generous with your time as your predecessors but we appreciate that you have managed to do it for christmas. you've also answered the questions very fully. whether satisfactorily or not. thank you very much and i'm sure the committee would like to wish you and your family a very good christmas. i would like to wish my committee a good christmas as well. >> c-span is your unfiltered view of government. full funding provided by these television companies and more. including charter communication. >> charter has invested billions in broadband building infrastructure, upgrading technology, empowering

opportunity in communities big and small. >> january 6 committee finished its hearing yesterday. you can still see the whole hearing on our website at c-span.org. you can still watch yesterday's proceedings at our app c-span now. when it comes to the specific referrals, it was representative jamie raskin who laid out the specific referrals the committee plans to make to the justice department. >> the first is title 18, sexton 1512 c, making it unlawful for anyone to corrupt the obstruct, influence, or impede any official proceeding of the united states government. we believe the evidence described by my colleagues today , assembled throughout the

hearings, warrants the criminal referral of former president donald j. trump, john eastman, and others for violations of this statute. the entire purpose and obvious effect of trump's scheme were to obstruct, influence, and impeded this official proceeding. the central moment for the lawful transfer of power in the united states. second, we believe there is more than sufficient evidence to refer former president donald j. trump, john eastman and others for violating title 18, section 371. this statute makes it a crime to conspire to defraud the united states. in other words, to make an agreement to impair, obstruct, or defeat the lawful functions of the united states government

by deceitful or dishonest means. the former president did not engage in a plan acting alone, he -- entered into formal and informal agreements with several other individuals who have -- assisted him with his criminal objectives. our report describes in detail the actions of numerous co-conspirators who agreed with or participated in the trump plan to defeat the certification of president biden's electoral victory. that said, the subcommittee does not attempt to determine all of the tensile participants in the conspiracy as our understanding of the roles of many individuals may be incomplete even today because they refused to answer our questions. we trust that the department of justice will be able to form a far more complete picture through its own investigation. third, we make a referral based

on title viii section 1001 making it unlawful to knowingly and willfully make materially false statement to the federal government, evidence clearly an attempt to submit fake collectors to congress and the national archives. we believe the evidence in the report is more than sufficient for a criminal referral of former president donald j. trump and others in connection with the offense. as with before we don't try to determine all the participants in the conspiracy, many of whom refuse to answer questions under oath. we trusted that the department of justice will be able to form a more complete picture through its own investigation. the fourth and final statute for referral is title 18, section 2383, applying to anyone sites, assists, or engages in

insurrection against the united states of america and anyone who gives aid or comfort to insurrection. insurrection being rebellion against the authority of the united states. it is a grave federal offense anchored in the constitution itself that repeatedly opposes insurrections and domestic violence and uses participation in insurrection by officeholders as automatic grounds for disqualification from ever holding public office again at the federal or state level. host: if you support the referrals being made by the committee, call us at (202) 748-8000. if you oppose them, (202) 748-8001. if you want to text us, it's (202) 748-8003. former president trump making a series of statements on his true

social platform yesterday when it came to the referrals. he starts by saying these folks don't get it, when they come after me, people who love freedom rally around me, strengthens me, what doesn't kill me makes me stronger. i pushed for troops to prevent violence on the sixth and called for everyone to go home. the democratic bureau of investigation is out to keep me from running for president because they know i will win and the business of prosecuting me is like the impeachment, and attempt to sideline the republican party. it's impeachment hoax number two and i won, convincingly. double jeopardy. finishing the statements by saying that liz cheney lost by a record 40 points.

you can find more on that plat, there. a supporter of the referrals, starting off with sandra in lummis, ohio. go ahead. caller: good morning, how are you? host: i'm well, thanks. caller: i support all of the way they presented that information in the investigations they did. the one thing i liked about it was in an intelligent way. republicans in their investigations, i hope they look at what the panel did, the 160th. i can't stand jim jordan kicking and screaming and carrying on like he did in the house. the other thing i want to say real quickly is that this was a thing where these were all

republicans. it wasn't democrats downing republicans. it was all republican witnesses letting you know what was going on. thank you. host: robert, illinois, on the oppose line. go ahead. caller: it's a dog and pony show. half of them people of their trying to impeach a president over a made up democratic story. eyes see government spending money to fight the government and people keep paying for it. the only person killed was a veteran, shot by an incompetent cop. i'm baffled how the gall of these people, sitting there when

there is so much wrong in this country. burnt down cities. black lives matter. they are not terrorists? white privilege? i'm white, i'm not a criminal. i don't burn cities down. i'm scratching my head going these people are sick. what's sad is half the republicans are that way, too. it's all about the money. how much can we scam the american people before they squeal. host: one of the aspects will be referring to the house ethics committee. a subpoena for lawmakers sent to the ethics committee for investigation by the january 6 committee, including kevin mccarthy of california and representative jim jordan in

ohio, and andy biggs of arizona. we will hear from willie in annapolis, maryland, supporter of criminal referrals. you are next, go ahead. caller: yes i definitely support the way the committee handled this. if the president is punished, how will he be punished? sent to regular prison? if they do, i wonder how much taxpayers will pay for his separate quarters. will he be going to a country club? yes, i support this. i don't know what kool-aid the last caller was talking about about black lives. i feel offended by that. black lives matter did not attack the capitol like these people did in these people really kind of scare me because i don't know what else they are doing. i think about the grid in north alina. who knows what these nuts may do . yes, i think it was perfect what

they did. host: again we will spend the hour looking at these criminal referrals and your opinion of that. kevin, michigan, hello. caller: yeah i've just been watching this for the last couple of days. for one, this january 6 kangaroo court is illegitimate. for one, they don't have the jurisdictional duty to, to hold these kinds of hearings. they got, they got nothing to do with, they are changing the separations of power in our country, stating that, that congress can go after people. yeah, it's not right. we have enough issues. to all you democrats out there, i wanted to say something about the border. host: no, we will stop there and stick to the topic at hand as

far as the january 6 committee is concerned. sean saying this was a kangaroo court. a person who identifies as a snowman says that the department of justice must indict, the evidence is overwhelming, lock him up. anthony from twitter saying the laws -- walls are closing in for real. another viewer says the nonsense is meant to disqualify trump from running, the goal of the kangaroo court from day one. want to post on our twitter feed, you can do so at c-span wj. diane, jacksonville, support line. go ahead. caller: i am in support. no man in the united states is above the law. i don't consider it a kangaroo court and i'm a republican. i feel that they had all republicans testify.

if you commit a crime against the united states, of course it should be investigated. they are not prosecuting anyone. it's an investigation, hearing. at the hearing they found a lot of dirt being done and people refusing to testify setting a bad example for everyday americans who are also subpoenaed to court, who are also called for julie duty. so what, now they set this example that we can all do that and get away with it? of course the department of justice needs to test a to why they refused to testify. host: ok that is diane. the justice department conducting its own separate investigation of january 6 under a special counsel when it comes to her recommendations of the committee on usa today highlighting what has been done as far as recommendations are

concerned and where the status is, recommending criminal charges of contempt of congress against four people, including steve bannon, peter navarro, who is awaiting trial, and no charges yet for mark meadows or danced aveeno, former deputy chief of staff. they have charged more than 800 people in the capital attack, two members of the oath keepers convicted of seditious conspiracy. when it comes to these criminal prosecutions, phone lines are for support or oppose. good morning, earl. caller: it's nothing but a sham. they have been after trump for six years. the man has never gotten a deep draft.

these people calling in on the democrats side, they must be, i don't know who is paying them but this is crazy. our country needs to be straight out loud. look at the border. might go down to the border. host: we will stick to the topic at hand. let's hear from wendi in clinton township, michigan, on the support line. caller: good morning, pedro. merry christmas. host: thank you. caller: i listened yesterday. when are they going to finally get trump and put him in jail? he has done so much wrong. i heard him yesterday and thinking they did it again. he just keeps making it worse for himself. he seems to think he's above all this. i'm tired of listening to him. he thinks he can get away with

murder and just anything he says, i can do this? no. host: do you think the justice department will do anything with these referrals? caller: i hope so. i would really like to see someone come down on him. the only way they are going to do it is to get the justice department after him. he cannot run for anymore offices because he just is, it's, it's criminal. i just want to see him not be able to run for any office again. so that's what i want to see. host: that's wendi in michigan. one of the respondents yesterday was mike pence on fox news, before the criminal referrals came. here's the former vice president's take on the work of the committee. [video clip] >> to have a committee appointed in its entirety by the

democratic speaker of the house really violates the history of the tradition of congress in the united states. in 2007 i was the ranking member on a select committee that looked into voting irregularities that took place on the floor of the congress. we had proper representation of both political parties, all parties were allowed to ask questions of witnesses and we produced a report at the end. this, this, this select committee from the beginning has, has, has represented a kind of partisan pain and it's one of the reasons why so few americans are paying much attention to what will happen today or the results are recommendations of the committee. >> if you feel that way and answer it that way, you don't believe it should be a criminal case referred to the department of justice? >> well, i wrote this in my book, how many times adam schiff

said there was evidence of collusion with russia. two and a half years we listened to adam schiff talk about that and it was never there. let me be very clear about this point. congress has, has no formal role in justice department decisions. they can make recommendations today but when it comes to their decision about, about, about bringing charges in the future, i would hope they would not bring charges against the former president. i don't, look, as i wrote in my book, i think his actions and words on january 6 were reckless. but i don't know that it's criminal to take bad advice from lawyers. host: again, former vice president mike pence yesterday before the criminal referrals came from the january 6 committee. as reaction from some members of

congress, ed markey says that the american people today are in debt to the committee for their work to uncover and document the fraud committed and violence stoke by donald trump and it's clear he belongs in a jailhouse, not the white house. a representative from new jersey saying that they were the first to demand the trump prosecution and if we fail to hold him accountable, future january 6's will happen and we lurch towards authoritarian rule. they are expected to ask for a pursuit of criminal charges and it has always been a partisan witchhunt to that the american people are sick of and marjorie taylor greene posting charts taking a look at sources, we don't know exactly, but as far as the reelection possibilities of the president she writes here's the real reason this communist committee is making terminal referrals, they can't beat him and they know it,

january is coming. those are just some of the reactions from congress when it comes to the actions of the committee yesterday. mississippi on the oppose line, hello. caller: yes this is a kangaroo committee that had an agenda to criticize and chastise the former president. he's extremely popular in mississippi and he will carry mississippi by a big vote if he runs for president of the united states. we have got to stop all of the corruption within the fbi and all these folks and cleanup, clean up everything. trump is the man outside government. he doesn't have anything to do with, with, with big government. i'm totally opposed.

they should have had a complaint committee [indiscernible] equal democrats if they want to be fair. but they don't want to be fair. it's sad, sad, sad. thank you for listening to me. host: roy and florida. hi. caller: yeah i, i, i support. here's the problem with the situation. trump is not the only one who should be held accountable. the senate republicans who stood up and voted with the for the overture in the election should all be thrown also along with him. this is ridiculous. failure to prosecute trump could actually be a breakdown of law & order if the justice department doesn't do it and it shows they are very weak and that one man is above the law.

with all trump floaters who can't see through this for some reason, the guys a scum bucket, he always has been. how many trump supporters does it take to screw in a lightbulb? none, they are all in the dark. my mother included. they just don't understand. how can you be christian if you believe in someone like this? this guy is a devil from always. i a republican, to. i used to be. not anymore. i've seen this party go all the way down. i'll never vote for a republican again after what these people did. host: the committee is expected to release the report later on this week. some of the factoids coming out or being reported, this is from "the washington post," the weapons seized on january 6, a

document produced by the capitol police shows secret service confiscated a haul of weapons, 240 two canisters of pepper spray, 269 blades, 18 tasers, body armor, three gas masks, blunt instruments, and miscellaneous items like screwdrivers. those were just the people who submitted to going through the magnetometer. the report adds that thousands of others purposefully remained outside the magnetometer or left their packs outside, with six cases in which people were observed carrying guns or what looked like guns before the presidential speech began. that is again "the washington post or co-massachusetts, opposing the criminal referrals. go ahead. caller: any chance i will be

allowed to talk or will i be shut off like all the other republican? host: we are talking about the criminal referrals, go ahead. caller: the most important election of all time is going to be audited for handwriting. if they get around the legislature. in one place it was more ballots than it was people who voted. so that doesn't make any sense. another problem is -- host: that's the election itself, what about the criminal referrals, what do you think about them? caller: we eliminate the competition. how come democrats want a one party country? it's going to be all democrats from here on in. that's democracy? host: i will give you one more chance to comment on the criminal referrals yesterday made by the committee. what do you think of those? caller: i just told you. they want to eliminate the guy

running that's possibly going to beat and one last thing before you hang up on me. hunter biden -- host: i'll stop there. connecticut, support line. caller: yeah, i support it. the republican future of america is mass shootings and the norm is going to be insurrections. they don't care about the law. fox news didn't even mention it this morning. that tells you a lot. host: how does that relate to the referrals yesterday? caller: republicans testified against him. if you can't believe your own republican leaders, you know, in the white house, they all testified against him. the attorney general testified against him. judges