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i want to show you the newspapers from california about president biden's trip to the bay area to talk about his record on climate change. i want to read a little bit about what was reported in "the mercury news." biden touts record at stops in the bay area. there was the greeting from the democratic governor and local congresswoman at the steps of air force one in mountain view. there was the last speech to tout $6 million in funding for climate projects.
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there were two fundraisers with the wealthiest donors for his reelection campaign. president joe biden was everywhere in silicon valley on monday. that is from "the mercury news." this has made front pages in many of the papers in california. president biden promoted a $600 million new investment in climate change. these are some recent pollings from cbs news and ugov about climate change. under the headline, who prioritizes climate change and who does not? here is what the article says. as has been the case for years, views on climate change are marked by stark political division. democrats and liberals continues
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to see the issue as more urgent while republicans and conservatives do not. republicans also view addressing climate change as having a negative impact economically. 2-1 more republicans see efforts to reduce climate change as something that would hurt the economy rather than help it. the question is, climate change should be addressed right now or the next few years? 91% of democrats agree. 64% of independents agree. but only 44% of republicans agree with the statement climate change should be addressed right now or in the next few years. we want to hear from you this morning. what are your views on climate change? republicans (202)-748-8001,
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democrats (202)-748-8000, independents (202)-748-8002. before we get to your calls let's look at president biden's remarks from california yesterday where he addresses what he says is the extent of damage caused by climate change. [video clip] pres. biden: i have toured many sites across the country that show climate change is the existential threat to humanity. in california, you and i stood together with first responders near monterey bay after touring the damage that was done by the devastating storms and killed 21 people. that comes on the heels of the worst droughts in california and a millennium.
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wildfire devastation has burned more acreage on the ground than square mileage in the state of maryland. devastating. there has been historic tornadoes and flooding in the midwest and southeast. last week across the east coast and midwest we saw what you have seen in california -- millions of americans sheltering indoors. the air not safe to breathe. orange hayes covering the sky -- haze covering the sky. we are sharing cutting edge technology that is already used in california to detect early fires and helping canada. the impacts we are seeing in climate change are only going to get more frequent and ferocious and costly. last year alone natural disasters in america because
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$165 billion in damage. but the worst of the impacts are not inevitable. my administration is doing all we can to recover and build so we can prepare and adapt. host: that was president biden yesterday in california talking about what he says is the impact of climate change. we want to hear from you this morning. first up, alan in brooklyn, new york on the democratic line. caller: thank you for the opportunity. i think the major problem we have is basic words are not understood properly to grasp the meaning of climate change. it is not a matter of complex regulations. simple words like "person" and
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"economy" are misunderstood. economy is used by the media in a way that is code for what is the best interest for voters in the next few months or years? it does not generally encompass the welfare of the country over the lifetime of the country, including grandchildren. i think that distorts things because people are willing to say things that are good for the economy are valuable and we should do them, but when they are hiding the fact the economy is used as a surrogate for short-term interests of the living and leaving out the interests of the unborn and children, there's a big problem. another thing is the constitution guaranteeing under the due process clause the notetaking of life, liberty, or property without due process from any person. "person" did not include the interest of future voters. until we have something like a
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generational rights amendment that recognizes the rights of future persons when they are affected by current voters destroying or damaging fundamental resources, like the atmosphere, then voters are always going to vote for the short-term economic interests before they do something that will require present sacrifice to the benefit of people who are going to be here in decades or centuries. host: ok. got your point. we are going to move on to joseph. joseph is in mechanicsville, virginia, republican line. caller: how are you doing? love your show. kamala harris, everything is a joke to her. she cannot stop laughing, like she is weed. host: we are talking about climate change.
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any thoughts on that? caller: i have been to an antarctica and the penguins are doing fine. host: ted is calling from connecticut, independent line. caller: good morning. i would like to know how many cars, trucks, factories were on earth during the ice age? what melted all of the ice? i think we are on the wrong path. we better use what we have better than what we have been using. host: let's go to iowa where diane is calling on the democrat line. caller: i do believe we need to
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change the climate. we are sweltering. i do not care if you are rich or poor, we are sweltering. i went to the grocery store yesterday and i am diabetic. what do i do with my plastic? i cannot take it to the recycling. they tell me to put it into, you know, your laundry container. and this plastic stuff we get around our bottles of water. i feel bad this is going to go into a landfill somewhere. it is the little things i should be doing and i do not know how to do it, you know? even our little city does not know what we need to do when we take it to the recycling the
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first and third saturdays. it was a pleasure to talk to you and have a good day. host: our next caller is tim in north dakota, republican line. caller: it is sweltering here now. that blazing western sun coming down on my skin and a couple of months ago it was -25 below zero. i have always loved this topic. i grew up in pennsylvania in the topography of a little town called rock hill. you can see the boulders that the early farmers had to deal with that were pushed back and forth through the glacial periods. the last glacial period ended 9000, 10,000 years ago and i do
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not know what caused that warming and caused the oceans to rise several hundred feet. and then we had the little optimum from 900 bc to 1200 ad. and then there was the little ice age that started 1200 ad. that caused desolation and the deaths of millions because of weather patterns that were endless cold rain, warfare, migration. climate has always caused migration, warfare throughout human history. people make these sweeping generalizations -- like the last lady from iowa. we have to do something about this. but nobody ever tells me the formula or the mechanics behind bending the earth's temperature to our will. how do we make it cool down? drive more electric cars and the
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earth will behave. weather patterns will begin to calm down. there is no evidence of that. it is the same medieval thinking like throwing a virgin into a volcano or the american indians dancing to bring about the r ains. you cannot alter the earth's weather patterns. we cannot secure the border, we cannot balance a checkbook, we cannot win the weather more. it is a way of feeling like you have power when you do not. host: we are going to move on to gregory in sherman oaks, california, democratic line. caller: hello. it is amazing the contortions some people are going through trying to explain away the civil fact that the continued burning of fossil fuels in the intense
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number that we are burning them is filling the atmosphere with heat trapping gases. it is fairly simple physics figured out in the 19th century. what we are going to do is make it harder to grow food, harder to stay well, harder to make our electrical systems keep running. look at texas. we have got extreme weather like never before in multiple places around the world. the people making the ridiculous -- talk about pseudo-religion. the man before me, that is pseudo-religion. these people are avoiding the fact that the current generation of people in the rich countries that have the most impact on the world and on all sorts of things, including how fast we heat the atmosphere, this generation has a power few generations have had. if we can figure out a way to
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rein in our appetites for all sorts of things that are destroying the environment -- and you can see it, you can feel it -- if we can start the change in the way we generate energy and pursue our pressures objective in life. we are trying to avoid the worst possible outcomes of climate change and global heating. enough of this global warming. we need to talk about it as it is. it is climate destabilization and the effects for decades or centuries to come are going to be horrific. we the people of this time in the rich nations have the power to bend this curve of increasing carbon concentrations back. we can do it. host: all right.
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let's go to amsterdam, new york. john is on the republican line. caller: good morning. i signed up for solar and i have been trying to keep up with what is going on. i think it is a good thing. but if new york state can have the same type of weather as florida, i am all for it. i think we are way behind the government. i hear 2030. we are not going to be able to afford these electric vehicles. we are not going to be able to have these geothermal heat pumps. they do away with the natural gas and other things -- we are not ready for that. you have got to have more of a choice. i went to some meetings on this, on climate change, and i think some people were going over and they were mad because of solar
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panels being put on people's homes. i think they do not understand but i think that is going to be a good thing. we have got to start using the sun and wind power. i feel bad for the birds with the wind turbines, but maybe they can make them differently. we rely too much on china which is not a good thing. we have got to start doing things ourselves and we have got to start building things ourselves and get ready for this. i do not see any problem out in washington when they turn around and worry about climate change. they are not going through the winters we have had over the years. it is not so bad in new york state anymore as far as the winters are concerned. host: all right, john. let's go to the independent line. ted is calling from boston. caller: good morning. i don't know where to begin.
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it is bad in new york, to that last caller, when there is no real winter. [phone ringing] host: ted, did we lose you? will lost ted -- we lost ted. i want to bring up the comments we are receiving on facebook in response to our question, what are your thoughts about climate change? albert writes, i think president biden is doing an amazing job listen to the scientists. but i think you do not have to be a scientist to know our climate is in big trouble. rich says, it is the government's new religion -- anything to full of people. steve says, climate has always been changing. the earth revolves around the sun on an axis. the sun has gravitational pull
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on the earth. the earth will someday be close to the sun and everything on earth will die. man has nothing to do with that fact. debbie alice says, if you do not believe the world's climate is changing due to human, misuse you have been living under a rock. i do not know if we can turn it around but we must try for the sake of future generation. let's listen to more from president biden in california yesterday discussing new initiatives to combat climate change. [video clip] pres. biden: i am here today to announce we are putting our investment to work. starting tomorrow the department of commerce will launch the first and largest competitive climate resilience to provide
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$600 million to coastal and great lakes communities to protect against the impacts of climate change from sea level rise, flooding, and storm surge. we are investing in people and places that have been hit the hardest but are also on the front lines of leading us forward. the department of energy is going to announce it is investing more than $2 billion to modernize our electric grid to be more resilient, including over $67 million in california. that can help ensure our electric grid is stronger, that the lights and air conditioning and admit stay on during heat waves and storms, so the lights can stay on in hospitals and nursing facilities. later this year we are hosting the first ever white house summit that convenes local, state, tribal, and territory leaders focused on climate resilience. it will include a roadmap for
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how these historic actions will build more climate resilient communities across america. saving lives and providing peace of mind. this is how we are going to meet the moment. host: that was president biden yesterday in california talking about initiatives to address climate change. we want to hear more from you. what are your views of climate change? republicans, we want you to call us at (202)-748-8001. democrats, your line is (202)-748-8000. an independents, call us at (202)-748-8002. before we get to more of your calls i want to go back to this cbs news survey about opinions on climate change. it says the top reasons selected regarding -- this is -- a lot of
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people felt it does not need to be addressed right away. cbs writes says, there are more pressing issues right now and the effects of climate change is exaggerated. for most americans, we know that pocketbook issues like the economy and inflation rank as top priorities ahead of climate change. a smaller majority say, "there is nothing we can do about climate change." that is cited among older people in particular. when you go down to the chart with the top reasons 79% of people had responded that climate change does not have to be addressed right away. 79% said it was more pressing issues.
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74% says it was the effect of climate change is exaggerated. 56% responded nothing we can do about it right now. i will read a little bit more about this. it says this group does not see economic benefit in reducing climate change. most of them see such efforts as something that would hurt rather than help the economy. in response to the questions about the economy, 41% said addressing climate change would help the economy. 31% said it would hurt the economy. 28% said not much impact. but if you break it down by the 57% who said efforts to reduce climate change -- if they want climate change addressed soon, 57% said it would help the economy. if they do not want climate change addressed soon, 55% said
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addressing climate change would hurt the economy. this is more polling on climate change from cbs news. we want to hear from you so let's go back to the phone lines. mike is calling from florida on the republican line. good morning. caller: good morning. i hope everybody has a wonderful day. i think climate change is critical. however, i think we are not addressing the majority of the sources. it is an extremely complex problem. my concern is when china is building two coal power plants on a weekly basis and the third world countries are pumping pollution into the air. that is the situation. we just do not have to address only the united states. we have to address it where we are getting the majority of our products, and that is china.
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what really scares me is i was all in for the greenhouse back in 2010. vice president gore made $1 billion flying around in jets. like our secretary of transportation, he is flying around on private jets. if we talk the talk, let's get together and walk the walk. picking up a little plastic bottle, put it into the recycle, we can all do this. but my main concern if you have a fire in the front in the backyard, the backyard will eventually get to the front yard. i think we can do it. i hope for the next generations.
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i hope everybody has a great day. host: let's go to brooklyn, new york, alexander on the democrat line. caller: good morning. i am hearing everybody talk about the penguins being ok and the lady calling about the frustration that we have plastic everywhere, including the bottles we drink. yes, it is very difficult, like the last caller said. you have coal power plants in china. but the reality is the latest report from the ipcc said we are going to be above 1.5 degrees celsius by 2027. that means catastrophe across the world and we are projected to go above that by like 2.5 degrees celsius. all i am telling everybody who is listening is to forget the
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fact you are republican or democrat or independent. when the climate starts to deteriorate to the point we have the worst air quality in new york city in the world because we have smoke coming in from wildfires that cannot be contained in canada. when we have california going from atmospheric rivers that are drowning people out in mud and you have non-stop snow, the environment is going to be so out of whack there is going to be no place to hide. when everybody starts to really feel the impact it is going to be too late for a lot of things we could have done decades ago. be mindful there is research out there. you can go to the ipcc and read the reports yourself. it is not biased toward the left or the right. the reality is we have got to
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stop using energy from dead dinosaurs. we have ai. we can look through satellites at the moon. we can look across the universe and we cannot get out of technology that was invented in the 1800s? it is absurd. thank you for taking my call. host: alexander was referencing ipcc. that is the intergovernmental panel on climate change. it is the united nations body for assessing the science related to climate change. their website is ipcc.ch and they have the international impacts of climate change. eileen is calling from connecticut on the independent line. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call and thank you for th >> we are leaving this to honor our more than 40-year commitmen

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