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c-span now is available at the apple store. c-span now, your front row seat to washington. anytime, anywhere. the final package came last night in the senate after senators needed 11 amendments offered as part of an agreement to speed up the passage of the bill after the final votes. senate majority leader chuck schumer spoke about the debt limit agreement and this is what he had to say. >> democrats are feeling very good tonight. we saved the country from the scorch of default, though there were some on the others who wanted default, wanted to lead us to default. may be a little tired but we did it. we are very happy. default was a giant sword hanging over america's head, but because of the good work of president biden as well as democrats in the house and democrats in the senate, we are
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not defaulting. democrats said from the start we must take default off of the table. for a long time, republicans, many in the house, resisted. house republicans were ready to take default hostage in order to pass a radical hard right agenda that never could have passed with the american people. so tonight outcome is very welcome news for our economy and american families. i think my colleagues for the good work tonight. i commend president biden and his team for producing a sensible compromise under the most difficult of circumstance. so many of the destructive provisions in the republican bill are gone. because we persisted and we kept insisting default is off the table. we will not be defaulting. and we will not be passing the hard right extreme agenda, virtually no part of it.
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that is thanks to senate and house democrats and president biden. host: senate majority leader chuck schumer last night. that was a little before midnight and it was close to 11:00 p.m. when the senate had its final vote in his statement yesterday after the final vote. this is what the senate minority er, mitch mcconnell, had to say, t republican leader in the senate for months after speaker mccarthy invited prison biden to begin negng a resolution to the looming debt crisis and an important step toward fis sanity will finally become law. thanks to houselica efforts he said the fiscal response bill the acts th catastrophic consequences of default begs to occur wash demrats addiction to reckless spending that grows our nations debt. he went on to say senate passed legislation that will reduce trillion, begin to reform the infrtureermitting
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process, resend unspent covid dollars and cut spending at the irs. he says our work is far from over in delivering necessary support to americans armed forces. minority leader mitch mcconnell, it was a statement they came out late last night from the white house and this is what president biden had to say last night. he said both parties vot to protect the hard-earonom progress we haveade and prevent a first-ever default by together they trata once more that america is a nation that pays its bills and meet its obligations and always will be. no one gets everything they want in negotiation but i bipartisan agreement is a big win for the economy and american people. we are expecting to hear a lot more from the president tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern. expected to speak about the legislation in any address from the oval office. this morning on the "washington journal," we want to hear from
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you, your reaction that the senate vote last night and the winding path that this bipartisan agreement took to get the prison biden's desk. to do so, the phone lines are as usual, republican party -- split by party, here's the republican line, (202) 748-8001. democrats are (202) 748-8000. and independence are -- independents are (202) 748-8002. we will start with democrats in indiana pennsylvania. josie, good morning. caller: good morning. i'm very pleased with how this has worked out. it is a sign that moderation is coming to american politics. for so many years we have heard the division in our bureaucracy. we heard division in our legislative process. there was of course the sniping back and forth but it was low-key, it was a moderates on
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both sides of the party who brought this to a very good conclusion, so i applaud everyone who participated, particularly the moderates on the republican side, on the democrat side, and i particularly applaud president biden. he is a man who gets things done. he gave mccarthy enough room that mccarthy could do what he needed to do. and without taking away any of mccarthy's power within his own caucus. host: do mind if i ask, do you consider your senator, john fetterman of its venue, a moderate? i ask because he was one of the few democrats who voted against the bill last night. caller: i understand why he voted against it, john fetterman is my senator and indeed he is. his vote is ok with me because i understand completely, as the
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former mayor of pennsylvania, he understands what it is to receive food stamps or from that program, he understands the cuts would hurt the constituency he worked for for so long so i understand his vote. i believe john fetterman will come to the center more often than not and that is why i voted for him in november. host: josie in pennsylvania. this is jason in tennessee, your next. caller: yes, trump [indiscernible] he's got a lot of experience in that, he filed bankruptcy. host: what did you think about the process on capitol hill and agreement finally reached? caller: democrats pull them out again. host: that is jason in tennessee this morning. john fetterman is one of the democrats who voted no, the
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final was 63 to 36 with a 60 vote threshold that the bill needed in the senate last night. here are the democrats besides john fetterman who voted no, jeff merkley of oregon, elizabeth warren of massachusetts as well, bernie sanders independent of vermont, also voting no. those are the democrats -- those who caucus with democrats devoted no bang. -- voted no. this is the "new york times" wrap up, 17 republicans voted yes, john boseman, shelley moore o, susan collins, kevin cramer, chuck grassley, mitch mcconnell, the minority leader, jerry moran, lisa murkowski, mitt romney, john thune, thom tillis, and todd young are the republicans who voted yes on the
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legislation. 17 republicans joining 44 democrats and two independents, the final vote in the senate. 63 voting yes, and 36 voting no. before the vote, it was mitch mcconnell on the floor of the senate talking about the debt limit agreement. this is some of what he had to say. >> last night and an overwhelming majority of our house colleagues voted to pass the agreement speaker mccarthy reached with president biden. in doing so, they took an urgent and important step in the right direction. for the health of our economy, and the future of our country. the fiscal responsibility act avoids catastrophic consequences of a default on our nations debt. just as importantly it makes the
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most serious headway in years toward curbing washington democrats reckless spending. the bill in the house just past has the potential to cut federal spending by $1.5 trillion. now the senate has a chance to make that important progress a reality. remember where we were just a few months ago. after two years, of reckless spending and painful runaway inflation, the american people elected a republican house majority the serve as a check on washington democrats power. it was clear from the outset that preserving the full faith and credit of the united states is going to come down to an
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agreement that could pass both the people's house and earn the president's signature. in other words, direct negotiations between speaker mccarthy and president biden, just like i said for months. for months. back in february, speaker mccarthy got to work. he made it clear to the president he was ready to take serious steps, not only to avoid crisis in the near term but but government spending on a more sustainable path for the long term. unfortunately, it took president biden months to accept the basic reality. when the president finally came to the table, house republicans worked hard to secure as many serious spending reforms as possible.
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considering we were in divided government. host: minority leader mitch mcconnell before the final vote took place, the final vote around 11:00 p.m. eastern. now the debt limit bill is on its way from mr. biden's desk. we are asking for your thoughts. republicans, (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents (202) 748-8002. henry is an independent, texas, good morning. caller: good morning. i just think the debt ceiling thing, what it really highlights is what i've said for the longest, big business is what runs this country. this rhetoric from republicans and sometimes you hear rhetoric from democrats, but the reality is it is not republicans and democrats that really run the country, it is big business. if people paid attention to a
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couple things that happened that were real subtle. first, when this all blows up, you had the white house that was making an effort to contact big businesses, at least the leaders of the businesses, and also you had mike mccarthy go in visit wall street. put those two things together and you can see where it was most likely big business behind the scenes putting pressure on these people to do what they did in a timely matter because, to run the country off a cliff for full is nash would have been devastating to everyone, including big business. host: that is henry in texas. back to our line, democrats, pennsylvania, this is dave in harrisburg. good morning. caller: good morning.
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thanks for taking my call. a couple things. i'm glad they did with they had to do. we talk about being taken hostage by the same people who stormed out capitol. that is point number one. point number two, and 2011, we were downgraded because of this foolishness and never upgraded us again. we have been living under the same credit rating since then. the lady from indiana hit it on the head and cooler heads have to prevail, even when nonsense is upon us. i think that is with the democrats had to deal with in this so-called right wing madness, but they got it done because those of us who rely on our four ones in the near future , retiring here soon, we don't have enough in 10 years to recoup what these guys could have destroyed for us. in this debacle and this state
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created crisis. i don't know, we will just see what all is in this bill. for instance, the purred meeting process has been loosened -- permitting process has been loosened so mansion can get his pipeline in. we will see what else is in there that is not yet apparent. that's what i wanted to say. host: that is dave in harrisburg, pennsylvania. in terms of what is in the debt limit bill, that is on its way to the president, here is some part of it, the fiscal response ability act as it is known would suspend the debt ceiling until january 1, 2025, limit discretionary spending for two years, also impose a new rourke -- newark requiments for those receiving federal aid and resend a quarter of eye-- iris funding last year, clawback
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millio of dollars of covid really funds, for the energy permitting process and the caller was talking about the fast track of the new national gas pipeline from west virginia into the states of virginia. the congressional budget office estimates e bill would result in about $1.5 trillion deficit savings over the next decade. this is raymond out of north carolina, republican, good morning. what did you think about this final bill and the process to get it? raymond, are you with us? caller: yes. good morning. i'm sorry. i wanted to talk about this debt ceiling thing. speaker mccarthy i request he be removed immediately. he is not doing what he promised he was going to do. he said he was going to immediately get rid of all of the funding for the 87,000 irs agents, and if you want to do
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some serious negotiations about the debt ceiling, you need to get rid of some of these departments in the government that were never meant to be in the federal government like the department of education, the department of interior. even the fbi, you need to bring it down to the state levels and let the states control their situation and remove some of the power from the federal government in general. and they did not address any of these things. host: it's not mccarthy for speaker, who would you prefer? caller: byron donalds would be great. i think you would be great. there's a lot of conservatives out there that would be great. you need to bring the spending under control, not just dress-up a duck and tell everyone it's a chicken. you can't do that. we are in serious situation right now and mccarthy is not a serious player. he can take lessons off of nancy pelosi.
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she was a powerful speaker. when she would say jump people would say how high do you want me to jump? mccarthy has let us down and when he was voted in for speaker, a certain amount of congresspeople said get him out, he could be removed. remove him. get him out of there. host: that is raymond in north carolina. in terms of the savings in the bill, the upchuck column of the new york times takes a look at it, looking at some of the side deals for future spending, lessen the total amount of savings in the debt bill. a "new york times" analysis of the bill and agreement finds the full deficit savings will be only about two thirds of what is captured in the legislation and that is because the agreement struck by mccarthy and biden will require congress to appropriate much more spending as part of the second set of bills expected to pass in the coming months.
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they write future changes which the right -- white house is calling agreed-upon adjustments and many observers called side deals or gimmicks would increase federal spending in unconventional ways and then direct the money into the part of the budget that the current bill cuts the deepest instead of a total deficit reduction of $1.5 trillion over a decade as the budget office projected, the full package would probably reduce deficits by about $1 trillion, including interest payment over the next decade. that is a major shift the new york time rights from where republicans started negotiations. the bill they passed back in duce the deficit by $4.8 trillion. that analysis is the upchuck column in the "new york times." this is robert in maryland, independent, good morning. caller: good morning. as mortgage rates head to 7%, credit card rates had to 20%, everybody should remember this is the reason why.
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before christmas, 20 republicans in the senate voted to approve an omnibus bill, 1.7 trillion dollar omnibus bill. just before christmas, 20 republicans. here we are six months later, we had 149 or 139 vote in the house of representatives to have an unlimited debt ceiling of 4 trillion as it is now. the republican party can no longer call themselves the conservative party. when they are voting for these types of increases. the inflation that is caused by this, the inflation that has been imposed on the american worker, the destruction of the value of the dollar on behalf of china, nothing china loves more to see the dollar be destructed. these republicans can no longer be called conservative. you sit back and watch these guys do this again and again and
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it is unbelievable host: host:. host:host: who are the true conservatives then? caller: it looks like you only have 10 of them that voted -- the guys that voted against this stuff in the rules. that is where they should have been stopped. we have conservatives in the republican party. this is a one-party system and it is destroying the economy. you cannot ask for better helpers for the chinese communist party than the republican party. there is no difference between them. we are $32 trillion in debt. if you want to know why your credit card is 20%, if you want to know why your grocery bills are $100 for have a cart of groceries, this is the reason why. host: that is robert in maryland. this is micah, orlando, florida. good morning. democrat. caller: good morning. i just wanted to [indiscernible]
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why the democrats keep allowing the republicans [indiscernible] they spend like drunken sailors and the democrats are the ones that [indiscernible] host: you're going a little in and out there. this is russell, republican, good morning. caller: good morning. this $32 trillion in debt, all tax money that goes to the government to run government obviously it is taking care of business. from what i can understand, we only pay the interest on this money because it appears we are not self-sufficient anymore in the united states. what is happening is you keep raising the debt, raising the ceiling, raising the ceiling, and the data gets higher and higher, and all you are doing is paying off the interest on it and everything and every time we
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have this money that has to be accumulated to do good in our country like they wanted all the money for the covid vaccines and everything, all this money, but some of the people in our government, republicans also, and i am a true republican, they got these little pet projects. i won't sign off on it and vote for it if i cannot have $10 million for the kennedy center -- kennedy center or whatever. then they want to check my credit score when i make a loan when the united states of america is not even paying their debt? it is absolutely ridiculous. as far as for a house and immigrants in motels and stuff, while we have veterans that made sacrifices as well as their families, cardboard boxes under bridges in mostly democratic cities, i'm dam near ashamed to be american. host: russell in louisiana, a
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quick look at u.s.dataclock.org. revenue is about $4.7 trillion, federal spending about $6.1 trillion. the total u.s. national debt accumulated over the years, $31 trillion and counting. u.s. tech clock -- u.s. -- us debtclock.org. this is joe, independent, good morning. caller: question and then a comment. i thought dianne feinstein did not vote last night on the bill or whatever, on raising the debt ceiling. with her being not well, there was talk recently about that if she wanted to step down and have a replacement, the republicans
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would not let her replace because it was not allowed or something. host: she was a yes last night on the legislation and her vote was counted last night and right after that vote, about 11:04 eastern, "while i would have preferred the increase of the debt limit without conditions set by house republicans, this was a far better outcome than defaulting on our debt." that is senator feinstein of california. caller: ok, on may be some of the amendments she did not vote. wells finding online with the senate data, maybe they're not entering their data right. but this is my question, they did talk about if she was replaced and wanted to step down on things like voting for judges and things, she cannot do that. we would lose a vote. so i want to know why when ben sasse stepped down from
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nebraska, how compete rickett supreme much assigned himself as the replacement, the x governor of nebraska, how come he is able to vote? host: if a center set down and does not fill their term, they are replaced by any appointee, the governor, i think you were talking about her not voting and committees but remaining a senator. is that what you are referring to? caller: yes. host: i think that is what you're talking about. this is conrad in south dakota, democrat. good morning. caller: good morning. host: go ahead, conrad. caller: i just had a few things to say about this. we figure and we debate on how different types of institutions, and we assign money to different
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things which these programs don't even really work for the people, but my main thing is that we wonder about the debt ceiling and dead we are in. how about -- how come we never adjust our tax code to make it fair that everybody pays a fair share? that would increase revenue for our government and then being able to pay that deficit down faster. host: what is a way -- how would you like to see the tax code adjust to? what would make it more fair? caller: for me, i am -- me and my wife are an elderly couple. we work, we are coming up on our retirement, and retirement don't even sufficiently fund the people. yet when i work, i paid anywhere
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from 20 to 32 percent taxes out of my -- 20% to 32% taxes out of my paycheck and i hear these richer one per centers don't pay no taxes. if everybody paid their way, including the rich and corporations, that would really increase the revenue in our government. host: that's conrad in south dakota. this is mark out of texas, republican, good morning. caller: good morning. i'm calling about i'm disappointed out republican leaders, majority leader did not do his math. i sat out -- sat down and did math with a calc you later, if you take 87,000 new irs agents and paid them $50,000 a year, that is still going to be about $4.5 trillion annually, just for salaries.
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and of course they will probably make more. it is disgusting that the democrats their way money like they have around the world, over the borders, and trump is it. i hope everyone wise it up and god bless. host: what do you think about ron desantis? caller: he should stay in florida. he did a good job there. teachers stay there. [indiscernible] trump studied on it for at least 30 years and he is the best we ever had for this nation. host: that is mark in texas. coming up to 7:30 on these coast, halfway through the first hour of the "washington journal" in this first hour talking of course about the final vote of the debt limit bill in the senate, clears the senate last night headed to the president's
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desk it went to the president's desk, president biden is set to speak on the bipartisan agreement tonight from the oval office at 7:00 p.m. eastern. more reaction from the senators who voted on the bill last night . here is senator ron johnson, wisconsin, who voted no. he tweeted this out, consistently voted against massive deficit spending, so i will let those who support reckless spending raise the debt ceiling. this tweet from senator kevin cramer, who is a republican who voted for the legislation. as our country's national debt approaches $32 trillion, what a change from the democrats' reckless spending, i voted for the fiscal responsibility act to restore regular order. this from senator michael bennett, democrat of colorado. tonight i voted to avoid a catastrophic default on our national debt. although it isn't perfect it prevents a historic default that would have devastated our
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economy. he goes on to say, we cannot continue like this with time to limit the debt ceiling and permanently lift the threat of default from our economy. this from democrat ed markey, a democrat who voted no, saying that he voted no on the bill. it is despicable that the republicans held our economy hostage. i could not vote for a bill that puts pipelines over lifelines. pipelines was a big reason why joe manchin voted for the legislation last night. after the vote he tweeted this statement. >> hello, i'm united states and enter joe manchin honor to represent west virginia. i am proud to announce that we have finally secured the completion of the mountain valley pipeline, and have done so with broad bipartisan support. for more than nine months i worked tirelessly to build consensus and garner the support necessary to finally complete the m.v.p.. the bill is complete, the mountain valley pipeline
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received a bipartisan vote on the senate floor. received enough republican support necessary to become law. it was too important to the energy security of our country to give up. i doubled down to build support by working with speaker mccarthy, leader schumer, white house officials, and colleagues on both sides of the aisle. in the house and senate. to make the case for this critical energy security project. i am thrilled the republicans and democrats came together to complete the mountain valley pipeline and shore up the marriage -- shore up american energy security. the mountain valley pipeline is america's energy m.v.p. and we are proud to supply the energy the rest of our nation relies on. this transformational project will create more than 2500 jobs, generate $50 million in tax revenue, and more than 170 5 million dollars in royalties for west virginia landowners. and play a significant role in strengthening our domestic energy production, which will lower the cost for consumers and
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west virginia and across the country. perhaps even more importantly, the m.v.p. opens markets for our natural resources giving us untold revenue sources and developing industry that our grandchildren and future generations will benefit from. daybreak let's democrat joe manchin last night after that final vote. back to your phone calls, getting your reactions. democrats and independents as usual. this is out of new orleans. wfaa i want to say from the great state of louisiana we thank the team that got together with the democrats. we thank mccarthy and we want to thank the president for coming to the conclusion that they could not go forward.
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letting money go back to the state will never work. no matter what they say, not getting away with it. we live in a great country. we will do better down the road. it is a fact from this state of louisiana where the governor has john bel edwards has got for this state, republicans, going in the right direction. we are in a great country. we have our flaws, our problems, but we are a great country and when we come together, all of us, we can make things happen. i think that this is just an indicator of the barometer pointing in the right direction. host: i think that you meant congressman garrett graves, one of the lead republican negotiators? caller: yes. mr. mccarthy got him to go in. he has done a good job. host: did you know much about garrett graves of louisiana before these negotiations began as someone from new orleans?
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caller: with others like troy carter and steve scalise, we have a delegation for louisiana that are a good delegation, independent, everyone has their own philosophy when it comes to politics, but the main thing is that we all come together to make the best decision for the country and the state. i think that this is what happened in washington. there was -- there is not a democrat or republican who wanted to see a default. thank god that they came to the room. thank god for the christians and the prayers. we came to the conclusion. we have two years cap so we will be able to tweak it better. we have a presidential election. we have storm season in louisiana. we need to be sure that the government can assist in these situations that we have down here. you know katrina. steve scalise, and all of them, even if they didn't vote for it they bring a lot from louisiana
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to washington, d.c. and i think that they are doing a good job. host: this is lydia from upper morrow, maryland. caller: good morning. i'm glad that they passed the debt ceiling, because it would have been catastrophic if we were allowed to default. i was worried because i am 86 years old and i depend on my social security cap. i think that we have a revenue problem. i know that rich individuals pay some taxes, but multinational corporations and a lot of nonprofits, they should be forced to pay some taxes. i think that our tax code needs to be revamped. every american, a citizen, corporation, business, should have to pay some taxes doors this country. you can't run a country without money like you can't run your household. i think that the tax code needs to be completely revamped. our internal revenue agents that
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they want to hire to go after people who are not paying the taxes that they owe, i was very upset that they removed that from the bill. thank you very much. host: richard from alabama, independent. caller: i want to ask a simple question and make a comment afterwards. have you ever heard of nature's granola bar? host: i have, richard. caller: you know exactly what it is and it is bear scat. that is what the legislation, these people passes. there are a few good things in it you can pick out and survive on it, but basically it is covered with a bunch of crap. everyone is calling for a corporation to pay taxes -- corporations don't pay taxes. they pass all of that cost on to consumers. i mean, they might put money in there, but it is actually the people paying for it. people who are on boards, ceos,
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let them pay the taxes. the corporations are just going to raise the prices on us, and that's all i have to say. host: comments from social media and from our text messaging service, daniel in springfield, illinois, neither side likes the agreement, but they think that they can agree with it -- they can live with it, that's a good compromise. why can't people see in some point in the future that our children and grandchildren will not be able to pay even the interest on the national debt? we now just spend wildly putting that debt on our children and grandchildren's backs with no attempt to slow down our wild spending. in terms of spending and what this bill means for it, it is steven cruiser who writes this about the name of this legislation, fiscal responsibility act.
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can we all just pause for a moment, he recently wrote, and marvel at the ability of our politicians to give names to bills that describe the opposite of what is really happening? they do it with straight faces, too. i think fiscal responsibility act knocks inflation reduction act out of first place for the most inappropriately named legislation of the biden era. writing about that legislation this week. this is flint, michigan, david, democrat. good morning. caller: good morning, c-span. i am glad that the deal past and i give the credit to president biden. he might be older and people have their doubts, but biden has done more than i can say probably the last six or seven presidents put together in the time that he has been in there. he got a committee together. this deal should have never been held hostage by the republican party.
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the time is now to decide on these bills and not wait and threaten the future of people like me on social security. i still work. people like me who are on social security, though. i think that it's a great deal, and i think the democrats have done a great job. i hear the republican callers calling angry and mad because the republicans have to focus on the debt deal, the debt again. just like you show the picture of the debt thing. that was never important to none of the republicans win trump gave all those tax breaks to the billionaires and millionaires. and when the united states continues to give all this money to the military, probably double what even china spends on it. they don't think about the debt. but all of a sudden all the republican party callers are calling in soul worried about the debt all of a sudden.
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it is so phony. host: in terms of your view on president biden, i imagine that you probably agree with a lot of what david ignatius writes in today's washington post? "president biden this week accomplished what americans elected him to do, govern from the center and make deals that solves problems. progressive democrats don't seem to like that cooperative spirit, a big reason that their candidates keep flailing and failing to become president. biden's critics missed the glaringly obvious fact that he is behaving exactly like he would. the bipartisanship's act, and finally this agreement. the deeper point is, the debt agreement was not capitulation, it was compromise." david ignatius saying that biden is delivering on his most far-fetched pledge, compromise. good morning.
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caller: thank you. a couple of comments. i think that it would have been nice if the leadership would have come out and talk about compromise instead of talking about how they snookered the other side and democrats did all this and we tricked the republicans into voting for this , when everyone agrees that it had to be done. both sides do it, so i just think that if they would come out and talk about compromise more, we did this and they did that, but they want to compromise, that's all i really have to say. host: does the final vote so that -- show that more than what they are saying in the speeches after the vote? 63-36. 63 members in the senate supporting this legislation in the house. it was 314-117. you see the compromise? caller: yeah, that's what i
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mean. they are compromising all the time, but if you listen to them, and even the media, who won, who lost, we all agree that the american people need to win, not which side is winning. host: what you think we will hear from the president at 7:00 p.m.? do you think people say that we won or that bipartisanship won? caller: i think that he will praise the bipartisanship but he won't make it through the speech without trashing the maca republicans or this or that. host: independent and south carolina. we will hear from the president at 7:00 p.m. from the oval office. that legislation is headed to his desk for his signature ahead of the monday deadline for a potential default. this is glenn in stone mountain, georgia, democrat, good morning. caller: good morning, c-span. i have been trying to call y'all -- i have been retired for 10
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years, and i finally got you. host: 10 years you have been calling! i'm sorry about that. caller: since i retired. i have something to say about the debt ceiling. once again, thank god for joe biden, because you have these republicans calling in about social security sort of like they did about the abortion issue. they said, don't worry about it, we are not going to do anything about it. see what they've done with abortion. they will do the same thing with social security if they get the opportunity once they get the numbers. joe biden and the democratic party saved the republicans who are cornered once again to save the social security. so, that is pretty much all i got to say. thank god for joe biden. host: heading out to the west coast, james, san francisco, good morning, democrat. caller: i have a couple of big
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changes for the american doctors who are just raking us. i would like to draft 10% of the doctors into a newly set up american health care corp. let them work one day a week at capped pay. host: any thoughts on the debt limit agreement and what we have been talking about? caller: it would definitely reduce american expenses of working people and retired people, medicare, medicaid. i would draft all of the doctors, 10% of them, except the doctors in teaching institutions. the other thing that i would like to say is that these people are forgetting that the expunging of the irs agent is not just for agents going after tax cheaters, it is also for services and improving the
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software, a lot of the stuff. the agents who go after the cheaters, they collect a lot more than they cost the government. it is a deficit reduction program, and people are talking like it is a deficit increasing program. i don't like it. host: james in california. in terms of what those who oppose the bill didn't like about it, there were several republicans concerned about military spending in cuts to military spending. senator lindsey graham was one who made his feelings known throughout the day yesterday. he ultimately came to an agreement with senate majority leader chuck schumer to move supplemental defense spending bill that could provide more funding for the military later this year. this is senator lindsey graham expressing his concern about the bill before the vote yesterday afternoon. [video clip] sen. graham: i will never, ever
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trust again, because you have an r behind your name that you are going to be the party of ronald reagan. you have to prove that to me. as we go forward, the game will change. why is she asking this to be done? if we don't commit to an early appropriations process, it gets worse for the defense department. the people who wrote this bill, i would not let you buy me a car. the provisions of sequestration, for lack of a better word, continued resolution if we don't do our legislative business increases nondefense spending, decreases defense spending. i thought that we were republicans? who came up with that great idea?
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the top line is inadequate. the cr is devastating. what bothers me the most is that we would put the department of defense in this position. we are playing with the men and women's lives in the military. their ability to defend themselves in some chess game in washington. this is checkers at best. the fact that you would punish the military because we can't do our job as politicians is a pretty sad moment for me. but people in this body, on my side of the aisle, have drafted a bill that would punish the military even more if we fail to do our basic job. that cannot be the way of the future. so, i will insist, i will be
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here until tuesday, and i will make an amendment to avoid default for 90 days, however many days it takes to get this right. i don't want us to default on the debt, but we are not leaving town until we find a way to stop some of this madness. so, you are not going to be able to blame me for default, because i'm ready to raise the debt ceiling right now for 90 days, no strings attached, to give us a chance to stop this insane approach to national security. host: the way that was eventually found was through a later supplemental defense spending bill, as expected, sometime later this year. that was senator graham on the floor yesterday before the vote took place.about 10 minutes left in this first segment of "the washington journal" if you want to join the discussion. republicans, (202) 748-8000. republicans, -- democrats, (202)
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748-8002. independents, (202) 748-8001. text messaging, (202) 748-8003. this is what randy wrote in millington, michigan. he calls into the program once a month. i am relieved and glad that the debt limit bill clear the senate. i would like to thank the real americans who put country before politics, another great example of how americans will try everything else before we do the right thing. the next tweet from tony in boston focuses on a different piece of legislation that was passed in the senate yesterday. not the debt limit bill, but a bill focusing on student loan forgiveness. tony saying that he is happy to see the senate passage of a bill to repeal the vote bribe as he calls it. it is outrageous to forgive loans that many of us paid more on the bill to repeal student loan forgiveness program. it passed the senate on a 52-46 vote yesterday.
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this is the wrapup from the washington times. president biden plans to veto the bill, increasing the likelihood that the fate of the program will be decided in the supreme court. the proposal, as a reminder, passed the house last month. when it came to the senate yesterday, senate republicans received a helping hand from moderate democrats who caucused with the democrats, joe manchin of west virginia, kyrsten sinema of arizona. manchin, hester, and sinema are all up for reelection in 2024. good morning. are you with us? caller: good morning. host: go ahead, sal. it is easiest if you turn your tv down and speak through your phone. caller: i will turn my tv down.
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thank god for a guy like joe biden in the white house. things have made a lot of changes. thank god they passed the bill. joe is a nice president. host: anything else you want to add? caller: yes, i want to thank god for a guy like joe biden. he is doing a wonderful job in the white house. he is -- host: got your point, sal. robert in oregon. good morning. caller: good morning to you. as far as the recent vote, i, everybody, for a number of folks have been praising the biden administration. i would simply say that i think given the incredibly narrow margins that he is dealing with and infractions from various sides, i think that kevin
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mccarthy performed incredibly well in holding the president's feet to the fire when he wasn't in any place where he wanted to do anything other than have a clean bill. this is called democracy. this is called the art of compromise. i think kevin mccarthy is done, in my view, far better than a number of folks thought he would, especially with the narrow margin he is dealing with. i am glad that we got past this. i think there is incredible improvements to not be in this place in the future. i think it was rather predictable that there would be an agreement arrived at, but i
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think -- i give great kudos to the speaker. host: in the call and in the wall street journal today, "kevin mccarthy earned his speakership here." she ends the column, "does the speaker still face rough seas ahead? you bet. we will have to do this all over again for other must pass bills and it may not turn out as well, but at least he has a formula. this success shows it is possible to unify and the power that comes from that unity." the potomac watch column in today's washington journal. round rock, texas. good morning. caller: good morning. i just wanted to point out that it is starting to look more and more like this is a performance, like the previous caller said. not just from mccarthy but from
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the democrats. they could have easily passed a clean bill, but they had to get the defense budget raised. the defense budget has gone up $200 billion in the last six years. it is nearing one trillion dollars. no one is even questioning this. joe biden still owes all of us $600 because they were afraid that the recovery bill would be close to one trillion dollars. when it comes to the military, the bullets and the bombs, things that people cannot eat or live in, no one bats an eye. i think it's a performance. they are all bought and paid for and is pretty disappointing. host: when you talk about $600, you're talking about not having another round of stimulus checks? caller: exactly. he campaigned on $2000. the bill got so close to $1 trillion that they started clutching their pearls and backtracking. and now they owe american $600
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and are kicking people off of benefits with the new bill. when it comes to the military, something that has no tangible value to your average american, they make us scrap over it. it is pretty disappointing. host: an independent like yourself who feels this way, who are you to vote for an the 2024 election? caller: go walk down the street in america and ask anybody if they would rather us by bullets or provide for americans? it is not just independents. republicans and democrats feel the same way. this is unnecessary money we are spending. when it comes to options as far as presidential candidates, unfortunately, we are pretty pigeonholed, man. host: anyone out there for you in 2024 right now? caller: there is one guy who said -- he hopes president biden doesn't get on tv today and -- -- and bash maga republicans.
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they deserve no quarter. if there is a maga republican, i will have to vote for the democrat. host: two hours left in the program, but in this segment we will talk about last night's vote. (202) 748-8001 republicans. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independent,s (202) 748-8002. the vote took place in the senate just before 11:00 p.m. when the final vote took lace. if you want to watch the voting you can do so on our website at c-span.org. the final numbers, 63 total senators supporting the compromised legislation, 36 opposed. those numbers made up of 44 democrats voting yes and 17 republicans voting yes, and two independents. four democrats voted no, 40 one
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democrats voted no. bernie sanders voted no on the legislation. roseann, wisconsin rapids, democrat. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. i just wanted to say, how did we get to where we are right now with these trillions of dollars that we owe? a trillion dollars on the afghan war -- $8 trillion on the afghan war. $8 trillion that president trump incurred in his administration. another $3 trillion for the iraq war. putting it all together and we are still $9 billion of undercount -- of unaccounted for money in those foreign wars. what was it about? oil. then we talk about drilling in this country.
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it. the idea of drilling in this country, it won't help the american people, it will help the oil industry. what i'm saying is, we are in this huge debt now because we are not going to war for democracy. we are going to war for crude and oi purposesl for our country. who is benefiting? big oil. host: have you been to the cost of war project out of the boston institute of brown university? have you checked out their website? caller: i have not. host: it is called the cost of war project, and they do a lot of what you're talking about. breaking down the cost, human and dollar cost of various wars since 9/11. the united states has spent some $8 trillion on wars post 9/11. watson. brown.edu.
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and you can google the cost of war project. i think that you would be interested. caller: i have one additional comment. george bush came out and he said he wasn't interested in getting osama bin laden. that's why we supposedly went over there. it jumped into the iraq war. when it comes to politics in general, i am a democrat because i think they care a little more about working-class. yet they all voted for this incredible amount of money spent on these wars. host: that's roseann in wisconsin, this is new york, republican. caller: good morning. i have a few things to say. this war in ukraine we are
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supporting it. i believe it was $3 billion last week that was missing from the pentagon. no one is talking about what's happening with their borders. we have an invasion of 180 different countries. i'm from new york, i lived through 9/11. how about the 60,000 tons of explosives that went off a train that just disappeared coming from or going to california that none of our elected officials are speaking about? the same day that happened, our elected officials were issued satellite phones. host: any thoughts on the debt limit agreement? caller: yes, it's all smoke and mirrors. everybody is talking about mega republicans whatever that is, i don't even know. but we have democrats want to
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mutilate our children. host: we will go to lenny in new jersey come a democrat, good morning. caller: hi, good morning. am i on the air? host: you are, what are your thoughts on the debt ceiling. caller: my concern is that government is getting a little too big. i think our forefathers back in the day, i don't think envision government to be this big. i found out from the previous callers, people that rely on the government for services were the ones that are mostly democrats. the democrats use that as leverage to keep their power. i think government, just like
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you and me, we all have budgets and we all spend within reasonable limits. the ones that say the government of our country ignores that and how does that set an example for you and me to say government doesn't care about spending, why should i care? it's set at the top and when the people at the top disrespect spending, it kind of filters through to the people that also live in that country because they see that as an example. if government is responsible, it reflects back on the people that they should do the right thing. host: when was the last time government was responsible in your mind? caller: i don't know. in regards to what? spending? host: in regards to spending. caller: in regards to spending, i don't know. when was the last time we had a
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supposedly balanced budget, 20 or 30 years ago? host: now, a conference hosted by the truman center in washington, d.c. where we will hear from political commentator rachel maddow and u.s. ambassador to the you in linda thomas-greenfield. they will be discussing issues facing america today. you are watching live coverage on c-span.
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>> live on c-span awaiting for remarks at the truman center conference in washington, d.c. hearing from msnbc host rachel maddow on issues facing america today as part of the truman center series hosting leaders in government, policy, and national security sectors.
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and all the papers, nbc, all those places do not say a word about it. it is always trump, trump, trump. not one thing about biden. he is corrupt.

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