♪ >> thanksgiving proclamation yesterday, president biden

encouraged the people the united states of america to join together and give thanks to the friends, family members, and strangers in a reflection of goodwill and unity. happy thanksgiving. we want to know what public policy issue will you discuss at the thanksgiving table. if you live in the eastern part, dial (202) 748-8000, mountain pacific, (202) 748-8001. you can also text us at (202) 748-8003. include your first name, city and state. you can also go to facebook. >> we will get to those

conversations in just a minute. or if you are not talking about policy, we will get to it in a minute. he studies civil discourse. this is what he said about the idea of people discourse and what it looks like in action. >> it is discourse that is intellectually engaged, not necessarily polite, but it is respectful. you have to make sure both parties agree to have a discussion. and that they recognize agreeing with each other is not a sign of respect, or disagreeing as a sign of disrespect.

i think you are understand of what i am coming from. and you have to be in a position to accept that from other people. they often think you are capable of understanding the truth as they see it. and hopefully you can come to a mutual understanding at the very least. all of this requires humility and that you go in as willing to learn as you are to teach. >> what should you not do during civil discourse? guest: there are a lot of things. name-calling of course is a terrible thing to do. i think a lot of people in our society today have a tendency to

assume that people that agree with them are -- that disagrees with them are misguided. while you are thinking about the we and the nation. people have different views about what is best for the community and that is where the disagreement comes in when trying to figure out what will actually be best for everybody. host: from last week, that was andrew joseph about civil discourse. this morning we want to know what public issue, if any will you be discussing at the kitchen table. and what will your approach be. ralph from new york.

caller: good morning and thank you for the washington journal. my union has always stood for civil rights and worker rights. i will be talking about worker rights and the act. not one republican will support working people. we will continue to fight to rebuild the working-class and middle-class. my union has always helped all workers out. host: will you have fellow union members at the table? guest: yeah, my son. host: will you have anyone that will disagree with you? guest: no. not too many people disagree because it is simple.

in the early 50's he talked about the course and that is what we need. host: how many years have you been in the union? guest: since 1976. host: how have you seen your salary increase over the years because of the union? guest: from our collective bargaining power it has increased but it is not about making higher wages. it is about having rights. due process of law and the workplace. goes well beyond the extra nickel. how are you doing right now? host: how are you doing right now with what you make and spending?

with the cost of thanksgiving dinner today. caller: we can't blame it on one person in this country. it is the supply of things. anywhere you look, things are held up. we just don't have the supply. host: check in new york. caller: good morning. happy turkey day. i would like to talk about the professor that was on here. i don't know how i am expected to have a civil conversation with a family member that would expose the instruction.

i don't know how you try to tame it. they should be accountable for that. but he did the right thing, how can you have a conversation about that? host: will there be anyone that disagrees with you? caller: it is just me and my ex-wife actually. talking to people in general like republicans in the park, they pretty much agree with me about the instruction and the mass shootings. host: kathy and new jersey. sadly the debate is over. no one is allowed to agree to disagree anymore.

we believe -- we will be watching football. advice on how to deal with friends and family with completely opposite political views. >> especially the aftermath of the election, what is your best advice or people dealing with friends and family who may have completely opposite political views? >> i think you are right that the national local divide and ugly rhetoric has trickle down into the workplace and family. that is problematic. it is can shooting to high levels of anxiety and depression and alienation. when there are people that used to be able to talk to and spend time with and they feel they can't, it is a more toxic time

in terms of that. what this book does is offer what science tells us helps. it boils it down to simple things. one thing i recommend is people are heading into thanksgiving, what they are fighting, the data is showing people are spending much less time together at thanksgiving. they are getting out of there as soon as they can. that shows people are anxious about it. my first recommendation is that all of us need to stop before we go to a thanksgiving dinner, a friend's house and reflect about what we want to have happen. do we want to get in there and be triggered?

or do we want to try and take a different path. engage in a different get -- way . simply asking yourself those questions and not wondering blindly into a situation is one way to head off a storm. host: peter coleman on the washington journal. this morning we are asking you what policy issue you will discuss at the thanksgiving table. here's kenneth in illinois with a text. we will be discussing the sanctity of protecting our votes. good morning to you. caller: these are excellent questions. the term, some people stick to politics.

but you don't have to necessarily have to do that. i would like to ask the questions, are you familiar with the thanksgiving holiday? how it began and how it became too what it is today? because we don't have to talk about the politics. it is not just turkey and cranberry sauce. people want to talk about those blankets wrapped in smallpox that they gave to the natives of the country for thinking them for helping for a tough winter and assisting with certain things that they were not familiar with. if people want to stay in politics that is fine. but what i find interesting is

it doesn't necessarily matter with the questions you ask, he will find that the response is going to tell you quickly if you are dealing within immature mind or a mature mind. anytime you are faced with tough questions that provoke or initiate critical thinking you will see if they have solutions to problems. you have to think outside the box. why are you working on thanksgiving? do you have a family? i'm interested. host: as a moderator i will not get into that yes, i will be celebrating as well later. what you are talking about, the president touches on in his thanksgiving automation yesterday.

the american spirit dates back to earlier days when the pilgrims were celebrating the first harvest. it inspired george washington to give the church a day of prayer and thanks. it also moved abraham lincoln to a claim exceeding a national holiday honoring america's bounty and asking god to bring us together. host: john in alexandria, virginia. caller: good morning and happy thanksgiving. i wanted to follow -- share a ditty. it is best to stay away from political blathering. they will end up with the turkey sputtering. happy thanksgiving everyone. host: we will not be discussing

politics, on twitter. people have been brainwashed by fox news and it has hurt my family and immeasurable ways. susan in massachusetts. caller: hi, how are you? happy thanksgiving. host: same to you. caller: i don't like the people on your show telling us how we should act. that is the government, what is killing us. big government telling us what to do and where to go to the bathroom. in my family we agree to disagree. what is wrong with that? if everyone listened to the other side instead of calling them names like joe biden does, he is the one that divides the country. he is in nantucket in $830 million mansions -- a $30

million mention. this is unbelievable. we are going after him on everything so get ready. the real president trump, it is payback time. host: what will you agree to disagree about at your thanksgiving table? caller: whatever subject that comes up. politics of course. the king of camelot, what was he? there is no perfect man. if you think joe biden is a perfect man you live in a different world. we will find out who is running the country. host: from the daily mail, the 30 million nantucket compound where the first family will spend giving, security will lock

down spelling -- the president and his wife will spend thanksgiving on by the flint process -- flame possessed --philanthropist. the bidens have been going to nantucket for thanksgiving since 1975. we will get two more of your calls, texts, tweets, and a minute here -- in a minute here. throughout today's washington journal we will be talking to two local reporters about what is happening in their states. joining is now, and opinion

editor in south florida. is there one or two that you think will dominate and 40? -- in florida? guest: yes i do. even though we just had a one-sided election, ron desantis one by an astonishing margin. two major issues are festering away. a serious crisis with housing affordability and a problem with property insurance which got even worse after the devastation from hurricane ian. those are two important pocketbook issues. host: what is happening in a situation with housing. explain a little more. guest: several local areas, palm beach county comes to mind.

the voters passed a bond issue that would allow the county to spend $2 billion in borrowed money in a place that needs it desperately. on property insurance there will be a special session of the florida legislator the week of december 12. it is unusual to have a special session but the republicans who have a super majority are hearing from constituents. it is becoming a major crisis, the insurance market has been close to collapse for a long time. there will be higher assessments on homeowners and this is a very difficult political issue to miniature. host: what are the solutions on the table? guest: antifraud measures, there

is a proposal about the continuing to build and vulnerable coastal areas like we saw in sanibel, fort myers. or maybe imposing situation where if folks feel they can't get insured, and there is always a problem with the perceived dominance of attorney. on the plaintiff side in the damage cases. host: let's go to those recent midterm elections. are your thoughts on what happened? on a smaller level, the house seats or competitive races, anything that surprised you? guest: the fact we had a democratic turnout collapse of historic proportions.

even the democrats did not see coming. a serious postmortem and self examination democrats are having with himself. a lot of democrats lost at the local level like in palm beach. the democrats just didn't show up. the percentage of republicans versus the percentage of democrats relative to their share, republicans have an overwhelming advantage. republicans in the florida always show up and midterm elections and it is always a challenge to get democrats to show up. and this time it had devastating effects. host: let's turn to 24. what democrat could get florida democrats turnout? guest: that is a good question. there is no obvious name that comes to mind. just president biden remains popular with democrats in the state. a big test to democrats in 2024,

rick scott it was all over the news because of the republicans difficulty and failures to take back the said. he is up for election in 2024. he said he will only run to terms -- two terms. lives up to them to find a strong candidate to challenge rick scott. and she did not do nearly as well as democrats that she would. i interact with democrats and republicans in south florida all the time and i heard from a lot of democrats that said i am not really sure charlie can pull this off against desantis. a lot of people thought val demings could defeat marco rubio and she fell short of that even though she had more money.

democrats have a lot of work to do and 40 background -- a lot of work to do in florida. host: what are the costs like where you live? guest: everything is up. we had a cost cut for gasoline that was only imposed for one month so gas prices went down and tantalized motorists to thinking gas prices were being induced. -- reduced. they went right up after the election. people are being priced out of their homes. i think homelessness is a major problem in many communities in florida and it is under the public's radar. there halfs -- there has to be solutions found. guest: to follow more you can go to the website and follow on

twitter. thank you very much and happy thanksgiving. back to calls. and in clarksburg, west virginia . caller: there will only be me. i am 87 years old, i am blind and i live alone. there will be nobody here but me. the only things to discuss will be the ones on tv. host: what are the issues on your mind? caller: i surfed the channels a lot. i hate to see people pouring over the boulder -- order.

--border. that is my top one i guess. i am independent and up on some and down on others. i don't think washington dc can do anything about the crime. each county has to go through that himself. host: ed mentioning crime. let's go to ellen in gilford, new hampshire. caller: i will be having dinner with my friend and her husband.

her husband and i are absolute opposites politically. i have known them for a long time. my friend is being diagnosed with ms and has a serious back injury. i think one thing we can agree on is medical marijuana and that is what i am hoping we can discuss. the people who are hurting are the people who stuck their nose out first and encouraged some liberties that marijuana patients have today. when they are talking up during their dinner --toking up during

their dinner they should know it was the patients who got us here. host: kenny in ohio. caller: the issue i would like to talk about is the student loan forgiveness. i wonder if these people understand that even though they might have their loan forgiven, someone else has to pay for that. i wonder if they think that is fair. that is all i really have to say. host: will you bring that up today? caller: no one in my family has a student loan to worry about but it is something because i went to college and through various means i paid my own loan or had it paid through my employer and pell grants. in the end i paid my own way through college.

i don't think it is fair to have someone that works at mcdonald's pay these peoples loans off and they didn't sign on the dotted line for the loan. host: robert in lynchburg, virginia. caller: hello. my topic today is going to be on all of the violence we are having in the united states of america. last time i called and before election day i told people will, when you vote you can either vote for guns for the republicans or people in the united states. regardless of who they are, churches, synagogues, if you voted for a republican governor,

-- have a happy thanksgiving day. host: from the world opinion pages about thanksgiving, their headline is, americans have plenty of gifts and good fortune this thanksgiving. they write, our country has faced so much worse and run against hurdles that seem insurmountable americans vanished to find their blessings and offer gratitude even in their bleakest days. thanksgiving day emerged during democracies most violent moment when americans were asked to stop and say grace. the act on october 3, asking americans to set aside the last thursday in november for thanksgiving and prayer. three month earlier more than 61,000 soldiers had been killed,

wooded, or captured in the battle of gettysburg. the war over slavery continue to rage and would eventually take at least 620 lives. at that juncture lincoln held hope with words written by the secretary of state. he offered optimism. the laws have been respected into base and harmony has prevailed everywhere. the proclamation mentions god but not any specific faith. it invites people of different religions, traditions, to be back -- part of thanksgiving. jessie and albuquerque, new mexico. caller: good morning. happy thanksgiving. i think it's a really cool topic. i'll be having thanksgiving with

two different groups. my stepfather's family. my stepfather's dad was in the military and is a downright republican. another one with my dad's family and my dad's dad was in the first class of you and i'm law in 1950 --u&m law in 1950. we will be talking about no matter what, part of the preamble in the constitution that says we are here to secure the blessings of liberty to our posterity. i am a middle school teacher in albuquerque and i have been a teacher for 14 years. and i want to say i am so proud of my niece, olivia who is working and going to college in washington dc and just a shout

out to you, olivia. i want to say i am looking at these leaders today and i am very disappointed in their modeling to our youth about the credit discussions and -- about democratic discussions. i challenge anyone who wants to run for president in 2028 and anyone who wants to go and to politics, it will give you a sense of the public education system in your committee. it will give you a whole new sense and i don't think biden, trump, my governor and many other politicians stay -- today

would have sold to last the month. trump is a drop in the bucket of american history. we will be here a lot longer asked him and have a great morning. host: a text, from dennis, i am up and feeling good about our future. things will get better and my family will not discuss politics. we are happy with what we have in this great country. thank you and happy thanksgiving. gary in indiana. caller: percival i think you always have good facts. -- first of all i think you always have good facts.

the priebus caller was talking about disappointments. you hear campaign promises and get your hopes up and everything can be so disillusioning. to anyone in office or thinking about running, ask yourself can i really be honest with people and do a really have the guts and conscious to fulfill the promises. if not, do not run. do us all a favor if you cannot back up what you say. thank you and happy thanksgiving. i love you. host: felix in texas. caller: good morning and happy

thanksgiving to everybody. one thing to discuss at the table as the supreme court. just a few weeks they took away the right of women. every family should discuss, why would they take the lives of everyone. it is very important everyone knows what is going on. for 50 years women's lives, guns, looking at the shootings, everyone should discuss that. host: on the abortion question there is some articles in the

paper today. this is from the new york times. abortion ban reinstated in georgia. georgia supreme court on wednesday reinstated the state's ban on abortions after six weeks of pregnancy temporally restoring the law that had been blocked by a lower coat -- court last week. the response for an emergency stay by the attorney general's office comes one week after the judge suspended the law. he said he had done so because the six week band was unconstitutional in the state legislator proved in 2019. one in three years before the supreme court results the constitutional right to abortion. that is from the new york times this morning. on the washington times, they have this headline, after midterm votes, states waive policies regarding abortion. patrick laws will remain. they note that there will be a patchwork of policies in minnesota. democrats have added the right

to abortion in state law. in the gop stronghold of florida, leaders are talking about more restrictions have not settled on a plan. in pennsylvania there is they can likely stop them from adding it to the constitution. in divided states like this constant, allegedly to still wait remains. -- a legislative stalemate remains. good morning to you. what is the policy issue you will be discussing? caller: happy thanksgiving. i will probably be discussing the health situation but the health care the united states because i have bladder cancer. it has been about three years now and we have a tremendous break any health care system in

united states. they have cap mia love and everyone and i go to the cancer center are very positive and keep your spirits up. i am thankful for them this thanksgiving and my family and my grandsons and my son. and my wife, and i'm telling you when you have something like cancer you think about other things in politics. those things matter but they'd really don't matter. and it brings you closer to god because if you don't have faith you don't have anything. it doesn't matter. i'll tell you what it is what keeps me going everyday. praying and asking god to give me another day to live. everyone would think that way i think everyone would get along a lot better and stop all this bickering and realize what they really have to be think before

noon at states of america, the greatest country in the world. have a good thanksgiving and god bless you. host: bradley in clear fork, west virginia. caller: yes ma'am. i like your dress. it is kind of sharp. my complaint is, all these people raising cain about guns. guns don't do the damage. you have a finger on your hand and there is a body behind it. that is the person that needs to be got. quit hollering on the guns. then you have your automobiles. they running them into people and killing people. you have to walk to work?

no, we will do that. then you have all of these kids killed in their dorm with a knife. are you going to ban knives because someone was killed within? you get the guys that done it. you need to put them in jail and these people that commit the crime on killing if they are found guilty, they should be allergic logic unit or gas or whatever you want to do. and they need to shut the border down. we are getting all of these drugs coming into the united states and that will probably be on our talk at thanksgiving dinner. host: on the immigration, will anyone disagree with yet the table? caller: no.

all the state is just about backing everybody that what's to shut the border down. i don't line people coming in here with the green card but when you don't have a card and you just come in here and you don't know what you are letting in, it is just like me. i was in vietnam veteran. people want to come from vietnam and they are nice people and out of mexico but the thing is, they need to come in here legally. any to shut that down as a number one priority and get all of this dope and medicine that is killing everybody. you have a good thanksgiving. good morning again. your dress is short. if you stood up would look better. host: joe in carolina, i am not allowing any political discussion or discourse. i will not engine that man from florida or scranton -- mention

that man from florida or scranton. for benjamin banneker. he was one of the first african-americans to gain distinction in science. and addicting the solar eclipse. and surveying washington, d.c.. -- predicting the solar eclipse and surveying washington dc. good morning to you. caller: the reason i called is that we should just be asking what we should be thankful for. i give all praise to my lord jesus christ. we have a lot to be think before so i will not take up much time. but that should be our question. what brings us together, not what divides us. host: are there policy issues

that you think those of the table could talk about that they are think before? caller: absolutely but i think we should just be talking about our family and what brings us together on this day and leave politics for the rest of the year and leave them out of the holiday and dinner table. if we aren't willing to respect the other's opinions it can be divisive. and such as our congress can learn they may be need to come together and what they can't agree on. host: elaine on twitter says i love discourse. it is the only way you learn the basis of opinions and beliefs and things that can change your mind. so much of it now is just emotions, not facts or science. we always had in-depth conversation at the dinner table and did not get emotional about

disagreements. host: mark in new jersey. caller: good morning. they key for c-span. -- thank you for c-span and happy thanksgiving. it is the best holiday because you don't have to buy any gifts and you can just enjoy each other's company. hopefully. i think the most important thing to discuss at thanksgiving would be climate change. it is an existential threat and people are not paying much attention in my estimation. i think about 1% of the country believes climate change is the most important issue. i am in that 1% and my family is all in agreement so we will have a good happy discussion. i will tell them about the solar panel i put on this year and my hybrid. there are 70 issues -- so many

issues like plastic pollution is really terrible. this is really we have to do and i want to applaud president biden for all of his excellent legislation to do something about climate change. host: mark in new jersey talking about climate change. kent and lancaster, south related. -- south carolina. caller: so many topics. first, abortion. and illegal immigration. over 2.8 million are entering this country this year. most of them, miners and children. it will take care of them? and the money we are sending to ukraine. $58 billion and now joe biden wants another $38 billion?

we don't know how they are using the money. what about united states orders. there is a lot we can talk about. all of the 368 billion dollars for climate chains -- change. this country is following -- falling apart. joe biden is doing an awful job. america's worried about putting food on the table. he see the price of kerosene? gases up and food is up. i am think before for my family and that god gave me another day on this planet. but it is getting bad out here for americans and it will get worse. host: on the inflation question, the new york times says consumers are finding ways to cut where they can without missing the party. there is an 80% cost increase.

some consumers said they were going to opt for a frozen bird which is about half the price of a fresh one. inflation was at 7.7% in october , a slowdown from the month before but not seen since the early 1980's. maybe it will be inflation that you discuss. more of your calls, text, tweets coming up here. we are joined by a talkshow host withwchv radio in it, virginia. happy thanksgiving. let's get your thoughts on what you think people in charlottesville, virginia will be talking about. guest: unfortunately due to the horrific events of a week and a half ago i think a lot of folks will be talking about firearms again.

whether the position on violence and how way -- a person start shooting people, they will blame the firearms people -- firearms. i want my politicians to be fixing what all of the other people who are wrong are doing is what they say and that becomes an existential issue with our politics these days. we are looking for elected officials to make our neighbors behave like we want them to behave. and we watch it on school boards , local supervisor levels and all the way up through congress. we want politicians to enact laws that will make that other guy do what i am doing so that we can all be the same and i think that is where we have been driven into this almost

democracy addiction where everyone will vote for something and everyone will have a 50% majority. and then you will in the 49% have to do what we wanted you to do any 51%. that is what is tearing apart our dinner tables. we want them to do the same things we are doing and if you don't, it used to be ok. opinions did not equal dominion. think that will tear apart our dinner tables at thanksgiving if we allow it. host: what is the solution in your opinion? guest: understanding that individuality is what america is based on. we are based on, as the founder of freedom works once said, don't hurt people and take their stuff. if we just go back to the simplicity of america, i can

behave the way i want to end you can behave the way you want to. as long as your behavior does not impede my rights i should be fine with that. i should not take offense if you live in a different way than i do. you may rent an apartment and i may own a house. you may drive an electric car and i may not. what different doesn't make to me? that is where we have gone with this government of subsidy. we have a tax catered to -- behavior. in the government says ok we will give you a subsidy is now the government is just printing money to give to both peter and paul. host: speaking of money, that is an issue for many on this thanksgiving day. the cost of the food they are putting on the table. the cost of traveling to see their family and friends peered what is it like where you live? guest: we are lucky that we have

a lot of sheetz. but other than that it is difficult. it is $3.50 for a gallon of regular. it has gone up so much and it actually has gone up less to go out to dinner for thanksgiving than it is to stay home and cook yourself. the average cost of a meal for thanksgiving has gone up 9%. so it is actually becoming better to go today to the grill or buffet than it is to grandma's house. host: some people may venture into politics today at the dinner table and some may talk about 2024. seems like we have already started that campaigning. and former president trump announced he will seek another term. we will know from president

biden after this thanksgiving holiday because he will discuss with his family. what do you think about the former president announced in that announcement. who should run in this upcoming cycle? guest: i have asked my listeners and there is a division amongst president trump's supporters. they are not happy we lost the 2016 trump if you want to say it that way. and we have been left with a version of 82020 drop who is very defensive -- a very defensive 2020 trump. they wanted him to get back to the champion of the forgotten man. that is what the listeners want to get back to. after queen elizabeth passed away he wrote an interesting column in which he has maybe america should have a constitutional monarchy like britain does.

i thought about it and read the article and i usually agree with daniel on a lot of things but this one i was at the surface, ever since 2000, and even the kennedy years angry society. we have been on a track for a democratic monarchy where the president rolls -- rules with his pen and phone. and congress has abdicated all of his authority to lawmaking to the unelected. whether it is education or energy. all of these things have lost congressional oversight. there simply operating with pen and phone. the democratic monarchy will tear people apart as well. again 51% like this guy and 49%

by like that guy. the 51% will dominate the 49% with public policy. host: previous interim election voter turnout, your thoughts on where you live and what it says about the upcoming presidential cycle? guest: i think the voter turnout was good. i think the republicans who had solutions to president biden's policies were bad. the politicians who campaigned on the economy bad didn't win because -- we're talking in the margins. that is all it takes to lose election. they wanted to hear, what are you going to do to fix the economy. to bring the value of my dollar back.

host: joe thomas, you can follow him on twitter. you very much and happy thanksgiving. guest: happy thanksgiving at think you for having me. host: back to calls. surely, what will you be discussing? caller: good morning. i will be discussing -- i will not be discussing any politics at my table today. i will be thanking god that he woke me up this morning. they can for my mother, 96 years old. -- thank him for my mother, 96 years old. today is a family day. everyone needs to focus on family and not discuss politics. because nobody knows if they

will see tomorrow. i suggest your topic should have been what are you thankful for today? across the border and all of this other stuff, if you want to talk about it tomorrow that is fine, today at the dinner table with your family, you are going to discuss politics? you need to think god that he chose to make you this morning -- wake you this morning. host: ok, i grover. how are you? -- hi grover. caller: i want to thank god for every day not just thanksgiving day. everyday day is a blessing. if i do discuss anything i will ask the question why is donald trump not until -- not in jail.

why he is not in jail is amazing. host: a reminder for those calling in. mute your television. laurie and hamburg, pennsylvania. caller: we will be talking about the future. my first granddaughter is on the way. both of my daughters are teachers, one on the west coast and one on the east coast. i think these past midterm elections send a really strong message that families want to get back to being families again. we want to have common ground. we don't want to be compared to someone that is different than us. we want to learn from those that are different than us. once you care about those that are different from us. -- we want to care about those that are different from us.

i want to talk about climate change. look at droughts, fires. if anyone says it is not real, i am sorry it is. we need policy. we don't need to go and do investigations on hunter biden. he has been in politics his entire life. i trust him. he is down-to-earth, has empathy , he has never done anything really terrible as a politician. he is not a corrupt person. he cares about the country. and so do we. and my brothers, i kids, my family. my neighbors are the greatest people in the world. we have different views. they are very religious but they take care of my pets when i go camping. i love interacting with her children. they are so respectable but she

stays home with her children and that is wonderful. but they are not constantly buying and buying. they spend time with their kids. they don't buy things to make them happy. i think a lot of people have to realize you don't want all of these warehouses, but you want your package the same day. you can't say i what amazon to deliver what i just bought tomorrow but not expect them to have locations all over the place to get it to you. host: some of you will be around a thanksgiving table with people who are on the opposite end of the political spectrum from you. here is peter clement on the washington journal on how to handle he calls, extreme polarization around the holidays. >> this goes back to the 1970's.

it seems like more than ever people where there politics on their sleeve. it used to be, not so much in social situations such as thanksgiving. >> i think that is true. particularly national politics. people could argue about things that are really affecting their life locally now it is the national discourse. the national characterizations or characters we have with one never -- one another which are affecting our conversations. issues like immigration or health care that are very complex issues and be simple find them. there is a right side and a wrong side -- we simplify them. we don't learn much. it is a debate game that we play that often times escalates and becomes personal. my recommendation and going into

thanksgiving -- in going into thanksgiving is to be mindful. and if you have experience with your group from the past and there are difficult conversations, you might head it off by reaching out to the visual -- the individual that tends to do that and talk to them beforehand. give them a call and invite them to go for a walk with the outside. have a conversation and connect and get in sync. also, just say, it has been a hard time for all of us. anytime you can keep the respect up and keep the climate cool. and did not get into heated debates over thanksgiving. if you want to have a conversation, let's do it and talk about it now. perhaps not at thanksgiving when

it could impact everyone at the table. host: -- host: are you planning to discuss a policy issue at your thanksgiving table? if you are not, we want to know why not and if you are, what is the issue? here is a text. we will be talking about everything. i am ready. preston, in florida. is there a policy issue you will be discussing? preston? one last call for you, preston. let me go on to kevin in georgia. caller: i am doing ok. i am with my sisters and people

talk about a little politics but mostly, we will have a great thanksgiving and i want to think --tank --thank god for my family, my boyfriend and my future husband and wish the world peace and love and just have a great happy holiday season and hopefully me and my boyfriend will get married soon. host: right, kevin in georgia. facebook post coming up and joining us now is emilio robinson -- amelia robinson.

thanks for joining us. what you think people will be talking about in the dinner -- at the dinner table in columbus ohio. guest: the midterm election results were very important for ohio and the mayor -- the governor -- the mayor of dayton ohio and that was -- it is a very blue city in -- and ohio is a red state and the gun his shoes that the statehouse is grappling with is impacting people in columbus. host: what are the gun issues they are debating? guest: columbus wants to restrict guns in the state says they cannot so that is something that is going on in the court.

the city is battling the state on what it can do and it wants to limit the amount of magazines and guns people can have and the number of bullets people can have, rather, and make regulations around gun safety. host: the gun issue is an update -- debate that some might be having at the dinner table. and what are other ones that people are discussing with you and you write about in columbus? guest: gerrymandering is one of the reasons that ohio is so red and the weakness of a democratic party comes into play when you talk about estate -- a state that was purple and that is because of the way the state is set up and how gerrymandering is

affecting how people can elect representatives. host: what happened with democrats in this last midterm cycle? answer that question and what is happening with the party in the state? guest: the democratic party in ohio is a non-entity because they don't have -- we are going into the ohio state versus -- there is a big game and ohio this not have a team or a referee or anything when it comes to democrats. replicants -- republicans control everything in the state and the governor is republican. all the elected officials in state government are republican and you have bigger cities like columbus, a blue state where democrats control everything. you have that back and forth. with things like abortion

becoming politicized, the secretary of state wants to change the rules so that you have to have more voter representation to get constitutional amendments on the ballot. a lot of people say that is a direct response to abortion and how people want to give abortion rights to the state. host: is there a democratic leader that could energize democrats in ohio and independence -- independents in this next presidential cycle? guest: we are have -- we have only one hope and there are no other democrats to have any strength in ohio that can fight back against republicans. host: what about tim ryan? guest: tim ryan, like other

democrats in the state of ohio, he did not fare so well in the midterms. he did not perform as well as the polls were indicating he would. he lost by seven points, which is a lot. it is not a terrible defeat but it was a defeat. the democrats nationwide did not support tim ryan in ohio. he raised like $50 million. that was not enough. host: what issues would dominate the 2024 cycle for ohio democrats? guest: abortion and marijuana, those are the two things that ohio democrats are hoping would be on the ballot and maybe that could help people to vote. beyond that, i don't think there is much hope for ohio democrats to do much. nikki: -- host: amelia robinson

but the columbus dispatch and you can read more on dispatch.com and on twitter at -- happy a think for joining us -- thanksgiving and thanks for joining us. we are asking you all this morning to tell us what public policy issue we discussed at the thanksgiving table today? -- will you discuss at thanksgiving table today? caller: i appreciate this program. it is the talk of politics and it is just not thanksgiving but every day lives because of the situation that is unfolding as people with great gifts and education that are running in back -- the highest office of position. even passing bills for budget,

everyone is not on the same page. you are having someone be able to put out such negative messages and not politically stand on the principles of trying to clean up this chaotic mess, with what is going on in the states and america being to worldwide. it is unacceptable to have anxiety because it is the body of america and it is not a joke. it is real lives and a wrist situation taking place beyond people following and listening. it makes no sense how, because money is the ultimate basis, you are allowing one person to be able to -- a clean background to get what -- what does someone

need 20 assault weapons for? there is nothing where there should be something in place where, hey, let's see how this person is doing. they tried to do it later on and retrace it and say they had all these problems that no one is able to say, you have to surrender your guns so we can rectify things. the political thing that the recount in georgia, this is changing people's lives and i saw on the news where herschel walker stood up for two minutes and was talking about werewolves and a thing on television. nothing political on what he would do. that was dangerous and people except that. -- a septic that and that is an

example of how far we have fallen off and mr. trump, his placement on this has been why we are -- and the media is talking about political situations because the output that is connected with him and the things that came of mr. trump, and his presidency. the american public -- he never apologized to the families -- family of the vice president. thankfully, he survived that but just say the hypothetical, he did not reach out to his own vice president. host: all right, you mentioned a lot including the georgia runoff, which takes place december 6. herschel walker running for u.s. senate in georgia gets tax breaks on a $3 million texas resident.

homeowners can claim a homestead exception on their primary resident. he registered to vote in georgia last year. let's hear from jacob in north carolina. what is the policy issue that you will be discussing? caller: the morning -- good morning. first of all, i would like to put some things into context and the first thing we will sit on the table is about the two weeks ago, and had an opportunity to help someone in africa and they were taking 30 jugs and going down to a ditch to get clean water and the babies were drinking the water because it is hard for the children to not drink the water because they are thirsty. i was able by the grace of god to give back types --tithes.

i thought a -- i bought a well for $2000 and they will have clean water in the whole village. that is what i want to put on the table first. the second thing is we should be thankful for the beautiful country we live in. america was founded on god. that is why we are so prosperous and bybee have been -- why we have been so fruitful in a short period of time. when we think of people who are in a situation where they can't get clean water in the mamas and the babies -- and the mamas and the babies are dying. you should be thankful for living in america and being born in america and we should be thankful of every breath we take. that is a gift from god. the other thing is, i will be at a high level.

talking about politics, i will be at a higher level. where i will come from is, at the end of the day it is good versus evil. that is at the end of the day. it is good versus evil and you open the book of the bible at the book of revelations, that is where we are at. host: here is mike rockford. being a family member works for a digital currency, my question will be the ftx with many politician's hand in the cookie jar. happening next week in washington, u.s. senate agricultural committee will hold a hearing on the ftx collapse and they will talk -- they will hear from the chair of the commodities futures trading commission about the regulations

and the oversight of cryptocurrency and what happens at -- with fcx. -- ftx. go to c-span.org and we will have coverage of that. richard in winter haven, florida. caller: high --hi. host: use your cv -- mute the tv. caller: it's usually -- excuse me. i am from winter haven florida and i am a 92-year-old navy veteran from the korea area. i would like to know is our military prepare for any hostile action from russia, china, north korea or any other foreign country that would like to wipe our democracy. are we going to wait until they attack us? i understand that china has the largest naval ships in the

country. my last comment is remember pearl harbor. host: mark in ohio. what is the policy issue on your mind that you will be discussing at the thanksgiving table? caller: i wanted to give advice for anyone discussing issues around thanksgiving. this is from stephen covey. it is better to be understand -- to understand that to be understood. host: high, salvatore. caller: i am concerned about the young people. i am an italian guy -- and i used to talk to my parents about [indiscernible] i am concerned -- [indiscernible] the cost is so expensive. [inaudible] -- a year.

we pay $2000 -- $200,000. we spent $800 -- [indiscernible] -- why health care is so expensive. hello? host: we heard the question. john is -- in minnesota. caller: can you hear me? host: we can. what is the policy issue? caller: we will talk about how grateful we are to the immigrants in the country who are supplying virtually every mouthful of food that we eat. i live in minnesota. we have many dairy farms and they are being run by the workers. they are all immigrants.

the meatpacking plants in worthington, minnesota and places like that, the meat is being cut up by end -- immigrants. all the vegetables that are coming to our points are -- all planted and picked and processed by immigrants. i hope the country would, for once, be internally ralph over all the work, the difficult work that these people put in on our behalf. host: this anyone at your table have a different opinion than you on immigrants? caller: not this year. host: hello, bernie. caller: happy thanksgiving. i am outnumbered at our exceeding date table -- our

thanksgiving date table. i am sure infrastructure will come up but i will try my best to steer the conversation to something important for thanksgiving and that is good for. what is going on in the nfc east? every team in back conference is in contention for the playoffs. let's have so fun and let's try not to get mad at each other and today is a good day for football. let's do that. host: before you get to football conversations, you said infrastructure. why do you think something that will come up? what is happening with infrastructure where you with -- where you live? caller: i am in louisville, kentucky and we have riches that are in need of repairs, especially in cincinnati. our brother lives there and he

is telling me all these stories where they are trying to find ways to -- where you can avoid there -- the bridges and one day on your program, you were talking about every candidate that might be great people -- leaders. i was thinking pete buttigieg there were -- and there were a couple of names, over -- a couple republicans. i am democrat but i vote republican and i think we need someone from the house to make a serious run for the white house. those two people would be excellent choices. host: would you be willing to go around the thanksgiving table and say who do you want to run in 2024? caller: i never thought about that because everyone is voting age and the other thing is we

have two grandsons and one of them will be grilled about what he would do for this college career. i appreciate the suggestion. host: that grandson may want to answer the question so he can avoid the grilling. caller: anything to avoid the grilling. it is never a good time for him. everyone wants to ask how is school. i worked in a unisys -- university and it is tougher first-year students. -- tough for thirst -- first-year students. host: hello, aubrey. we are listening and we can hear you. caller: i am calling in. we have politics and inflation.

we need to thank god. [indiscernible] it could be worse. thank god and be happy. host: we will take a look at how much it has gone up. never getting more costly thanksgiving, wind is up 3.2% empi -- and pie is up 13%. 46% increase in more than 2.3 million passengers passed through tsa checkpoints and up about 8% from last year and more than 11,000 more -- then pre-pandemic 2019. ground coffee is up 16% and fresh fruit up 6%. gravy almost 15%. peer, 16%.

ice cream 13.3%. those are the prices you have seen to prepare for dinner. will you talk about the costs of thanksgiving dinner at your table or this holiday season coming up? hope in new york. we are asking this morning what is the policy issue you will discuss? caller: morning -- good morning. it is only me and my husband for the holidays but we will discussing what we are grateful for. the infrastructure and things like that, even though he is a republican and i am a democrat but we have our differences of -- on certain techniques. and different politics.

other than that, we are thankful for what joe biden has been doing. everything like that. host: thanks, hope. president biden his family are in that socket, a place they have gone for many thanksgivings. before he left washington dc with his family, he went to north carolina to visit with military families and troops. here are some of his remarks. pres. biden: to be here with the marines and sailors of the expeditionary force is a great honor. i have gotten to see you all, and i mean this is syria -- sincerely, in the mountains of bosnia. you are incredible.

the american people have no idea the sacrifices you are making. 1% of you represents 99% of the public. you are volunteers any show up and you are always there and i used to get in trouble for saying when i was a senator, america has a lot of responsibilities but only one sacred response building. i mean this sincerely. that is to equip those we sent into harms way and -- care for their families. you represent 1% of the population and defend the rest of us. you are the sinew in the spine of the country -- and the spine of the country. we wanted to tell you how much we appreciate what you have done and john milton said they also serve -- to only stand and wait.

their mothers and fathers and husbands and wives, many times, they are not able to be with you, and they are serving to. our son beau was in kosovo and he volunteered in iraq. my wife is a teacher. she is out of the house by 7:00 and i walked to the kitchen and she is with her coffee standing over the key -- sink saying a prayer. when you are parents, when you are deployed, they don't know every single day. they worry about you. we owe them a big debt of gratitude. the other thing is what people don't understand until they run into you is that you are literally, not figuratively, the

greatest fighting force in this history -- the history of the world. it is not a joke. you are an incredible group of women and men and i want to think your spouses because they put up with a awful lot because of your service and a lot of those empty tables -- i don't know how many birthdays you have had, where there is an empty chair in your home. thank you for all you have done. host: president biden earlier this week in his trip to north carolina to thank those who are serving. is that a policy issue you will discuss at your table this morning? jean in texas. caller: happy thanksgiving. i want to say that i am concerned about the drug

problems. there are so much talk about bringing drugs into the country. there is such a thing as supply and demand. there is a great demand for these drugs. if people would talk more about drug abuse, and doing something about drug abuse. i have seen what that can do to people. i would say, consider the use of drugs, the abuse of drugs, and maybe you can cut down on the supply coming into the country. nobody is going to sell drugs to people who don't abuse drugs. thank you. host: you can join the conversation this morning by

calling in. we have divided the lines regionally. you can send out a text to (202) 748-8003. just include your first name and city and state. you can join us on facebook.com/c-span. here is a text from joe. we are open to all topics but will probably still -- steer away from all political topics. it will be, we have hope for improvement on many issues especially crime and safety. charles in georgia. go ahead. caller: how are you? host: morning. caller: happy thanksgiving. host: same to you. what will be the policy issue that he will discuss the tape -- you will discuss today at the table? caller: we will be discussing the health care policy. host: what about it?

caller: as far as people are under present -- underprivileged and how people will be able to afford the health care portion as opposed to the payment of edison. --medicine. going into the hospitals and making co-pays. we will be talking about that and we will be talking about different politicians' salaries and what they make as opposed to what other people are having survive off of. i believe the average salary is somewhere between 175,000 and up -- $175,000 and up for those salaries. host: let me ask you, house members and senate members different amount but arounds --

around $175,000 for members of congress. how does that compare to the people around your table? do you know? caller: anywhere between 30,000 -- 25000 and 35,000 year. -- $25,000 and $35,000 a year. host: that is the discussion he will have at his table. more of your calls coming up. we have been talking to the conservative opinion writers and radio talkshow hopes -- hosts from across the country and joining us now is a senior political analyst for the carolina kernel. -- journal. we have been asking people what is the policy issue people will discuss. what are the issues that will dominate in rally -- north

carolina? guest: we will talk about the economy as we are getting ready for the big push towards holiday shopping and we recently had a poll that suggests that somewhere in the neighborhood of likely north carolina voters said that inflation and the rising prices are having at least some impact on their holiday shopping including 37% who are saying it is having a significant impact. their hopes for the future and the hopes that inflation will go down and i think people will look to see what sort of new ideas and the new people being elected. -- elected will have in terms of dealing with policy issues that are important. a lot of people will talk about local stuff. i heard a caller saying let's

talk about football. here is store -- in north carolina, there will be discussion about the game between north carolina and nc state. there will be policy discussion but the typical family discussions and some of the things that get people's minds off of policy and politics. host: you mentioned some new faces elected to office. who are some of them from north carolina? guest: the big one was for the new newark senate seat. richard burr, the republican who served three terms, retired and this was a hotly contested seat. it seemed like it was not an between republican ted budd and democrat cheri beasley, who was as -- a former chief justice. up until a month, some polls were suggesting it was not connected and then the final

weeks, it looks like it was going to ted budd direction -- but -- ted budd's direction. people will be interested on what he has to say. because of new district lines, we have a lot of changeover. i am sure folks in the d.c. area are familiar with david price. we have several new members of our congressional delegation and many of the -- those who came from the state senator and will move to d.c.. a lot of people will be wondering about them. our delegation has a 14th seat because north carolina has been a growing state. we went from 13 to 14 states -- seats. we will be split evenly between several republicans and seven democrats. it may be a bit short-lived because we already know that a

court imposed election map for the 2022 election cycle will not be used in 2024. some people have said the new members of congress want to consider renting rather than owning an eight the d.c. area because there will be brand-new maps for the election but that is a discussion for a later day. some people may be wondering what new members of congress like don davis will be up to when they get to d.c.. host: what are some of the issues that dominated this election cycle and produced the outcome that we saw in north carolina? guest: the economy and inflation was a big one. i mentioned the pole. it suggests that the number one issue for most people was the economy. inflation was number three. abortion was number two and that was a major one for democratic candidates. they and -- are concerned about

abortion rights. the election outcomes that were important in north carolina, that would sound odd to people in other states, was the race for our streets on the north carolina supreme court. we have partisan elections and we had a seven member court with a 4-3 democratic majority and we have seen a number of rulings during this past year in which the democrats lined up on one side and the republicans on the other. they were seen as partisan rulings. there were two seats up for grabs. republicans won both of them and they swept the other state so now, in this next session of the north carolina supreme court starting in january, there will be a 5-2 republican advantage on the court and there will be discussions on what that means for republicans --policies.

while some of the decision that came out during the last year that work for-three democratic rulings, -- that were four, three democratic rulings, will those be revisited? that might be a point of discussion. what will happen at that we have a 5-2 republican led state supreme court? one at the big issues that the u.s. supreme court will deal with during this term, oral arguments are coming up, is a case about north carolina's redistricting and some thinking -- and something called the independent state legislator. that ties exactly what -- to what our state supreme court will be up to in the next year or two. host: are there any polls or

what are your thoughts on 2024? who might win the state of north carolina? guest: it will be interesting. i haven't seen any polling that --yet. we have been discussing -- there are a couple of big issues. one is who will be --win the presidential race. on the republican side, there is discussion on how much president trump -- support he will have. is it nikki haley? is it mike pence, the former vice president? on the democratic side, there is a lot of discussion on if should joe biden run again. our outgoing, -- governor, roy cooper, has been talked about as a potential presidential

candidate but a lot of people are talking about him more as a vice presidential candidate and he would get a strong look in north carolina because he has been very popular regardless of how other democrats have fared. he has had much liar -- higher popularity ratings than joe biden. our next biggest thing is who would be the next governor because roy cooper is not going to run again. there are big names on the democratic side. we have our returning general josh? -- josh dine --stein. on the republican side, are you lieutenant republican -- lieutenant governor. before he won that race, he had never one public office in --

and he was mainly known -- he has caught a lot of attention on the republican side. david falwell has been talking about running. there is a discussion on who you would support for protection -- for president but who should be the next governor as well. host: let's talk about what cooper -- roy cooper. what can you tell our viewers about roy cooper and why he is popular and a potential candidate for 2024? guest: he straddles the line between being acceptable on the political left and political right. he is a democrat and if you have the major issues that are part -- important to democrats, he has not strayed from that

democratic line. in terms of his demeanor, the mannerisms, the priorities he has had. he has been acceptable to middle-of-the-road people and even some republicans in both carolina. there has been a head scratching phenomenon over the past couple cycles in that there are people who have been cooper trump voters. a not insignificant number of people who voted for donald trump for president but also roy cooper for governor. some people may remember the name jim husk who was a 16 year democrat -- and appealed to the right and was savvy enough to know when the political wind paper republicans and still was able to win. some people call jim cooper as the last of the jim husk style

democrats. i work for a conservative thinks -- think tank and we see a lot of areas that we don't really like the things roy cooper has done but folks who are in the middle of the road who can be persuaded, tend to have like roy cooper and the fact that he has been someone who has been somewhat cautious in leaving out ahead of the public in terms of accepting progressive causes or ideas. he has not strayed from the democratic line on major issues but he also isn't stepping out in front of the public of those issues. he is a strong political savvy, and has good advisors telling him what to engage in. to the extent he is interested, he can be an interesting

candidate in 2024 and if not then, we have a u.s. senate seat that comes in 2026. that might be a time, if roy cooper and his family are interested in moving to washington dc. if he has some interest moving there, if not 2024, perhaps eight u.s. senate run. host: to read more from mitch kokai, you can go to twitter at his handle. you can go to carolinajournal.com. happy thanksgiving and thank you. caller: thank -- guest: thank you. host: we will go to david. what is the policy issue for you and your family and friends? caller: thank you. i would like to wish everyone a happy thanksgiving from a indian trip to. -- pilgrim.

i am a true native and wonder the things i would like to discuss is not necessarily the politics but the politics in football, with the thanksgiving day, it has always been pretty well played by the dallas cowboys. i am at c-span -- a chiefs fan and patrick the homes --mahomes is acceptable -- host: how will you type respect to policy -- titus back to policy -- tie this back to policy? caller: this is about immigration. i have been integrated to the mexican people who came to the united states and everyone are hard-working and i therefore legal -- i am for legal

immigration. the ones i have interacted with our good hispanics. as far as the change, this is native american month. you have representation of the chiefs and it would be good to have that policy change to have someone who is positive, for all people. host: got it. marion owens with a tweet. reasonable gun laws is a conversation they will serve up at her dinner table. tom in ohio. caller: the table conversations around this country should be centered around federally mandatory mandated curriculums

-- neighborhood public schools. this broadcast and cable network and politics in general is all entrenched in the rights and privileges of citizens and the functions of government. if we have populations that were educated starting from the third grade going to the 12 grade, compulsory civics, two years we miscible and two years county and two years state and ninth through 10th grade, federal and foreign governments that influence policies, we will have an educated population on how to move the common good through the functions of government. all our elected officials are elected as a response -- was all a process connected to civics, and once they are elected, the funding granted to them is taxpayer-funded dollars, which

is allocated through a process that is connected to civics. this should be the conversation around most of the table, if not all the tables, so we can get better government and better private citizens to support the government. this is what i hope is a conversation. host: tyler in illinois. caller: happy thanksgiving. i think the policy i would focus in on would be more foreign policy between russia and ukraine. china, the only policy migrated from the trump administration to the biden administration was focused on china. i am curious to get a pulse on the family and friends and how they look at foreign policy earth day look at foreign policy -- or if they look at foreign policy. it can be easy to look -- lucite

of that -- lose sight of that. host: why is it of interest to you? what about your life experience makes that a topic at the forefront of your mind? caller: i don't know if it is a immediate concern. i know the security of our country and how we look at the situation and how the dynamics are playing out in our culture. i think there is a lot of influence to a certain extent being played out in the internet and, just rub -- throughout our culture, that i think is hindering our ability to come together as americans. host: tyler in crystal lake. david in birmingham, alabama.

hi. caller: happy thanksgiving to you. i will speak in terms of birmingham. i wish the citizens of birmingham could get a good rate on water. we have people here paying $1000 for water. host: a month? caller:, -- a month. if they don't pay their bill, they will put a lien on the property. i hope the citizens of birmingham could get a produce in the water and sewer bill so they can live comfortable because we have people in the city that only $900, but -- $900 a month. my thing for thanksgiving, i wish the citizens of her mechanic and get a relief on their water and sewer bill --

birmingham can get a relief on their water and sewer bill. host: tolerance and free speech. i am hopeful we can become less afraid to do so. more of her thoughts coming up. send us a text at (202) 748-8003 . post on facebook.com/c-span or send a tweet. the lines are divided regionally. more of your thoughts in the policy issues that you will be discussing at your thanksgiving table coming up. i want to show you from our conversation here on the washington journal, a bit from andrew joseph kony --cohen. he addressed current polarization. i spoke with him and how to combat it as a culture engages with this agreement.

as people start to think on where to see people at the thanksging table, you write this. many people resort toling spouses not to -- not to discuss certain topics on fear of setting off the relatives or giving them an excuse to spout their view. the suggestion that we should not discusstroversial topics is now being defended on how it is uncivil or disrespectful are disagree -- to disagree with everyone. despite the popularity of this view, it is a mistake. explain. guest: there is a lot of discussion about this bring -- the agree -- degree to which america has been polarized. there is debate on whether or

not it is polarized but the view is right. people will say things like, we are more pluralized -- polarized anytime since the civil war. there is a great deal polarization. i think when you think about how our culture raises children, it is not surprising the results that we see. if you raise children to think that this agreement at the -- disagreement at the thanksgiving table is going to cause problems, and if you raise them to think that disagreement is disrespectful, they grow up to be adults that think disagreement is disrespectful. rather than getting into engage dialogue and civil discourse, to themselves and that causes problems, instead of thinking

about what the other person is capable of understanding and trying to reason with them, they accept this view that the other person is not capable of agreeing with them and accept the view that the other person is stupid or evil. that leads to more polarization. my point of view is simple. if we raise people -- children from the beginning to think about how they talk to others and you willing to disagree with others, -- and be willing to disagree with others civilly, they will be used to dialoguing that way and they will be more engaged. that is what we need. it is too often the case that people identify with their political party are there race -- or their breaks where everyone has their own view. you need to have people recognize that there is

disagreement -- space for disagreement. clinton republicans -- democrats would not agree with democrats that are behind alexandria ocasio-cortez. our different views within each group and if we actually will engage in honest dialogue, we will see that more often and have blessed -- less commitment as a group and more commitment to figure out what the best way for this. host: from the washington journal, the policy issue that you will discuss at your thanksgiving table. sue in woodstock, georgia. what is it? caller: we have agreed to disagree. we -- basically, to get along,

my brother loves joe biden and i do not. and, it is not worth it. we love each other so we disagree to keep politics out. host: why is it that you and your brother are politically and philosophically different? you grew up in the same household. caller: we do not. we do not. host: you grew up in the same household? caller: my -- we did, i mother was a republican, father was a democrat --. i have been a democrat my whole life until 2012. host: what made you change? caller: a boyfriend and getting to learn more about the

republican party and what they stand for. host: do you remember your parents discussing politics? caller: no. my mother said who i vote for is my own business and i have -- i was in a catholic school and we campaigned for john f. kennedy. i thought he hung the moon. i said, my mom, you are voting for kennedy? she said it is none of your business but i voted for richard nixon. it was a surprise to me. i was shocked. host: what is the policy issued you will be serving up -- issue you will be serving up? this person says none other than stopping --stuffing protocols. you can send a text and include

your first name and city and state to (202) 748-8003. eastern/central part of the country condyle -- can dial (202) 748-8000. and those in the pacific area condyle --can dial (202) 748-8001. we have a correspondent at the leading heartland publisher and editor. a correspondent in khoi. sorry about that. happy thanksgiving to you. what other policy issues on the mind of those in iowa gathering today for thanksgiving? guest: i wanted to say i have been enjoying your discussion, parents canceled each other's vote in almost every election. all five of us grew up to be

democrats. my father was a republican, mother was a democrat. and we are having a small thanksgiving and i think we will be talking about what is happening in ukraine. we frequently talk about iowa politics. that is probably, my teenager is interested in several issues that will be coming up next year in the legislative session. host: let's talk about iowa politics. what is coming up? guest: we had a red wave in iowa. most of the country did not but we did. the republican party had a trifecta here and expanded their majorities in the iowa house and senate and our governor was reelected and are republicans came close to sweeping the statewide offices. they defeated a -- the longest-serving ever attorney

general and state treasurer in the country. our democratic state auditor was barely reelected. the republicans won all four -- iowa does not have gerrymandering so this was not a case of gerrymandering the map. one democrat lost by less than one percentage point and it was a very close race and a tough environment for iowa's democratic candidates. i expect more tax cuts and like most states, we have a fairly high -- large surplus and that has to do with the federal money coming in >> rather than invest that, the republicans control legislature that has been passing large tax cuts that benefit a wealthy

individual and corporation the most. i also expect more important restrictions. our governor passport is the most restrictive in portions on the country in 2018. it never will into effect because was struck down by a court. the governors in court right now, trying to restate that law. i suspect that when the legislature reconvenes, they may pass a new law, rather than wait to see how that will play out. i think that litigation -- it was a good way to get through the campaign without legislatures having to vote on popular abortion restrictions, but i expect to see some very restrictive abortion regulations on the table in iowa. host: how is iowa preparing for the upcoming presidential election and the caucus? guest: we are on two different

tracks because the republican party is keeping iowa first on the calendar, and we have had candidates well before the selection, prospective candidates coming to iowa, so i would consider that a fairly normal season on the republican side, but on the democratic national committee, they will meet in early december. they haven't decided whether to keep iowa first on the calendar. i tend to think that iowa will be replaced, possibly by michigan or another state that is more of a swing state. it is not clear. since president biden is likely to run for reelection, the dnc could kick this can down the road and not make big changes to the calendar before 2024 because the caucus would not be very competitive anyway, but i think we've reached the end of the road. for most of my life, iowa has been considered a swing state. we had six presidential election starting around 1982 with an iowa popular vote for president,

and it was very closely matching the national popular vote, and that was one argument for keeping iowa first and the calendar because the idea was that candidates would need to pound the pavement, and if they could appeal to iowa, that would be a good sign that they are attracting candidates nationally, but starting in 2016, iowa has diverged from the political voting pattern, and that was just shown again, as i mentioned, that we had a red wave, and it didn't show up in most of the country. i think the party is going to be looking elsewhere to start this process, but on the republican side, it will be a very busy campaign. >> what about the issue of inflation in the economy. what are you hearing from people in iowa? >> it was the main issue that most candidates were campaigning on. as if the democratic officeholders in iowa somehow made the inflation happen, or

inflation isn't a global issue right now because of the supply chain problem from the pandemic, and the war in ukraine in other factors, and inflation is high compared to what we are used to experiencing for the last 40 years, but it is not as high in some parts of the country, and generally, inflation isn't as high as it is in most of the western world. gas prices have come down since the peak, so i don't hear people talking about gas prices, or driving as much of the winter as they used to. certainly, when you go shopping for food, people notice that the prices are higher. that is not something the republican trifecta is trying to solve. it was convenient to talk about during the campaign, but this is just a politician or president with little control over what is happening with inflation and all the more so for politicians in iowa. >> you can learn more from laura

at the bleeding heartland.com. thank you very much. we hope you enjoy your family today at thanksgiving table. guest: happy thanksgiving. host: we are getting your thoughts on a policy issue that you're willing to discuss or not willing to discuss at your thanksgiving table. pam in north carolina says i hear a lot of people say our country. our family all agrees that this country does not want anybody except the native american from which we sold this land. it also was mexico as well. this country belongs to whoever comes here to make it their home. lewis in north carolina. let's hear from you. caller: happy thanksgiving to everyone who is listening. i give thanks to god every day. i thank him for just being here

in existence. it also, he gives me, according to his riches in glory. but if people take one day and just want to be thankful, that is the picture. but i am talking about what was just stated about native americans. if anything, this day should go to native americans. when i look at the pilgrims who landed on plymouth rock, the native americans saw that they could not farm the land, they were starving. they were starving like marvin. but native americans took what they had to feed the ones that george washington or george england sent his one seated one in england, in london or britain. he said it was criminal.

there were rapists and murderers, and he said the mall to somewhere else. native americans took them in. if anything should have any outreach, it should be the native americans. they saved the european man in america. they were starving. >> all right. tom in michigan. this is a tax. we agreed to listen harder than we talked. roger in arizona. hello. caller: hello. this is my first time. i've never called into anyone ever before. host: we are glad you called in. caller: happy thanksgiving to everybody. i'm very nervous. host: tell us what policy issues on your mind for thanksgiving today. caller: drugs.

i would like to bring up the fact that i think he gets overlooked, very heavily. we have a big problem with drugs. we're trying different things to try and make it better. but the government is overlooking the veterans, for instance, and they are in severe pain and have been in severe pain for 20 years. as the pain progresses, it goes up through my bones. host: do you get health care from the veterans department? caller: i did for since i was 17

years old when i was in the marines, but they got things messed up, and they took away my v.a. care. host: when did you serve? you got drafted. caller: i was in the south asia specific. i don't like to call it vietnam. we were in other places. we were supposed to be. i was in-laws and some others were in cambodia. the house and senate said we couldn't be. unfortunately, they destroyed a lot of records,.

host: how long were you there? caller: i don't know. over a year. we moved around a lot. i was on an aircraft carrier in the south china sea. i almost killed myself. it was an accident. what i wanted to point out is they were giving me 180 pills for pain which i felt was just too much. i cut back myself to see how far i could cut back. i got to the bottom line that i couldn't go any lower. when they started the war on drugs, they didn't take into consideration veterans or anybody that was in severe pain

like they told me. i'm going to be on drugs, for the rest of my life. host: make you for your service, and happy thanksgiving. indianapolis, jeremy. why is it ok to speak to someone and simply not agree? can we not hear an opinion without getting angry? must we always try to convince everyone to adopt our own view or dissuade them from their own. let's disagree you, freely. wayne in north carolina. allen in flat rock for throwing it. go ahead. caller: i hope this thanksgiving, we can be more objective. we can look at problems from more of a nonlinear perspective and look at the unintended consequences of accidents, like energy, foreign policy, going into help certain countries like we've done in the past with

korea or vietnam. much less afghanistan and the middle east. we really look at how we consult problems, but also, how they are intertwined. this is not arithmetic. it's not even algebra. his calculus. we have a lot of things with bumper sticker mentality, instead of taking the time to be unbiased and try to find great answers for a country. host: wayne in texas. good morning. caller: good morning. this is his wife. anyways, wayne. sorry. this is his wife. i'm going to talk on behalf of him because he went out. since it is thanksgiving, were listening.

i am back. happy thanksgiving. where equity discuss anything clinical at the table because i don't think it is the right time and place to do so. why not? >> it will draw conflict, and we all know the craziness with high prices and open borders and all of that transgender stuff going on, but i think we should just focus on being thankful. host: got it. justice in maryland. is there a policy issued to discuss at your thanksgiving table? caller: it's a catch 22, but you need to do these things. i am thinking we should have a lot of conversations and have them adjusted to the children at certain times, or kids, we keep it a certain way. if we have adults wrong, maybe grandma who doesn't or grandpa,

they shouldn't get too excited, but at the end of the day, but we are all done arguing, we have to settle up and say i think we start off with we are blessed, and i know that is hard for some people to say, but it is hard to say you're blessed, but maybe god is driving all of this stuff, and were mad that weeding get what we want, but god might actually be a control, but never mind that. so we should be careful. i'm thinking this word, and i have to say the last veteran who talked about where he wasn't supposed to be. thank you for letting that guy talk. i wish we could've listed and for about an hour, but it was kind of tough, and that guy, i did know it was going where he was taking it. anyways. my thing is this. pardons for all. i'm looking for one from larry hogan. we'll see how that goes out. i think pardons for all. we all make mistakes.

we all fall short of being perfect, not because of religion, but because in truth, we are all driving down the roads and we looked on at this person come look at this person. we are painting people into a corner. we don't even know who they are. we have to have pardons for all. for those who hate everything american, i get that. i do. but, we are america. the people. the neighbors. we make america. we can make it whatever we want. that is what we are trying to do. were trying to make it a place for all, but it is hard. host: joseph and marilyn. in case you missed it, and the first hour, we showed you a conversation we had with andrew joseph cohen. the mercator center. he defined for us, on the washington journal, civil

discourse, and what it looks like in action. >> civil discourse is discourse that is intellectually engaged, but not necessarily polite. it is respectful. we have to make sure that both parties are willing to have a discussion, and that they recognize they are disagree with one another, but it is not any sign or indication of disrespect. it is required when we disagree with somebody. we are basically saying to them, i think you are capable of understanding weren't coming from. i think you are capable of understand truth. so i'm going to explain to you what i believe the truth is. similarly, you have to be in a position to accept that from other people. you have to be in position for a disagreement because they also think you are capable of understanding the truth as they see it. hopefully, with this dialogue,

you can come to some sort of understanding at the very least. possibly even some sort of agreement with the truth of the matter. all of this requires humility, and it requires that you go in is willing to learn as you are to teach. >> what do you not do during civil discourse? >> there are a lot of things you don't do. name-calling is of course a bad thing to do, assuming that has bad attentions. i think that a lot of people in our society today have a tendency to assume that people who disagree with them are -- they are not evil, but misguided. there is a tendency to assume that anyone who disagrees with what we think should be done publicly. government funds are what have you. it is not necessarily selfish, but you one thing done, but you are thinking about the whole community, thinking about the nation.

those are almost always just mistakes. people have different views about what is best for the community, what is the best for everyone. that is where the disagreement comes in, and trying to figure out what is actually going to be best for everybody. that is where, you can civil discourse. host: wondering what civil discourse you will have, at the different -- dinner table over a public policy. gregory in chicago, we will hear from you. caller: thank you for taking my call. the comment i would like to have as far as the policies. ok. everyone is complaining about the border. how the border is not protected, and everyone is coming from the border. you look at it, and their mexicans across the border, but they have had that taking, so in arizona, texas, you need to get the land back.

their own country. another thing with donald trump, his cronies, as far as politics, every politician that is still legal and doing illegal stuff, in the office. they should be going straight to jail, and it should simply be worse than any other person that is being convicted of smaller crimes. i would suggest that donald trump did not go to jail. he should do community service and unprivileged areas, where he is doing 20 years of community service. he should not go to jail. that's where he should be at. host: ok. here's an update on midterm election results. it is in the paper today. the gop lisa murkowski wins reelection in the senate race. some of you may know they have rank-choice voting.

no candidate got 50%. they are having that election, and she comes out on top over a gop endorsed candidate from the former president. sammy in south st. paul minnesota. hello. caller: how are you? host: we can hear you. happy thanksgiving. what is policy issue that you'll be discussing? >> probably, we are discussing a book by roland martin cold white fear. it is just fascinating. i was on the audiobook. i don't have that much time, but what we did was is just a fascinating book. i hope that one day, you will

have a chance to put him on tv. it would be great. thank you so much. host: collin and appleton, wisconsin. hello. >> hello. ok. the probably won't be talking about a policy at the dinner table for thanksgiving, but my family does not like talking about politics. host: why not. does get heated? caller: yes. host: do you have republicans and democrats of the table? caller: yes. host: what is the policy issue that causes the most disagreement? caller: it depends.

for example, roe v. wade. being overturned. host: deck to get the most you. caller: yes. i believe a woman has a right. arizona. good morning. caller: good morning. when biden became president, i voted for trump. i'm going to still vote for trump. when biden came in, he took over the same policies that were in place. i would have been fine with biden. he is destroyed this country within two years, and has anyone talked about what the gop has been finding on hunter's laptop? they had come on and they discussed what was found on it. it has been discussed. what is the big deal. hunter and jim and joe biden are involved with human trafficking. this is a big deal. that is one of many things they

have found. host: are you bringing this up at thanksgiving? caller: it is already brought up. we have democrats and republicans. they are starting to act like what is happening here. we keep the policies in place, and if he was for this country, things were better under trump. it is just a fact. i am just shocked that people can see that. they are so anti-trump. i don't get this. it is crazy. host: did you vote for kari lake? caller: i did. host: did your family vote for katie hobbs? caller: no. they voted for kari lake. host: why? caller: she was with the people. she was so interactive. she was genuine. she doesn't take any bs. they like the strength behind what she has to say. his not a trump and biden thing.

it is more just an american thing. when are people going to realize that? host: did the same feeling members vote for mark kelly? or blake masters? caller: one of them voted for blake masters. the other voted for mark kelly. being a border state, people don't understand yet. i'm in arizona. i'm about three hours from the southern border. that said, it's bad. we are talking about how it's not bad, but it's terrible. you don't understand. it's terrible. it's very sad. many women, i feel for them. host: do you think immigration dominates discussion?

do you know how much thanksgiving will cost you? caller: cost a couple hundred dollars. we have a 16 pound bird, and it is outrageous, but it was expensive. host: happy thanksgiving. hello, ray, new york. caller: happy thanksgiving. is there a policy issue you are going to talk about? caller: the first we will talk about is ending the democratic rule, and we will end birthright citizenship, the third is to end daca, and forth, to put a cap on immigration. with our economy, particularly black americans, those are. host: why will that dominate? what will change with immigration at the forefront of your mind, and those gathering with you? caller: i live in new york, in

our city is overrun with immigrants. fate come every day and every year, and there's never an end to it. we have to understand that in the 60's, a lot of the countries were at civil war and such. but they are still coming. there is a never ending pipeline of that from the caribbean, africa and south america. host: is it a job issue? caller: no. it is an infiltration of the environment. everything you do or have to do involve someone not from america at every given term. it is kind of annoying, and especially with a language barrier, which they expect you to bend your ear and understand them, but then they act like they don't understand you except where they need something like money or help. that is the issue. host: hello teresa in vero

beach, florida. the morning. caller: i will be discussing several different political topics and you know, inflation, and my husband and i are getting close to retirement, and we are trying to figure out how we are going to make it on retirement, but more than that, we'll be talking about being thankful, trying to find solutions. not focused on the problems, but there are differences between the people in this discussion. but more, how would you solve that. if we can come together, not just on solutions, but on the problem, i think we would have a really great discussion without any rainy -- heart discourse. >> we were talking about an opinion writer from south florida who writes for the

sentinel, and he was talking about how he believed many people in florida today on thanksgiving would be talking about rising housing prices, and is becoming unaffordable for many in florida. would you agree with that? what is your situation like. as you approach retirement, and you think about whether you can live on your retirement funds. >> can you hear me? >> we can. >> i agree with that. but not necessarily in regards to my husband and myself. more to the young people that are just starting their lives, where they won't be able to afford to have a decent place to stay, and my son, his wife, they are having all kinds of problems trying to afford to live here in south florida. it is just ridiculous, the

prices for houses, and for rentals, so they don't have many options on what to do. my daughter-in-law is a nurse, my son is in retail, and they make good decent money, but they have two children, and it is difficult to live here in fort. >> what are they looking out for prices, and ways out of reach for them. when you think, i've been helping them try to find places because right now, they're in an apartment, and it is terrible. but that's all they can afford, so i'm helping them find something else. for a small house, 1200 square feet, it's like $2300. that's a lot of money. if you need to have 12 $250,000, for a small house, that's a lot of money to try and come up with

for a new family, and your demesne? i don't understand how someone can, unlike me and my husband who are at the end of our situation, our houses almost paid for, and we will be done with by the time we retire, so we won't have that cost, but i don't know how to people who are getting out there today can afford it. host: happy thanksgiving. brenda in manchester, washington. hello. caller: high. happy thanksgiving. i want to say that i hope we did not discuss politics, and what i will strive for. host: why not? caller: is kind of a downer, but it is a perfect opportunity to say, my parents are in their 80's, our kids are in our 60's, and we's always been the same. i'm a conservative or progressive in a sea of conservatives, and i have to

tell you, and to every viewer out there, chop -- trump changed my family. it got to a point where i could see very quickly that we couldn't discuss anything anymore. it got so bad, that i wouldn't say anything. i would listen, and occasionally i would say, let's. , because my opinion which are longer welcome. i want to say that i would say nothing because i wouldn't say anything against trump because i knew where it would go, and i didn't want any arguments at families more important. the one time i did say something was covid, because it is my parents health it my mother, she hung up on me. that had never happened because i spoke against trump. i am hopeful. i do think that they are coming out of the trump colts. i am so hopeful. to anyone that wants to chastise me for calling it a cold, it is a cult of personality. if you believe one man, and

nobody else, but to bring it back, i'm very hopeful. i just don't want to talk politics. i think the tightest turn. i am very hopeful it is. jesse no. my family is in that district where it was one of these upsets in washington. i won't discuss politics, but i do not ask who they vote for. i'm sure they did not vote for marie. but i would sure love to know. i am hoping that someday, when everyone gets grounded again, we can discuss politics. i am really missing the way we use to engage and listen to one another. host: more calls in a minute, but joining us from utah is kate. she is a case that the -- most

of the show. i saw you listening to that last caller, and you are smiling. >> hello. happy thanksgiving. when people call it a cold, it is very strange because the media did a huge blitz on trump, so there were certain things he did in office, and would people act like that, as far as pinning it into magna, or the trump colts, or the mac a cold, it infuriates me because i think that when you listen only to the barrage that was going up against him, continuously on talk shows and every thing else, they set the stage. it wasn't somebody who look at the presidency and said i like what he is doing here. that wasn't the problem. the problem was that the entire nation was brainwashed into hating him. before he was president, they didn't hate them.

he was on deal or no deal. he was doing the apprentice. there wasn't a hatred for them. there wasn't trump. it was about mainstream, and the way that the country talked about him and every article. the news talked about in. that's what actually caused a lot of problems. it really wasn't trump's presidency. things were going smoothly for our economy, but now it's in a dumper. i don't think we all voted for it to be in that even more, and i don't think that is the catalyst that is causing the issue, but i think, there are a lot of things out there with this information, and people see it or they don't. there is not a trump coal. host: as republicans gather in utah, and there are more of them utah, if they are going around the table, and they ask around

the table in utah, and they ask the republicans who should run in 2024, what are the names you think will come up? caller: not romney. we are the state to give you romney, we apologize for it every day. nobody likes him too much. he doesn't get any support from our state. it wouldn't be him. he would probably want to run, but it would be him. as far as that goes, until we can fix the elections or the software, and fix what's going on in the nation, i'm not even quite sure if it matters. when names are being traded, i don't think that people would go for the leftist. i think we see enough of that the country, but i think people want between -- simply -- something we can see, and someone to get behind, but it is really difficult at this point because parties either have the right or the left candidate, and

it gets tough. in utah, we talk about things openly, with election fraud in all the rest, but we are going to be a little more hesitant about backing anybody, to tell the truth, because you will not see a lot of change. that is the problem. you will not see change, no matter who controls the house. or the senate, and it seems we have the same problem year after year. i'm not quite sure it will change anything. but i don't think the state would actually be behind a rhino romney or a leftist at this point we had for sure. host: former president trump is that he will run again in 2024. what issue should he focus on to likely win the state of utah, but what should he focus on that will resonate? guest: obeying the constitution. if they are out there, saying,

not that america is broken, or we need to do something, but it is addressing the fact that we don't even follow the constitution anymore. that is pathetic. if we lead out in that, i know they will go with the economy. they will go with abortion. all of the buzzwords. that gets people roiled up. i think, at this point, they need to stay out of the economy, and take control of the economy in their own states. then, you would need to observe the role you have, not write a million executive orders, or basically just follow the constitution and not act like a king. right now, we have a king going on. it is disruptive and awful. as we sit around the table, with thanksgiving, we are laughing because we have leftists and rhinos, and just about everyone.

but the leftist in charge of stuffing the turkey were nobody sees. or put the rhinos in charge of dropping a turkey into the deep fryer. that kind of thing. really, kind of make it more fun. we are slowly getting into a place where we are talking about politics, but i think politics is like. it is light. it is putting her life online. we are looking at lockdowns for particular spaces. we are looking at the economy, and i don't want to see a $20 cap. i think that if we had in observance of the thing that could ground us in this country, and stop being like china and being so subservient to them, and also, we could react -- relax a little bit and go to have conversations that are so offended order sensitive, maybe we could have a good conversation about who we support, or who we back, or who you would like in the future to

represent the constitution. that would be a better question than who you want to run things, because right now, we're not seeing any real change, and i don't have any faith in the candidate that has put their name in the hat this point. >> what questions will you ask? >> i think will be talking about the economy. how it is hurting the country, and obviously, we can't ignore that. the progressives haven't done much for the country. we didn't put the progressives back in, so however they got back in, wink wink, that is how they got in, but the country as a whole, we have a majority that is pretty conservative. the liberal progressive minority, the drag show -- let's do a drag show to teach tolerance, that sort of thing, it is really in the minority but we don't hear that very often. i think this country, even in

the calls we are listening to, the calls are very much witnessing what is happening in the country, knowing the country's direction, we are not liking that, and we want to have things drastically different. it will not get different until we obey the law of the land, and having a justice system that is not screwing everyone over, 24/7, and letting other holy people it away with it. in the future, we are talking about that. i think that is very much -- look, what we're doing isn't working, we need to get back to the constitution, we need to get back to america. i don't recognize this america. that is what i think the leftist stepped onto it. because they have control of the media, it makes it so that we don't recognize it, most of the country doesn't recognize it, and honestly, how can these races be tight when you have a majority conservatives in the country. i don't think every race is razor thin or razor tight.

i think they do that to get away with fraud. i think we will have a really honest conversation in that dinner table, and it is good and healthy to talk about what is changing this country back to a country we recognize and love. host: thank you very much. public policy issues that you may be will discuss at your dinner table. or, if you are not talking about an issue, what is an issue you wish you were talking about. rhode island, let's hear from you. caller: happy thanksgiving. i was amazed at that little diatribe by kate. it was -- i think she was auditioning for fox news. the way she brought up election fraud, at least five or six times is disgraceful. the courts, 60 times, 60 times,

all of the false claims by the trump attorneys. they were not only deceitful, but some of these guys are going to lose their elections. as far as trump running for president, as a democrat, i feel trump is a drift that keeps on drifting. he just is literally breaking this country financially. with covid, hiding the importance and acuity of covid, it was disgraceful. i one last point. he overthrew the country. he tried to overthrow the government of the united states. please. get your head out of fox news and try to read something with a little bit more credibility. what i really want to talk about his immigration and inflation. first of all, immigration.

republicans were charged for four years. they are not only not doing anything, but what do they propose? in the last two years, we had 49 people in congress all we need were two or three democrats, and they could enact something in immigration. they complained about immigration because it is good for votes. they don't want to do anything about it. the second thing is inflation. they rally around inflation. i wonder how many republicans are doing that with cranberry sauce. none of them. the poor are most affected by inflation, what have they done? they cut back on the child tax credit, the child tax credit. and also, they cut snap. this is food supplement. they cut food supplement when they were in power. how much do they really want to do about inflation. one last point about inflation. let's remember that for companies control all of the meat packing the united states.

i believe it is five companies control 80% of the retail shopping market. you know why prices are high? why they are going skyhigh? they can. because the producers of this artificially inflated price. thank you. i appreciate it. host: columbus georgia. oh you be talking about at thanksgiving? caller: thank you for letting me be on. i would like to express that my family will not be talking politics because we don't talk politics anymore. it's a waste of time. let me express my opinion about that. people get on and they browbeat trump, and i can browbeat biden that is not the point. we have a government, and if the democrats were in charge, chuck schumer, nancy pelosi, if -- it is that way or no way.

if republicans are in charge, you have mcconnell and mikulski. it is their way or no way. we've got politicians, there are half a dozen or more on each side you are so hateful, when they talk about the other side, they don't make any effort to try and see the real problems, they are getting people to run their campaigns, so they have to do favors for them, and we've got a screwed up government, and it doesn't really make any difference if we talk about it because until we get some fresh blood in there, and some people in there who have the interest of our country at heart, and not their own selfish motives of getting rich or doing a favor, is not going to change because each side acts like if they can't have their way, they're not going to give into your way. they don't care if it is a good idea or not. that's the way i feel about it. i'm sorry. we'll go to brandon. we lost him. gaithersburg, florida.

gaithersburg maryland. good morning. >> morning. i just want to say that, thanksgiving, i don't think i will be talking politics with anyone. but i do think, i don't care if you're on the right or the left. you need to be responsible for your household people. stop blaming everybody else. i wake up in the morning, and i go to work, and i make decisions that drive my family. if you are waiting for donald trump or joe biden to fix your life, you move in the wrong direction. you are moving in the wrong direction. you've got to make a decision for yourself. the presidential position is a different dashed everyone it best. eight years at least, if you're not impeached. listen. if you're waiting for somebody to come into office and fix your

life, i'm telling you, it will not be. host: ted, boston. good morning. is there a policy issue you will be discussing? caller: good morning. i think misinformation, and disingenuous discourse. that might be the talk. that podcast lady got my adrenaline going. just because, it was a lot of minutes of fluff talk. empty fluff talk with a lot of accusations that pit each other against each other, and no evidence whatsoever. that was my problem with conservatives. they are not interested in good faith discussion because it seems like they've defaulted to a motion and line. hatred.

i don't understand it. i really don't. why do they have to interject their arbitrary repression on everyone's lives, and then turn around and point a finger and say everyone else is doing that them? we need to -- i don't know. it is really, i think, we are dealing with something that went wrong, and i'm not sure what it is, if it is the am talk radio, the fox news, the social media, all three, but all the conservatives i know of my life are hateful people, they are angry people, and they you've conservativism to embody some of the most hateful and ugly side of humanity, that there is. that is my problem. >> aubrey in alabama. >> good morning.

i would just like to say that america has gotten away from the true meaning of love which is jesus christ. we are a people that is divided. we have taking a religion, out of schools, prayer out of schools, and the people have just become disgraceful. the thing about this country is that once you learn to revert back to want made this country, what jesus christ did on the cross, then, only then, can we become a whole people. no politicians, no government. whatever. with the problem. the problem with this country, it is the world is simply sin. until we get back to the true meaning of everything that holds our values, they will be lost. have a good thanksgiving. >> will go down to jacksonville no thrilling. good morning. >> morning.

happy thanksgiving. i want to make this short and sweet. i just want to say, this lady that you had appear, she was talking about how conservatives and trump's are all about the constitution, but if that is the case, he should be able to run for president, he shouldn't -- he should be locked up right now, he should be in jail for all the crimes he committed, and other people have committed crimes that he's committed, and they get indicted. my policy, and i will talk about that, his justice. justice and justice. >> before you go, will there be people at your thanksgiving table which disagree with you? >> yes. i have pretty much had family members that are on the far right to listen to breitbart and fox news, and all these crazy white -- right ring -- right wing conspiracy theories. i'm educated and i have a masters degree. i have a bachelors degree in criminal justice. i have teachers and professors that were police officers and

da's. mental health therapist, and what trump has done to this country is poison this country. to the point where he has a cold, and this lady is wrong. it is a call. they don't believe in the constitution. if they believed in the constitution, trump would not be eligible to even run for president. the classified documents from mar-a-lago, if someone did that, they would be locked up. immediately. >> elizabeth in hawaii. hello. is there a policy issue you need to discuss today? >> many. primarily, as a country, we have put our values -- values on. that is a birthright issue. quality health care for all, a preschool education, keeping religion out of education. this is a separation of church

and state issue. our country was founded on that. but i also wanted to discuss the panelist or woman you had with the headset on. the podcast lady. i found it very offensive. you guys gave her too much time. she was spouting a lot of inaccuracies, and clearly, it's all kind of fox news, magna cultists, and talking points, but for some of our country, obviously, millions of us, that is what they believe. for millions of us who do not, we do not believe that, and i agree with the caller from massachusetts, and another one from rhode island, the woman just now he said that trump should be imprisoned for all of his crimes. if any of us had done that of what he had done, consistently, for years. his present -- presidencies we must focus on. he is other crimes from when he

is before president. tax losses and deceit, all of it. the sexual abuses. in any rate, we need to talk about these things. we are on the same page for the most part, were not a big family. it is an issue of being born in this country, and contributing to this country. taxation for all. no one with churches, the ultra-wealthy, they should all pay the same amount of taxes, but the worker bees pay, so those are the things that are important in our household, and i watch that lady with the headset on. that kind of time given to her, like the caller from massachusetts, the caller from rhode island, the woman that was just on before me. i didn't catch what state she was from. there are many of us out here who are offended by that. do we need to hear it? probably. believe it or not, their times that i will watch fox news because i want to hear what

propaganda is being sent out there. host: casey just joined us for the last hour, we were talking to liberal and conservative opinions from around the country for this entire morning. we were trying to find out what they thought people would be talking about in their communities today. as well as, in addition to all of you in conversation. the washington post editorial is feeling grateful on this thanks giving. the wisdom of voters is appreciated, and it's a sign of a widespread movement in a all general direction of common sense. how far we still have to go to resolve our impasse. williams voted for candidates who espouse atlantis -- and out -- outlandish theories. many of them ran on promises to

throw sand in the gears of electoral machinery, and political hacks are put in charge of it. making it harder for legally eligible americans to express their choices at the polls. in arizona, election deniers were defeated with absurd theories about why they continue to circulate on the political range. andrew and fort worth, texas. good morning. wed. -- go ahead. caller: happy thanksgiving. i kind of want to follow up with the comments from the gentleman from rhode island because you know, i want to talk about immigration. we live in fort worth. i moved here about four years ago. maybe five. i families here. my sister, my nieces. my nephews. they're all here. the first thing i want to say about immigration is that in

five years, no one in our family, none of my friends, and i've met none of the people i see in the grocery store, they've never talked about the border. not that it's not an issue, but there are so many other things in texas that are important to people. i know republicans did well in the elections here. but the one thing i do want to say is like the john mack from rhode island said, the border has been, since the caravans, since trump was building a wall, it's been a republican issue that they don't want it to die because it does have voters. voters vote for the wall. if you are 3000 miles away in yellow belly main, and you are a republican, you will believe there is an invasion here like normandie. they're coming across the

border. yes, you get a woman with her baby in a backpack, but they're not caring that. my niece, she is a lot closer to the border. her husband is eight cabinet. in texas. national guard. he is also a police officer in san antonio. he has spent a lot of time of the border, and he does not know one border agent that wants a wall. first of all, is not good for them and their families because it is what is going to do. they don't need 20,000 border agents if they have a wall. he doesn't -- he could use -- lose his $90,000 wall sitting in a pickup truck and nowhere with binoculars, looking for someone to come across the border. once in a while, he sees a straight cow come across the border. there is an immigration issue, and that needs to be settled, and we need border security, but we need to handle the root cause

of what is happening. host: we've asked all of you do: this morning. thank you for doing so. with this policy issue, and what you may discuss at the thanksgiving table. we thought we might end on a lighter note. here is a saturday night live skit from a number of years ago about gathering at the holiday table. >> all right. happy thanksgiving. >> i'm so thankful to have you all here today. >> i'm thankful that i only burned the turkey a little bit. >> i am thankful that our governor is not going to let those refugees in here. >> oh my god. >> i heard the refugees are all agency disguise. >> i saw an article about that.

>> no you didn't. that was an asian woman. >> i've have a question for you. why is it that your friends keep antagonizing the police? why would you ask my boyfriend that? >> i'm trying to get to know them all. >> excuse me. >> he's just that kind. [applause] ♪ ♪ quik-trip renders her here. >> maybe a little adele at the

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