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. the secretary of state yesterday meeting with his chinese counterparts for 7.5 hours in china. we are expecting the secretary of state will hold a news conference to wrap up the visit this morning. if he does, we will bring you some of that. we talked to you this morning about the biden administration's handling of china. do you approve or disapprove, and tell us why. let's listen to what the president had to say on saturday morning before he left for his first political event. he was asked by a reporter about the secretary of state's visit to china. >> can secretary blinken ease tensions with china? pres. biden: look, china has -- unrelated to the united states.

it is not so much that it was shot down but i don't think the leadership knew what it was and what was in it and what was going on. i think it was more embarrassing than intentional. i'm hoping that over the next several months i will be meeting with xi jinping again and talking about the differences we have, but also how we can get along. host: president biden on saturday. this is from reuters, the chinese president haley progress as he meets with secretary blinken during a rare visit to china. the first by a top u.s. diplomat in five years. we want to know, what do you think of the biden policies toward china? you approve or disapprove deco

what was on the agenda for the secretary of state visit. reestablishi hh-level diplomacy, talk about close calls with chinese naval ships around taiwan and other places in asia, chinese efforts to establish military bases in asia, africa and the middle east and china's support for russia in the war on ukraine. as well as shared interes, such as climate change, economic stability and the secretary of state expected to bring up american detainees in china. finally, limiting the exports of substances used to make fentanyl. this was the agenda. they decided whath wanted to talk about, military aid, taiwan, research of the united stat put on manufacturin equipment with the -- which the

chinese sake set tm ck years when it comes to technological develop. those rtrtions. and security ties with japan, south korea, the philippines, australia and india. this is from the new york times, what the sides wanted to talk about during this visit by the secretary of state. john in brooklyn, new york. do you approve of the strategy toward china -- you approve of the strategy, tell us why. guest: president biden has a lot of experience and knows how the government works and runs. he has knowledge. for the last 30 or 40 years, we

have made them do a lot of stuff. it is difficult to the way the economy is tied together, trying to exit most of our stuff. that has got to be reversed. but the size of the world economy, the way it is tied together, it is not easy. trump tried to do it and put sanctions on china and china reversed it. he tried to say china did not how to do it. host: finish up your thought. guest: biden is taking his time and he doesn't want to start a third world war. he is bringing our jobs back home, it is a process. you've got to give it time for

them experiencing pro-government. i think he is doing a good job and people should get behind them. guest: -- (202) 748-8000 -- host: john mentioned bringing production of semiconductor chips into the u.s., a lesson learned from the pandemic. you approve or disapprove about? what areas do think that by demonstration needs to focus on with china? we want to hear from you. more than half of americans lacked confidence in biden's ability to deal with china -- deal effectively with china, the headline from a pole. eric in los angeles, you disapprove. good morning. guest: thank you for taking my call. i disapprove of just about everything joe biden doing. i think he is corrupt. i think he is guilty of treason

and has taken money from china and compromised the security of the country. host: in los angeles. the previous caller mentioned the trump administration. -- was on spit -- a state of the nation. here what he had to say about the status with our relationship in china. >> it was publicly disclosed that china has set up and rebuild part of its listening facilities located in nearby cuba. he acknowledged that. a lot of people see something like out and think of the old cold war. how different is this? >> it is worse. it is a more difficult problem set. because of the way our economies are connected. it is based on flawed

assumptions of the intentions of the chinese coming as party. that is what we got wrong. we thought we could determine the behavior of the party by the way we engage them. but they had aspirations far beyond any kind of reaction to what we do. and china wants to establish itself at the center. guest: what are the key things you are watching for out of this meeting deco host: -- >> recognition on our part that they need to change their behavior. there is a tendency to think a better relationship is the end, but we are going to make concession after concession for a better relationship -- the outcome could be diplomatic achievement, but a political disaster. host: the former national security advisor during the

trumpet meditation on china. do you share his concerns and thoughts? what is your take on the biden administration's handling of china? do you approve or disapprove? antony blinken holding a news conference right now at the end of a two date visit from beijing. the first by a top diplomat in the united states in five years. let's go to mazzulla, montana. you approve. good morning. guest: i approve. you wanted to look at things -- both sides are doing what they can. but we have the strength to go on. china is just a country, more state capitalist than -- i think

they keep doing what he can. biden is doing what he can, but he is going to do what he is going to do because of capitalism. china is not a threat but we are going to make it a threat because of this and that. you have to have borders. host: when you say china is not a threat, want your reaction to the pure research poll that we cited. unfavorable of years of china held by americans were already at a new high last year following the russian invasion according to a poll -- 82% of those surveyed had an unfavorable view of china, compared with 76% year before. the highest since 2005. why do you think that is? guest: because in the american

media, we have been trained to hate nations outside of our own. we have to look at our interests. or there's solidarity with the poor and working folks of russia and ukraine who did not want to go to war. in his their people, all for the -- that is what i think. have a good day. host: it's going to wear the secretary of state into new blinken is holding a news conference and listen in. sec. blinken: we benefit when there is growth in other countries, especially one of the world's largest economies like china. it would not be in our interest to seek -- as i mentioned and you heard secretary yellen talking to congress a few days ago, it would be disastrous. however, what is key to our interest is making sure that specific technologies that china

is using to advance the opaque nuclear weapons programs, build hypersonic missiles, use technology that may have oppressive purposes, it is not our job to provide that technology to china. i've also made that clear. the actions that we have already taken and we will continue to take are narrowly focused, carefully tailored to advance and protect our national security. it's an important distinction. we're not the only ones doing that. the phrase of the day, do you risk not decouple, was put forward by the president of the european commission. it reflects what many countries

are saying. both the importance of sustaining economic relations, trade investments in china, it also because of concerns about some of the things china is doing with technology that is getting to them. i spent some time making sure we are clear about what we are doing and what we are not doing. with regard to legal aid to russia for use in ukraine, we and other countries have received assurances from china that we will not provide assistance to russia to use in ukraine. we appreciate that and we have not seen any countries appreciate that. what we do have concerns about our chinese firms, companies that may be providing technology that russia can use to advance aggression in ukraine.

the chinese government needs to be vote -- vigilant about that. next question. >> thank you. i have a question about south africa in the last year china has been given -- breaks. many people see it this way. there are reasons for people to think that, there are claims that south africa is giving vince russia. but china -- weapons to russia. but china says there already countries lining up. and my president has said that -- has emphasized the dominance

of the dollar the world economy. ha the question is how does the united states see this? sec. blinken: as a general proposition, we have launched the proposition that country should be able to freely associate with other countries and any group that they want. something we strongly stand for and have detected for a long time. we are deeply engaged with leading members. this week, prime minister modi will be having a statement said. and we had a very constructive meeting with president biden. we are engaged across the board with members who will continue to do that. host: secretary of state antony

blinken wrapping up his two date visit to china with a news conference. we will monitor that this morning and bring you any other news that we -- he makes from that news conference. focusing on the visit to china, the first by a u.s. diplomat in five years, what do you think about the handling of u.s. china relations? approve or disapprove? nick approves in royal oak, michigan. good morning. guest: yes, i approve. i have good experience. i lived in china for 10 years right up to the pandemic. i met both of the ambassadors, the council general that was part of the american chamber of commerce in shanghai for years, so a unique perspective.

a lot of people in america need to understand that there is no decoupling. there is no possible way for china and america to not get along. and it comes down to these rare earth minerals. the mountains in tibet, the himalayan mountains, they have all of these metals that go into our cell phones and our electronics. they control 80% of the world supply and that is not changing in our lifetimes. host: many people point to that issue as the reason for their investment in africa as well. guest: yes, but you have to

understand how small of a percentage dust cobalt in uganda, those things there. but that might be one or 2% of the world supply. america and the west is the market for those. so they would be worthless without our purchasing of the electronics that those go in. but we cannot physically create an iphone without thos minerals. host: y just heard the secretary of state talking about restricting certain technology when it comes to hypersonic weapons, nuclear weapons. but he also said any technology that could be -- i think he said oppressive was the word to america. what were you thinking? guest: host: -- guest: it is about reciprocity.

i was unable to access facebook, google, those things, basic fairness. we should not allow for example tiktok to be owned by bytedance in beijing. we should force that sale to an american company. it is our strategic national interest -- there is a steeper -- by the dutch, and the chinese want to buy this to make the most advanced chips and we are researching that. we are saying it is our technology, you are trying to steal it every day. not that america doesn't do the same thing. when i hear certain people call the show and say things like joe

biden is a communist, they need to realize how unbelievably free this country is. because there is no rule of law. i always called it rule by law. it is a false equivalent. they can make the rules up as they go. and they do. because it is a single party in control of all of these people. to what you just said, of course we need to not just let them or any adversaries have our most lethal and advanced technology. host: you have china -- u.s. china relations have been --

differences in desk security concerns. owned by bytedance, more than twice as many americans support the u.s. government banning tiktok. china already blocked facebook and google. good morning, it is your turn. guest: good morning. i'm interested in saying they do take tiktok out of our communities. it is a chinese sponsor thing. we should not give into the chinese, especially with the attacks on our ships. those weather balloons, they ought to be shut down. we ought to take more aggressive stance. i know i'm extreme and people

agree with me. i think they should take away china's influence in the united states. not that we become isolationist but that we just say no. we are supposed to be the number one power in the world and we don't react to anything. certainly we might cause a war, but we are fighting wars everywhere, why not make it a permanent thing? host: you said be more aggressive. do you agree with this visit by the secretary of state? should he have gone? guest: i think he should have gone with a sterner commitment rather than a piece objective. he should've said look, if you come near our ships and shoot them, if you cross over turbulence they're going to shoot them. i about aggressive. host: thank you, in connecticut.

must listen to a congressman who disagreed with this visit to china by the secretary of state. telling people this medication with china is old thinking. >> sec. should not be on this trip. i don't know what more they are doing in terms of violating international law. for us to take a stand and not send our secretary of state and defense secretary last week on bended knee that plays into chinese propaganda. but what this is all about is the major establishment institutions that the democrats care the most about. the corporations on wall street, academia, they were just desperate to keep the status quo so they can keep making money even as we see the most serious -- old up and modern american

history. and as he ramps up his rhetoric about replacing and defeating the united states and the decline of democracy and the ascendancy of the socialism with chinese characteristics. but that'll thinking, if we talk enough, sit at the table enough, our adversaries will do so in kind and be nice as well. host: a republican congressman, michael waltz talking about this chip -- trip made to china by the secretary of state. you can see what he says is aggression toward the u.s.. do you approve or disapprove of president biden's handling of china? in ohio, you disapprove. tell us why. guest: good morning. i love your show and i can't stand it when people say that you are biased because you're

not. everybody gets a voice. i definitely disapprove. but i've actually disapproved of all previous administration's. i am antiwar. i recommend everybody to follow a great organization for peace. it is about american hegemony and i'm sick of people calling joe biden and trump communists. they don't know what economist is. i am sick of hearing communist china. we have demonized china, russia, anyone who doesn't agree and go along with the american capitalist ride. that is what it is all about. i just want peace. when nancy pelosi went to taiwan, that was a mistake. that was saber rattling.

we need negotiations and everybody needs to get their big girl pants on and their big oil pants on and stop this nonsense. we are suffering, people are dying needlessly. i just want peace. host: do you agree then that the secretary of state made this attempt to call tensions with china by going to beijing? guest: maybe. i saw a couple of clips of him, he is a warmonger. antony blinken is a warmonger. that is all there is to it. i did -- i think he had a tone that maybe we could negotiate. but we can't go into their territory and think they relied on china and we are in their territory was on the goes wrong. i can't believe the american

people fall for this. host: what about chinese aggression toward taiwan? is that worth defending? guest: i do't think they are beg aggressive. i think that is propaganda. i talked to someone who was in there recently. taiwan does not want a war and china does not want a war. it is propaganda and i'm not buying it. i hope the american people and everybody in the world will wake up and see what is going on here. taiwan doesn't want to go to war with china and china does not want to go to war with taiwan. that is just propaganda. host: all right. lori in ohio. george in massachusetts, do you approve? guest: good morning. mi on the air? host: you are. guest: today's juneteenth, and we should be talking about

american history. host: we will. guest: we should not be known against -- with this topic, it is interesting but it should be put off for another day. you have enough time to speak about juneteenth and the people that happened to black people in this country. host: we are going to do that, the last half of the show we will have open forum where people can talk about juneteenth. thank you for the reminder. i should have brought that up before now. that is what we will talk about the last half of today's washington journal. we have a couple of conversations with some guests. we hope you will stay with us this morning through 10:00 a.m. anthony in detroit disapproves of the handling toward china. go ahead. guest: good morning. i disapprove of their entire foreign policy agenda. i don't think blinken is a

diplomat, he is an anti-diplomat. he does not really spread peace. i thought he was supposed to visit china a few months ago but maybe he got disinvited. i'm looking on twitter and online and i see pictures of him -- he did not get a red carpet or military honors. they do not even have the u.s. flag when he shook hands with the foreign minister. china is showing blinken the lack of respect that they deserve. it is funny, they say china virus. not necessarily blinken, but the right wing says china virus. as far as i'm concerned, that whole thing is the national institutes of health. not china. host: echoing the headline in the washington times. no pomp, only circumstance for blinken visit. he received a chilly welcome upon arrival to china and photo

and video posted to social media appeared to show the top diplomat being greeted by relatively lower ranking chinese diplomats. that paled in comparison to the last red carpet ceremony that french president emmanuel macron received when he visited china in april. it is partially due to his status as head of state. but it also -- boat message to washington to the minimalist welcome. in the washington times this morning. patrick in san francisco, you approve. guest: yes, i do. thank you for having on the show. it is great. this diplomacy is about -- russia had on the table -- the

chinese diplomats go on and on and they give a massive speech and reiterated the position. we should back up our positions. i understand everything -- i don't tend to understand every thing there is going on. we don't know exactly what is going on behind the scenes. so far, the results are good. it is something we all know about. on the other hand, i think the idea is to hold our position and of the same time keep -- keep something. host: hold our position on taiwan as well? guest: yes. we purposefully not recognize

taiwan. their right to exist. it is not all about ukraine. china does have a bigger claim on taiwan then rush on ukraine. on the other hand, the japanese held -- before world war ii. it is not up to those dictators. world leaders, you're supposed to help people come to a conclusion. host: should bpa leader on defending democracy? -- should we be a leader on defending democracy? guest: absolutely. there are ways to do that and military is not the only way. the diplomacy and -- they are different branches of government. diplomacy is what happens behind the scenes. trump was crazy. host: so you disagree with u.s.

military aid to taiwan? guest: no. we should continue giving it. because we maintain the status quo. host: patrick, thank you for getting up early. back to the washington times. u.s. china -- over the islands democracy of taiwan, which beijing views as part of sovereign china. it has vowed to come under chinese control using force if necessary. tom from ohio, disapproving. guest: i have not talked to you and probably a year. anyway, i wanted to call and i want you to remember some of my calls. i was morning in 2017, 2018 that china's mission statement is

world domination. this is not a joke. you've got to wake up. they are now in four south american countries, putting aircraft and missiles in south america. we are going to be surrounded. now they are in cuba. they have chinese police stations in america. they are getting all set up to take it over. this is my wake-up call. if you give me a moment to say what i wanted to say, to all americans. i want to change the narrative and expose joe biden as the first illegitimate president. 17% of biden voters said they would not have voted for joe if they had known the truth about hunter's laptop. host: are you done? guest: almost.

he crept to the government and interfered with the 2020 election. he used treason, he is illegitimate. host: this morning we are going to continue until 8:00 eastern time talking about the biden administration's handling of china. do you approve or disapprove? moments ago, secretary of state antony blinken wrapped up his visit to beijing. the first top diplomat to do so in five years. he was supposed to do so a few months ago but the alleged spy balloon by china that came over the united states, when that happened, after that, the administration decided to scrap visit. now the secretary of state met with his counterpart yesterday in beijing. this morning he did visit with the president of china, xi jinping.

you can see they met at the table and the reporters were allowed to capture the beginning of the meeting and then it happened behind closed doors. the secretary of state finished his news conference and you will be able to find out later on c-span.org. while we wait for more of your calls to come in this morning, as we mentioned a moment ago, today is juneteenth. when president abraham lincoln issued the emancipation proclamation on january 1, 1863, to free enslaved african americans, it took time for war to spread. even though the emancipation proclamation was made effective that year through the 13th amendment, it could not be enforced in secessionist states still under confederate control. it was not until more than two years later, june 19, 1865 that major general gordon granger

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