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i believe this is an agreement in principle that is worthy of the american people. ♪ president biden and house speaker kevin mccarthy came to a late night agreement to raise the debt ceiling and cut federal spending. the agreement would raise the debt ceiling for two years putting it out of play for next year's election season and cap nondefense spending and expand work requirements for aid programs. the deal is only between mccarthy and biden. each have to convince republicans and democrats to accept it before the nation runs out of money june 5. our question for you, what do you think about president biden and speaker mccarthy reach debt ceiling agreement? we open up the regular lines. democrats, 202-748-8000.
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republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. you can text us at 202-748-8003. we are always reading social media and facebook and facebook.com/c-span and twitter @cspanwj and follow us on instagram @cspanwj. president biden house speaker mccarthy came to a late night agreement. on raising the debt ceiling and capping federal spending. rollcall has a story that is going to talk about what is in the story -- the deal. house gop leaders reach a tentative deal with president biden saturday night to lift the debt ceiling.
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could avoid economic crisis if congress passes it next week. details have not been made public we're starting -- it is described as sources familiar the nation's borrowing cap would be suspended until january 1 2025 avoiding another market rally during election year. we have come to an agreement in principle. speaker mccarthy announced we still have a lot of work to do but i believe the agreement is worthy of the american people. we brought you mccarthy comments at the top of the show but we want to bring you his full comments he made after reaching the agreement. [video clip] >> i just got off of the phone with the president. after weeks of negotiations, we have come to an agreement in principle. we have work to do but i believe
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it is an agreement that is worthy of the american people. it has a reductions in spending. consequential reforms and will lift people out of poverty into the workforce, rein in government overreach, no new taxes, no new government programs. we have more work to do tonight to finish all of the writing of it. i want to take a moment to think garrett and patrick mchenry were there work on this in the work we are going to continue to do tonight. i know you have questions. i'm not taking them tonight. i want to brief our members about where we currently are. i expect to finish the writing of the bill, checking with the white house, speaking to the president again tomorrow afternoon, and then posting the text of it tomorrow, then voting on it on wednesday. thank you for your time. i think this is worthy of the
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american public. host: 21 of the authors of the story in roll call -- we are going to talk to one of the story in roll call. aidan, good morning. guest: thank you for having me. host: before we get to what is in the agreement, tell us about how biden and mccarthy caps off the negotiation session. how did they come to agreement? guest: it is a lengthy conversation. maybe not lengthy. biden had been refusing to negotiate on the debt limit up until a few weeks ago when negotiators are the white house and republican caucus sat down and talk. the past week has been essentially nonstop negotiations.
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occasional pause trickled ins were under the time -- but both sides were under the exit date. treasurey yellen updated for it to be june 5. it was clear we were approaching a potential default of the debt if it was not moving. host: gives the top line on the agreement. what are the major points biden and mccarthy have agreed to and they're going to ask the members to vote on? guest: the biggest piece is the spending agreement. we are still waiting for additional information about what exactly is in the bill. the seat when the text comes out, but the white house is saying this takes the president budget requests for defense and veterans, which is they are happy with, they are saying
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nondefense discretionary spending is roughly flat. house republicans are saying that spending is being cut significantly down to the fiscal 2022 levels, the previous fiscal year. we'll have to wait in the text/-- we will have to wait and see the text. there are six years laid out but only the first two are poseable so the presidential election of 2024 and new congress have to make spending decisions after the initial years of cap. this a variety of other issues addressed in the legislation including calling back billions in covid funding, cutting funding of the irs established in a bill last year, increasing
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the age for work requirements for snap and other benefits, some changes to ending the pandemic era student loan deposit. the biden administration had been has been keeping in place. now is either side portraying this as a win or are they both saying, well, this is the best we can do right now? house republicans, speaker mccarthy seemed pretty happy with this deal. president biden and the democrats are stressing that it's a compromise and you have to govern. i will point out that there are house freedom caucus conservatives who really do not like what they are seeing out of this deal and are vowing to fight it in the house this upcoming week. when when we start moving forward. that was going to be my very next question. what is speaker mccarthy doing to get those conserved lives who have already said they hate
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this, be this this agreement? what is he doing to get them on his side or is he having to turn to house democrats to get this bill through? so any time there's a major compromise agreement like this, it often does require support from both parties. so i'm definitely expecting that because they will need democrats to get on board with this. but i it does seem like since biden is behind this, he will be able to get some democratic support. i would say that it it looks extremely unlikely that many of these house freedom caucus members who are already slamming this deal would back it, even though i'm sure that the republican whip team will make an effort to talk to them. it's very likely that there will need a somewhere between a small and significant number of democrats to get on board for this. we'll have to see how it plays out. the one group that nobody has talked about is the senate.
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are we just assuming the senate is just going to go along with this and not ask for its own changes? we are typically the senate. it is widely expected the senate will get on board, especially since both the majority leader, chuck schumer and minority leader mitch mcconnell, were initially in the room for conversations and then both agreed to take a step back and let biden and mccarthy work it out. since it is a bipartisan deal. it is expected to pass the senate after it passes the house. the house is kind of more interesting question mark at this point, even though it does look like there will be enough moderates in both parties to get this through. walk us through some of those roadblocks that we see coming ahead. secretary yellen said january 5th is the deadline. will congress be able to push this bill through before january 5th? if i'm not mistaken, the house has gone home. the house has gone home and june 5th is the deadline.
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we are the house will be called back next week and is expected to vote on this either wednesday or thursday. we expect to see bill text this afternoon. it would still be walked on through the night. so we will see if they are able to wrap it up in time to get it out this afternoon, which will give the house republicans have a 72 hour rule in place, which would make wednesday the earliest. but the house is expected to vote on this on wednesday or thursday. that will move out to the senate where they procedure can get a little more thorny. individual senators are able to drag things out a little bit, but with the threat of default and, you know, the week after it is upcoming week hanging over the heads of the senate, i would expect there to be some kind of agreement to move this forward, especially when it becomes clear that it will have the votes to pass. aidan, give us your prediction. how long do you think it will be before this bill is on president biden's desk? i think we'll see it on the president's desk maybe june 4th,
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sunday before the june fifth date or sometime early that next week, where, you know, yellen has kind of said you would be playing with fire a little bit if you get into that week. but i think the expectation is that the markets will see this deal and realize that the united states will be, you know, the debt ceiling will be raised and that there's not too much to worry about after we get through some of those procedural back and forth that we see. any time there's a major agreement like this. final question for you, aidan. who are some of the house members that we need to watch this week to see how quickly or how efficiently mccarthy gets this bill through? so i think a major group here that i'm very interested in watching is the republican study committee that is kind of the more conservative group of house members. it's the one of the largest caucuses in the republican
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group. and, you know, the moderate republicans will vote for this. the house freedom caucus votes will likely not vote for this if because they can keep the i.r.s. on board, which we will have to see if he can that that's a group i'm definitely watching to see if they will back this agreement. they've been really fighting to get an as conservative deal as possible. so i'm looking forward to seeing seeing what they say. we would like to think. and eight and quigley a roll call for coming in with us this morning and helping us figure out what's going on between the house and the white house. hey, thank you so much for your time. thanks for having me. i really appreciate it once again. we want to know what you are thinking about this late night deal that was struck between president joe biden and house speaker kevin mccarthy. but before we go any further, let's look at see what's actually in this bill. what are some of the provisions that we see that could be coming
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out in this agreement that's being sent to the house that was agreed to by president joe biden and house speaker kevin mccarthy? according to cnn, here'wh we'll see in the debt ceiling deal. first, it would raise the debt ceiling, increasing the debt lit for two years, which once again would take it past next year's election. it would cap non defense spending, which means that spendi would remain relatively flat in fiscal 2024 and increase by maybe 1% in fiscal 2025. after certain unspecified adjustments appropriate ones are made. but the agreement would protect veterans health, medical ce. it would expand work requirements, which would means that it would end up broad temporary broadening work requirements for certain adults receiving food stamps. it would claw back unspent covid
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19 relief funds. it would cut internal revenue service funding. but meaning, by the way, it would cancel the total fiscal year staffing, funding request that the house gop says would go for new irs agents. it would restart student loan payments. these are some of the provisions that cnn says are in the new debt ceiling bill. once again, this will go to the house this week. house speaker kevin mccarthy says that he will have a house vote on this on wednesday. what do you think about this deal? let's go to the phone lines. let's start with an who's calling from greensborough, north carolina, on the democrat line. and good morning. okay. okay. i'm glad that president biden was able to come to an agreement. however, this was a republican
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made up crisis. the republicans passed three clean debt ceiling agreements under trump without any questions or attachments. the republicans will try to say that they had to do this now because of the deficit. but that's not true because they did the same thing under president obama in 2011 and that. so you credit waiting to be downgraded. so they are trying to come up with a reason as to why the standard they did that does not make sense since they did it before. and like i said, i'm glad that president biden went ahead and came up with the agreement. but i hope that the both people that will be affected, that the republicans will be held accountable. they would be some people who
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would be affected in terms of services and hopefully people will understand that it's the republicans. but that created the problem in the first place. well, let's go to john, who's calling from malta, new york, on the republican line. john, good morning. good morning, jose. thanks for taking my call. you know, i, i watch this and i try to follow it. i watch, uh, you know, fox and i watch cnn and, you know, i read up on it and it's just a number. and i mean, what we're doing is we're seeing brinkmanship each side's go to discredit the other side. spending is clearly out of control. i mean, we're just simply spending too much. and it's it's it's really having a negative effect on our economy. and, um, you know, they've politicized this. they take it to a right to the
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very end. you know, they get all the dire warnings. i think i think we need a new leadership on both sides of the aisle. we really do. uh, the leadership that we see right now is just, uh, tearing the country apart. we're seeing a lot of this tribalism. it's polarized nation, and people that the american people really have to educate themselves, uh, for candidates and seek solutions. i mean, this is really starting to get out of control. and and if i can add this, uh, i know you're short on time. now's not the time to just open the border. i don't want to sound like i'm politicize this. you know, myself, when we have serious financial problems, and this is just further, uh, just creating more financial uncertainty. so we need leadership, and we clearly don't have it. so. okay. let's go to juliet, who's calling from rockport, mass.
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chooses on the independent line. juliet. good morning. hi, jessie. how are you? just fine. go ahead. hey, listen, that last caller was spot on. he stole my operative word, which was brinkmanship. but this is an exercise in political science. it's just the way our u.s. government is indicative of our checks and balances. and i was reading the fine print in an article in the new york times this morning, um, you know, buried way down there, like the second to last paragraph is, you know, snap benefits will only be cut 18% over the course of ten years. so it's almost negligible. um, and then some of the other things like the irs. funding is going to be from $80 million to 70 million. so again, is that negligible? we're still going to have $70 million spent on, you know, 87,000 new irs agents. but my but, you know, thrust of my call this morning is everybody listening and i hope there are many in the sunday when you probably aren't, which is why i always get in when they call.
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i was studying the u.s. debt clock last evening. it's not a it's a quick study. trust me, you don't have to be, you know, uh, mark zandi, to understand it. um, but if you look down to the bottom right hand corner where you see a section called unfunded liabilities in the united states, it is 187 true billion dollars with a t $187 trillion. to reiterate. if you look at medicare and medicaid, sorry, medicare, social security liabilities, it is a total of. almost $68 trillion. we can't just keep printing money out of thin air. there has to be a breaking point and i think we've come to it. but again, the brinkmanship up, like the other caller said, is a great exercise in political science. it's great. i thank you very much for watching general jesse and, um, have a super day. let's go to elizabeth, who's calling from randall town, maryland, on the democratic line. elizabeth, good morning. yes, i'm so happy they've
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reached agreement because i am a disabled senior and i've been so worried about losing my medicare, my social security, my food stamps, medicaid. i've been so worried about that. if they reach agreement, i think they're terrific. if we need more money to test the billionaires, tax the multibillionaires, if we need more money cut or they do, ukraine, i'm so sick of it. all the money going to ukraine. i mean, i agree with funding ukraine to a certain extent, but we could cut board aid to countries without veto funds like all like a lot of countries and the. that's all i want to say, really. i'm so happy they've talked to me, but they're terrific. i love bye. thank you very much. that's all i want to say. goodbye. well, after he spoke with some of his house members, house speaker kevin mccarthy came out and discussed what his next steps would be and address potential dissent from his side of the gop.
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here's what speaker mccarthy had to say. how was your call with like with your conference going really well. do you get a lot of. i'm sorry. well, i didn't want to interrupt. oh, no. i thought the call went really well with the members. we're working through the night to get all the language and i'll talk to the president again tomorrow after his granddaughter's graduation. and finally his. the text, the post sort of, so. it won't be long before it's not a thousand page bill. it'll probably be about 150 pages or less. we've got some dissent from some of your members, congressman. good. congressman bishop, some of the other freedom caucus. are you going to lose too many of you some time? i think you get a lot more excited than depressed on this. and i think once people read the bill, they'll be pretty excited. but most important is america wins on this one. but you are going to need some of democrats to help you out to get this passed. but any time you negotiate a bill to pass the senate, to pass the president, you always have both parties vote for the bill.
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thank you, sir. have a good night. let's see what some of our social media followers are saying about the agreement reached between president biden and speaker mccarthy. here's one tweet that says both those whose tax cuts for rich corporations are still in place. corporate socialism lives on. but wait, righties hate socialism. looks like they love it. looks like this week. they love it like their mistress. he love tweet that says just wait until former president chimes in. have we heard from him yet? another tweet says, and the go to negotiating our debt is outrageous. it's not something we do. it looks like biden caved in to some terrorists demands to me, using the 14th amendment would have been better. this maga freedom caucus has to go away for good. and one final tweet that says, what about reversing tax cuts for billionaires? once again, we want to know what you think about president biden and speaker mc reaching a
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debt ceiling agreement. democrats, your lines. 202748 8000 republican and your lines. 202748 8001. independence. you can call in at 202748 8000 eep in mind, you can always texa at 202748 8003. let's go back to our phone lines. let's start with elvin, who's callin zanes mill, ohio. on the republican line. elvin, good morning. good morning, sir. i am a vietnam veteran. i get disability payments for agent orange and i will vote for trump eight times the stronger your military is and the less likely you'll ever have to use it. and one of the things as in the spending bill, is the billions for the new green deal. what does that have to do with
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the current problem? chris vice president biden. like inflation and nine over 11. let me stop you there for a second. as far as anybody can tell right now, there's nothing in the agreement about the new green deal. we'll have to wait to see the text come out later today. but that definitely hasn't been part of any negotiation. no, but i've heard that that was part ad spending bill. well, once again, figure mccarthy said the text would come out later today. but as far as anyone saying so far that there's nothing in park, nothing in this bill about the new green deal, which i have never actually passed the house at all. okay. okay. but the one thing going in place and joining our mind and he was walking after his helicopter and they ask him, hey, what are you doing about high inflation? he looked down and he said, i
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inherited it. where what i inherited was 1.4 or 1.6. that's what he inherited. and the side panel of my car, i found an old gas receipt under president trump. dollar $0.80 a gallon at sam's club. these are the crises. is created by president biden's and these callers calling in and calling their republican crisis. that is wrong. that is wrong. hey, thanks for your time, young man. all right. let's go to daryl, who's calling from east point, michigan on the independent line. daryl, good morning. good morning. i hope. thank you for taking my call. i hope they may maybe show me your answers. question when you came out with your bullet points of what agreement comes to the why
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actually was after some time, we're just which which word specify there will be come out of the blue. no of course the 62 million social security recipients you change who by law get cost of living adjustment every year. i'm wondering if those who for the next two years who social security we ship your age. well, once again, we'll have to wait for the final text to come out from speaker kevin mccarthy later today. but as far as anything that we've seen so far, no one has said anything about suspending increases in social security. but once again, when we get the final text from kevin mccarthy, i'm sure you'll be able to find it at c-span dot org. we'll be able to go over it. let's go to harry, who's calling from franklin, louisiana, on the democratic line. harry, good morning. yes, good morning. i appreciate you taking my call.
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oh, i would like to say that. oh, we that unfortunate is complaining. the president for a little of everything. the president is a president for all people. and i believe he's doing a good job. oh, if you look back and go back in time when president when the the crazy president that we had in office, he began to spend money, he went into the know all the all the money that went to policies going in. but he never explained what he did with that money but nobody called in the ex president or what happened. they always say, oh, this one and that one. we we don't have no time to complain. we need to be gracious. a thankful that we do have a president in there. now, understanding of people not
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because of money in the pocket. so the one that have the money in the pocket is the one that stole the money out of there and then did what he had to do when he got here. yet tom has got to get the talk, tell the people, why did he go into the military and went and i know he did. i watched c-span all the time. and i appreciate you all. thank you all very much. let's go to another louisiana resident. this time, let's talk to paul, who's calling from folsom, louisiana, on the republican line. paul, good morning. good morning. how are you doing? just fine. go ahead, paul. all right. i think we have a problem with with this country. i mean, the partizanship is off the charts and i don't know what some of your callers are actually they're actually educated. that got through high school and not. but this is a simple
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mathematics. when you spend 30% more than what you're taking in. you go bankrupt. we've been doing this for years. it's actually started back in the eighties, but we had billion dollar deficits then. it's exploding now. we got trained in the democrats calling in like this president is good. i mean, he was corrupt when he got in office. he's a plagiarist. he's a liar. his son, just a horrible person. i feel sorry for the guy and the news media is the problem. we have some news media people that are they're not news media. the democrats and they're socialists. and they believe everything that they hear coming out of the white house and all the bad stuff that's going on in the white house. you can check all this out. stations except fox, and they don't report as so many things going on the border. not one station has been down on
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a border. fox has been there every day. this is a crisis in our country. we have too many people. you know, they they keep saying that's the billionaires tax the billionaires. is the top 1% pays 50% of the taxes in this country. they're they're just brain dead from listening to these democrats who who can't help themselves and lie, lie, lie. well, let's go to frank, who's calling from cincinnati, ohio. on the independent line. frank, good morning. thank you for taking my call. john adams said when you split, a man is called an attorney who is a law firm and three is a congress. congress has put us $32 trillion in the hole. i'd like to come back to that in just a second. but, you know, the inflation is caused from printing money. that's the only source.
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and trump and biden and the other presidents did it. but we came up to a flood level and now interest rates have gone up. so in order to snuff out inflation, we have to interest rates at the same time, biden wants to spend take in about $5 trillion a year in revenue. he wants to spend 6.5 trillion this year. at the same time that we're trying to stamp out inflation. he's adding to it. it's irresponsible. it's totally irresponsible. how much is $1,000,000,000,000? okay, let's just start with that. if you go to the treasury department and you see how much is dollar bill, how thick it is, it's .0043 inches thick, 43 inches $500 bills stacked on top of each other like playing cards. it's $1,000,000. you take that distance, you lay it down on the side, you take that multiply 43 times 2000,
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43,000 inches a $100 bills, and it takes you back to a billion times. a thousand is a trillion times 32. that's hundred dollar bills as tight as you can pack them across the united states, across the pacific ocean, across china, into the himalayas, to nepal. and folks, they want to spend more. we just think it's a left and right. if it's let's just say this way, democrats and republicans have sat down at a table. they eat a substitute meal, and now it's time to pay. now they can't pay. so they say, well, let's order dessert. well, let's order one because they can't get up and pay the bill. that is our predicament, folks. and we are real in their economic collapse. if you look at the debt clock, we owe $175 trillion in
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unsecured future debt. in addition to that, 30 to 200 trillion. thank you for listening to bob. but let's go to barry, who's calling from mount kisco, new york, or the democrat line. barry, good morning. good morning. thank you for c-span and thank you for taking my call. i've noticed the pattern in the calls regarding these kinds of issues the debt ceiling and such, where a lot of people who call in forgive me, i think that they are very christian people and not passionate or anything. i'm kind of religious, i guess. but what is kind of funny to me is in the bible, there's a passage, king solomon, it's people that read the bible and know anything about it. they know that the the passage talks about two women, both of
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which had a baby. one lost the baby. they then both claimed the baby, the remaining baby as their own. solomon said, okay, well, i'll cut the baby in half. whoever or you know, you should have half. and one woman said, no, no, no, no. let her have the baby. and i can't help but see that this is a parallel to our current situation. the baby is our economy, our our well-being financially. and the two mothers are the democrats and the republicans. and solomon, if you remember, determined who loved the baby most. it was the it was the mother who was willing to give the baby up in order to save it. and in my mind that that passage is something to think about when you when you think about who loves this country the most. okay. the second thing is in the bible, they talk about wealth.
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when wealth becomes an idol. i keep hearing people calling and saying, oh, you can't tax the rich because, you know, they pay, you know, the one per the last caller. i think he said the top 1% pays 50% of the taxes. but the problem with that is the top 1% owns 90% of the wealth. you would think that they would pay 90% of the taxes, but they don't. so i believe people are seeing the wealthy in this country as their idols and they shouldn't they should see them as parasites essentially on the rest of us, and they're sucking us dry. and the real answer to our country's financial problems is we tax the rich. and as a side note, we spend way too much on our defense and it's become apparent in how crappy the russians are doing in
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ukraine that we're we're unnecessarily fearful of a lot of these adversaries. they've made it plain that they are not worthy of us spending as much as we do to defend against. that's basically it. thank you. now, once again, president biden and speaker mccarthy came to this agreement together last night at the white house. but it still has to be sold to both house and senate members. the new york times in their story this morning, talked a little bit about some of the opposition in that the white house and speaker mccarthy will face from their members with about this agreement. i'll read a couple of paragraphs from that story to you once again, this is from the new york times this morning on a private call to brief members of his conference on the emerging deal. mr. mccarthy sold the agreement as a victory, saying that there was little in the package that democrats support it, but hard
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right lawmakers in the freedom caucus who for days have been venting frustration with the emerging contours of the deal, made their displeasure known. everything they fought for in the house bill was were emitted from the agreement. representative bob good of virginia said, according to a person familiar with the remarks who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe a private call. mr. mccarthy and his deputies defended the deal, citing several wins, including rolling back money for the irs. progress lives to have vented their unhappiness before the deal was even announced, said lindsay owen, the executive director of the liberal groundwork collaborative and washington, criticized the deal for forcing budget cuts in domestic programs and in particular, reducing enforcement money for the irs. conceding to republican demands to hamstring the irs is the ability to go after wealthy tax evaders is a losing proposition for democrats, she said. it undermines an important policy initiative, drains a good
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source of revenue and requires the caucus to vote down a policy that is incredibly popular with the public. once again, this is from the new york times story this morning. so both speaker mccarthy and president biden face opposition from their own sides on the agreements they struck last night. but speaker mccarthy, who is supposed to release the text of this deal today, says it will be up for a vote in the house on wednesday. once again, what we want to know is whether you agree with this deal or not. once again, we want you to call in democrats. 22748, 8000 republicans, 202748 8001 independents 202748 8002. let's go to brad, who's calling from springvale, maine on the republican line. brad, good morning. yes, good morning. i would like to know where it says in the constitution that the american taxpayer should be
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forced to bankroll a foreign countries war, and that's exactly what we're doing in ukraine right now. and, you know, the iranians are never going to pay that money back. they may not even be a country in another year. they may be absorbed back into russia. president dwight eisenhower, republican president, warned americans about beware of the american military industrial complex. and that's exactly what we're seeing today. and a lot of these billionaires, everybody's talking about, that's who they are. they know they're going to get paid regardless if the foreign countries don't pay for the equipment we send them. the american taxpayer will be forced to do so. and i don't think that's right. i don't think that's what this country supposed to be all about. thank you for listening. all right, let's go to patrick, who's calling from pittsburgh on the independent line. patrick. good morning. good morning. what your witnessing is nothing
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short of the complete deconstruction of our country. when we can when we can engage in overthrowing governments without any type of democracy whatsoever. you're you're going to see a reality for the american people that is in the future going to be truly horrific. you're looking at an unfunded liabilities over $100 trillion. you're looking at the military industrial complex, the sacrificing, nothing with the war in ukraine is completely illegitimate. we caused this war with no doubt by overthrowing a democratically elected government. and then then we put in a puppet who, by the way, is purportedly being investigated for for engaging in scams involving diesel fuel, hyper inflating it, and then turning around and making huge sums of money on what? what kind of nation are we that we blatantly violate? the constitution allowing endless wars to be created and a military industrial that's now
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calling for the weaponization of space. you're talking about trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars in order for these realities to be made so that so that a minuscule portion of our country make make enormous sums of money, everything now is rigged. the stock market is rigged. our banks are rigged. they are destroying people's cryptos, crypto accounts. you know, janet yellen talks about equity towards our brothers and sisters of color. and then what does she do? she does everything imaginable to destroy their their crypto profits. my friend got me into the crypto industry. i made a huge sum of money. and then all of a sudden they began to scare the living -- out of everyone. the banks started employ saying that they're going to take our crypto system down and now what are we looking at? we're looking at a wrecked financial future that is about to implode us. you have a good day. let's go to joe, who's calling
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from indiana on the democrat line. joe, good morning. yes, i was wondering, i i've been following this forever and whatever happens, $5 million that steve bannon stole on the wall, they keep bringing that up. that really drives me nuts. as for joe biden. yes, i feel he did backpedal. he should not have done that. the republicans want to crash the united states. that's what they've always been about. watch this. since i was a kid and i'm 66 years old, this is ridiculous. america needs to wake up. as for the social security, here, it is an entitlement you paid into it. anybody says anything different is war. so they need to wake up and do agree with what joe did. he had an asset to do. nothing else. nothing else he could do. he's being held hostage.
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america is being held hostage. and with that, i want to see the united states forgive us. our military service. i'm from a strong military family, and it really hurts me to know that i had people die in wars. and then we got to support these dummies that don't believe in the united states. with that being said, god bless you, america. let's go to jerry, who's calling from alliance, ohio, on the independent line. jerry, good morning to the people. jerry, are you there? yes, yes, i'm here. go ahead. i'm calling. i'm calling. i look at i look at the debt ceiling this way. we shouldn't we shouldn't even have a debt ceiling. we should be spending because all these all these countries that we the government spends all the to all these other countries a year, billions and billions and billions dollars. and we we suffer for that.
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and then now they want now republicans are all the time when this debt ceiling comes up, they want to take away from us. we shouldn't name we shouldn't even have a debt debt ceiling. we should should be spending just like anybody else. thank you. let's go to georgia, who's calling from el paso, texas, on the republican line. georgia, good morning. yes, hi. i'm calling on the republican line. my name is georgia. i'm trying to figure out what the point of us voting in repub applicants is. once they get into high school. they got a phone. if you notice that democrat never vote when they want something, they just go for. they don't care what nobody think about it. but the republican, they get in there and we get in the house with paul ryan.
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they didn't do nothing, did either. we gave them the house this go round. now, they voted no on this only thing they still want us to pay for long that we didn't take up student loan that we didn't take out. they still want us to take these people that's coming into the united states. so what's the point? what's the point of a voting in republican in office if they're going to like the democrats? i don't see what's what's the point if they're going to poll every time they don't have? no backbone. somebody need to stand up and have some backbone. all right. the hill newspaper has some information about some of the lighter moments in the last second push to get a deal. well, i want to read a couple of paragraphs to you from the hill newspaper. despite the high stakes and the evident exhaustion in the faces of the negotiators, there were light moments down the final stretch as well.
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representative patrick mchenry, republican of north carolina, chairman of the financial services committee and one of the top gop negotiators, kept reporters updated on the birthday parties his kids were attending and their culinary preferences. the kids had french toast, he said while entering the capitol on saturday morning. i didn't get any. several hours later, all three gop negotiators mccarthy, mchenry and representative gary graves, republican of louisiana, left building to pick up lunch at chipotle. their fetch included countless bags of chips and tubs of queso, which they left for the dozens of reporters staking out the talks. later, still, mccarthy staffers hauled from the office a americans, too, filled with ice sodas and balls of water, also for the benefit of reporters. but the endeavor suffered a few setbacks. first, the tourists roaming capitol picked the vessel clean when the aides restock and moved
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the craft out of the tour stream. it sprung a leak as the ice melted. once again, this comes from the hill newspaper. a couple of light moments as reporters and lawmakers wait to see if there would be a deal from the white house. once again, we want to know what you think about the deal done from the w house and from the speaker's office. democrats, your lines. 202748 8000 republicans. you can call 202748 8001 independence your lines. 2027 48,002. let's go to clarence, who's calling from east lansing in michigan on the democratic line. clarence. good morning. yes, good morning, sir. you know, as a retiree, i'm concerned as to the details of the social security and the health care plan that they're going to bring about, and like i said, they retire. this is my main concern. and as far as the young woman i spoke about, our man,
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republican, she seemed like a warm color. and she needs to kind of reexamine what party. she's backing, you know. don't seem like very really interested in the little salon. in fact, they seem like they're more of seem like they're i don't know. they're not really concerned with the common people. thank you. let's go to paul, who's calling from charles in south carolina on the independent line. paul, good morning. yes, good morning. yeah, just the whole thing is ridiculous. it should have been taken care of as the republican democrat problem. and that keeps the country divided. the media keeps the country divided. and they're never going to vote for term limits. so they only way we're going to get things change is to vote. the incumbent out whether they're republican or democrat. you need to vote against whoever's in there. that's the only way things are going to change. and all i have to say. all right.
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let's go to jonathan, who's calling from lancaster, new hampshire, on the republican line. jonathan, good morning. the is it pronounced lancaster and lancaster. anywhere you want to pronounce it, sir. all right. go ahead, john. i think the debt ceiling thing is more kabuki theater for the democrats to try to use it for election. you know, political advantage, which is strongly failing grade. what more clement said the other day. you know, it's just a bunch of, you know, campaign tactics and strategies that the democrats use. and also smokescreen key punch biden out of jail. okay. let's go to diana, who's calling from pinehurst north carolina, on the democratic line. diana, good morning. good morning.
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i'm i'm been a long time listener, first time caller. i'm 61 years old. i've never seen so much hate and division and partizan chips. all the incumbents need to be voted out. the american people need to come together and get corruption out of our politics and out of our government from local school boards right up to the supreme court. they're all corrupt. they're all in it for power and money. and it's not working for the american people. and thank you for taking my call. let's go to jordan, who's calling from houston, texas, on the independent line. jordan, good morning. good morning. how you doing? i just want to say this. both parties are using food tactics to scare the american public. and it's all about greed.
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that's basically what it boils to. as any 35 year veteran in military. i'm disappointed on how they do the veterans. you want the young people to come in and serve this country. but then on the back end, you neglect them. so they should be term limited seeking and that wants that food that you just keep the cycle going. you can never get back in office and that's the only way this country will ever get back to put term limits. and you can only sort of once in political office, you know, a more. let's go to lina, who's calling from ohio on the republican line. lina, good morning. good morning. and thank you for taking the call. term limits. my question is, i call upon the number or whatever. i don't care for republican or democratic. we all want a family together. i guess it's our look. and, you know, president, we got to know when he's running for president is they going to bring
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everybody here? but the border was closed and it brings so many people on the border, whether they got a fear of this, people, they got to it. you know, we're not even on money. oh, he and i have no money. the government or whatever you want to call. he could do something to say we are in a recession right now with the sickness, with the border closed, stay until i tell you to come. illegal. no, he don're years of people. stay on the border, die over or eat whatever. starving. you know, i don't think that this is a normal thing to do as a president, because i look, the president is a like a good father or bad father or bad mother. he should think of whatever a buddy, not just the father or the the democratic or the republican. i don't look republican or democratic. i look alike. we all want a family. all right. let's go to jean, who's calling from buford, south carolina, on the independent line.
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jean, good morning. good morning. how you doing today? just fine. go ahead. yes, i'm calling because. okay, we i'm a disabled veteran and we give money to all these other countries, billions of dollars, but we don't take care of the american people and veterans. we have to fight for what we deserve. you know, a lot of people in the united states, then then then go in the military, then serve the country. you know, we veterans who served their country for we could be free in it is a problem that we have to fight, you know, to get our benefits. and we we could give money to these foreign countries,
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billions dollars that don't even appreciate what we do for them. so thank you for listening. let's talk to randall, who's calling from washington, d.c. on the democratic line. randall, good morning. i just want to be certain of the topic. it is the dead feeling agreement or just any grievance that we have. well, the thing about the debt ceiling, i'm so disappointed that biden was forced to negotiate with kevin mccarthy, considering that the debt really exploded under trump. we're paying for a tax cut from the from bush and tax cuts from
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trump and. trump's mismanagement of the economy, which is he almost threw us into a recession. of course, co became no. one can blame anyone for that. and i just think that we should have held on a little longer. okay. let's go to ron, who's calling from trevose pennsylvania on the republican line. ron, good morning. good morning. just a little bit on the debt ceiling. i'm not a financial guy, but i just one of the terms that we haven't heard in the course of this is balancing the budget. right. so you've run your household. you stay within your limits and try to attain some stability in your finances. that hasn't come up. but my point is, our tax code, you know, trumps tax laws and changing the tax code to
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accommodate the economy. we should have a balanced budget. we should have a tax code that will attain a balanced budget over the course of time. and stick to it. and i don't know why we can't do that. and also, just a little aside, we talk about republican, democrat, republican, democrat. it's stand offish to tone in washington and everything, but when we call washington journal, we have to recognize that our political affiliation. and i think it's an irony of it all, like we're talking about this standoff between republicans, democrats, but yet we're we're recognizing the fact that we do have different opinions and we aren't on the same level. and that goes to the core of this whole schlemiel that we're dealing with. so on anyway, and just one other thing on immigration. i'm we're spending money. people are getting free things. i'm 63 years old, so we retire,
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paid my taxes, the tax and my social security and my pension. i don't work all those years for that. and i don't know where everybody is heads or but middle class americans like myself. there's a high level of resentment for the tax fact that people are getting things for free. and when they say these people are coming here because the straits are so dire in their country, they don't look torn and tired or crossed in the border, they look like they're moving pretty well and they're not suffering anything but them. it's it just goes to show that america is the land of opportunity. and if you want three things, you're going to get them here. let's go to ellen, who's calling from new hampshire on the independent line. ellen, good morning. good morning. um, i'm heartened by this potential compromise. um, the spirit of it, i think a
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long what goes a long way in wiping out all the vitriol. we all feel is to be grateful. and today's the middle of memorial day weekend, and there's a lot of us who have ancestors who fought in a war. we have ancestors who've done things that they don't want to. so that we can have a better life. and we should take some time to memorialize them and be grateful to them. um, i know here in new hampshire, the liquor stores sell those little red poppies, um, for a donation. um, and i think that everybody should invest in those to show that we are people who are grateful. thank you. let's go to bob, who's calling from illinois on the democratic line. bob, good morning. hello, sir.
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i just want that republican, black, republican and other republican to understand what a couple of things. you know, it is horrible. i would pass this debt ceiling in a minute. the way biden says it, because you know, but it's a shame that billionaires pay as much taxes as your second tier. not only that, trump from february, when covid 19 came out, all the way to november, when governor cuomo came out and brought his state down from covid 19 and biden got in office and said that's his number one priority to bring covid 19 down. and during that, between
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february and november, when governor cuomo got involved and was president for three or four weeks and brought his state dow down, it died because of trump, would not tell people a warn. people wear a mask, don't. we'd like to thank all of our callers who called in for that first segment. but coming up next on washington journal, author evan thomas looks at the roles war secretary. henry stimson, general karl spence and japanese foreign minister shu signori togo had in the ending of world war two. and later, washington post reporter joshua partlow discusses the new agreement between the biden administration and the colorado river states to conserve their water water supply. stick with us. we'll be right back.
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monday, memorial day will bring you live coverage of the annual wreath laying ceremony and observance program to honor america's fallen from arlington national cemetery. during the ceremony, president biden will lay a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier, followed by remarks by the president and secretary of defense lloyd austin. watch live coverage from arlington national cemetery monday, memorial day, beginning at 11 a.m. eastern on c-span. c-span now are free mobile video app or online at c-span dot org. 2023 marks the 50th anniversary of the end of the vietnam war. tonight on q&a, we'll discuss the war with metropolitan museum of president and ceo daniel weiss. mr. weiss his book in that time tells the story of poet and musician michael o'donnell, who went missing in action during the war after the helicopter he
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was piloting was shot down over cambodia. but because there was no one else there and it had to be done, o'donnell made the decision immediately that he would rescue these men. so he went down to to into the landing zone area and he hovered on the ground for 4 minutes, waiting for the reconnaissance team to arrive there, which is in a battle condition in eternity. it's a very long time to be sitting vulnerable to the enemy. but he he waited. the reconnaissance team arrived, injured, but safe. they boarded the helicopter, all of them. and o'donnell began to pull the helicopter up above the tree line and radioed, i have i have everyone. i'm coming out. daniel weiss with his book. in that time, this memorial day weekend tonight at 8 p.m. eastern on c-span q&a. you can listen to q&a, all of our podcasts on our free c-span now app. washington journal continues. we're back and we're

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