what purpose does the gentleman rise? mr. mcgovern: i ask for the yeas and nays. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman asks for the yeas and nays. the yeas and nays are requested. those favoring a vote by the yeas and nays will rise. a sufficient number having arisen, the yeas and nays are ordered. pursuant to clause 8 of rule 20, further proceedings on this question are postponed. pursuant to clause 12-a of rule 1, the chair declares the house in recess for a period of less like.

powered by cable. announcer: washington journal continues. host: a conversation of what happens in the states the last 12 months when it comes to abortion access we are joined by kelly baden. remind us of what your mission is.

guest: it is a research policy organization working to have sexual health and rights that is everything with estimating the global access to abortion, contraception in the u.s., and matching that with policymakers. host: if you want to check it out on the homepage, there is a report with the abortion policy one year post roe v. wade. this is the lead paragraph. one year after the united states supreme court decision to overtone -- overturn roe v. wade, the status in states is complex. it has created a also add confusion. it offers great spots to chart a pathway for more protection of abortion. what would you describe as abysmal? guest: the 19 million women that

live in a state that have banned abortion or restricted it with an early abortion: such as georgia. we have spent the last 50 years trying to overturn roe v. wade. and in the meantime restricting abortion in whatever way at the state level. several were trigger bans going into effect as soon as the supreme court allowed them to do so. nine states had abortion an to go in to effect almost right after. and abortion is unavailable due to complexity and chaos and a series of other abortion restrictions and bans passed by states this year. host: on good marker.org -- good

marker -- guttmacher institute's .org tell us what is happening in those states. guest: they may have an exception for pregnancy with sexual assault that threatens a woman's health or life. we know those exceptions are very difficult to access and process. they exist mostly in name only. when you look at the map and what you know about state legislature, there is tight restriction in the southeast region of a country that there is no abortion access. someone in louisiana for example who needs an abortion has to figure out how to navigate across multiple state lines to get an abortion in a state where it is still allowed in a clinic guttmacher.

-- in a clinic. and it allows you to have time off work, money, and other things to have eagle abortion care. -- legal abortion care. host: and the orange states here georgia, nebraska, arizona -- why are they varying? guest: they have banned abortion but they did not have early -- it has to be an early abortion. georgia as i mentioned has an early ban on abortion at pregnancy at six weeks. that means many people may not even know they are pregnant by then. by the time they get to appointments, get the money, time off work, they may not be able to access and abortion in that state.

nebraska made a lot of news this year by trying to enact an abortion ban and they did have one on 12 weeks. looking at how that story tells us the ban on abortion and gender care are two sides of the same cordon. nebraska illustrates that well. host: and that brings up the point of the complex legal implications. what is an example? guest: the 14 state where we say abortion is not legally banned but it is complicated enough that they do not provide abortion care there. abortion is unavailable. for all intensive positions it is similar to operating under a climate of an abortion plan. host: what is a preemption law? guest: it is when a state tells cities or localities in the

state but they can and cannot do. it states that the state has precedence over the city or county to do something. where we see that as it relates to abortion is with the series of county commission and city council taking action. if they are a blue state -- and they try to move to some health care of protection of abortion access and the state moved to block that. host: oregon is one of them as protective of abortion access. guest: it has a lot of terms in good policy use. it was an early adopter of the equity act that recognized vet -- recognize the legality of importance for abortion and insurance coverage. they have been able to enact a lot of laws against it. it is not a legality, but

expanding access. there are many other states that have done more durable things that we have talked about. it has set up a series of recommendations for other states. host: we talk about them through the next half hour at the washington journal. kelly baden is our guest here. if you want to: we have the numbers, democrats (202) 748-8000, republicans (202) 748-8001, independents (202) 748-8002. she is here until 9:00 a.m.. this is john, mcgrath. in pennsylvania. good morning. caller: good morning my question pertains to the american medical association. how some of the states are treating doctors with jail or prison time if they perform an abortion is not totally necessary. a lot of doctors are changing from