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-- dr. martin luther king outlined at the lincoln memorial in 1963. watch the 60th anniversary of the march on washington live saturday beginning at 11:00 a.m. eastern or online at c-span.org. day morning to you. you can start calling in now. here is the usa today wrap up. that was usa today.

here are some other headlines about last night's debate. that's some of the wrap up of last night's debate. this was one of those moments last night in which the former president came up as a question from the moderator. this was about an hour into the debate. chris christie launched into the former president and here is some of his comments. [video clip] >> whether or not you believe the criminal charges are right or wrong, the conduct is beneath the office of president of the

united states. [applause] >> and, you know, this is the great thing about this country -- free speech is allowed but it does not change the truth. host: chris christie last night at that presidential debate hosted by fox news. it was in milwaukee, wisconsin. the eight candidates were there on the debate stage in the former president sat down with tucker carlton, the former fox news host on x. it was a recorded, extended interview about 45 minutes. [video clip] >> why aren't you at the fox news debate in milwaukee? >> many people have asked me and many people said you shouldn't do them and you see the polls and i'm leading by 50 or 60 points and some of them are at 1 and zero and 2 and i wonder

should i sit there for an hour or two and get harassed by people who shouldn't even be running for president? should i be doing that? and a network that is not particular frankly to me. they were backing ron desantis like crazy in that they've given up on him, he's a lost cause. it reminded me very much of 2016 when i went through the same stuff. i had to fight them all away and they became friendly after right one. i just -- after i won. i thought it would be appropriate not to do this of debate. if you are leading by 50 or 60 and 1.70 points, why am i doing it? i will have eight or 10 people however many it is but these people will be screaming at me. all of which i love answering but it doesn't make sense to do. i took a pass. host: the former president

donald trump onx with tucker carlton. that interview was downloaded some 100 million times in the first four hours after it was released. the former president talked about the phone numbers. here is the latest polling. this paul had donald trump up by 40 points as the presidential pick of republicans, 52 said that ron desantis had 27 and ramaswamy coming in of part third. nikki haley was on last night at 3% in tim scott, the senator from south carolina at 4% and that yahoo! news pole. we can go through more of that but we mostly want to hear from you this morning and get your reaction to that debate last night and what will happen today in fulton, georgia.

the former president is expected to show up sometime around 6 p.m. eastern tonight. there is a picture of the fulton county were some of the defendants have already been charged in this case have come and be processed and fingerprinted and had their mugshots taken. that's expected to happen around 6 p.m. tonight for the former president, donald trump. you can watch that on c-span later today. (202) 748-8003 republicans, democrats, -- republicans (202) 748-8001, (202) 748-8000 democrats and independents. (202) 748-8002. did you watch last night's debate? caller: i did it and issa nikki haley was a shining star of last night i just want to say that as far as donald trump being charged today, i think it is poetic justice that excluding

people from his property, there is a story of him evicting an older black woman from her apartment. he thought black people were powerless in this society and i think it's poetic justice that a black woman is the one who is charging him and bringing him to justice yet again for the fourth time. also, a black da from manhattan was the first person to indict u.s. president. i think today, it's poetic justice and i look forward to him having to come in like any other person to face the law. i hope that black prosecutors

and lawyers will use this ricoh to go after systems that fund the prison industrial complex and lock up black and brown bodies. prosecutors, attorneys and investigators who suppress evidence to railroad black people to go to jail. i hope they employ that rico statute to go after them and criminally make all of these state officials criminally liable toward misconduct. host: this is stan in florida, good morning. caller: how are you doing? i want to remind people that fox news had to pay $270 million about lying about the voting machines. they don't even -- they didn't even show the january 6 appearance. everything goes off. you talk about hunter biden or donald trump or joe biden, those officers were beaten with sticks

and over the head with bricks. donald junior said he is coming for you. host: did you watch last caller: caller: night's debate? i watched a little bit. they are nonunion and want to take it with public schools. i've got five relatives in the public schools. they want all charges but my kids are in public schools and they want charter schools. that's all they want, they want to take away union rights and i am a joe biden supporter. you watch what will happen when they go back. host: stacy in waldorf, maryland, line for republicans, good morning. caller: i watched the debate last night and it was a complete sham. host: watch your language but i

want to hear what you have to say. caller: sorry, it was complete chaos. everybody was talking over everybody and when they chimed in on trump, it was like a feeding frenzy. everybody except for one or two wanted to slam trump and i don't think trump should have been brought up. the bottom line is he's facing what is facing and let's let the court deal with it. for us to be focused on what will happen to him, we are not hearing what these other candidates want to bring to the table. host: one of the previous callers said nikki haley was the shining star last night. how do you think she did? caller: i think she did really good, i honestly did and there's nothing wrong with having a strong woman up there. i think it's time for that. i'm not a fan of chris christie. i don't see anybody as a strong

candidate for me. she did really good last night. host: did they spend too much time on trump last night? it was about an hour until the donald trump question came up and when ron desantis said he wanted to look forward, one of the moderators said we should talk about trump, he's leading in the polls right now. caller: i mean -- i do agree we need to look forward. i voted for trump and i'm a huge trump fan. i don't agree with what's happening to him. i think the timing of it all. is the suspect people are saying he was the cause and he incited the violence. it's crazy to have a media always twist the words he spoke. he said we will peacefully go down there.

charlottesville, he said there were people on both sides that were good and he said it. i'm not referring to the white supremacy but the media ran with that. it's it like a smear campaign. i really do. host: the former president in that interview with tucker carlsen onx had plenty of comments for the media. here is more of what he had to say last night. [video clip] >> msnbc or as they say msbnc, it's so wrong what they write and what they do and what they say. it's corrupt news. somehow that doesn't play as nicely that is corrupt news. you have msnbc you have cnn who's absolutely doing no ratings at all. they are doing then because they

don't have credibility. fox's way down as you know. the good old days are long ago. i will say this -- it could come back but they just don't have a lot of credibility, you know that perhaps better than anybody. i think it was a terrible move getting rid of you, number one on television and all of a sudden, you are doing this interview using this crazy forum. the debate is probably our competition. host: some 100 million views of that interview. it was about a 45 minute interview. speaking of posts, we are looking for your social media post this morning to get your reaction on last night's debate and your thoughts on what will happen today in fulton county, georgia when the former president is expected to go down and be fingerprinted and have his mug shot taken and processed in fulton county, georgia to

answer the latest indictment. it's the fourth indictment and 14 criminal charges facing the former president in that indictment. 91 criminal charges if you combine them among the four indictments. social media posts from our viewers talk about last night's debate -- and this is surely in pennsylvania,

democrat, good morning. caller: yes, good morning and thank you for taking my call. this is my first time calling. i watched a little bit of the debate last night. i couldn't hardly watch it so i just turned it off. it was awful. my question is these polls. i don't understand that you are saying or even donald trump is saying he is at 70% in the polls. p nobody everolled me and i asked my friend if they ever got a call. they said no. where is all this polling coming from? i am a staunch democrat.

i always will be i think joe biden is doing a marvelous job. he's doing the best he can for this country. the people in the united states of america have to start getting together and getting along with one another. i've been through many presidential elections and the problem with our country anymore is donald trump. he is the one dividing people in this country and we have to get back to where we were long ago. i am 91 years old and i went through many presidential elections. this is absolutely ridiculous the way the republicans are acting. host: the polls important leading up to this debate because one of the criteria to make the debate stage involves the polls. this is the usa today column that lays it out for us --

we will keep watching the polls but we won't be able to watch the candidates on stage if they don't register in the polls. this is pittsburgh, independent, good morning. caller: good morning, i agree

with the 91-year-old. i am registered as an independent but now, i am really disappointed in the republican party. in fact, the debate, i wouldn't even watch it because they showed me who they are when they talked about santos for senate and this man lied about everything. to watch their debate, i wouldn't believe the thing they would say. if you watch their pattern when they do things like when they put judges in, they turned around they claimed obama shouldn't put a judge in at the last minute but they threw one in one month before. they have a habit of doing that. they say one thing you shouldn't do and then they do the other and i am so disappointed in them for standing behind trump. i believe the people following trump, i think a lot of them like the fact they can have

their guns and they don't have to have regulations. he does a lot of things that they agree with. even businesses, businesses can get away with a lot and the rich, of course they will like him. from what i'm seeing, i am so disappointed in the republican party like all of them and they stood behind that insurrection with trump. that finished me with the republican party. host: this is luanne out of columbus, nebraska, republican. did you watch the debate last night? caller: i just wanted to comment on how i don't believe in elections anymore. i support donald trump. i think there is one sided justice right now.

hunter biden and joe biden have done shady stuff that they are not -- there is no criminal charges or anything. host: are you not going to vote in the primary or general election? caller: i'm going to vote although i will vote for donald trump. host: lou, highland park, illinois, democrat, good morning. caller: good morning, i think there is a lot of evidence that trump watches a lot of television. from what i understand, he was watching the insurrection on tv what did he do? he kept watching tv but he did not call in the army or the national guard. i could never vote for men like that. it's obvious his lack of action aided the insurrection.

host: this is can in washington, west virginia, republican, good morning. did you watch the debate? caller: hi, i would like to make a few comments. when a republican gets there, you seem to kind of sidetracked them and start asking them questions but when the democrat is on there, you run -- let them run on. can i ask you a few questions? host: sure, go ahead. caller: do you like paying five dollars per gallon of gas? do you like doing to grocery stores and paying $100 for three bags of groceries? do you like escorting your mother to places because you were afraid she might get knocked in the head? joseph r biden, our enabler in chief, is controlled by hunter

biden, his son, his junkie son. how ridiculous is that? the extremists, they support anything and everything. the extremist is make e americaffed up again. host: coming up on 7:30 a.m. on the east coast. we are talking about last night's first presidential debate of the 2024 cycle and the republican debate was hosted by fox news in milwaukee. we are getting your reactions to that but also what is happening today with donald trump not at the debate last night but he will be in fulton county, georgia today to turn himself in. there is the jail facility there in fulton county, georgia. he is facing 13 charges related to racketeering and conspiracy involving the 2020 election,

expected to turn himself in sometime around 6 p.m. eastern perhaps today and be fingerprinted and have a mug set taken and several codefendants in that same case have already turned himself in. rudy giuliani himself in yesterday and several oths. we expect the former president later this evening. that is a live shut there and we will hear from you after -- that is a live shot there and we will hear from you after that. we expect that around 6 p.m. you can watch that here on c-span online or the free c-span now video app. back to the republican line, this is joe in connecticut. did you wash last night's debate? caller: yes, i did. host: what did you think? caller: it was ok, i know who i will vote for. host: can i ask who you will vote for? caller: you have to ask me?

there is only one man that can straighten out this country, only one. the reason why i called is a feel so sorry for these people that keep calling you and telling you that biden is doing the best he can. he's doing the best he can come he doing a great job and they keep talking about this insurrection. for two years, cities were burned and people were killed. police officers were killed and nobody did anything. they encouraged it but they keep talking about three hours of insurrection which was not even in insurrection. i keep watching c-span. it's like watching msnbc and cnn. you should ask these people when they call you and tell me what is biden doing that so great. he's been accused of bribes. you haven't spoken about it at all.

you don't keep -- all you do is keep talking about how -- you don't keep talking about how great trump is. you should talk about the men in office now and you should show it. host: this is bradley in west virginia, line for democrats, good morning. caller: good morning. i'm a vietnam veteran, 74 years old in this country has gone to you know what. the main reason is the individual that first talk from maryland and the other lady from maryland and two ladies from pennsylvania, they need to go to the doctor and get some medicine to get their head straight. host: what do you think? caller: well, i thought it was real good debate. they all like to run everything down. just like i said, you need to think about how much money, i

said i was a veteran, they sold this country out for billions of dollars and they're not doing a dad burn thing and i'm a veteran and demo -- and i've been a democrat since i was 18 years old and i'm probably going to change my politics before the election because it's pitiful what's going on. i commend the other guy from west virginia, talking about the price of everything. it's ungodly and we don't have to be like that. we can be self-sufficient but we are paying these other countries for our stuff. these democrats need to wake up especially before i was talking about because it is. i will vote for trump in jail for the simple reason he will do something for america, not for the party. host: the topic of ukraine came

up in the debate last night. one of those moments was carolina governor nikki haley going after ramaswamy for his answer to that question. [video clip] >> ukraine is the first line of defense for us. the problem that he doesn't understand is he wants to hand ukraine to russia and let china eat taiwan and wants to stop funding israel. you don't do that to friends. you have the backs of your friends and ukraine is a front line of defense. vladimir putin has said once russia takes ukraine, the baltics our next. we are trying to prevent war. look at what vladimir putin did today. when i was at the u.n., the russian investor suddenly died. this guy is a murderer and you are choosing a murderer over a friend.

[applause] >> you have 30 seconds. >> congratulations to your future on the boards of lockheed and raytheon. you've been pushing this lie all week. >> you want to defend israel? [applause] >> i will address each of those right now. there you have it. >> you have no foreign policy experience. [applause] host: nikki haley and ramaswamy last night on the stage in milwaukee. nikki haley making reference to this news yesterday out of russia --

this is andre, weatherford texas, independent, you are next. caller: i appreciate it. i watched the debate last night. everybody was trying to get their word in and the moderators didn't moderate and let everybody talk over everybody. you are a moderator, you're not a newspaper reporter that will

write stories. some of these people they said appear and they think hunter biden is running for president. he didn't put his name in. people need to check the fact. i am an independent but i lean democratic. when the republicans come in and they leave office, unemployment is high, inflation is high and our economy is on the down great. when the democrats come back in and like when bush left, obama had 10% unemployment and when he left it was 4.6%. if the republicans are so happy that donald trump brought it down, but obama brought it to 4.6% from 10%.

look at what biden is done with job creation and his 2.5 years compared to the jobs trump lost. host: to our republican line, baltimore, maryland, good morning. caller: good morning thanks for taking my call. host: we will work on that phone line because it's hard to hear you. let me go to perth amboy, new jersey, good morning. caller: good morning. my first time calling. i watched the debate last night. i feel anyone who can stand up there and protect donald trump of what he did should not be a president. that's my feeling this morning. host: this is st. louis,

missouri, republican, did you watch last night? caller: how are you doing this morning? and want some truth to come here. the true facts are that donald trump did call in the national guard. we know he was in charge of the police department and in charge of the capitol police. nancy pelosi and then refused to call the national guard. we know that is a fact now. i follow this very closely, there were no just there were more millionaires, people became richer under joe biden in two years then four years under trump. these are true facts. trump did call the national guard. they refused, the democratic party refused the national

guard. and there is a video that nancy pelosi's daughter is in that a guy copied or a guy made and why her daughter was speaking. she said this was a set up. now we have to figure out how to get the people out of jail that were part of the set up. host: during the debate last night, ron desantis had questions about generally six. if we focus on january 6, that focus on the election, that's what democrats want in 2024 and republicans might lose. what you think of that statement? caller: i believe trump right now is ahead of joe biden. i also believe more people are waking up every day realizing

how important trump was as the president of the united states and not as a politician. it is easy to put people in jail that are not politicians and trump is not a politician. i go back to that one lady who said trump made people rich and that's not true. the taxes for corporations, in 2016, i got a check back from the irs because i overpaid in corporate taxes because republicans lowered the corporate tax that helped me by my house. those are true facts. host: these are more comments from social media --

you can join the conversation on facebook or x and send us a text message at (202) 748-8003 or you can call in like joe did out of pennsylvania, republican, go ahead. caller: i see your focus is

going away from the debate last night. people are talking about trump and stuff. i did watch part of it but i don't know if it was from pure excitement or boredom but i fell asleep on the east coast. i didn't see it all but a couple of highlights was chris christie , when he commented, are you there? host: i'm listening. caller: sorry, chris christie said about the skinny guy in the middle and he referred him to the last time, that was barack obama and he was an amateur and that sounded like thecp when vivec was talking, it sounded like a canned comment. i like the fact that on his feet, coming back with you gave obama a big hug and you helped

him get elected. i think that just shows thatvivek i like the way he can think on his feet and the quickness of his mind on that. i don't know if you caught the one where martha macconnell weather was right or wrong, when she made the comment that if you want a man, as command and if you want something said or you want something done, ask a woman. host: i think nikki haley said that on stage. caller: i thought that was martha macconnell. i'm sorry about that than. anyhow, i will move on to host: what do you think about this headline?

caller: i think that has a message to it but i like the idea this may be more about vice presidential auditions. i was really pretty solid that you would have two businessman's such as trump and ramaswamy as president and then vice president. i think vivek would do a lot and would be out there as a vice president, getting things done and kind of following in trump's footsteps. i'm not sure he would take that position but i think that would boost any republican for a shot. i'm not even sure that trump wants anybody from this group or he would pick somebody as the former secretary of state.

i see how the media would tear him apart for picking a black eye but i like tim scott in a way. he had an interview and he gave five reasons why he would be a good president and it was five things trump had already done. that doesn't really qualify him over trump to be the next president. i thought tim scott had some things but i think he stayed focused on the issues of china plus one thing i would like to say quickly is nikki haley on her argument about the ukraine and supporting ukraine, it was all vladimir putin fault but myself, i find it a little bit

odd about biden jumping were quickly ending the war in afghanistan and getting right into a war with the ukraine. when joe biden, someone asked him what would happen if vladimir putin crossed the border and joe biden said what we would have to see what kind of incursion that would be or what our reaction would be. i think that was a red light plus prudent made it clear he did not want a nato state -- a -- that vladimir putin made it clear he did not want take nato stayed close to his border. they kind of opened the door by pushing nato toward -- ukraine toward nato. host: this is the wolverine state, randall, independent. caller: yes, good morning.

i was quite disappointed with the lack of vision of the republican party as it has to do with geopolitical issues. it left me with the impression that only president biden has vision of what is unfolding. he has referred to this as the new world order but i don't agree but the strategy the president has taken in achieving that new world order, i was disappointed that there was no discussion on that. there is a recent comment the united states is their number one enemy in light the fact the united states president biden is considering transferring $4 billion in oil revenues back to iran at a time when iran has called for the destruction of the state of israel. in other words, i didn't hear anyone, nikki haley got close, i think the policy that's in place

will lead america into world war iii. other theologians would refer to this as armageddon. president biden has referred to nuclear armageddon. host: you talk about the comments from iran saying we're the number one enemy. who is eric number one enemy do you think? caller: when you get to the outskirts of what's going on, it is china. china's aggression, they had made clear that their vision is a one china policy which if you backtrack, it goes all the way back to its approach. now today, it's taiwan. another hotspot that is close to exploding, president xi of china has made it clear that he's made

it clear that he does not support taiwan's ambition to become, the issue is self-determination which, if you backtrack to russia's military operation, it was a question of self-determination. the united nations itself embraces its cardinal law in its charter but it dish it did not get brush of ability to establish what greater autonomy is for the two republics in the donbas region. before zelinski, the president had started negotiations under the minsk -- under the minsk agreement recognize the russian argument which is those two republics having the inherent right of self-determination. host: on ukraine, the topic came

up on the debate stage in milwaukee. ukraine also came up in that conversation between tucker carlsen former president donald trump. here is a little bit of their discussion. [video clip] >> you're supposed to be getting out of -- getting us out of that horrible war that we are involved in with russia and ukraine. you could do that very easily. i don't believe he can do it because he is incompetent. that's a war that should end immediately, not because of one side or the other but because hundreds of thousands of people are being killed. can you imagine you're in an apartment house and rockets are going into that building and blowing it up and knocking it down? why should anybody, it's got to be stopped and it can be stopped easily. if i were president, it would

have never started. host: former president donald trump last night and that conversation with tucker carlsen. that was released right at the start time of the republican debate that took place in milwaukee. the debate went about two hours last night and there is plenty of commentary in today's papers about winners and losers from last night. you can make up your own mind. here is some of what's being written about this --

instead of selling he looked and sounded more like one of the pack. dan bowles writing in today's washington post. 15 minutes left in this segment. we will also be talking about it throughout our program today. if you don't get a chance to call in this segment, you will get more opportunities. this is brian out of massachusetts.

i couldn't watch the debate and i couldn't find it on basic cable. a few comments, i keep hearing people say you guys are biased and you asked these questions. c-span is totally unbiased. you let people speak. another thing, the gentle man from west virginia, the vietnam veteran who is going to vote for trump in prison, it's funny that people down south and brace from new york -- embrace someone from new york where or people and people less means have suffered from him and i'm proud of service members a put their lives out there forever country. we all just have to get along, that's all, thank you. host: salmon mississippi, lying

to republicans, good morning. caller: i watched the debate last night because i'm a ron desantis supporter but i'm a little disappointed. he couldn't talk because of the skinny guy. i thought chris christie was thought i -- was what i thought he would be, attacking trump and nikki haley did a good job and i think mike pence did a good job. irregardless, whoever the nominee is, joe biden is a disaster. i am tickled about these people who support joe biden and everybody knows he hasn't been a good president. he hasn't responded to what he needed to respond to like in maui and the other thing that

happened in the united states. i'm amazed that people are like that. then people talk about the people down south, not everybody down south supports trump. host: on ron desantis, one other column about last night's debate -- i want to get your thoughts on this.

caller: i agree with what nikki haley said. just census is the primary competition for trump -- desantis is the primary competition for trump. the democrats and the department of justice, they say what they are doing to him is purely political. i think he will be in jail. i don't think he will be the nominee. i think desantis is the nominee. i don't think biden will be there. i think he will assume room temperature before the event runs for a second term. probably that clown in california will be the nominee for the democratic party. host: back to the mountaineer state, democrat, good morning. caller: good morning.

if you allow me, i've got a couple of things i'd like to speak about. i am a coalminer at of mate one west virginia. in the history books, it's considered the town m that's historical for theatewan massacre and my wife is a professional schoolteacher. i. watched the debate last night i was somewhat disappointed that they did not recognize the working-class people. they seem to get down on unions and education. we are the people and the backbone the built this country. first of all, trump came to appalachia.

he had a big rally and he had his coalminer sat on and he said he was for jobs, jobs, jobs and you will get jobs, your kids and grandkids. they were tearing down preparation plans and shutting down coal mines. then when biden came along as president, he put the infrastructure built in. bill in. we had to have coal for these highways and bridges. many had to be replaced and it takes coal to make steel and there is more call running now than there has in the past seven years. i just want the people to know out there that it's working and it's not just the union and enjoying their holidays and

vacations. think of the ones that gave their sweat and tears and everything. if you vote for a republican, and i watched the debate and they were anti-worker. if you are antiunion, you are antiunion, your anti-worker. the working guys and gals are the ones that keep the coal fires burning for all of us. host: you said you watched the debate and you are a coalminer. i wonder what you think about starting that debate with the oliver anthony song, rich men north of richmond. one lyric is i wish politicians would look out more for miner s. what you think about starting the debate with that song? caller: it's great.

it hit me right in the heart. that's the heart and soul of america. that's what america is all about. we all need a piece of the pie. we not asking to be rich, just to survive and have a living for families. we are just like everyone else. host: denise out of california, about five minutes left in this segment. line for republicans, go ahead. caller: thank you so much. first of all, i always considered myself by political. because of the way things are, it kind of made me be a republican. it made me pick sides. all of you people that are

absolutely against trump, i want to ask you one question. if you woke up one morning and you found out, can you hear me? host: yes, ma'am. caller: if you woke up one morning and you found out that he was actually not the bad guy, what would you do? what if you found out that all of the people against trump work actually the bad guys? what would you do? just let that sit on the back burner. that's all i have to say. host: this is leeann on facebook --

a few more minutes for your comments and calls. earning is waiting in the keystone state, independent, good morning. caller: good morning, everybody. let me start with that quote from william casey. this information campaign is successful when everything americans believe is false. why are we regurgitating what these same retreads on all the time on the debate as they all belong to the same kabbalah.

george carlin used to say that it's a big club and we are not in it. why are we fighting each other over who said what and who is right and wrong? they are all part of the same dog and pony show. wake up, we got problems. you always talk about russia and china. we own them. 70,000 american manufacturers in china. if we want to do damage to them, we would pull out. host: who is not part of the same dog and pony show as you describe it? caller: the one you see on tv. they are part of the masonic kabbalah. host: we go to florida, democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. my goodness. you all have your hands full when you have these people calling in.

the lady that called up and said what would you do if you woke up and found out -- you don't have to wake up because you hear about donald trump in his mess and what he has done to this country. he is the reason we are divided. he stoked up the racial doings and he has just ruined this country. i am giving having battles with my own son. it's family against family. it's people against people. donald trump is a criminal and the sooner these people wake up and see what he has done, hopefully, it will be better. thank you for letting me talk. host: last call in this segment is barber in texas, republican. caller: good morning.

i want to talk about willis as the da in the trump case. host: we've got about a minute or so left. do you have any thoughts on the arraignment today? caller: yes, why is willis using the ricoh law when it supposed to be used for going after mob bosses and murderers killing and gangs? host: i think we got your point in the easiest thing to do is for you to turn your tv down. you will be able to hear the converer>> washington journal c. host: back to your calls for the next 20 minutes to talk about last night's presidential debates, the first presidential debate of the 2024 cycle.