transitioning of young children. also, the presidential records act. when the one caller talked about, why didn't the fbi take all the boxes when they went into mar-a-lago, but you are focusing on the word raid instead of answering the question? also, the socks document. the socks case with president clinton, and the lawyer that lost on that had a article in the wall street journal a couple of days ago. not siding with, but taking the point of view that president trump did have a right to those documents. that is all i have to say. thank you for taking my call again. host:

look like this, it looks like this. where americans can see democracy at work, get informed straight from the source on c-span. unfiltered, unbiased, word for word from the nation's capital to wherever you are it is the opinion that matters the most, is your own. this is what democracy looks like. "washington journal," continues. host: a conversation on lgbtq rights with carl charles with lambda legal just to remind the viewers what their mission is? guest: lambda legal is the oldest and largest lgbtq advocacy group.

seeking full rights for lesbians, gay men, bisexuals and transgendered people. we celebrate our 50th anniversary this year. host: how many cases are you involved in and how are you funded? guest: we are involved in dozens of cases both as lead counsel and amicus. it's exclusively funded through charitable contributions of people who support our missions. host: what are two of the cases that you see right now that could impact lgbt americans? guest: critical cases are representing transgender people in a variety of settings. most notably in opposition to the bands on gender affirming care for adolescents across several states. primarily, in tennessee, oklahoma and in florida.

host: explain what that means, gender affirming care? what he mean by the term? guest: that refers to medically necessary, safe, effective care for transgender people that aids them in their ability to live as their authentic selves. this has been supported by every major medical association across united states. it has been in use for almost a century contrary to the talking points. it has been a long time -- been around for a long time and his help transgender people live happy lives for many years. host: who decides whether it is medically necessary? guest: a team of medical professionals. doctors, endocrinologists, psychiatrists, they evaluate if an intervention is necessary and

even more so if that person is an adolescent. host: when you talk about the state laws banning gender affirming care for minors, this is the map. we will show this from the human rights campaign. the states and red, have laws or policies banning gender affirming care that have passed. the states an orange are the states that are considering laws when it comes to banning gender affirming care. florida is one of the states in red on the map. recently they passed one of these bills and it was ron desantis who spoke about that legislation as he signed it into law. i want to play one minute and a half of what he had to say when signing it. [video clip] >> you have a movement amongst rogue elements of the medical establishment to do things, the

mutilation of minors. they are trying to do sex change operations on minors. giving them things like puberty blockers that are irreversible and that is not based on science. that is not based on evidence. you have countries that have tried to do this in europe and they recognize this was very harmful and now they don't know do it. in the united states, you have an ideologically charged small group of folks within medicine that are pushing these types of procedures on minors. we think that is wrong. in florida, we took action so no physician that does those procedures will keep their medical license. so that is gone if you do this which is great.

but when we do the sb 254 this will permanently outlaw the mutilation of minors. it will outlaw the surgical procedures and puberty blockers and require any adults receiving these surgeries to be informed about the irreversible nature and the dangers of these procedures. host: ron desantis last month. i wanted to give you a chance to respond to that clip. guest: he is lying. he is making a number of false statements in his description of the medical community's acceptance and across the board wide acceptance of treatment of gender dysmorphia with gender affirming care. it's not the rogue element it's

the entire medical profession. is telling that the governor of florida in an unprecedented fashion will reference what countries outside the united states are doing. i would be shocked if another study where the governor of any state would care what any other country is doing. republican politicians notoriously dismiss what other countries are doing when it comes to holding up civil rights. it's fascinating that he is now aware of what other countries are doing and he is misrepresenting the facts. the facts are that gender affirming medical care is supported by every major medical association in the united states. there are standards of care that practitioners and clinicians follow for the treatment. no one is mutilating minors, that's a misrepresentation and falsehood.

children are not ever treated with medical intervention. i use adolescent on purpose because those are the only young people for whom medical interventions are even considered. once again, the governor as many republicans are doing in 2023 are using the specter of child mutilation, not a true and accurate they in any stretch of the understanding to drum up outrage into prey upon people's ignorance and lack of understanding about transgender people. over 70% no a lesbian or gay man and only one in five people think they know a trans person. we have a real gap in understanding that needs to be addressed and hateful, ignorant laws like ones by ron desantis

are not helping bridge that gap. host: let me give the phone numbers to call in to speak to carl charles for democrats (202) 748-8000, for republicans (202) 748-8001, for independents (202) 748-8002 and for those who identify as lgbtq (202) 748-8003 . the acceptance in the medical community, the washington post about the american college of pediatricians which has gained outside influence in these fights. it has successfully lobbied since 2021 for laws to band gender affirming care. what should they know about the american college of pediatricians? guest: that is a junk science group used to bolster and write

papers for our opponents the alliance defending freedom. they created themselves solely to oppose any lgbtq equality, not just trans equality. you can find articles on their website talking about the harms of same-sex relationships to children and they parrot a lot of anti-lgbtq talking points that track in lack of acceptance rooted in religious beliefs. people are entitled to their religious beliefs but they are not entitled to discriminate based on those beliefs. the american college of pediatricians is a french medical organization. when i say wide acceptance i'm talking about the american medical association, the

american academy of pediatrics, the endocrine society. i am talking about well-established decades-old medical organizations that are reputable and have established procedures and protocols for evaluating medical interventions and supporting clinicians. not groups that are formed solely to oppose and repress civil rights of lgbtq people. host: we will start with chris in edmond, oklahoma, and independent. caller: >> we will take you to connecticut where president biden will be talking to the safer communities at summit. you're watching live coverage on c-span. >> -- a 2023 graduate from washington university and a survivor of the marjorie's mass shooting and parkland, florida. on valentine's day in