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to see the full schedule visit book tv.org. joining us now from capitol hill, representative matt rosendale, republican of montana. thanks for your time today. guest: good morning. thanks for having me on. host: we have seen the unveiling of the debt ceiling plan from speaker mccarthy. what is your expectation if this will pass next week? guest: i think we are just about there, pedro. i think we've got a good plan put together. it is going to do four main things. number one, it is going to fund government responsibly. that has not been done last two years under the. it is going to put caps on the spending. we all believe government is big enough we should not continue to grow it. that is the first thing. the next thing is, it is going to claw back a lot of the irresponsible spending that has been proposed and approved by
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democrats the last two years. we are going to resend the $400 billion of student redistribution program they were trying to push through. we are going to resend the additional funding put forth for out-of-control, new green deal projects, try to force people to use a battery-operated car. which, i can tell you, is not going over really well in montana. we are going to resend the funding for the 87,000 irs agents going out trying to cause problems for our small businesses, which is a lot of farmers and ranchers in montana. the next thing is provide additional money to add to that bucket, to make sure we find government properly, to get us through the next several months. finally, there is a lot of provisions in there to grow the economy. that is what we must do if we are ever going to truly address
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the national debt we are facing right now. at $31.6 trillion, the american people and the american economy just cannot continue to support that amount of debt. we cannot do it. we will start having problems with medicare and social security if we do not address that. we have got provisions like hr one that is going to expand our domestic energy production. it is going to streamline the process with which we can build pipelines and export facilities for natural gas to help our allies overseas. it is going to also make sure we streamline the process to mine our critical minerals domestically instead of relying upon our adversaries overseas. host: you said you were just about there. there is reporting several republicans still not on board. nancy mace being one of those, others as well. is there potential the vote could fall short? guest: i think we are going to
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get a package over to the senate to responsibly fund government very soon. then, it is in the senate's lap to see if they want to politics with it or whether they can work for the american people. host: as far as the deal itself, if it does not get to the senate and it fails in the senate, what is the ultimate plan besides going back to the default date? guest: the house of representatives is going to have to be the adults in the room. we are going to send a package to the senate to make sure we, once again, responsibly fund government and that it is going to be up to them to determine whether they want to play politics or do what is right for the american people. host: a package the senate would approve, specifically. guest: i think they should. then, you're going to have have conversations with chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell to see if they actually will. host: our guest with us until 9:10. call us at (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 fior democrats --
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for democrats. independents, (202) 748-8002. you can text us at (202) 748-8003. the house minority leader has things to say about this package introduced. i want to play it and see your response. [video clip] >> of course we were willing to have a conversation about what future spending and investments in the house, safety and economic well-being of the american people should be. the process to do that is the budget process and the appropriations process. by the way, extreme maga republicans temporarily hold the majority. they control the process. so, it is unclear to me why we are still waiting for republicans to put their budget into the public domain. not talking points, not speeches, a budget. once they have a budget, i think
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we are all willing to sit down and have a conversation about spending priorities that makes sense for the american people. host: representative rosendale, what do you think of those comments? guest: the democrats want nothing more than to see a budget, it is nothing more than a wish list. while it is important to allow the american people to see where you are going, what really matters is legislation. we have put forward hr one, the most important piece of legislation that america needs to address this congress, which is to increase our domestic energy production. it is to make sure we get our economy strong. it is to make sure our national security is strong. by reducing the cost of energy, what we will do is tackle these out-of-control -- this out of control inflation democrats have been fueling the last two years. that is nothing more than talking points. legislation is what is governed. what you are going to see is the
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solution to our debt ceiling that be sent over the to the senate very soon. then, we are going to tackle the appropriation bills. the appropriation bills themselves are truly direct spending, not the budget. the budget is merely the wish list. the appropriation bills, which will be 12 bills that actually break down what the cost of government is and where we are going to spend money to fund it. that is the second part that will be followed up soon. host: representative max rosendale. your first collar is from texas, independent line. you are on with our guest, robert. go ahead. caller: to your guest, you do believe in the constitution, correct? guest: absolutely. swore an oath -- >> you all there in congress swore an oath to protect and defend that constitution, did you not? guest: absolutely, robert.
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caller: ok. let's get down to what the actual articles are in that constitution about congress, their purpose, their number one purpose is to have -- to pass a budget, enact the laws that govern the money that is spent in this country. that is their primary goal, their primary purpose stated out in the constitution. i do not think this whole thing about raising the debt every six months, every eight months, using it as a political tool makes any sense at all if the people in congress cannot fulfill their duty to pass a budget. that budget should be something that, if they fail to do that, their pay is eliminated until
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which time they get a budget passed. host: robert in texas, thanks for the call. guest: i appreciate robert's call. i had been a strong supporter of the balanced budget a minute united states constitution for any years. that is not just the talking point that it's come around for many folks the last five to 10 years. i can go all the way back to the time when i was 20 years of age in 1980. i think it is critically important. right now what i am responsible for is making sure we pay the debts that previous congresses have already generated and looking forward to make sure the debt is reduced as much as i possibly can. i am trying to take the pieces we have right now and put this mess back together. we are trying to cure the sins of previous congresses. that is why i like the things we have been able to put together in this debt ceiling proposal that is going to go to the
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senate. we are going to address right now the additional spending, claw that back, take those funds and put it into the bucket to support the treasury. looking forward, we are going to freeze those expenditures so they are going to have a ceiling on them. i think we've got the best of both worlds we can expect right now. host: in michigan, this is from brent, democrats line. good morning. caller: good morning. representative mays on c-span several days ago had the audacity to say the only presidents to have submitted a balanced budget were nixon and clinton. i suppose the republicans probably have some reprimands like they did for liz cheney for her audacity to say that. anyways, cutting spending and lower taxes, that is the republican mind trickle going back to reagan, who never submitted a single allen's
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budget. tax cuts are comparable to a person unable to pay bills, asking their employer to cut my pay. one thing for sure, smart people do not pay their taxes because donald trump told us so. we elected him president and we know he is a stable genius because he told us that, also. host: do you have a direct question for our guest? caller: a direct question? republicans play these shenanigans. a democrat is in the white house. they never challenged -- never tried to use these tactics when trump was there. host: ok. that is brent in michigan. guest: what i will tell you is, we continue to hear about the budget. there have been so many budgets proposed by every congress that has come before may. quite frankly, they are nothing more then plans that people would like to have lament. what we are responsible for,
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what we have control over each congress is, what takes place during our congress. we cannot guarantee the result of future congresses. that is why budgets that are balanced out that are five or 10 years do not really carry that much impact. they just do not. what is important are the 12 appropriation bills that will be presented this summer, that congress has not done for many years now to say, this is exactly what we are going to fund in government. this is the level with which we are going to fund them at. then, we are going to send those bills to the senate. that is what counts. i will also tell you and the listeners need to remind themselves of this, lower taxes stimulate the economy without devaluing the dollar. that is critically important. while the democrats have tried to argue against this for quite some time, every time we see the
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taxes are reduced, we see revenues get increased for the federal government. when the tax cuts and jobs act were passed, what we saw is the revenue from the federal government in 2019 was at $4 trillion. now, we are going to receive probably in the neighborhood of $5 trillion, a nearly $1 trillion a year increase of revenue coming into the federal government. that is not our problem. our problem is, the current biden administration has proposed $6.8 trillion in spending, which is a void of anyone's -- $1.8 trillion a year immediately going towards the federal deficit. meanwhile in 2019, while we were collecting $4 trillion of revenue, the expenditures for the federal government were $5.14 trillion. we were still running a deficit, but now we have increased the
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revenue to nearly equal what the government costs were in 2019. that is why congress is right now taking a two-pronged approach and saying, we are going to freeze spending in 22 levels and going to start allocating revenue at much closer levels to where the revenue stream coming in is at. host: there is a story in the washington times this morning, it makes the case in this process for the debt ceiling it says this. leadership set to circumvent the committee process on the proposal to slash spending the legislation to be assembled in the house rules committee rather than the appropriations are budget panels. this goes back to the idea of following regular order when it comes to these processes. guest: i am a big fan of regular order. in january of this year, i got together with colleagues and we fought hard to make sure we
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could restore regular order to the house floor to make sure we could have single subject legislation -- we would have 72 hours to review the legislation. we have done much of that. you are going to see, again, this is a piece of legislation that is not going to fund all levels of government. it -- the 12 appropriations bills are going through regular order, that is where everyone will have the ability to give their input to propose amendments and say they want to increase or reduce the levels of funding for government that we are going to see the next 18 months. host: let's hear from chuck, republican line from florida. caller: hey there, how are you doing? thanks for letting me get on here. i've got a couple of questions. first, i want to state that i have been a lifelong republican. i have misused credit cards all my life. i am now 64. i am retired and still have got
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all this debt that i am having trouble paying off now. it is really responsible. everything, the democrats are doing, to run our debt up. of course, i do not have six point trillion dollars in debt i am trying to add to myself. i'm trying to rein in the reckless spending i have done throughout my life. i guess my question to the guest is, do you agree people that recklessly spend not only like myself or the people in congress are kind of ruining this country? trying to make us actually broke? host: thanks, chuck. guest: i appreciate that question. i do not know if they are trying to make us broke. what i have to deal with is the byproduct of that. that is why we have got to reduce his spending. there is a lot of people who run for office that campaign on the
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fact they want to fix congress, congress is broke, they want to reduce spending. when they get here, they do not take the steps that are necessary. they are tough steps, they are necessary to do so. i am trying to do that. we are not going to be able to accomplish that all in one year. that is why we proposed this plan, to freespending at these levels, to start clawing back some of this reckless spending you are talking about and make sure those funds go back into the bucket to pay our current wills. then, we have to make sure we support legislation. it is not just hr one, which is to get our energy and our mining industries back to speed, to help our national security. also, there is another provision called the rains act. that is to make sure as different regulations are proposed by the executive -- it
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does not matter whether it is a republican or democrat president, these regulations start getting proposed, congress has the ability to review them and resend them immediately if they are going to have a large, financial impact on the businesses which then translate into higher costs for people across the nation. i think the spending that people have conducted means to be responsibly taken care of by those very individuals. host: in colorado, max, independent line. caller: hi, good morning, c-span. i have a comment and i have a question for our guest. first of all, i heard you blame biden for the debt that you are trying to keep from happening. when trump was in office, your leader -- you were not complaining when he was driving up the debt more than any other president in our past, when he
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was giving rich people, the corporations tax cuts. i wish you could square that up, because we are still dealing with that too. i have a comment about that. my real question has to do with something about another comment you made earlier. certain democrats are playing -- want to play politics with the budget this year. i cannot think of anything more political then, look at our budget to the safety of our economy -- in fact, i would call out political terrorism. you know as much as anybody, how much it will hurt everyone if you let that debt limit by and we cannot pay our debts. i wish you would comment on how you think you would help us after you let the debt limit not get raised. thanks. host: max in colorado. guest: when i will tell you is
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republicans and democrats alike have been responsible for this debt. let's clear that up right now. it has been nonpartisan overspending. i agree with that. that is why i am doing my job to represent the people of montana and across this nation to rein that spending in. it is around $31.6 trillion did not happen around one admits ration. we have to do something about changing the trajectory of our spending. the other thing is, what i said is not the democrats are playing politics. we are going to send this over to the senate. we will see if the it is going to address a lot of the problems the debt ceiling does not. we do not exceed the debt ceiling. it is going to be up to the united states senate to make sure they pay us back and bring it back to us. host: when it comes of these
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document leaks out of the pentagon, would you expect the house to do in look to the matters? i want to make clear i will not support any additional legislation that is going to expand their abilities for the federal government to conduct surveillance on american citizens. i'm tired every time there is an elite -- leak of information from the federal government, the first place they look to the citizens of our country to try and increase the amount of surveillance they conduct on that. the federal government needs to get their house in order and make sure they have proper cyber security measures in place and other security measures in place so they can protect their own documents. i'm concerned with when this information was leaked out what we found out immediately was we had military special forces on the ground in ukraine. as a member of congress, that was never approved.
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i do not know where the executive -- president biden it feels he can start putting's military forces on the ground -- he can start putting military forces on the ground without approval from congress. you have -- we have written a letter to demand information of how many troops are over there, why are they doing, how long have they been there, are they conducting any type of war activities, are they training. host: the white house said it was for security and training. press secretary saint yesterday saying it was not new news -- saying yesterday it was not new news. guest: it is absolutely false. we want to and verified information about exactly what is going on with the troops, are there any plans to increase the number of troops that are going to be set there? americans people need to know and congress needs to know this and it is not been authorized. host: chuck in florida on the
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democrats line, go ahead. caller: two trucks from ford in the same day. you keep saying you are worried about the deficit, while so i my but let's face it the only two presidents -- so am i but let's face it the only two presidents, started this crop was democrats. that says a lot. if you want to stop the increase, do it when you have a republican president because it seems like it only matters when we have a democratic president. another thing i want to thank you guys for working on this. when you going to get around to saudi arabia? thank you. guest: i would like to say
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everyone continues to try an essay is a republican versus democrat's -- try and say it trs a republican versus democrats. there is to much spending under all administrations. i'm here now and i'm trying to rein it in. they talk about tax cuts for the wealthy but they fell to acknowledge the revenue has gone up from $4 trillion to $5 trillion a year. since the tax cuts and job at. it does work and there is more tax reduction for people across the nation and we more people increasing their income and reaching the middle class that have been demonstrated in decades. bipartisan manner, we have increased spending, it is my job to rein it in and change trajectory right now. host: from ohio, republican line.
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caller: i really appreciate what you are saying, the energy sector and trying to bring energy back. i'm a believer that we can never have effective manufacturing base without cheap abundant, energy and i'm worried about we try to turn the corners, how esg in the marketplace and the stock market and other investment areas are trying to make it impossible for us to have the same free energy situation we have had in previous years. what can congress do to push that esg factor outside of our energy base? guest: i appreciate that question. the environmental social government guidelines that some financial institutions are starting to implement. fcc is trying to force upon them.
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i think the sec needs to say in their lane as we say. they should be making sure that the investments and information given to the investors are true and accurate and should not be dictating where it goes to. stockholders across this country need to start holding their boards accountable whether it is for bei requirements or -- dei requirements or esg requirements. you're supposed to try and make sure you increase the of this company regardless of what it is and not be looking at social governance types of criteria before they make investments. i am concerned about the impact it is having on our energy development communities. i got a large footprint for energy development in montana. we have oil, gas. a lot of these resources and i've been talking to the people -- what we see our independent drillers are the ones that go out and do the most discovery.
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they do the primary work to try to identify where these resources are available and yesterday identify whether resources are available and they can get a large claim together, that's when it ends up being turned over to a larger, more known energy companies. we are down nearly 2 billion barrels a day of crude oil production here in domestically and when i talk to those producers and they say they used to be able to choose from about 12 or 15 different investors to provide capital because it costs a lot of money to drill a well and now they are down to about three. what they are doing, this administration and quite frankly, radical environmentalists are trying to choke off the capital that is necessary for us to develop our energy and that is very dangerous.
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not just talking about manufacturing and the economy. we are talking about national security and how it impacts us. host: are you going to run for senate? guest: we have a lot of time to figure out when jon tester is going to be replaced. he will be replaced. he does not represent the people of montana. over the next 12 months they'll make a decision about who they want to replace him. host: as far as your own interest in the position? guest: i've always said that all i want to do is serve the people where to be the most effective for them. i am going to do my job here is kitty congress -- in the congress until i do something different. host: donna, republican line. your own with representative rosendale. caller: good morning. i think biden the spent money like a drunken sailor and i
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notice he panders to a lot of different groups in the country. he hands out money and i just read that green climate fund will be $1 billion richer from thursday after president joe biden gives it a cash donation courtesy of u.s. taxpayers. he can just write and give money away like he wants? guest: i think -- i would like to say it is me to say they are spending money like a drunken sailors because drunken sailors spend their own money and unfortunately information -- the administration has been spending other people's money. it is one of the reasons we are calling back a lot of these new greendale provisions because they are nothing more than propping up industries that otherwise would not be able to support themselves under the current economic factors. we need to allow industry to
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develop. we need to allow industry to innovate and to determine what is the best way to produce the energy that the nation demands. i'm a firm believer in the marketplace, identifying these areas, and trying to pursue it. host: we are having a discussion with residents of rosendale joining us for this discus >> c-span's washington journal everyday we are taking your call live on the air on the news of the day and we will discuss policy issues that impact you. coming up saturday morning, republican reporter justin elliott -- pro public of reporter justin elliott discusses his new article. and then in our spotlight on podcast segment, discussion on
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