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>> their video that came out yesterday from ambassador haley and her intentions to run at the white house. their headline -- if you go to the pages of the greenville news out of greenville, the headline -- several more gop hopefuls could join nikki haley in the 2024 race. nikki haley announces run for president, challenging trump. that is how their state newspapers are playing out. that announcement from nikki hay yesterday. her formal announcement is today south carolina. you can see ative at 11:00 this morning. you can watch a up of different ways.

on our main channel on c-span, on our app c-span now, or c-span.org. you can also monitor that online. we want to hear from you about, perhaps you are a fan of nikki haley or other republicans that could be the head of the party in 2024. in the mountain and pacific time zones, (202) 748-8001. nikki haley putting out and tweeting out a video yesterday announcing her intentions for the white house. here is part of that video from yesterday. >> the railroad track divided the town by race. i was the proud daughter of indian immigrants. not black, not white. i was different. my mom told me not to think about the differences but the similarities stop -- but the

similarities. my mother reminded me and my siblings every day how blessed we were to live in america. some look at our past as evidence that america's founding principles are bad. they say the promise of freedom is just made up. some think our ideas are not just wrong, but racist and evil. nothing could be further from the truth. i have seen people --evil. in china, they commit genocide. in iran, they murder their own people for challenging the government. and when a woman tells you about watching soldiers throw her baby into a fire, it puts things into perspective. even on our worst day, we are blessed to live in america. i was born and raised in south carolina, so i have seen the very best of our country. people here throughout the old, -- through out --threw out the

old, tired political establishment and demanded accountability for their tax dollars. industry reports call us the beast of the southeast, which i love. people came by the thousands for a fresh start. moms and dads held their heads up high. children learned that it's --it was always a great day in south carolina. >> it is a great day -- >> a great day -- >> a great day in south carolina. we were strong, we were proud. [laughter] -- [applause] >> and when people --evil did come -- >> police in south carolina are looking for a shooter. >> we turned away from fear toward god and the values that still make our country the freest and greatest in the world. host: that's just a portion of the video that was tweeted out yesterday, announcing the ambassadors intentions to run for the white house. that formal announcement later

on at 11:00. you can watch online and on the app. in the "washington times" this morning, it takes a look at the republicans who could run in the race for 2024, highlighting former president donald trump as one of those pictures. florida governor ron desantis, and nikki haley below that. even below that, other republicans that could be considered for the race as well, including maryland's former republican governor, larry hogan, former vice president mike pence, former secretary of state mike pompeo, tim scott -- senator tim scott from south carolina, and glenn youngkin. the current virginia governor. who would you like to see lead the party. you can call in or text us, if you wish. this is michelle. you are first up. caller: i would vote for haley.

hello? host: you are on. caller: i would vote for haley because i think she would do a much better job. we have had a lot of shootings in the last several years if she -- years and if she is able to be a strong leader and put forth positive gun-control measures, i think she would be the one i would vote for. all of the rest of the men that are lined up on that article article -- that article that you have, have been in the programs of the republican party and we are still killing kids off, and our future generations are going to be gone. no young kid, a young child, is going to be able to take care of us.

i don't care what the debt is. i don't care what party you are from. but something, some action must be done. host: ok, that is michelle in florida. in new york, in syracuse, ray, hello. caller: good morning, pedro. thank you for this question. no reservations whatsoever on my part. donald trump, number one by far, best president ever. out of the field, the only one actually tested in office and the best president ever. i don't see anyone touching him just like when we had 17 starters and they disappeared so fast. host: would you want a second term of donald trump, as far as the way he did things, his approach to be the same, or should he change things up if he

would run for a second time? caller: absolutely no changes whatsoever. he has done it once. if he thinks there is a change necessary, he knows what to do, and why, what to change. after all, he did it for four years. he did it better than anybody in our history. i would trust him and the people he brings in. i would never put myself over him. i really don't see anything he should change. the best thing he did was he drove the democrats crazy. host: ok. the "wall street journal" taking a look at nikki haley's bid for the presidency also includes a statement from president trump -- former president trump when it comes to her candidacy. this is a reported statement shared by his campaign. mr. trump said, quote, "even though nikki haley said i would never run against my president, the best president in my lifetime, i told her she should

follow her heart and do what she wants to do. i wish her luck." let's go to jason in wake forest, north carolina. good morning, you are next up. caller: good morning. donald trump today, donald trump tomorrow, donald trump forever. i wouldn't care if they may --made donald trump king of this country because at least i would know my family is safe. this country would have a little morality and dignity. we would not be like these democrats. if we could get rid of them, that will be the best thing to ever happen to this country. host: exactly what would you like a second term of donald trump to look like specifically? caller: i would like him to outlaw the democratic party. i would like him to arrest our media that committed treason against him. but can i tell you why i would never vote for nikki haley? i think you people in the media might want to worry about that a little bit. donald trump one half -- he

won't care if you want to impeach him again. you all are talking about russia. host: your criticism of nikki haley, what is that? caller: what is that? for one, she took down the confederate flag. she has zero chance of winning in the south. she came out two months ago that she would never even consider running against donald trump. now look at her. donald trump supporters don't like turncoats. host: ok, that's jason in north carolina. the wall street journal in its editorial, taking a look at nikki haley and her career. saying that haley's finest moment came from when she removed the confederate flag from the grounds of the capitol statehouse. this is after the murder of black americans by a white nine supremacist in charleston.

the removal of the flag was not the result of her effort when her opponent in the gubernatorial race proposed moving the flag a year earlier, she dismissed the idea. more concerning, her represent -- her reputation of speaking without knowledge. as the u.n. ambassador, nikki haley performed well enough. she also resigned after less than two years. those in government have been critical. her biggest challenge is identifying rationale for canada -- for her candidacy beyond a winning persona. republicans only in this hour. (202) 748-8000 for the eastern and central time zones, (202) 748-8001 for the mountain and pacific time zones. this is from ken. ken is in oregon. in astoria. good morning. caller: good morning, c-span.

yes, i voted for trump twice. but, you know what, i think his time has passed. and i like nikki haley. i have always liked her. been following her for years. i think that right now, as it , stands, she has more experience they donald trump had when he became president. i think it's maybe time to break that glass ceiling. i fully support nikki haley. host: when you say former president trump's time has passed, ken, what do you mean by that specifically? caller: i think it's time for a new face in there. i really do like donald trump, but he has got problems. i don't know if he could overcome that.

i don't know if he could beat a democrat in the next election, speaking of biden. i think nikki haley has a really good shot at it. i think democrats would vote for her. that is just how i feel. host: ok. that is can in -- can --ke in californian -- or gone --ken in california. republicans only, taking a look at who you want to see at the top of the ballot. the governor's announcement came in the form of a twitter video put out yesterday. we showed you a part of it. here is another part, particularly where nikki haley talks about perspectives when it comes to the democratic party. [video clip] >> republicans have lost the popular vote in seven out of the last eight presidential elections. that has to change. joe biden's record is abysmal, but that shouldn't come as a surprise. the washington establishment has

failed us over and over and over again. it's time for a new generation of leadership, to rediscover fiscal responsibility, secure our border, and strengthen our country, pride, and process. --our president. ♪ some people look at america and see vulnerability. the socialist left sees an opportunity to rewrite history. china and russia are on the march. they all think we can be bullied. kicked around. you should know this about me, i don't put up with bullies. and when you kick back, it hurts them more if you are wearing heels. i am nikki haley and i am running for president. ♪ host: that video put out yesterday. again, her formal announcement at 11:00 today.

this will be from south carolina. you can watch on c-span, our c-span now app and if you want, you can watch on our website at c-span.org. those republicans out in the audience, thinking about who should lead the party in 2024, brian in owings mayor -- maryland most of hello. caller: good morning, c-span. i just put a plug-in for governor hogan. he actively avoids getting tangled up in social issues, he's a businessman, and he gets work done and he does it quietly. thanks. host: before you go, what do you think is his key as being governor of maryland and working in a primarily democratic state? caller: i don't know. that's a good mystery. if somebody else knows, i would like to hear more about it. but he got the job done. that's all i know. host: what do you think are his accomplishments, at least his key accomplishments? caller: the state has a balanced budget and he is focused on infrastructure. he stays out of the social issues.

that is what i liked about them. host: that's maryland's former governor, larry hogan, who is now one of those people who are reported considering taking a run at the white house in 2024. tom is in sussex, new jersey. good morning, you are next. tom, you are on. go ahead. ok, let's go to tim in pennsylvania. viewers, before we go on, remember that while you're waiting, go ahead and turn down or mute your television set, so that when it is your time to talk, you can jump right in. tim in pennsylvania, hi. caller: good morning. i am a trumpster. trump all the way. i like his policies, both internationally and domestically. i think his policies are right for america. i think america is going to be

in such a miserable state at the end of biden's term that it is going to take a tough old bird to straighten it out. as far as all the political flack and all the noise that trump manages to kick up, that's not going to go away, no matter who it is, with the democrats. what they throw at the republicans is like the little cart that you put on the back of your car to run errands with. no matter who the nominee is, they are just going to point those guns at the nominee and you are going to have to have somebody that is going to be able to withstand that withering fire to get what's right for america, rather than buckle at the knees and have them pushed around. -- push you around and i don't see anybody, including desantis, i don't see anybody on the republican stage other than trump that is going to be able to hold up under that and get their policies right for

america, push those through. host: all right, tim in pennsylvania. next up, we will hear from oscar in atlanta, georgia. hello. caller: good morning. let's all remember who president trump is and what he did for america. this guy was a genius. he was a businesses -- a businessman. he has his faults, but at the same time, he was a very good president. he did so much for this country, he did so much for the american people, for the black people, for hispanics. he did so much for christians. this guy was one of the best presidents. i think that all of us who knew him and respected him, when he did all that for us, we need to do something for him and give him another four years. he deserves it. i believe he will make america great again. host: so these others that have been listed as potential for running for the office, out of that list, no one piques your

interest besides president trump? caller: i'm sure some of them that will run will have good qualities. but if you really think about it, president trump did such a great job for this country. i know that some people don't believe that the election was stolen. but i saw the movie "2000 meals" and it was right in front of you. if you can't watch that movie and walk out and say that everything was fair. then you are not being honest to yourself and i encourage people to watch the movie. it will tell you that this election was not run properly. that's all i'm saying. i think there are other candidates that are decent people, that probably will follow in donald trump's footsteps and probably copy a lot of his policy, because we all know that donald trump had the backbone and he represented america like no other president. outside of ronald reagan, i would say donald trump is probably one of the best presidents in our modern

history, that did so much for so many people all around the world, not just here in america. he did so much for everybody. host: ok, that is oscar in georgia. for their part, the make america great again inc., the pac associated with donald trump put out a statement regarding nikki haley yesterday. they were saying nikki haley is just another career politician. she was never trumper and decided to serve in thtrump administration, then resigned early to go make money on corporate boards. she looks like more of the same, a career politician whose only commitment is to herself. that is from the pac associated with donald trump. this is from mount gilead, ohio. david is next up. caller: yeah, hi. host: you are on, sir. go ahead. caller: ok. i would vote for pence.

and i would vote for trump again if i had to. i would like to see rubio in there as vice president. host: why mike pence? caller: he was the backbone behind trump. people would really, really like pence if he ever got in there. i can guarantee that. and rubio would be the best vice president. host: why is that? caller: his morals, respect, and everything. he is just a great person. believe me, american people, those two people would be the best. host: that's david in ohio. he brings up mike pence. mike pence also in the news for a strategy regarding that inquiry from the justice department for january 6. this is from "the hill," reporting that former vice president pence is planning to fight the subpoena and the drawn

-- and setting up a drawn out legal fight of the justice department ramps up its probe. his resistance to the subpoena, with this consistent with his previous reluctance to testify. it could -- more immediately, it could throw a wrench in the special counsel's efforts to investigate trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. he is planning to roll out a novel legal argument, once that hinges as his role on january 6. as the presiding officer of the senate, his team is expected argued that under his former position as president, his work technically falls under the legislative branch. he is therefore protected under a clause. more of that if you want to read that. if you want to talk about mike pence as a candidate, you can do so in this first hour, this first 40 minutes or so of the program. (202) 748-8000 for the eastern and central time zones, (202)

748-8001 for the mountain and pacific time zones. republicans only in this hour. walter is next in silver spring, maryland. hello. caller: thanks to c-span. just to reiterate what the previous caller called about, trump being there. i am indian-asian. i am really proud nikki haley put her hat into the ring. but i don't think she can do it. the only reason she did is because she can ride on the coattails of trump. i just wanted to say that. thank you for c-span. host: what led you to that conclusion? caller: she cannot raise enough money and she does not have enough votes in the country to be able to do it. her efforts in south carolina were great, but she doesn't have the fortitude or strength to do anything as far as foreign policy or domestic policy. even if people know where -- her and has name recognition on the east coast, she doesn't have

over -- countrywide name. i think that is the reason why she did it was to keep her name in the ring. i am indian-asian and i am a supporter of trump. host: ok, walter in maryland. this is lee in georgia. you are next, hi. caller: hi, this is lee nicholson. i just wanted to let you know that i think some of the earlier callers that were extreme relative to trump do not represent the middle of the republican party and they certainly don't represent the swing voters. we cannot win this thing if we don't get the swing voters. all those people who are diehard on the trump side need to give it up a little bit for the sake of the country and pick somebody who can actually win this thing. mentors win -- not just win the republican nomination, but the election. i voted for trump twice. but he has alienated so many people that he is not going to win the people who push him over the middle. that's all i'm going to say about that. host: lee, if i may ask, those

moderate and swing voters, do you think there is a candidate out there like yourself that could draw some appeal when it comes to 2024? caller: i think a lot of these people. i think desantis, pompeo, haley, pence. there is a nice slate of people that won't all be each other up too badly out there, they could possibly bring some of the middle over. they don't have to do much, they just can't make fun of every other person, call everyone who runs against them an enemy, and have a bunch of baggage they have to carry around. they don't have to do much. that is all i have to say. host: being that swing voter, is it about the tone of the candidate or the policy? for you specifically, what policy would you like to see the next candidate advocate for? caller: personally, and i will step in it a little bit here, i think that the republican

stance on the abortion, it is to o extreme to get the swing voters. they just need to tailor that a little bit. i also think that republican stance on background checks on the guns is a little too extreme. they need to put a little weight into it. maybe not a red flag law, but a yellow flag law. i think we would probably be in pretty good shape if we just took those two things and brought that middle over to us. because i think fiscal policy, defense, those kinds of things. republicans have a much, much stronger method. -- message. host: lee there in georgia, giving us a call. talking about 2024, who would you like to see in the party? tell us why. jerry in kansas. hello. caller: yes, "washington journal" and c-span, we appreciate so much having the freedom of speech and getting our questions answered.

now, i would say that, concerning mike pence, our section of the country would not ever vote for michael pence because the media, not c-span, but c-span and mike pence said he was not going to be certified because he would call the election. that's not what it was about. it was about the country, the government being able to investigate the fraud that occurred in 2016. that has been proven true, because the hunter laptop information has proven the fbi, the departments of government, had their thumb on the scale. host: for mike pence as a presidential candidate, this is something you would approve or not approve of? caller: he can run my section of

kansas would never vote for him. because had he decertified, that what that have put biden in power, it would have allowed us to investigate the election. and it has been proven -- host: sure, sure. you made that point. but if it is not mike pence, who -- though section -- the sections of kanas who -- kansas would not support, who is it going to be? caller: it would be for donald trump, because look at the position he put our country in. he made us strong. the last caller called in and sound like he was driving a vehicle. does he appreciate buying the expensive gasoline? when donald trump was in power, we could buy gas for $1.14 in northeast kansas. the deserters of trump and the anti-trumpers, they talk about biden running in 2024. he has dementia. i have seen this in my family. he will never finish out his

term because of his medical problems. host: ok. that's go to tim, in lansing -- let's go to tim in lansing, tennessee. hi. caller: hi. one thing i can say is i was a trump supporter through and through for the first term, for sure. but as somebody that has lived in texas and somebody that has lived in an area that has had a lot of people crossing the border and immigrants and actually serving on the border in texas, i believe either the governor from florida, desantis, or greg abbott would probably be the best pick for the republican party. that is somebody who actually dealt with immigration. a lot of policies trump had, i did not like. i think they were great policies for the time. but i believe as he gets back in the white house now, the media and too many people are going to be coming after him and pull him -- and that will pull him off

the agenda that we actually need to be focusing on now. host: tim in lansing, tennessee, talking about -- breaking up -- bringing up florida governor ron desantis and who should lead the party in 2024. maybe that is the person for you and maybe somebody else that was mentioned. maybe it is nobody on the list that was mentioned. you can let us know in the next half-hour. (202) 748-8000 in the eastern -- or those of you -- for those of you in the eastern and central time zones. (202) 748-8001 in the mountain and specific time zones. text us if you wish at (202) 748-8003. if you want, you can post regardless of your party on our -- we are taking calls for republicans but regardless of your party on our social media sites. we have been telling you about nikki haley entering the presidential race. that formal announcement set to take place today. joining us on the phone to give a little more background on what to expect is caitlin byrd. she is with the -- carrier --

courier thank you for joining . us. guest: i hope you can hear me ok . we are all standing outside nikki haley's launch location, waiting to get in. it is definitely a day where a presidential candidate is going to be announcing in downtown charleston and the media has descended. host: on your twitter feed, your location is making -- nicknamed "the shed" or something along that line. can you give us an idea of what to expect on the actual announcement? caller: you are right -- guest: you are right. it is called "the shed." it doesn't sound glamorous, but it is actually quite beautiful. it is an open air venue. the flags and banners are already up. the south carolina flag, the american flag overhead, and the -- and nikki haley for president, that banner is quite prominent. you can see it from the street here. like i said, a lot of media are waiting to get in. i'm expecting a good number of

people. i am hesitant to put any sort of a body count on it yet, but i can tell you that the weather here today is beautiful. any concerns about rain keeping people away, that is something that the nikki haley team can breathe a sigh of relief about. in terms of what she has to say, i am curious if we are going to be hearing echoes from her campaign launch video, which she posted online yesterday, where she cheaply calls for a new -- cheaply --chiefly calls for a new generation of leadership. that seems to be a rear -- a real contrast point she seems to draw early as a candidate. i am curious if she will dip into the culture wars, especially on issues like education. that is also going to be probably a real big motivator for republican primary voters and republican voters in general. i am sure we will hear it's a great day here in south carolina. that is a phrase nikki haley has made her own and made it a -- and she has deployed it quite

frequently as government and made it a required greeting on phone calls and state agencies. i am kind of serious, jokingly or not, wondering if she will say it is a great day in america. host: how is the announcement rogers thing -- registering amongst the residents of the state? guest: i'm not sure how may people are watching closely on twitter. twitter is never a great barometer for what voters think and feel. i can tell you that even in the days leading up to haley's announcement, i was at walmart of all places, and someone asked what i did. i said i was a reporter. the post and carrier --courier. the gentleman behind the register said he was excited about nikki haley because she's a true conservative. i wasn't even working. it was just a knee-jerk reaction from a sales associate when i was getting a gallon of milk. people are excited that nikki haley is a household name in

south carolina. it's a huge advantage for her to have such high name id in a n early voting state like this. it is no surprise that tomorrow, she's going to be in new hampshire. host: one of the people offering some support was senator lindsey graham. guest: yes. lindsay and nikki have a really affable relationship. they have worked together through the years, i think even back in 2015 when the confederate battle flag came down. nikki haley was meeting with federal and state officials. she was meeting with senator graham and they work well together. lindsey graham has already pledged his loyalty. he sat alongside former president trump he did his first south carolina event. i think they said -- he says

something to the event -- affects, don't quote me, but he said something like a lot of people are saying they want trump's policies, but blessed -- but the person who can do those policies is the man himself. he took a really hard stance mayor but he was gracious on twitter and talked fondly of nikki haley's time. even though he is going to be wearing a jersey for a different candidate, so to speak. host: you talked about nikki haley as far as the announcement and -- president trump. do you expect any reference, even alluding to the fact that at one time the candidate said she would never run against president trump, and now here she is running against him. do you expect any reasoning why within the speech itself? guest: i don't know if we will get a reason why, in terms of the walk back on saying she is -- wouldn't run if trump ran again. but the rest of that quote was

also best, not without talking to him first. we know that she did call trump before she made her announcement. she may have not made good on the first part of her promise but she went through with the latter part of her quote which does not get brought up as much. i think what she will do is probably, as the first one out of the gate after trump, the first to really start drawing contrast points within a republican primary, her job today is to pitch wide. -- pitch wide she is worth -- what vision can she bring? some people are going to have a strong idea of what trump is going to bring to the table. the pressure is now on nikki haley this morning, saying this -- morning, to say this is what i can uniquely offer, here is what i learned on the international stage at the united nations, and here's what i bring as someone who grew up , she says, as a brown girl in a black-and-white world in south

carolina. host: we heard her reference to the work on the confederate flag, but as far as her record in the state, what are positives that would probably, maybe assist her in this campaign and some drawbacks that could impact her campaign? guest: certainly, some of the positives you can hear she already highlighted in that campaign video. things like her work with development and attracting businesses here she has built in america. i'm thinking about major places, like bmw and boeing. she says in that campaign launch video about how under her leadership, south carolina was named the beast of the southeast. and at a time when economic policy and timing in general was -- and the economy in general was such a top of mind issue, every time they go and pay for gas or go to the grocery store, i am sure she is going to be leaning into that heavily. she does have a little bit of a business background experience.

she studied accounting at clemson university and worked as an accountant in her family's business. i think she will be leaning on that. she will also more broadly speak to her ability to make deals, work across the aisle, while at the same time always doubling -- double down when it matters with the conservative beliefs of hers so i am curious about this vision she is going to have to outline for today and how much of that is going to sound, in many ways, like an echo of the things she has been saying when she hit the stump for other candidates. in the last midterm cycle, she was all over the country. that is a great opportunity to test the message. they are going to see what all those speeches come together as in this first introduction. host: you can see our guest reporting on the candidacy, the announcement, and related stories when you go to "the post and courier" website. caitlin byrd joining us.

she is our senior politics reporter, talking about this. thank for your time. we will have you back when we -- south carolina comes into play. guest: thank you so much for the opportunity. have a great day. host: if you want to see that announcement today, it is expected at 11:00. you can see that on c-span, c-span now, or c-span.org. back to your calls calls on who you would like to see leave the -- c lead --see lead the party in 2024. tommy in rhode island, thanks for waiting. go ahead, you are on. caller: good morning, how are you doing? as far as the upcoming presidential election, i believe that the republican party, there has been a gentle shift when kevin mccarthy was voted in as

head of the house of representatives. i think that the shift began, and it was at that point that president biden saw that he had to sit down, he had to talk to kevin mccarthy, and he had to recognize that the republican party was not going to just sit there and be stepped upon. now, here we are going into 2024 with the presidential elections, with president trump running again to be president of the united states. i believe that between president trump and president biden, there really isn't any contest, as far as one person being older than the other person. i believe the contest is going to come down to the extreme background in business and economics that president trump

that president trump has had. what most people do not realize about what happened with donald trump is in the early 90's with ross perot seem to break the wheel in washington dc with politicians, and that is why we are seeing again today with a lot of these people we have been talking about, nikki haley, mike pence being the individuals who are looking to be president.

donald trump tapped into that break the wheel, we want somebody from the outside to run this country and he did it very well. his actions show that. i think that is overlooked. when that happened with donald trump, we had a lot of people who are in that wheel who freaked out because all of the sudden politics was changed. the american people spoke and said we are done with your games. i think the only person who can continue that is donald trump. there are people who follow him, not mike pence but may beat what's his name from florida. host: ron desantis? that is ron in iowa. some of you texting. this is and in new york saying

for her choices it would be asa hutchinson of arkansas, former governor of maryland larry hogan. these are middle-of-the-road guys and former governors. marcy in kansas saying senator lisa murkowski and senator mitt romney would be my dream team. i like those who put our country first and are not self absorbed. from candy in california saying i voted for trump in 2016 at that was enough. he needs to step aside. this time i would vote for nikki haley. nikki haley being a question asked of mitch mcconnell yesterday during a press conference and here is some of that exchange. [video clip] >> what i think we will have is a vigorous primary with a number

of candidates making their case and the american people, those who are republicans who will participate in these primaries will decide who they want to nominate. i think it will be very competitive in these primaries and we will hope for the best. i will support whoever the nominee ultimately is. host: who should be top of the ticket in 2024 in light of the announcement from nikki haley? you can talk about her or talk about others? republicans only in this first hour of our program. wilhelm in missouri. hello. caller: i am a republican and i want to see mike pence for the president and i want to see liz cheney for the vice president. they understand the election and they would not overturn the election. i will leave it at that.

you all have a wonderful day. host: let's go to lou in tampa, florida. caller: good morning, america. i like john thune of south dakota because he knows the inner workings of washington and i think he could work across party lines. he is articulate and i think it would be great for america. that is all i have to say. host: would you mind sharing why your governor is not on your radar? caller: i like desantis. i voted for him. i don't know. i just don't know. i would vote for desantis if he

was the nomination. i like john thune. i see him as a leader. he will stand up to china. i think desantis will, too, but i think somebody needs to stand up to china. john thune knows what is going on. host: that is lou in florida. john thune coming up on a list of considerations. in nevada, don, hello. caller: good morning. host: good morning. caller: it is either gp or td. even though the marxists are trying to destroy donald trump. i think pompeo or desantis would be excellent vice presidents.

they served our country with honor. i don't think people realize how important the vice president is for national security. trump is a doer. he has completed more things than anybody in the presidency has done in four years and i think he deserves another shot at it. like i say, they are trying to destroy him. he will withstand it and he will be our next president. host: sarah is next. sarah in north carolina. caller: good morning. i like trump, but the problem with putting trump back in there , we will be in trial every day

trying to impeach the man. that is not good for our country. that is the way i feel about trump. he was a good man while he was there. we do not need pants, we do not need biden, we need somebody that will stand up for us. trump was one of them. our country cannot afford to sit in the courtroom all day long on national tv with the fbi and all of that. i feel bad for the man. he does not need to run. you have a good day. host: who think that somebody is? caller: i think ron desantis or nikki haley. host: would you like to tell us why either of those stand out in your mind? caller: i think ron desantis would stand up to disney is a good man. and stand up for our children. nikki haley would be good for

vice president. he would be good for president. i like donald trump but his time is over because our country cannot sit in the courtroom all the time. our country does not need that. host: there is sarah in north carolina. when it comes to former president trump and current governor desantis, denise and nevada cites the dream team for her. from lee in winter haven, florida, saying nikki haley is wonderful. ron desantis is great but when it comes to former president trump ever again is what lee writes. this is timbo from arkansas who writes icy asa hutchinson, adding maybe we can get a handle on the fentanyl.

second choice would be ron desantis. speaking of asa hutchinson, he was asked last week about the potential to run for the office of president on an interview with cbs. here is a portion. >> recently --[video clip] >> you have been to new hampshire and south carolina. reading the tea leaves you might make addictions. last year is said definitively you expect to make a decision in the first part of next year as to whether or not you would run for president. now that we are officially in that window, i wondered you have anything to announce? >> certainly whenever you see nikki haley jumping in there, you see donald trump already in there, you know we will have to make some decisions. obviously the fact that i am in some of the early states, but also going to arizona, talking about ideas and solutions for our border crisis and

immigration issues we face. these are important times for me to get that consistent conservative message out there. that is what i'm doing first and foremost. last year i did believe a candidate would need to get in and make a decision in the first part of the year, january and february. i think because of the slowness and how this has developed -- >> what you mean about the slowness? >> trump got in but he was very quiet. it has been slow in developing and people know there will be options. the important thing for me is to be out there and talk about the border security issues but also the support for ukraine i think is important and sometimes wanes. the american people need to hear that message. we need to look for solutions

when it comes to crime in the streets and make sure we enforce our law. and that inflation is still hurting americans. we want to develop solutions and if that message carries out i can make the decision at the right time as to the role i will play in 2024 and continue to look at potential presidential campaigns. host: that is asa hutchinson from last week. when it comes to the democratic national committee, they put out a statement taking a look at nikki haley saying nikki haley served in donald trump's administration and has embraced most extreme elements of the maga agenda and cannot identify a policy difference between herself and trump. her governor sip -- or governorship in south carolina included signing an extreme abortion ban, tax cuts for that benefit the