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website at student cam.org. >> c-span is your unfive-minutered view of government -- unfive-minutered view of -- unfiltered view of government. including buckeye pwropbd band. pwropbd band. buckeye broad banupports c-span as a public service along with these other television providers giving you a front row seat to democracy. twitter and . if it is not kevin mccarthy, who is your choice? who would be your choice, or do
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you think he has the ability to rally those votes that he lost yesterday? you probably heard them say, we do not have a willing partners. if you were a democrat, who video in my? akeem jeffries did come out on top. they need the 218 what members voting in each tally yesterday. just to set the scene of where things are for the u.s. house come this and it came in, they elected their new leadership. a tree from david, who was senior correspondent. he says this. it was pointed out to me that the u.s. congress is not a functioning body because the house is not constituted.
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without power to approve legislation. about the process, it is possible that allies of speaker mccarthy could called for a recess. there is increasing worry that the problem is worse, not better. a look at the lead this morning. the headline of the morning report. house gop is stuck and in disarray. cheyenne daniels is joining us this morning. what can you tell us about where his position stands as speaker? guest: thank you for having me. that is one of the best words to describe where we are right now.
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it is unclear what is going to happen. the problem is, until we have the speaker in position, we cannot move on. you cannot swear in the new members. and then it also puts in issue in some plans. right now, disarray is the right word to describe what we are seeing. but they are trying to do is see what else he has to do to get the votes that went to representative jim jordan yesterday because we saw on new year's day there was a list of
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confessions. clearly, that was not enough for them. what else are you looking for? a lot of it comes down that concert of his want more conservatives. they are not happy with the direction the party is going. mccarthy needs to talk with them to say what else do we need to do for you to cast your vote for me, or do we need to move on and see who else could win enough votes? host: there are 222 members elected for the congress, so the vast majority of republicans voting for kevin mccarthy. what have you heard about the process yesterday and what they hope will happen?
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>> when we look at who could potentially be a different person, there are some eyes out there. we saw jordan get those votes, but it is we are throwing our support behind mccarthy. there was even the idea of those who do not vote for mccarthy do not get committee appointments. they are then expressed idea that those not voting -- there is a lot of frustration building up. a lot of the party is ready to move on and tackle the idea and policies that they put forward on their campaigning trail. host: years since that we are not going to see an extended
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validating procedure like we might have seen 100 years ago? guest: i think the air. those outliers do seem to be growing again. many said that they would not be supporting kevin mccarthy and by the end, there were 2011 voted for jordan. they do keep bringing up the fact that it has been 100 years since vm not been able to get a speaker in that first round of ballots. those who do not mind those -- taking the time, they are doing it because they think this is what their constituents want. meanwhile, other ones voting for kevin mccarthy sake, until we get this done, we cannot do what
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needs to be done. until then, let's move forward. host: thank you for the update this morning. back to the tree about the stall that is, that has not actually begun, in the event of a crisis, the chamber would have to be sworn in first, which is another reason why members will be kept in d.c. for the weekend. first up is andy in sterling, virginia. caller: good morning. for all of my fellow americans
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who thought that voting republican was the best way to go for this country that we needed a divided government, for those americans who thought that republicans would truly be interested in addressing the needs of the americans like the price of food, energy, the border, they have basically lied to you. they will not get anything done in the next couple of years. they cannot even elect their own speaker of the house. how pathetic. they will try to get your vote and in the process will not do anything to make this country better. the republicans are never interested in governing. they are great at getting elected, but once they are placed in power, they will not do anything to help this country get better.
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caller: good morning. how are you today? i'm wondering why they have to wait until noon to start anything in the capital. most american people do not have to wait until noon to start their day. why can't they start at 8:00 or 7:00? that is kind of a question for me. host: that is a good question. we know that the conference is meeting at some point this morning. the house will meet getting at noon to give members returning a chance to get back to the nation's capital. in cincinnati, annabelle is next on the republican line. caller: i went to my congressman's office and i said,
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there are no civil right groups for white americans. we have no representation, no civil rights, no voice. so, i want the republican party to stop being complicit with the democratic party and start standing up for their babies. the fact that the republican party has allowed the people who protested on january 6 to remain in jail is absolutely criminal. i want to see someone go in there, who will give you something for my white vote representation, civil rights, a voice. host: here is the front page of the wall street journal this morning. carthy fails in three votes. it underlines the factious nature of the, on its first day
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after four years of a democratic majority. after the third vote was tallied with no winner, the house adjourned until wednesday, but the question is still up in the air. the speaker vote had not gone past a first ballot since 1923, when they needed nine ballots to pick a leader. your calls and comments. for independent and others -- live coverage resuming just before noon eastern today. paula, calling from missouri. independent line. caller: i'm glad i got in today.
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i was in my bathroom all day yesterday. this is embarrassing. i think they need to come up with a compromise. frankly, i think steve scalise has a better temperament to be speaker than the other two. host: why do you think that? caller: i have watched him. i guess you could call me a c-span junkie. i watched c-span every day and i have watched in action. he has a nice personality. he has had his share of troubles with the shooting and everything , but he just conducts himself just better than the other two. host: how much support do you think somebody like steve scalise would have in the republican conference? if they were to put forth the name of steve scalise -- he was
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one of the three nominees or nominators for kevin mccarthy, yesterday. caller: that may well be, but i think people are looking for a compromise. after those three votes, this seems like a stalemate. they have to get this done because this is just really embarrassing. host: here is a steve scalise and some of what he had to say head of the third vote for speaker. his nomination speech for kevin mccarthy. here is part of that. >> we all came here to get things done, to solve the problem. i hope when we get through today that all the members on both sides will join together to solve the problems, to address inflation that is crushing middle-class families, to get control over spending.
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>> mama house be in order? >> we have been proposing legislation for a long time. over a year ago to get members engaged in the process. not just talking about what the problems are. we know what those problems are, but how do you fix those problems? we started rolling those bills out. we attempted to bring -- lower the cost of goods when families go to the grocery store and they cannot even buy all the food that they need for their family. but those rules were projected. we have such horrible energy policies under what president biden has done to shut down american energy that families
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cannot afford to put gas in their tanks. so we brought legislation to the floor to lower the cost of gasoline and those bills were rejected by the previous majority. i use that term for a reason. we want a majority talking about the problems, but we cannot start fixing those problems until we elect kevin mccarthy is our next speaker. host: he failed to get the votes in that tally as well. live coverage here on c-span. let's hear from jim in pennsylvania. caller: good morning. i think this is a sign of people being fed up with party in washington dc. we need to get back to regular order, where bills are brought up and debated, in public, not behind closed doors.
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the day before, where nobody has a chance to go through them, and then vote on them. this is the rebellion from that kind of legislating. host: you see this as a fault of republicans. caller: democrats have been that kind of party for the last few years. they all work together. the people that come from the country does not have a lot of swing down there, they do not have any power. it is the elite in both parties. that is why we have to drain the swamp. host: richard, independent line.
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caller: i would like to make to be over point. one of them on mccarthy and the other on gaetz. democracy. the fact that kevin mccarthy has not lived up to two what conservatives one is why this is happening the majority did not want vaccine mandates. also, in california, gavin newsom put a brutal lockdown. he was relatively silent on the abuses that happened in california. so much from those brutal lockdowns.
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just recently, conservatives -- conservative that 45 billion should have gone to ukraine. kevin mccarthy has enriched himself in congress. he is worth over $50 million. so kevin mccarthy is the definition of someone who does not represent what conservative people one. matt gaetz, who is probably the most talented person in congress , is finally coming into his own. he is breaking with trump.
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he said, trump makes a lot of mistakes. if you could please play the clip of matt gaetz and chairman jordan yesterday, that would be wonderful. it spoke to say because kevin mccarthy is not the person who should be speaker. why should he be gifted the speakership? what has kevin mccarthy done? what has he done to inherit that position? host: we will play the comment in just a little bit. he did nominate jim jordan in one of the second round. this is from the hill, and
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effort to keep representative mccarthy out. asking why mccarthy is occupying the speaker's office. questioning why kevin mccarthy -- the speaker of the house office is currently occupied by representative mccarthy. as of this morning come the congress and a speaker has not been elected. after three undecided votes, no member can make name to this office. let's hear from joe on the democrats line. elk grove, california. >> thank you for taking my call.
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matt gaetz was one of the problems that this country has when we change the makeup of the house. the elected people who are not ready to govern. how could you come and not have a leader ready to govern? i do not understand. matt gaetz and all those people that derailed this country, something is wrong. american people are getting what we deserve. it's taking a beating and go home because we voted and we put those people in, and now we are getting the results of some of the errant votes that we made. i know this is a democracy, but we cannot tell on the 11th of january. we get what we get. we put these people in and they were not ready to govern. look at the state of our
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congress. suppose something happened tomorrow that needed everyone to make it go away. we get what we get and we deserve. so people should not be complaining. let's see if we can ride this one out. because right now, this is ludicrous. watching this is really interesting. host: good morning. caller: good morning. i have so much to say. i do not know how much i will actually be able to get out. i am from florida and matt gaetz, to me, he is a humiliation and embarrassment beyond measure. this is a man that i supported
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in terms of what i thought he stood for. what he is doing now is no more than grandstanding and getting back at those who appeared to have hurt him in the past. i am so embarrassed and humiliated by this man's behavior, that i hope he does not get reelected and his political career is over. that is number one. number two, the marjorie later he -- lady from colorado, how dare she say, we demand that jim jordan take this spy. george washington did not want to be the first president, but he surrendered, and we are going to make jim jordan surrender. how dare you? who do you think you are?
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you represent your district. that is it. host: there were comments about steve scalise nominating mccarthy. the first round of votes was the nomination of mccarthy was introduced by a congresswoman from new york. here is part of her comment. >> no one in this party has worked harder than kevin mccarthy. [applause] since the day he was elected as our leader, house republicans have only. house republicans are the only ones who have can distantly won because kevin knows what we stand for. he knows when we should engage in the fight and he knows how to
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build consensus. kevin has done the work of listening to all americans, traveling to nearly every district in the country, fighting for conservative values and fighting for the people committed to upholding them. kevin has shown up in these communities and i can guarantee he has shown up in the district of many colleagues across the aisle as well. representing our greatness from all walks of life. when the last congress came in, every new republican welcomes and was a woman or minority. the most diverse republican conference in our nation's history. [applause]
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a seasoned legislator and experienced leader, a friend to tell -- to so many of us. kevin mccarthy has earned the speakership of the people's house. host: that republican conference with eating this morning to find a way forward as the house comes back in at noon today to talk about electing a new speaker after failing three times yesterday. you are hearing all kinds of names out there. this is chief political reporter for detroit news with a tweet this morning saying that retired republican is willing to come
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back and be speaker saying, i would need democrats. i could get a significant number of republicans. josephine is waiting. go-ahead. livingston, new jersey. >> over a month ago, i said, i'm only too happy to have republicans because once they get in, you'll see the fiasco. i did not have to wait long to be proven right. when you talked about mccarthy and scalise, their nicknames are the benghazi twins. they finally said there is nothing there. he knows how to waste money. and then he spoke to the king, kissed his ring and said, i'm
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all for you. the number one thing pushing through, the man paid $750? i paid $80,000. i guess i'm just a stupid, law-abiding citizen. they will be repealing all the good that has been done to help people get on. i'm just disgusted with them, but they are displaying. host: next, glendale, arizona. caller: good morning. i do not see why anybody would want the job. it is like in the starting goalie in the nhl all-star game. on that note, and for a penny, in for a pound. host: talking about george
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santos, one of the representative selects from new york, in particular, he 10 is on the republican line. go-ahead. caller: i absolutely back the 20 republicans because they do need to update the rules. they need to be able to put bills through, single item bills that can be put in come in time to be read and understood by everybody, before they vote on them. that is what these guys and girls are trying to do. mccarthy is wanting to play the same routine. he is as bad for us as lindsey graham from south carolina. i hope that they do make some headway with the vote. host: thank you, but who else in the republican conference might
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be able to get the 218 votes needed to become speaker? caller: if they go into conference honestly, you still could have a mccarthy or a steve scalise, but they will have to realize that the rules have got to be needed, and the individual representatives count for something. right now, it is all party. that is what they are trying to get across to their fellow republicans. mccarthy needs to wake up and smell the car -- smell the coffee. these people are not grandstanding. they are doing what we pay them to do, to go up there and stand
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up to the system. they need to be able to fix the system. mccarthy has the ability to do it, if you will listen. host: nashville, tennessee, hello. >> -- caller: they cannot fix the system until they have a speaker of the house, so they were not organized in this rebellion or whatever you call this. i do not want kevin mccarthy either, but they should have been a bit more organized and figured out how they are going to elect someone. all these people calling in on the republican line, saying how embarrassed they are, how mortified, oh how horrible this is? that is what they get for electing a bunch of dummies who do not know how government works.
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those people up there do not even know how our government functions, and also, why are they letting people have not been sworn in, vote on this? host: as of the members get sworn in new with each congress, so even kevin mccarthy has not been sworn in and cannot be sworn in until they elect a speaker. that is the conundrum that they are in, so technically, the congress has yet to begin and cheryl johnson, the clerk of the house is right now in charge of the house floor action until they reelect a speaker. they will swear in all the members, but the process, it is elected by all the members,
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brand-new and those who have been there a long time. caller: we are in a very dangerous time right now. this makes our country extremely vulnerable. for them to full around with this? it is dangerous. this is totally unacceptable, to me. it is irresponsible. they think -- they think they can play around with this stuff? this is crazy stuff. host: let's hear from the democrat line. caller: i do not think i have ever listened to one of these call in hours and agreed with so many republicans. i agree that the reason this is happening, that is the direction that the republican party is going and it is showing. the democrats have been held
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hostage by a small minority for the past two years, looking at you, kyrsten sinema and joe manchin. now you know how it feels to have someone in your party will not fall in line or let things get through. but i wanted to say that i remember back a few months ago when kevin mccarthy released this commitment to america plan, i remember going on his website and looking at the plan. i was like, this is really humiliating that this is how they, general -- even looking down, you go on the website and pull this up, all the points that he makes are either so vague that there is no actionable way to implementing the things he wants to do, or he is focusing on very specific
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things. i cannot imagine somebody voting on the idea that only women -- only the men -- it is taking aim at trans sports. it is embarrassing that they voted for these people supporting these principles and ideas when there is no way to put them in practice or they just do not matter in the everyday american's life. that is what mccarthy is wanting is to distract from the real issues and put up fake promises that he has no intention of keeping. caller: good morning. you are watching democracy right now. we have not had a representative republic since the people put
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donald trump in as president. he watched the russia collusion and you are watching a democracy with jill biden, vladimir putin's buddy. the green agenda, we have flooding going on, we have people and americans in need, living in the streets, but we are bringing in more people from all over the world, all under their democracy because it is not a constitutional republic when you pass this kind of bill and take away ame
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>> to write a tax code that rewards hard work not wealth. to invest in clean energy that reduces our country's dependence on fossil fuels. from voting rights to reproductive rights. we are united, madam clerk. host: some comments on social media and via text. our text line is 202-748-8003. how can american constituents have confidence in the 118th congress when the majority g.o.p. is defective by votes within their own parties? it is clear that the swamp is the 20 congresspeople trying to manipulate their own party while putting the economy on hold, says michelle in illinois. jimbo in bakerfields, california. independent, kevin mccarthy couldn't run a sandwich shop here. it's time to come home and stop humiliating himself and community he doesn't represent.
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elaine on 2008er said, absurd, perhaps it wouldn't be bad if constituents were explained why not mccarthy. we are dominate tpha*eting someone give specifics. why not the other person and why your candidate f this keeps up they are going to lose voters even though they support conservative policies. and this one says, the elected republicans are showing actual diversity you srao point. a great sign for america. marching in lockstep under orders as elected democrats have been doing means voters have no real representation. i'm cheering for those who actually represent their constituents. back to calls. on the independent line in san diego, california. good morning. caller: good morning. someone asked the question what did the constituents elected people for. what they for paul gosar, marjorie taylor tkpwrao*efpb, and other republicans to go to the white nationalist rally in orlando and take the mic after
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nick fuentes praised hitler and putin? i am so glad i'm not a republican anymore. i'm marine. the republican party is the largest white supremacy organization there is. steven scalise everybody is pumping up. he admitted to speaking at the european american unity and rights organization, an extremist group founded by david duke. breitbart reported that steve scalise said i'm david duke without the bag. even a right wing group said that about steve scalise. he was allowed to speak at the pro-life rally. what does that mean? that guest invited charles johnson, a known holocaust denier, to trump's state of the union address, and he lied and said he didn't know anything about him. he was seen again with him in california.

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