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when it comes as a border security and immigration matters, what would you say is the republic's philosophy? guest: the republicans are focused on the current policies at the border. they want to make it more difficult for people to come across. there was a cut back on parole -- they want to cut back on parole. the focus is on trying to lower those numbers and crackdown on people who are to the -- cross the border illegally. host: some of the specifics will be funding the border enfoemttrategy, talking about that catch and poll, it will require proof of legal status and eliminate welfare incentives. how would republicans describe that? guest: the talk about the use of

parole. officially people have to go through the process in order to come into the country legally, they have to apply for asylum. at times our system is overrun and we have seen that over the past three years. there have been large numbers of people comes across the border, apply for asylum, border officials will release people under parole and are given court dates and go through the legal process. republicans have said this has been overly used. that administration has been using this process and releasing too many people and there needs to be a different option when resources are overwhelmed. there should be a different option such as returning people to mexico, forcing people to wait on the other side of the break or by the cases go through. there are big issues with releasing people before they have been granted legal visa or means of staying in the country.

host: would you say house republicans are united with the alternate ideas to change the system? guest: i would say by a large most republicans are in favor of focusing on the enforcement side of immigration and internal policies, moving in a different direction then democrats. they're not interested as much as providing legal pathways to migrants who are already here. in the broad scope of things, republicans tend to be in agreement, but it is when you get down to the details for the line start to break out and people have different meanings on the best approaches. host: you talked about the moderates. guest: the moderates may not be as eager to allow so much leeway to limit people from accessing asylum. that is one thing immigration advocates are concerned about. we will make it difficult for

people to pursue asylum, i rightly believe people should have in this difficult situation. others may want to see some pathways for dreamers, dr. is still popular but that is not something that we are hearing house republicans talk about. host: the small majority they have that to be careful of how they approach to satisfy the moderates? guest: exactly. looking at the speaker election. all of it takes is a handful of republicans who are not on board and suddenly nothing can get done. host: our guest this with us till 8:45 a.m. if you want to ask her questions about the border issues and house republicans. democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. if you live in a border state, 202-748-8003.

also that same number to text us, 202-748-8003. mark green is the chair of the homeland security committee. what does that mean? guest: he has been very critical of the biden administration. he has been critical and he has made it clear that he intends to use his position on the committee to investigate how the administration has handled the situation at the border. he has made it clear who is at fault, it is one of three committees. they plan to investigate the border issues, immigration, the policies the by the administration has taken. this is something he cares a lot about. i climb in the hall the other day and he was telling reporters there is going to be in the process of investigation and to

he sees clear buckets he thinks that are worth investigating. host: why the main concerns -- what are the main concerns? guest: republicans say he has not done we need to be done to keep the southern border safe and secure. they take issue with some of the policies he has issued. there are personal concerns the department of homeland security has not been forthcoming. they asked for information and i'm sure that will be a running theme once we start seeing the committee form and have the hearings going forward. i'm expecting them get into parole as we talked about. and also rolling back some of the trump administration policies. we have heard over and over from republicans they think the trump era policies should have remained in place, such as remain in mexico. they'll be a focus. host: when it comes to a

legislative vehicle, how long until we see something come out of the committees? guest: we can see it come soon. there movement on policies as soon as the spring we will see that they exceed out. right now they are figure out who will be on the committee and organize. it is a process that has to be gone through before they can hold hearings. we will start seeing movement in the next couple of weeks as they start to plan to hearings and investigations. host: stef kight from axios joining us for this conversation.

host: will stick to border issues. guest: they mentioned that politicians need to stick

together. i agree with that. we have not seen any changes to border laws in a long time. that is one reason why there has been large numbers at be border and we do not have resources to allow people to come in in an orderly way and humane way. i think on both sides of the aisle, congress needs to take a look at immigration law and do something more permanent and not leave everything to the executive branch of change policies one administration to the next. that uncertainty is why some experts say we continue to see such large numbers. host: the caller mentioned order patrol is overrun. we saw president biden's trip to el paso a couple weeks ago. what is border patrol saying about what is going on when it comes to the biden administration? guest: we have heard from border patrol and border patrol unions which are frustrated with the biden administration and have been for the past few years. there has been a lot going on at the southern border, especially

depending on which sector they are working in. at any given point in time, we see the flows of migrants ships. when there overrun, they are open run. they may have to work overtime. there is a sense of general frustration about policies go beyond just border patrol logistics. there is really a bigger policy issue that needs to be fixed. host: keith in las vegas, democrat line. caller: i would like to make the comment that the additional traffic that is showing up at our borders, a lot of it has to do with republicans getting on tv and in the news, saying the border is open. they should really do something about that because there are actually people in those other countries using it as a promotional tool to get people to sign up to be trafficked to

the border. i do not believe the border is open just to where you can walk across it and we do not say that enough. guest: you raise a good point about messaging. that is something we hear a lot from both sides of the aisle. the biden administration has changed its own messaging tactics. they spent money to kind of put messages out into these central american and south american companies that say do not travel to the u.s.-mexico border and cross illegally, that is dangerous. messaging does play a role in it. whether republicans going on tv and encouraging people to cross the border, that may play a role. but when people are in poverty or danger, if they decide they need to flee their country, they are going to flee their country and there are few messaging tactics that will prevent them from doing that. host: the caller said they did

not believe the border was open. but apprehensions tell us? guest: that is a difficult question. there is a lot to focus about is the border open or closed. it is both. it depends on where you are coming from and how. depending on where nationality, you may see a very different situation at the border. we have seen two back to back record is. monthly numbers continue to be high. there is certainly an idea that people feel like they can come now or need to come down to they are fleeing really devastating conversations in their home country and that side of the story is good to remind people of. he also are continuing to use trump area policies, pandemic era policies, title 42, to push back people who are trying to come across the border. it is not as if the biden administration is doing nothing to keep people at bay. they have already been criticized from the left to

continue using this policy and expanding the use of this policy to push migrants that are not from mexico. host: what is the expectations of the supreme court decide to lift title 42? guest: if the supreme court decides to lift it, there may be a surge. that is always the expectation that any change in policy that would come quickly but result in a surge. a lot will depend on how the biden administration plans for the potential and. they have talked about new policies that allow them to send back to mexico not only venezuelans but nicaraguans, cubans, annotations which are the larger nationalities we are seeing -- haitians which are the larger nationalities we are seeing. they are climbing to ramp up title 48, not title 42. they will find other ways that

may limit people which may push down the numbers. host: we are going to hear next from a kimberly in arizona. good morning. caller: it floors me that people can sit there and say the border is not open. it is open. it is intentional. if i kept things in place when he came in, i would have been fine with him. excuse me for saying this but mayorkas has lied to congress. i watch him all the time in his hearings. the borders are open, period, end of story. i have people that are border patrol agent and they are overwhelmed. our own people are in danger become -- because of this. we accept migrants legally. it is not america's problem to take care of every country. this is frustrating. enough already. i do not understand how people can sit there and say it is close.