you can deal with this system just like any system. i did have a mental health appointment, and the person had no clue. the therapist was out to lunch. i observed it the first meeting. i went to the second meeting, same thing. i dropped her. you can just -- just like you do, i do the same thing with my p.c.p. although i have very good healthcare with the v.a. but i would say about two or three p.c.p.'s i had to just get rid of them and remember, there's always patient advocates. that's all i have to same. have a good one. host: thanks for that. we appreciate all your calls on this memorial day. thanks especially to you families of those who have fallen in wars and in service past. we thank you for your family's service. that'll do it for the program this morning. we are back tomorrow morning at

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pepper. he discusses his book "saving democracy: : a user's manual for every american." then bran judd talks about the biden administration's immigration policies and conditions at the southern border. following the lifting of title 42. watch "washington journal" live at 7:00 eastern tuesday morning on c-span, or on c-span now, our free mobile app. join the discussion with your phone calls, facebook comments, text messages, and tweets. host:d saturday between president biden and kevin mccarthy on raising the debt limit addressing spending concerns, house members will cut short their memorial day break and begin considering the bill as early as tomorrow. there is concern over the deal from progressives on the democratic side and from the speakers right side.

they want to bring a vote of the entire house by wednesday. good morning, it is monday, may 29, 2023 and it is also memorial day, welcome to "washington journal." we will talk about the debt limit bill and that vote coming up on wednesday. we will look into some of the provisions of the bill and ask you your thoughts. here are the lines -- you can also send us your thoughts by text. make sure you tell is your name and where you are texting from. we welcome your comments on facebook and on twitter and instagram and you can post those. while that will occupy most of our first hour, on this memorial

day, we will spend a good portion of this program and this morning on c-span with reflections from arlington national cemetery and later, the vietnam veterans memorial in the nation's capital. this is a live look at a damp area near the tomb of the unknown where president biden will be arriving later this morning. we will bring you that ceremony and the laying of the wreath and the speech at the amphitheater at arlington national. that's expected to get underway about 11:00 a.m. eastern we will have live coverage here on c-span and have it for you on our streaming app, c-span now and at c-span.org. later this program, more thoughts on memorial day and we will hear about military mental health with the retired major general richard stone. right now we focus on the debt ceiling bill and the

negotiations in the rules committee and later on the house floor. the reporting of roll call, the text of the bill came out last night so number of reporters and others have been going over to see what's in it. this is from roll call --

the rules committee will meet at 3 p.m. tuesday to set the parameters of the debate in the chamber is expected to vote wednesday. your comments on the debt ceiling agreement -- this is the house speaker late saturday evening, kevin mccarthy announcing the outline.

[video clip] >> i talked to the president twice today after weeks of negotiations. we have come to an agreement in principle. we still have a lot of work to do but i believe this is an agreement in principle that's worthy of the american people. it's historic reductions in spending, consequential reforms that will lift people out of poverty into the workforce rein in government overreach and no new taxes or government programs and there is more within the bill. we have more work to do tonight. we have the writing of it and i want to take a moment and thank patrick mchenry and garrett graham for their work on this. i know you have a lot of questions but i will not take them tonight. out of respect come i want to brief our members about where we are. we will finish the writing of

the bill and check with the white house and speak with the president tomorrow afternoon and posting it tomorrow and then vote on it on wednesday. thank you for your time and i think this is very worthy of the american public. host: the speaker late saturday night and we will have some reaction a little bit later as well. reporters covering the issue, here are some comments. also on twitter --

here is the headline from cnn -- a photo there of congressman dusty johnson of south to coda who we will hear from.

guest:5 guest: [indiscernible] speaker mccarthy made additional

comments and posted them on twitter later after >> how was your call? >> it went very well. i didn't want to interrupt. >> oh, no. i thought the call went really well with the members. we're working through the night to get all the language. and i'll talk to the president here tomorrow after his granddaughter's graduation, and we'll finalize the text and post it to everybody can read it. it won't be a long bill. it's not a 1,000-page bill. it will probably be about 150 pages or less. >> you've got some dissent from some of your members, some of the other freedom caucus. you're going to lose too many to give you pause? >> i think you got a lot more excited than the press, and i think once people read the bill, they'll be pretty excited. most important, america wins on this one. >> you are going to need some democrats to help you out to get this passed?

>> any time you negotiate a bill to pass you always have both parties vote for the bill. >> thank you, sir. have a good night. host: an additional response via twitter, this one from the white house late yesterday. president biden saying the speaker and i made clear from the start that the only way forward is a bipartisan agreement. this agreement is an important step forward and will now go to the united states house and senate. the speaker saying president biden claimed he'd never negotiate. leader schumer insisted there would be a "clean debt increase, they were wrong." the speaker saying yesterday republicans fought to spend less, block biden's new tax proposals, claw back unspent covid money, and fully fund our veterans and defense priorities. but responding to that, democratic congress woman said this, translation, republicans were willing to default and devastate the economy in

exchange for the ability to take away food, resources, and services from the most vulnerable. republicans also fought to protect rich tax cheats. we're talking about the debt deal, which will get underway in the house and the rules committee, we understand, tomorrow, and up for a vote by wednesday. 202-748-8000 is the line for democrats. 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8002, that's the line for independents. is the live republicans and the line for independents is (202) 748-8002. caller: what a joke, what did they accomplish? what did the republicans accomplish, nothing. they held the country hostage to raise the adults receiving food stamps from 49-54 years old.

the debt ceiling has been raised. infrastructure is still where it was, what did they gain? nothing. if they were just holding the country hostage to placate the base of theirs. spending level is still the same. they didn't accomplish anything and the people that vote republican, please stop voting against your own people. it makes no sense. those people don't care about you, all they care about is power in their cult leader donald trump. wake up. you all wake up, you are the joke. host: on to that he in south carolina, republican caller. caller: the democrats are not

going to go along with anything republican. what we are in today is because of the democrats. they won't do nothing. all they are doing is destroying this country. that first caller is wrong is wrong can be. they called to tell a bunch of lies and they talk about trump will he gave to the rich. we were doing good but you see what we are doing now. i vote for what they say in what they do but not this president. he does what he wants.

people don't have to worry about gas or food or paying their light bill or all that. but we do. i am 79 years old and i never in my life saw anything like this. host: this is the front page of the washington times --

[video clip] >> you have said you're caucus would not support a bill more requirements that hurt poor people. does the deal do that and is this a dealbreaker for you? >> i don't know because i haven't seen the language. first of all, terrible policy,

absolutely terrible policy. it does not reduce spending. by some estimates, it creates a burden on administrative spending that is actually worse for the overall cost of a program like that. it is about people who are hungry, people who just need a little bit of temporary assistance. we are one of the only countries in the world if not the only one that is an industrialized country that puts any requirements on people who just want food. very bad policy, does not save money and does not work. we have seen dreams of data that show when you put these work requirements in, they are really just administrative redtape that prevents people who need help from getting help. what i'm not sure on what i'm looking at now and i need to see the text is what it means in terms of the exemptions that were put in. that's for veterans and folks

experiencing homelessness and people coming out of foster care. those are three exemptions that were included so what to the numbers look like? i'm not sure. it is bad policy. i told the president that directly when he called me last week on wednesday. this is saying to poor people and people who are in need that we don't trust them in the average amount of assistance for snap is six dollars per day. we are talking about six dollars per day. i think it is really unfortunate the president open the door to this and at the end of the day, perhaps because of the exemptions, perhaps it will be ok but i cannot commit to that. it's not just progressives, across the ideological spectrum, people feel this is bad policy. it's very unfortunate that it even made its way into the

discussion. host: the reaction on social media -- [video clip] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] ford (202) 748-8000 democrats, (202) 748-8001 for republicans, independents (202) 748-8001. (202) 748-8002.

let's hear from linda, democrats line for mississippi, go ahead. caller: good morning. i'm so tired of republicans always stating that the economy was so good with trump. it was good because trump was in there because of obama and biden area when biden came in, he had to clean up behind trump just as obama cleaned up behind bush. this debt ceiling discussion, it is just ridiculous. people already had to work for their medicaid and their benefits. when you are alert -- working below poverty, you're working every day but you are not making enough money to earn enough

money to get off of food stamps. then there are those that cannot work. the republicans always try to balance the budget on the back of the poor. they are crying and crying but the only reason they go against the poor people is because they want more taxes. it's a hardship that they should pay the right amount of taxes. host: are you disappointed that revenue was not as big then you had hoped? caller: yes, if you want everyone to pay their fair share, i have to pay mine and

you had to pay yours. they are concerned about the rich paying a little bit more. that's only fair. they talk about welfare. taking food from children and families, they are getting the tax revenue free. the rich don't even pay taxes and trump only paid $750 in taxes. host: pond to our independent line, ohio, hello there. caller: good morning, america. we are in the same place every time the debt ceiling hits us. this is even worse because we are on a holiday and what's going on? the staffers are the one hacking this bill out. our representatives are having a

good time and enjoying the holiday. the democrats have done excellent job as far as exploiting america and as far as maga. the reason i voted for trump is he did what he said he was going to do a didn't allow anybody to make decisions for him. i enjoyed paying $1.86 gas. joe biden comes in he slashes everything the trump did in that we have a run at the border, illegals coming in, we have to support them, roughly $200 billion a year to support these people. we need to audit everybody in that building behind you and even joe biden. he is under investigation. as far as the durham report, they allowed the clock to run out so no one could be prosecuted. we are in one hell of a mess and the only one who can help us is

ourselves. we need to get these individuals out of here. host: onto the republican line, richard in new york, good morning. caller: how are you doing? this is a problem. i enjoy c-span but the problem is, the education level in america is at an all-time low. the people that call in, these are some of the dumbest people i've ever heard in america. everyone has to get smart -- host: why do you say that? caller: you can tell that these people are going through life with blinders on. i just don't understand. when you are young, you go in a job and you work, food stamp so this other stuff, you have to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps. this is the problem.

these guys have an easy life, they get money for free, food for free, everything free but the people that work, the middle class, what do we get for free? we down, we work until we break our backs and hopefully social security is still there and then we die off. this has to stop. we need trump back in office. he is a smart man, he is a businessman. i'm sick of people in america hating trump. you cannot hate somebody like that, forget about trump, deal with the policies. we need to make america strong again and stop the free. you cannot go through life with free. that's the problem with these young people. i'm a plumber. when people come to the job, they think they will get everything for free. that's not america.

america is you build it and these people, especially democrats, they just want to just sit in the house and get these free programs. host: this is the new york times this morning.

comments on social media this morning -- one more from christine -- next is adam in pennsylvania on

the democrats line, good morning. caller: good morning. i wanted to make a comment about work requirements i heard several people talking about that. haven't heard people mention why they are so bad. the real issue with workwear armaments is that anywhere from 62-78 percent of disabled people in this country are denied disability and because of that, they are not considered disabled and they are under these work requirements. they have to work even though they can't in order to reap the benefits. host: the work requirements in this agreement would apply to folks under the age of 54, able-bodied people. is that correct? are you there? all right -- i lost you there, lindo in

california -- linda in california. caller: i would agree that neither party cares about the country or the people. i think both parties are committed to wall street, and american form of capitalism that wants to have american capitalism around the world. we are putting way too much money into our pentagon and military interests which are the biggest money makers on wall street. we are putting way too much money in there. the wealthy capitalists aim toward controlling a world of

unfettered capitalism. it's a fantasy to begin with. it could never happen, even the most fascist nation on the earth could not make this a unipolar world. we are spending too much money for that. we need to get to taking care of our planet. we need to get to taking care of the people around the world. we need to clean up our waters. how many cities in our country do not have drinkable water? both parties are committed to a unipolar world under united states control. that is madness. it is fascism. it's impossible. host: we are talking about the debt ceiling deal which will be voted on by wednesday in the u.s. house.

the lines are (202) 748-8001 (202) 748-8000 democrat per democrats, republicans, (202) 748-8001, independence (202) 748-8002. this is the chart and what is in the biden/mccarthy deal. it was raised -- he would raise the debt until january 1 after the presidential election, it would cap spending growth at 1%. it would keep domestic spending flat this year. it would cut $10 billion from the irs and cut defense spending by 3.2% this year. it would clawback the unspent covid-19 aid, streamline permitting for some energy projects and it would force the president to cut spending on new regulation and would expand work requirements for food stamps and

welfare cash payments. representative dusty johnson, republican of south dakota was on state of the union yesterday. he was asked about grumbling on the republican side. [video clip] >> we are hearing a lot of grumbling from your caucus. some call this a debt ceiling surrender. they said no one claiming to a can did -- to be conservative could claim a yes vote in the basic criticism is that mccarthy gave up too much and could have gotten more. what do you think of that? >> i'm the head of a group of 75 pragmatic conservatives who are called the mainstreet caucus. there will be freedom caucus people who vote for this package so when you say the

conservatives have concerns, it is really the most colorful conservatives. some of those guys didn't vote for the thing when it was a republican wish list. those votes were never really in play. we get that but overwhelmingly come republicans in this congress will support the deal. it is a fantastic deal. >> how many votes will you get and how many can you afford to lose? >> we are starting the process now. i talked to between two and three dozen republican members but i have not heard a single one of them telling me that i can't support them. >> buck norman and goode have some thoughts. >> let's be honest, bob good will not vote for this thing. he is not voting for it. he was never going to. this is going to pass. host: we are spending this first hour on "washington journal" talking about the debt ceiling

deal which will come up for a vote on wednesday in the u.s. house. part of program this morning and we will spend a good deal of the program this morning later at arlington, national ceremony on this memorial day. our live camera look at arlington national with a little bit of rain this morning in the nation's capital expected to move out. either way, we will have large cup -- live coverage when the president arrives. the wreath-laying ceremony gets underway at 11:00 a.m. eastern we will have live coverage of that and have our cameras at the vietnam veterans memorial as well. we will about veterans until health later. president biden at 11:00 a.m. here on c-span it stream that live on c-span.org and you can watch it and c-span now. back to our conversation on the debt deal, new york city is next, democrats line. caller: yes, vote -- i hold

c-span responsible for not educating these people that call. there is some money for racist white trash that call up c-span and continue to vote against their own interests. i don't understand how you can continue to vote against your own interests. the democrats is the part of the helps the poor and the middle class. there is no millionaires that call up c-span. the majority of these people are dependent on the government. they continue to depend on the government. c-span needs to educate these people and stop letting these people call up and talk about trump. trump did nothing for this country, he should never have been president. this man is a crook, this man is racist and he continue to bring

out the worst in people. we do not need this man to be president again. i hope the people wake up. host: in las vegas, republican line. your thoughts on the debt deal. caller: good morning, america. it's memorial day so let's keep that in mind. we are in an autocracy where these people are the least capable government. they are elected by non-producers. we our society they cannot sustain itself yet is awarded goods and services from a diminishing number of wealthy people. your last color was the perfect example. the function of the media is not to educate people. it's to report which in this

country they don't. i hope the debt ceiling does get past. it looks like it's going to. when obama went one dollar, one dollar for defense and domestic, we should have stopped it right there. we have to have strong defense because we cannot protect what we have, we have nothing. hopefully, everything will be good but keep in mind that we live in america and we live in a country that should award -- reward people who make money and we shouldn't be concerned, i'm serious, we should not be concerned with people who are not producers, people who don't get out there and work. the one guy who talked about the people not qualify for disability, well you are not

qualify for disability, you have to draw the line somewhere. we have to continue to keep going forward, god bless america and thanks for taking my call, have a good day. host: on to laura, democrats line from washington, welcome. caller: good morning and thanks for c-span. the problem is not the open borders and's not the national debt, there are no borders. it's fascism going on in the nation that's causing the problem with the debt ceiling. they want to prove that they are strong and we are we just not true. i encourage you to understand that you and the middle-class >> we will leave washington journal to go to arlington national cemetery where shortly president biden will be taking part in a wreath-laying ceremony at the tomb of the unknowns.