tv Washington Journal Open Phones CSPAN January 30, 2023 11:06am-12:01pm EST
11:06 am
to washington come anytime, anywhere. >> in just about a year, first votes are scheduled to be cast in the 2024 democratic presidential primary and if a proposal supported by president joe biden is approved, south carolina would vote first, changing the primary process. we go back to previous joe biden campaigns and hear what he said that -- what he said then. you can find "the weekly" on the c-span mobile app or wherever you get your podcasts. >> c-span is your unfiltered view of government. we are funded by these television companies and more, including comcast. >> are you thinking is just a committee center?
11:07 am
it is more than that. >> comcast is partnering with 1000 communi centers to get theools they need to be ready for anything. >> comcast support c-span as a public service along with these other television providers, giving you a front row seat to democracy. >> news literacy project is a nonprofit taking a look at issues of accountability and trust. the sources from last week's news literacy week. a lot of postings and papers in news media outlets. it also had a story by scripps news service and a story that says public perception and attentiveness depends on what is happening in the u.s. and why but right now trust in american media appears to be at a historic low. recent polling shows only 34% of americans trust the news. 7% of those say they have a great deal of confidence in the .
11:08 am
27% said they trust the news of fairmount. 28% said they do not have much confidence in newspapers, tv and rita. 38% have no confidence at all. that poll was released last year. it is from october last year. and it comes to taking a look at average americans and overall opinions, it also broke down bipartisan lenses. this was back in october last year. when it comes to what they think about the media being trustworthy, only 14% of republicans say they had a great deal of trust and confidence. if you go to independent viewers, pony 7% gave their opinion saying they have that level of trust. democrats who were polled, they had a fair amount of trust and confidence in mass media.
11:09 am
that polish from october last year. we will show you more polling and what it says about levels of trust. we will show you portions of an event that took place in washington d c. you can let us know while we are doing that. democrats (202) 748-8000. republicans (202) 748-8001. independents (202) 748-8002. journals discussed accountability issues. one of them responds to a question about the biggest challenge and it comes to rebuilding trust in the media. here is a portion of that from last week. >> one of the things we've lost is this perceived technological advantage. 20 years ago, if we had a cause, we could stand in the corner outside of metro station and handout mimeographed sheets. the want in a post would come
11:10 am
out and people would say this is serious news. those minute on the corner are not very serious. anybody can produce professional-looking content, print, video, audio. we have lost that edge. people don't take us more seriously than the people out there with a political point. we have the technological edge over them. the upside i hope is we got into this business because i do believe the truth is important and the truth will win out. it is simply a matter of keeping these values that we have, mating -- maintain them. we don't have the technological edge we had before. we will own up to our mistakes, which gets us back to the theme.
11:11 am
11:12 am
those are some your thoughts on the level of trust when it comes to media. we go to the phones. we thank you for taking my call. i trust the news media, but you have to be really careful what news you listen to. just like with fox news where rupert murdoch and the late roger ailes when they used to give out --
11:13 am
11:14 am
anybody on social media can put out news. the majority you have to do your own research and make sure the news is true or not. host: let's hear from jeannie in louisiana. caller: thank you for taking my call. the last collar you had talking about the media, he is right to an extent. i started watching c-span because you have a lot of live shows. you have the hearings and everything else. can you hear me? i started watching your channel because you have the live senate and every thing. i can see myself what's going on. when you turn to the news, they
11:15 am
will spin it. i don't hardly watch it. i watched the live things. when they were electing the speaker, i watched everything. i watch them lie during the hearing and nobody called them on it. that's why i don't hardly watch them anymore. host: finish your thought. caller: that was it. you have a good day. host: your level of trust in news media, let's go to west virginia. caller: hello. the last two collars, they said they watched msnbc. the lady there just said msnbc and cnn spin the news.
11:16 am
if you are republican, you are watching fox. a democrat is watching msnbc. that's not true. i'm a democrat. i watch the local, i watch c-span, i watch a lot of news. to me, i see why we are parted as a nation. you are in a different universe. fox gives you what they believe and a lot of that is misinformation. in court right now, rupert murdoch, sean hannity, those people are lying because they had to talk about dominion. they know they lied to the viewers. they didn't care. that is who is giving you misinformation.
11:17 am
host: when you watch msnbc, do you believe everything on it is true? caller: no. i wouldn't say everything. if you watch a lot of msnbc, yes, they will try to tell you mostly the truth. if you see the news from other channels like abc, nbc, they are giving you the same facts. when you turn to fox, you are getting new information. why is that? host: andrew is in virginia on the independent line. caller: good morning. i have to thank c-span. c-span is one of the few places where you get all sides of the story and you will give us resources and books that we can
11:18 am
go in and search and find information and we can do some more. my trust in the media is low. i trust independent sources. that way, you can get the real story. you get investigative journalism. i want to know what's the story, the true story, a lot of times, the media presents certain things and it doesn't give us the whole picture. i want to know why. sometimes, any reason, i go to smaller independent sources online. i find the true story, the
11:19 am
reason behind what's going on. host: is there an example you would give of and dependent source? is there an example in recent days? caller: i go to -- i use your resources. guests you had it i will go on certain social media sites or online and i will look up the people to find out. the russia ukraine war is a big one. what's going on with this. that's what i will do. that's where you find investigative journalism. someone who really digs into the story and finds out what's really happening and gives you what's going on.
11:20 am
host: when you're watching those sources, why do you trust them? caller: because it really seems like they filling in the gaps. some people call it elite media, some call it the widespread media. they don't give you both sides of the story. there are gaps. to me, if i have to ask why, they have not answered it. that's why i have to do my digging. that's why i trust these independent sources. that's how i get a complete story. host: this viewer is in colorado. it's an in the panel he operated
11:21 am
print newspaper in colorado. kevin from facebook said, it's best when it's produced locally. there are a sample of opinions when it comes to media. you can add yours to the mix. (202) 748-8003 two textus. -- text us. you can text us with your thoughts. in oregon, this is from carl. hello. caller: thanks for producing your show. i agree with the last caller, this is a good source of up-to-date. you are very close to the source. i don't really have insight. i just know it's pick and
11:22 am
choose. from the media. at first, i used to go to cnn. then i go to fox and then i just ballpark down the middle. it was always like that. there was a news from the left in the news from the right. you just try to figure it out. i make up my own mind. it's kind of scary. host: how much of your news consumption comes from a newspaper or television versus the phone? caller: there is not much off the news print. they charge you, like the new york times. huffington post doesn't. it's tough. it's tough to get good news.
11:23 am
the good news will charge you. i don't know if i am your question. you usually have to pay to get good news. that's about all i have to say about that. host: axios has a story looking at newspapers. two newspapers in the u.s. are closing every week. local news crisis spurred by the pandemic will worsen in coming years.
11:24 am
you can put that into the mix when you talk about levels of trust in the media. many people mentioned television networks. this is fill in independence. caller: good morning. i love your show today. i think the death of good news happened -- no towns have two newspapers anymore. we used to have the hartford current and the hartford times. they balanced each other's opinions and stories. you got a really good view of
11:25 am
the news. as far as tv, i lost all credibility when dan rather made up the story of george bush. it turned me off toward regular media. host: that goes back a while. caller: your first week on c-span, where both gray. host: that story you talked about, it is still a matter of distressed? caller: very much so. you don't have to make up the news. host: i am familiar with the hartford current. the other newspaper close?
11:26 am
caller: the new york times closed the door. it was money. they were running out -- they were hemorrhaging cash. they were a great newspaper. the hartford times was a great newspaper. host: in south carolina, this is jason. caller: good morning. i've got no faith at all in the mainstream media, that includes fox. fox has been taken over by rupert murdoch who is a trump aide her. you can see it everywhere. what i get a kick out of are these people telling you they don't trust msnbc and you not telling them that you are funded by msnbc and your staff is comprised of msnbc employees.
11:27 am
host: that's not true. jason, that's not true. caller: it's my call. host: you made an accusation. that is absolutely not true. where -- we do not have their ploys. go ahead. caller: msnbc is owned by comcast. host: we are funded by local cable, people who watch this program contribute to fund the program. caller: you are filibustering me. you just cut me off. host: you made an accusation and i corrected it. caller: your news media is scumbags. host: are you all done? caller: you are a scumbag.
11:28 am
host: let's go to chuck in west virginia. caller: good morning. that last caller was a real piece of work. i graduated from west virginia university in 1981 with a degree in broadcast journalism. three things were hammered into us and journalism school, accuracy, which is self-explanatory. attribution, you had to name all your sources and they had to be trusted sources. accountability meant you were accountable for what you reported. there weren't many different news sources. public television, may be cnn if it existed at the time was very new. things are different now.
11:29 am
there was no internet. there was no social media. things are a lot different now. especially on a lot of social media platforms. when people put stuff out there, which is often times misinformation, it is too late to hold anybody accountable for it. when people talk about whether they trust the news media as if it were this big monolithic thing, in the internet age, people can construct their own echo chamber. you have people who are going to go to news mac -- newsmax, townhall, they will watch one america news. host: the previous caller said he didn't watch fox news. go ahead. caller: when you have something
11:30 am
like open forum, this guy seems to think that he can call in whatever lies he wants to call in about you getting your funding from msnbc. c-span -- i watch religiously every morning. i watch washington journal. you are completely unbiased. you let everybody speak their piece. having an open forum doesn't mean people can call in lies. if anything, the one thing i don't like about cnn or msnbc or fox, they tend to sensationalize everything. partly because they want ratings. sensationalizing the news is not a good way to go about reporting it. host: that is chuck in west virginia.
11:31 am
you can still see that form on her website. the journalists talked about the way they develop news or stories and the sources they use, particularly if they come with an angle or an agenda. here is some of that discussion. >> that his incumbent upon journalists. that's what we exist to do. that's a difference between using twitter or facebook or tiktok or instagram as your new source and using a legitimate branded journalism organization that has a masthead that you trust and you vetted. our job is to provide that context. i felt like we could've done better in providing that
11:32 am
context. it is tough. two things can be true at the same time. somebody can have an angle and they can be entirely factually correct. our focus is to give light so that people find their own way. adding that transparency, providing that context doesn't dilute the story. it actually provides a greater level of assurance to the audience that we are sharing with you everything we know about the source so you can decide if the person's predisposition perhaps weakens the argument. to do anything other than that
11:33 am
is to continue to reinforce the problem people have with the media. we get to decide what you know. when we don't hold ourselves to the same level of accountability , that is where we have failed in the past and we need to evolve. host: your level of trust in the news media. you can send us a text at (202) 748-8003. you can post on our social media sites. joe allen is in new jersey. caller: i want to believe the media conference. the truth for me is we are so colored by our opinions. one of your collars indicated in terms of calling you names.
11:34 am
i am disturbed by the fact that so often when we hear the news, it does have the opinion of the commentator, whether it be on fox or msnbc, which is what i watch. i can't watch joy read. too much of what she says is colored by the idea that she wants all of us to take it. we want to believe. one of the reason i listen to c-span's i long for the time when the news was presented without all of this commentary and emotion. not just -- not just the fear mongering as well as the color. that's why i listen to c-span. not only do i appreciate the commentators don't weigh in, so
11:35 am
many times people call in and they confront my own prejudice. somebody will call from south carolina with an incredible southern drawl and i will assume they are going to be racist and then they say the most informed things. i do try to vary my new sources. i cannot watch fox. i listen to npr. i love their show to get an idea of other people. i do read conservative commentary. i am a creature of watching news i feel is more progressive. host: let's hear from mark in california. caller: hello. good morning. as far as the media it, i am a fox news viewer because they are
11:36 am
fair and balanced from the start. they report, you decide. they bring people on. it's pretty clear and evident to me that the ratings as far as news goes, fox's always boasting. people believe it. they know it is fair and balanced. sean hannity as someone on, he talks too much sometimes. he doesn't let people talk. he lets other opinions out there. they don't blur the lines. they let you know. it's an op-ed show. it's opinion. the news people are separate.
11:37 am
host: the shows later at night? if that's more what's going on in the day? caller: sure. the news people are pretty obvious. these people are the news people. they're not really giving their opinion. laura ingraham says it right there. when you look at fox news, they are the number one rated show and they reported it for years. o'reilly was the number one rated show. i don't hear people screaming
11:38 am
liar. it's the truth. they have become the number one rated news network and all of america. that's because they are fair and balanced and they do tell the truth. the other networks are financed by china. that's obvious. chinese money is floating all through the fake news media. host: when you say it's obvious, how so? caller: their slants on everything. not one of them will say a one word about the chinese leader. you hear these celebrities that are invested in china. they come on apologize.
11:39 am
this is the way it is. host: that is mark in california. kevin in michigan. caller: hopefully, washington journal is ready for a little criticism. when you have guests on it, try not to take up half of the guest time by talking to the guest. you say you are unbiased. if you look in your archives from last year, there was a show with the bipartisan policy center. out of a 40 minute show, there was not one republican call. if you're not going to call a republican and 42 minutes, there is bias there. they were going to ask about immigration. you guys never did call on a
11:40 am
republican. you are on the biased side. host: if that's the case, i'm just going to say are you suggesting we duck republican calls? why do you make that assumption? caller: you didn't take any. you took a call from illinois, from massachusetts, las vegas. all of them were democrats with one independent. to think there was no republicans calling in is unbelievable. host: i will just answer. we don't duck republican calls. we wouldn't duck them from a segment. finish your thought. caller: find out if anyone called. you have every archive. you can find out for yourselves.
11:41 am
i watch newsmax. i watch one guy on newsmax. like i said, as far as news, i am independent leaning republican. i think fox has been compromised. what i'm really upset about is what they are doing to newsmax. they are taking it off. they are trying to take away conservative news. host: kevin in michigan. let's hear from kelly in north carolina. caller: how are you doing? i would like to say i don't watch any cable news at all. i don't watch any of the major networks like abc, cbs, any of that.
11:42 am
it's all controlled. i found out watching c-span when you have the house and senate, i try to find things like that that are live, we can hear the people speaking. i find the documents. i read what it actually says. you are going to get a spin no matter where you go. i like to use the people who are out live streaming, who are actually out, even if they are just there with their phone. you are watching what is happening. then you compare it, it's a totally different thing. they are not telling you the thing. these people who are risking their lives like friday night. i watched antifa breaking
11:43 am
windows and doing all kinds of things. you can see what is happening. there are plenty of live streamers. it's a wonderful thing. please make sure you look up documents and read them. go to the government websites and read those documents. what you are being told is not the truth. it's very important that you get the truth. what's happening is the opposite of what we are being told. host: that was kelly in south carolina. one of the stories coming from the tyre nichols case is how they were going to handle airing the video you may have seen over
11:44 am
11:45 am
i love c-span. i watch it every day. my favorite cable news, i can't live without msnbc. every now and then i turn on cnn. i never watch fox news. i never watch newsmax. the demographic is the largest sum of the population. i do enjoy msnbc. i think they've got the greatest rod casters. i believe the thing they say. i like to watch 360, the black news station to get a voice for
11:46 am
my people, the way we see stuff. host: when you say that, what are you looking for when you watch 360? caller: the mainstream news like the big three or four i just told you, i think they give the perspective of white america. when i turn on 360, i can see the feelings i can't hear the other stations. instead of the overwhelming majority of people in america. host: that was david in flint, michigan, given us his opinion on news and your level of trust.
11:47 am
in florida, we will hear next from paul. caller: thank you for taking my call. i wanted to commend you. you are one of the best. i just wanted to commend you. all the news media, it has been proven nothing happened. $40 million covering trump. i watch newsmax. i don't watch fox anymore. they had all the things true. they said there was no connection to prompt. this news media hid the story. i urge all republicans to drop
11:48 am
at&t. i'm very sorry about it. host: you said this, fox news was leaning left. what do you mean like that? caller: it's not the way it used to be. i used to watch fox regularly. now, they are not -- they are anti-trump. newsmax is one of the best. i watch newsmax on my cell phone. i used to watch all of these shows. i will never be a democrat. they are turning into economist party. america is changing. host: we've got less than 20 minutes. if you want to give a short level of trust, (202) 748-8000.
11:49 am
republicans (202) 748-8001. independents (202) 748-8002. the freedom forum, one of the things that they do on their website is offer a snapshot across the united states and the new stories they are talking about. to give you a sampling, out of new jersey, a look at egg prices. egg prices are skyrocketing. that is a story they have. if you go to the modesto bee, they look at the fentanyl crisis. the chattanooga times free press follows a story on overdoses, looking at overdoses that spiked.
11:50 am
that is the chattanooga times of tennessee. if you go to the gazette in colorado, they took a look at a water packed. when it comes to water. i'm sorry, i lost that. the times news in indiana, america's dirty secret. thousands of misdemeanor defendants don't get attorneys. that is a sampling across the united states. your level of trust in news media. dan is in kentucky. go ahead. caller: i really believe if we went back to just eight hours of news reporting, that would be best.
11:51 am
when you have it 24/7, it's the same old talking points. i used to listen to fox. i think news backs has been doing a good job. the democrats will be watching msnbc. they spin it the way people want to hear it. they were on point on all three of those. it's all about ratings. i used to watch fox. it has changed. i did like shannon green.
11:52 am
sean hannity repeat stuff over and over. he doesn't let people talk. he just keeps repeating stuff over and over. i don't miss him. i miss bill o'reilly. newsmax is really good. i've got a friend at church that said he had directv and they took newsmax off. he is going to figure some way of getting newsmax. i told him by a fire stick. cable is getting out of hand. host: how are you monitoring this program? caller: i've got alexa. i get my fox through it too.
11:53 am
i can listen to the five and jesse waters. i even get one american news on there. i am trying to get alexa. it freaked him out. host: let's hear from scott in maryland. caller: everybody complains about cable news networks. the majority of the content is editorial. they should put that on the shows. i don't see -- the daily show is only good source for that. people praise their local news, most forget that sinclair owns a lot of them and they push conservative editorials. a lot of new stories feel like
11:54 am
commercials. the main difference is liberals are pro-employee. all of these new stories or pushing a narrative that appeals to one of these. when the sources are dishonest, they are wrong. they feel like this takes care of that. everybody complains about fake news. we are being pummeled by deepfakes on the unit. host: do you treat the daily show as an entertainment program? caller: all of the above. host: how do you make sure that what they are talking about is straightforward? caller: if something is interesting or i feel like there is more to the story, i do the
11:55 am
due diligence and look into it. i talked to people about it. maybe they will know. my mom watches fox. we will have a discussion. the same thing i said about the daily show, i find humor and entertainment on cable news networks and c-span. host: we are not without a sense of humor. we have 10 minutes left in the program if you want to give your comments. a little bit more from that forum for the news literacy week. journalist talking about trump. one asked about the transparency process when bringing people into the news. here is a bit of that discussion. >> we are very proud of the rigor of our process.
11:56 am
we also know that we have to work harder to make it visible to our readers and not assume people understand. we had a reporter who knocked on someone's door to try to get comment. they were accused of invading privacy. we think that is fundamental to the process. it can very easily be misunderstood. our video team did a series. some of the most popular story forms we do, we take source material and documents. this is something they really enjoy. we had a lot of success with our
11:57 am
work in visual forensics. we have broader conversations. whether it's using annotations and stories, explain the process as people are going through, creating a blur. some people don't know what a dateline is. we could do more to take the building blocks of the work and do more to explain them. we have a couple of editors that are going through the process.
11:58 am
they make sure they are as clear as possible. host: if you are injured in hearing news consumption, a poll. u.s. adults under 30 trust information from social media almost as much as from national news outlets. there are a couple of different graphs showing what they think about the reliability, what they put on social media. james in missouri, the democrats line. caller: as far as my level of trust, i check out my local news as well as cnn and msnbc and fox
11:59 am
and other news networks i check out. fox news has a tendency to dwell on what's going on on the republican side with donald trump and caters to them. msnbc and cnn, they are a more democratic station to me. i watch local news. i just like to get a difference of opinion. host: do you mean your local tv newscast in missouri? caller: correct. abc, nbc.
12:00 pm
they have the same thing your cable networks have on. it's a different outlook. you can get your own opinion instead of listening to one person and that side. some people >> would leave this program to keep our 40 year commitment to live coverage of congress. the u.s. house about to gavel in. you are watching live coverage on c-span. the speaker the speaker: the house will be in order. prur seunt to the house of january 9, 2023, the chair will now recognize members from lists the submitted by the
48 Views
IN COLLECTIONS
CSPAN Television Archive Television Archive News Search ServiceUploaded by TV Archive on