afraid to go there. politically everyone will watch house speaker mccarthy navigates the next couple of weeks and will there be a government shutdown. a lot of people think it is more likely than not this time around. host: we will definitely be watching that. caitlin emma is a budget and appropriations reporter for >> our coverage of the 22nd anversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks continues this afrnoon with president biden. you will be speaking -- he will be speaking from anchorage, alaska. live coverage on c-span, also online at c-span.org and our mobile video app c-span now. >> c-span is your unfiltered view of government. we are funded these television companies and more, including comcast. >> you think this is just a

community center? no, it is way more than that. comcast is partnering with community centers to create wi-fi-enabled list so cameras cahave the tools to be ready for anything. >> comcast supports c-span as a public service along with other television providers, giving you a front row seat to democracy. instagram on @cspanwj. welcome to today's "washington journal." a couple of programming notes i want to make sure you are aware of. president biden will be coming back from the g20 summit, and he will be giving remarks about 9/11 in alaska. we will have live coverage of that at 4:15 p.m. eastern here on c-span. the pentagon's 9/11 commemoration ceremony will follow this program at 9:00 a.m. eastern, and we will carry that live on c-span. new york city's 9/11

commemoration ceremony will get underway at 8:46 a.m., when the first plane hit the tower. that will be live coverage on c-span 2, but we will show you the beginning of that here on this program. all of those, also, you can watch on c-span.org and c-span now, our free mobile video app. take a look at this article from usa today with a headline, how many people died in 9/11 -- firefighters, passengers, and more who died 42 years ago. this september 11 marks 22 years since the terrorist attacks on the world trade center and pentagon. an event that changed americans live forever. united airlines flight 100 75 and american airlines flight 11 departed from boston en route to california before hijackers crashed them into the north and south towers of the world trade

center in new york city. american airlines flight 77 hit the pentagon, while passengers attempted to overtake knighted airlines flight 93 from hijackers before it crashed in pennsylvania. it left 2977 dead across new york, washington, d.c., and pennsylvania. that total includes the 2700 53 who died after the planes struck the twin towers, 184 at the pentagon, and 40 people who died when flight 93 crash landed in pennsylvania. the youngest flight passenger who died was christine hansen, a 2-year-old on her way to disneyland. the oldest was robert norton at 82. the 19 hijackers from the militant islamic extremist group al qaeda also died. then-president george w. bush

was at an education event with second graders in sarasota, florida. here are a portion of his remarks moments after learning about the attacks. [video clip] >> ladies and gentlemen, this is a difficult moment for america. i, unfortunately, will be going back to washington after my remarks. i do want to thank the folks here at the booker elementary school for their hospitality. today, we have had a national tragedy. two airplanes have crashed into the world trade center in an apparent terrorist attack on our country. i have spoken to the vice president, to the governor of new york, to the director of the fbi, and i've ordered that the full resources of the federal government go to help the victims and their families and to conduct a full-scale

investigation to hunt down and to find those folks who committed this act. terrorism against our nation will not stand. and now, if you join me in a moment of silence. may god bless the victims, their families, and america. thank you very much. [applause] host: that was 22 years ago today, september 11, and we are spending this first hour remembering that, asking you how you remember it, how are you commemorating this day. this is a gallup poll asking how concerned are you about being a victim of terrorism? here, you can see the numbers here going all the way back from 1997 to 2021.

here is the spike just after 9/11, going up to 58%. these are the numbers that are either very or somewhat worried about you or someone in your family being a victim of terrorism, coming down here to 36% most recently. i also want to show you before we start taking calls very soon -- the numbers are on your screen by region. eastern and central time zones, (202) 748-8000. mountain and pacific, (202) 748-8001. for those outside the united states, call us on (202) 748-8002. rudy giuliani, of course, was the mayor of new york city at the time. he gave remarks on this day 22 years ago. [video clip] >> a situation like this, a tragedy like this, instills lots of feelings about anger and hatred. i ask of the people of the city

not to have those feelings right now or ever. the reality is hatred and insanity and prejudice caused this situation, probably. and we have a lot of people in this city of all different backgrounds and diverse religions -- they are not responsible for this. whoever is responsible at this -- for this came from outside the city of new york. i am sure the ics government will figure out who it is and we will make an example of them, but that should be left to law enforcement authorities, like the police and the fbi and the military, not the people of this city. nobody should react this way. we have no reason to expect anyone will, but i thought it would be a good idea to remind everyone of that. hatred, prejudice, anger, and irrational reaction to things is what caused this tragedy, and the people of the city of new york should act differently. we should act bravely, act in a tolerant way. we should go about our business and show these people they

cannot stop us. and they can't. host: that was rudy giuliani, of course. he is in the news still. this is an associated press article about him. it says the fall of rudy giuliani, how america's mayor tied his fate to donald trump and got indicted. the article says this, that rudy giuliani glared across the washington hearing room as a lawyer seeking his apartment after the january 6 insurrection act how did this man, celebrated as america's mayor after 9/11, become a leader of an attempt to overturn a national election? it is like they are two different people. this is what the lawyer said last december -- i do not know what happened to you gianni -- to rudy giuliani or what. he has seen his reputation

eviscerated, and now his liberty imperiled for his steadfast assent to donald trump's claims. let's go to the phones now. dan is in saulsberry, massachusetts. caller: good morning. thanks for having me on. i have called into this show -- i started to call into this show because of 9/11. i started watching this show because i really started to become very concerned about the activities of our government, but i had not spent enough time looking into how our government acted. i knew i never wanted to be a democrat or a republican. i knew there were issues, but after 9/11, it compelled me to really take a deep dive into the

activities of our government, which we, as united states citizens, are responsible for our government. and i tell you, that was a very difficult, eye-opening look. it changed my worldview, because i decided, as a human being, i needed to stay with the facts, stay with science, regardless of propaganda, rhetoric, and persuasion. and, boy, it revealed a lot of things. and i will tell you, since taking a deep dive into how our government operates since 9/11 they have really gone overboard with propaganda, that is

actually legalized domestically by this thing called the smith mann drowned act that was slipped in the 2012 defense authorization act. that is where we are getting the media completely lying to us, and there is really no repercussions. i just wanted to shout out all the victims of 9/11. of course, i feel for them. there is only a couple people left in the world who have the capability of suing the united states government because they have had direct relatives who have died. they have been denied, year after year after year, any court time. and there is a group of engineers i also want to shout out to, architects and engineers for 9/11 truth. they have thousands of licensed structural engineers talking

about how impossible the events that happened in new york city were -- host: all right, dan. and speaking of grievances, here is the full text of bin laden's letter to america, where he outlines his grievances against the country. this was released just after the 9/11 attacks the following year in 2002, calling on americans to embrace the religion of islam as well. i will not read it here, but if you would like to read it, it is at theguardian.com. lou is in tampa, florida. caller: good morning, c-span. good morning, america. i think that it is a sad day. and, you know, we can't put our

finger on everything that transpired before this horrible act happened, but a good friend of mine up in new york -- i was up in new york at the time. a good friend of mine, his father, worked for -- worked on campus fitzgerald. he was never found. i feel bad. i feel really bad for all the people that lost, the fathers, the mothers, everybody. it is a solemn day. i could never go to the museum. i went to the pools. and all those firefighters and ems, police officers, all those ray people. and they are still very brave. we've got to come together. i know this country is divided, but we got to persevere. we have to come together in this

country, because we are ripping ourselves apart. worse than maybe another september 11th attacks, we have to come together. thanks for your time on the phone. i appreciate it a lot. host: and lou mentioned the fire fighters. abc news is reporting that the 9/11 death toll continues to rise 22 years later. the fdny continues to feel the impact of that day. the fire commissioner said that they have got a memorial wall of those killed as a result of 9/11, and the search-and-rescue and additional numbers are being added to that. a new ceremony unveiled on wednesday revealed the second largest group to be added to the memorial wall since it was created 12 years ago with 59 names. teresa is in ormond beach, florida. good morning.

caller: yes, good morning. god bless all the victims of 9/11. i just want to say that no iraqis on those planes that bombed the towers, and yet my favorite president, george w. bush took us to war and had so many of our soldiers killed and so many people over there just for some show. i will tell our governor here of florida, he wanted to sue the saudis a few years ago because of the people that were killed on 9/11. but you know, there is a long connection with the saudis and the bush family. there is a book called "house of bush, house of saud," in the way -- we are not supposedly sending them weapons, but our present

president is still sending them weapons. so anyway, i always wished al gore, who rightfully did win the election -- we would have had a different world right now. but still, it is a sad day. and i agree with governor graham -- the saudis have not paid yet. they are due. host: and a few posts here on social media. on facebook, tony says, after all these years, i still cannot talk about it without shedding tears. all the heartbreak, misery, and fear on that day still gets to me. in the aftermath of that day, there was so much bravery and sacrifice by citizens pulling together to help. marks said, also on facebook, it should be a national holiday to remember the people who died that day. albert said god bless the new york firefighters that

sacrificed their lives for honor and duty. douglas in new hampshire, good morning. caller: yeah, hi. i am calling to say that we will never get the full truth of what happened that day, just like we are never going to learn about what happened to kennedy. the commission was rigged from the beginning. we looked at every engineer worth his weight in -- or they will tell you buildings do not collapse like that, especially when trillions went missing a couple weeks before. it's fishy. host: douglas, did you ever read the report done by the engineers at nist regarding the collapse of the towers? caller: i did not, no. host: so there was an extensive, years long study by the national institute of standards and technology that you may take a look that that explains why those towers behaved like they

did and collapsed in the way that they did. and james is in lawrence, massachusetts. good morning. caller: good morning. i would like to express my soup of the to anyone who lost their lives or connected to losing their lives to this terrible disaster. i would also like to thank c-span for shooing -- for showing their true callers for trying to smear rudy giuliani or anyone. i am a democrat, man, but what you just did was the most disgusting thing i've ever seen on television. this station is just going down the toilet with the rest of the country and the bidens. thank you. host: all right. and let's take a look at thehill.com. this is headlined pence swipes

over 9/11 comments. it said republican presidential candidates exchanged barbs after the former vice president was deeply offended by comments not believing the 9/11 commission. -- when he was asked whether he believed the government about the september 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, "i don't believe the government has told us the truth." ramaswamy said, what i've seen the last couple of years, we have to be skeptical of what the government does tell us. he said, i have not seen evidence to the contrary, but do i believe everything the government has told us? absolutely not. he said, do i believe that 9/11 commission? absolutely not. pence responded, said those, stiffly -- deeply --

said those comments deeply offended him. he said he was probably in elementary school, i was on capitol hill. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i would like to reply to the person who just called prior to me about giuliani and new york city. i've lived in new york city my entire life. i was actually on my way to college when what happened -- it was a tuesday morning. the skies were blue. and it is called the southern train. it connects queens to manhattan. i just want everybody in the united states listening to this to understand what you would have seen that day. i will be brief, and i will finish my point. have you been on the train, the southern train on that day, you have probably seen people from every culture you could imagine, every religion, every caller -- color.

that is what democracy looks like. democracy is not easy. it is about tolerance, it is about accepting, and it is about being in a room with people you may not agree with. we were stuck in trains all day, and that is not easy. but that is what it looks like. democracy is not waking up and looking at yourself in the mirror every step of your way across the day, looking at news you agree with, looking at people exactly like you. and on that day, when those towers went down, it is a sad and tragic day, because after that, all we saw were pamphlets everywhere of people missing, and the streets were closed down, and there was a sense of union that giuliani was a part of. he allowed the city to move on from this tragic event. it united us, and it tried to

move our city and country forward. sadly, what happened on january 6 was an extremely sad day, because no matter what the taliban did on 9/11, the ideal of the united states was not stride. on january 6, the ideal of what this country is was shattered. and the people that support, the people who look at alternative stocks, the people who look at us and say this was just a parade, this was just a march, people who have been arrested because of this, people coming up on stage -- the candidates that came up and said they would pardon trump for what he did, that has done what they never could do. anyone calling talking about that they are sad, look at what is happening now in this country

and see that democracy is threatened, and we have to take a real look at ourselves in the mirror and say what is the real future of our country? thank you. host: let's take a look at then-president george w. bush addressing the nation on the evening of september 11 from the oval office. [video clip] >> good evening. today, our federal -- our fellow citizens, our way of life, came under attack in a series of deadly and deliberate terrorist attacks. the victims were in airplanes or in offices. secretaries, businessmen and women, military and federal workers, moms and dads, friends and neighbors. thousands of lives were suddenly ended by evil, despicable acts of terror. the pictures of airplanes flying into buildings, fires burning,

huge structures collapsing, have filled us with disbelief, terrible sadness, and a quiet, unyielding anger. these acts of mass murder were intended to frighten our nation into chaos and retreat. but they have failed -- our country is strong. a great people has been moved to defend a great nation. terrorist attacks can shake the foundations of our biggest buildings, but they cannot touch the foundation of america. these acts shattered steel, but they cannot dent the steel of american resolve. host: that was president bush 22 years ago today on 9/11. we are taking your calls about this day and the remembrance and how you are spending the day, how you are marking the day. john is in cleveland, ohio. caller: good morning. i really liked -- ramaswamy.

i do not put -- promoted by practically the entire media and government in this country. i think people that -- a phrase i device myself. cia controls media and movies to demonize countries for u.s. attacks against them. cia controls media -- host: so, john, what do you think happened on 9/11 then? caller: i believe it was an inside job that let it happen or made it happen on purpose -- host: for what end? caller: for the invasion of countries around the world, from afghanistan to iraq, of course. and if the d -- and the draconian diminishing of our civil rights in this country

and the guys protecting us -- host: couldn't that have been done without killing 3000 americans? caller: well, exactly, the people within the government, the necon variety around the bush-cheney administration talked about their grand designs for u.s. hegemony around the world could not be accomplished with out a second pearl harbor attack to galvanize public opinion in the united states. and there is a word you can look up, anybody can look up -- operation mockingbird. it was a plan of the pentagon to kill americans. operation mockingbird, look it up. and they smugly said in this document, that was released by james van peart inside the national security agency, a

conspiracy to kill americans with terrorist attacks to justify a worldwide intervention around the world, and we have seen that ever since. i think people should look that up, operation mockingbird. it was actually released documents -- host: we got that, john. and here is a text we got from mike in santa monica, california. he says it should not take an attack or an act of war like and 11 was tonight us as a nation, meaning we are divided or united as make up our minds to be. this is also a text from larry in chicago. i hear all the time about china being our biggest threats. to me, the biggest immediate threat is still al qaeda and all their cohorts. no one even talks about 9/11 anymore except on 9/11. maybe this threat will be thought about at least today. and on x, rr says "i will never

forget the sadness, the the wilderness, the fear, and confusion from that day. trying to get in touch with people who worked at the towers to see if they were alive. watching the towers collapsed was surreal. it was a horrible day, and the not knowing was the worst." martin, harrisburg, pennsylvania, good morning. caller: yeah, martin crawford. i worked at that navy demo in pennsylvaniade the base was a 7-eleven sto it was owned and operated by a guru from pakistan. i was a security guard at the time. --were all in the store. i reported to the fbi and the secret service