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ramaswamy at 7%. scott at 3%. chris christie at 2%. hutchinson at 1%. the public knows who i am and what a successful presidency i had with energy independence and military. no inflation. strong as the economy in history and much more. finishing off by saying this i will therefore not be doing the debates. that's from the truth social sites that he made that announcement yesterday. citing the cbs poll that came out yesterday that did show mr. trump of the considerable lead over the republican who want to be in the white house of 2024 but also showed a little bit of information about the debate itself this week when it comes to the debate mr. trump's opponent should focus more on -- 91% saying they should make the case for themselves and 9% only

saying it makes the case against former president trump. again that some of the polls there. we will show you others. in this first topic when it comes to republicans only and that fox debate the rnc debate should president trump change his mind and attend. saying he should be in attendance and debate his challengers, 202-748-8000 is the number to call and tell us why. if you say no, 202-748-8001. you can also text us if you wish at 202-748-8003. facebook and twitter available. several posting on facebook this morning leading up to the start of the show saying he's the front runner, why would he. in my opinion this is the vice presidential debate, nothing more. realizing he has no future in the 2024 race. and all of his support.

behind the obvious presumptive nominee. vicki from facebook saying it's not necessary. that interview he's expected to release with tucker carlsen will be far more worth the popcorn. loomis from facebook as well saying he's already proved himself and then, just adding the word absolutely to the mix. you can post on our facebook page if you wish. the site known now as x, the handle is still the same. you can post or text us. speaking of polls, of the des moines register this morning out with a poll of likely republican caucus-goers. this is in the lead up to the iowa caucus.

you can find it online saying the polls, to support a president who grapples with the fallout and the pack of other top contenders pairing to gather for the high-stakes presidential debate in milwaukee on wednesday. 42% say they plan to support president trump. who is 19%. u.s. senator tim scott from south carolina follows in third place with 9%. the debate expected later this week should the president will former president trump be part of that activity. call us and let us know why you think so or maybe don't think so. stan in oregon does not think so. good morning. tell us why. caller: i believe he doesn't want to come in the other reason why is i think biden should go to the debates.

they all come against him. everybody has things they've done wrong. not judging, but the wildfires and this weather thing it's got to be done on the ground. i hope president trump does something different because 1972. host: why shouldn't the former president debate those who want to challenge him. caller: those other people that don't have a chance, everybody listen to what they have to say and their views. everybody's got views. and they're so much hate on this earth it's tearing me up. my sister had to evacuate from a fire today and the president doesn't have -- host: president biden heading to

hawaii to survey the damage in maui. that will take place later on today as he travels there. continue to call in on the debate. one of the people commenting on the president not showing up to the debate was the chair of the rnc who talked about the debate itself. here's a portion of that interview. >> i think this is the beginning of the general election. i thing a lot of families have been out in the summer. getting the kids back to school and now dialing in the fact we will be electing a new president within a year and this will be the debate stage where we will be able to tout what republicans can do versus the failure of joe biden. people are hurting. the average family pays 10,000 more under joe biden. this bidenomics is costing families. with crimes surging they are

looking for a solution and this is can give them that first glimpse of hope for 2024. >> let's look at the lineup there. i think president trump will not be there on the debate night. what are your thoughts on that and who does make the debate stage. >> i'm holding out hope president trump will come. i thing it's important the american all the candidates. but there's a lot of candidates who have qualified. we are at seven who officially qualified with the small dollar donations and the polling threshold and the pledge. we have others on the cost. we will be looking at polls next few days. three or four waiting for 1% in another national poll to make the debate stage. host: amongst those who are going to be on that stage when it comes to the requirements there were two fundraising requirements saying at least 40,000 unique donors from the campaign committee. at least 200 unique donors.

the candidates must argue more and 2% in national polls. different early voting stage. either iowa, new hampshire or south carolina. the rnc said it would recognize after july 1. mr. trump on the list of those who qualified saying he will not participate though. the others to expect. ron desantis, senator tim scott. chris christie. mike pence, nikki haley. doug burgum. and asa hutchinson who just came in and qualification. as we expect, mr. trump part of that list. should he be part of that list.

saying yes he showed or no he should not. judy, hello. caller: i will tell you what i think. i would like to know we don't know who the moderators are. we don't know what the format is. what the rules are frankly. given the past history. the wild thing to get on. i don't think that should be right. i would like to see a well-run debate and no what each one's policies are. i don't want to know about what they've done.

the plans are for the united states of america. host: do you think mr. trump benefits for comparing and contrasting his policies. caller: i don't know the benefit. he hasn't said anything about his policies. he's talked about institutions we've always believed in. and should believe in. we are americans. i want to know what his plans are and what his policies will be. what is he going to do. host: texting us this morning about the debate and if mr. trump should be part of that saying if former president trump is a candidate, why not. let's see what he's got. when it comes to the previous caller about the moderators for the debate on the 23rd this

week, it will be bret baier and martha mikal as moderators of that first republican debate. a debate mr. trump says he will not be part of. if you think you think he should change his mind. on our no line, nancy from north carolina. caller: good morning. i don't think he should be on there. it would just be more of a three ring circus which is what it's been forever and never since he's been on the political scene. why should he be? the news media has given him the next presidency on a silver platter. why does he need to be on therefore. the news media covers him right and left everywhere he is in everything he does. i feel sorry for all these candidates. who don't get equal time on tv

for expressing their policies. i hate to say it, but c-span and pbs, i am including when i say the news media. as much as i hate to say that c-span is cowering down to trump , that's the way it has to be. host: back to your point about the other candidates. you think they benefit without the presence of mr. trump. >> i certainly do. they could have a decent honest discussion of their views and their plans for the future without him on the stage. all it is when he's on the stage it becomes a three ring circus and everything that's done on tv with the news media is praised and the decision, what do you

think trump will do. every candidate, they don't come on and give them time to talk about what their policies are for the future. what their hopes are for the future. all they do is phrase it in terms of how do you think everyone else will do in relation to trump. >> the editors of the wall street journal talk about the debate and mr. trump's decision not to do attend the debate. they write saying republican voters like that mr. trump is a fighter but for whom is he fighting. them or himself. he would collect more baggage than the british royals if they expect to nominate him without so much as a primary debate. much less a real nominating contest. they're so five months before the iowa caucuses and the new hampshire primary and perhaps mr. trump's presumption is mistaken. political parties have made

repeated nominations in the past and suffered repeated losses for it. democrats of done it three times with william jennings bryan. republicans are tempting the same fate. the wall street journal you can find that editorial. should president trump -- former president trump part of the debate. joe says no in louisville, kentucky. go ahead. >> just wanted to say trump has nothing new to say, nothing intelligent to say and is taking up time from other people who could benefit from being on stage. host: such as who? >> this guide does not deserve to be up there on the stage. host: amongst the other candidates who are you watching? caller: pretty much chris christie right now.

host: why him over the others? caller: he's the only one that really had the gusts to say what needs to be said. the rest kowtow. just speak the truth like he's doing. that's all i ask. >> from nick in point arena california. good morning, go ahead. caller: personally i think president trump should go to the debate and the reason why think he should is because i feel it there's a lot of hype surrounding trump, i feel like in the past he has threatened to skip the debates. i think you should do it this year because it's important for them to bounce back, last year he wasn't able to win the presidency and i think there are a lot of people who are coming

up for example, i don't know if he has a chance at it this year but i think he will make a mark this year and i think ron desantis has some pretty big -- i think they have -- i think pence is a smart person and has a pretty good shot of making it. host: do you think the other candidates will benefit by not having mr. trump there to talk about their own policies. or can they compare and contrast compared to the former president. >> i think desantis and pentz would have a better shot at being able to compare and contrast. i think it would probably put pressure on nikki haley. they are younger and have more experience in debates and stuff like that. having trump there is a really big presence to bring to a debate so i think that's really important, i think it would be

important to make a big impact. >> you can tell us yes the president should be there or he should not. republicans only. wherever you are as far former president trump attending this debate he said on social -- true social he would not. you can say no at 202-748-8001 or yes at 202-748-8000. they talk about the debate and mr. trump's rival under the headline gop worries about electability, shane writing as it will take the stage for that first debate on wednesday the perceived weaknesses of mr. biden have undercut one of the core arguments that mr. desantis of other -- the party needs to turn the page on the path and move beyond mr. trump to win in 2024. the basic notion of which

candidate has the best shot of winning the general election. the most intense in the aftermath of the disappointing midterms. republican struck by losses of trump back candidates in places like michigan and pennsylvania and it offers a way for to sway the republican electorate still very much in the throes of mr. trump to consider filling in the slot with a fresh face in 2024 with the permission slip to move on. right there the new york times this morning. jason is up next. in north carolina, go ahead. caller: he should not show up. for what. to help fox news's ratings. it's not going to matter if he shows up or not. going to spew hatred towards him for the next year and a half anyway. >> is a just a matter of ratings

he shouldn't show up. >> why should he give you talking points for your hate. host: there are no talking points or hate. were asking a question about the debate. caller: i'm telling you what i think. but you don't want to hear what i have to say you just want to cut me off and shut me down. can i tell you what i think now? host: you repeated twice already but go ahead. caller: you are nothing but once of white supremacists. host: i'm going to stop there. you are on. caller: he should debate. i think he will do a lot better the oil and gas industry all the cleanup and department of justice and the fbi.

and can protect america and boycott china everything should be american and american only. are you there? host:host: how does he achieve all that by the nature of showing up to the debate. caller: the people have to realize that all of these other news stations, they don't tell the truth on what's going on in washington. they need to clean house. on a scale of one to 10 they are both about even with the public in a democrats. you'll tell when a politician is lying. the tell you anything to get something done.

the best person for the job. caller: -- host: finish up your point. anything else you want to add. >> i hope he does get reelected and clean house because he's the only person for the job. host: jim there on our yes line. inning you think he should show up to the debate this weekend. sponsored by the rnc. if you say no, call us at 202-748-8001. if you want to chime in on the yes line, 202-748-8000. even though the debate will take place reportedly without mr. trump or he will still have supporters there. before he made the debate they report at least three of his staunchest republican allies in congress plan to be in milwaukee, wisconsin. including georgia represented marjorie taylor greene of georgia as well as matt gaetz

and byron donalds. kari lake who lost in arizona is also planning to travel to milwaukee. he is one of eight presence of candidates to meet the rnc fundraising requirements to qualify for the debate. that shows some of the supporters being able to talk to the media and talk up mr. trump as well in his absence. oklahoma is next on our no line. this is bill. caller: i don't think that trump should debate because he's full of lies, he will get the young people on, they are all on the pots now because it is legal. we need more biden. host: you are not a republican i gather? caller: no. host: you are calling in on our public and only kind of call in so make sure you follow the rules.

republicans only. if you called in the last 30 days, please hold off. you can call us on the line. the yes or no line and you can also post on social media and text us. charlie in missouri, hello. you are on, go ahead. caller: so chris christie can give us and him. host: what do you mean by that. caller: what he deserves. it's obvious what he's all about. i hope see shows up so chris christie can point out everything that needs to be point out. the rest of them are not going to do it. thank you. host: that's charlie in missouri. as part of a pole we showed you earlier when it comes to the debate they also have those

likely primary voters about the debate themselves. participating saying it's important during the debate from those candidates 86% of those said the candidates should talk about their plans for lowering inflation. 3% of those said they should talk about how they plan to reduce violent crime and then 81% saying when it comes to debate topics and what should be discussed stopping illegal immigration on that list at 81%. cbs releasing that pole. cbs news.com. this is sandra and pennsylvania. caller: good morning. i want to say trump has debated every day 24/7 47 on the news media. now it's the new candidates

host: alvin brown makes his comment, saying why should they risk it? while other, craig saying, all politicians need to earn our vote every day. he appears to be taking this and ducking debate, hiding from the tough questions. rich castles saying, even if he

is a no-show can at this point in time, he will still be the topic. we will see that play out on wednesday. again, if you want to call us -- samuel in texas. good morning. caller: good morning, sir. i said, good morning. the reason president trump should not show up is that america knows what he stands for, america first. anybody who says they already knows what he stands for has

ears but does not know how to listen. they see what is going on in our country, but they seem to have no eyes. they have eyes and do not see. that is sad. for the other candidate, they are all good people. they are republicans, except for chris christie. now, president trump, yesterday, today and forever. god bless america. host: without trump ain't part of that debate, will you still watch? as far as saying that he will still be a presence even if he

does not show up, do you think that will be the case? caller: i do not know what the president is going to do, sir. host: from michigan on our yes line. caller: i am so sick of what people are doing to this man who have done -- who has done so much more for us than what biden is doing now. i do not know how many or what the commission is. i feel so sorry for him. if he appeared, he could remind people of some of the things. mark: we are delighted to be partnered with the foundation