host: good morning. we are one day away from the anniversary of the supreme

court's landmark decision in dobson v jackson women's health organization. the ruling that upended abortion rights nationwide. we want to get your take on what congress should do next on this issue. republicans, 202-748-8001. democrats, 202-748-8000. independents, 202-748-8002. you can join the conversation in a tax including your first name, city, and state 202-748-8003. or own facebook.com/c-span and in a tweet @cspanwj. this week leading up to the one anniversary tomorrow on the dobson decision, lawmakers, the president, groups on both side of the issue have been holding events to talk about this one year anniversary. here is senate president pro

tempore murray about the efforts democrats are making on capitol hill to pass legislation that would protect abortion rates. [video clip] >> the fallout has been devastating. women are heartbroken. they are terrified but they are also mad and determined and speaking out and so are senate democrats. women are not going to soto where men in state legislator taking away their freedom to the site happens to their bodies. where they are treated not like adults capable of making their health care but like second-class citizens. they're not going to settle for eight country where they daughters and granddaughters have fewer rights made it a year ago. i've been fighting for abortion rights since i got here. despite did not start with roe and it did not end with dobbs.

this week we are pushing on the senate floor to pass basic common sense protections that say, yes, you can travel to another state for an abortion. yes, doctors can provide an abortion were states it is legal without fear they will be thrown in prison. yes, we will protect the right to access birth control. we will keep your own line health and data private. republic's blog many of those same bills last year and we all know they bought the woman's -- blocked the woman's health protection act as well. americans are speaking out loud and clear. last november in every single place abortion rights were on the ballot, abortion rights won. americans do not want politicians making health care decisions for them and they want

their freedoms to be protected, not taken away. host: democrats hold the majority in senate. there was patty murray talking about what they are trying to do in that chamber. do you agree or disagree with their efforts? is it too much or too little? what is your message to congress on abortion? washington post with a map. abortion status by state as of this month. the doctor states band are mostly banned. orange colored states banned or blocked by the courts right now. the gray colored states is where abortion is legal. from the washington post reporting on this map, with landmark decision in dobson v jackson, the supreme court cleared the way for 11 states to immediately halt all all or most

abortions for the first time in 50 years abortion was no longer a constitutional right in united states. today when you're after the court swept away the protections established by rote 17.5 one million women of reproductive age, a quarter of all women in age bracket in united states live where abortion is banned or mostly banned. carrie is a republican in milwaukee. what is your message to congress? caller: since it appears the constitution does not explicitly say anything about abortion, that is why supreme court goes back to the states about my message to congress is isn't there a way we can -- we're not going to give you certain types of funding from the federal government unless you get it on your very next election on the ballot and not for the state legislature in the lawmakers to decide but again for the people to decide. even though i am a republican

and stay spread is going to the people they have decided for abortion rights. let the people decide. get it on the ballot and on the next ballot. are senator ron johnson encourage our state government to do that. they could've had it out last year's midterm they did not get it on the ballot for some reason. get it on the ballot. it the people decide. -- let the people decide. host: if your state were to protect abortion, how would you feel? caller: the people will decide. that is what the of the dishes he goes to the state. i agree with that. -- that is what the constitution says, it goes to the state. i agree with that. i would like to add in the child is severely going to be in horrible pain and i anyhow -- that will be hard to prove but

people have to get more realistic nowadays. that is something i wish we could compromise on. host: let's listen to your senator ron johnson. he was at a press conference outside of the supreme court and here's what he had to say. >> i do not think my members of the supreme court should decide that for society. back in wisconsin, i do not believe 132 members of wisconsin legislator should decide that question. the beauty of the dobbs decision is it dissented back to we the people to decide that profound moral issue. what i propose is a one-time single issue referendum held in each state, whether it is mining or advisory, to again pose the question and have we the people

decide. at what point this society has this possibility to protect life? it was taken out of the hands of we the people we have not had the discussion, we have not had education in terms of what life looks like at four weeks, eight weeks, 12 weeks. we have not had the discussion about what abortion looks like at various stages. we also have not had the discussion about what woman facing an unplanned pregnancy is going through. i've always by the pro-life movement -- i think it is been highly compassionate to women facing an unplanned pregnancy. pro-life movement looking at adoption options. i do not quite understand how the pro-life movement maneuvered to be the extremists in this

political debate. my referendum would have 10 choices on the ballot. at what point the society has a responsibility to protect the life of an unborn child? conception? one month? up to nine months which make the statement that a number child has no right to life -- unborn child has no right to life. that is the extreme position. that is the position of the democrat senate and of the left. host: do you agree or disagree with senator ron johnson there? join the conversation this morning. what do you say to him about his idea that this should be decided by the people in referendum proposal on the state level? gary in florida, hi. caller: good morning. it is unbelievable the length

the republicans will go to crete try to force an impeachment against president biden -- host: let's stick to the bushing conversation in the first hour. -- abortion conversation in the first hour. caller: republicans are waging the culture war whether it is against transgender people, voting rights, or deciding what can be taught in african-american colleges. it is another way -- they try to get rid of a abortion since roe in 1973. it is between a woman and a doctor to decide what to do with her body. they claim to be a party less government, -- they want to get

their fingers in every part of a person's life. host: usa today front page this morning, female those still allude the gop. tied to this issue. a poll finds independent women are increasingly at odds with the gop own cultural issues such as banning abortion and opposing lgbtq rights. that creates a risky situation for republican party amuck of the nation's most crucial groups of swing voters. in 2022 woman whether reason so many democratic candidates for the u.s. and prevented a red wave. republicans haven't quite figured out a solution to this statistical dilemma. the disconnect between the republican party and independent woman could be exasperated as gop governors at space -- exacerbated.

the presenter candidates efforts to rally supporters among conservatives could undermine their appeal to more moderate voters in general election. steve in san jose, california. republican. your message to congress on abortion. caller: my message to congress is stay out of it. it is a very divisive issue. congress has no business. it should be handled by the states. your first caller stole my thunder. she expressed it beautifully. if congress gets involved, it should be at the very surface level. host: in what way?

caller: let's say estate has gone overboard -- a state has gone overboard, extreme. they want to prosecute a woman that travels out of state to get that abortion. that is just an extreme point of view and there should be no prosecution whatsoever. your first caller expressed it very well. host: the house gop conference chairwoman held a news conference on this will your anniversary and called for 15 week federal abortion ban.

do you agree with that? caller: well, yes. that is reasonable. a woman has lots of opportunities to not have a child. she can use a prolactin. they could take a day after pill. they should not wait until the baby has taken form, a heartbeat. that is a moral. -- that is immoral. congress should not put us back into a position of being a divisive issue and tearing this country apart. host: do you think if

republicans were successful in implementing a federal 15 week abortion man, with that -- abortion band, would that be divisive or do you think that is middle ground? caller: that is middle ground for some but not for everybody. i hated to see the supreme court take this issue on. they were stupid but -- right before the election. they should've waited after the midterm election. everybody in their right mind could have seen the outcome that we would lose houses we normally would have one in the house -- would have won in the house. host: i want to show others what the republican woman of new york

had to say this week. [video clip] >> i'm so proud of america's involved in this important conversation continued to conduct themselves in respectful lingual manner that advances the dialogue. we asked boko to our neighbors, organize in churches and community groups, donated to charities and supportive rate -- state and federal candidates. for nearly 50 years under roe v. wade it was this tenant of free speech that was silence and saline. we should embrace this debate. provides a moment to rise to the new challenges the life movement faces. it holds the promise of new and better policies that protect the unborn encourage and support women and expect more from fathers. it allows us to argue and when the fact that the right to life is the foundational issue of human rights. as our vendors -- found is

prettily -- brilliantly complained each of us to send out to the right of life from our creator. because of that this debate today is a primary question of public policy for state, local, and yes, federal policy. it was roe v. wade sweeping away the protective laws of all 50 states, liberal and conservative, each of them enacted the people selected representatives that deviated from a course that is been progressing. legally and medically porous enhancement of the rights of the unborn. even the late justice ruth bader ginsburg reflected that quote will be weight invited no dialogue with legislatures is that it seemed to remotely ball from the legislators court. if you listen to the far left,, since state laws are new and extreme. opponents of human rights and antagonists of modern health care.

we know the opposite is true. well if advocates are not extremists, we are not anti-woman, and terminating the life of an unborn child is not health care. host: pocan conference chair elise stefanik of new york talking about the abortion issue. do you agree with her or disagree with her? we are asking your message to congress this morning on the abortion issue as we near tomorrow, the one-year year anniversary of the dobbs decision undoing roe v. wade. look at more of your cause in this morning in our first hour on this topic. there is news this morning on hunter biden investigation. want to share with you three different papers and how they address the latest coming out of congress on this. washington times. feds favored hunter biden in tax probe and rights, gary

shipley said he had never seen an investigation handled in such way in his 14 years as a criminal investigator with the irs. every time conflict arose or decision had to be made in their investigation into hunter biden, prosecutors wrote in ways that benefited mr. biden. quote i am a legend with evidence of that doj provided preferential treatment, so what the investigation, did nothing to avoid obvious conflict of interest in the investigation. he told the house ways and means committee in testimony the panel unsealed yesterday. among allegations one investigator whose name is redacted and identified in documents as mr. x said hunter biden's attorney threatened to end careers investigates the gators prosecutors they charge to president xi -- and careers of investigators and prosecutors if they charge the president's son.

one to because another payment for a sex club was labeled as a golf club membership. he deducted expenses for motel rooms were one of his drug dealers. hunter biden artist at least a .3 one million -- $1.3 million. included in has encompassed $80,000 diamond and it was a $1000 porsche. 2017 was up message from hunter biden to a chinese business associate advocated the president. charlotte worded message chastise this businessman for missing a deadline. i'm sitting here with my father and we would like to understand why the commitment was made has not been fully fulfilled. that is the washington times front page. as i the wall street journal, their headline is, irs agent alleges doj headed hunter biden

pro they talk about the message on whatsapp and not talk about the other details but in the washington times. they note a spokesman for the special counsel, mr. wise, look into this and they repeat a quote many of you may have heard , he had been granted ultimate authority over this matter including responsibilities for deciding where and when or whether to file charges and making decisions necessary to preserve the integrity of the prosecution consistent with federal law. new york times this morning. their story, hunter biden use fathers name to pressure associate in 2017 they talk about the whatsapp message. they say it is not immediately clear whether hunter biden had been of this father when he sent the messages or what his father then private citizen, having finished his term as vice president six month earlier, knew about his sons negotiations

with this potential chinese partners. it is also not clear whether mr. biden was using his father's name without his knowledge to extract money in business deals. mr. shapely also told congress that his investigation had uncovered evidence that some of the claims of the elder mr. biden's involvement were more wishful thinking. the article says hunter biden at the time was addicted to crack cocaine engaging in self-destructive behavior and facing financial pressures. he spent years pursuing ventures that raise ethical concerns about intersection with his father's career. especially during eight years the elder mr. vita spent as vice president. see the death of his brother see 2015 contributed to his downward spiral. those three papers, national papers this morning with the latest on this hunter biden investigation. darnell in philadelphia. what is your message to congress on abortion?

caller: good morning. i believe before abortion was accessible from a society married off their 14-year-old girls. i would like to say the public health civilization cannot allow for a large population of barefoot and pregnant girls. i would like to say that the decorum in america took a downward spiral with abortion clinic bombings and abortion clinics protesters who would get in your face over the issue of abortion. i would like to say that mike pence he band prophylactics from high school when he was governor. i've also like to say that why are john wayne grab them by

their privates republicans trying to shove america in a two hour cowboy movie where they're trying to shoot the bidens. host: all right. vicki in st. petersburg florida. your message to congress on abortion. caller: thank you for c-span. i know you went off cyberattack what biden think but i want to say about c-span, c-span reports the news and so i thank you for that. my comment on abortion -- to -- to congress price to be a democrat but i changed to be a republican -- my comment on abortion to congress, i used to be a democrat but i changed to be a republican. that is a live human being in her body and i do not -- that is murder to me.

there is some middle ground somewhere i know it woman should have some type of rights but when the baby is being formed and they know they are delivering. i think it is wrong. lastly, i hope your report on these claims that people are actually selling baby parties in these research companies want these baby parts. it is all about -- anyway, thank you for taking my call. host: luis in georgia, good morning. caller: good morning. i am a patriot. i want to see the development of male birth control. that way the woman get off of the damn pills cause a cervical breast cancer and all the other

cancers. and the unit question -- and eliminate the whole abortion question. host: kathleen in mississippi, democratic caller. kathleen, it is your turn. caller: good morning. every 50 states is different just like every woman, child, man, anybody is different. you kate control something -- you cant control something you cannot see. for so months i have had to try to explain to the doctor that i was pregnant. every person is different, every state is different breed men need to back there but off.

they need to back there tail off. everything they touch is dead, dead. host: washington post, new restriction across the south and midwest since the supreme court decision have led to an -- at least 290 if you -- 25,290 fewer legal abortions since the rolling. the laws have also prompted widespread confusion and fear as hospitals turned away patients with potentially life-threatening conditions. in new survey, approximately 40% of respondents who practice in states with abortion ban's say they have face constraints caring for patients experiencing

miscarriages or other pregnancy related emergencies since the rolling. tavalah in new york. good morning . caller: i came to this country late 1980's. these abortion issue is not political issue. this is a right of a woman. it is nobody's business. i wonder why we are bringing this when should a woman have an abortion or not. leave these things for the woman please. we are in the 21st century. let the woman decide what is good for her and for the child

to be born or not to be born. i wonder why we are wasting time. how many times spent of such things? we have a lot of issues. i think they should be out of politics. let's woman decide what is good for her. that is it. host: michael buffalo, new york. caller: yes, i think people -- we are getting further away from religion and god. this whole thing about abortion is sickening. to terminate a living life, it is just beyond belief. they said a lot of trash about republicans and i am fed up with it. two tier system of justice. think about the party of purveyors, pedophiles deciding sexual reassignment surgery to your children. the abortion being.

it brings tears to your eyes. this country has really gone to hell. not so sure were to salvage it with china. host: what would you like congress to do? caller: i would like congress to take no pay. host: on abortion. you were to see them push for 15 week federal band? caller: 50 week b -- 15 week band, something like that. i'm nobody to tell a woman with to do with her body. i dislike the claim to my bible and pray to god that things will get better. i'm just a small voice in large country. host: ok. the first lady health and event this weekend at the white house with advocates for abortion rights. here's what she had to say as we approach the one-year anniversary of the dobbs decision. [video clip]

>> today 18 states have abortion ban's in effect and the consequences of these bands go far beyond the right to choose. women are being denied access to medications that treat arthritis and cancer even when they are not pregnant. survivors of rape and incest are being force to travel across state lines for care. doctors have stopped providing the care they know is best for their patients because they do not know which procedures are legal. like those who are with us today, far too many women are experiencing devastating consequences to their health, their fertility, and their lives. turned away from emergency rooms. delayed treatment, morning loss

while barely surviving, the resulting infections. the dobbs decision was devastating. and joe is doing everything he can do to fight back. but the only way we can ensure every woman has the fundamental freedoms she deserves is for congress to make the protections of roe v. wade the law of the land once again. so we have to make our voices heard for the woman whose lives on the line and for the fathers and brothers and husbands and sons love them. we need men in this fight too. which i'm sure you are all saying the same thing. host: first lady jill biden at the white house this week. the president, as she mentioned, is going to be talking. he's working on it and is also

going to be talking about it today along with the vice president. there attending an event with emily lists, pro-choice organization, to talk about the one-year anniversary. we will show you the event tonight at c-span 9 p.m. eastern time and you can also watch on our free video mobile app, c-span now or on our website c-spanrg. t republican side, you will hear from presidential candidates like lita bri of the abortion issue at the faith d eedom coalition conference happening in washington toy and tomorrow. governor r desantis, mike penc former governor chris christie are all going to be attending alongith former president donald trump and other presidential candidates. who have those three today 9 a.m. eastern time. live coverage ofhem on c-span two, our video mobile apps c-span now and our website c-span.org.

also saturday on the one-year anniversary of the dobbs decision from a vice predent mike pence joins others for pro-life rally at e lincoln memorial. watclive beginning at 10:30 a.m. eastern time on c-span, c-span now, mobile apps become or online at c-span.org. ahead of the one-year anniversary, what you know your message to congress on abortion. kathy in wisconsin, independent. caller: hello? host: hi, we are listening. caller: i just wanted to say that i hope my senator here's me because -- i am talking about senator johnson. on -- i'm one of the

people who wanted a baby with my husband and i got pregnant. i have a blood disease that could have killed both of us for the end of my pregnancy. it was as bad as the situation is anybody could ever have. luckily everything worked out for me but i am so sick and tired of these people thinking baby shower and adoption is the answer to this. there are women like me out there who deserve to be able to take care of himself and have a -- themself. it is not a simple as the men would like you to believe. host:it jay as washington dc. caller: thank you for taking my call. i am waiting for the reporter to push us to billion dollar bill to the children of former presidents on the table.

the business affairs there. i'm still waiting for that shoe to drop dealing with trump. host: and on abortion? caller: yes ma'am. this has been settled by civil war. i remember i had a -- as far as involuntary servitude is concerned. 13th amendment reads neither slavery or involuntary servitude except a punishment for eight crime thereof the party through the convicted should exist within the united states or any subject to the jurisdiction. congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. we talk about a constitutional violation if you're going to force women to serve another human being. the fetus is another human being the you are violating the 13th amendment. if you force women to have unwanted, i guess they will, i wanted -- against their will, i

wanted to serve another human being. was senator ron johnson he's talking about turning it back to the states but -- it is a lot more complicated. i lost my thought. host: that is all right. we heard it. john, republican. caller: thank you for taking my call. this issue is about the 10th amendment. there's nothing in the constitution or intendant in the constitution about abortion. pat murray or any of these other advocates want a national policy on abortion, they need to have a constitutional amendment or constitutional convention. that is how you change the constitution. if you do not do that, you do

not have a constitution because you cannot just make stuff up. host: john referencing patty murray, we showed what she had to say at a news conference this week. she referenced a debate that would happen on the floor from that debate i want to show you what democrats and republicans were talking about. one of them talking about to pass more legislation aimed at abortion. here is the mexico democrat catherine cortez masto bring up a bill on travel for abortion. [video clip] >> last year alone we have seen extremist republicans try to stop our military from getting the health care they need. they'll come after safe and effective birth control as supported federal abortion ban that law reproductive care and now we are seeing far right to actively work to bar women seeking care in states outside their own.

this is about controlling women. the far right does not trust women to make their own health care decisions so they think those decisions should be made by politicians instead. i do not know about some of my colleagues across the aisle but i do not think elected officials to be killing women -- tell moment what to do with their bodies and neither do the vast majority of nevada. nevada is overwhelmingly voted to codify rumors right to choose and today over two thirds of nevadans believe will miss health care decision are between her and her doctor. that's across all parties, democrats and republicans and independents but even though nevada is a safe place for women who need health care, far right republicans living outside of my state are telling women we are making it illegal for you to go there. this april, i became the first state to make it a criminal offense to help someone to

seek an abortion. elected officials in states like tennessee, texas, and missouri are trying to punishment for leaving their state for effective care as well as anyone who helps them including their doctors or even their employers. this is why my colleagues and i are reintroducing the freedom to travel for health care act. one year after roe v. wade was overturned, we need this bill more than ever. i legislation reaffirms that woman have a fundamental right to interstate travel and makes crystal clear that states cannot prosecute woman or anyone who helps them for going to another state to get the critical reproductive care that they need. host: senator catherine cortez masto from nevada on the floor this week as the progress push for more legislation to protect abortion rights. listen to you talk republican mike lee pushing back on the

need for abortions. [video clip] >> this bill should be freedom to traffic act. to my knowledge, no state, not a single state has enacted a law restricting an adult's right to travel across state lines for purpose of an abortion or otherwise. i'm not aware of a single state considering such a thing. if state were to consider it, do not do it they did do it, social law would undoubtedly be shut down as unconstitutional. on several grounds including the fact the commerce clause, article one section eight clause three of the constitution interpreted by the supreme court among other things to prohibit any state from treating medical of commerce for the good, person, or think in interstate commerce differently based on origin or destination out-of-state or outside of u.s.

the state cannot keep their own residence inside their own state boundaries. that is understood. we are dealing with a phantom problem, a fence of law that does not exist -- a phantom law that is not exist. there is no law out there that restricts an adult to travel also the state. with some states do have and perhaps that is what is causing the confusion our laws to stop the of children across state lines to obtain an abortion without notifying the parents. this is well established. we have laws on the books prohibiting the trafficking of minors across state lines with good reason. this is very different from what was in -- from what was implied and it is a reason why we need to pass this bill today.

those laws do not exist. they're not being considered to be placed on the books. host: senator mike lee republican of utah during debate this week in the senate. as we approach the one-year anniversary of the overturning of roe v. wade. we are in this morning, what is your message to congress on abortion? do you want to talk about the debate they just had we just showed you on travel? what do you think they should do on this issue? the headline, a year after supreme court ruling on abortion, republicans look to quell the political backlash. gop wage for how to talk to voters on abortion. from reporting, democrats say the supreme court decision makes a winning issue for their party ahead of 2024. polls back of their prediction. a gallup poll released earlier

this month found a 61% of americans think the high court's decision to overturn federally protected abortion and return the matter to the states was a bad thing. the poll found the percentage of americans who want abortion ban in all circumstances has doodle to 13% while record high 69% says abortion should be legal in first trimester. paula in illinois become independent. we read of morning that republicans remove vote, independent female vote is alluding gop. what do you say about that on this issue of abortion? caller: i totally agree i think abortion is a inflammatory word. it is termination of pregnancy. that is a very personal decision that only affects me and my family. it should not be a decision for the state, for the course, nor

my neighbor. they're not going to be affected. to have an abortion, termination of pregnancy, physically hurts. it mentally hurts. we have no idea what that woman or young girl is going through. you do not know if she has medical issues, she has been on medication her whole life, rhonda is having a pregnancy, do not know her physical situation, mental situation to her environmental. she taking care of another child at home that has cancer? does woman have cast herself for high blood pressure? she could die of an aneurysm. she taking care of an elderly parent? most women who have the termination of pregnancy have children at home already. too many women are now at risk of dying and not getting their medical care and that is going to leave a lot of motherless

children at home. i do not understand. i do not understand why the states and courts have gotten involved in such a personal decision. as far as 15 ban, not since. --nonsense. i had a friend of 50 years ago, her first pregnancy was discovered at 20 weeks. she went on to have two more children and now she has four grandchildren. all these things are not anybody's decision other than the woman's and her family involved. in romania, decree they had a ban on abortion for women. they were trying to replace the

men that were lost in the wars. there were so many babies born they cannot handle it. these babies were being dropped off at institutions and unable to be taking care of. 60 minutes did programs on it. there were four or five babies in cribs. unchanged, dirty diapers, unfed, malnourished. they finally stop this despicable practice. people have -- host: can i jump in and in, -- and ask, does that dictate how you vote and has it always dictated how you vote? caller: yes. yes, because it is a violation of woman, their rights and what they know is best for them and their families and other people are not affected.

my decision will not affect anybody else. host: will you vote for republican if they were pro-choice? caller: if a republican were pro-choice? i would then might reconsider. i do not like all republican policies but i might reconsider. this main think is wrong for anybody think it is their decision. host: i'm going to go on to fran in jacksonville, florida. caller: i was listening to the other colors that he just asked somebody if they would vote for republican they were pro-choice. one not if they have been preaching -- well not that they have been preaching against abortion all their lives and all of a sudden when the polls come out then they turn pro-choice. no, i would not because they lie. the supreme court justice got on the supreme court recently, they

lie. they lied about roe v. wade. there are not going to touch it. now here we are. that is why voter suppression is coming in. they are trying to really suppress the vote because they know that this is the most unpopular think they ever did. we need to get the republicans out of there. the lady who called about the baby being born and they have to keep -- murder the baby at the end will they have banned the abortion pill that is been out more than 20 years. there is no baby coming out and getting murdered. they simply want woman to have babies and it is none of their business. host: an update on efforts by congresswoman lauren boebert to impeach president biden. she supported by others in the caucus but not speaker mccarthy.

from the washington post, house of representatives on thursday referring to longshot efforts to impeach president biden to a pair of committees a part of a deal made by the speaker to appease heart right republicans and avoid a split vote among members of the party. the vote to 19-28 with four democrats and republicans on voting. so to bring in the resolution to the house for where it was nice but, it will be center review for the house judiciary and homeland security committees. speaker saying there needs to be an investigation first before you go to articles of impeachment. david in south carolina from a pumpkin. if your message to congress on abortion. caller: i agree with one of polished points very much so. -- paula's points very much so.

if you follow the science, all medical school books say human life begins at conception. observation is between consumption and death each day's continuum of development. bert is a change, divers can decide when somebody is born, mother cannot. life begins at conception. it is an established science. it is not the woman's body, as a separate body with a separate system and the placenta keeps those two individuals separate. during pregnancies mother sacred duty to care for that child by nourishing, oxygen. host: what are you say to a woman who have said it is their

body, it is none of your business, and there could be situations where at 20 weeks or whenever, the woman's life is at stake? caller: i already covered that. science says it is separate human life begins at conception and it is not a part of the woman's body, it is only hidden within her uterus, but it is a totally separate life and the present as a means of exchange. paula had a lot more time and i want to get to her point. please not cut me off. it is not their body. host: get to your other point. caller: what to do with congress, you can still make the decision of whether it is legal to murder a baby to states but with congress -- what congress should do given we give choice of dollars to individual aid to americans and non-americans, i

believe congress should make prenatal care and adoption services public expense to all women and to address palace point, she is right. i do not think most women who have an abortion want to. they are facing all pressures and they should be cared for and assisted to adoption. and not used as particle ponds. she is right. -- and not use as political pawns. she is right. but were romania, those are just political arguments. congress should make prenatal care and adoption services free. host: that is david's message to congress. christopher in houston, texas. independent. what is your message to congress on abortion? caller: good morning previewed you are my absolute favorite

host. i'm so glad i got to talk to you this morning. i want to give a different perspective because i've been in foster care program for 15 years. there are over 250,000 unwanted, unadopted children in this country. which shocked me. my friends come adrian, we are all foster parents and we thought there are all these kids -- kids are wanted because people who are against abortion want to give you the idea that there is all these parents out of that there is ale parents out of their that are just dying for children. no, that is not true at all. we have so many children unwanted. the fact of the matter is these fundamentalist that think it is killing a baby are so wrong. your previous caller -- it is

not established fact that life begins at conception. i do not know what jesus school he went to that is just not true. i want to say for those of us that are out there and trying to make a difference, if people on the right really believe in making children's lives better, they would not do things like work requirements all snap -- on snap, weakening ourselves -- weakening our social safety nets. you put a gun to woman's head and make sure she has a baby and as soon as the baby is born of the baby in the trash. it blows me away. even kitty cat like month stint not agree with that. host: gail, democratic caller. caller: thank you. i am blown away with opinions on

the roe v. wade. i am pro-roe v. wade. any poetical person in my arena -- political person in my arena that is not, i would not vote for them. i happened to be a senior citizen and i can remember back during my 20's and 30's the backyard mechanics, way before roe v. wade and women had no other way but to go into literally a garage to get an abortion. i'm just going to speak about -- under the massachusetts rhode island connecticut and those areas there. many of my friends who i thought would never see again who had an abortion. in the backyard mechanic. roe v. wade made a very big difference to the people in my arena. i do not have anything else to say other than when i saw the

supreme court had ruled against roe v. wade, i just saw all that come back to mind that they would be a lot of backyard. mechanics doing the abortions host: lewis in new jersey, republican caller. it is your turn. caller: good morning. a few items i would like to mention the. how come nobody mentions the interview i heard on c-span where this woman says i have had five abortions already, i cannot wait to my six. as far as abortion, the question i mentioned, the question is -- i do not want to pay for it. you want freedom, go ahead and do it. i do not want to pay out of my tax dollars. i know there are different scenarios. as far as the gentleman mentioning adoption, that is an

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>> "washington journal" continues. host: we want to welcome back congressman doug mimosa. joining us from capitol hill this morning thank you so very much. guest: thank you for having me on today. host: let's talk about what happened in the house some of your colleagues wanting to put articles of impeachment against president biden on the floor. the speaker saying not quite yet but there needs to be an investigation. who do you agree with? guest: there needs to be due process that was a couple days ago now. i was on the floor doing my own speeches when lauren did that. i understand your frustration with what the president is not doing on the border and some of the other policies and such but you have to go through a process to get to where were going.

and impeachment has been abused in the last couple years when president trump was on his way out. they did it 10 days before he was to leave in the first one based on that was all coming out but it was a made up deal. inch pete -- impeachment has been abused as a tool. in a republican house whether it's on biden or mayorkas or somebody else not doing their job or doing criminal things it needs to be a full process. that hasn't happened yet there's all sorts of things lying around on allegations of this and that. jim jordan on their committee getting to the bottom of with these alleged 5 million-dollar payouts and other things that are going on what happens with the billion dollars on ukraine. there's a lot of stuff going on

that needs to be properly investigated. the opportunity to defend ourselves and have to process in this country so it's not quite ready for that at this point. host: she posed for the articles of impeachment earlier this week yesterday was the vote to refer it to committee so it sounds like you voted for that for those investigations to begin. guest: right. that's the proper way to do things. speaker mccarthy came in on a platform to do things correctly on the house. committees are open and going through a process so we want to do things correctly unlike the last couple of years with proxy voting and the people being shut out of their processes. host: how do you describe the relationship within the party and the different factions between the leadership kevin mccarthy and the freedom caucus.

guest: the 15 votes to have the speaker settled there in the beginning of his term there was -- it was difficult at the time but things were done as far as getting some more things in the rules package for the house that made for better process that was compromise that was brought together so things went pretty good after that and that there's been a couple of bumps here we had a couple of hits on the debt ceiling republicans tend to not be told what to do individually they're not going to have party buses doing that that's not what we do. we are not about that at all so were going to have a little more free expression of opinions so that doesn't always align for making things super smooth i

think we should have that right to have those opinions. we come together as a family and to a behind-the-scenes and, a little more unified. we'll get there. host: according to reports washington examiner and others, the speaker made a deal with conservatives after the debt proposal to keep appropriations bills at 2022 levels. negotiated the agreement with the speaker and president biden. if that's true, but then are you concerned as a member of agriculture what that would mean for farmers? >> we have to have spending discipline here. spending is not a far reach from what we've seen in 2023 were all these items that are paid for the so-called inflation reduction act is not about reducing inflation. the infrastructure bill about

90% of what you call infrastructure, the real winner of the bill that got dumped on us the end of the year last year those set the pattern for really bad spending so we need to go back i mean 2022 levels aren't great either were talking like the tail end of the covid area -- era we are seeing some of the grasp of that and unemployment dollars that are still unaccounted for and any other dollars. a portion of the unspent covid money in the deal a lot of that i was glad on the debt ceiling we were able to turn the spending back downward and go through the appropriation process. it's not going to be easy but at least we will have an open process and an open committee instead of another bad deal

thrown in at the last minute we hope to avoid that that's what speaker mccarthy is trying to do is proper negotiations. host: let's talk about legislation related to transgender jute -- youth they are protecting children from experimental reassignment treatment on children and the other one is the funding of gender experimentation act prohibiting reassignment surgery and treatment why are these necessary? guest: this is going on. taxpayers by and large don't want their money going towards these surgeries. one bill is indeed addressing the taxpayer portion of it the other bill is a flap or vision of that. minors should not be having this done. they should not be forced or

cores to intuit. school counselors or others are people in the medical community need to be held accountable for this. this is not a solution for kids or adults for that matter but adults can make more adult decisions i'd like to have them more real information on that. a gentleman who is in his 80's now went through this about 30 years ago and he was told as an adult lies about what transition would do for him. you can find him out there. see what his story is. so to have this happen to kids, it's unbelievable. let kids be kids is what people are thinking. what is all this drag queen story our being thrown at kids? why does it have to be sexualized of being able to be

kids and go fishing in the summer and play with legos and things like that. why do they have to complement -- contemplate all this stuff. host: one of the witnesses included 15-year-old transgender girl parley walker who spoke about laws regarding treatment against transgender youth in her home state of alabama. i want to show our viewers what she had to say. [video clip] >> there has been so much information -- misinformation share. alright faulted misrepresenting the steps and care taken by qualified medical professionals growing up i had a great childhood. as a group, as i felt like something was something was different for me. i to my prince i believed i was transgender nobody pushed me to become transgender. no one suggested or influenced me because it is not a choice. in this is who i was.

after i came out my parents were doing the absolute best they could to sue me, took me to our local pediatrician. he sat down with us and referred us to medical professionals that could street me. he never once pushed an agenda onto me and said -- and said listened to me and provided information on how to get the best health care for my situation. the focus on getting to know me understanding my specific case getting to know my parents and figuring out how to care for me as a patient. they advised that a point where they talk about surgeries on a minor. it wasn't even something they would discuss. instead one of the things that stood out was that if i ever decided to stop or change my mind that it was ok they would support me no matter what. this is the opposite of what i hear in the news in the legislatures. it makes me wonder how they can tell my parents that i can't get the care i need to be happy and

healthy. host: your response to her. guest: someday when she realizes she's ingres change how you been treated it's either x export x y chromosomes and at some point she will realize that they surgically alter her she can't come back she will be in limbo with both of those. just because she was probably subject to this information may be on the internet as a kid i don't know. i haven't interviewed her but this is what is happening to a lot of kids it's become a way to be popular or a way to fit into something and there is people perforating this to them. we've seen doctors lie about it on the camera saying once they start taking hormone blockers oh we can turn those right back on. and you will be right back where

you were. this does damage to reproductive systems and physiology when they get these hormone blockers and take them long enough to have a permanent amount of damage. this is a complete misrepresentation just flat out lies to kids. lies to the adults and we have to fight this for parents that are listening to this and seeing this this is a war on our kids and people who do not have their best interest at heart. host: darlene in montana, independent. caller: hello, good morning. good morning you are on the air with the congressman. i would like to say that i am trans. i come from the 90's. we didn't have internet i found out through a documented terry -- documentary. we need to put a stop to the church is doing the things to

little kids. it's not us it's the right wing, it's the priests it's the christian fascists. i'm just a person trying to live my life i just want to go on with my life i don't want to sit here and have to fight for my life just like you probably don't want to sit there and fight for your life but you're trying to buy fitting -- you think you're scared. we're not the problem change is going to happen. guest: i'm glad you're sorry but you made that as an adult decision and great on you. to have kids subject to this let them be kids. i can't believe the goals of the medical community that want to do this to 7, 8, 10-year-olds. is just one thing if you want to play dress-up for a while but when you're doing harm on -- hormone blockers is going to be a lot of people at the rate

of suicide is going to be higher. host: how many doctors did you speak to before he drafted this legislation? guest: i've spoken to the people who have been subject to that and have regrets on that. i've read many pieces of information on that. so i don't need to go interview the doctor about it because it's also common sense. it's also your physiology. host: jane in louisiana, democratic color. caller: i'm really concerned that most of these people that are republicans and maybe even just people that don't know what they're talking about. they raised us as being male or female. some people do not do that. where do you think gay people come from? males and females.

it's something in their body and in their bones. that's five ok you talked to some people who regretted it that's fine. now talk to the doctors. not the ones you hear about the news or on twitter or make generalizations. i guess on youtube about all these people, sorry if he thinks i know they are not doing it for 10-year-olds. probably not closer to 16 maybe they might think about it, the doctors. the parents are the ones in control here. they want their child to be happy. that needs to be adjusted. it's kind of like the abortion problem b between the patient and the doctor. host: how do you respond to that argument? guest: i'm glad she brought up

parents people in the school system are trying to go around parents on this. california legislation is moving right now to cut parents out of the process on their parenting. parents are 168 hours a week for the care of their children so to have schools going around that, having counselors go around that i'm glad we are talking about parental choice and parental responsibility here. family homes on that they should have absolute authority over what's happening with their children not some bureaucrat. that's what i have legislation on that as well because my hometown of chico, california, my home district. the school system there supported that the counselor could make a young girl whose 11

after she went for counseling she had some confusion about some things said let's go ahead and announce that you decided to change to avoid identity and they gave her a new name and add that to the teacher a couple hours later without parental consent. the mom had to find out from the media somehow or maybe her grandmother. while that's privacy, privacy for the student. this counselor outed this kid without even having much chance to contemplate that. now though retreat from that order, you know, stick with it because i don't want to look foolish either way they are subjecting an 11 euro to psychological harm. pressure from other students constant bombardment from the internet just some other ailment

-- element missing in their life. host: nina, cincinnati. caller: i find it very confusing because a woman, i've been listening for about a half-hour or so and you were talking about abortion earlier. and a woman -- this is going to be with the transit stuff. but it's with both. a woman cannot decide to get her tubes tied at 28 years old without children but there allowing children because what if she changes her mind and wants children. guest: there is no law on that. there is no law on that. there might be a doctor. caller: go ask the doctor. guest: if the doctor won't do it from find a different doctor there is so law on that.

caller: so this is just about the ledges patient not the ethics. guest: we are not going to legislate on one people make an adult decision if they want to get sterilized having tubes tied or whatnot. caller: they should be about two. guest: the doctor is advising his patient that's between the doctor and that patient but it's a situation there's no way we're going to legislate that a woman would have to deal with that or not be able to do that procedure. that's unrelated to what were talking about here. caller: not really because it's really the whole medical establishment from the beginning because you know who runs the medical like who runs all the

hospitals and who makes the decisions like ok -- >> you saw how politicized covid was. it seems to be a much larger set of interests out there. don't use ivermectin, don't use hg q there's a lot of other stuff going on that turns out to be deceptive as well as the subject here with trans there's a lot of stuff going on in the medical community. they are not acting right anymore as far as the first help for the patient. host: can you explain the difference between it being a between a doctor and their patient when it comes to a woman not wanting to have children, the example that you were talking about and people who argue it's between the doctor and the patient if a woman wants to have an abortion and it's

between a doctor and a patient if somebody wants to go through transgender treatment? guest: ok while she brought up that somehow there's legislation on getting tubes tied which is not true at all. in any of these cases here we want the truth to be out on what happens whether it's an abortion, what is really going to go on there. there is a life involved and the transgender business we are looking at people think deceived and lied to that this is going to be the cure-all for what their issues that they are confused about or what have you. there's not going to be an ultimate solution. look at all the stuff that wallace has done. he was talking to people about this. and how the didn't they have been surgically altered and can go back.

it's getting the facts out. some people making a decision and if you're less than 18 years old we have no business subjecting minors to this. that's what the legislation is and we want to protect kids from being so hyper sexualized in this day and age in making these decisions. host: we will go to david in los angeles, independent. caller: good morning, c-span. i wanted to make a few corrections. president biden's historic bipartisan infrastructure bill was one of the most consequential bills in u.s. history and it's making significant impact on the infrastructure as we. tens of thousands of jobs are being started and c-span will you have your staff go to biden manufacturing map and open up the white house website you can

view the interactive map of all of the projects that are actually in the works right now. and that way this gentleman understands that what he said was absolutely not true. thank you. guest: wen yu throw trillions and trillions of dollars edit some of it is going to hit the ground and build some things. but when they were throwing like childcare and other things in their calling it infrastructure it really hurts whole movement to try to have more infrastructure represented by building highways, building dams, throwing up levees. you can throw anything you want in there yeah jobs are created because 10 or 12% of it actually had ground with real infrastructure per right now the high-speed rail boom dog was

sold to the taxpayers and voters years ago and part of it is underwater because there's a lot of junk infrastructure because biden and thinking want to pump money and things to show that somehow they are creating jobs. host: congressman who is molson? did he inspire this legislation on transgender? guest: parents in their kids being subject to hypersexualiz ation and having going to a dead-end. kids should so that walsh had a lot of information out there. i think that's someone you can point to to go into a lot more detail then i can of people he's interviewed and have a vendor so if you want to go get some information that's the way to do

it. host: the new republic. guest: that is nonsense that means you're afraid of something know we are speaking out we are pushing back on a constant media and ideological push against parents, against families and against protecting kids from these people. host: they call what he has put up conspiracy theories. did you check to make sure it was accurate? guest: what you want me to do run around and interviewed all the people he interviewed? i trust his sources so i don't trust people that start throwing these words around. host:, washington, good morning connie.

caller: i have ine child. he's 39 now and i was raised a christian. i'm still a christian. i was raised republican switched parties in the mid-90's for various reasons. you talk about the tender age of youth and not introducing kids to sexual matters at such a young age. i didn't know mice and was gay until later in his early 20's and he told me that he knew when he was in third grade. that he was feeling differently about the girls his buddies were talking about. he didn't have the same feelings for those young girls that his buddies were not paying attention to. he had different kinds of feelings for his buddies, his

friends. and he was getting very confused. and back when he was young at that time, he started having temper tantrums and all kinds of issues and i took him to my church's counselor and we had some group therapy. it started with -- it started years of therapy and it wasn't until he was in his early 20's when i realized all this time he had been living a lie and not had any support and then he went to talk to and was being raised what you consider a homophobic environment guest: is anybody in your house phobic really? caller: we all grew up that way. guest: it's a hate term when people don't support the

lifestyle. caller: that's just the term that we used in the 70's. guest: it was used by the left to do a narrative this is anybody with questions is not a hater and that's nonsense. caller: will my question to you is what do parents do with young children who are coming into puberty and discovering that they were born differently? how are christian parents to care for our children and to make sure that the world is welcoming and the flock doesn't push them out? that would be my question to you. guest: i think most people are going to be accepting of how people are these days. and what is important to note is statistically approximately 80% of kids that have gender or sexual confusion at a minor age about 80% of them known as

gender dysphoria pretty much worked their way out of it on their own if they're not subject to somebody trying to change their gender or not allowing them to have counseling or conversations about it. california example you can have counseling, parents aren't allowed to do that if they want to discuss both sides of the issue it can only be one direction towards pushing them towards continuing their dysphoria. so they can work their way out of it by the time they reach adulthood and icy interviews on that where they are glad their mother or parents didn't push them in that direction and allowed them to write it out. it's a whole agenda out there and people assigning the word of that's homophobic or trans phobic that's putting people in a category and writing off their opinions as being invalid in this whole thing.

basically shutting down people's conversation unless it fits the narrative of the left and the media. host: thank you for the conversation this morning. guest: thanks for having me on. host: we will take a break and when we come back we will be joined by brad sherman we will talk about the debt ceiling deal and banking reform bills along with foreign policy as well. we will be right back. ♪ >> sunday on q&a historian talks about the complicated legacy of

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continues. host: we want to welcome back to the table brad sherman congressman from california. hopton crept for that community. -- top democrat for that subcommittee. usa today headlines from page biden courts india's right wing p.m. would you describe him as right wing? guest: if we deal with governments all the time sometimes somebody on the right get elected sometimes somebody on the left. in terms of domestic politics there's a lot of policies and a government on the right wing that would be considered by republicans socialist. host: would you call him a

democratic president? guest: he was selected. he has -- i would recommend that i'm not running for prime minister of india. host: was he deserving of a state dinner? guest: i think so. host: why? guest: if you just have state dinners for people who agreed with everything we do the fact is this is a major leader. this is the largest by population country in the world. it is a country that we have very quickly secured trade with. he has lifted people out of poverty with successful economic policies.

he may have lifted more people out of poverty in the last 10 years than anyone else. host: footage you hear from yesterday when he addressed a joint meeting in congress? guest: described india as a country with 22 official languages. andy says they be equipped -- they speak with one voice. i thought that was a good turn of phrase. he never mentioned a word china in his speech. but parts of it were about china. host: so he helped? guest: he's got to decide diplomatically offering to be. i think india stands to benefit from right we now have as a friend shoring prefer to onshore annual -- our manufacturing it makes a lot more sense to source products on india rather than china because it's not inconceivable that all trade

with china will be cut off by the end of the year if they choose to invade taiwan. involved in economic affairs and oversee capital markets on wall street. i think companies are massively underestimating the risks of depending on china. what would you like india to do on china? guest: they are participating in the quad in i guess it's more on russia they continue to source weapons from russia the sourcing weapons from russia is understandable because he inherited a military that was

locked-in to those weapons systems. he's moving away from that but he's been willing to buy russian oil at a discount of course he's running a poor country but his condemnation has been soft. host: when it comes to president biden the other day they call their leader the dictator was that a mistake? guest: if she doesn't want -- ifxi doesn't want to be called a dictator you have to allow free elections. on a short-term basis it's always easier to not speak the truth to call dictators but you have to speak truth even to power. host: calling it an open political provocation.

guest: i don't think we told blinken to go to china and line or be able to speak the truth you can negotiate that doesn't mean you don't have to mention from time to time that they are dictators if we are so weak that we can't speak the truth, that's bad and if we are so weak that we are afraid to talk that's bad. host: domestic issues what is going on with thanks you've introduced legislation what will it do? guest: it will introduce many pieces of legislation but the big problem we have is banks have lost money when they invest

in long-term debt instruments. they don't want to recognize those losses and the regulators don't want to take those losses into account in determining whether the bank is -- they argue that depositors with all the interest rates the banks benefit more if you leave money in your checking account or the other month interest bearing account. you're inclined to do that a few years ago because you could earn a quarter percent if you did something else. how people realize that they can earn four or 5% on their money and so the idea that people will, over the long-term subsidize banks by leaving lots of money in their accounts at lower rates of interest banks will do very well if people choose to subsidize them. so few of my constituents are

looking to subsidize their banks. host: where do you come down on cryptocurrency? guest: cryptocurrency is bad from every perspective. it sped for the environment it's bad from an investor protection standpoint and did aspires to to weaken the united states. every american, if you listen to what the billionaire burros say their goal is to facilitate transactions that the united states would ban and partially replace the u.s. dollar so as a reserve currency and so they, i think the ultimate cryptocurrency, what does it mean? it's money. who needs that? host: what is happening with thanks and cryptocurrency do you have any concerns there? guest: so far i haven't seen any

bank invest in cryptocurrency. obviously the cryptocurrency industry has banking accounts because cryptocurrency isn't a currency. when they need currency they need to have dollars in the bank. financial institutions are getting into the crypto business and all questioning seems to be can i make money at it is building a hidden money system one that's going to promote a tax evasion, sanctions evasion, human trafficking. in a way just coin mining produces more carbon than five american states. host: this get the calls.

steve in maryland, europe first steve. caller: i couldn't agree more with you about the bitcoin. my concern, mr. sherman, is about the legislative branch. we have china literally in our backyard they are mining and doing everything else that would be in latin america. i don't understand what it's like to go to work every day in the most dysfunctional branch of government and that be the legislative branch when it comes to dysfunction and we want to look that up in the dictionary i think we would have a great book on really worrying for our country. i'm 60 years old i survived lung

cancer and i'm just amazed when i say amazed i mean amazed. when i saw the hearing yesterday of the crookedness that takes place in the legislative branch on both sides of where we are in this country it truly is scary. have a wonderful day. host: what hearing are you referring to? caller: the hearing of yesterday's hearing i watched it from 9:00 to 3:00 it was the testimony of mr. durham and the fbi. i felt that for mr. durham. it's hard to prosecute institution and i believe that's what he was left trying to do. prosecuting any institution in the united states is next to impossible because it's backed by the faith of the federal government. host: ok. guest: certainly more divided in

many decades. in the good times it's fun and in the bedtimes it's important. as to china, the big mistake we made was in the year 2000 when we granted most favored nation status to china. our economic aeries told us you can't have a free and unmanaged trade with another country that manages its trade and images its economy and that if you do you may have a spectacularly large trade deficit and now we do. we need to change our relationship with china. it is the most lopsided trade relationship and the way to do that is tariffs on chinese goods across the board. we do. little and finally to which

branch is more corrupt all to say members of congress report were free trip if it's more than $49. numbers of the supreme court live like billionaires upon their government salaries because, well, they're unlimited. host: calling from missouri, independent. caller: i was going to say i think a woman has a right to do what she wants with her body. if she wants an abortion she can have it. we don't interfere with men's rights so we should have our rights too. host:. guest: the dobbs decision was a very bad decision. we need to restore roe v. wade legislatively through the supreme court.

that's locked into our state constitution. host: kevin, democratic caller. caller: let me turn it down. host: go ahead, kevin. caller: can you hear me? host: we can. caller: i'm a gay man and the government wants to take away my right. just to stop him from taking away my right to marry because we were planning a wedding someday. just to everything he can to stop the maga republicans. i'm with joe biden all the way

and i'm going to vote for him in 2024. host: congressman? guest: i've been a member of the lgbtq+ caucus for i think two decades and we are doing what we can certainly on the democratic party to fight for the rights of the community both here in the united states. host: robert, baton rouge, louisiana. independent. caller: good morning. is there any support in congress for a nationwide ban on gay conversion therapy? guest: i'm sure there is some support in congress for every different possible position on that issue. but i don't think there is legislation on it. host: patty in new jersey. caller: think you for taking my

call i wanted to say thank you to the congressman for coming on the show. i think it's important that congresspeople come on the show so that citizens can have our say. it's very hard to speak to somebody in congress when you call back. my question for you, congressman , if you could send a message back to the congress that what's going on right now with all these investigations and so forth it's already disturbing to the citizens. we just want you to get things done. and also that women are going to rise up and abortion is the biggest thing of our time. host: which investigations were

you referring to? caller: actually, well, i watched them all. i watched c-span all the time. i was referring to the hunter biden investigation and the laundry list of things going on marjorie taylor greene bringing impeachment it's very disturbing. host: your reaction, congressman? guest: even if you watched c-span you're not seeing all of congress. c-span3, the hearings, you can go online, even if it doesn't of my colleagues are wasting their time there may be hundreds meeting on a variety of different issues that, you know probably don't even make c-span3. congress is 435 individuals and the press will show you the 10

that are doing the most extreme things. that doesn't mean the other 400 plus are working to try to make the country better also a lot of discussion about getting things done getting things done means of raising one law and replacing it with another. most of the proposals are actually bad proposals. we introduce thousands of hills think out we don't pass most of them. yes, we do need to get things done but sometimes the best outcome is to have a hearing, look at a proposal and decide the current statute is better than the proposal. host: a story in several papers this morning this according to the irs whistleblower who gave testimony it was released by the republicans on the ways and means committee yesterday. i'm alleging with evidence that

doj provided preferential treatment did nothing to avoid obvious conflicts of interest in this investigation. this is according to the whistleblower. your reaction? guest: i think hunter biden is paying a price for his noncompliance with our tax laws. his name is there in the newspaper and of course he's subject to a plea bargain. i would say in general the consequences for cheating on taxes those consequences are softer than they should be. i don't think they change that policy just because someone is the son of the president. it's hard to name anyone who actually done jail time for cheating on their taxes. host: if he was given preferential treatment or was

biased should that be further investigated because of the whistleblower's claim? guest: we should investigate everything but it wouldn't surprise me if this tax matter went more slowly than it would for tom, did, harry or mary. if you're just auditing someone in my district you can just do your job. this is the son of the president you might want to take a deep breath and it might take you a little longer. i'm sure that the resources spent on this investigation were greater because they were dealing with something so sensitive. host: katie, independent. your next. haiti, good morning. independent caller. caller: good morning.

i just have a comment on this dobbs deal. i am pro-choice. i'm a grandmother. it's my body and if you like i should be able to do whatever i want with it. all of these judges that voted against this i think they should be castrated that way we wouldn't have to worry about so many babies in this world. you will have a great day. guest: i'm pro-choice but i can't endorse your policy. host: from texas, democratic caller. caller: good morning. i have a question. the baby that was raped, became pregnant it's my understanding that the rapist was incarcerated? and she went to another state to have an abortion. had she not had an abortion and had given birth whose baby would

that have been? host: are you following? guest: i know there was a girl in a midwestern state might have been indiana, who was 10 or i believe 11 years old who obviously there is no consensual sex at that age. she had to go across the state boundary to get an abortion. i'm not at all surprised that the perpetrator might be incarcerated. it to his bb-8 is there are babies born as a result of rape, incest. there are fathers in general you are, baby is a child of the parents no matter what the circumstances. in this case there was an abortion one can certainly understand why the parents of

her 10 or 11-year-old girl but that was the right thing today. host: nashville tennessee you're talking with california. caller: i see both sides a lot of time. i think a woman should be able do what they want with their body regardless of being raped or anything else that's what should be done. there's so many things going on today that i think both parties in washington, d.c. kind of gather together most of the time. businesslike china has taken over. now they are buying more farmland there and tennessee we have countries coming over here

and we give them grants to get them started the new business. how is that helping the american people? that's what i don't understand. there's so many people that are just on minimum wage can't already make a living and you've got these guys making billions of dollars in these companies. i guess there considering anyway that's the challenge for the day. have a great day. host: right. comment? guest: so many calls have come in on that issue in this not even an issue that you brought up. i think it illustrates just how potent this issue is with people twisting to see donald trump on the one hand claim responsibility or credit for the dobbs decision and on the other hand try to do everything possible to say that he's against tobacco away from the abortion issue i think it's a

huge issue in the 2024 election. it starts with a trained imbalance. if we ship our dollars out of the country because were buying everything those dollars come back. they come back with a biased stock any american company and they have partial control. it comes back when they make loans to american companies. it's very hard to savor going to bring in all this stuff and you're going to get dollars but were going to prohibit you from doing anything with those dollars. those dollars are going to find them well hopefully will be used to buy american products but we export so much less than we input that instead it comes back as we owe them money or they own our company over the -- or they

own our land. host: rob, the house gathering early. >> i live in california because it's been different foreign affairs you talking about taxes and the representatives about that. let me see does we don't care about those issues. the economy is terrible we have no infrastructure and were talking about -- host: i'm going to jump in. they want you members of congress working on the economy and other issues. guest: sounds like a lot of my