host: good morning.

it is march 20. a three hour journal ahead. we begin with a focus on kevin mccarthy. republicans are attending their retreat. he is 75 days into his speakership. as he navigates the legislative landscape, he is navigating a landscape dominated by donald trump. we are asking you to grade kevin mccarthy's job as speaker in his efforts to lead republicans. we want to hear you on phone line split by political party. you can also send us a text. that number is (202) 748-8003.

please include your name and where you're from. you can catch up with us on social media. it is a happy monday morning to. start, now. we begin with speaker mccarthy's opening news conference from the policy retreat in florida. he spoke with reporters. the biggest news he made during the press conference was the attempted to tamp down on donald trump's call for protests in response to a possible arrest in connection with the manhattan district attorney's investigation into the former president. here is the headline from the hill newspaper. >> adamant people should protest. i think the president doesn't believe that. i think you may misinterpret

when the president talks. someone said they could protest, he was probably referring to tweeting. he's not talking about it in a harmful way. nobody should harm one another. this is why you should really make the law equal. that is what has to transpire. i have not spoken to trump. i have spoken to jim jordan. we have a select committee on the weaponization of government. i think you will see actions from them. >> >> determines what you think that means. i think what he is probably referring to is make sure the

law is equal. let me be very clear, no matter what transpires, we want calm this. what we are really saying here is we need equal justice in america. do you believe this is equal justice? do you think it's legally right? host: we will be showing more clips from that press conference they held yesterday at the beginning of this annual retreat. they are doing it this year in florida. in the wake of that retreat and the wake of the comments from speaker mccarthy, that is getting a lot of attention. we want to hear from you about

his job performance. we want to know what grade you would give him in his job as speaker. (202) 748-8000 is the number four democrats. (202) 748-8001 is the number four republicans. this from breitbart, citing a recent poll. his job approval and favorability are surging and superior to paul ryan at a similar point in his speakership. the poll shows he has an approval rating of 41%. that is a net gain of six points.

we are about 75 days into kevin mccarthy's speakership. we are asking you to grade his job performance so far. michael is in pittsburgh. go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call. i think he has done a great job. i think he has had some oversight in the congress. they have brought a lot of things to light. host: what hearing has interested you the most? caller: i have not time to look into the hearings.

what's that hearing on judicial oversight? the oversight committee. he's done a terrific job with that. he has uncovered a lot of things that need to be discussed. president biden's influence. the recent revelation that even hunter biden said he took money from the chinese has not been covered by the media. that is a revelation. host: that was mike in pittsburgh. how would you rate his speakership so far? caller: zero. he is a disgrace to america. he lies.

he is the weakest thing, no backbone. he kisses the butt of donald trump and marjorie taylor greene. he is a joke. he is not to be trusted. i can't wait until he is vacated. he should be vacated to mar-a-lago and he can pray to that monster, that pig in mar-a-lago. host: how would you grade his speakership? caller: i think he's doing a good job. the media it got its talking points. here it is, the media is focused on donald trump. the democrats allowed a former president of raping women.

it that is all you need to know about d.c. in the midst of the second democratic banking crisis, we were told there was no inflation. it was caused by vladimir putin. this is what donald trump is exposing. this is why the left despises him. host: it was last week amid the effort to go on the policy retreat, unveiling their first several pieces of legislation. he was talking about the energy plan. we are focusing on that plan about 8:30 a.m. this morning. they released that energy policy bill. >> every piece of legislation is

assigned a number. i get to pick we numbers are assigned one through 10 as a way to show how important that legislation is. i just announced hr one, it has a real shot at becoming law. it's going to do two things. restore american energy leadership. by repealing taxes and overregulation on energy producers. we can lead the world in clean energy. make it easier to build in america. every time we need a pipeline or a dam, it takes five years and millions of dollars in costs to the project the comply with the

process. we can streamline permanently to protect the environment. host: a video released by his office last week when the republicans rolled out hr one. we will focus on that this morning. we will have an energy roundtable. right now, we are talking about speaker kevin mccarthy. grade his job performance so far. dave in colorado, good morning. caller: what happened is trump

gave all his power away to get to be a speaker. he is just a figurehead. the freedom caucus is running the house of representatives now. when he gave the tapes to tucker carlsen, that gave it up for me. it really has no power. he is one vote away from being voted out. he knows it. host: what are your thoughts on this tweet yesterday. he said republicans are keeping our promises. 35 bills of past the house. you were talking about the

freedom caucus. he is seeking to highlight bipartisanship. caller: a lot of the bills that got passed are never going to pass the senate. everything is on oversight and this and that. there is nothing in those committees that will do anything. it seems like they are wasting a lot of time. host: that hr one, that energy policy bill, leaders in the senate have said it is dead on arrival in the senate. we will talk about it in one hour and 15 minutes. good morning. caller: good morning. how have you been?

i don't have many thoughts. i don't see him very often. the house is not been available. i don't have enough information on his job. hopefully we will protect trump. that's just my two cents. host: what do you mean protect trump? do you mean the secret service itself? caller: i am saying the secret service should protect him. that's just common sense to me. host: on the issue of not being on the house, every time the house is in session, we air it live in its entirety.

it is also available on our website as well. you can see it here. just turn on c-span would be my recommendation. your thoughts on it kevin mccarthy? caller: good morning. i give him zero credit. i don't think he's sensible, the way he got elected. he gave all of his power away right then. he has no power. to give all of the tapes to tucker carlsen, he really is a disgrace to america. he is truly a disgrace. host: here is more from speaker mccarthy yesterday. this is the annual policy retreat.

these were comments he made in that press conference. >> the numbers speak for themselves. we passed 35 bills. 30 of those have been bipartisan. that's more than 86%. you don't hear that a lot. we have already accomplished quite a bit. even before taking office, we were able to lift the covid vaccine mandate on our troops. we told the president to lift it now. we can meet the requirements that our troops could fill the void of recruitment we weren't reaching and stop moving the best men and women out of the service. we kept our promise.

we would stop funding 87,000 irs agents. the members have to show up for work. we reopened the people's house. we returned to regular order that empowers the people's voice in congress. we established the select committee on china. america has never spoke with one voice. we watched the benefits of it. we were able to pass the resolution condemning that balloon. we blocked the sale of oil to the strategic petroleum reserve to china. host: that was yesterday from

orlando, florida. the headline from the hill newspaper, republicans have challenges blooming. this is about 100 days into his speakership. these are graphs from that story. they notched some victories sending his position of crime legislating. this blindsided house democrats.

these are some of the victories the hill notes in their story for house republicans in these early days. we want to know what you think of his job performance. this is diana in arizona. caller: i think he will go down in history as the worst speaker of the house. the constant rolling back safety nets, it was the republicans who rollback the safety nets for the banks. he puts marjorie taylor green on committees.

he says he cares about safety. he won't stand up for these constant shootings killing our children all over the united states. i could go on and on. the man is a disgrace. host: that is diana in arizona. louisville kentucky, good morning. caller: good morning. what i would like to say is they should get him out from speaker. he is a disgrace. i would not vote for a republican again. host: when was the last time you voted for a republican? caller: this time. and i would not vote for him or any republican. they are ruining it for others. host: how have they ruined it

since the election? the last time you voted for republican? caller: we know why mccarthy is there. we know why marjorie taylor green -- it comes down to trump. i voted for him before. i would not vote for him again. host: when did you change your mind on trump? caller: the last time he was going up for running. host: why? caller: why what? why didn't i vote for him? host: what changed your mind? caller: because he's a disgrace. he didn't do anything while he was in there the first time. vladimir putin put him there. nobody else.

host: you voted for him the first time? caller: the first time i did. i guarantee i won't again. host: this is dan in michigan. caller: thanks for taking my call. i would give him a c minus. i understand the difficult position he is in. in order for him to get in there, he had to play to the extremists and the party. i'm talking about jim jordan, ardrey taylor agreement, paul gosar. i hope he is get the courage to stand up for what's right. he's in a very difficult position.

i voted for donald trump the first time. i didn't vote for any president the second time. i voted for representatives and local representatives. i'm not going to vote for president biden again. i am not going to vote for donald trump. i understand the position he's in. january 6 is my major stumbling block with the republican party. i tend to be conservative. that's my position on that. host: when it comes to kevin mccarthy and donald trump, this is a story from the weekend. this is in relation to what

expect to be an indictment of donald trump in the next couple of days. kevin mccarthy announced an investigation into the prosecutor's who are preparing to and died the former president. that is getting reaction over the weekend, including the house minority leader taking aim at his comments.

he said in his interview he strongly disagrees with kevin mccarthy statement. it's not clear what committees he is referring to. ats the minority leader over the weekend. back to your phone calls as we hear from you about speaker mccarthy. this is jim in california. good morning. caller: i would give him enough across the board. he barely squeaked past and the midterms to get a majority. the weakness he showed giving up these committee seats and attacking law enforcement.

every time i turn on the tv and i see his spiel about truth and he goes into this thing about how only the republicans were able to run the government with any authority. it's a laugh. you have the issues with the tea party, it didn't matter that they couldn't control those people. there is a new group, it's almost laughable. it's a disgrace to our country. we look like laughing stocks. you're talking about the repercussions of the iraq war. i know a carthy didn't have a lot to do with that. it just shameful.

they have no moral compass. host: you mentioned cpac. i don't believe he appeared at cpac this year, even though it took place down the river. any thoughts on him not being there? caller: i don't give him a lot of credence. his ability to do things in a timely manner, i think is just a weak person when it comes to that. host: this is mike in new york. good morning. caller: good morning. i give him na+. i know the democrats hate it when the bill of rights is put in place. that's a big racist document. freedom will always win.

we are not going to give up. i have faith in the system and i have faith in the constitution. had pence done what trump wanted and nullified the electoral college, it automatically goes to the house of representatives for a vote. nancy pelosi would've had to install joe biden. it's automatic. this way, the democrats could act like they didn't know who joe biden was. they would have had to install him. host: that was mark in florida. it is coming up on 730. here are a few of your social media comments:

caller: going on caller: i thought he would be worse than he is. democrats should be mad for him. acting like you are republican, nobody is buying that. check this out. host: you said you thought he was going to be worse. why did you think that?

caller: i really thought he would be more of an establishment. he's trying to thread the needle. i've been surprised. host: what specifically surprised you? caller: committee assignments. the release of the tape. i don't have a big problem that. i think they should release it and put it all out there. may i address one more thing? the lady brought up the guns. we are the most armed nation in the world. we've got more guns and any other country. there is not a gun issue.

host: i'm sure we will have other topics on guns in the future. we are talking about kevin mccarthy. the phone lines are as usual. a couple of viewers have run up this issue already today. it's a headline grabbing issue. he provided footage to tucker carlsen and fox news. this is from the national review.

that story is in the new republic. this is steve in cleveland. good morning. caller: this is so awesome. i am a religious listener. i have sirius xm. thank you for allowing me to get my voice out. the reason i called today is with your first clip about mccarthy and how he described the word of. donald trump said on social media to protest the fact that

he is being arrested. kevin mccarthy said you don't understand what the word protest is. i don't know if i'm in a different reality. when you say something like protest, that doesn't mean a tweet. it doesn't mean to talk about a tweet. it means to do another january 6. he has a background of doing this stuff. he is still defending him. it blows my mind how people can agree with this. i just cannot fathom why people are following him. he is literally telling you to break the law. it's outrageous. host: this is how it ends.

the leading republican candidate and former president will be arrested on tuesday. protest, take our nation back. that was from saturday. this is jeff in ohio. what are your thoughts? caller: good morning from a sunny cold ohio. i give him a 10 plus. he has exposed the democrats for what they are, a bunch of fascists. not one democrat is appeared. it's very sad.

the democrats don't care about open borders. the exposure of twitter, how these two gentlemen were telling the house oversight committee about what they found on twitter . these democrats ambushed and harassed these two democrat speakers from twitter. host: you said he's been exposing democrats. he was talking about the bipartisanship that has happened with legislation passed in the house. he talked about the bipartisanship of the select committee on china and the work done there. what do you think about him

talking about bipartisanship? caller: they signed a huge bipartisan open up the files and get transparency on what happened. it is still sitting on joe biden's desk. he would think they would want to know what's going on with china. all the money that he's received from china. host: here is more from speaker mccarthy during his policy retreat that started yesterday. >> our government is designed to

have compromise. i was proud that 146 democrats joined us. we've given china a pass. we've never spoken with one voice. if you watched the first hearing, even the washington post gave an editorial about how it was a new day. the minority leader and i sat together and met with the select committee. we wanted to speak with one voice and tell them we wanted this to be bipartisan. we wanted to come together. america would never be dependent on china. our industry should not be dependent on china. how can we bring those jobs back? we been able to clean up the

intel committee. that became the impeachment committee. when we first constituted that committee, the minor leader and myself interested together. partisan bickering that happened in the intel committee in the last conference, we missed afghanistan. no longer should that transpire. i want republicans and democrats to work together. making sure we do not lose the battle to ai and quantum to china or russia. host: that was speaker mccarthy yesterday. they will be meeting again today and tomorrow. democrats had their retreat to

talk policy. how would you great his job performance? florida, what are your thoughts? caller: good morning. i would ask guilt -- actually, give him a plus. i have voted both ways. the difference between an independent and the republicans and democrats, and independent thanks independently and critically. i can't help but have noticed in the past four years, the democrats have become very tribal. when they call in it, they are

emotional. they don't really have anything constructive to say. it has gotten out of control. they have become a party of fascists. host: how do you think kevin mccarthy has done on political division? on trying to bridge that division? caller: he is trying to be bipartisan. he doesn't have enough power. that's because of the senate. it is a shame all of the

propaganda in the entire media, which is the reason he gave the tapes to fox news. they are the only one left. at&t and directv have gotten rid of one america. fox news is the only one left with an opposing viewpoint. we are doomed. we have got a president who has been taking bribes for years. the democrats in new york -- they are incapable of and dependent thought. host: why are you and and dependent and not a republican?

caller: i have been both. i am an independent. like the earlier caller said, the democrats are fascists. they are taking our freedoms away. host: this is tom in portland. what grade would you give kevin mccarthy? caller: thank you for taking my call. it's a beautiful thing that kevin mccarthy is there. one reason the progressives --

every day, they are getting more and more embarrassed by what kevin mccarthy is doing it, along with the twitter files. they just keep going on every day. don't they understand the cia, the dea, the doj, all of those garbage organizations are going to be in jail. host: got your point. go ahead. caller: i'm going to try and stay away from the divisive stuff.

the republican standpoint, most republicans would say he's doing a bang up job. across the aisle, we think he's just thus far as far as his press releases and the gaggle's we see him in it, they are throwing red meat to the republicans. we are attempting to straighten the doj out. very much airing all these grievances. on the other hand, that would make the republicans happy. democrats see this business of advancing 30 pieces of legislation to the senate where the likelihood is most of them will die, we go that's not so much.

as far as an actual grade goes, he is down there pretty far. host: what do you think about their ability to negotiate on the debt ceiling. we spend a lot of time about the debt ceiling crisis. do you trust they can negotiate and come to an agreement? how will they work on that issue? caller: i am hopeful along with the majority of the country that some agreement can be reached. my gut tells me mccarthy in the republicans are advancing this business of cuts in what they like to call entitlement programs. eventually, that will fade. in the news cycle, we hear less and less about this argument over the debt ceiling.

we do this time and again. we get right up against that point before some decision is made. i see president biden as an affable guy to get along with. he sees values in the arguments on both sides and is doing his best to be a mediator. mccarthy has been assigned his position. he has very little wiggle room. there are people in that one video you showed, he is wearing a vest outside. my eyes fall to stephani. i was amused when i said she's just waiting for a chance to knife cabin in the back. host: when you say he's been assigned his position, who assigned his position?

caller: are you talking about who assigned kevin his position? that gaggle of folks who held up his candidacy as far as becoming speaker. they exhorted a great deal of force in this matter. they have become somebody to be dealt with. even though the likelihood is they are kind of in the minority. host: this is indiana. go ahead. caller: good morning. what i see, i think i voted for him. he's doing a very good job. what he wants is for both parties to get along. democrats do not want to along.

host: did you feel this about him in january? this is from 538. on january 6, this was during the debate over the speaker, the 15 rounds of voting. caller: i was rooting for him the entire way. he was republican. that's me. i am a republican. i will vote independent. i think he is doing a good job, even though he's trying to get along with both sides. i cannot recall when we got

together in the house and the democrats didn't show up. host: what issue was that? caller: i'm not sure. i just seen it. i am a working woman. the headline was democrats were nowhere to be found. host: this is julie in connecticut. good morning. caller: i was listening to a comparison c-span was making to paul ryan and mccarthy. mccarthy had a slight lead. in my mind, the last speaker had command of the house while mccarthy has got one foot out the door. he is deathly afraid of his

people. they eat their own. turning over all that video of the january 6 two not the entire press but to a right-wing outlet , he is so afraid of getting voted out. there is a saying. if you want to clean the neighborhood, start with cleaning your house. he has got santos and he's afraid to mention that name. that is one less vote he has. whenever he talks about being bipartisan, that's all theory. host: you talked about the

comparison to speaker ryan. breitbart brought that up. they were talking about his approval rating in mid-march, comparing that to paul ryan at a similar point. what did you think of speaker ryan? caller: i thought that he was a very partisan guy. nothing like this guy. this guy is in fear while speaker ryan was a negotiator. i don't think you have to fear mr. mccarthy. we are talking about the vote on

extending the debt ceiling. you don't have to worry. you have to worry about mr. mccarthy. i think he will be long gone. he will be eaten by his own people before that happens. host: this is cj in california up early. good morning. go ahead. caller: good morning. it's a good week. the tax cheat is going to be indicted this week. i can't give a grade two mccarthy. host: lisa is in texas. good morning. go ahead. we will try for lisa?

we will go to ron in michigan. good morning. caller: i give him a 10. he had to fight to get in. [indiscernible] i'm glad he's doing what he is doing. he is getting the country back on track. host: we have a few minutes left in this first segment. we are asking you to grade his job performance as a. he is about 75 days into his term as speaker.

go ahead and keep calling in. we're are having this conversation until the top of the hour. we've been focusing on domestic news. some news from the international side, a state visit to russia. that is on the washington post. it is coming today to vladimir putin and moscow.

the other headline, hate can he broker peace? one more note about vladimir putin, late saturday evening, he visited a ukrainian city captured after the invasion. he went to the black sea area and visited mariupol. it was his first visit there. the headline from the washington times says the peninsula was

annexed from ukraine in 2014. there is plenty of video of him traveling around and pictures of him meeting with vocal residents. back to your phone calls. we are talking about kevin mccarthy. we are asking you to grade his speakership. good morning. caller: good morning. i will doy best to answer your question. i believe that speaker mccarthy receives a b grade. in order for him to come into his position, he made a lot of concessions to the far right leaning republicans. they held him hostage on that. also elevating people like marjorie taylor greene to specific seats when she was a

conspiracy theorist and election denier. they are celebrated from under his watch. with him leaking information to fox news about the video. i think that was shortsighted on his part, knowing they were going to diminish the validity of what happened on january 6. i think that was outside his domain. i don't believe he will continue to do anything wholeheartedly to be bipartisan. he is propped up because he swings right. host: how do you see how he has navigated donald trump and ron desantis and this primary fight

between the two of them? what do you think his role has been as a political outsider? caller: i believe his best option is to duck and cover. that's what he has been doing. he knows his political career swings in the balance between moderate republicans and ultra maggot republicans. -- maga republicans. he is the type of character that will go where the power is as long as he stays in power, which is indicative of what the rollicking party is. i am thinking about becoming independent. one of your previous collars dissuaded me from doing that. i will stick in my post for a moment longer. host: i know you're one of our regular collars.

good morning. caller: good morning. mccarthy gets an a for one point. he is turning the light to what is going on at the border, which the previous congress didn't. maybe people don't realize how bad it is if you don't live in california or texas or arizona. it's really bad. with drugs coming over, at least he is bringing light to this. host: that was our last caller in this first segment. we've got a lot more to talk about. we will be joined by politico to break down the week ahead here in washington and in congress.

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continues. host: we like to take a look at the week ahead in congress. we are joined by political reporter nancy vu. house republicans are at capitol hill a policy retreat in orlando. letting you know about the agenda today and tomorrow and who they will be hearing from down there. guest: republicans gathered in orlando, florida to basically prepare and basically develop a strategy to keep their senate majority. a lot of that has been overshadowed by the news of donald trump predicting he would be arrested this coming week. kevin mccarthy had to answer a lot of questions in regards to that. basically, over the past week and he also tweeted -- a lot of tweets have been targeted towards new york district attorney. he was threatening committee

investigations into ellen brack and possible political interference with the investigation. host: do we know which committee would pick this up or what interference they would look at? what is the oversight responsibility? guest: he mentioned when he was being questioned he was talking to jim jordan and it seemed the committee would be the one looking into it but we will see some of the details later today. host: with the house republicans in florida, looming large over this policy retreat donald trump and ron desantis at this point ron desantis not even an official candidate yet but how many house republicans actually picked a course in the upcoming presidential race and are saying this is my candidate for 2024? guest: there are a few republicans who have voiced their support for example

marjorie taylor greene has voiced her support for trump. in comparison to vegas past elections as well not a lot of republicans are around donald trump this time around they are playing the waiting game they're trying to essentially let the race play out a little bit more before they vocalize their endorsement. host: compared to previous elections for with the expectation of when they have to start choosing sides. guest: i think when ron desantis announces he is a candidate and when the candidates also file everything and when we start to get a clear sense of the race and who are the other candidates as well we will start to see a lot more republicans pitch and and picking who will be there endorsement or who they are endorsing. host: we spent the first hour talking about speaker mccarthy, two great his job performance so

far. several viewers bring up the role of the freedom caucus when it comes to the republican conference. what is your thought about how much power the freedom caucus has when it comes to influencing with happening right now, the policy discussion, the legislative mapping of strategy going forward for house republicans? guest: i think they are influenced and how it speaks to their influence. they make up a large portion of the caucus already and mccarthy relied on them to get the speakership though. the influence over the budget and the debt ceiling are also playing out as well. the day after president joe biden released his budget plan the house freedom caucus also released a one page of their minimum ask. basically, this is what would get them to vote on a bill to raise the debt ceiling.

a lot of their, their main ask has consisted on reducing funding, balancing the federal budget, and keeping spending levels at 2022 levels. host: give viewers specific details, tapping nondefense discretionarypending for the next decade. we are spending on spent pandemic funds. health law, blocking the presi's student debt relief and work ruiments on federal benefit programs like medicaid, enacting legislation to curb regulations for energy production. these are the asks you're talking about. how many of those are likely to make it into some sort of final compromise? guest: the ask of trying to balance federal spending while also keeping it at 22 levels is a large ask. i think a lot of policy analysis

has been centered around the fact that this is a pretty impossible -- the plan that house republicans may propose, we will have to see what they come up with. overall, i think it's going to be a large task for mccarthy to coalesce. host: nancy vu is our guest this morning. what is the name of the note that you work on? guest: congress minutes. it's a platform that covers everything about congress and often the stories that are overlooked. we cover hearings, anything that is of the interest to those that work on capitol hill and those that observe it as political junkies. host: a story that was overlooked last week? guest: st. patrick's day, there

was a representative brian fitzpatrick introduced a bill that would make st. patrick's day a federal holiday. host: how likely is that to become law? guest: we will have to see how many people coalesce around this. host: nancy vu with us about 15-20 minutes. republicans (202) 748-8001. democrats (202) 748-8000. independents (202) 748-8002. shift over to the senate, what do we know about how funding when it comes to mitch mcconnell? guest: the latest update was last week when senator mitch mcconnell's office released a statement about how he's doing. he has been discharged from the hospital. he had a minor group fracture and now he is recuperating within a rehab center. we are not sure when senator

mitch mcconnell will return to the senate but his absence has been felt amongst the republican caucus. senator john boone is working in conjunction with mcconnell's aids. host: what are the key policy issues this week? guest: the senate specifically they are looking to vote on repealing the 1991 and 2002 authorization to bring military force. this would essentially end the gulf and iraq wars. the first measure, the first step to repealing this was taken last thursday. it was voted bipartisanly. so i think even with senator mitch mcconnell out and also

senator feinstein and john fetterman also out this measure won't have any trouble of getting past the finish line. host: how does president biden feel about that? guest: president biden has vocalized, i believe, support for the issue but we will have to see how it plays out. host: one of the issues on the senate site and what about the house site this week? guest: the house side is focusing on passing the bill of rights -- they are voting on legislation this week what it does is it's a component of kevin mccarthy's commitment to america act. it would amend the elementary and secondary act of 1965. it would requires goals to provide reading materials and also make acceptable their curriculum. it affirms parents'rights to

challenge the school curriculum and address school boards and also perceive information about violent activity in their schools. host: sort of a playbook for the road ahead this week in congress here on monday morning. plenty of colors for you. nancy vu, congressional reporter on politico. if you want to give her of follow. this is george, cleveland, ohio you are up first. caller: hi, how are you today? host: what's your question? caller: the problem with the democrats, doing ok. he's doing fine because the democratic leadership is so young because schumer and the other lady, they ran the show for so long. they don't have any experience on what to do and mccarthy is

our only hope. plus there's not a lot of money to spend anymore. we've spent it all. that's all it got to say. host: that's george in ohio. we are asking viewers to grade kevin mccarthy's speakership we are about 75 days in his speakership. a time that speakers like to take notes of what they've done in the first couple of months do we know anything that kevin mccarthy is going to be doing for his first 100 days? guest: i'm not sure mccarthy is doing anything to signify this huge mark in his leadership. what i do know that during the retreat, mccarthy was also touting the number of bipartisan bills that have passed the house. if the number of bills that have passed the house and kevin mccarthy has also been able to

pass bills that relate by republicans and also passed the senate as well. that includes an anti-esg bill. environment, social, government. it allows fiduciaries to consider esg factories when taking retirement plans. it passed the house and senate as well president biden is excited to veto the measure. host: we talked a little bit about it in our last hour. this tweet from yesterday evening from kevin mccarthy house republicans keeping our promises. three month into the new congress and so for 35 bills have passed the house. democrats have joined republicans for 30 of those. 86% pretty remarkable. when it comes to those bills he's talking about, what are some of the examples of those bipartisan bills, the high-profile examples? guest: some of those have been

the esg measure but also there have been a number of measures that have been led by republicans all across the board so there was a measure to ban tick-tock off of federal devices. that was signed into law by september as well. there is a number of bills and the whole issue of tiktok has been ramping up amongst republicans and democrats within the senate specifically mark warner and also john boone have introduced measures nationwide this would allow secretary of commerce to give a process, essentially, to ban tiktok. that can also be a measure or in area of bipartisanship amongst democrats and republicans.

host: the efforts to overturn the d.c. crime bill also received a partisan support. guest: right. a number of senate democrats have joined republicans to pass the measure and put it through the finish line. within the house an arch number -- a large number also joined to pass the measure as well. at the 11th hour joe biden signaled he will not veto the measure. host: kathy in north carolina, you are on with nancy for. caller: thank you for giving me a voice this morning. i think kevin mccarthy is doing a great job but he doesn't have the power to get anything done regarding the congress and with the countries been facing. the persecution of president trump. i am a maga supporter.

you will not win an election without maga. you will not win a senate without maga. you can put money into the campaign but you need us voters to get out and vote. when we don't vote, nobody is winning. we are tired of it. another thing as, we are done with the republican party. they don't get what people are saying. we are tired of the establishment. we want the old rhinos gone. we need somebody with strength and intelligence to get us out of the mess that biden has but the country in. host: can i ask you what, when it comes to motivating maga which you said republicans have to do does ron desantis not motivate macca? caller: unfortunately not

because we were cheated out of our president in 2020 and it's coming out and i don't see how the democrats have the nerve to talk to us about us being radical. about january 6, please. talk about cherry picking. the democrats have done nothing but cherry pick for the last five or six years. the russia collusion, this case and that case. they have done nothing but persecute our president. host: that is kathy in north carolina. when it comes to capitol hill back to congress we talk about what's happening on the floor of the house and senate, key committee meetings you are focusing on what are you looking for? guest: on the subject of tiktok the energy and commerce committee will be having a committee hearing on tiktok but also mainly focusing on

protecting american data and privacy while also making sure that the children that often use tiktok are protected as well. and efforts to ramp up and ban it, efforts to bennett have definitely ramped up. the budget committee will have a hearing on thursday for the budget request. the office of budget -- management and budget director will testify before house republicans. just last week, she testified in front of senate republicans and it got a little bit heated with mitt romney. basically asking her to name republicans that were aiming to cut social security and medicare and it got really tense between the two. i expect a lot of fireworks on that end as well. host: more tense on the house identity senate side? guest: the house is usually a

little bit more tense. host: mount vernon ohio, republican. caller: the oversight role -- rule. clear disregard for the rule of law therefore he should be moved from the board of directors i hope you enjoyed the rally we had. thank you. host: that was ethan, mount vernon, ohio. guest: congress has a couple of hearings scheduled for the train derailment. there is a bill that they are coalescing around to help try and basically try to fix some of the regulations that could have led to the train derailment. we have yet to see if they're going to be -- there are going to be more hearings.

host: ray, syracuse, new york. good morning. caller: good morning. i appreciate the guest mentioning something i called in for. basically, the pressure that was put on speaker mccarthy was he had to go along with some ways that he could be removed. he not doing his job as he promised. it would take a minimum of one person to call for a recall and that gives them power so that he can't run the show apart from the people that put him in the office. i just remind people that if you go back to the declaration, we

did not want to be ruled from across the ocean with the representation. that is exactly the idea that they asserted in those five votes. we're not going to give up the representation just because of the election. that's all. host: that was ray in syracuse, new york. speaker mccarthy's speakership, how secure it is. guest: he brings up an interesting point. a point that is often overlooked during the speakership bid. most major confession kevin mccarthy made was in regards to how many votes it would take remembers it would take to call for revoking the speaker of the house right now it takes just one person to call for that however the next step would also

republicans are not happy with what he's doing. host: back to capitol hill, the front page of the wall street journal this morning stories focused on bank regulation what is the latest when it comes to congress and oversight and bank regulations this week. guest: just over this weekend the house financial services committee had said they were going to schedule a meeting or a hearing that would investigate the collapse of silicon valley. try to get to the root of the issue and how it happened. host: to hattie next. caller: good morning. some years back when donald trump met with vladimir putin in our country, he had a private

meeting with the secretary, nobody, nobody came out and said on the republican side or the democrat side said what went on in their with him having vladimir putin. host: what's your question? caller: my question is why are they throwing everything on biden who just i mean he's in office now. it doesn't make sense to blame whatever is happening, it would happen to all of us. were all going to get this far. i wanted to know why, everything the coming up with why hasn't anyone said why did a president of the united states have a meeting with a lot of me -- host: got your point.

more on the international front that question coming on a day when for vladimir putin is meeting with xi jinping the chinese president making that visit the focus on russia in congress anymore hearings this week we should know about? guest: not to my knowledge that there is a new hearing in regards to russia specifically. but there is attention to the issue of china and russia and their alliance and how it may play into the issue of ukraine. the bipartisan sentiment amongst those democrats and republicans as we must support ukraine by giving more aid and giving more military weapons especially considering that there was reporting that there was reporting the china was also sending dual use equipment to russia and this could mark somewhat of a substantial shift

in the foreign policy in which china -- there are reports that china is it supporting russia in this way. host: talking about the week ahead we should talk about the day ahead let viewers know at 2:00 p.m. eastern the energy specter. set to discuss u.s. industrial competitiveness and that is hosted by the washington post you can watch live at 2:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, c-span now and of course c-span.org is where you can watch. what else are you working on today? guest: as you know both the house and the senate are out. republicans will be at the retreat and finishing up their. --there. we will have to see about the conversation mccarthy had with jim jordan and how it plays out with the arrest of

donald trump. host: gabriel, apex, north carolina. you are on with nancy vu. caller: thanks so much. let me ask a question and try to get an idea or concept of where things might stand with the decoupling of the american economy and china at this point. specifically, some of the things i'm hearing about that capitol hill, you know, there between with an idea at this point. around medicine and imported ppe , things that were very essential during the pandemic i just wonder if you've heard anything about that if there has been a focus on generics being manufactured and then broadly sort of the decoupling from china within our economy given the tension. guest: there have been a couple of bills for lawmakers in general to be more caucus on china.

josh hawley had introduced a bill that would essentially ban chinese companies from owning american farmland and that's one example of how lawmakers are trying to increase the focus on american businesses as well. host: nancy fu is with politico that is where you can see her work and also on twitter at nancyvu99. up next this morning we will take a closer look at the energy bill proposed by house republicans last week. and k stein of the american energy alliance will join us stick around for that conversation right after the break. ♪

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energy costs act ahead that conversation this morning. the first time at washington journal by kenny stein good morning to you. first on hr one, what does it do and what do you like or not like about it? guest: it's the republicans version of march madness. it would lock us into decades of dependence on oil, gas, and coal when we need to be shifting away from those fuels to power our future. number two it would get some of the foundational safeguards we depended on for 50 years to protect clean air and water and public health. number three it would dim the voices of the people living on the front lines of environmental hazards as a result of living near factories and refineries. it should be defeated

immediately if the house can get on with the business of trying to govern host: there's nothing you like about this guest: guest: legislation? there's nothing to like about this legislation. >> i think the goal is obviously the headline is mostly about encouraging domestic production of energy but also mining, that sort of thing and also about what bob was talking about is the private reform and trying to make some adjustments to the policy act which unfortunately there is a lot with wasik senses. host: does it come into play

when you're trying to build something? it's actually very simple not really design consider the environmental impacts of any federal project it is extended to include anything the federal government contributes there no has to be an analysis done and that happens at every step of the way the initial permitting stage, once you start building there can be a lawsuit that says you have to go back and look at the original. this goes on forever sometimes that happens after the project has been completed. host: and you say a major part of this bill hr one it will lower energy costs act about 200 pages long has guest: it gotten

too big? this is the national environmental policy act that passed by in overwhelmingly bipartisan majority in 1969. signed into law by richard nixon. what it does is ensures responsibility for public oversight when you build a factory, highway. number two it gives people who are going to be directly impacted by this project so people live with the impact for a long time it gives them a place at the table and it makes the projects better because it insists on looking at improvements, modifications, sometimes even alternatives so it makes for better policies with the national policy it basically says nobody is stuck with about project. host: the natural resources defense council what is the

strategic director do there? guest: try to understand and pull together the mission of our people. we have about 800 pol we do three things. so the truth about what's happening, work for policy solutions, use our laws and courts to hold them to account. host: for some on "washington journal" what is the institute, what's the mission? host: as the title suggests we find energy policy. we argue for freedom markets environmental policies that can involve members on grassroots organizations. explaining some of the more complex policy things and explain that. host: the institute for energy

research? get back to hr one the ellet -- legislation introduced by republicans. they want to move on capitol hill. the house majority that bill this past week. [video clip] >> i think when the country sees how smart it can lower cost for them not just at the pump where it is 40% higher the household electricity costs are double digits higher. it's one reason you're paying more at the grocery stores. if the public gets engaged in this issue we have a chance of getting this done. in two weeks this bill will be on the house floor. you have these committees involved in putting this package together and it's going to show the country help we can be energy independent even though a lot of officials have no idea

how to do this. were going to show the country how it can be done better than anywhere else in the world and let the country get involved. host: focusing on lowering cost side of energy costs. what is the biden administration doing to address lowering energy costs? guest: we have a policy and the main idea here is to shift away, break our dependence on fossil fuels holding our families and businesses hostas to prices we can't control. and that are emboldening and enriching the warchest of belligerent petrol states like russia. congress enacted and biden signed into law the inflation reduction act to reduce our energy costs and part of what it does is provide $370 billion over 10 years to help us shift to cleaner, smarter ways to

power our future. to build factories here in this country to strengthen our supply chain, to build out the energy architecture of the future right here in this country and guess what it's working. it's been a big success. we've had $4 billion just since this was passed. $64 billion in investment nationwide creating 53 thousand new jobs in places like kansas, 3000 new jobs for a battery factory there. ohio, georgia, 2500 jobs to create solar factories -- solar panel factories. north carolina 1500 jobs recycling high-tech batteries for electric vehicles. if the republicans set this one out, every single one of them voted against this and now it's a big fat success they want to distract us by coming up with this kind of a nonsense bill. there needs to be -- host: what did you think of the

biden legislation from laster. guest: the mentioning we were just about the projects. they are subject to review. a lot of them are going to be held up and may not end up happening and that is the point of the eye are a still have to deal with this and getting through the bills process since you are getting money from the federal government biggest issues we were just talking about. obviously most of what was passed in the ira i don't agree with. the various technology, energy in the future is going to lead -- people searching for subsidies instead of investing in technology.

i think that's part of eliminating the unnecessary barriers particularly on fuels like natural gas that work added on. it lowers energy prices for the average consumer. rather than these future -- something that might be built in the future. the numbers to the fear to join. i will give you a chance to respond. republicans (202) 748-8001. if democrats (202) 748-8000. independents (202) 748-8002. if they will be with us for the next few minutes but start calling and now if you want to get in on the conversation. guest: on building things we do think there are ways we can modernize and strengthen the approval process.

it starts with congress actually. make sure we fund the nations we depend on. they have the resources needed to do the job. congress needs to give the regulatory commission the authority to approve long-distance interstate transmission lines that right now individual states can veto. the second thing we need to do is something that is a proven method. you get all stakeholders in a project together, local scholars business leaders put together to identify concerns and address them right at the start of a project. host: why doesn't that happen now? guest: it does but it used to happen more. you will have a pipeline and it turns out it's going through the aquifers that farmers depend on for their water that has to be rerouted so that's the kind of

thing were talking about. it's been there for millions of years. there are things we can do we need to build out clean energy infrastructure there are things we can strengthen and improve the process. there is quite a lot we can do. host: you got chuck schumer on the senate floor last week talking about hr one this is the majority leader in the senate. [video clip] >> it's not difficult to see that the proposal is nothing more than a wish list for big oil, masquerading as energy. no serious energy package has it safeguards on fossil fuel projects. leaving out necessary permitting reforms. rather than prepare for the future republicans big oil wish list would launch america into dirty energy sources. the republican energy plan would

set us back decades in our transition for clean energy it shows the influence that big oil has on the republican house caucus. it seems this package was almost written by big oil. so let me be clear the house republicans so-called energy bill is dead on arrival in the senate. dead on arrival. and i would say to my colleagues, we could still get something done. fortunately, many democrats and republicans understand we need bipartisanship in order to produce a real energy package. there is a lot happening in good faith about the possibilities of a permitting deal. i strongly, strongly support both sides working together to arrive at a real energy bipartisan package. not the partisan wish list republicans have introduced. host: on those comments and the effort of alluding to come up

with some sort of permitting deal? guest: he mentioned transmission as part of that is in this just elation some trans -- transmission pockets extensive genova review. the legislation does include geothermal transmission. there's other things in it. i think overall there's a point in their that cement -- senator schumer mentioned about bipartisan discussion. it's designed to unite the house as he just said it's not going to pass in the senate. it's an important exercise not just for the messaging basically challenging the biden administration gas prices are too high. everything the administration has been doing is to intent --

restrict production and increase gas prices. there are elements of this a legislation that i think are opening the discussions. there was permitting language. there is a pretty broad bipartisan agreement there are things that need to be updated or changed and so i think it will be part of that discussion. host: anything about the permitting reform? >> as i sat there so much we can do. let's talk about one thing. the environmental protection agency has identified more than 200,000 sites around the country, more than 40 million acres of land that has been contaminated or has been abandoned factories or abandoned

mines or landfills that can be used to cite these projects. it's also true for example in the logan township of new jersey there is a power plant that's being used to make utility scale batteries to store clean power. very important. piney river in virginia, and abandoned titanium mine is going to power 13,000 homes right there in the heart of virginia. salem, massachusetts. a port that had been the site of a power plant being used as an operation, logistics, and facility to mine wind power. they are worth a pavone. host: for the approval needed for these projects are talking about are these projects being held up for years and years because of approval? host: that is a myth the

republicans have been on for decades because they're trying to got this act for decades. the review takes typically 131 days. very few projects that are submitted, less than 2% even require an environmental impact statement. this is a result of a study that was done, 34,000 projects the averages 131 days for this review. so it's a myth republicans have been touting for a long time because they want to cut this act. were not going to let it happen. host: staying on this for a second, your thoughts on that but also the environmental impact is how this works? guest: first several say that the average is a bit misleading because there's lots of projects that were controversial. it's the larger projects, long-distance transition line,

those of the types of things where it costs billions of dollars to get through and can take many years. the process, there are two different types. there is a lower level assessment and a higher level impact statement and the impact statement will take much longer to do, cost a lot more money and require man-hours to complete. whether you go through -- which ever you go through depends on the project what impact it might be having and can depend on if they come in demanding a high-level review. at sometimes can be someone saying you need to go back. brief review. the key problem here is not the

fact that we need to consider environmental issues the problem is the negation it opens up this is its large organizations. they show up in places and sue to try to stop projects. or they get involved in elections like in may they got to dry -- they tried to get together to stop hydroelectricity. host: on litigation, how much of what you do and not just you how

much is it litigation is it the focus of what you do? guest: it's our last resort, john. we tried to engage with laws. they've enshrined our values, they enshrine our collective interest as a nation of people. a community that cares for each other and looks out for each other so we have conversations about what is and is not in compliance with the law. we will ask for help with that. host: let me bring in some callers. independent, virginia, good morning. caller: good morning, gentlemen. the tires on the electric cars are made with dirty fossil fuels. the plastic interior is made with 30 fossil fuels, steel panels, the toothbrush you use, all of it is made with these dirty, nasty fossil fuels that -- the ukraine takes and they run off nasty fossil fuels and nobody --

host: what's your question? caller: gasoline powered missiles. come on, guys. quit pushing the electric theory propaganda we need both. stop pushing the agenda. >> he makes a great point which is for 250, 3 hundred years we built up an infrastructure that is based on fossil fuels. here's where we are today. in a world of hurt. we are burning so much oil, gas, coal we are choking the life out of the planet. we have burned as much fossil fuel globally as we did in all of history weeding up to that and we have raised a carbon level in the atmosphere to its highest level in 3.6 million years. george w. bush told us that a

former oilman said in his 2000 state of the union address we have a problem in this country and he said we are going to help provide support for hybrid cars. look where we are today. lester, electric vehicle sales rose 70% we are going to sell more than one million of those chevy volts, fort f-150's were going to sell more than a million of these electric cars this year alone. by 2030, half of the new cars in this country are going to be electric cars. host: is there a day we don't need fossil fuels and if so how far away is that they? guest: is not going to happen overnight we didn't get here overnight. it's taken centuries to get here but over time we got to get that down. is there a day we won't need fossil fuels at all? i don't think that will come here in my lifetime but we can

do away with 80% by 2050. then we can offset the remaining with natural climate solutions like strengthening our forests. steps like that to manage what's left. host: do you think it's possible to do away with 80% of the fossil fuel by 2050? >> the original point of what the color was saying is that the use of oil and natural gas in our society isn't just transportation fuels. it's everything. all the electric vehicles that are being built, plastic comes from petroleum. the factories, the steel, it's made using natural gas. all products of the modern world really go back to petroleum products and natural gas. in order to eliminate those things you have to eliminate a lot of the things that we take

for granted in and industrialized society. that's just not going to happen. people are not going to reduce their standard of living on a chance that 150 euros for another might be a problem. guest: were talking about improving standard of living talking about someone who is driving the show people and ask them how they like it. they love it. not having to drop 50 bucks to fill a tank. >> we also talked to people in states that have skyrocketing electricity prices because they have intermittent -- denmark had the highest electricity rates and they also have the concentration of wind power. the high electricity prices, that's why there's been pushback on a lot of these projects.

people don't want to pay for it. we're thinking more about the folks in ohio and kentucky then germany. was really happening is wind and solar is the cheapest way to produce electricity in the country right now almost anywhere. that's why iowa is getting 58% of its electricity from wind power and it's helping the family ranch and farming. texas, oil capital of the world. 24% of its electricity is from wind turbines. >> and there's always blackouts. host: lets bring some calls. we are halfway through our conversation and tim is waiting in wisconsin. good morning to you. i think we lost tim. leo, illinois. caller: first of all. i think everybody should get down on their hands and knees and thank donald trump. number two agrippina

manufacturing. i went to a vocational school. i spent 20 years in a factory if were going to give out money to these corporations last time they had tax subsidies that were given to them, millions of dollars, and they sent it to china and used all the technology gains and handed them over to china. my question is to mr. manufacturing, what size drill bit do you use to have a 20 whole? >> thank you for the call. again to answer the question i'm grateful for people like you who have the skills, the tool enzyme makers. the people who have the skills and the knowledge and the know-how to bring this manufacturing back to this country. that's exactly what's happening.

there's a shortage of skilled workers like yourself right now. organized labor is trying to train up workers that we need to fill those needs but there is no question that manufacturing is returned to this country. there is a heartland manufacturing with clean energy at its core of talking about $4.5 billion factory in ohio to help build electric batteries and electric vehicles talking about spartanburg, south carolina more than $1 billion to build electric vehicles there. manufacturing is coming back to this country. it's happening largely as a result of that package that was passed last summer and signed into law by president biden. host: is west virginia part of that? >> absolutely. host: scott, was virginia, good morning. caller: good morning, gentlemen.

what about all the dead whales on the east coast? that's my only question. guest: the reason that whales are dying are many reasons. one reason is the sonic boom that has enveloped our oceans as a result of commercial shipping. it leaves them unable to hunt, unable to start a family. unable to find their way through migratory routes. if there is an issue here, please investigate it. we haven't seen any evidence yet that wind turbines are killing whales. i'm glad you called because the eastern plateau of west virginia is one of the leading wind producers anywhere in the nation. the wind coming over the mountains. west virginia is an important part. it has advanced manufacturing work being done at the

university of west virginia that is helping our workplaces become more efficient. we are grateful for the contribution of the people of west virginia. host: kenny stein on west virginia as a case study for where energy was and where it is going. >> west virginia used to be a huge coal producing state. it has now become a natural gas producing state. they have more resources. this shows off how many of the functions of our policy decisions, those are based on false premises. there was a sense of scarcity, that we were running out of oil and natural gas. investment has opened up new resources and made natural gas a cheap commodity in the united states.

20 years ago when george bush made those comments, it was really expensive. technology developments and investment can generate new revenue sources for the state and new employment. landowners making rents from the energy sources produced on their land. host: that they bring in michael from illinois, democrat. good morning. caller: good morning. in regard to west virginia, certainly the coal jobs are going away. the air quality there is pretty nice. i wanted to say that mr. stein talked about things being an exercise. energy means more than natural gas. in terms of the litigation not

being the people in the community, i think the people in palestine are rallying together and it is inspiring. that is all i had to say. thank you for your hard work and have a great rest of your day. host: mr. stein, do you want to take that one? >> sure. energy is not just oil and gas and i agree. there are a lot of wind and solar projects that are waiting for connections to the grid and waiting for production to get where it is to be used. one of the things that holds up these major transition projects is the review process. when things are approved, it raises the cost and that raises the overall system cost of

electricity. bob mentioned that wind and solar are cheap. it may look chip but you have to include -- it may look cheap but you have to include long-distance cost. wind is absolutely not cheaper. it raises costs. that is why everywhere it has been used, it increases cost. host: let me come back to hr one, the topic of th nvsation. theuildup house republicans -- e bill that house republicans put out this week, we have talked about some tse things. repealing democratsetne, limiting the ability to block projects by using section 401 of the clean water act. what does that mean? >> it means that a state can

block its portion of a transmission line that may be going across multiple states. what we are saying is that if a transmission line is going across multiple states, it is serving the national interest. it should be a national issue that federal injury -- federal energy regulatory commission should have a say over that. host: mr. stein? >> it also applies to pipelines which is why this is part of the discussion. that is why it is interesting that bob said there is nothing he likes but part of the problem is it has been weaponized by state. they say we do not want to allow a different project so we will use the 401 process which is supposed to be about water quality. it has written into law for the states to have a say in their state. it has been weaponized into we

will stop this project because we don't like it. the language is to bring it back to water quality, making clear that if you have 401 disapproval, it has to be because of water impacts. host: do we do that, bob? >> we do not. telling a state that you cannot protect your own water from a pipeline that could low out, explode, damage the aquifers, the clean water that farmers depend on for your occasion, that families depend on for drinking water, we are not on board with that. host: to dayton, ohio. chris on the line for democrats. good morning. caller: good morning. i hurt? national public radio about -- i heard talk on national public radio about a nuclear attack. >> i cannot say that i and

a nuclear physicist. it has been made virtually impossible to build large nuclear power plants. it is mainly a regulatory thing. there is hope that maybe smaller scale reactors will be able to develop a different regulatory process that might be able to advance. that is optimistic. it is an excellent source of energy. it has limited land impacts. nuclear is wonderful if it can be made in a reasonably cost-effective way. i think that is a hope for the future. unfortunately, it is not something that is happening today. host: bob? >> nuclear power is 19% of our energy nationally. the issues are cost. wall street will not finance a nuclear power plant. we had one fail after $9 billion in southern california -- in south

carolina. we saw in georgia the last nuclear facility completed there, way over cost and over budget. some of the most expensive electricity in the history of the world. wall street will not finance it. after 70 years we have still not found a permanent solution to where you store dangerous nuclear waste. there are a lot of issues out there. we have been hearing about these modular nuclear plants for decades. they always seem to be one decade away. we look forward to seeing them and assessing them but they are not there. host: is there nuclear power in georgia? >> correct. the nuclear power plant in georgia cover construction over sealand constitution. but they have been doing is trying to expand and add two new reactors to an existing plant. the issues they are running into are not regulatory. they are construction problems.

it is extensive. it is difficult. we are much better off putting that money into wind and solar power. host: you mentioned your time at the atlanta journal-constitution. we should mention your book, "reckless: the political assault on the environment." how many years have you been at the alliance? >> 13. >> the intersection of politics and policy has been my job for 10 or 15 years now. host: bob mentioned you were born and raised in texas. >> i am originally from houston. host: have your paths crossed before when it comes to policy work? >> we are new friends. we just met this morning in the

studio. host: back to the calls. plenty of friends on the phone lines as well. patrick is an independent. good morning. caller: good morning. i was wondering if either one of your guests know of any research being done in solar collection in space. thank you. host: the next level of solar collection. are we doing it? >> we are focused on what is happening in georgia. q cells is investing $2.5 billion to create 2000 jobs to create solar panels in georgia to help this evolution that is unfolding across the country. wind and solar is providing 14% of our electricity nationwide. that is a good start. that needs to triple by 2030. that is why the investment and

the inflation reduction act are so important because they are making it cheaper and easier for utilities and homeowners to meet these climate targets. what we need from the biden administration is to move forward with some important rules that will help clean up our cars, trucks and dirty power plants. those rules are coming from the epa in april. these next few weeks are very important. the administration needs robust standards in a timely way. host: kenny stein, can we talk modular nuclear power plants? if there is one nuclear technology of the future that you are optimistic about, what would it be? >> this is the problem with forecasting energy policies. you never know what the next big thing is going to be. host: you will make a lot of money if you get it right. >> that is the thing. i would love to see nuclear

cheaper. unfortunately that research and developments will not happen in the united states because the nuclear regulatory commission will not let it happen. south korea, japan and china are doing investments in new ways to build nuclear plants and make them more efficient. we will see if that, ultimately cheap nuclear would be a boom for clean energy. host: this is charles, independent. good morning. caller: good morning. besides the environmental issues, i am sick of oil being a commodity and we are having to rely on countries like russia and saudi arabia and these other countries who have basically got us by the cahones. the whale issue is a joke. just like the birds thing.

do you know how many birds are killed by cats? millions. if you want to see less birds taken away, get rid of the cats. we need to be independent. we need to get off oil. we need to go to an electric grid and we need to do it in america, for america, for americans and forget all of our reliance on china and these other countries. host: your point. kenny stein, how much do we rely on russia and saudi arabia for oil? >> what is interesting is that has changed completely in the last 15 years. we import very little oil from saudi arabia. there is very little from russia but that is because we have increased our own domestic production. we have been turned from a huge importer to a networks border -- into a net exporter.

if we talk about independence come a we have created that oil and natural gas independence and people who want to transition to wind and solar, the manufacturing supply lines for those things run through china. the caller was talking about china. that is where these critical minerals are processed. that is where solar panel modules are built. a transition to renewables is a transition to reliance on china. we have just broken our reliance on places like saudi arabia and venezuela and now we want to throw those away and rely on china. the logic fails me. >> we heard the majority leader say earlier that we need to increase production and that is why we need government legislation. we just heard kenny say production has already

increased. he is right. he needs to have a conversation with the majority leader. here the reality. production has increased 10% since president biden took office. we are producing more oil than any other country in the world. 12.3 million barrels per day. we are exporting 9 million barrels per day. we are hearing all this talk about energy security. we are at 49 million barrels per day. it would almost provide half of our oil needs if that oil stayed in the country. it does not. it goes to other countries around the world. our farmers, our committees get the risk. our foreign friends get the fuel and big oil gets the profits. by the way, big oil had $168 billion in profit last year alone. we are talking about just six companies. exxon, shell, bp.

six companies, 160 $8 billion in profit last year while families are paying the price at the pump. my question is this. how much more are we supposed to sacrifice so this industry can keep rolling in hundreds of billions of dollars of profit every year? are we supposed to sacrifice our water, clean air, our children's future? we are supposed to tell people impacted by projects, do not speak up. you don't have access to the courts. that is what it is all about. host: the next caller is about where west virginia and kentucky meet. bobby, good morning. are you with us? go ahead. caller: i am a former retired coal miner and our local 1440

station in our historic town in west virginia where there was a battle between the coal miners and organized workers. my question, if you give me a moment, we've got about 2800 bridges that have to be replaced in west virginia and across all 50 states, we have thousands of bridges. under the first bill that biden and the republicans that were part of, the infrastructure bill that was voted on and approved, we need to steal these bridges. we need -- we need steel for these bridges. we need guardrails.

i don't hear you guys talking about coal. under the trump administration, the coal mines were just about extinct. they were shutting them down. now that we need this steel for bridges and all that, coal, not natural gas, but coal is the only fuel. and we know it is dirty but it can be cleaned up. money can be appropriated. host: i think we got your question. let me let kenny stein jill in -- jump in. >> the caller is correct. earlier we were talking about getting off of fossil fuels by 2050. it is unrealistic. coal is an integral part of

steelmaking. all of our buildings, everything. steel run through our society. that has to be built with coal. crumbling roads and bridges, that is another reason why it is so important. the infrastructure bill was passed but it was appropriated for building roads and bridges. it does not matter how much money is available if you cannot get approval for the projects, things will not be repaired. >> first of all, thank you bobby. your service in the coal mine is dangerous work, it is hard work. it fired the industrial power of this country for decades. what also powers the country is the american spirit. no free people anywhere are ever stuck with a bad habit that does

more harm than good. we are not stuck with oil, gas and coal and all the damage it does. neither are our children. we can move on. i'm old enough to remember people saying we could not go to the moon. people were banging on horseshoes with model t's going by. host: just about 10 or 15 minutes left. we started by talking about hr 1 , the bill that came out last week. we showed you some othe parts of the bill. i want to come back to sothing. the bill wants to repeal the methane fee that democrats moved through congress. what is that? >> the idea is that the democrats have created a bit of a scare about the alleged methane leaks that happened as part of the oil and gas production process and the transportation process. also in homes, there are always

little leaks. they have created a scare campaign. they use that as a way to impose a tax on these methane emissions . ultimately the consumer pays it. all these companies have to pay the fee but they pass it on in higher natural gas prices. everyone using natural gas to heat their homes or cook their food have to pay higher prices. the ideas that taxing these emissions will somehow reduce some of that leakage and maybe but we have extremely low leakages at this point already. in the worst performing oilfield in the united states in north dakota, over 95% of methane emissions are captured. how much more can you really improve that? you will have higher costs as companies try to reduce emissions.

they will have to pay tax on any emissions they cannot capture and all of the extra costs will be passed to the people. host: in terms of where this came from, was it the inflation reduction act? >> yes. host: we don't know at this point how much taxes, how many fees have been charged. >> it went into effect january of this year. >> kennedy is right -- if kenny is right, nobody will pay for this. maybe it can come out of the $168 billion in profits they made last year. this is why it is important we stop these massive methane emissions. methane is a separate gas that is 85 times more powerful as a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide. it has been identified globally,

not just in this country, asthma those greenhouse gases we really have to go after. here is why that is important. we just got within the hour the latest report from the intergovernmental panel on climate change. this is the last word, the stone cold truth about what is happening to our planet in terms of the climate. here's what it says. we are about to blow past the limit that scientists have told us that we need to avoid catastrophic climate change. if we are going to stop floods that put one third of pakistan underwater, drought that left the cradle of chinese civilization dried up to a trickle in some places last summer, storms, wildfire, if we are going to not confine our children to a future of cascading disasters, we have to cut these greenhouse gas emissions. that includes methane but most of all it includes the carbon pollution from burning coal, oil and gas.

host: this report you are talking about came out about 20 minutes ago when it was released by the national panel on climate change. here is the headline, the climate timebomb is taking. the run is -- the world is running out of time to avoid catastrophe. kenny stein? >> it is always funny when you look at the actual scientific data of these reports. they don't actually support these catastrophic headlines but the media likes to spin things to make it sound exciting. the actual science behind it -- the world is not ending. host: another headline, "humanity is on thin ice, urgent action is needed to combat climate change." >> i know. it is very exciting. >> i'm sorry people feel the need to take a shot at your profession. people in the media are working hard to make this right every day -- working hard to get this right every day. we are going with hundreds of scientists around the world and

what they have told us based on thousands of research. we are going on what we are seeing out of our kitchen windows we are seeing raging storms, wildfires, floods, costing farmers $1 billion in nebraska alone just a couple of years ago with flooding that the people out there had never seen before. the worst drought in 1200 years across the american west sending multi generational farms out of business. we are looking out of our kitchen window. here is what is exciting. we could do something about this. we can strengthen our communities. we could create hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs. we can make our country more energy secure by shifting away from these dirty fuels of the past to the clean energy solutions of the future. >> the perfect example of looking at the underlying science because the storms and the flooding and the drought that bob mentioned, there is either no connection or there is very low confidence that there is any connection between the

minor temperature changes we have seen and these specific weather events that bob is referencing. that is a perfect example of using what you see out your window that actually does not comports with actual science. >> tell that to one of the 8500 people whose homes burned up in the almeda farm in oregon two years ago. tell that to steve who lost all the corn he was going to feed his cattle with an nebraska in the epic floods of 2019. tell that to the u.s. army corps of engineers that is spending $2.6 billion to put a seawall around north virginia to protect the largest navy base in the world from going underwater. this is what is happening now. we are in a crisis. we need to do something about it. 70% of the country knows it. 75% of young people understand it. we are moving forward.

host: short on time and a lot of calls. we can maybe take -- are you ok with that? al is in texas, republican. thanks for waiting. caller: sure, we need to clean up omissions, we need to use solar. but it is just a fraud. petroleum is here and it is here to stay and produces everything. everything is made with petroleum. we need to clean it up but that is the only solution. producing green energy pollutes more. to produce solar, the batteries you need, habitats are being destroyed by people who are

mining lithium and the other elements needed to make electric cars. host: got your point. the status of the green new deal. where all the way -- where are we on that? >> we passed the strongest policy over the next 10 years, creating jobs and innovation. it is important. i want to go do something al was talking about in terms of lithium and solar panels. i spoke to a man recently in oklahoma who has a factory. he is recycling batteries from those chevy bolts. he told me we can get 99% of the critical minerals from the batteries back when we recycle. what people need to understand is recycling these batteries is the key to sustainability going forward. it is going to take a couple of years for this to happen because you need batteries to recycle

and we are finding these batteries are lasting longer than people thought. that is a good thing. they are lasting 15, 20 years. it will take a while but we will be able to recycle these batteries in what is called a closed-loop supply chain. host: kenny stein? >> the recycling is a chimera. you can recycle a lot but it cost a lot. in theory it can be recycled but it cost too much so it ends up in the landfill. getting back to what the caller said, it is a really good point about the scale of minerals and stuff that is required for wind and solar. a lot of people in the united states imagine that wind and solar are perfectly clean and there are no environmental impacts, it is all rainbows. but the concrete that goes in the steel and the critical

minerals and lithium that goes into batteries that goes into the towers for the wind turbines, that has to be manufactured. all of that has to be dug up. it is not happening in this country but that happens around the world and there are a lot of environmental impacts of that. they are not considered part of the discussion unfortunately. host: kentucky, adam, independent. good morning. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. this is right up my alley. bob, you are polished and well seasoned in the debate space. just a couple of questions. number one, could you disclose if you are paid by any type of green sores or any renewable energy company or anyone connected to the renewables? number two, if you could ponder on or give. -- or your listeners the answer to how long it takes to get a

permit to mine? it is about 10 years. minnesota, oregon, they were projects that were going to put critical minerals into the u.s. economy for the development of these renewable sources, lithium in oregon, copper minnesota. both projects were pulled by the biden administration. you have two things, ignorance or hypocrisy or the administration will say i want these things, i want the green energy, i want the renewables but i don't want them in my backyard. we call them nimbies, not in my back yard. people who are willing to drive a tesla and have this in talladega -- have this mentality they are saving the

planet. host: nrdc funding and permitting. >> thanks for asking. absolutely not, we receive no corporate funding. we receive funding from individuals and foundations. that is it. here is the real problem. we don't have a comprehensive policy in this country on critical minerals or minerals of any type. what we have is the mining law of 1872, written in the years after the civil war, that overseas very loosely a very destructive industry that leaves behind toxic waste that is cleaned up at taxpayer expense, if at all. that is the problem. what we need is an actual modern mining policy that starts with a responsible approach to how we deal with natural resources and goes on to use best available

technology and finally incorporates a holistic supply chain vision so that when we are recycling materials and minerals, that goes into the mix as well. host: kenny stein, let me give you the last caller. from new york, john, democrat. good morning. caller: i just want to say that no one has really talked much about hemp which we are trying to push in new york because it can replace a lot of the fossil fuel products we have out here. i work for a producer that can fix all the other problems. bio char, no one is familiar with that. it is the remnants of burning a biomass. we can use hemp. a lot of forests are thick or they have not been sustained over the years. we can create energy from bio char.

we can make these little microgrid stations across the country putting foresters to work. we make solutions out of that that can clean up what the oil and gas industry has left behind. host: we are short on time. kenny stein? >> it is innovative stuff. the problem with some of these biofuels is they have a lot of, they create a lot of co2 emissions. for the folks who want to eliminate co2 emissions, i am not sure they are a solution to anything. when you talk about replacing petroleum, getting a soft oil and natural gas, it is more than just transportation. it is everything we do in life. ending on -- host: ending on hr 1, what happens with this piece of legislation? >> we certainly hope that it

dies a swift death. it is the wrong direction for the country, the economy, our children's future. we can do a lot of things in this country. we can move forward with clean energy. we can move off of these dirty fuels and the destruction they bring. here is what we cannot do. we cannot defund the agencies we rely on. we cannot go to the safeguards we need to protect public health. we cannot do the voices of people on the front lines of environmental hazard and harm. we will not walk in decades more dependence on oil, gas and coal for future generations when we need to move away from them. host: kenny stein, the final minute on hr one and where it is going? >> it will pass the house. it does start the discussion on a lot of these important issues. in the future, eventually republicans will be in the white house and have control of congress. some of the discussions that are

happening, these are the types of things that will come up again in the future when there is an opportunity to pass it into law. host: it is the institute for energy research, kenny stein is the policy director there. bob deans is the strategic engagement director at the national resources defense council. thank you this morning. we will do what we often do at the end of our program, turn the phone lines over to you with open forum. any public policies want to talk about, start calling now. (202) 748-8000, democrats. republicans (202) 748-8001. independent, (202) 748-8002. we will get to your calls after the break. ♪ >> on march 19, 1979 americans for the very first time were able to watch live coverage of the house of representatives on

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you can watch live coverage at 2:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, c-span.org and the free c-span now video app. there is 20 minutes left this morning in "washington journal." we are turning the phone lines over to you. any issue you want to talk about, this is your time to do it. this is your time to lead the discussion. jerry, michigan, you are up first. caller: good morning and greetings from detroit. host: how are things in detroit today? caller: a little chilly right now. pretty soon from what i hear we will be in the 50's soon hopefully. host: the cherry blossoms are out in d.c. it is a good time to be here. what is on your mind? caller: at least two issues, if you don't mind. i would like to try to get them off of that right quick.

first, the possible indictment of the former president and also the conspiracy theories about the attack on the capital. first off, i could not understand for the life of me how some republicans could defend the actions of donald trump given what he has done to try to shift blame to anyone and everyone but him for his actions. it seemed to me that they are totally convinced that he did nothing wrong although he did. i think it is very dangerous for him to call up his supporters to protest given what we have experienced on january 6. as far as the conspiracy theories about the impact -- the attack on the capital, i have

heard so many lies about that day. the lies that these were not trump supporter's, that these were members of antifa, black lives matter, or fbi agents. the lies that trump offered the national guard and nancy pelosi turned it down although she was not in charge of or had any authority over security at the capitol. they try to deny that what happened at the capital had anything to do with donald trump even though he told that mob to be wild and fight like hell. i have been fighting with, at least online anyway, a lot of the internet trolls who want to blame anyone and everyone but donald trump for his actions. they want to blame nancy pelosi. they want to blame maxine waters. they want to blame any prominent democrat. it is pretty much abt, anybody

but trump. host: what do you get out of having those fights online with internet trolls, as you describe them? caller: i feel that somebody has to challenge these folks because they often try to get away with a lot of the conspiracy theories. i feel that no one else is going to challenge these folks. if somebody says that nancy pelosi was in charge of security at the capitol or that police let the rioters in and i know for a fact that these are blatant lies, someone has to challenge them. they have to be confronted. i have heard even on c-span on "washington journal" you hear people on the republican line bringing up conspiracy theories about what is happening at the capital.

like i said, rumors about trump offering the national guard and nancy pelosi turning it down, which to me is a blatant lie. host: that is jerry out of detroit. you are talking as well about potential trump indictment, the former president predicting it could come as soon as tuesday. two headlines on that from today's papers, from the new york times, a porn actress, payoff and trump on the brink. from the washington times, "the gop to take aim at trump prosecutors. a panel is ready to act against the indictment." those stories in the new york times and the washington times. this is george in las vegas, a republican. good morning. caller: good morning. i was left over on the

discussion on energy. one thing i want to bring up is it is great to form alternate energy. we know that is needed. we are being forced into electric vehicles and we are having the ability of choice taken away from us. i cannot believe that we are going to have over one million vehicles sold this year. if that was the case, that would be more than all the power parts sold. i recently looked at two models. i looked at a cadillac. the base price is $63,000. it has a range of 333 miles and it takes 6.25 hours to charge. if we are going on a road trip to a charging station, the minimum cost is $.32 per minute which is $142. the cadillac has a 19 gallic tank with a range of 513 miles

and cost of filling that up of $54. it is the immediate cost that puts it out of the range of most americans. i get a vehicle to get back and forth from work but who will sit there and charge a car for six hours? that makes it difficult to believe that in five years we will be looking at some states outlawing the sale of gas powered vehicles totally, like california. we are having our choices taken away from us. that is the most offensive part of this. host: dennis in las vegas. this is beverly in wyoming, an independent. good morning. caller: hello and good morning. everyone needs to have critical thinking about respect and honor. i heard a man say we should get on her knees for trump -- we

should get on our knees for trump. what for? he is one man. these guys need to know, you get on your knees and kiss butt, it is not the way. let him deal with his own problems and he is bringing in all of the republicans to take care of him. that is not fair because there are some decent republicans and there are some low down people that just want to kiss trump's butt. host: who is a few of the decent republicans? can you name them? caller: liz cheney, adam singer, there are a few of them. the other ones, i don't know because they don't speak out. they need to speak out. host: beverly in wyoming. this is anthony in new york, democrat. good morning. caller: thank you, john.

i appreciate your expertise. like the last caller, so much misinformation. you have such an ill-informed populace. we are like chickens with their heads cut off as far as trying to come to a consensus of truth and reality. i wish that we could go back to the origins of 9/11 which the patriarchs have undermined the constitution. the abuses of power that permeated post-9/11 have been beyond the pale. we really need to start from square one. we see a conflict of interest. with all due honesty, i come from within the sanctum of the air traffic control center and i can tell you point-blank, they stood down intentionally. we had one hour and a half on the first flight that left the tarmac. the pilot that turned the transponder off just as the plane left the runway. it was reported and norad did

not respond. it was only two weeks earlier where we had an incident where a paris sailor got caught on the statue of liberty. we called norad on that morning as well and responded. on 9/11 there was someone who had their finger on the switch within the bush cheney administration. host: we will hold off on the conspiracy theories. this is dominic in georgia, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. first of all, i am glad there are some good republicans. that is not my main reason for calling. i'm calling about energy. two things that really bother me. our biggest problem is consumption. for example, you ride along the hallways -- you ride along the highways and you see these tolls

and advertisements for mcdonald's. they are obscene. that is a big waste. the second thing is all of these plastic toys. they are killing us. we don't need plastic toys. we don't need giant signs. they are just two examples. conservation is the first thing we should be considering when it comes to energy before we think of anything else. we are consuming ourselves to death. we are a bunch of hogs. that is all i have to say. host: texas, john, independent, good morning. caller: good morning. thanks to c-span for all of the work you do. the energy front, a reminder, all fossil fuels are a product of solar energy. it is a fascinating project going on in west texas and colorado.

geologists and engineers are working on geothermal energy which has lithium as a byproduct. as the man says, there are all kinds of options out there and we need to work together and we will survive somehow. as the lady that called, we need to show respect to everybody. keep up the good work. host: less than 10 minutes left in today's "washington journal." if you want to join our open forum, republicans (202) 748-8001. democrats (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. one piece from the opinion pages of usa today to point you toward , that would be senator tammy baldwin's piece. the wisconsin democrat with this headline on her piece, "the bill can provide a lifeline."

the history of wisconsin and abortion, in 1849 wisconsin's legislature banned abortion making it a felony to provide abortion care unless the life of the mother is in danger. it would be 70 years before women could even vote let alone hold office in wisconsin. yet more than 170 years later, the supreme court ripped away the positive snow arrives of millions of americans, denying hundreds of thousands of wisconsinites the right and freedom to control their bodies. she says i alongside leaders are proud to be leading the senate in the introduction of the women's health protection act that would return the decision to have a baby to women and their doctors without interference from politicians, consistent with the law of the land under roe v. wade and what the american people support,

commonsense legislations that states cannot limit access to abortion care and such a limit would jeopardize the life and health of a patient even later into pregnancy. tammy baldwin, her piece in today's "usa today" if you would like to read more. this is wrong in texas, independent. -- this is ron in texas, independent. good morning. caller: good morning. i am looking for a party to vote for. democrats, abortion is a dealbreaker for me. republicans have good points but they seem to be misdirected on a lot of things. as far as the independent party which i would like to be part of, it is probably a contradiction of terms but i would like to see someone unite the independent party to make it more substantial and not just a protest or so on. my prime candidate would be liz cheney for her honesty on

january 6. that is pretty much my idea there. host: that is ron in texas. this is mike in maryland. good morning. caller: hello? host: go ahead. caller: are we talking about abortion or can we talk about power -- host: you could talk about any issue you want. caller: oh, okay. i don't understand the people that believe in god, how they are not on the wind and the solar. god provides us with wind and the sun and he gives us two forms of extremely clean energy. and i don't understand why they

are on the other side with the fossil fuels dirtying up the environment and the air and all of that. it just baffles my mind that we've got the sun and the wind and you could say that it comes from god and it is the two most consistent, cheapest, cleanest energy and it shows up every day, free. nobody has to drill it or anything. you just throw up a windmill and put a panel out and it just absorbs. it just baffles my mind when i hear the people on the

god's side not being on the wind and solar side. host: i got your plate. -- i got your point. caller: good morning, john. i was able to convince them it was too expensive at $2650. i was able to save that. we had another situation with the energy people. you have a population on this earth that is growing and growing. i am 79 years old now and i am watching what these people are trying to accomplish. even the president drives a corvette and we have a nation called a bear and we have no trouble poking at it.

china is on the border with russia. for some reason we have to be dealing with people 5000 miles from us. even the secretary treasury janet yellen supplying ukraine with airplanes, a horrible solution. host: darrell in idaho and china and russia. the chinese president's visit to russia comes after cementing his third term in power from that same washington post story on some of the background, they have a personal affinity built from 39 different meetings they have had together when mr. putin visited beijing before the start of the ukraine war in 2022. their governments proclaimed a

no limit partnership. the two men saw each other again last september at a security conference in uzbekistan. the chinese leader has not talked to the president of ukraine, much less for peace talks. china has mentioned it being open to brokering a peace deal between ukraine and russia. larry is in springfield, ohio, republican. good morning to the buckeye state. caller: good morning. host: what is on your mind? caller: i am 80 years old and i have been around a long time so i have seen a lot of things happen. i have heard theories that started way back about how cold it was going to be. the next thing i know now they are talking about how hot it is going to get and how we are losing all of this water and so forth. it is just one theory after another. it kind of bugs me.

host: larry in ohio. baltimore, maryland, democrat. caller: i appreciate everything you do while maintaining a straight face. no matter what you hear, you are as bipartisan as it gets. host: what is on your mind? caller: it is not a democrat or republican thing. most of the politicians are old and should have aged out a long time ago which is why we should have aged and term limits. every year we have 1.5 million more eligible voters. after they graduate from high school and turn 18, they are eligible to vote. these older politicians are not

representing these people. host: i thought you were done. i apologize. our last caller. we will talk more about those topics in the future, age limits and term limits. that will do it for us on this monday morning. we will be back here tomorrow on tuesday at 7:00 a.m. eastern, 4:00 a.m. pacific. have a great monday. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2023] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> coming up this afternoon, energy secretary jennifer granholm will be joined by mike to want to talk about u.s.

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