resonate and you juxtapose against that what the house republican caucus is selling and the leader articulates this so well. the house republicans spent a year talking about how they are going to fight inflation but they spent fighting each other. and as the chairman of the rules committee and the leader articulating it is a two-beige book report on inflation. house democrats will work to ensure every single american in our country has the ability to pursue the american dream and that is what it is all about and we will talk about messaging conversations as a family over the next few days here in

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>> political newspaper. good morning. for those who haved c-span act -- who have not watch cpac, what is it? guest: it has changed over the past years. it is a gathering of conservatives figures, lawmakers, and even presidents. used to be a broader trend event. more so, it is a mixture of people coming into this conference that last few days and a location at florida four

years ago -- at florida a few years ago. this year is in washington dc at the national harbor. over the last couple of years has become a trump dominated event. it is cater more towards ultraconservative of the party. it has become a conference, a homage to the former president. host: today through saturday and c-span covering the cpac this year. you can check c-span.org before a scheduled. it is taking place a couple miles marie are in d.c. you mentioned donald trump speaking. when does he speak at the event? guest: it is on saturday and he

normally speaks on saturday. over the past years he has been the closer of this. he is the highlight of cpac and going into 2024 that is important because we know this is a meeting of conservative grassroots. you would see a lot of potential republican contenders for president gathering and trying to court those grassroots donors, voters influencers. easy nikki haley -- nikki haley will be speaking at the event. mike pompeo is considered to be relink a presidential announcement and he will be speaking. ron desantis one not to be there. mike pence, tim scott these other potential figures not in attendance. host: why not ron desantis? guest: it has to do with the fact that this is a trump dominated event.

ron desantis, although he is cut from the same cloth of trump, he is buying for the same group of voters -- vying for the same group of voters. he has to be careful of how he navigates these waters to appeal to the trump voters by the same time not poking the bear that is president trump. yes become president trump's main target and although he has not announced he's running for president yet. ron desantis is continuing his book tour and built his own national profile. host: -- guest: club for growth is a political action committee or group that is much aimed at bolstering conservative lawmakers, republican candidates. he will be hoarding those members of the club for growth

stating his case for them going into 2024. go see a number of candidates doing that as well. -- we will see a number of canada's doing that as well. florida has become the center of republican universe and it is great for ron desantis. he is a part of the reason why it is a part of the republican universe. and also because donald trump lives at this other end of florida. host: 20 minutes before the house comes in. we will take you there when they do. in that time we talk about cpac 2023 takes place in d.c. kicking off today and goes through saturday. phone calls if you want to join the conversation with julia manchester, political reporter with the hills newspaper. democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002.

we talk about the trump headline of it on saturday night. who are the thursday and friday night headliners? guest: nikki haley, mike pompeo are the big 2024 announce contenders. we also have kari lake from arizona. that's important because she has said to be near link or considering -- she has said to be considering a senate run in arizona next year. ed something to keep an eye out for. you have a number of house lawmakers on the gop and even foreign figures coming in, brazilian president bolsonaro, it has become, cpac, and international think to appeal to conservatives across the globe.

guest: match laughed as the chairman of cpac. normally he is successful to the media wanting to promote cpac talk about the speakers in the agenda. we do not know what that looks like because there has been sexual misconduct allegations levied against them. we know his wife would be out front tonight hosting a panel however we do not know what his presence will look like. if he is out front he is going to risk questions about this when there are legal issues at play and potentially distracting from the event itself. that is probably the biggest cloud hanging over cpac. host: what is the stylus -- what

is the status of the allegations? matt schlapp and his team are denying the allegations. guest: matt schlapp denying and pushing back and wish to developments pushing soon. host: cpac attendees and cdc may pick up -- in d.c. may pick up the washington post with this topic. faces concerns over culture and leadership as the headline at the newspaper. if you want to talk about cpac this year, julia manchester of "the hill 20 because taking your phone calls. martin is uppers out of louisville, kentucky. good morning. caller: good morning. i grew up in republican household in the 60's and 70's. the problem i got, the old

conservatives, what they said was the reason i am conservative because in social society you have two kinds of people. those that think for them and those who do not. it seems to me today republican party has two kind of people. the true conservative and everybody else. if anybody reject the something like attacking the capital, they get ostracized by the republican party. guest: that is a good point. a lot of people looking in on what the republican party has evolved into hundred trump would have similar observations. lots of this i comes to my mind is the 20 presidential election results. there has been splintering in the republican party. liz cheney is a conservative. she is small government,

pro-life, antiabortion. she is no moderate. brian kemp, the governor of georgia, same thing. what differentiates them from kari lake as they can see and vocal about president biden and 2020 and they went against trump. the issue is for trump and his supporters in the party like kari lake they do not view president biden as legitimate president and use that as a litmus test for determining who is conservative enough or republican enough when really the results of the 2020 election have nothing to do with -- should have nothing to do with how republican or conservative you are. being conservative is about free market principles, for small government. definition of conservative has

changed depending on who you talk to. host: what if the see specs awful? -- what is the cease back -- wha tis the cpac stroffel? guest: it is who should be the leader of the party. president trump has one in the past and he is expected to when it this year. it is taken from members of cpac. host: in the washington times today, a survey of 1060 registered voters. the question republican primary voters of who they picked for the gop nomination. donald trump by 55%. ron desantis 25%. mike pence 8%. nikki haley 5%.

it is one of the many surveys out there on this topic. another want release -- another want really saturday? guest: yes at the conclusion of the event. host: good morning. caller: thank you for having me. host: what is your question or comment? caller: thank you for all the americans who welcomed me. i'm trying hard to pay back what americans gave me. my question is related to that. i am very sad because i see division in our political environment. why do we have this division? i forget his name, he said, why

do we see good people divided? everybody is unique. why don't we have the good people from both aisles work together? guest: congratulations on your citizenship. that is exciting. however to your question, there has been so many books and articles written on this. there are classes at universities about colorization in the united states and i think it could be traced back to the different factors -- polarization in the united states and i think it could be traced back to different factors, when congressional dishes are drawn -- when congressional districts are drawn. we have seen a lot of congressional districts become more homogeneous meaning we have seen congressional districts become really blue or really read. we have seen that trickle up into congress especially the house of representatives.

see the house of representatives is more polarized than the senate even though the senate has a polarization issue. there are others who say trump has to do with a lot of it. i will argue trump is a system of polarization in this country. i do not think he is necessarily the even though he has fielded in recent years -- fueled it in recent years. i talked about the congressional districts. a lot of it has to do with party primaries and our use the republicans as an example. you see republicans primary voters there -- they like it the most conservative members of their party, far right links -- far right wings to represent

them and did not work for them. you saw democrats who elected more mainstream candidates, pennsylvania for example. you are seeing a lot of these primary voters galvanizing around polarizing issues. do not think it is helping the situation. do not think it is helping the situation. host: a two hour show today. 10 minutes left in this show before the house comes in for the day. mike in virginia, democrats. you are on with julia hill -- julia manchester of "the hill newspaper. caller: good morning. i'm a resident of maryland. when i look at this cpac, the

people they are bringing our insurrectionists, the type of people that want to take over the country and turn it around and mess it up. i can understand why people like real conservatives are not coming. in maryland, we have a bunch of races and were waiting for them to come and we are not going to put up with this foolishness. host: mike in maryland. how do you expect the issue of january 6 to play out during cpac? guest: i think it's going to be mentioned. i do not think it is going to be front and center. a related topic, 2020 presidential results and i suppose it election fraud is going to be talked about an election integrity, election security. you will hear candace -- candidates like kari lake, i do

not believe she succeeded, she has made, she is still one that raise in november. you will hear candace like her talk about that going forward. maybe january 6 does come up. i think it's a tricky situation for republican attendees, especially if you are nikki haley who didn't speak out against january 6 after it happened -- who did speak out against january 6 after it happened. you may have very right wing figures, not as well-known, you have a plethora of speakers, maybe you will hear some speakers bring it up, however for the high ones like nikki haley, may be mike pompeo it is going to be tricky for them because there are republican primary voters who say what happened on january 6 it was

awful what happened and unacceptable. host: what is your reading on the republican party after the nikki haley announcement? guest: it was a good announcement. she had a good rollout. i think there is some excitement for her. a lot of republican women have excitement she is running. she has always been a popular figure within the party scene is a rising star. i think the situation on cnn with don lemon questioning and saying she was out in her prime when she just 51 years old is in a way, we know those comments were taking offensively, that is helped bolster her profile. she fundraiser on it and talking about that issue. there is excitement and she has seen uptick in the pole. she's not backdu