we are. the democrat party does not represent those values. they don't care about us here in

south texas. where is the biden administration in south texas? he has not cared to come and see the mess he has created. we are completely abandoned here. that is the reason why so many hispanics are walking away from the democrat party. we want to be heard. we want them to focus on us, on the american people. we would not be here in the position we are in if not for the people that voted us into this position. we want to focus on the american people. the american people are focusing to pay their rent and utility bills. we are talking about the crisis at the border and it is not fair for them as well. host: that interview with congresswoman myra flores, talking with latino voters. (202)-748-8000 if you are a latino voter in the eastern or central time zones. (202)-748-8001 if you are a latino voter in the mountain or pacific time zones.

luis in oklahoma, you are next. caller: good morning. host: go ahead. caller: ok. my concern is the threat of the republican party against democracy. i don't understand how anybody can support what trump and his maga movement is doing. they don't care about the constitution. nothing that is his doing is following the constitution. everything he is doing is against law. they are supposed to be the party of law and order, but they have forgotten about that. host: on the january 6 issue,

there is one more of these select committee hearings that we will see before the election. that one is scheduled for this coming week. i wonder your thoughts on the impact that will have of keeping this issue front and center and making that one of the issues in the midterm elections. do you think these televised hearings are having that effect? (202)-748-8001 not -- caller: not on the maga followers. they remind me of the movie, the omen. they follow their leader until death. i hope the independent voters understand what is going on. i used to be a republican until trump showed up. then i have not been able to vote republican again. host: do you think you would

ever go back to the republican party? caller: absolutely not. not while trump is in the environment. host: if donald trump were no longer part of the publican party, could you see yourself going back? caller: yes, depending on the way the republicans act. in oklahoma, they are like blind trump followers. i'm not voting for them. host: what were the issues before donald trump that made you vote republican? what did you think republicans were doing better pre-trump? caller: it was real conservative values. i am puerto rican and people believe we are mostly democrat but we are not.

i don't believe in abortion. i don't believe in pushing my beliefs on others. using the law to push our beliefs on others, that is not me. that is not the way it should be. that is why we have a constitution. we are not governed by the bible. host: this is carlos, in washington, d.c. your top issue in campaign 2022? caller: good morning. i think the next cycle, following cycles, i think we are all screwed. i voted for obama. i voted for trump. then i voted for biden. i don't know what party to go to. i think the problem is democrats like that congresswoman playback said, the democrats never make

any changes. they never do anything for hispanics because they have to look tough. republicans, it is like a racist white nationalist paneling -- pandering party. i guess i just have to go for independents. i don't believe there is a good party anymore. host: what takes somebody from voting for obama to voting for trump to voting for biden? caller: after obama, i saw the machinery of the democratic party moving along. let's just get the next candidate. i think your callers have said, you can't just put one label on latinos. generally speaking, we come from

somewhat patriarchal countries, where people believe to some extent in the strength -- in the good of a strong government. religion is a big factor, i see that. but when you see the corruption that we saw with the democratic party, you kind of start remembering your country, your country of origin. it doesn't matter if you are south american or central american. host: you are saying you saw this in the campaign of hillary clinton? caller: i did. frankly there is an aspect of nepotism. like come on, your husband was president twice. i think for a period, a 20 year period, our top leadership was

either a clinton or a bush. let's shift things up and give other people a chance. i think bernie had a great chance. he was the most popular person in that campaign and he got shoved out or outmaneuvered by hillary. i did not like what i saw. i saw a broken system. i saw bickering in congress, i saw the back and forth, nothing happening. i didn't vote for trump thinking this guy was going to fix everything. i saw him for the slimy guy he was. i figured this will send a message to the rest of the politicians, that you need to fix this. the sad thing is i was wrong. the message was sent, but instead of saying let's fix it, the republican party said he is the power source so we have to embrace it and that is really said. host: so why then go to barack

obama as vice president? why switch to joe biden, somebody who was part of that system you were concerned about when you voted for trump the first time? caller: the message was sent. i think besides that, i think to keep trump empower, when there are so many things wrong with the man. forget the supreme court justice packing with super conservatives, forget the racist stuff and the white nationalist stuff. the man was cozying up with putin who we now know is a big problem. i think an additional four years of trump would have changed this country so dramatically that we would all look back and see it as a point of no return. host: thank you for the call.

we will head to florida. this is nelson, good morning. caller: yes. host: go ahead with your top issue. caller: the first thing we need to address is term limits. we have people in washington, d.c. that have been in office forever. the first thing we should address is term limits. definitely people are suffering. high rent, high taxes, high food costs. the problem is this did not start with biden, it did not start with trump. this has been going on for a while and those issues have been slowly rising. the other thing we need to do, latinos need to vote. we have a lot of good latinos out there working and being involved, but there are a lot of

latinos, american citizens that don't vote. for us to sit back and complain when we don't see things our way, that is an injustice for us, if we are not a part of the process. host: we mentioned latino voters are the largest group of eligible minority voters in this country. this is hispanic voters in recent years becoming the largest eligible voting population among minority groups, passing african-americans in this country back in the late 20 teens but if you scroll down in this chart, it shows that when it comes to actually voting, african-americans vote more often than hispanic americans while hispanic americans are the largest eligible population,

they don't vote in the numbers they are eligible, voting as a share of the voting population, about 10% of african-americans in this country, closer to 12%. caller: you are talking about eligible folks that can vote. that means those of the ones that are being tracked. that is not even talking about the ones that don't bother to register or have registered ever. you can imagine how far that gap is. in terms of the african-american community, we have the same problem. they don't come out and vote and for whatever reason they feel that they have been left behind or it is not important to them. we can't continue to complain if we are not willing to get involved in the game.

definitely, term limits is a big thing in my book because we need to be able to break the cycle of the bad things that are happening in washington. locally, people need to get involved. when people get involved on the local level, that moves right up to the top. i think the biggest problem is we don't get involved in the process, we don't vote and there are only a handful of latinos out there advocating for the rest of us but they are not a good representation of all the people that don't vote. we deafly have some issues that need to be addressed. the way the country is going, it is not a good thing. we are sending billions of dollars to other countries to help the and we have problems in this country that we have not resolved in 50 years. host: one other chart from that

story about latino voters in this country, we mentioned that latino voters are the fastest-growing voting bloc in the country. one in five voters who just reached voting age was hispanic in the year 2020. you can see how that has grown. back in 2008, 11%, just one in 10 were hispanic. that double over the past 12 years. some of your comments from social media as we have been having this conversation with latino voters, asking what your top issue is in 2022, this is luis lopez, crime and the economy are the top issues. rocky from facebook saying this latinx nonsense. stop the identity politics and this idea of marginalized people. if they are broke it is on them

but us working folks need to be taken care of first. i over these freeloaders. oscar saying inflation, stock market collapse, loss of energy independence and nuclear armageddon are his top issues. -- marijuana legalization, public college. kevin writing in, affordable housing, health care, student debt. that is some of the conversation happening at facebook.com/c-span. you can follow us on facebook or call in. ron from texas, good morning. caller: good morning. i was going to reflect myra florez's comment about -- she started her campaign a year and a half ago and that is when i met her, and in that period, she

has never amplified anything like that until about 10 days ago when she met with two fellow candidates down in south texas. so i think there campaign manager -- i asked her about what she meant by god as her foremost issue, and she thought it was a trick question and would not initially address it. now she has campaign ads that include her children and they are masked and that does not reflect good on having christian values. she's been a coward and never had to debate and backed out of a debate that was planned for 10 days from now. she has never had her own voice since washington has had her for the last six months. she doesn't have anything to say

on her own. host: are you going to vote for her? caller: no. i would not vote -- it is an american to not express a single viewpoint -- it is un-american to not express a single viewpoint. host: will you vote for the democrat in the race? caller: yes i will. at least he is able to have the courage to express his views. myra has no courage because she is not herself. she is strictly a road candidate for the handlers in washington. host: octavio out of las vegas, good morning you are next. caller: good morning. when i see the far left, how it is broken and arranged, these

last couple of years, i am really scared. i am a maga supporter. i am far from being a semi-fascist. when i see how the price of gas has -- the democrats have managed to put this upon us. i will never be democrat anymore. i am a maga supporter and i don't think i will be democrat for the rest of my life. host: what does it mean to be a maga supporter in your mind? caller: a maga supporter.

they can say we are kool-aid drinkers and all of that. we are putting this country first, family. those of us who are god-fearing, who believe in life, that are lifting ourselves up by our own bootstraps and i don't -- the mainstream media treated donald trump and i will never be a democrat anymore. host: octavio inda vande, a state in which one in four

voters are hispanic. showing states with high hispanic populations, and those states with the black border around them, states where there are key senate races this cycle, those states could decide control of the senate. georgia, a state where 6% of the eligible voting population is hispanic. we will go to georgia where we had a call or a second ago but they are no longer on the line. we will come back to d.c. caller: good morning. the main issue for us is housing, and student loans, forgiving student loans. i was in virginia originally.

i have three children and -- [indiscernible] my oldest one wants to become -- navy seal, why are you not helping us with forgiving the debt? we need help with that. my children are humble. [indiscernible] over $2000 for just the two bedroom. host: on all of those issues

that you bring up, which party is helping to address those issues? caller: the only party that makes sense and has social equity for the working class like us has been the democrats. there is no other. any hispanic that votes for the republicans -- sociopathic of this group. [indiscernible]

-- using the hate. host: a caller from georgia, we have one. good morning, you are next. talking to latino voters only. caller: good morning. can you hear me? host: yes or. caller: my main issue is the economy and inflation, and also the border. i think this is a country of laws and right now it is an overwhelming amount of people coming here and we cannot sustain that situation. i am originally from chile, and i see what happens in my country. it is overwhelming to see -- filling out with people and it is just amazing.

i believe in this country, i'm very happy to live here. this country has been great to me, but these are the two topics that i think from my point of view, i'm independent, i voted for obama and biden but right now, i think the party can do better. host: who are you going to vote for between raphael warnock and herschel walker? caller: neither of them. i don't like them either way, either one. host: that is alan. we will be talking more about the battle for the house and senate. georgia is ground zero for one of the key clashes in the senate. we've been talking with latino voters only in this first hour of "washington journal." also showing you some of the recent comments from latino

members of congress. this is -- born in columbia, democrat nominee for congress in florida's 27th district. she is trying to knock off maria salazar. here is one of her recent campaign acts -- campaign ads. [video clip] >> my family came to this country seeking freedom, freedom from government control, freedom from violence. this election will determine if we remember -- if we remain a beacon of freedom or if we become a socialist dictatorship. maga republicans support government control over women's health care decisions, even in cases of rape or incest. i approve this message because freedom is worth fighting for. host: that is her campaign add in florida. to get a sense of what the ads look like on both sides, this is one of the recent ads from maria

salazar, the republican. [video clip] >> when you go to the supermarket, you cannot get all you need. at the gas station we can't even fuel our tanks. two years ago we lived in another world. but now inflation is out of control. the environment is in danger. the american dream is slipping away. i approve this message because my parents lost their country to socialism. over my dead body will we lose hours. -- will we lose ours. host: some of the campaign ads in that south florida race. we are talking about campaign 2022, talking to latino voters only. we want to know what your top issue is. california, this is alberto from stockton. alberto are you with us? caller: yes i am. host: go ahead, what is your top

issue? caller: my top issue is i am neither democrat or republican. i am an independent, freedom. i believe everyone in the united states land should have amnesty and let's build a wall with guns, so we are not an embarrassment to everybody in the world that we can't even secure our own border. host: that is alberto in california. this is carmen in texas. caller: good morning. my main issue is democracy. i have voted for republicans in the past. i so much regret that, now that i have retired. i am more in tune to politics.

i see free-speech tv, ic msnbc and even fox news. i cannot believe all of the lies that come out of fox news. all they do is trash the democrats. i've lost friends because they say all of the democrats are pedophiles. politics is a taboo topic. anyway, i am a big veteran supporter. i think our governor here has made it legal to carry guns without any permits. that is awful. i am pro-life but i will not impose my will on any woman. there are so many reasons that people have to get an abortion.

i approve of having abortion. anyway, that is my view. host: what is your feeling about the beto o'rourke/governor abbott race? caller: i live close to downtown. there are a lot of beto signs. most of the republicans live way out in the suburbs. i know there are a lot of trump supporters there. but around my neighborhood, inside the loop, there are many beto signs and i hope the people that are for him will go out and vote. that is one of the problems is hispanics don't vote. they are too busy working. they don't have time to pay

attention to politics. i am retired now, so i pay more attention to what is going on. i just cannot believe that we have a man like trump and maga people. all they do is fear, fear, fear. inflation is worldwide, people. open borders, that is another fear factor. we have always had people coming over. i have lived in san antonio my whole life. the people who come over want to work. they have to have some kind of regulation. the republicans don't want regulation. people should that their work permit to come over. i remember years ago, people failed to come over and then

went back to their country. they would earn money to support their families, build their home or whatever and people were so afraid of open borders. that is to me, not a topic that should be considered. we have people asking for asylum. host: our last caller in this first segment of washington journal, but stick around. we will talk up next with nathan gonzales of inside elections. we will talk about campaign 2022. later we will be joined by the johns hopkins university school of international studies to discuss the women's protests in iran and the challenges they are facing their. stick around -- facing there. stick around.

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0 seats in the house. that is above what they need. the senate is close to a tossup. i would may be a pinky on the scale for mcgrath -- democrats. republicans only need 1. if democrats gain, they obviously control, and if there is no net change at 50-50, then we remain at 50-50. we were looking at from the senate to the house, there are half a dozen senate races that are within 5 points. we still have a few weeks to go. host: what are they key indicators to be watching right now early in the cycle it was who is raising money and we can count that. with 30 days out, what are the indicators you watch? guest: we're looking at the individual race level.

there are things like biden's approval rating. the general ballot can tell us environmentally what is going on. we are trying to identify, look at as much data in those districts and those competitive senate states because there are some unique dynamics within each of those. there are candidates with strengths and weaknesses. trying to balance between the economy and abortion -- the dobbs decision interjected abortion as an issue. host: is it unusual 30 days out to not know what the key issue for voters is in an election cycle? guest: apparently we do not have normal election cycles anymore.

the president is unpopular, the economy is struggling, republicans were set up to do well, but the combination of the supreme court decision and the senate, some candidates, republican nominees who have run the underwhelming campaigns post primary, they won competitive primaries, and they did not continue that momentum, and it took them a while to get there general election seal legs, and that has created-- sea le -- sea legs. host: what are one or two bellwethers you are watching? guest: if we look at the east coast first because those polls will close earlier on election night, if we stay in this general d.c. area, looking at virginia's seventh district, abigail spanberger is running for real action -reelection- .

spanberger has a slight advantage, but it includes some d.c. suburbs. if republicans are winning that type of district, it is probably getting closer to that 20 seat on the range. in western maryland, david truax and -- it is a democratic district, but it has a lot of rural western maryland. if there is a strong surge of republican voters that is not being picked up in the polling and they knock off david, then it could be 20 and. even exceeding that range if we know who wins pennsylvania, that is the eastern seaboard, i'm not sure we will have enough votes counted on election night. that is a whole theme for election night, not just when

did the polls close, but how soon do we know who wins because of how soon will all the ballots be counted? host: this is what we do with nathan gonzales. we can go state-by-state, race by race, so start calling in. republican colors, -- callers, (202) 748-8001. democratic callers, (202) 748-8000. independent callers, (202) 748-8002. in the first half of today, we talked about the role latino voters are playing this cycle. thoughts on that? guest: they will be critical, but we should all be learning the lessons that latino voters are not monolithic. latino voters in florida, in

that race against salazar and taddeo, that is different than south texas. country of generation, how many generations have your family been in the country -- there is a temptation to say " latino voters only care about immigration." it is the economy! it is other regular big issues that every other voter cares about! what stuck out to me about that ad you showed from taddeo in that florida race is you see emerging as messaging a bit on government and freedom, using some of the language republicans are using, but using it on the issue of abortion, government control of your body on abortion. at that is some of what we saw in kansas when there was an amendment on the ballot to potentially remove access to abortion, and it ultimately, in kansas, that initiative failed

and the right to legal abortion was upheld. it was not just the abortion issue, because democrats are using that everywhere, but the language and the terminology that taddeo was using. host: i have more ads to throw at you, but let me get to carol first on the line for democrats. you are up first in this segment. caller: my question deals with new york 19, the race between josh riley and mike molinaro. i wonder what insight you might have about that election and who is going to win. guest: that is a great question. new york 19 is one of the competitive races we are watching! there is a little bit of conflicting data. one of the most recent public polls showed riley was in the lead, although republicans are skeptical about that all because

there were too many voters with a college degree included in the sample. molinaro is in an interesting spot because he lost the special election in a different district, and now he is running in this district. republicans are more confident in his ability here. i want to see more data. your vote is going to matter because that will be a key race in the fight for the house. host: you have new york 22 as one of your pure tossup's, that open seed that john katko is retiring. guest: katko showed over the last few cycles that he can win in a democratic leaning district. he decided to not run for reelection. as the race has played out, the republicans are in the game. we just moved back from a tilt

democrat to our tossup category, because it is a race. it is a good example-- early in this cycle you develop a hypothesis, but when you get this close to the election, it matters what is happening on the ground. host: that chart viewers are seeing on their screens, that is on inside elections.com. you can see all races available there. insideelections.com. robin is from the pelican state down in louisiana, republican, good morning. caller: good morning. host: go ahead. caller: hello? host: what is your question, robin? caller: i would just like to see what is going on with the borders in texas? we are seeing a lot of those other people coming out of other countries, coming into louisiana. i would like to see our oil and

gas industry flourish. i would like to see biden out of office. i think he needs to be more concerned with our, borders and what is going on with our economy, stop giving to ukraine, and worry about what is going on with other countries, because we have so much going on in the u.s.. host: immigration, energy, and president biden's job approval. guest: you have identified on immigration a key issue republicans want to talk about. there are economic issues, including inflation, gas prices, the cost of living in general, but crime endeavor and immigration are 2 of the issues we are seeing show up and republican ads. it is not just border states. we are seeing it as a priority for republican voters all over

the country, and it is up to democrats to answer the questions. we have a democratic president and democratic congress. it is up to democrats for them to demonstrate that there is a path forward, that there is not the crisis they are seeing played out in republican ads. host: " has nathan ever seen 2 more different candidates than federman and oz? federman's gun pointing incident will not cost him a single vote." guest: steve, i am going through in my brain about other races in history over the last 20 years to see where there have been such opposite candidates, but federman, on the one hand, republicans have brought up the incident that happened a few years ago with the unarmed black

jogger, but also federman is soft on crime and wants to let criminals and rapists out on the street. this is one of the top races in the country. the party that wins three of pennsylvania, georgia and nevada will be in control of the senate next year and oz is one of those candidates who post primary, stumbled out of the gate. he had high unfavorable ratings and he has not recovered from those. republicans are driving up federman's negatives, but if the election was held today, federman probably wins. host: this is an oz ad going

after federman on the issue of crime. [video clip] >> there is a special ap press story today showing federman has been a no-show his whole life. he has been a no-show on debates. what did he show up for? parole meetings to let murderers out on our streets. pennsylvanians deserve better. host: men met oz's -- mehmet oz's ad. to be fair we will show you an ad from john fetterman. this is an ad they are paying for in this campaign. [video clip] >> for too many women, the home

is the last place they feel safe. o wouldz make it easier for domestic abusers to get guns. that is why 911 calls for domestic violence are among the most dangerous for women and police. oz will not keep us safe. host: nathan gonzales, your thoughts? guest: -- your thoughts? guest: 2 ads from a state that is being flooded with ads. oz is playing catch-up. republicans are frustrated that his brand of populism does not match up with his actual background. they have to tell that story because he has cultivated that brand. people know him as the lieutenant governor who looks like a nightclub bouncer, who

wears a hoodie and shorts no matter what the weather appears to be. republicans think this is moving in their favor, this race, but starting from a federman advantage. host: two kentucky. this is regina -- to kentucky. this is regina, an independent. caller: good morning, mr. gonzales. thank you for taking my call. i am interested in knowing what the status is in 2 races. they are senate races. one is for my state here in kentucky. we have rand paul running against charles booker. the other race i am interested in marco rubio is -- in is rubio and val demings. guest: we have it solid

republican in our ratings. booker, where are they investing their time and money because that is an indication of where they think the fight for the senate really takes place and we have not seen and outside investment on offense or defense in this particular race. when democrats think of kentucky they think about amy mcgrath and her previous races how, much she raised and she didn't even come close. i think there is some resentment . to some democrats wished the money that was previously spent in kentucky would go to other races that were closer. florida is a good race to watch. i believe rubio has the advantage. we have it and our likely republican category. polls have shown that demings is

and not with rubio, but there is a reluctance to make a heavy investment in florida on the democratic side because it is so expensive. there are so many media markets and the cost of running a race there is tough. democrats have only won one statewide race over the last decade, that is the commissioner race that nikki freed won 4 years ago. if this were a great democratic year, i think florida could come more into play, but with the republican lien of the state, governor desantis likely to win that the top of the ticket, i think demings has a tough road. host: that gave me enough time to pull up this story from the courier-journal. " amy mcgrath spent more than $90 million in her failed senate bid," that was against mitch mcconnell, correct? guest: correct. i talked about the frustration

of how much money she raised and spent, and it didn't go to other races. i don't think that it is a zero-sum game. some donors saw her video on social media, and they wanted to give to her. it was not that they decided they had a $50 check and they decided to send it to amy mcgrath. the thinking is if amy mcgrath can't win in kentucky spending $90 million, then what is it going to take and where else can that money be spent? host: i sign article yesterday, the expectation that there will be $1 billion spent in campaign ads over these last 30 days. guest: $1 billion total in the cycle seems low! in the last 30 days seems right. we have to remember that what

iss being spent in senate races now is what we used to spend four presidential races. host: to rapid city, south dakota, dennis, good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. i do not know what age this guy is, but he needs an education about democracy. i already voted, so i am not going to tell anybody how to vote. on this next friday, the cuban missile crisis is what i am talking about. i was in missouri at basic training. i had just heard the latino's version of how they are going to vote, which is their own business. why would they vote for somebody trying to destroy cuba? i and the same may just the president, sir.

i have been in 48 states. i do not need you to tell me how to vote. do you know what is wrong with this country? it is corporate welfare. host: are you trying to tell people how to vote? guest: never! dennis, thank you for your service. i think you have tapped into an issue republicans are talking about. republicans are talking about. crime is within that, but are you more or less safe with republicans in control? that is one of the issues we are seeing play out in ads all over the country. when you are in charge, you are held responsible for what is going on, and right now it feels like any crime that happens is the following on democrat shoulders. host: what is your mission at

inside elections? guest: where -- we are finding the most competitive races in the country, thinking about who is going to win. we do not endorse candidates. we do not endorse specific policies. i love it when folks try to say we are trying to favor one candidate or another. we literally do not benefit at all from trying to help one party win. if that means we are wrong. we are trying to get things right! this is a humbling occupation. host: how many folks do you have working at inside elections? guest: we have a small but robust team. joseph and aaron are our reporters and analysts. i want to give a shout out to to

matthew and bradley, and we cannot forget about will tailor. host: how many election cycles have you been trying to do this? guest: i want to thank dennis for thinking i am younger! 2002 was my first cycle doing this. host: have been having you on c-span to talk through a lot of the cycles. insideelections.com is where you can find their work. guest: glenn is in honolulu, independent line. go-ahead. glenn may not be up! we will go to kathleen in mississippi, line for democrats. go ahead. caller: good morning. democracy and dobbs -- i have

been here my whole life. it gets redder, redder, and redder. biden is doing better. at one-time we could not vote or wear pents. -- pants. you live your whole life and do you have nothing accomplished for it, because they take everything you get. $868 a month and i got medicaid. i can get my eyes checked, i can get my teeth pulled, i can get transportation, but a red state -- they don't take medicaid!

we are doomed. if by then don't help ukraine, we are doomed -- biden don't help ukraine, we are doomed. host: all -- guest: people are bringing their own experiences to the table and making a different judgment about what is important to them! democrats, in particular, are talking about democracy. some of that is helped by the fact that there are a number of republican candidates on the ballot who were here on january 6 at the capitol. the potential threat to the system or to our democratic small-d this to him --

small-d system gets crowded out by inflation, gas prices, cost-of-living, but we will see as we get past this election, whether some of the concerns about the democratic process come to fruition through this election. i no democrats feel frustrated because it does not seem to seep through as much as the -- i know democrats feel frustrated because it does not seem to seep through as much as the economic issues. host:host: nathan gonzales is wh us. we will look for your texts and tweets as well. on the issue of january 6, there is another select committee

hearing on thursday of this week. i wonder, that issue, how is that involved and how have the hearings played into that? guest: it is in a few select ads, particularly if the candidate or nominee was here in some form. on a bigger scale, i think the investigation and public hearings have brought it more to the forefront. it has made this election a little more of a choice election. this is typically a referendum. we talked about that at the beginning. voters and people consistently hearing about what happened, not just at the capitol but around the country, ways to subvert electoral process and counting of the ballots, it was instructive.

i know republicans want to dismiss it and say no one was watching. for prime time, the ratings were pretty good. don't know specifically if it was solidifying democratic voters and what they already thought. i think it is a reminder to people they are also electing another party. they might get frustrated with democrats and want to vote out democrats, but they are voting in another party. that makes it more complicated, particularly for republicans who only want to stay focused on biden, gas prices, and crime. host: from new york, your next. -- you are next. caller: what do you think about the gubernatorial race in new york? it seems elden is losing on crime. a lot of people right-leaning seem to be leaving for florida.

do you think they will increase in florida and decrease in new york? it seems she is losing on crime. guest: we believe the governor has the edge over lee zelden. i don't know if we have the voting data to say whether he is winning or losing those governors. new york is still a democratic state where he will have the advantage. i think dobbs helped galvanize the democratic party. it may democrats more conscious about making sure they vote for democratic candidates because of the urgency of dobbs and because of what other states have done to restrict access to abortion.

new york wants to elect a democrat under almost all circumstances. it got harder for lee zeldin to win. host: if you look at the tossup races right, there is a lot of blue in the tossup category. which one do you want to talk about? guest: i am biased toward oregon. that is where i grew up. thankfully, where i grew up, it not only includes the new york governor's race but also the sixth district, one of the most competitive house races in the country. this governor's race is fascinating because there is a prominent third-party candidate,

betsy johnson, a former state senator. she was kind of considered the joe manchin of the senate for a while. she is running as an independent. it is remarkable when you look at the statewide polling and how the government's race -- governor's race is playing out in the three competitive districts, it is almost always the same. that is where it is locked. that is why we have consistently improved republican chances in our ratings because of that consistency. oregon has not had a republican governor since i believe 1980. we are talking ronald reagan being president the last time we had a republican governor. because johnson is lowering the threshold drayson needs to win,

that is helping those chances. 40% or less is a path to victory. host: nancy in houston, independent, good morning. caller: good morning. i am so tired of you guys talking about january 6. you never talk about the riots that went on for two years. they burned federal buildings, they burn houses, they burned businesses. nobody ever talks about that. they tried to kill people. they tore up our streets. when are you going to talk about the riots that took place for two years?! guest: let's talk about it. we have talked about crime being a top issue on the republican side and included in that is the riots. we see footage of those in

republican ads. part of it is remarkable to me that the violence did happen when we had a republican president. we will skip past that. these are issues democrats -- democratic candidates are viewed with those sort of activities, they will lose. we are seeing some of those things play out. let's go back to oregon for example. republicans believe they are doing better in these races in oregon because of the situation in portland. whether it is the problem of homelessness or crime, that is giving them a chance in these places. we are also looking at a place like minnesota's second district where congresswoman angie craig is running in a rematch.

this includes twin cities suburbs. does crime in minneapolis matter in the race? it is an open question. it is a topic and we are talking about it. host: michigan, ricky, democrat, good morning. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, good morning -- caller: good morning. i'm tired of the republican party always wanting to blame stuff on democrats. the democrats did not try to overrun our government. the republican party tried to overrun our government. we don't have no maga democrats like the republicans have the maga ones that want to change different laws to hurt the people. this is the thing they don't know. the same light they want to hurt democrats, it is going to come back and hurt -- the same way

they want to hurt democrats, it is going to come back and hurt republicans. when they get hurt or somebody else get hurt, you can blame the republican party for it. host: go ahead. guest: the person that came to mind is, after each election, i think it is important we listen to the politicians. sometimes if you listen to politicians too long, that might not be good for your health. but we have to listen to them because they will tell us what they think happened in the election and why voters sent us here to washington. if republicans do well this cycle, they are set up to do well, we will see what republicans do on the legislative angle and on investigations, where they go with investigations. if they go too far either legislatively or in investigating. folks, there will be -- investigating folks, there will be a backlash creek we will have another election where voters

say that is not what we wanted. hopefully, our electoral system, there is a correction for a party that comes into office and then what they are doing does not match up with what people want. i think we could see that again if republicans do not understand this election is not about what they want to do. this election is more about voters' frustration with the current state of the country and economy. host: arizona a key state this cycle. let's go to scottsdale, allen, republican, good morning. caller: good morning. good morning, c-span. the news cycle is not about what they say. it is about what they don't say. when it comes to abortion, it is a fact that the millions and millions of babies that were boarded were not -- aborted were

not aborted because of -- we don't know the exact numbers of women for a health scenario. it is left out completely. is it 1% of the 60 million or 80 million? it has been taken out. not american citizens anymore? the news does not give you all of the facts. it is the same as with the millions of illegal aliens coming in and the crime rates going through the roof. we don't know the crimes being perpetrated in all of these cities, what the percentage of illegal aliens are pretty you never know if they are american citizens or illegal aliens. guest: i think hearing your

question and your thoughts, i think it is important for voters and people to try to diversify your media intake. john and i are sitting here in front of cameras so we are part of the media. the media is not perfect. the media does make choices about what it covers. if you are only watching one station, you are not just getting a different view of one particular issue, you might only be hearing about three or four issues. you watch another station and they might be covering three or four completely different issues. you are not completely normal because you are watching c-span with us this morning. but the extent to which you have time to diversify your media intake and maybe take a peek at a website or channel you don't agree with, it might give you more perspective and data on the issue than what you're talking

about. it is a good example of a complicated issue with lots of different factors, so folks should broaden their media intake a little bit. host: he has got c-span. do you watch much cable tv? guest: with four kids, i would not say cable news is at the top of viewing. i don't often have control of what we watch. we would probably end up on disney+ more than cable channels. host: another set of ads to throw at you. the south texas district, they are vying for the seat. here is the ad. [video clip] >> monica de la cruz would let government make your health decisions. she would ban abortion even in the case of rape and incest.

she is too extreme. >> i approve this message. host: from the other side, this is one of de la cruz's ads. [video clip] >> no border, no enforcement, just anarchy. dangerous ideas. michelle gave them a platform hosting a border resistance event. she even promoted a benefit concert for the no borders movement. the border is the only thing keeping us from cartel chaos. keep michelle vallejo far from congress. guest: the first thing that comes to mind is, i wonder who played at the benefit concert? that is probably not relevant to this conversation. this is a district where

congress gonzalez decided not to run for reelection. he is running in another district. in this race, i think de la cruz has the advantage. this is a seat republicans should pick up. not just because of not having an incumbent but the growth in the narrowing of the hispanic margin. we expect de la cruz to win. if somehow de la cruz is not winning, republicans are having a worse night than expected and probably on the lower end of the range. host: you talk about redistricting. when everything was said and done, which party benefited more from the redistricting process? guest: i will tell you on november 9.

i love you, joan. i love the question. i get frustrated when we try to oil down only based on redistricting which party won because it is about more than that. it is about the candidates. host: the congressman decided to run in a different district because he thought he would do better. guest: there was the specific example of new york where democrats thought they had control of the process and drew up a map or they thought they would gain at least three seats out of new york alone. that ended up getting tossed out by the court. a special master drew the lines where it is much more precarious where they could gain seats if at all coming out of new york. there is -- there are specific things that have happened in redistricting that matter, but it is also hard to say just because of redistricting this or

that is going to happen. host: learning a lot more about special masters than i ever heard about. tampa, florida, richard, independent, good morning. caller: good morning. i used to be a registered democrat but changed a few years back. i was wondering, why are republicans so negative? they never have anything positive. they don't have an agenda. the races are so close. what is going on with that? guest: richard, hopefully you, your family, and community are doing better after the hurricane. our thoughts are still with you. we only know from afar what we saw happening. why are republicans so negative? the most jaded thing you might hear me say today is getting people angry or having a fear element in folks is a good way

to motivate people to vote. right now, having people fearful of the current state of where they are or the future under the democratic party control, that is the way to motivate voters. i will also say democrats are using fear as well. the whole issue of abortion, what are republicans going to do? are they going to institute a national, federal ban on abortion if they get into office? that is using fear as well. i would say republicans are not unique or exclusively using fear. in this case, both parties are using. host: any insights on ohio's senate race? will biden or obama help a candidate that? -- there? guest: i would say no. if i were ryan, i would find

other things to do if biden or obama wanted to come to the state. biden has come to the state multiple times. ryan is running a great race. the other has one of the underwhelming campaigns whose primary. brian still might win but republicans believe -- ryan still might win but republicans believe their ads on tim ryan are working that ohioans republican leaning will eventually come home. the clock is ticking in terms of how close we are to election day. the other thing i will say about ohio is republicans are having to spend millions just holding the seat in ohio that they already have with senator portman who is not running. they rather be spending that money on offense in washington, new york, or colorado? but they have to keep their own

seats before they go on the offensive to get to the majority mess. -- mass. host: north carolina, republican, go ahead. caller: good morning. i would like to ask nathan a follow-up to the woman who called from texas about the constant barrage of january 6, january 6. why don't you election analysts talk about the 2000 mules? there's lots of video evidence of people stuffing ballot to take the election. there is a blackout from the media. all you guys want to do is talk about january 6. i think it was very revealing where you are leaning when you tell the woman from texas the ryan zinke 20 -- riots in 2020 happened under trump's watch. clearly, it is the left-wing

liberals hating trump. you guys have to be more fair. i don't think you have any clue what is coming in the november election. i predict a massive landslide from republicans -- fort republicans from the independent side. host: how many seats are you thinking, joe, in the house and senate? any predictions? caller: i say senate will be 52-48 republicans. i say the house, we will gain 50 seats. guest: it is a big number. ultimately, we will have results and see what happens. i don't want to get too much into 2000 mules. i think some of the video evidence put forward, i don't believe some of the folks who are the alleged mules, that there is evidence of people

returning to the same ballot box . i don't think we are going to agree on that specific issue. host: birmingham, alabama, bolivia, democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. first of all, to the woman in texas and the man that just hung up. you know why about the rights just happened? because a black men, george floyd, had a white police officer that murdered this man. that is why he is serving time in prison right now for killing this black men. that is what the riots were about. what happened on january 6, our democracy states, i am a black woman that lives in a very recent state, birmingham, alabama. mr. gonzales, i am sorry. republicans are running a fear

campaign. they're talking about race, crime, and we are black people. we are beautiful black people, white people, asian americans, but we have evil in this world. let's be real with this conversation. i am a black woman. we fought for freedom in this country! i come from a very racist state in alabama. very racist. dr. king said we can capture stuff. host: you said you wanted to ask a question. we are running short on time. caller: you are thinking black people will come out. i have been in the nielsen ratings sometimes and never got called out.

what about young people is going to vote? host: we will take the question, what about polls? guest: i think polls are imperfect but still helpful tools in looking at elections. your comments and call are a good reminder there is a chance the polls are underestimating democratic enthusiasm and support. we've gone through 2016 and 2020 where we are talking about trump voters not showing up in the polls. i think there is a chance post dobbs or with the democracy questions and concerns that you have that we are underestimating democrat support. that enthusiasm will show up on election day. elections and trying to project what is going on is humbling because we are not always correct in everything.

i still think polls can be helpful. if i can go back to joe's call, no one has yet explained to me, we are talking about georgia now, why a republican governor, republican secretary of state, republican election officials, wanted to apparently help joe biden win the election. no one has yet explained to me. you can have videos. no one has explain to me why people who supported trump in the election were doing things behind the scenes to help biden win. it does not make sense to me. host: five minutes left in the segment. we have not gotten to herschel walker and raphael warnock. take us through the latest. guest: i think georgia could be heading for a runoff that decides control of the senate. that is what happened two years ago.

host: explain why georgia has runoff. guest: in november, if no candidate gets to 50%, it moves to a december 6 runoff. it will not be in january. between warnock and walker, they have each been consistently under 50%. we may have to wait for the final results before we know which party controls it. one thing i will say about walker and the most recent revelations is that i don't know it disqualifies him from office because we have seen lots of candidates with different baggage. this brings it so close. it is not take a lot to shift who is going to win. if walker experiences some slight slip in the polls, in his support, that will help senator warnock win another term. host: republican senators to

rally in georgia for herschel walker after the abortion claims. that would be senator rick scott, chairman of the committee, and senator tim kotten, the republican from arkansas. guest: we are a month away from the election. you have to ride with him i guess. ultimately, where republicans are, even if they don't agree with everything walker has done, control of the senate is at stake. that is what they have prioritized when it comes to this election. host: montana, this is earl, independent, good morning. caller: good morning. i just have to ask a couple questions. do we live in a democracy or republic? if the government is for the people, of the people, by the

people? that is my question. goodbye. guest: i think that is one of the tour issues at stake. it is not an issue we are seeing in campaign ads. we are seeing different perspectives in terms of states rights and who has the right to elect our president. we are seeing this play out in a different way behind the scenes. these elections matter. we have been talking about house and senate races. state legislatures matter. thick legislatures may have even more power and influence over what happens in the future. host: aurora, colorado, independent line, go ahead,

daniel. caller: i want to point out briefly, i understand and can appreciate the values between the left and right as far as the issues that may be near and dear to the voting constituencies. [static] anyways. [static] host: daniel, i am sorry. your phone is breaking up. we have about a minute left. i was thinking about trying to find two more different candidates. joseph callow and william jefferson. guest: louisiana. that was a good example talking about missteps. i thought when the fbi finds cash in your freezer that you would lose reelection. actually, congressman jefferson, everyone can google this, he did

not. he won the first election after that happened. he lost the next election where a republican won a democratic seat under those conditions. that is a good one. host: we are going back to 2008. guest: it all starts to blur together. it had been a while. host: as always, i appreciate it, nathan gonzales, editor and publisher of "inside elections." thank you. later this morning, a discussion on the women-led protests in iran. we will be joined by narges but jolie -- bajoghli. the numbers are on the screen. start calling in now and we will

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>> "washington journal" continues. host: it is our open forum. it is your time to lead the conversation. the number for republicans, democrats, independents. as you are calling in, one interesting obituary, david beckwith, who scored a scoop for time magazine when he reported the roe v. wade ruling hours before it was officially announced, a seat that gained new attention this year after the draft was leaked and advanced, died october 2 at his home in austin, texas. he was 79 years old. some context to the scoop he got in 1973. by january of that year, he knew

a decision was imminent and began writing an article to examine the abortion issue more broadly for millions of viewers. he says i was completely aware of the decision was likely to come out on monday or tuesday and we would not have anything to give the readers that week. at a source's request, they held off on publishing until after january 17, 1973, when the decision was scheduled to be announced. when chief justice hornberger unexpectedly delayed the release , mr. beckwith had the news all to himself for a few hours. last week, time learned about the revelation. he says no decision in the court's history has evoked the

intensity of emotion that will surely follow this ruling. david beckwith, 79, who scooped the supreme court on roe died on october 2. now, your phone calls. it is our open forum. michelle in oklahoma, democrat, good morning. caller: yes. first time i have ever called because i'm outraged by your guest, mr. gonzales, who said that in georgia, kemp and rathensburger helped joe biden win. host: that is not what he was saying. he was saying, why would they help? for people who would say the election is read, he was asking, why would they help joe biden win the election? he was asking that question. caller: i know, but to me

sitting here watching like everyone else, it sounded like he said they helped. i think he did say that. then he later said, why would they? but he started out with -- host: that was the question he was asking for people who argue the other side, he would like them to answer that question. just to leave that where it is. dell in michigan, republican, good morning. it is our open forum. caller: hello, hey, i was watching c-span this morning about 4:00 a.m. there was a woman, i believe her name was kim winston, and she worked for starbucks. i was surprised you would have somebody from a private -- i don't normally see that on c-span -- somebody from a private corporation. i normally see people from think tanks and nonprofits and maybe

columnists. i did not watch very much of it. she was describing i think the proper way to take the lid off of a cup of coffee. is it typical for you guys to have -- host: was is the event we aired from the congressional black caucus voting rights form at which she appeared? that event, you can watch in its entirety. we tape a lot of these public policy events around washington, around the country, so various speakers at all of these events. is that the event that you are watching from september 30, a re-air of that event? i think we lost the caller. you can find that event at c-span.org. the caller was talking about i believe kim winston. you can type in her name at the

top of the page and you can see all of the events she has appeared in that we have aired. michael in missouri, good morning. caller: yes, thank you for taking my call. i would like to bring up the issue that should be at the forefront of everybody's mind. that is the mental acuity of joe biden. isimply don't understand why of the news media is taking a look at this and pointing it out to the american people. we have seen president biden make several gaffes and misstatements. he's wandering around on stage. he never comes out and takes any direct questions from the press. i think that should be at the forefront of everybody's mind. he is leading [indiscernible] he's really not leading the world, but he is supposed to be leading the world and he is

nowhere to be found and nobody seems to point this out. host: michael in missouri. this is anna from texas. what is on your mind? caller: i'm going to say about the man who just talked about jill biden, i am 74 years old and guess what? i don't remember anything, but i have kids that don't remember everything. i will stick with the man who might have a few problems with mental illness. the other one is the border. i am so sick and tired of the border, people talking in other states about the border. greg abbott took $211 million from mental illness, $250 million from our state budget. trump took $1 billion from the

military to build a border, and it still is not built. the other one is the three men, all of them need to go. if you look at the commercial, the grid is still not fixed. the other is crime in texas because of guns. you've all become el paso -- uvalde, el paso, and san antonio where people were gunned down. i listened to some of the hispanics on the first topic that was talked about talking about republicans are the greatest. i am voting for three republicans prayed one for district attorney, one for constable, and one for [indiscernible] yes, i listen to all channels. i love c-span. right after you leave on monday morning, i listen to the house, so thank you very much for

listening to me. i am sorry if i am ranting. it just makes you sick to your stomach when people talk about -- and you have older people in other countries who can lead the country, have the same problems, but here in america, i have got to have a youngster. the youngsters are not doing anything. margaret taylor and gates and all that crowd, they can tell you. you can throw in a.o.c., too. thank you very much. host: james comer line for democrats, out of philadelphia -- james, one for democrats -- the line for democrats out of philadelphia, good morning. caller: i'm calling about the senate race for pennsylvania. it is true i am a democrat. he's not even from pennsylvania

and he literally moved here a few months ago. he does not even understand the issues of pennsylvania. if you ask dr. oz what the minimum wage is in pennsylvania, he would not be able to answer that. why would someone from pa put their vote behind somebody that could care less about the state they are running for. that is number one. number two, i wanted to talk about herschel walker. how much of a hypocrite can anybody be to have this stance on abortion, meaning he is totally against abortion, but this young lady has proven he paid for her abortion. he asked her to get an abortion twice, and she has a child by him that he recognizes. all over the media, they are continuously putting out this line that he is calling her a liar.

what is happening in georgia now, the republicans would have done better putting o.j. simpson up as their senate candidate. it is ridiculous. at least you know o.j. simpson's feelings. host: this is the front-page story, the battle for the senate intensifies amidst a tumultuous midterm campaign. the pictures of the capitol and candidates on the campaign trail as we hear from mark in hackensack, new jersey, independent, good morning. caller: good morning. two points, please. number one, there are currently over 300 americans being killed every day because of fentanyl and other drugs. biden and the democrats are knowingly letting over our border. number two, a father of three in new york who was visiting his

son at college was murdered because the new york democrats and the governor have been releasing violent criminals. he was murdered because of that veil, low cash bail. by the way, to the caller who spoke about philadelphia, the governor plans to release one third of the prison population if he gets elected. let to them. host: indiana, democrat, good morning, you are next. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. longtime viewer. i love this show. it is my favorite. thank you for c-span and c-span2 and 3. i wanted to talk about the economy. some people say we have deflation. i would not consider this to be inflation. i consider inflation when the

dollar is evaluated -- de valuated and it cost more to buy stuff. i think the dollar on the world market is very strong. i hear commercials saying come and visit other countries. we just cannot afford airline flights. i think it's more about price gouging. i heard somebody call in on it one time. back in 2020, gas was less than $2 a gallon. it was like $1.50 or something, and we thought it was great. i thought it was because of covid-19 because that is all that was in the paper in 2020. i came to find out when someone called in and i checked it out that russia and opec were having a price war over oil.

the price of oil plummeted. that is why gas was so cheap. totally missed that because of the covid thing. the thing that distressed me that i found out also was president trump or donald trump at the time brokered a deal between russia and opec that ended the price war which would raise the price of oil. he also got them to agree to cut production by 9.7 million barrels a day, about 10% of the total world output. i was wondering, why would he do that? that is not in our interest. we were doing great with cheap gas. host: what is the price of gas in east chicago right now? caller: it has gone back up to about $.05.

it hit a low of about $3.80. right before elections, the price is going up. total coincidence, i guess. host: he was mentioning c-span2 and c-span3. today, 24 hours of book television. on c-span3, you can watch 24 hours of history television. time for one more call in this open forum. ivanhoe, virginia, republican, go ahead. caller: yes. i am concerned with the people saying we are going to lose our democracy if this election does

not go towards one way or the other. in reality, we stand a chance losing our democracy in washington, d.c., where they are trying to make it legal for noncitizens to vote. i don't understand how that is not being talked about. i would like someone to research that and put doubt on the screen for people to hear. if we are going to lose our democracy to allow illegal immigrants or uncertified citizens to vote, i don't think they have america's best interest in mind. host: that call from virginia. our last caller in this segment. next, a discussion on the women-led protests in iran and the challenges for the islamic republic. that discussion with narges

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our free mobile out or wherever you get your podcasts. >> "washington journal" continues. host: narges bajoghli joy just to talk about the ongoing protests in iran over women's rights. she is a professor of middle east studies at johns hopkins. take viewers back to the catalyst for these protests three weeks ago. for folks who have not been watching, explain what happened and who she was. guest: sure. she was a 22-year-old young woman who was visiting tehran with her family. she gets off at a metro station and is walking with her brother and a parent gets called over by iran's so-called morality police, it is a police force that has been around and they policewomen on how they dress or

if they see things they think are immoral, they go up and talk to people or arrest them. they took her into the police station. she collapses. they have to take her out on a stretcher. i journalist takes a picture of her as she goes to the hospital. she ends up in a coma two or three days before she passes away. during the time she is in a coma before she passes away, her name, mahsa amini, becomes viral enron. people -- viral in iran. when the news of her death comes, the anger spills out onto the streets. iranians are extremely angry because the current president who came into power august of 2021, a little over a year ago, he comes from a very conservative part of the

political establishment, a very religious part of the establishment. even though in society they were moving towards not enforcing veiling as much even though compulsory veiling is the law, as he has come into power, he has brought the morality police more and more onto the streets and has given them broader mandates to crack down on what they to be un-proper veiling. people have been fed up. they have been on the streets going into the fourth week. women are burning their headscarves. they are showing up outside without them on. the central slogan of the protests is "women, life, freedom." it is a kurdish slogan chanted during her funeral. that quickly became a national rallying cry. what we are seeing in rhyme going into the fourth week now our protests led by women and

young people on the streets confronting the security police with their bodies and refusing to comply with what they see to be unjust laws that target predominantly women in society. host: in writing recently for "vanity fair," you said what struck you once it was both ordinary and extraordinary at the same time. what did you mean by that? guest: when you see this kind of uprising that takes over the nation and it spreads to different areas of the country, this means it is tapping into something much deeper. people are responding to the ordinariness of the fact these morality police exist on the street and women have been policed for 40 years over the way they dress when they come

outside. it is an everyday experience that has caused so much anger and humiliation for a lot of women in society. it is the ordinariness of the way she got picked up by police but also the extraordinary fact women have to live with this reality. it is a combination of the continuing disbelief that this is what they have to face along with the fact this is an everyday occurrence. they are showing through the protests they are fed up with the ordinariness of being policed in this way. host: narges bajoghli will be with us until the end of the program for the next 35 minutes or so taking your questions and comments as we talked about the protests in iran, women's rights in iran. in the eastern or central time zones [no audio]

not more pacific time zones. the special line for iranian americans. start calling in on those phone lines. i want to focus on women leading the protests right now. the history of women-led protests in iran and the importance of this one in particular. guest: yeah, so, there was a popular revolution in iran in 1979 that toppled the monarchy and brought about what eventually becomes the iranian republic. the person leading the revolution was a clerk. about three weeks after he arrived, women began to protest because he made it evident they were going to roll back some of the loss before that protected

women's rights and that there was a desire to institute compulsory hijabs. women began to protest on international women's day in 1979. that is the first instance of different groups coming together starting to say this is not the revolution that we fought for. fast forward throughout these 40 years, different variations of the women's movement have been the biggest thorn in the side of the islamic republic. they've been active the past four decades trying to push back various restrictions placed on women including the laws on custody and inheritance and so on and so forth. and in the everyday actions of women and young people on the streets, they have also been pushing back against the form of unveiling -- veiling the state

wants to impose. they keep pushing back the veil and wearing more revealing clo thes. there are everyday acts of resistance and organized groups. iran now has a majority young population. there been huge baby boom generation's that have come after the revolution. the majority of the population in iran is young. they do not remember the revolution. this is about laws they did not have a say in the creation of. now they are saying we don't agree with these laws and the focus on restrictions of different forms of freedom. what we are seeing is women have been leading this charge. women have been at the forefront

of protests in iran for many years. in the uprising, women were many demonstrations. in this protest, we see it much more than any of the protests before. also, significantly now, it is very young people on the street. what we would term generation z. you have a lot of teenagers and folks in their young 20's leading the protests confronting the security forces and brave manners we have not seen in this level of protests before in iran. host: how big of a threat to the regime do you view these protests? is this something the regime -- is a something that could topple the regime? guest: what is happening on the streets today is extremely significant because -- for a couple reasons. one is it is spanning across

different sectors of society. you not have folks from the religious and conservative ends of society also saying we don't want the compulsory element of this. for the women who want to wear the hijab, let them where it -- wear it. this is an this is spanning the political spectrum in iran, to those who are coming out in support of changing these laws. but the other component of this that makes this really significant is that now you have an everyday form of resistance, which is the compulsory veil that all women have to wear every day, and that is now a symbol of civil disobedience. so it is something that even as the state continues to crack down violently as it has in the past three weeks, women come on the streets without the veil on, or are learning the veil in the

proceed toast, so it has unleashed an every day form of protest, but it's going to be very, very difficult for the regime to sort of in the long term crack down on. now, will this lead to the toppling of the regime tomorrow or next week? no. because this is -- for a political revolution to take place, there needs to be much more in place. there needs to be -- and it also takes much longer than three weeks or four weeks to topple a regime that's been around hoe years. even with the revolution in 1979 happened in iran, it took over a year and a half in the very least for the movement to gain such steam in which then it eventually toppled the monarchy. what will happen in the future, it's difficult to tell, because there's a lot of dynamics in play here. but this is a very serious

narrative threat to the islamic republic in the sense that they are having a very difficult time figuring out how to respond to this beyond repression. and this is something that, especially yesterday, protests continue despite the severe repression that the state is enacting right now on the street. people are showing that the repression is not at least in the moment scaring them enough back home. there are still people coming into the streets in some cities around the country, shopkeepers closed their doors, they went on a strike yesterday, and so there are different dynamics at play here, but this is a revolutionary moment in the sense that it is putting women's demands at the forefront of a national demand for change. that is significant in a place like iran, but it's also significant for our politics in today's world more generally to have a whole nation rise up for

women's rights in essence. host: a professor at johns hopkins, taking your phone calls in this last segment. "washington journal" this morning. again, phone lines split regionally, and then we have a special line in the segment for iranian-americans. that number, 202-up 48-0883. this is will in l.a. good morning. caller: good morning to you both. first i'd like to say i live in west laugh, which is next to santa monica. and yesterday there was a very massive protest on third street. i didn't realize how massive this issue was. i know there's a large community here, but word wide, as i was talking to a few people there,

they were saying the media is not concentrating enough on this, and they would like to have more celebrities, well known political figures, the obamas, oprah, people like that. is there any type of outreach to get more support like that, and also what kind of success do you think you'll have as far as overturning the regime? and thank you for taking my call. guest: those are great questions. thank you for them. the question of traditional media not covering this, this has been a big issue and something that a lot of iranians have been focusing on. this has not been getting the coverage that many deem it needs to get. now, what's really significant here is that that's true, the traditional media was not covering this, but it went viral, not only in iran, but it started to go viral internationally by a lot of young people and women around the world. so there is a strong

international solidarity component to this movement. one is because we're seeing young people on the forefront of this demanding the right to bodily autonomy, and this is an issue that is becoming increasingly important for women all over the world, different form of restrictions in the form of laws about bodily autonomy, who gets to choose over a woman's right to choose, whether it's on reproductive justice or how she dresses or who she is and how she presents herself in society. as it's more a viral moment, we're having to have the conversation like we're having today and also media outlets have also begun to cover these protests. host: on that coverage issue, i don't think you can see it on your screen, but we're going to show the lead editorial in today's "new york times," full page there, the brave women of iran deserve more u.s. support

is what the editorial board writes. there must be a show of solidarity with the valiant protesters there. that's for readers of the "new york times" today. guest: yeah, so as internet users all over the world are continuing to have this be viral, it's forcing journalists and editors and producers to take notice and to then talk about it. that kind of viral support on the internet has been very important to this, in addition to that, as your caller mentioned, there have been for the past two weeks, past two weekend, many protests in solidarity around the world with what's been going on. last weekend the numbers were about 50,000 people who showed up last weekend, which was a very big for that demonstration there. so this has been happening, as your caller said in los angeles and many places all around the

world, it's the iranian diaspora that have been calling folks into action on these protests. and they are important to -- because the iranian regime is shutting down the internet. so they don't want more and more videos of this to come out in order for this to continue to, a, be a viral story, and b, for it to be something that they're trying to shut down the internet to quell this on the ground. so this kind of viral solidarity has been extremely important because it is showing both those who are protesting in iran that the world is paying attention, and it's also making this a more global conversation so that it is something that they cannot just repress and pretend to ignore what's going on in the country. i think those were the main questions. host: no, i think you covered it. we've got katherine from st. joseph, michigan. katherine, good morning to you.

caller: good morning to both of you. i'm just a little confused about all these protests. you hear in the united states of america, you work at one of our american universities. why protest here in america? how is that going to help your country, or the country over there? i mean, this should be your country now. i don't know how protesting here is going to help over there. host: i'll let narges bajoghli jump in. she's with the johns hopkins school of advanced international studies, a professor there, but go ahead. guest: yes, thank you for your call. this is my country as much as yours, and i agree with you that, you know, we have to be sort of thinking about these issues in a more global sense.

so when we are talking about protests that happen in one place around issues of injustice, and then people in other places around the world show solidarity to that, part of what they're doing is they're saying to the people who are protesting in one country that we hear you, and we also are standing with you in your struggle. the other thing to happens for the caller is that many, many women in the united states, especially actually have been very much at the forefront, american women who have no tie to iran have been at the forefront of pushing this question into the viral moment that we are in. and why is that? it's because we recognize the global nature of the forces that we're fighting against, and part of that is the increase in movements and the increase in laws that are about restricting women 80's bodies. they understand that this is something that iranian women

have been fighting over for 40 years in iran, but they see the connections, too, when we allow that kind of repression to exist somewhere about the restrictions and don't show up in solidarity for it, that means that when we then have certain laws come on our bodies, to restrict our freedoms, we would like for that to be a global issue, because pate arky and the control over our bodies is a global issue. so again, yes, it's important, and it's about iran, but this is also the issue that women in iran are fighting for right now, a much more global issue about the restrictions of women's bodies, and that's why women around the world and people who are concerned about women's freedoms around the world are showing solidarity to this. host: pat, new jersey, you're on with narges bajoghli.

caller: how effective will these pretests be? just in iran itself, if the men of iran don't join in, because in islam, women are subservient to men, it's part of their religion. what are they going to do about that? thank you. guest: so actually the protests, men have been side by side women or standing right behind them in all of these. this is what makes the protest movement so incredibly unique to watch at this moment. it's not just women who are on the streets yelling women, life, freedom, which is the central slogan, and it's not just women standing up to the security guards, the security sort of establishment that they're cracking down on these protests, it's men, young boys, school boys, university boys, university young men, as well as men into their middle ages and even elderly men that we're seeing on the streets, standing up in solidarity with women.

this is why this movement is so significant for the world, because it's showing that in order for restrictions on women's bodies and in order for freedom for women to be achieved, it is something that men have to very toughly also engage in. what we're seeing is very active engagement on behalf of men across different sectors of society that are standing not only in solidarity, but also putting their bodies on the lines as the security forces are repressing. host: can we come back to the morality police and the incident that started this? who are the people who are part of the morality police? where do they come from? do they have military powers? do they carry weapons? what can you tell us about that? guest: it's a force that's tied

to the police force within the country. you know, it's tied to sort of the policing forces of the society. they do have weapons on them. usually mostly, if they use anything, it would be batons. but they also use their hands. you know, they can get violent with their hands. they say that they're not supposed to, but we all know that they do. they abuse their powers all the time. and so who are the folks who are members of the morality police? they tend to ran the gamut. some of them are ideological believers in the system and in enforcing ideological commitment to the revolution and to the islamic republic. others of them, though, are in this because they are getting a monthly salary, and the way that those folks who are in it get trained, who are not necessarily

in this for the ideological reasons, is that what gets played on a lot during their training are the socioeconomic divisions of society. so for them, they get trained in, like, these women for example are wearing their hijabs incorrectly and look at the fancy clothes that they wear. they're playing on class divisions a lot in these kinds of trainings. so videotape a combination of foes folks who believe ideologically and how women should come on the streets and what morality should be in society, as well as folks who are taking a salary and being explode in different ways. but nonetheless, the fact is that the state is touring and has been more many years resources into a police force that is predominantly occupied with policing women 80's bodies and young people on issues of so-called morality, that the state gets to define. host: out to the virgin islands.

this is darryl, good morning, you're on. caller: good morning. i do agree that there is a need for the mental changes for muslim women globally. but my question is to what extent is the protest about and why would muslim women want to expose themselves and give up their hijab going against the basis of islam? but is giving up their job and shortening their clothes really and truly, if they're still considered -- if the women still consider themselves muslim, is that helping their cause? thank you. guest: that's a great question. so women in iran who have been protesting have been very, very clear that this is not about religion. this is about having the choice over their often bodies. and so what you see, you have a

lot of photographs coming out of the street protests of women in full covering who are standing side by side women who are taking off their hijabs. because religious women are also coming out and are saying we believe in the choice to wear this. women who are taking off their hijab are saying we believe in the choice to wear this. so those who want to wear it, wear it. those who do not want to wear it, do not wear it. this is not a fight over religion. this is a fight over a state that is utilizing and manipulating religion in order to enact laws to suppress women's rights. so again, this is why i think this has created so much solidarity around the world. because people are understanding that this is about fundamentally women's rights to choose over their bodies. and the second part of your question about the western

backing of it, this is a movement that before it even became viral around the world was viral within iran, when no one was paying attention to this issue, it had already become viral and protests had already started. and this takes on -- and picks up on protests and every day forms of resistance that iranian women and young people have been took for over 40 years, actually taking off the hijab began to become a form of civil disobedience, began to become part of a movement in 2017, when i'm not minimum takes, when a young woman went on top of a utility box, took off her scarf, tied it to a branch of a tree, and waved it very silently. pictures of her doing that in&video of her doing that went viral on iranian social media. then other women began to copycat and do that as well. they arrested those women,

eventually they released them. but nonetheless, it planted the seed of how to protest against exuls a hijab in a way that enact civil disobedience to do so. the big takeaway is it's about the compulsion aspect. it's about the fact that all women must wear this in iran, so it is a fight over bodily autonomy, and women in iran have been very, very vocal about the fact that this is not about religion, this is about the freedom to choose those who want to wear it and those who do not. host: lisa from our twitter feed asks you this question. can you cite the differences in freedoms that the women in iran have versus the women who live in saudi arabia, lisa noting saudi arabia, one of our strongest middle east allies. guest: right, so yes, there are saudi arabia has had a very long

history of extremely strain gent laws against women, but what i don't want to get into is that debate over who has more strict laws against women. this is what women in iran are focusing on. it's not about a competition over who's worse or better. it's about the fundamental points that all bodies, including all women, including all clear people, have the right to choose over their own bodies. actually what we are also seeing in a place like iran and in the region now is that this slogan of women, life, freedom which comes from the kurdish feminist struggle, is now becoming a regional cry. women across the region are also protesting in solidarity, using women, life, freedom, and it's becoming a slogan that is beginning to catch on on a more international level as well.

the best way to answer a question like that is to say that pate remarky is a global issue. we see it manifested in different parts of the world, but we don't have nation states that don't have patriarchy enacted. in places have it much more he e severely. some others are less severe. but nonetheless, the fact that society, that they are able to enact laws or enact cultural norms that has make it ok to tell a woman how to dress or when to have babies, those are things that this movement is sort of cat alogging on a national stage, and it's showing a feminist struggle that is confrontational, that is saying we will no longer comply with these laws, and we will no longer comply with these norms. so that is what is at the heart of this, and that's what women

in iran are really struggling against and are showing and are giving us language for a much more global movement and understanding for women's rights right now. host: to california, this is shawn. thanks for waiting. caller: hi, good morning. please bear with me. i just get a little nervous when speaking. guest: no, please, go for it. caller: i am sitting up here this morning, i'm one of those californians, if i don't get up to watch, i am recording. however, i was looking this morning. it is very disturbing, and i've kind of been following this story under "democracy now" throughout the week, and same not quite understanding how us as americans, that we can say, as women, i'm speaking too as how we can say this doesn't have anything to do with us. these women that are over in another country, and they're fighting in their country,

they're not fleeing their country. they're not trying to go anywhere to build a different life. they're standing their ground, fighting in their country for what is right for them. and i agree. do not mix religion with the personal rights of their bodies. american women, we know we're in this battle right now. we just lost the first wave. please do not say that this doesn't have anything to do with us, and what i'm seeing, when men are grabbing on women, pushing women, women willing to beat on a woman, that's not right. how can you beat or hit a woman, and this is the body that carried you for nine to 10 months, to create you, nourish you? so all i wanted to do is call in a day, because it was tough trying to get in this morning, but i want to say, i'm a

supporter of all women of all countries, and we need to do things in all countries, south america, haiti, el salvador, and maybe this will stop people from having to migrate to another country am they need to stand their grounds and vote for the government they want, and that government needs to work for the people. thank you, ma'am, and keep on with your fight. i thank you very much. have a great day. guest: thank you for saying that. yeah, that was beautifully stated. i couldn't have said it better myself. i think your caller is pointing to the reason this has struck such a chord with women and young people all over the world, because what is going on right now around the world is that we see the concentration of power in more severe ways, whether by politicians, by militaries of different countries, and also by corporations. so we are living in a political moment in which there's a high concentration of power that is

not responding to the needs of the people in different places around the world. and we are seeing the rise of movements around the world that have at their forefront the desire to restrict the bodies of different people, whether they are women. and what we are seeing in iran is that population that has developed strategies over four decades about how to stand up and resist this kind of repressive power. what we're seeing on the streets now is an explosion of that in collective action. people were doing it on individual levels, and now we're seeing an exploding collective action, and i think one of the reasons that folks around the world are paying attention is because it is, as your caller rightly points it out, it is an example of how people, women, young people, can stand up to power and say we refuse to comply any longer, because we no longer view you as legitimate.

and that is something that i hope is something that all around the world folks are looking at and gaining ideas for, because it is a way of saying voting, beyond when those things stop working, we can use our bodies to stand up to power, and that's what people are responding to. host: just a couple of minutes left here in this program, about five minutes or so. here's a headline from the "l.a. times" on this. iranian women at home and abroad cut their hair to protest the death. why cutting hair as part of this? guest: because the islamic republic has said one of the reasons that they complement a exuls a hijab is because they say women's hair can cause feelings of arousal for men. so women as a form of protest, in addition to taking off their scarves, some have also been cutting their hair, because they're saying if it's these

pieces of hair that are causing so much stress, it making you so aroused in that way, then i'm cutting it off. it's another form of protest in addition to the burning of veils. host: orlando, florida, good morning, you're next. caller: this movement you guys are trying to do is the new regime that been there for over 40 years. is that a question you could answer as one? why are you guys trying to protest something that is not meant to be whole country, because there's terror. what we know for fact is people that is doing it, and why are we

protesting something that is not going to go away? host: you bring up a couple of things, and narges bajoghli, you have a visitor as well with you this morning. thanks for doing this. this is how zoom television works these days. we're used to visitors here. that question, is the end goal here to oust the regime? guest: so right now what we see on the streets of iran is that the central slogan is women, life, freedom. the other slogans you hear a lot of is down with the dictatorship and different forms of slogans that are about the islamic republic and against the islamic republic. so what you have is that you have a calling out of people on the streets who are saying we no longer deem your rule as

legitimate. what will this mean in the long term? the central slogan is about creating a politics that has women at the center of it. that, beyond the fact of whether it ends up changing in the immediate sense, laws, or the structure of the state, let's just put that aside for one second in order for me to say to have a national rallying cry that centers women and opens up the possibility to have politics that reimagine power in you is very important and significant, because it's about something different. now, about the question of the state. a lot of folks in iran are extremely frustrated, and they want things to change because they have tried through voting. they have tried through different forms of protest to have things change in iran, and the state has become more and more repressive over years. there's a lot of reasons for that that we don't have time to get into in this program. what people are saying is that we have tried. we've tried voting. we have tried protesting

peacefully. we have tried protesting nonpeacefully, and nothing changes. and so this is their way of saying we are out here showing you that we are done taking your laws and not pushing it back in your face. this is what happens in a society and a state in which the politicians and those at the top do not respond to the needs of the people. people begin to get more and more confrontational over time. this is part behalf we're seeing in this dynamic in iran today. host: we'll have to end it there. but come back again and talk to us down the road. narges bajoghli, professor at johns hopkins university's school of advanced international studies. hope you and your visitor there have a great day. guest: my daughter is here, thank you. thanks for having me. host: and that's going to do it for us this morning on the "washington journal." we'll be back tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern, 4:00 a.m.

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