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power in the system. i think this will be a great benefit on the one problem over a particularly. -- on the one bravo array particularly. >> you can tune into the spacewalk friday, it will begin are covered at 6:45 a.m. central time with the spacewalk itself plan to start at 8:15 am. you can watch that on nasa.gov.live and we will see you then. >> coming up, jack reed talks about the defense department priorities including challenges posed by china and support for ukraine. live coverage going underway momentarily on -- coming underway momentarily on c-span. joining us is daniella diaz. one thing that "politico" does every morning is put out a "politico" huddle.
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what is that? guest: everything you need to know in washington. it's a must-read. all of the beltway, specifically with what is going on on capitol hill. host: this morning, the speaker -- set up this for us. guest: we are expecting the biggest week in washington, mccarthy's biggest hurdle since he became speaker in genuine, him trying to pass a huge package through the house that what address the debt limit for the next year. lots of things that would cap spending limits. it would either raise it for a year or until it reaches $39.2 trillion. and not even regarding that, he has to get all his republicans behind this. he only has four votes he can
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lose in the house. and we are not expecting any democrats to support this. we are watching his negotiations with his conference to see if he can get it over the finish line. host: were they working through the weekend to get those votes? guest: absolutely. we know that they were meeting on certain things. they want to address the reduction act, take out tax credits, and they also are addressing work requirements for anybody who qualifies prayer medicaid or any benefits. these are things they want to address in the package. and we cannot talk about this without really talking about the fact that this will not pass the senate, because it is a democratic led senate with 51-49. so, regardless of what they pass in the house, mccarthy will have to negotiate with chuck schumer and president joe biden.
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but the goal is to get it over the hurdle. host: he was still upbeat yesterday about what he expects going on this week. let's play what he had to say. [video clip] >> i cannot imagine somebody in our conference that would want to go along with the joe biden's reckless spending. everybody has had input in this. it is not like everybody gets 100% of what they want, but if we send this to the senate we are showing we can raise the debt ceiling into the next year, but we are being responsible fiscally in bringing the house back in order. it gets us on the right path. this gets us to the negotiating table just as government and america expects us to do. >> do you feel that you can hold the vote this upcoming week? >> we will pass it and we will send it to the senate. host: there is the confidence factor from speaker mccarthy, but in reality there's some who
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could be holdouts. guest: yes, there is a group of really conservative members, the thomas massies, the net gain -- this is the group i am talking about. they want stronger work requirements, stricter enforcement for benefits, they want it included in the proposal so we will watch whether he can reach negotiations with those members. host: have they telegraphed anything of where they are? guest: there is a small group that's not sure where they are. i'm speaking specifically of a member, he's said he does not know where he is. another one is tony gonzales, he is holding up a separate set of bills on border security. and the debt limit proposal. he said if the other set of bills to address border security
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does not include a legal immigration provisions that he wants in the legislation that is currently being taken up by the house judiciary committee, he will not vote for the debt proposal. he's been meeting with mccarthy, so mccarthy is trying to get to them, but he only has a four vote margin. and i, it could pass the house, but they will continue negotiating. host: if you want to ask daniella diaz about the debt ceiling or other matters, you can call us at 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. 202-748-8002 for independents. you can text us at 202-748-8003. on the senate side, you saw a little bit of support from joe manchin. but as far as democrats are
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concerned on the senate cycling no support for what is coming out of the house? guest: joe manchin has been calling on president joe biden to negotiate with mccarthy, but he will not get it over the finish line alone. they will need 60 votes in the senate to pass it. they do not have that. mccarthy is saying -- excuse me, chuck schumer says he wants to negotiate but he is leaving it to the president to do that. they only had one meeting in january. mccarthy has been calling joe biden to come to the table but the president is waiting. host: there is nervousness, either from republicans about democrats? guest: everybody is worried. they know they cannot let the debt go into default. they need to pay back their bills and not let that happen. everybody is nervous. all the lawmakers. they want to do something, but
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the republicans and democrats do not want other things to raise the debt limit. they do not think it has to have additional provisions and republicans disagree. host: that is the sentiment from senator klobuchar. let me play what she had to say. [video clip] host: we will play amy klobuchar in a moment. the white house is hesitant, the houses hesitant, so remind us as far as the timeline when something has to be done. guest: the nation will go into default between july and september, so as soon as july something needs to happen with congress to address the debt limit, that is why they are moving on this. mccarthy wants to get it done now. he knows it will be a long process to get through the senate, possibly come back to the house for another vote, then have the president signed legislation.
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this will not be something that happens in a month. it will probably go until july. host: this is george in kentucky on the democrats line. you are speaking with daniella diaz, a reporter from "politic " ." caller: good morning. this -- what i see is a complete -- i see this thing as a complete sham. they are completely disingenuous. they've done this since 1960 on. the gop house reps, senders and presidents have all outspent their democratic counterparts by a dramatic amount. the annual budget deficit and the overall national debt has increased dramatically more under the gop leadership than the democratic party. but they started hauling in a
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social -- holding any social spending whatsoever, everything, hostage to the debt ceiling in 2012. i think that newt gingrich's ideology was behind this. they have been against public sector funding for anything for a long, long time. and when you listen to the gop it is like, joe mccarthy is running the party line but doesn't have a problem with corporate welfare and they have no problem whatsoever with the pentagon, which has trillions upon trillions it cannot account for. host: thanks. guest: i think that that is interesting what george said. we are hearing what george is saying and democrats are saying this. they are ugly they cannot hold social spending programs hostage to address the debt. it would be a catastrophe if we do not pay our debt back.
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what i am hearing from george is what democrats are saying and their arguments in these negotiations, it we will continue hearing that. but there is a good new york times piece i read a couple weeks ago about who raised the debt limit more for who has spent more, republicans or democrats? the study found it was equal for both. both republicans and democrats in the white house and in congress have spent more money, raised the debt limit, so it has been a mutual problem -- they have both contributed to the problem. host: the pentagon budget, if you hold back certain spending that means the pentagon too? guest: conservative republicans it seemed to be ok with some cuts in the pentagon, not over all. but they want to look into what the pentagon is spending.
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a study like that. but for the most part it is social spending they want to cut back on, or have work requirements included in social spending, so make it stricter for people to get. they want to look at that. and they want a reduction. there's tax credits i mentioned that they want to address. host: on the independent line from baltimore, zach. hello. caller: i thought the previous caller made great place about our pentagon budget. i think it is not just republicans, but democrats, that continued authorizing the military budgets and i do not understand how they could be holding the debt limits if they continue to hold hostage these budgets. guest: we have to get you guys on capitol hill to talk about these things because you are making great points. there are democrats on these powerful committees, armed services, that are also
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authorizing the pentagon budget to be raised. some progressive democrats, however, are very much against it. i'm talking about bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, and others, they are against it. there's some on the committees that are raising these limits. host: why not appropriations as another avenue? guest: for those at home, basically what you are saying is they are skipping a step. it's faster. it they do not have to mark up this bill in committee, marking it up means other people get a say as two it goes in the legislation, but they want to fast-track the process, get it through the house. the house normally is not in on fridays but it will be in this friday, so they have until friday to pass the legislation. we expect the rules committee meeting to be tomorrow afternoon so they are moving quickly.
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host: the reason i say that is because speaker mccarthy and others said when they took the office it would be the regular thing to move their the appropriate committees to get legislation passed. guest: i'm slightly. what i -- absolutely. what i have found is lawmakers tend to say that they want to change when they get to leadership positions. this is a question that was brought up to mccarthy,'s answer being we need to move this forward. host: let's go to our republican line, where brock is in new jersey. hello. caller: hi, i have tons of questions in a do not have a a lot of time. congress looks like they are doing right now, but none of these people on either side know what they are doing. they are talking about spending money. we need -- we make money on taxing our people. that is the problem. we are not making nothing.
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i do not know how you expect to keep saving -- spending money when we are not making nothing. we need more entrepreneurs. you need to talk about how we are going to make stuff and sell stuff. stop taxing the people, you are taxing them poor. you are selling land it to all these other entities. that is a problem. our kids are failing in school. nobody cares about that. there is fentanyl and our communities. people have trauma. and you are talking about spending more money on what? there's towards popping up every five seconds. and it's like a firefighter who have to go to this house, then that house, and we do not have the time. we need to move faster because things are moving fast and we need to be prepared. host: ok. brock, thanks. guest: the points he is making is something like marjorie taylor greene is saying to my
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where we addressing what is happening outside the u.s. when we need to fix what is happening in the u.s.? we are hearing this. there are lawmakers trying to address this. i mentioned the house freedom caucus. they are the ones about want work requirements for social spending. they are also really fighting for cutting taxes. they are the ones fighting for the spending problems, addressing the spending problems in congress. but there was a case to be made earlier this year when mccarthy took the speakership, he wanted a budget, he wanted a balanced-budget. he want to negotiations with democrats on this. so, we do not know where that landed. but he has been asking for a budget. every week, they are asking, where is the budget? when should we expect this? host: he insists on keeping those things separate, so what
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is the justification on his part? guest: we have to move on the debt ceiling, that is his argument. because the budget will take longer. it will take so much negotiation. at the democrats will have to weigh in. the debt ceiling is something they have to deal with immediately. host: the irs is strict in the you of the proposal. what does this building? -- bill do? guest: it is similar to what was passed earlier this year that will take funding away from the irs, to be able to really afford taxing people, especially richer people in the u.s. who might be getting away with paying lower taxes. they have a proposal to cut back on that, 87,000 -- uh, irs agents that were hired -- they want to roll that back.
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and if that passes, if they pass it on party lines, they want it in negotiations to remind democrats of -- host: this was part of the plan to pay for these programs. guest: absolutely. they also want to rollback spending that has not been viewed yet in the inflation reduction act. they want to save that money and put it into other things. host: this is from bernie in new york. hi. caller: good morning. i agree that the debt ceiling should be raised. that's a given. but what i am more interested in is a survey of the american people that's been broadcast by certain media indicating that 70% of the electorate does not want him to run. they should follow that up.
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if he does run, will they choose him? i am one of those that do not want him to run. i do not believe it is a good idea. but if he runs, given what's in front of us on the other side, it's and no-brainer. -- a no-brainer. i'm voting for him. he's too old. because on the other side it is maga. guest: he summed up the problem that democrats are facing pretty well. we've spoken to a number of centrist democrats who would prefer somebody younger and more diverse to run for the seat. president joe biden is 80 years old. he's served his term. there was talking may not serve again. that appears to not be the case.
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he'll announces reelection this week. -- announce's reelection this week. but there is a group of democrats who do not want him to run but if he runs, they are voting for him. that's the issue right now going on in the democratic party, who can keep the white house -- they want another democrat in the white house. they know that biden can trying to be donald trump again. host: some on the republican side are already keeping track of what is coming from democrats. and some have not made the endorsement yet. on the democratic side, are their people are saying if he is in, he is in? guest: yes, i have spoken to a number of democrats, asking if they will endorse him, if they are supporting his nomination. king philip said i would prefer somebody younger, more diverse.
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elizabeth hawkins -- they would like to see a more diverse candidate, but i was shocked at would support joe biden if he runs again. host: we just passed the 100 day mark of the house being led by republicans, however democrats doing in response to that? i know they want to take over the house. guest: they are learning how to be in the minority. they are figuring out what it means to not have the floor. there's members of congress, i remind myself of this, who have never been in the minority. so, we are seeing that -- we have seen in the past few months. what i have seen from jeffrey's is messaging, figuring out what to tell the american people to win back the majority in the house. so, reduce the margin republicans have.
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democrats are optimistic they can take back the majority in the house. they have been focusing on hot issues that are motivating voters, like abortion, like climate change. that kind of messaging we are seeing and they are getting louder on it, knowing it is motivating the base. host: daniella diaz serves as a congressional reporter from "politico." if you have a question for her, 202-748-8000 for democrats. 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8002 for independents. our next caller. caller: is this conversation about anything? host: anything about congress. caller: i have found out that republicans are interrupting and cutting people off that are democrat and violating free speech. it's happening all the time, every day -- ted cruz, josh
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hartley, they will not let people speak to her democrat. -- who are democrat in the house. host: anything specific in mind? caller: i feel like it is a violation of people's right to free speech. and fox news does it all the time. they are constantly cutting off democrats. they are not allowing them to speak. host: ok, richard in massachusetts. guest: i will say if you have ever covered the house or senate floor, there is a lot of arguing. and on fox news and other cable networks, i cannot speak to that, but i can say that is how the game is played. politics is a game depending on who you ask, it is about who has their moment and who gets to speak out. they interrupt each other. decorum is what they want on the floor, but you saw it during the
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speaker's race. host: marjorie taylor greene was told she will not be able to address a certain meeting anymore, can you expand on that? guest: she has spoken out on that. we saw that during that border hearing -- sorry, the homeland security hearing, she was speaking out and she was told she was not following decorum. and i have found with the younger lawmakers, who are more about live-streaming -- there was one time we were trying to change lauren boebert in the hallway and she said, watch my livestream. this is what we are seeing from the lawmakers. and we will continue to see more of that. host: let's focus on dianne feinstein. a lot of attention paid to her and her health, and what is happening as far as work being done in the senate. can you give an update on where she is? guest: my colleagues actually
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broke the news that there was talk she was not doing well, and as of now she does not have a return date to washington. that's huge considering she sits on one of the most powerful committees. she sits on the senate judiciary committee. they pass judge nominations, but because it is 51-49 in the senate, they need her vote to get things over the finish line and her absence is being felt. i found it interesting, they chairman of the judiciary committee, dick durbin, was aske d yesterday by meet the press, where -- if he had spoken to her, how she was doing. he said he had not spoken to her. it's only been chuck schumer that has spoken to her recently, so we do not know how she is doing right now. she will not resign. she asked fo
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>> he is getting treatment for clinical depression, we do not talk to him in the hallways because as it has been reported he needs closed captions to understand what he cannot decipher after he had a really horrible stroke during the campaign. he does have some sort of issues with normal communication
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without closed captions. trying to be sensitive to this of course. we try to shout questions at him in the hallways but it is difficult without the closed caption system. he is voting and he seems a great. he was excited to be back on capitol hill last week and gave the thumbs up, and then the pullover and we are seeing him in, so far it seems like he is back for good. let us hear from caller: it is more of a comet to the good people of all -- a comment to good people of all colors, that joe biden's president z, three fourths of it has been cleaning up their horrendous mess of donald trump
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and the republicans. around the world, not just in the united states but around the world and if mccarthy would not have been castrated in his -- and some of these other senators , republican senators that believed in the big lie, which we now know never happened. all over the country, the electorates, this country would not be in the sewer. host: you talk about how this is a real test for him. how is that coming forward with the police -- dealings with the
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factions? caller: he is negotiating with these different factions of this party to make sure he can please what all of them want to see but the most powerful section of the mall is the conservatives -- of them all, is the conservatives that were a hold up that he has to have a concession to. the members who, it is these very conservative members who are donald trump aligned, very much involved like a matt gaetz type of member. they have a lot of power in these negotiation's and that is why we are saying they are getting what they want with this -- with the settlement proposal because that is 20 or so votes that he needs. my khaki thought they would take back the majority in november -- maccarthy. that they would take back the majority in november.

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