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opportunity for you to hear from our republican presidential candidates, especially as we lean into the first of the nation caucus. i have my oldest granddaughter with me. can you stand up? [applause] give it up. [applause] i am so pleased to have with me former south carolina governor, ambassador to the u.n., nikki haley. it is great to have you back. >> great to see you. >> i will give you a few minutes to say hello. >> it is great to be at the fair. i am from rural south carolina. whenever i come to iowa, it does feel like home. i grew up playing on farms, people took care of each other, neighbors took care of neighbors. iowa feels friendly, it is nice, it is respectful.

i was always really proud of the south carolina state fair. i really was. you guys really bring it. this is unbelievable, it really is, it says a lot about iowa. you guys are showing off and now i realize while you are showing off, it is great. >> we have a lot of fun at the fair. i would not miss a minute of it, that is a bit of my first question, you grew up in a small town, can you talk a bit about how that has formed you as a governor -- informed you as a governor and how it would shape you as a president. >> it was a small town, 2500 people, two stop lights, you cannot think about doing something wrong without them telling your mom. i wish everybody could grow up that way. you really do see people for people. you really do understand. what got me into politics, i was never that kid that was in

college republicans, i was an accountant, i'm not a lawyer. after i left the corporate world, i came back home to our family business, one day i was telling my mom how hard it was to make a dollar and how easy it was for the government to take it. my mom said, quit complaining about it and do something about it. i did not know you were supposed to run against an incumbent in the primary, once i realized he was related staff the district, the only option was to win. we got way too many lawyers at the statehouse i think they need a good accountant and that is how it goes. >> you really need a good accountant. bring it. >> i think that growing up like that, and seeing people who work hard, in south carolina, it was always about faith, family and country. i know i once, we grew up like that -- iowans, we grew up like that.

your parents raised you to be responsible individuals, you went to church and he found your faith and your conscience, that is what i want america to be again. that is what i want us to get back to, that is at the heart of who we are. >> so, the first female governor of south carolina, and really you jumped right in. you really lead a dramatic economic turnaround in the state. you earned the title as the beast from the southeast. the best thing is that republican governors were competitive, she was setting the bar high. talk about your leadership in revitalizing south carolina's economy and to the background as an accountant. talk about what you did and how you would take that same mindset to washington dc. >> we are $2 trillion in debt. we're having to borrow money just to make our interest payment. china owns some of that debt. and i would love to tell you

that biden did that to us, but i have always spoken in hard truths, i republicans did that to us too. you look at that two point $2 trillion covid stimulus bill they passed with no accountability, expanding welfare that is now leaving us with 90 million americans on medicaid, 42 americans on food stamps, did republicans try to make that right? they opened up earmarks for the first time in 10 years, wishing through 7000 of them in december. 30 million dollars on an honors college in vermont, $10 million to tear down a hotel in alaska, $7 million on horseracing in arizona. the 22 for budget just came out, republicans asked for $7.4 billion worth of earmarks for projects. democrats ask for $2.8 million. now you tell me who the big spenders are.

so, the accountant in me, will tell you that what i did as governor, the first thing i did was control what i could control, our agencies. i replaced the head of every agency. i went in there -- [applause] i sent teams into every agency to clean house, pulled down regulations, any bureaucracy, getting rid of problem children. then we started telling agency if you are costing business their time you're costing them money. that is what we need to do in d.c.. the other side of that, to make sure -- i am a huge proponent of term limits. we have to have term limits in d.c.. [applause] i'm a huge proponent of mental competency tests for anyone over the age of 75. [cheering] let me tell you, senator grassley would pass that in a heartbeat. gov. reynolds: that man is not

slowing down one inch. i was trying to keep up with him all day. >> these are easy tests it is like name four words that start with the same letter. what town were you born in? , how many grandchildren do you have? [laughter] [applause] aside from all of that, the other thing you want to do is, when you go in there, make sure that you remember that government works for the people, not the other way around. you start doing that aspect of it, and then you get to work. i will tell you that the first thing i will do is we will stop the spending, we will stop the borrowing, we will eliminate the earmarks and i will veto any spending bill that does not take us to pre-covid levels. gov. reynolds: sounds like how we address biden -- whatever it is -- the bad stuff. you do bring a lot of diversity to this role because you have the opportunity to serve two

years as the ambassador to the u.n., standing up against foreign adversaries like china and iran. i remember watching you with great pride during that time. when our country is struggling economically, why is it so important that we not overlook foreign policy as well, can you talk about that? >> it is national security. if you look at the situation around the world, there's a lot of threats coming to america, you have russia invading ukraine, iran building a bomb, north korea testing ballistic missiles, china on the march, make no mistake. none of that would've happened if we did not have that debacle in afghanistan. my husband served in afghanistan, the idea that he and his military brother and sisters had to leave the air force in the middle of the night without telling our allies who

stood shoulder to soldier with the -- shoulder for decades because we asked them to be there, think about what that told our enemies and friends? i was -- it is the first caucus. but it is more important than that. because right now, china has got its eyes set on iowa, why? china is our number one national security threat. they have been planning war with us for years, that is not being dramatic, look at the inference ration -- infiltration china has done, they bought up 400,000 acres of soil near grand forks airport base -- airport base. there are the largest producer in the country. if you want to know what they want, they are going after every farmer. i -- iowans are great about agriculture and technology. they are stealing seeds from

iowa. china is food insecure. they are trying to figure out how to take what we have so they don't need us. that is leverage. we need to make sure food security is national security. that is about us. that is also about the rest of the world. [applause] then you go and look that they are -- we have more fentanyl that crossed the border that would kill every single american, number one cause of death fentanyl. don't think for a second that china does not know what they are doing when they send it over then you look at the fact that they are filling our universities with the millions of dollars to steal our research and spread chinese propaganda. the chinese party has chinese front companies lobbying our congress on their behalf. and then you go and look, they steal $600 billion worth of intellectual property every year. now, let's talk about military.

china now has the largest naval fleet in the world. they have 350 ships, they will have 400 in two years. we will not have 350 in two decades. they have come out with hypersonic missiles. they are doing cyber, artificial intelligence, space. they're now the biggest developer of neuro-strike weapons, where they can engineer to change brain activity of military leaders or groups of the population. it's serious stuff. now, we hear there is malware out there. the chinese have put a code in our systems, that our government cannot find, and basically, what it has done is it's in our network systems. our power grid, our communication system, and our water supply. so, that is a lot of bad, right? how do we deal with it? i sat across from china. i negotiated with china. i negotiated with russia. no one else on this stage has done that the way that i did it.

you go to china with strength. the first thing is we make sure they know longer by u.s. soil. we take back what they have already purchased. [applause] we go to our universities and we say you either take chinese money or american money. the days of taking both are over. we get the chinese infiltration out of our university. [applause] we go to china, we say, we will end all normal trade relations with you, until you stop killing americans. you watch how fast they get that fentanyl off the border. then you go and make sure, we should not be sending them any technology that builds up their military or help them threaten us. the biden administration approved 70% of those were west last year -- requests last year. we will make sure we blacklist that. wehen it comes -- when it comes to our military, we have an amazing military. we need to start using it. the first way to start using it, you start -- stop making them do

gender pronoun classes. that has to stop. we pulled down the bureaucracy and the department of defense, the red tape, we start making sure we modernize our equipment and ammunitions so we are ready. when it comes to the border, we'll go and finally deal with the border. first of all. we'll make sure we defund sanctuary cities once and for all. [applause] instead of 87,000 irs agents, we will but 25,000 border patrol, and let them do their job. [applause] we'll go back to the remain in mexico policy. nobody wants to remain in mexico, then instead of catch and release, we will go to catch and deport. that is how you go and make sure we stop the border. never forget, in the u.s., we are a country of laws. the second you stop being a country of laws, you give up everything this country was founded on. [applause]

the answer to the weakness on the stage we see from our current president, oh my gosh. gov. reynolds: you brought up michael. he deployed, with the national guard, you have been. through this before as governor. tell me -- governor, tell me what it is like having him overseas now. especially as you are running for president. ms. criswell: the timing is a little --fmr. gov. haley: the timing is a little off. several weeks ago, i dropped off michael at 4 a.m. and watched him and to 30 soldiers pickup their two duffel bags of belongings and load a bus and go to a country they have never been. all in the name of defending and protecting america. they are willing to sacrifice their life and families, because they still believe in this amazing experiment that is america. so, if they're are willing to fight for us there, shouldn't we

be willing to fight for our country, here? we have a country to save. [applause] look, i am incredibly proud of him. i'm incredibly proud of all of our military men and women. i'm incredibly proud of the veterans on the shoulders we stand on, because he sacrificed for us, but i also am very aware that if you look at the situation, my parents raised us, that you always take care of those who take care of you. i'm going to ask you for taking care of those who are taking care of us. 33,000 of our heroes in this country are homeless. one in three veterans suffers from ptsd or thoughts of suicide. we lose 22 heroes a day to suicide. the average amount of time for a veteran to go get a doctors appointment at the v.a., 29 days. why 29? on the 30th day, they get to go to the doctor or hospital of

their choice. midway through the 29 days, they get a call to reschedule, so the clock starts all over again. that is a shameful. i will tell you, we have to remember, you don't just love your military when they are gone. we have to love them when they come back home too. [applause] when my husband came back from afghanistan, he could not hear loud noises. he cannot be in groups. life had passed him by for that year that he was in afghanistan and the transition was tough. the cameras love to take pictures of one we see our loved ones and we hug them and it is a blessing that we are thrilled to have them back but the hard parts are when we get home. the way i will do it as president, we are going to show love to our military men and women and our veterans for the rest of their life. [applause]

we are going to make sure that we open telehealth so they can get the mental health treatment the second they need it, we're going to let him go to the doctors and hospitals of their choice. we are going to make sure they can use their g.i. benefits for things other than education you know what else we're going to do? every member of congress should get their health care from the v.a. and you watch how fast we fix that. [cheering] the difference now, versus when michael deployed to afghanistan, is my kids are older. thank goodness. one of them was crying every night when he was the point. the, i will give you a story, he left me as a single mom governor when he deployed. yes, we are still married. that says a lot. one day we were sitting there, i was trying to get my two little ones out the door. my son had a presentation he had to make.

he was a little thing. he had to wear a tie. i did not know how to tie a tie. was a clip-on time. anyway, we are walking out the door and he says, mom i can't get the tie, i go to the detail agent and say, can you get the tie? we get the tie, i kiss his cheeks, sent him on his way. i'm in my robe at the time. i turn around to open the door to the governor's residence. it's a lot. i'm sitting out in the road, outside the governor's residence. i'm looking at the surveillance cameras going, let me in. i don't know when a tv truck is going to drive my. all of the sudden, it felt like five minutes went by. my daughter opens the door goes, mom, what are you doing outside in your robe? i said, i got locked out. she said i am late. i helped her get dressed. i happen to tweak, what not to do -- tweet, want not to do,

get locked out of the house with your robe on. the detail says, ma'am, i'm sorry your morning started off rough, he said, did you see my tweet, he said no, i heard it on the radio. i look on the phone and my staff is blowing my phone up, saying did you get locked out in your robe? all these people are like have you ever been locked out of your house in a robe, the governor of south carolina is. i get this email from my husband michael, all it says is really nikki? [laughter] i feel for every military family out there. it's survival mode. we are blessed to do it because we love our men and women. what is it about getting in and out of the residences? kevin is the only one that can get in. i cannot figure out that door. gov. reynolds: i thought you were going to see you gave him a

kiss and he went to school -- but if he were still in your robe you did not have your lipstick on. thank you for your service, we appreciate it. you've also said that saving girls a sports is a women's issue of our time. we passed legislation to protect girls sports for girls. let me tell you, i will continue to say, best governor in the country, hands-down. [applause] look, i am of the firm belief, i see a lot of our girls out here, i see a lot of our parents out here, we have to raise a strong girls. strong girls become strong women, strong women become strong leaders. you don't do that by putting biological boys and girls -- boys in girls sports. i played tennis in high school, my daughter ran track.

fmr. gov. haley: did you really? you're going to make it to state. gov. reynolds: my daughter ran track in high school. i don't even know how i would have that conversation with her. how do we get used to our girls having biological boys in their locker rooms? you can't. you can't. we have to make sure we are focused -- did you see johns hopkins recently came out with the definition of a woman? it was a non-man. you can't erase all of the progress women have made in this country. i will not let us erase all of the progress women have made in the country. gov. reynolds: insanity. fmr. gov. haley: we should be focused on lifting up our girls in a way that they become true fighters, true leaders, true

americans, true patriots. we need to focus on the fact that why was it last year a third of our teenage girls contemplated suicide? this is serious. we need to look at that. let's snap out of it. boys going into girls bathrooms, girls into girls bathrooms -- boys going into boys bathrooms, girls into girls bathrooms. gov. reynolds: way too much common sense. i am going to give you the final question. give me one funny moment on the campaign trail. fmr. gov. haley: i don't know if it was funny at the time. now we can laugh. i'm one of the only candidates flying commercial. the rest are flying private. there was one day we were trying to make it to this gate. of course, thank you mayor pete, no flight is on time. there's lots of delays and cancellations. i happen to just come off a speaking engagement. i was in a dress. we have to haul. i take my heels off, i am

running through the airport. i hear somebody go, hey, that is nikki haley, running across the airport. if you're in an airport, watch out for me running with the heels in my hand. the hardest part about running for president is not doing this, it is the logistics. it's the airports, the flights, it is trying to get back and forth. i can't wait to fire mayor pete. [laughter] it's personal now. gov. reynolds: favorite fair food you have had or are looking forward to having. fmr. gov. haley: in south carolina we love chicken and waffles. i saw that y'all have chicken in a waffle on a stick. i have to try that one. gov. reynolds: anything on a stick is fair game. we love it. favorite walkout song? fmr. gov. haley: i love rock ''' roll by joan. gov. reynolds: final question. as i travel the state, iowans tell me, they are really looking

for a leader that will stand up for the american people, that will stand up for their country and freedom. they want someone that has the moral conviction to do the right thing, even when it is really hard, that has the vision and resolve, on day one to get it done. then they always end with this. we want somebody that can win. tell us why you think that you are that person to win. fmr. gov. haley: it is interesting. republicans have lost the last seven out of eight popular votes for president. that's nothing to be proud of. we should want to win the majority for americans. we have the solutions. we know how to lift everyone. we have to communicate it the right way. this is not rocket science. this is common sense. it's time that the government's thoughts -- starts working for the people. in order to do this, we have to face certain truths. it is time for a new

generational leader. it is time that we lead the negativity -- leave the negativity and drama behind and focus on real solutions. we need new answers on this. we don't have time to play anymore. china, russia and iran are winning. the american people are losing. what i will tell you, in order to do that, it will take courage, from everybody here. courage from me to run. courage for everyone of you to know don't complain about what happens in a general election if you don't play in this caucus. it matters. gov. reys: we want to set a record. you are going to help me do it. fmr. gov. haley: i will tell you this, somebody asked me why i was running. my parents came here 50 years ago to an america that was strong, proud, and full of opportunities. i want them to know that america again. i'm doing this for my husband michael, and his military brothers and sisters. they need to know their

sacrifice matters, that we do love our country. i am doing this for my daughter who just got married. i saw how hard it was for her and her husband to buy a home. i'm doing this for my son, will be a year in college. i'm tired of him having to worry about writing papers he doesn't believe in just to get an a. that is not us, that is not america. 70% of americans think their kids will not live as good of a life as we did. we can't be ok with that. i'm not ok with that. we have a country to save. if you don't join me and go to nikkihaley.com, i promise you, our best days are to come. gov. reynolds: give it up for nikki haley. fmr. gov. haley: god bless you. ♪

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