♪ host: good morning, it's friday, july 14. various communities around the country have been suffering from blood, intense heat and tornadoes.

last month was the hottest june on record globally and john kerry is headed to china next week to restart climate discussions. this first hour, we are asking for your thoughts on the administrations climate policy. if you think they go too far, call (202) 748-8000, if you say the policies don't go far enough, (202) 748-8001, and just right, the number is (202) 748-8002. you can send us a text at (202) 748-8003 be sure to send your first name and your city and state and we are on social media on facebook and twitter and instagram. welcome to today's to our "washington journal," the house will gavel in at 9:00 a.m. eastern but this hour, we are taking your calls on climate policy and we will start with biden climate envoy john kerry

who was at the house foreign affairs committee yesterday and he sparred with republican congressman scott perry over climate. [video clip] >> because we have put, i forget the exact number of tons, liens of tons of co2 and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, and every day we are adding more and so every day the heat is going up and we have to figure out how we will tame the monster here. the only way to do that is to reduce emissions on an ongoing basis to get control of the current level of emissions we have created -- >> sir, with all due respect, you been through this before, what is the correct amount? i don't want to have a history lesson about what people don't care about. it changes every day. >> secretary, you probably know that for approximately 200 million years -- what's the

parts per million now? >> about 400. >> for 200 million years, 2000 parts per nature, did mother nature get it wrong for 200 million years? >> here is difference, there were periods where all the scientists who deal with climate acknowledge there have been moments on the planet which is billions of years old in which there was greater heat. >> tell me, quickly. >> human beings are creating this. we are creating this. >> during these periods of time where it was 2000 parts per million, life existed. >> not human beings walking around. >> one of the lowest periods in life existing on the planet. in december of 2022, you said we

need to remove 1.6 trillion tons of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. the cost for that is about $1000 per ton or 1.6 quadrillion dollars. you said you didn't know but since 2015, about 500 billion tons have been emitted into the atmosphere. during that same time, if you look at the temperature graph, this is from noaa, the temperature has gone down. this is from the nasa satellite, the temperature has gone down. you want to have the american taxpayer, my constituents having a hard time affording groceries and paying for a car, buy a new home, spend 1.6 quadrillion dollars to fix a problem that a, doesn't exist and as a matter of fact, you might be exacerbating because it's unknown at this time the low level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere that

might actually destroy life. plant life, as you know, plant life all depends on co2 and if we kill it, we are done, too. >> let me just say i don't agree with what you are saying for any number of reasons. i don't have time to go into all of them but i will tell you that the difference between the periods in terms of heat and human input is night and day. number two, why do you think wondered 95 countries in the world, their prime ministers, their presidents -- >> because they are exaggerating like you, sir. >> that's a pretty shocking statement, if you believe all the scientists in the world,. >> not all scientists agree with you. it's not about agreement or

consensus. host: we are talking about climate policies and what you think of the present climate policies and we are taking your calls. here is the washington post about the heat situation. let's start with dan from georgetown, massachusetts. caller: thank you for having me on. i find it quite astonishing in this day and age with all the access we have for information at our fingertips and everything that we are talking about the earth whether -- the earth's weather and climate but we are

not talking about what's going on with the sun. did you know that right now, we are in the peak of an 11 year solar cycle? these solar cycle peaks, the sun gets a lot of sunspots. the output of the sun is very intense right now. it's at a peak of an 11 year cycle. the only thing in the universe right now that keeps our planet in this goldilocks zone of not too hot, not too cold is the son. if the sun wasn't there, we would be a ball of ice. host: the bottom line is, do you not think that humans are causing global warming? caller: i think there are other factors that pale compared --

yes, i believe humans cutting down forests and sucking oil out of the planet and burning that, we are not doing any good for the planet with that and i've been on this program talking before about what oil does in our planet. host: let's get to the bottom line, what do you think of the president policy and climate change? caller: i think intentionally, our government and other governments are leaving out an awful lot of information that has a direct impact on our planet and its temperature and its space weather specifically. it's the solar cycle. host: we got it.

steve in oak ridge, tennessee, good morning. caller: good morning, i talked to you about a month ago. i'm a retired science teacher and i talked about perspective and how people see things differently. their perspective may not be exactly correct but to date, i want to do a little science lesson on this call the law of conservation of matter. i hope this will help you. a gallon of gasoline weighs 7.5 pounds. if you burn that, you will have five pounds of water and 2.5 pounds of carbon dioxide. every year, fuel is burned. to a certain degree natural gas so there is a billion gallons per day burned worldwide, you are creating 5 billion gallons,

5 billion pounds of water and 2.5 william pounds of carbon dioxide. this is proven science. if you think we are not changing the makeup of the atmosphere to our detriment --host: what is the best way to handle that? what you think of carbon capture technology and things like that? caller: if it ever gets here, that could help people don't realize that every day, the oceans absorb millions and millions of pounds of carbon dioxide. that's changing the acidity of the oceans. the cutting back is the only way to do it. people call in and talk about the sun but that doesn't have a lot to do with it. the fact is, the earth has always been a warming period and there are events that cause it

to change. over the past 200,000 years, every major cooling event has followed a massive volcanic event. the last time that happened was in 535. the sun was only 1/3 as bright as it was for 30 years. host: take a look at this which is roll call.

we wonder what you think about that, has the administration been successful in climate policy? steve in miami, florida, good morning. caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call and who ray for c-span. if this were truly a climate crisis, why are we pursuing such a reckless policy in ukraine right now? host: sticking with the climate

policy, what do you think of those? caller: i think we need to get out of ukraine and start there. it's a policy crisis right there. we are heading into world war iii with this current administration. as citizens, we need to unite and stand up get these people out of power and come up with some sort of new policy that will get us out of ukraine which will lead us to -- host: off the subject, sve. let's look at the inflation reduction act. these are the climate provisions within that act.

we wonder what you think about that. if you like those or you think they go to our or you would like to see more, let's talk to john in santa paula, california. caller: good morning, everyone. i agree with all three callers who just called in. my point was going to be that to have a good climate change policy, you need two things, you need international cooperation and that would be india, china and russia and all these countries. the second one would be no wars. you cannot fight a war and have

-- and fight for climate change. right now, the climate program is doomed for failure. you can see by the graphs it's not making any dent at all. it really is because of the sun and the sun is getting hotter and bigger. it's turning into a red star and eventually mankind will be extinguished. the world will live longer than our species. my thought on climate change is why aren't we making it easy for everybody? why aren't we making guests cheap? white don't we use of the nuclear stuff? use it up because we have technology and bring the crisis down. why are we causing gas prices -- host: don't you think making gas

cheaper, let's say we could make gas cheaper that that would make the problem worse that there would be more emissions? caller: it's all on the tail end anyway. it's all a thousand years out anyway. host: because we are all going to die anyway? caller: yes. host: all right, philip in jackson, mississippi, go ahead. caller: good morning to all. what a good discussion to have because it's the most important discussion. if you can't live in the environment, what's the use of it all? my conclusion is that we are at least talking about it now. we did not talk about it before whether it was 20 years ago when we could have made the adjustment. i myself personally am very concerned about yesterday's information about the ocean temperatures and around the florida coast being 98 degrees.

does anybody understand the significance of that? i just don't think we get it. host: as far as what to do about it, what are your thoughts on the president's policies? caller: it's an emergency -- we need an emergency declaration and we need to explain to some of these people who don't seem to understand science that we can't live on a planet that has a temperature of venus. guy talked about the war is right on. all that heat energy that comes off of the ammunitions and we are acting like we are serious about fighting climate change? those aspects we can control and we can say declaration of peace for everyone for the existence of humanity on this planet so that we don't fall into an existential nightmare that's where we are. we are like 20 years late so we

have to catch up. host: got it, james in mechanicsburg, pennsylvania, good morning. caller: good morning. i guess we learned in the second grade that the distance from the earth to the sun is 93 million miles. the earth follows a certain orbit around the sun. but it's not always 93 million miles away. sometimes it might be 105 million and sometimes it's 85 million. i think people are getting a little confused. this has to do with the earth's orbit around the sun. nobody mentions it because it seems like it's impossible. sooner or later, we will have to develop technology to deal with it because it just going to get worse as time goes by. as we orbit around the sun, the orbit changes. host: what do you think needs to be done? caller: you have to get nasa and

scientific agencies to get together and come up with a technology to deal with it whether it means alternating the way the atmosphere works, maybe creating some kind of shield over the earth to deal with this. this is going to get worse. it's going to change back. it seems fantastic to say this but nobody ever discusses that area i think it is something worthwhile. how we deal with it in the future depends on technology and maybe ai can help us but this will get worse. host: let's take a look at social media.

alex is next, rockland, new york. caller: yes, good morning and thank you for taking my call. it's shocking. everybody calling except the one person that just said we really should take science seriously about global warming. i live in new york city and for the first time in my life, i haven't cap that tells me with the air quality is here because we have low ozone and smoke coming in from canada, heat zones in texas and we just had the capital of vermont lately flooded. we had upstate completely flooded with flash floods we just had. the clip you just played about john kerry, that is the

sentiment of republicans. just yesterday, you had somebody on who was a conservative republican talking about republicans want to get into the conversation of climate change but they feel that things are too radical. i just want to tell everybody and i called before and i explained to people, go to the ipcc website which is the u.n. panel with thousands of scientists that have agreed we are causing the global temperature of this planet to rise. no matter what we do, we have to bring him emissions. just recently, there was a project called maple that was able to take solar panels from outer space and beam energy back to earth. biden has to really invest in technology that will get us out of this mess. i feel electric cars is maybe a

small step. we need resources pulled out of the ground to make these batteries. i think we have to invest in technology that moves away from taking resources out of the nine it and being able to put it into technology that can basically harness energy from space and bring it to the planet. all of the listeners and watches of the program, forget your ideology. we are living through hell right now. we've had the hottest day of the year on july 4 which was the hottest day rick ordered in history. we've had the hottest month of recorded history. this is not something that will go away. if you feel we have war now, what you think will happen when resources dwindle and countries are battling for the little resources that are left? please educate yourselves. host: speaking of that, here is the website from noaa at

noaa.gov. you can visit that website to delve more into the numbers. says the world just filter through its hottest june in the 174 year global climate record. you can take a closer look at those numbers again at noaa.gov. dan is from louisville, kentucky, go ahead caller: there are some good comments but i think it's a boondoggle to me.

god set up the seasons and after summer is over, we are to have winter, fall and then winter. i remember back in the 70's, they said we will have an ice age. we've just been having spring, summer, winter and fall. that's all i have to say. host: vince is next from idaho falls, idaho. caller: hi, how are you doing? host: i'm doing ok. caller: great, yeah, i was listening to all the calls and i'm a little surprised that the national labs did not in a hold of some of those people. first of all, the arguments about the sun, that is not the issue. it has nothing to do with the sun. the sun's rays are coming in is always in it gets absorbed and released.

that gets trapped by co2. i spent my whole career as a chemical engineer so i understand this whole issue. the whole idea i think -- people will always talk about a boondoggle maybe the republican side of the house, fine. we even have people that believe in just don't understand with the issue is dead and how it works. john kerry and the biden administration can do a little bit more. host: like what? caller: a simple education. get a guy up there like you had fauci who went away but about what's taking place here. give them some basic science. the other guy talked about how fossil fuels make waste when

they burn. that goes into the atmosphere. that observed -- that absorb certain wavelengths of energy and like a greenhouse, it lets the energy come in but the energy being released from everything gets trapped. explain why this is warming up. i heard a guy mention ozone. ozone ain't got nothing to do with it or smog. it has nothing to do with global warming. it's a different problem. host: all right, got it. let's go back to biden's envoy john kerry who answered radix of the administration's climate policy -- who answered questions on the a ministration climate policy. [video clip] >> i want to take you to some of the opening statements and i wondered what your reaction was when someone said you are

carrying a far left radical agenda. i have to admit to you that if anybody thinks it's radical to care about the protection of this planet for future generations, sign me up. it reminds me of martin luther king and the letter from birmingham jail when he was called a radical and extremist. he said wasn't jesus a radical for love? i am the term radical whenever i am attacked that way and focus on something so were the. what are your thoughts? are you embracing some far left radical agenda? >> thank you for the opportunity to hang myself. [laughter] i think i am pursuing common sense for the political right or political left, republican or democrat. as i said, what we are looking at is something that was human

created. the problem we face right now comes from the way we inadvertently, the way the world developed starting in the middle of the 1800s with the industrial revolution and we've all benefited from it. americans, particularly have had the richest lives on the planet. because we have the best health care, so many different plusses that come with the development we were able to create. we have learned as a 1988, an alarm bell, a problem -- what you have been doing and taken for granted is actually destroying a lot of things on the planet. we lose about 8 million people per year to quality of air, lack of quality, air pollution. greenhouse gases are pollution. that pollution is having an impact on the lives of our fellow americans, negative

impact. we are now seeing, because of the warming that comes with the emissions piling up in this level of the atmosphere above the earth, it prevents the cooling from normally taking place and so this warming is now totally documented. everybody knows it's happening with humans creating it in the way we propel our cars, light our rooms and factories, heat our homes, that's what it is. it's the emissions. and if we can -- you got a simple choice here. you either stop making those emissions or you can do something with them that's useful and doesn't harm things. there is no proof to the date that we are able to do that. host: that's the administration climate envoy who heads to china next week to discuss i'm a change with china. we are taking your calls for the

next half hour on what you think about the biden administration's policy. the numbers are on your screen if they go too far. here is foxnews.com with this headline. we wonder what you think about that, andrew in scarborough, maine. andrew, you have to mute your tv. just talk on the phone. andrew? no? rick in northport, florida, go ahead. caller: hey, thanks for having

me on here. i am in the 24 camp. even that is a misnomer. it shouldn't have gone anywhere to begin with. you listen to the people that support the government policies, they constantly talk about on record for the guy talking about the hottest in my lifetime, whatever it was. that's an infinitesimal amount of time of the earth's history. as was mentioned in the clip you played earlier, we've had far higher co2 concentrations in earth history. who is to decide what the earth's perfect temperature is as if weather can be controlled or climate can be controlled? i bet most people would support these initiatives and don't realize that even nasa admits the world is getting greener. there is more areas for plant life to grow. people are worried about resources. why wouldn't you want more areas

of growth on the planet? host: i'm curious what you think about all the climate disasters, the forest fires, the floods, the hurricanes that seem to -- that are getting worse. caller: they aren't getting worse. if you look over the history, recorded history which is a super tiny timeframe, it's a myth that hurricanes are getting worse and all that. there is more damage because there is more people. there is more people living along the coast, property that can be damaged by storms, tornadoes or whatever. it's another long line away. you know the old saying about how stats can lie and that's exactly what's going on. people just don't have a proper

view of history. they assumed that all of earth's history is wrapped up in their lifetime or maybe the last 150 years or so. it's nonsensical. all this stuff we watch them all the politicians, they will avoid telling you when something turns from weather to climate. they will have an official timetable on that. host: let's go to rose city, michigan, i, claudia. caller: hello there. i think the biden administration, if they are worried about the globe, they need to put the fires out in canada. i think we need to go back to glass from plastic. a lot of things this administration can do but they are not doing it. there is a lot of pollution coming out of ukraine right now. we should let the earth take care of ukraine. if biden is so persistent, maybe

he should declare war against russia. i think there is a whole lot they can do that they are not doing. they are doing the wrong things, thank you very much. host: we will talk to mark next in hampstead, maryland, good morning. caller: good morning, the second to last caller kind of hit it on the head when he pointed out that when they point out the stats and say climate is getting worse, they don't point out that things cost more. an area in florida may get hit with a hurricane causing $20 million worth of damage. 10 years later, it will be $50 million worth of damage because prices go up, the population is ever expanding, plus we build in places where we did not use to build houses and have people living. host: aside from the damage done

by climate disaster, the number of hurricanes of increased. what do think about that? caller: that's actually incorrect. the number of hurricanes has stayed about the same. difference is in the last 120 years, our ability to survive these things has actually improved 97% in the last 110 years. the reason why is because of technology and because we've learned to adapt. more people actually die in the cold and they do the heat. it's a huge difference. one of the problems is this idea climate change came about 75 years ago and was started by the progressives in the same people who brought us eugenics. it's ultimately an antihuman cult. they do not like human beings. host: take a look at this from

britannica.com. it's an article that says -- peer is john from north dakota? caller: good morning. i am not a climate scientist but i can tell you that our last winter was fantastic. we had almost the biggest record snowfall of north dakota's

history. we missed out by about one inch. this summer has been unbelievably beautiful. the nights are cool, the days are below 80, we've got rain practically every week, we are out of our drug for the first time in a long time -- out of our drought for the first time in a long time, the crops will be great. we just had the one coal powered powerplant that powers us, the city right across the river, that was just converted 100% to natural gas. we have a lot of oil here and a lot of fracking. host: bismarck, north dakota

sounds lovely especially in the summer but what do you think about other parts of the country? it looks like death valley which is the hottest place on earth will go over 130 degrees. caller: it is called death valley. there is probably a reason for that. host: but it's even hotter than it usually is. caller: well, it would be a good place to visit in the wintertime. i wouldn't go there in the summertime. as far as the cities go, with all the cement in the parking lots, that captures a lot of heat right there. i do have one thing to say about electric cars -- in the wintertime, when it doesn't snow that much, sometimes i take off my leaf blower that runs on a lithium battery. in the summertime, i can get through my whole property on one battery charge.

in the wintertime, when it's 20 degrees or colder, that they will only last about 10 minutes. electric cars are not going to work in any kind of climate that's 20 degrees or below and that includes north dakota. it just knock on a work in the wintertime. host: anthony in sierra vista, arizona, what do you think? caller: thank you. day 45 since my last call. we definitely could do more. i want to speak to effectiveness. where are you effective? if you find the heat makes you ineffective, you got to understand that the hotter the earth gets, the more disadvantaged you will be. i will use an example how people talk about history. how do we learn about history? we look back and say -- the

archaeologists say where do we get the most information from when we find fossils and animals that have been frozen. guess what? we learn more about them. if you look at when the earth gets hotter and we go and look at the effect of it, right here in my hometown, trying to keep the grass cut on her property, it hits a rock and sets of fire that almost destroyed the local town except for the effort of the commander and local firefighters in the interagency agreement. coming from a background of military, do you know that when we are trying to send combat forces to a location, if the weather is too hot, you have to cut back on the payload that the plane can take.

you have to cut back on the amount of equipment for troops and most importantly, do you know that at certain times of the day, you cannot fire weapons because they get too hot. there is definitely not enough being done. any questions? host: no questions, thank you. let's look at this text -- this is from the house foreign affairs committee --

this is from congressman dan user -- david is next from st. petersburg, florida, good morning. caller: hey there, i've been building sea walls and docs in marinas all my life. i come from a fifth generation seawall builder. i have watched the tides and the water flow and i've noticed it has gone up around four inches in the past 20 years. i believe in doing things that are going to be good for our climate and i believe every

american should have their hand in it and be involved. what i don't believe in is the overreach and the regulations that the biden administration has done. what they are doing now, senator kerry and things like that, these people are not qualified to even talk about this. host: give me specifics about what you think is overreach. what do you not like about the current policy? caller: i don't like the fact that we have to buy oil from other countries. we have enough oil here. we could have transitioned into electric cars slowly and do it the right way. it's just like the cockpit door on the jet airliners, we don't do anything about it until

something happens. that's why i believe the biden administration is doing the right thing when it comes to climate change. we don't go in and because the fuel prices to go up on the taxpayers backs. weekend do it in a transitional, with more professionals involved and really delve into it and do it the right way instead of just jumping into it. you know what i mean? that's my opinion. host: ok, matt and wilmington, north carolina, what do you think? caller: it's so crazy that people are getting all upset about this. i've been keeping fish tanks my whole life and i think of the earth as a fish tank. i know for a fact that if i don't keep my pollution down my fish tank, my fish diet and that's what will happen to us if we don't continue to try to

evolve in a way that's sustainable. we've got to start somewhere but we been starting somewhere. 50 years ago, they were talking about pollution and things got better with efficiency in cars. host: what do you think needs to be done that the biden administration is not doing now? caller: i support the biden administration and i would like to continuously educate people. somebody made a good point -- constantly educate people and the fact that we need to do this. all the big businesses rely on consuming energy and admitting pollution weathers the people in the oil business, they want to keep pumping oil because they want to going to their golf worse on the weekend. they want to keep making money. it's really sad because we are a

fish tank and people have to realize that if we don't bear fish tank queen, we will -- clean we will die. host: here is some tweets from lawmakers -- what do you think about biden's policy and how the money is being spent? dan is next. caller: i agree that the president, his policies and

bringing light to the fact that there is climate change, i don't know what's causing it men were nature but i agree with the president i think it's long overdue since the 1960's when the hippies were trying to say we should change to green energy and they discredited them because of the way they look. the one thing i wish the president would do as well as the policies moneywise to address climate change is bringing light to the fact that insurance companies are moving out of florida, insurance is getting very high in the coastal areas. i think people in general in our country and in the world need to start realizing the fact that instead of the property along the coast being so high-priced and being attractive and people going to it, we should start

educating and running a campaign to discourage people from living on the coast and start transitioning away. over the history, earth has changed and people have had to migrate for climate reasons. i think this is what needs to happen. people need to get away from the coastline and start moving in land. no matter what we do, we are not going to immediately change those effects that are going on. host: all right, let's talk to david next in denison, texas, good morning. caller: good morning. before i get going and you cut me off, i want to mention the book unsettled which was written in 2021. he was the deputy science

advisor for the obama administration. in 2013, as a result on behalf of that, he became disturbed at the interpretation being given to the reports being generated by the ipcc. ther itcc and other groups. this book is something everybody needs to read. he is a democrat and is not -- and is not a trump supporter and explains -- it's a little bit of a heart rate but it's well worth it. it's well done but it has a whole lot of detail and it and he explains the distortions and the valuations. his ultimate thing which ties in with other reports that have been done but not ordered is that by the time we get to 2100 at the end of the century, even the worst case climate forecast is negligible, it's next to

nothing. he explains how these reports are being distorted in great detail. people talk about tornadoes. they say the frequency is up and he says that's not true and the reason it happens or has happened is that the records they use, we haven't got weather radar to go back that far. nobody for the most part was reporting level zero tornadoes. they are very minor, they mostly don't affect anybody and sometimes they don't come down-to-earth. 20% of the tornadoes reported in the 30 years before radar, only 20% of the tornadoes were shown as type 0. two years that they had radar, 60% of the tornadoes that were reported are type 0. host: going back to the climate

policies of the administration, do you think there shouldn't be any money spent on trying to address climate change? caller: that's not what i'm trying to say. this is the punchline. they undercounted the tornadoes from the prior period because they didn't know how many zeros there were. they have to take the most current data which is using the most advanced instruments and compare it to times when there is less quality instruments and no instruments. they have to make adjustments to this data to get a comparison. they have created an apples to apples comparison showing the number tornadoes prior to this current period was way higher because they adjust by the number of type 0 tornadoes and that's the type of distortion we get. i believe in climate change but i think most of it is caused by

the earth, by the sun, all kinds of things. host: we got it but we got to move on. go right ahead from tallahassee, florida. charles? caller: hello. host: go right ahead. caller: i don't think we are doing enough. i drive a hybrid i think we are not doing enough because they are letting the fluid flow around the trees and how about the planes? all these planes are throwing out pollution into the ocean and we don't say nothing about that. host: ok, charles. speaking of planes, want to show you this clip by republican congressman michael wolf questioning john kerry about his use of private planes. [video clip] >> here is the issue, this is

not some kind of partisan gotcha. what we are asking americans is to make serious sacrifices as we transition for the common good and your family or yourselves are flying around on private jets. that actually hurts your cause. >> afford me the right at least to set the record straight. i do not fly on a private jet. i do not -- i fly commercially. i have flown five times in the last two and .5 years onmiollair or some of you travel on, five times otherwise all of my trips or commercial. >> have you flown on a private

jet since you took this position? >> possibly wants. -- five -- possibly once. >> i think you need to take the broader point of how this appears to the american people. >> let me tell you why. we are not asking americans not to fly. you are trying to create an unequal thing. >> you need to lead by example. >> which is why i fly commercial. host: that was junk carry, the president's climate envoy -- that was john kerry, the president's climate envoy. conrad is next in pennsylvania, good morning. caller: i've been on here twice already in the past speaking about chemtrail's in the microwave system we have.

there is two different systems we been modifying on weather and anyone can look it up under modification. the chemtrail's refers to what was started by a guy in 1944 and later on picked up by a doctor in 1948. it's good for farmers but on forcefully, we are using aluminum oxide which is not innocent being friend into the skies. host: you're saying the united states is changing the world's weather and the world temperature? caller: no, we are not the only country that has this system. unfortunately, the other system is a microwave system known as a cyber weapon. we can activate volcanoes, we can start the rainforest through

lightning. that creates all of the carbon we are experiencing with or experiencing today. there is a tremendous amount of carbon. host: patty in north branford, connecticut, go ahead. caller: thank you. first of all, we do not mess with mother nature. anybody who listens to john kerry, the guy is in a visual lawyer and he got the job because he's flying around on his wife's money. i think this is disgusting. the only reason he got this job is he was the first one to come out and back joe biden. host: regarding the policies themselves, what do you think of the biden climate policy? caller: i don't think anybody knows what to do with this. this is all new to us. everybody's got different ideas. that's why i say don't listen to john kerry, he is a gigolo,

thank you. host: ed in michigan, good morning. caller: good morning. host: what do you think? caller: i want to -- i am an engineer dealing with a lot of the electric vehicles and i want to talk about that for a few seconds. host: go ahead. caller: my company does benchmarking of electric vehicles. they do all vehicles but they do a lot of electric vehicles. benchmarking is where we tear the vehicle apart, check it for weight and a better design on the vehicle. our main focus now is in china. you wouldn't believe how far china is ahead on electric vehicles. they are almost light years ahead in electric vehicles.

if we do not keep on the path of growth on electric vehicles, we're are just going to fall behind. our technology will fall behind. host: why do you think we are so behind china in electric vehicle technology? caller: because they have spent so much money on electric vehicles because they see a technology that is the future and they spend the money on it. they probably have about 25 or 35 electric eagles ready to go -- electric vehicles ready to go. they just can't export into the united states but they export them to other countries. host: would you like to see more money in the budget for electric vehicle technology and promoting tax caller: not only electric

vehicles but hydrogen two. hydrogen will be more for the trucking industry because of the way you have to have certain methods to develop hydrogen and that works better for trucking. they are spending a lot of money in the trucking industry to develop hydrogen. host: we appreciate your call but we are out of time and that's the time we have for this segment. you can get and during open for them up next, we will be joined by the national governors association governor phil murphy and incoming nga president. we will speak about that meeting in atlantic city and how governors are trying to keep it altogether. we will be right back.

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where the national governors association is being hosted. tell us about the importance, the role of the nga of bringing governors together. gov murphy: this is the last organization where we can find common ground across the aisle. i have seen that as vice chair and now with senator hutchinson. i think it's a credibly important we find common ground and we have been able to do that. it's been a hallmark of this organization. i am optimistic it will continue to be an be a role model for civil discourse going forward.

host: if you would like to call and you can do so by party affiliation for democrats (202) 748-8000, for republicans (202) 748-8001, for independents (202) 748-8002. what did you focus on this year as chair and what progress have you made on those initiatives? gov murphy: i wanted to strengthen mental health among the youth. my wife had an initiative for infant health. we acknowledge we have a challenge in those areas but we accept the fact that there is a playbook that governors can use

and apply and we presented those playbooks in atlantic city. i think we've made an enormous amount of progress. host: why the focus on youth mental health? gov murphy: you could make the argument 3.5 years ago it was a noble initiative. you add to that a pandemic and there is no question that our kids have suffered enormous stress over the past number of years and we know we need to focus on this whether it is money in our budget, training up folks more broadly so they can have awareness on the issue. whatever it might be we all know this is a challenge that exists and i think we have delivered a

playbook that has very tangible, pragmatic steps that can be taken in any state in america had deal with a. . gov cox: let me just add to what governor murphy said, the work being done on mental health is important to all of our states. we are learning from each other and we are grateful for his leadership and first lady murphy's leadership on this critical issue. we are focusing, my wife and i on this idea of healthy conflict and disagreeing better. i don't need to tell you that right now in our country we are seeing a toxic divide. we're heading into the most divisive election of our

lifetime and sadly, in many of our institutions, we have forgotten how to disagree the right way. how to debate, persuade, help each other understand where were coming from and why we believe what we believe. this is not just another civility initiative. our nation was founded on profound disagreement. disagreement is important but there is healthy and toxic disagreement and we are seeing so much toxic disagreement. i think there is an exhausted majority out there. i believe there is nothing more un-american than hating americans and we need to get back to those things that made our country special. host: we just talked to governor murphy about the impact on youth.

what do you think this negativity and politics and the nastiness and politics, how has that impacted young people? gov cox: over the past months i visited highest goals -- high schools in utah and had this conversation with students and what i realized is that if you were 12 years old in 2015, this is all you know. you think this is what politics is in our country. it's about tearing people down. it's not really about issues and that's very dangerous. i hear from young people that they hate politics and want nothing to do with it because of what they are seeing out there. we have a unique opportunity to appeal to a younger generation

who are tired of this but i don't think it's just the younger generation. but we see on social media and talk radio and cable news, people are tired of what they are seeing and looking for something better. as governors, we work together on these issues and they can provide counter programming to the negativity we see in the election. host: regarding your partnership at the national level and federal level, how was i going? do democratic governors need to be in lockstep with a democratic president? gov murphy: i think we all have our party affiliations. i am a big supporter of the president, unequivocally.

but i think we have our own, independent realities both politically and from a governing standpoint. i think that's why governors have never mattered more. it matters to your governor is, where you work and i could not endorse more strongly governor cox'initiative here. enough of the screaming with each other. we know we have our principles and passions. we know we have partisan affiliations the let's find a way to civilly debate the issues that divide us and come to some kind of resolution. this country was founded on profound disagreement. let's do it in the right way and not the wrong way. host: we always hear the state

of the state addresses from governors around the country. how often is there agreement over the many states over what the big issues are that you are grappling with? is it regional or state specific? gov cox: there are some state specific and regional differences. i used to believe that all politics is local. i don't believe that anymore. i believe all politics are national. i do believe most of the biggest issues are national and i think there is a lot of agreement about what those issues are. that is one of the benefits of the national governors association is that we can work on those.

the great thing about being a governor is that so much of what we do is not partisan. potholes and bridges are not partisan. we have to get stuff done, unlike congress. we are not afraid to learn from each other. there are differences, that is important. but this is an opportunity for us to work on those. one of the realizations of why i chose this issue is that the biggest issues we agree on, immigration, health care, energy, we can't solve those if we can't have conversations with each other. i actually believe this is an issue that supersedes everything else. if we ever get to solve those biggest issues we will have to figure out how to disagree the right way. host: patty is up first from new

jersey, good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. hello to governor murphy. i live in atlantic city and i am so honored to have this opportunity to tell you that i think you are a great governor. he is doing a great job and thank you. gov murphy: can we in the program right now? host: you're not that lucky. caller: i live in south jersey and i've been calling my local congressman, my mother is 90 and she was so concerned about his rhetoric on the radio about older people she wanted to talk to him and he has returned her phone call. she is a registered republican. host: what comments are you

talking about? caller: i wanted to as governor, i know this is his last term and i'm sorry about that. who was going to be put up as a democratic candidate because what's going on in south jersey and new jersey, is crazy stuff and we need someone like governor murphy. gov murphy: i want patty to be my spokesperson. gov cox: i didn't know you had a sister named patty. gov murphy: god bless your mom. hopefully this call will

generate a phone call from the senator. i think there will be a significant large field on both the democratic and republican side. that will include at least one or may be more nominations in south jersey. i think it will be competitive and crowded. this state like any state owes its residents and voters in the airing of the issues. both see where everyone stands and go through that open, transparent process. i am highly confident we will see that over the next few years. i still have 2.5 years life. don't go anywhere, i still need to. host: jesse is next in albuquerque, new mexico. caller: good morning gentlemen. i am a huge fan of the nga, i

learned about you guys a college and i hope one day i am sitting amongst you gentlemen and ladies. this next year i am teaching history, government and economics. i'm excited about that. you were talking about youth mental health. i was wondering what you think about these three things being helpful towards youth mental health and that would be smaller class sizes, cameras in the classroom and lowering the voting age. gov cox: smaller class sizes, the government -- the answer has to be yes.

cameras in the classroom? i haven't really thought about that. my gut says i'm not a big fan of thought but let me think about that. and lowering the voting age i like. a friend of mine has been pitching this idea and the concept is, i will be 66 next month. i hope i have a few more rounds around the track. if you are 18, 16, 22 you might have a hundred years. elections have far more consequences for that demographic in mind. i am open-minded to lowering the voting age. gov cox: thank you for teaching, god bless her teachers. those are critical subjects. we have a lot of kids in utah and were really good at having kids. we have larger class sizes.

that's something we have struggled with. we've had huge pay increases for our teachers so were trying to do more. i haven't given much thought to cameras in the classroom. transparency is important to getting parents involved and i think it's important to have parents understand the partnership between education and parents. i am a little less excited about lowering the voting age. one of the biggest problems we have is getting young people to vote. i believe we need more specifics in the classroom to help young people understand the history of our country, the good and the bad parts of our history. we need to bend that arc of history towards justice and we are continually trying to improve our country from the

beginning and why voter participation is so important and being an informed voter is so important. i think there is so much we can do to get young people more involved specifically. host: we have at work -- edward from new jersey. caller: what a great farm i get to speak to my government. i'm glad your updating the unemployment system. we need to open up the marijuana business a little more. senator cox, how do you guys push back against the federal system of lawmakers pushing conspiracy theories and whatnot that crowd the state issues we all care about? host: we will get a response.

gov cox: if you look back to the founding of our country and the federal system. the states were set up to be a co-equal branch of government. i think that over time the federal government has gotten much more powerful than the states. the states rights pieces very important. we were diligent to push back on that. that's an area you will often see bipartisan agreement on making sure states have the ability to make certain decisions. when it comes to conspiracy theories, the social media it's gotten much easier for conspiracy theories to take root. those are things were constantly battling. i had hoped by the time i got to

governor i would be included in some of these things. sadly, there are some things that over time are true. finding truth is really difficult because there is no source of truth. the media is more dispersed than ever before. it is so much easier to hear things i want to hear despite hearing other voices. i can just mute or block anyone who disagrees with me. i think it's important we learn what the other side thinks and why they think it. without hatred and animosity, trying to get to the core we believe different things. the more we reach out to people who are different from us the more we can find common ground. turn off the conspiracy, get to

know your neighbors and people who are different from you and that is how we can get back to governing and solving the biggest policy issues in our country. host: we have a question on twitter that says with the dnc, rnc and media wanting divisiveness how can we and the governors fight this and expect better from these entities? gov cox: i love governor murphy to answer this one as well. this is what we are up against. every incentive in politics is toward divisiveness. the crazier the take, the more attention you are going to get on social media, on cable news. the more likes of follow's are going to get. i am pretty boring when i'm preaching this idea of unifying and not tearing into other down.

is harder to get more oxygen. the media gets more clicks. is this continual spiral we find ourselves on. we have been working with stanford university, dartmouth and others who have studied this. they study depolarization and interventions that can help us see each other and a dignified way, as human beings. it's up to us as individual americans. i don't think we can rely on our politicians to fix this piece. if i am hating people on facebook that this what i should expect from politicians. everyone of us has a duty to be better to attack ideas and not people. as governors, we have an opportunity.

we will encourage our fellow governors to do something that stanford found works and that is to film videos from people from the other side of the aisle. we will releasing one of those. i am going to be the new chair of the national governors association. the governor from colorado will be vice. i hope you share it, i hope it goes viral. the idea is your maca uncle" knees can have a conversation and not hate each other. we have a duty to play but governors can be a good example. gov murphy: how can i follow your maca uncle" knees? ga uncle and woke niece.

that's a great example of what we need to be more like. this guy and i are from different parties that we come at this from different perspectives we are in this line of business for the same reason. we want to make our stay so strong as we can. it doesn't mean we won't disagree and don't have different views on the topic. there is so much more that unites us than divides us. let's turn the page to get to a better american. host: must talk to sydney from florida, a democrat. caller: i applaud your guests

for working together. because i think the governors are in the unique position along with mayors to be able to have an impact on the people that they serve when you look at what is happening with the representatives of washington. you have people who will start out, that is what i noticed. things shifted years ago when i heard mitch mcconnell who stood up on media and said our job as republicans is to make sure this president is here for one term. he said that on several occasions he did that with obama and biden. obama had to terms and did really well but the stage was

set for the republicans to fight against, slow down the progress that was going to be made for the people. everything that was set to work out based on the president and their cabinets was worked against to slow down and make it not as progressive as it would've been which would've been good for the people. there was a fight going on so people could make sure that this government did not look good so they could come in and take over for the next one. host: let's get a response, when you think about the divisiveness against congressional lawmakers? gov cox: i think it exists a lot more in washington then in the states. we have both said that i believe

that. sydney makes a point that i agree with emphatically which is governors and mayors are the chief executives. we have the balance of budget on her box. any decisions on her back. it's our responsibility and akin to being a chief executive and my suspicion is thus why were doing the jobs were doing. i had a predecessor, chris christie, he and i disagree on a lot of things but we both live in new jersey. we wanted new jersey to be great. he said to me privately, i'm not going anywhere. i'm staying in my house in new jersey. i root for you to be successful because of your successful that means jersey is and we are as residents. he and i disagree on the laundry

list of stuff but to his credit, thus the right position. let's root for each other to succeed. it doesn't mean we give up our partnership or our principles. the success at a country or state level is what we should all be rooting for. host: michael s and pennsylvania, a republican. caller: i wanted to have my hat to you demonstrating how we can get along in this country. what a great neighbor new jersey is especially with their beaches. my question is this and i know it's difficult to let go of the current leaders in each party. imagine for a minute that donald trump and joe biden are not the nominees. who do you guys see in either

party as the next person up? my question is, theoretically there is no joe biden or donald trump who was the next person up? gov cox: you just described dreams i've been having for months. i just have to say this that recent polling shows 60% of republicans are not excited about the current front runner in 20% of democrats are not excited about it. this is the least exciting election in our lifetime. i get excited talking about the next layer of candidates. what i will say, i'm a big fan of governors and there are six republican governors are former governors that are running for

the republican nomination. all of them some have positives, some have negatives. i am a big fan of governors because they have that chief executive experience and someone serving in the legislature, it's different than congress or state legislatures. governors have to get things done. that is what we are best at. if you look over the course of history some of our best presidents have been governors. i would always say if you're looking for his next i would look to the governors. probably in both parties for opportunities to stand up in 24 and 28. there is governor youngkin in virginia he was popular and gotten some attention. i think there are a lot of options on the republican side.

i'm excited for the future as we move to new candidates. gov murphy: i think governors are a great training ground for higher office. i am a joe biden guy but if you look down the road, you look at a great team bench that begins with governors. host: what advice do you have for governor cox as he takes over the organization? gov murphy: he needs so little advice for me he will be an extraordinary chair. he in us first lady or extraordinary. his initiative is more timely than ever, bless disagree better.

let's find a way to havoc constructive, civic discourse with opposing views where the outcome is to be asked outcome for america. he will be an extraordinary chair. i love this guy. host: that is governor phil murphy democrat of new jersey and outgoing governors chair an incoming chair governor cox of utah. think you both for joining us today. gov murphy: thank you. gov cox: thank you. host: we are covering the closing new conference at 10:00 a.m.. the national governors association brings is annual meeting to a close with this session focused on political partisan ship.

you can watch that live starting at 10:00 a.m. on c-span2, c-span now our free app or online at c-span.org. that is it for this session. we will have open forum after the break. you can start calling in now. we will be right back. ♪

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taking your calls for 25 minutes. up until the end of the program it is said to hour washington journal. i want to show you this before i take some of your calls. this is usa today, secret service concludes investigation into white house cocaine without identifying the culprit. they were unable to determine who brought it into the building nor do they have any suspects. the secret service said the investigation is closed due to a lack of evidence. they found no dna or fingerprints on the baggie of cocaine. providing no leads into who brought the cocaine into the white house and the review also included sifting through surveillance footage and visitor logs of several hundred

individuals who had access to the lobby. without evidence they cannot sift through hundreds of individuals where the baggie was discovered. this is a response from kevin mccarthy, you can tell me in the white house with 24 hour surveillance you don't know who left it there. the american people think that is a farce. we will go to your phones. greg is in las vegas. caller: hi, how are you? host: good. caller: i'm calling in regards to the environmental situation. they don't want us to use our gas stoves to cook a hamburger

but they can manage to send rocket ships to the moon. i'm sure that it uses a lot of energy and i'm sure that does a lot of pollution. i don't know if you noticed, i said to cook a hamburger because they don't like cows either. the only thing about sending rockets to the moon is said john kerry, joe biden and hunter biden aren't on the rocket ships. host: walter is next to baltimore. walter, go ahead. caller: forgive me for the ignorance of america. you wonder why we are separated. on fox news it might've been wide in order hunter biden. it's outrageous that the cohost on that show, on that fake new show tried to correct it and make it joking. the ignorance of

america was selecting 45. i am not worried about that because the self-direction happened in biden was elected. for two years, over 250 years we have suffered from separation from the harlan crow's and we see a supreme court system the stop working for america. it is working for the elites. when we talk about the oligarchs of russia taking their yachts. i want to know if they're going to put that to our own house and the behavior harlan crow displayed. host: the houses gaveling in,

the house approves gop hardliner changes to military spending bill ensuring a fight with democrats. one further travel cost for out-of-state abortions. republicans approve controversial amendments to the defense act. guaranteeing a fight with democrats during final passage where speaker mccarthy will be with more votes to come. including banning the pentagon for approving travel cost for out-of-state abortions and medical procedures for trans military members. they overwhelmingly expressed support for the ukraine. they approved the funding

approved by mtt. marjorie taylor greene. mccarthy's patients for his conference at his leadership teams to satisfy the right flank without dooming the legislation. president biden was asked at a news conference of finland about the political fight on the defense policy bill including republicans tommy tuberville blocking the hold on military promotions. >> you see the gop grappling with tying abortion rights to defense issues including military promotions.

what is this say about u.s. military readiness it would you be able to talk with him about solutions? >> i would hope to talk so he could change his ridiculous position. he's jeopardizing military readiness. i expect republicans to stand up and do something about it. the idea that we don't have a chairman of the joint chiefs of staff in all these promotions that are in abeyance right now. the idea that we are injecting into fundamental foreign policy decisions what is the domestic social debate on social issues. it is totally irresponsible in my view. i am confident that the

mainstream republican party does not support what he is doing. but they have to stand up and be counted. that is how it ends. host: that was the president and finland and it is open forum. robert is next, in republic -- a republican in florida. caller: last wednesday world record was sent in florida that recorded a 19 foot python slightly west of naples, florida. this was caught by three guys who live in the area. the main guy is a student from ohio state. this past the record of 18 foot python, and 19 foot python. come down because desantis has

opened the florida python challenge which will be held from august 4-august 13. host: and python's are invasive to florida is that whether being caught? caller: in the last 24 years, more than 18,000 python's have been removed from south florida. in 19 foot snake, that's a big snake. host: joseph is an independent and florida. caller: i have a couple of suggestions i would like to pass along to lawmakers and their staff who might be listening. this is regarding medical information and benefits that

are paid out primarily through the government and things like medicare/medicaid. it seems ridiculous to me how hard patients, doctors and all the different institutions involved in providing health care. all the trouble we put them through taking it from place to place. patients go through enough. they should not have to work so hard to get labs from one doctor to another doctor. they should not have to be the mules who have to do it. we are electronically connected. let's get past the fear of personal information being finished. -- phished.

when it comes to money being spent on our behalf. i don't understand why medicare, medicaid don't do a good job of telling people how much they are paying for their care. i get care, i don't know how much i paid for. i don't care what anyone else pays. if we want to save money and we need to save money because 20% of gdp, 2 trillion a year is spent on health care. it is not sustainable, it's way too big to fail. we need more transparent and hold ourselves accountable. i would like to see our elected officials put their hands together and work out a patient bill of rights so we have the kind of transparency. host: let's go to joseph next to michigan democrat.

caller: i've a comment about the previous guest relating to their work program. i am in detroit, we don't have a lot of work programs. particularly, young people. host: john is next in pounding hill, virginia, and independent. caller: i have a suggestion for guest on climate change or whatever. i saw a gentleman on one of the other stations about a week ago and i don't know his name but he was the one who started the organization greenpeace. he went through the whole history of the earth's climate and we learn this in high school. the earth is 5 billion years old and there have been ages where the earth was completely covered

in ice. there were stages where there were no icecaps whatsoever. basically, we are not affecting climate that much. if we stop all greenhouse emissions the earth will continue to warm and we're just going through a phase. there's nothing we can do about it. i think we are being brainwashed that we have this much control over the climate. the earth goes through phases. i think it would be beneficial to have this cast on. host: from new hampshire. caller: thank you for taking my call. on to joe biden.

the democrats and joe biden need to get out of office. i am a homeless person due to biden's reckless policies. congress needs to get their house in order. host: when you say that you're homeless because of his policy can you elaborate? caller: during the pandemic, people were doing good. the last three years has shown who represents who and who is who and what is what. joe biden came into office and we are doing a lot worse than anyone else in this country. until congress gets our house in order and our currency stops crashing. we have a serious problem on our hands in the american people need to wake up.

host: bill is in jacksonville, florida. good morning. caller: i came in late on your governor's presentation and i just wanted to say on this issue of divisiveness. when i watch some of the governor debates on c-span i was happy to see how civil they were even though they have extreme differences. i wanted to ask the question with inflation going up what thoughts they had about raising taxes in the couple of years because their cost of goods went up also. host: but inflation has gone down. caller: there still have to deal with eight, 10% with increase costs. host: mike is in ohio. good morning might.

caller: i fell for that guy in new hampshire. things are so much better under biden. not. let's talk about christopher wray. i watch that oversight hearing. he was twisting in the wind. let's talk about this cocaine in the white house. the secret service turned over the investigation over the fbi. they did the actual fingerprinting and dna. who has been covering for joe biden since he came into the white house? christopher wray. it seems the problem is that nobody ever gets fired for anything which is why they do the corrupt things they do.

as far as all the money for student loans, the court already said is illegal. so what is biden trying to do? subvert the law. and oh yeah, things are so much better under biden. host: take a look of this article from the wall street journal. it's called t when this, the joe biden probe unsealed an indictment having him acting as an illegal invasion of china. they say the u.s. israeli citizen who was a key witness in their investigation of the biden family is under federal indictment for allegations with

his relationship with china. republican congressional members investigating joe biden have said they knew of a key witness in their probe who could testify credibly about corruption involving the president and his son but he had gone missing. the circumstances around his circumstances became clear when the justice department unsealed an indictment saying he helped broker illicit oil and arm steel. speaker mccarthy was asked about the indictment of the biden informant yesterday. [video clip] >> there was an indictment by the justice department for a trafficking issue.

does it hurt his underlying case? >> the justice department went after him. it only makes the case stronger that the governor didn't -- government didn't go after hunter biden and had a whistleblower at the irs. why has it taken six years for the investigation on hunter biden so he wouldn't take all of that illegal money? it also raises the point there is unequal justice in america. why is one america treated one way in the biden family another?

it compels you to look deeper. host: that was speaker mccarthy yesterday. we have just about five minutes left in the program. good morning richard. caller: yesterday morning joe mika brzezinski one of the most intelligent minds in broadcasting since walter cronkite was brought to tears when she was explaining that the secret service needs to do more to keep joe biden from falling down and making sure he knows where the door is so he can get out. i agree with her. at least give him a walker or do something to make sure he doesn't make a fool of himself. now to joe biden overseas in europe. he said tommy tuberville was

stopping this country from being protected. nobody in the military goes anywhere until they are replaced. mike millie is still the joint chief of staff. all the generals and colonels are not ready until they are replaced. this going on, the only reason on we are not militarily ready because biden has taking our ammunition. we are sending 3000 troops to europe in our navy is rusting. there is a lot going on there. i want to know who put the cocaine in the white house. thank you so much. host: christopher on the line in valley forge, pennsylvania. caller: i just wanted to comment on the guy complaining about the

ice ages. we have always had i want to ask that guy. in those times where we had those warming periods, where their 8 million people on the planet? were there 5 billion cars on the planet? were the coal furnaces burning 20 47. where their nuclear reactors, contracts pouring out heat and pollution. i can't believe how stupid they can be. they don't think for two seconds. they don't have a single thought of their own. it's an embarrassment. host: earl and aurora, indiana. caller: this guide talking about stupid republicans.

god controls the world, he made the world. we have a time to live in a time to die. we don't even have a guarantee at all. god controls everything. you people wake up. he is already showing you what he can do. look at these floods, fires, earthquakes, hurricanes. man cannot control it. it is stupid and to think you could do it. we need to stop right now and vote in a different president because biden cannot handle this country. host: gwen and birmingham, alabama. caller: i am calling because i am so sick and tired of people with ageism. biden is too old to do this.

i am a senior citizen and i can outrun anyone 30 years old. host: i am sorry to cut you off at the house is about to gavel in said that's enough for today's washington journal. we will be back tomorrow morning. here's the house. inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the speaker: the house will be in order.