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to get the tools they need to be ready for anything. announcer: comcast supports c-span as a public service, along with these other television providers, giving you a front row seat to democracy. >> coming up on washington journal, texas republican congressman nathie moran talks about the septeer0 government funding deadline, the hearing with attorney general merrick garland andido ukraine. also lenve on the hearing with the attorney general and e future of affirmative action. then axios busines reporter nathan bomey discusses the united auto workers strike. washington journal is next. ♪ host: five american citizens held prisoner by iran for many years are returning home this
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morning. the agreement between the u.s. and iran also held the united states on various arges and freeze up $6 billion in irian funds held in south korea. it has generated praise and condemnation and is fulfilled on the day that president biden is said to address the united nations general assembly. it is tuesday, september 19, 2023. welcome to washington journal. this first half hour we will talk to you about the release of the american hostages in iran. to join the conversation this morning, called (202) 748-8000 if you support the deal arranged between the united states and iran. if you oppose the deal, it is (202) 748-8001. we welcome comments via text, (202) 748-8003. tell us your name and where you are texting from. we are also on facebook, we will
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look for your post there and our next and instagram. you can post at c-span wj and we will post those as well. will get deeper in the next half-hour, a quick conversation on this topic, getting deeper into what the deal between the u.s. and iran is all about. we may also be seeing some of the hostages returning, the prisoners, american held against iran, they are returning at fort bell war -- a fort outside of the capital. also though september 30 deadline looming next week. we will hear from siobhan hughes of the wall street journal. but first on the release of those americans, five americans detained in iran walk free, released in a deal for frozen iranian assets. five americans detained for
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years in iran walked off a plane and into freedom monday, most arm in arm as part of a politically risky deal that saw president biden agree to the release of nearly $6 billion in frozen iranian assets owed by south korea. it's the successful negotiations for the freedom of these americans, ap rights, rot biden profuse thanks from the families but heat from republican presidential rivals and other opponents with a monetary arrangement with one of america's top adversaries. that is from the associated press. one of the headlines on the story in the hill this morning, biden, americans released from iran into quote agony, uncertainty and suffering. president released a statement yesterday reading in part, today five innocent americans who were imprisoned in iran are finally coming home.
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includo citizens who wish to remain private, they will all eunited with their loved after enduring years of agony, uncertainty and suffering, i'm grateful to our partners at home and abroad where their tireless efforts to achieve this outcome include the governors of iran, south korea. as we lce home our citizs, i remind all americans the serious risks of traveling to iran. american passport holders should not travel there. part of the statement from president biden. they were released in doha qatar. antony blinken was there to meet them and he talked about that meeting yesterday and a half. -- in doha. >> we spoke to them yesterday in joe hawk. it was for them, for me, an
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emotional conversation. it is easy in the work we do every day sometimes to get lost in the abstractions of foreign policy and relations with other countries. forgetting that human element at the heart of everything we do. but today, the freedom of these americans for so long unjustly imprisoned and detained in iran means some basic things. it means that husbands and wives , fathers and children, grandparents can hug each other again, see each other again. can be with each other again. it's host: secretary of state antony blinken yesterday in doha. the prisoners released by iran
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do this morning. you're asking if you support the deal between the u.s. and iran. visit (202) 748-8000 if you support, (202) 748-8000 if -- (202) 748-8001 if you oppose the deal. from the front page, iran freeze five americans in prisoner exchange. i will show you inside what they delve into in the story about the release and what was in the deal. from usa today, what did the u.s. and iran agree to? the u.s. has been freezing iran's assets and piling on economic sanctions ever since president donald trump pulled out of the 2015 nuclear deal between iran and world powers in 2018. deal was aimed at curbing international allegations that iran denies, that is seeking to clear weapons. under the previous agreement,
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the u.s. has given a green light to south korea to effectively pay iran through the qatar banking system's before the trumpet magician imposed sanctions on these types of transactions in 2019. the white house said these funds will be held in restrictive accounts in tar double only -- qatar that will only allow them to purchase goods such as food, medicine, medical devices and goods. our first caller in elizabeth city. good morning. caller: i oppose this deal because what message are we sending? what message are we sending out there to other countries that may target americans? don't get me wrong, i am all for bringing them home. i am all for reuniting families. no question about that. it's freedom. i'm all for that.
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but does anybody seriously think that iran when they get this money are going to use it for humanitarian purposes? who is fooling who? host: this is the first video we are seeing of americans coming home from iran on american soil, greeted by loved ones. continue with your thoughts. caller: luck i said, i am all for them coming home. no question about that. there was no question in anyone's mind about bringing home people. but the deal is sending the wrong message with other entities. others may disagree but that's where i stand.
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host: linda from mississippi, good morning. caller: good morning, thanks for taking my call. i agree. -- can you hear me? host: you're doing fine. we can. caller: those people that were captured have been over there for over eight years in the money -- years. the money the united states leads to them was their money. it was not given to them all at once. the united states will keep hands on it and give it to them in small portions. those that criticize the deal do
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not understand foreign policy. iran was not going to turn those prisoners free. it is not going to happen. russia, china, you have got to negotiate with them. and they are not going to do it out of the goodness of their hearts. i agree. it would be a different thing. i agree. the united states did great. thank you. host: as we mentioned, the video we are seeing, we are just seeing it as well, the first video of the iranian -- the americans formerly held in iran arriving. i think that is just outside the nation's capital where they have returned. my producer will correct me if that is not the case. arthur opposes the deal, calling
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from florida. good morning. arthur-- caller: i'm very glad the hostages are coming home. but why did we freeze iranian assets to begin with? second, are we going to reward bad behavior anytime some country decides they want -- they don't care about their own people, they will take some hostages and we will get our people back? asserted issue is, when we know a nation like iran has hostages,
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maybe we need to stay out of countries like that. i thank you for your time. host: we will hear next -- our lines this first half-hour talking about the release of the americans held in iran, five americans held for various reasons by iran. the lines are if you support the release deal between the u.s. and iran, (202) 748-8000. if you oppose, (202) 748-8001. joseph calling from syracuse, new york. caller: hit their always refused to release the jews to the united states, i do not think they should bribe iran to release hostages.
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host: margaret in upstate new york, on the support line. go ahead. caller: my president brought them home. i happen to like it has a president. those all have to say. host: margaret in upstate new york. again, (202) 748-8000 is the line to call if you support the ideal -- the deal and iran. if you oppose, we will get back to more of your phone calls and comments. (202) 748-8001 we are joined by siobhan hughes, congressional reporter for the wall street journal. welcome to washington journal this morning. checking on where we stand with a september 30 deadline looming for congress and the house. how many working days do they have to get this done?
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guest: there are roughly 1000 calendar days left to get this done and those are translating into working days because kevin mccarthy has indicated he could pull people in town through the weekend until all of this gets hammered out. kind of a marathon session we are in for. host: the latest iteration of the short-term spending measures deal announced that the deal on the republican side between the house freedom caucus and the mainstreet caucus, that would always -- only run through the end of october. even passing that deal we would be back and doing this in october. guest: we will be back doing this in october. we would avoid a government shutdown, hundreds of thousands of furloughs, a temporary cessation of certain government services. better than a shutdown. host: do speaker mccarthy think
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he has the support on the republican side to pass this? guest: he does not. what we seem to be headed for is calculated strategy of putting these measures on the floor, potentially watching them fail and letting it be up to the constituents to put pressure on these members and maybe putting mccarthy in the position of isolating them and blaming them for any consequences. host: what would be the number so far, your account of the public inside of the house, that are opposing the speaker on this issue? guest: i'm looking at more than one dozen house republicans -- if everybody shows up to vote, you can lose no more than four members of his party and this will be on the republican basis. st: notably, this deal wod
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cut 8.1% of spending, but it would be nondefense spending and except for defense and emergency aid. do republicans hope that 8.1% figure will carry through the end of the year and into the new fiscal year? guest: there are a number of republicans who would like that level of cuts to carry into the new fiscal year. this group wanted to go back to fiscal 2022 spending levels. but even there it gets a little complicated. one of the ways that the larger package got to those by pulling money from programs that had already been funded and trying to boost the budget that way. the interior, someone like mike stenson what to minimize that. host: what is the democrat strategy in the house?
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guest: i talked to hakeem jeffries last week and my question was, if push comes to shove and kevin mccarthy comes to you and asks for this, could you support that? i expected him to jump in and say yes. but he says it depends what you mean by a clean cr. he says there would have to be elements of the supplemental that biden called for. he is not safe with that meant. but it is clearly a negotiation. host: republicans are hoping from constituents, the same -- they would be from the democrat constituents. guest: when kevin mccarthy proceeded from an impeachment inquiry, that appears to have poisoned the well. there's a question of how far it can go in working with a lot of
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democrats who feel this is unworkable. it is hard to rip -- break bed -- break bread with republican's now. host: we understand it is a changeable subject. the appreciate your update, we look forward to your reporting. thanks for being with us this morning. our conversation this first half-hour is more broadly about the deal between the u.s. and iran, freeing five americans held for years in the country. and iranians held by the u.s. on some charges. some 6 billion funds -- some $6 billion in funds being held by south korea. (202) 748-8000 is aligned to call if you support the deal. if you oppose, (202) 748-8001.
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we are seeing videos of americans being greeted by loved ones arriving home this morning. margaret on the support line. caller: god bless american. . the mentor home, the money we freed up was to pay our oil money and two of the five iranians decided to stay here so what does that tell you? i think we did great. host: margaret in utah, we appreciate you. this is from the reporting of out to zero, al jazeera.net. prisoner swap important first step but tensions remain. writing this morning, the prisoner swap between the united states and iran is a step toward de-escalating tensions between the two countries, experts say. but it does not point to an
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eminent fall in frosty relations. alex bottega, director of the iran program at the middle east institute think tank in washington, called the prisoner exchange a transactional deal. the agreement also included the release of five iranian prisoners in the u.s. and the unfreezing of $6 billion in iranian funds blocked in south korea due to american sanctions. everybody is basically reconciling themselves with the facts -- the fact the best they can do for now is take small steps toward preventing a crisis, they told al jazeera. there is no big vision being articulated that can tell us something in terms of a breakthrough in the pipeline. there is no sign of that. five american citizens previously detained in iran were flown out of the country on monday as part of an agreement which was facilitated by qatar and other countries. read that at al jazeera.net.
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(202) 748-8000 is the line to call if you support the deal. (202) 748-8001 if you oppose. here's mitch mcconnell on the floor, talking about the money involved in this deal. >> it will wrap up production of the weaponized wrongs used against arabs and civilians to supply violence in ukraine. these militias continue to threaten servicemembers in iraq and syria. iran continuing to dust resources in lebanon, others that attack israel. and the regime has even plotted to kill u.s. officials. here on american soil.
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it's last week, they seized two more junker ships in the arabian growth -- cold--arabian gulf in an effort to threaten freedom of navigation and the entire economy. the growing threat has led the u.s. military to deploy 3000 additional marines to the red sea and prepared to put u.s. personnel they are to deter iranian aggression. around opposed the aggression threat to its neighbors in the united states. biden ministration's squandered leverage and has left americans less secure. the question is when the president will decide to change
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course. so far, his administration is obsessed with reviving a flawed nuclear deal and it suggests otherwise. host: from the washington post, the lead editorial this morning, five americans today, how many tomorrow? the return of hostages from iran is cause for celebration, the cost is great. the washington post say this, the harsh truth is that rewarding hostagetaking breeds more of the same. rogue states claim the jail door -- clang the jail door shut and wait for the payoffs and almost never suffer consequent as for stealing people on the street. the best deterrent would be for the united states and other nations to refuse to negotiate for the release of such hostages. but that has proved unattractive for u.s. officials who have struck unbalanced deals to free innocent americans from foreign
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cells. such decisions can only inspire a mix of understanding and regret. optimists may regard the deal as a prelude to the thought and dust in the hostility between the united states and iran, yet should mind americans of why they should treat iran with extreme caution. iran is now allied with russia in the exported manufacture of deadly drones exploding on civilian targets in ukraine, killing innocent people as they flee. at home, the theocracy has confronted a year-long protest movement led by women and students with relentless coercion and violence. (202) 748-8000 if you support the iran deal, (202) 748-8001 if you oppose. in west virginia, arbor -- barbara. good morning. caller: yes. i would like to say it's i think
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we need to get our people back, but it -- a trade for trade, yes. i don't believe they should release any money because they are such an evil country and they don't give the people food and stuff, no matter how much money they send over there. they want to kill everybody and be the world leader. that is how i feel. host:, david in albany, georgia who also opposes the deal. david. caller: i don't really oppose, i'm just curious, i am up to speed. how long were they detained and what was the reason for them being there to begin with? thank you for lead and become it. host: all five were detained on various different charges. i will try to look at those if we get a chance. secretary of state antony blinken yesterday and doha,
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qatar. he was the first american to greatly former hostages. >> as you know, this involved access to iran by its own money, money that had accumulated in a green bank as a result of recent oil sales which were lawful on the time those sales were made. and from day one, our sanctions have always exempt the use of resources for humanitarian purposes. because our aim is not to harm the iranian people. our profound problem is with the iranian regime. from day one, these iranian moneys have always been available for iran to use for humanitarian purposes. but for humanitarian reasons,
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they were not able to access those funds from where they were. so they were moved to another bank, where we have absolute oversight of how they are used and they can only get used for the humanitarian purposes. we have absolute confidence in the process and the system that has been set up. the previous ministration prior -- administration prior to ours set up a similar machination that was never used but for these purposes. host: back to the calls and comments. beatrice is next, in minneapolis. welcome. it's caller: i am in oregon, but only the people against it focus on the impeachment. you have to go back to the 1950's. you go back to the 1950's and --
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iran contra, all that happened and we got what happened in iraq and afghanistan. but iran is not the problem. we are trading prisoners and hopefully it will be this way. but we created the problem. good day. host: have a good day at yourself. video from this morning, the americans returning to the united states. in oregon, this is how. go ahead. -- al. go ahead. caller: i'm not opposing people being free. but i am imposing the $6 billion it was there. all of a sudden now it is being used against us in some way. against everybody else. we are giving that leverage back to them.
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i can't believe we released that much stuff and it was for iran, oil money? we are in too much bs for what is going on. host: the headline from nbc, it says iran will spend the $6 billion released in prisoner exchange quote wherever we need it. officials have said the proceeds of the iranian oil sales to south korea can only be spent for humanitarian purposes. concerns raised by the chairman of the house intelligence committee. he spoke on face the nation on sunday. >> whatever you do this, you get incentive for people to take more hostages, these are billions of dollars and that is the concern. the ministration really said they are only giving their own money. but the other aspect is these moneys can be used to support terrorist organizations and
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hamas, and adventuresome actions of iran. they say this is limited to humanitarian aid, but they acknowledge the funds are fungible so they can move them around. so people are concerned as to what this is. the administration's answer is people should not go to iran and i want to echo that. people should not be going to iran. >> but you are not moving on a travel ban. >> no. people should know they are at risk and they should not go. host: our phone lines, if you support the deal freeing the americans in iran, (202) 748-8000. if you oppose the deal, (202) 748-8001. a couple of your comments on social media. pam on facebook says i'm happy hour americans are coming home. he says world leaders are now in new york and you and functions. american and iranian leaders
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will be there. maybe issues like nuclear development and terrorism can be addressed between the two sides hostages and sanctions issues are off the table. cindy says trump got our prisoners back without one penny being spent under trump. and lucien says it's what is it about the fact that the iranian money were frozen because of sanctions were given back to them and it was not american taxpayer dollars? how many times are you going to be told this before you stop the conspiracy theories? what's here from -- let's hear from ali in virginia. go ahead. caller: first of all, i support the deal, mostly because if we can take the politics out of it, we have five americans that were locked up. imagine those were your relatives. also, we have the iranian people
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. people do not trust the government. and if you don't like some buddy, you are not going to see anything good. i believe this money was spent for the deal and around nash people concerned about the money , 6 billion dollars, they can get that money. so we might as well as fight spend it to let them pray. thank you. host: video this morning of americans returning to their loved ones. there is more ahead on washington journal. coming up, we will talk to two members of congress about the quickly approaching government funding deadline. the impeachment and gray against president biden and other issues as well. joined next by freshman republican nathaniel of texas and freshman democrat iv of maryland will follow that. more ahead on the journal.
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a personal story. every horseman has a different journey. mine started when my parents moved to east texas. i grew up in east texas, the place that i represent. it is my home and the place that i love. so i present the values of the congressional district and the first district of texas. it is proud to represent those folks in east texas, great folks. i'm a lawyer by trade, i was a judge for the last six years in smith county in northeast texas. i represent 17 counties there. i owned a staffing company before he got here so i've got experience in the business and legal world. i am proud to be married to my wife for 24 years. she was a former educator before we started having kids and we now have four children, 18, 16, 7 and six. they are the reason i ran for congress. i am a guy that believes in more freedom, less government and more ability for our decisions
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in our hard work in this world to determine our outcome instead of government determining our outcome. that is my goal, to help reduce the influence of government in daily life, one of in a family, business, a church, and nation. whatever it is, a school. we want less government and more individual freedom. that is my goal. host: and without legal background sitting on the foreign affairs committee as well, also presently, a fight you probably anticipate it would happen around this time of year, the annual spending battle in congress. what are your observations in terms of the deadline of getting something done by next week and do you think that will happen? guest: these are tough issues for us to deal with, no question. and we've got tough decisions to make this week. there has been a lot of talk about the vote on thursday about this proposed cr, it has a lot of border security address from
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hr to incorporated. -- hr-two incorporated. i support that measure. but beyond that, even if we get that passed, there is a final decision to make on all 12 of our bills to make sure we reach an agreement and fund the government. i'm not afraid of a shutdown but are not looking for it. it does not solve the problem long-term and it does not do us any good. what we need to do is get together, find areas of consensus and find the solution moving forward. when you're dealing with members of congress, each represented -- elected independently, each representing a different perspective on what they want to see happen in funding the government. we have to learn to work together and work to a solution. i think we are going to do that, whether that happens before the end of this month, i'm hopeful it will. but certainly i do not control
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the other members of congress. host: we will open up our phone lines. the line for democrats, (202) 748-8000. (202) 748-8001 for republicans, independent caller: -- the independence, (202) 748-8002 and more. in the deal with the freedom caucus, you touched on this, there is border security. the is also that there would be no additional aim for ukraine -- aid for ukraine. the president has requested that. you sit on the foreign affairs committee. what is your view on the request guest: i do not support the request as stated. but let's talk broadly. if you talk back in the homeland, most people oppose funding to ukraine simply
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because of what we are not doing domestically. when i talk to folks back home and they say no more money for ukraine, and what is the basis for that, they tell me they are upset about the spending level in the united states. we are spending way too much and we don't have the money. any money we spend over there now is borrowed money. it is a valid complaint. there also upset because we are not protecting our own borders. and we are not looking first to our homeland and saying we need to secure our southern border before we start working -- worrying about the borders of others. there are some serious consequences if ukraine does not win this war against russia. so i fully support -- i am a fiscal and defense caulk. -- hawk. i oppose cash going over there. we have problems with cash going in the wrong hands and disappearing in a way that we
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don't intend. but we need to support that effort and pushback on russia in terms of training ukrainian soldiers and equipment bombs, bullets and things that are needed to win a war. and we need to be aggressive about that. because if russia is not defeated in this conflict, it is going to breed additional conflicts that will cost the taxpayers in america and lot more. we're talking about potential conflicts in china and taiwan, north korea and south korea. it was telling to see the north korean leader go meet with the russian leader this past week. and to pledge to support his effort in ukraine. that is concerning to us since we have a mutual defense agreement with south korea. we have troops in south korea. i don't think it is a far stretch to believe that what happens in ukraine is going to spillover with china and taiwan, southeast asia, north korea and south korea.
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i want to be strong on defense and pushback against the russians. but cash is a no go. military equipment and training, definitely. i am a no on troops as well. there are ways to support ukraine and their efforts but we have to do it in a way that also recognizes we are not dealing with our domestic issues the way we need to. need to deal with them as well. host: you may have seen the story yesterday about the ukrainian president, volodymyr zelenskyy has fired a top couple of defense ministers with concerns over how corruption and that money was being spent. tell us about your concerns over how u.s. funds are being used in ukraine. guest: that is one exhibit. this is not the first time that zelenskyy has gotten rid of somebody corrupt at the higher levels. but unfortunately it is a common
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practice in eastern europe and has been for decades. when it comes to payoffs and cash going to hands to influence decisions. quite frankly, i am concerned about what we are finding out in our hunter biden investigation and what kind of cash was exchanged with respect to the biden family in ukraine. that complicates our issues as well. there is a doctrine in the law that as a business lawyer for 20 years, i understood the doctrine of unclean hands. when you start to press an issue and somebody says you've got clean hands -- unclean hands, and comp case the issue you want to press. when we are talking about additional cash flowing to ukraine and we see the evidence of it in the past decade having flowed to the biden family as a result of hunter biden's position, that means we are dealing with unclean hands with respect to cash. we potentially have some
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corruption issues we are trying to ferret out in our investigation in the judiciary, ways and means, oversight. but that is why we don't want to just send cash. it can end up in a bank account easy, but there are only a couple of things you can do with a bomb or plane and that is engage in war. host: momentarily, we will get your calls. democrats (202) 748-8000, republicans (202) 748-8001 and independents and others, (202) 748-8002. a headline from your recent interview, congressman moran supports the impeachment inquiry. are you concerned that this gets in the way of the other work you are trying to do in the house? guest: it is unfortunate we have to take the step and it is very solemn. i hope folks understand this is not politically driven. and it should not be.
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what we don't want to get into over the years is a political back-and-forth of impeaching the other president or high officers. we want to look at the legal standards set by the constitution. where it says those officers, the vice president, the president and other civil officers who engage in bribery, treason or other high crimes and misdemeanors shall be impeached. when we have evidence that would suggest problems believe that certainly bribery may have taken place, we have a duty. it does not say they may be impeached, not if they politically suit you. it is they shall be impeached. that is what the constitution says. i may or may not like the political ends, but we should disregard that and say what does the constitution say? what is our duty to the country based on the evidence that has been produced and should we move forward? this is not an impeachment itself.
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in my opinion, this is analogous to a grand jury, where you are looking to see whether or not an indictment or articles of impeachment should actually be produced. if so, move forward with those. there is a long process to go. we need to follow the evidence, the prudent and reasonable, and we need to say to ourselves, if the same rules were applied in the same decisions were applied, would we be ok with that? host: let's get to some calls. first, alex and washington, d.c. on the democrats line. good morning. caller: good morning, i appreciate you being here. i also appreciate hearing that you support the war in ukraine. that is good to hear. i don't know that everybody in your party does. that was encouraging. the thing you said about how your main purpose in congress is to reduce the influence of government, i appreciate that, and i wonder how you feel about
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some of the people -- the majority of people in ukraine and the platform of restricting rights to abortion, parents ability to make health care decisions for their child when it comes to trans rates. that seems like an overreach of government in terms of telling people how to make decisions about their own lives and bodies that has no effect on anybody else it is not hurting anyone. i have always been confused about that part of your party's platform. if you could clarify i appreciate it. host dashing like guest -- guest: first, one of the issues is that it doesn't hurt anyone else. i would take issue. we talk about terminating the life of an unborn child, i believe that does her life. i believe that life begins at conception. if i hold to that belief, pre-birth life is of equal and eternal value, the same as life
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after birth. our constitution, the goal of it is what? life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. we are dealing with life in particular, we are defending the essence of the constitution by saying we believe that every life created by god, every life deserves to be born and fulfill their calling in life. i think every life is special. when i talk to kids back home, school age kids, one thing i tried to emphasize, i don't think they hear it enough, they were created for a purpose in this life. and it is a great and unique purpose, one that others are not created for. we need to help them fulfill that purpose by providing that opportunity to be born and thrive. one thing i think the republican party does not do a good enough job of is providing hope. hope for mothers and children and infants in particular, when you are in a situation, what a
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mother is in a situation where she feels there is no hope and she has to turn to an abortion decision, i think republicans need to do a better job of providing hope. truly, that is my ethic. reaching out and providing hope to others. pointing them to what has given me hope in my life. and hopefully they can fulfill again they internal calling in this life. but life begins at conception and if you take that view, which i believe, you have to hold to the position that we need to preserve that life and allow it to be born and live its life fully. host: larry from eugene, oregon. independent line. welcome. caller: thank you. i can't be the only one that sees the insanity of provoking more war in ukraine by escalating with more and more weapons. the russians will have to
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respond in kind. your gut knows that. this is just escalation, or and simple. or people will die for nothing. we will have trouble at home, economic problems exacerbated by this war. why it we continue to perpetuate that? we are working on containment of china, provoking china over taiwan. there is no end to this except more serious war. we're talking about nuclear powers here. does your guest understand that we need to stop this and start working on peace and cooperation? thank you. guest: i am so glad you asked. yes, peace and prosperity and stability is the end goal. the way we achieve that in my opinion is to follow the example of what ronald reagan said. ima reagan republican, i believe in peace through strength.
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being strong economically on the world stage, from a foreign policy stand point on the world stage and militarily, the way we stop china from being aggressive toward taiwan is we show strength in partnership with ukraine in this war against russia. we pushed back in such a way that china thinks twice about going after taiwan. this is increase against taiwan. it does not prepare against military conflict. those that would have strategic objectives that are different than ours would think twice about moving against our partners. that includes taiwan, south korea. i don't support -- but i have a degree in russia. i studied in russia for a while
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at texas tech. i understand their culture and history, what propels them, and what pushes them back is strength, not weakness. when we show weakness is when we push forward. host: you member of the judiciary committee and tomorrow you will hear from merrick garland. what do you think you will ask him? guest: let's start with what i will ask him. i want to talk about leslie wolf and her role, and my curiosity about the investigation into hunter biden and his tax issues, and why they made certain decisions that seem contrary to typical procedure of how a criminal investigation should proceed. let me give you examples. leslie wolf called off a search warrant for hunter biden's guesthouse. later, they advised against doing the search warrant of this
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storage unit and gave the team a heads up on when that was going to happen. in a criminal investigation, you don't give a heads up to somebody that you are going to search a storage unit that may contain evidence that incremented that person. and then say we are going to wait a few days and we may execute this warrant. of course it is going to get cleared out and you're not going to find the evidence you were looking for. we would not do that with any other criminal investigation, why in this case? and why was she one of the lead negotiators on the sweetheart deal that hunter biden got that fell apart? it seems odd. when you look at the dust general garlands determination through his oversight in his department and you say it looks like we've got a two tiered system of justice, truly when you look back at some of the reports about the investigations toward former president trump
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and the biden family, they are very disparate in the way those investigations were conducted sounds aggressive toward former president trump and passive investigations toward the biden family. it is a two-tiered system of justice and we need to get at the heart of that. why are we not equally and fairly applying the law? that's what most americans want. they see that the evidence comes out. we are all moved by applicable isis from time to time but we need to see objectively, is this the same application of the law on both sides of the fence. now it is not. host: reminder to our audience, coverage about tomorrow, 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span three. it will also be live on our mobile app, c-span now, and at c-span.org. for calls for congressman moran,
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on the democrat line, hello. caller: thank you for your call, god bless you and your family. let's not talk about a two-tiered government system. iran, north korea, china and russia all do business with each other. we're talking about corruption from any side. what are your thoughts on the discussion of that word, not captioned or documented, that donald trump had with putin. do you believe if he becomes the front runner for the republican party, you said you're a reagan republican and he is not. do you see that as a security issue? we know if russia does take over ukraine that the major cause on the world stage, i know borders are an issue, but there are countries and states trying to
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destabilize the united states as a world power, which will cause a greater impact. i'm wondering what your thoughts are on that meeting and if trump is nominated, whether he should be president. guest: a lot of and that right there. when we talk about security risk to the united states, this unholy alliance forming between russia and north korea, iran and china, we see it economically and on the diplomacy front. we see it on the military front as well. economically it is one of the things where we need to push back. when we talk about conversations with putin and trump, the involvement with putin, it makes me want to go back and talk about the durham report. this was concerning to us. another thing we are going to bring up tomorrow with merrick garland i'm sure, this is an example where the department of justice when so full throttle
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against trump in a way that was baseless. and they knew it from the outset. but they did not want to disclose it. years later we are finding that information out, that the investigation was pushed in a politically motivated way and it was not based on a legal fact-finding mission. they were going to create facts to suit their ends and that is why we see the steel dossier getting so much play early on. everybody knew it was false. so i am suspect about some of those reports. but when we talk about our real enemies in this world, i think we need to look at strategically, china. they are trying to box us in economically and use the belt and wrote initiative -- belt and wrote initiative to plan in africa and south america, engage
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in military contracts with those regions to get countries to reshape their foreign policy because now they are economically captive to china. china wants to undo the dollar from being the basis by which countries engage in trade. and they want to use the yuan. if china is successful in placing that you -- that with the american dollar, we are in trouble. and that plays back to ukraine russia conflict. it can provide additional support for china, russia and iran, north korea and their cabal to push back against the united states and we cannot allow that. host: your career has included time as a judge in texas. there is empathy for the cases
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running against former president trump. guest: you need to dispassionately abide the law, take your political biases out, and say if this set of facts -- would i play it fairly and equally? that should always be a decision. in america today, we think short term. we need to think long term and see things from an objective view rather than a subjective one. we are going to get to a better end. these objectives are a tight spot. i hope that they will dispassionately and reasonably apply the law in a fair and equal manner. host: chris on the republican line in florida. good morning. caller: good morning and thank
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you. the mainstream media talking points every day is there is no evidence linking the president to bribery schemes or business dealings. that is fine. but the recent revelation by the national archives says 5400 emails, which have now been released i hope to the committee, where president biden issues multiple students -- pseudonyms. effect is not spark curiosity on the part of all of us, i don't think even c-span has cover that fact. but what is the motivation for someone using pseudonyms multiple times? that is what this inquiry is about, unraveling the facts. i hope youi hope you can speak . guest: that is the reason for the inquiry. once the inquiry is established, it gives us a little deeper
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authority to do fact-finding missions to, get to some evidence we may not have been able to get to without the formal inquiry, into this is very concerning. there are red flags all over the place. why would a sitting vice president use pseudonyms? why would there be emails? an email i looked at this weekend that said " 10% goes to the big guy." know who the big guy -- we know who the big guy is, and that 10% is concerning to me. when we dig deeper, we will find more evidence of the connection. $24 million went to the biden family through more than a dozen of these shell entities that were set up during that time period. those are concerning.
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when people say there is not enough evidence to move forward, with an impeachment inquiry yes there is. the evidence i looked at is perfectly sufficient to substantiate moving forward with an inquiry. we should not reach an inclusion now about impeachment. we should be reasonable and prudent in our actions. thankfully, the last nine months we have had committees to have brought hearings to the table. there is more evidence to come. once we get as much evidence as possible we can decide whether to move forward. host: congressman, we will have to have you back on another day. thank you, congressman daniel moran.
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of interest. host: open forum here on washington journal, your chance to weigh in on issues you are following. the lines are (202) 748-8000 four democrats-- (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. and (202) 748-8002 for independents and all others. "he filed a lawsuit on irs for failing to protect the confidentiality of his tax documents. hunter biden's lawyer is seeking all documents and then award for each disclosure. hunter biden was indicted on three criminal counts related to
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the ownership of a gun. he would have been spared prison time -- the agreement collapsed under scrutiny by a federal judge during a dramatic court hearing in july. the lawsuit filed in the district of columbia, singles out very shapely -- gary shapely and joseph ziegler. they were engaging in a campaign to publicly smear mr. biden by disclosing his information. washington times.com to hear more. let's hear from did net -- caller: first, good morning, and i would like to say hey, it is great that hunter biden is suing
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back. what they have done to that man is ridiculous. just because he is the president's son, no one else would be in jail for that. 5 years they investigated the guy, and that is all they found. it is nothing. president biden is the most honest man i have ever seen in government. donald trump, while he was president, he told the american people over 30,000 lies. can you imagine? every time his mouth opens. joe biden told 2 or 3 things that were untrue. the moment he found out he said something untrue, he came out there and told us the truth.
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i don't care how old he is. i will go for a president who tells the truth and is not a friend with putin and xi. host: on to bob in slightest, california. caller: i wanted to make a comment about putin and the war in ukraine. putin is a reincarnation of headwear. i would gladly volunteer -- reincarnation of hitler. i would gladly volunteer to take a trip to ukraine and put -- russia and put a bullet in his head. host: it is open forum. (202) 748-8000 is the line for democrats. lauren boebert dropped from youth event flyers after theater
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fondling. texas youth at a conference for young conservatives appear to drop lauren boebert from their flyers after backlash from her behavior. boebert who has painted herself as an advocate of family values was removed from a theater for fondling the man she attended the show with. critics argue that the behavior was not appropriate for a sitting member of congress, and reflects hypocrisy. amid the criticism over her actions, the texas youth summit has appeared to backtrack over using boebert's image. some video from the theater, i
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should say, in colorado. colorado springs is next. caller: good morning. just a quick thing about boebert, she is an embarrassment to this state, but this is in regards to the representative from texas you just had on. i love his passion about finding corruption. with the bidens if there is any, but i wish his same passion would look into kushner's dealings with saudi arabia. maybe you should look into that too. host: on to calling from sheboygan, wisconsin -- on to gordon calling from sheboygan, wisconsin. caller: your first caller there, all you is talk about trump
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when all this corruption has been revealed in the biden family, i don't know why anyone doesn't want to get to the bottom of it. why wouldn't you want to know about that? it seems like everybody who calls up, all they can do is talk about trump and trump's kids or son-in-law. it is like an ostrich with their head in the sand. that is all i ever hear from the democrats when they call up is trump hatred syndrome. host: (202) 748-8000 the line for democrats. (202) 748-8001 the republican line. and for independents and others, (202) 748-8002. we will dive deeper into the latest on the uaw strike later this morning.
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"trump to address detroit auto workers instead of attending republican debate. he plans to give a speech to autoworkers on the date of the second republican presidential primary debate. the republican front-runner skip the first debate in late august, choosing instead to tape an interview with former fox news host tucker carlsen, which aired at the same time as the debate. while other candidates take part in the event, trump plans to speak to pipefitters and members from the united auto workers union. the trump advisor added that it is unclear whether the former president will visit the strike line."
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next is tony calling from salem, west virginia. caller: yes. i want to talk about what one of the previous callers called in about, about biden and his son, about biden always telling the truth. it has come to the point now where they are being investigated for racketeering, taking money from foreign governments. what is wrong with people? why can't they see what is going on? host: all right, tony. pennsylvania next, james on the republican line. caller: how is it going? it gets me how the democrats when they were doing the impeachment on trump, they were going with second and third tier
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whistleblowers, but now -- you there? host: james, are you still there? caller: are you there? go ahead. -- host: go ahead. caller: the democrats embraced those whistleblowers, but now when they have two whistleblowers going against them, they demonize them. as far as biden, all you have to do is go back and see all the plagiarism he has done. host: this is from the wall street journal. the marine corps finds wreckage of missing jet. did the marine corps said it had located the wreckage of a fighter that disappeared after its pilot ejected in south carolina. civilian and military agencies have been searching for the plane around 2 lakes in south
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carolina. the marines announced a two day pause and flying across the service to assess its safety practices. the f35 incident is the third two happened this week. the search for the f35 attracted large attention after the base made a post on x asking the public you to call if they saw anything. "darlene is on the line from gold hill, oregon. caller: i would like to make a comment in regard to the investigation into biden's son and mr. trump. he was investigated and he has
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been indicted. they do investigate biden and his son, but because of that you need to be able to prove he has taken any money. there has not been any proof to that effect, so they cannot even charge him, unless they have some kind of proof to back it up. in mr. trump's case, they are charging him because they do have proof to back it up. if you want a president who has been indicted and will possibly be charged -- convicted on those charges, vote for mr. trump. host: jesse is on the republican line. caller: good morning, sir. i wanted to bring up something because i am teaching u.s. government right now. host: what great is that? caller: 11th grade, 12th grade. you know, i am teaching from
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this great textbook, and i was just teaching my students about public opinion and interest groups and parties and candidates, and there was one part the political debate -- about political debates. i talked about how important it is for politicians to participate in these debates. i think it is un-american and un-republican or undemocratic for former president mr. trump to not want to to in these debates. if you are a candidate and you are popular, you should want to participate in these debates because it will gain even more popularity for you. it seems antithetical to what i
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am teaching and completely un-american, on republican, and i -- un-republican, and i think mr. trump is one of the worst presidents we have ever had. i am afraid the the republicans will get together and vote for somebody like nikki haley. host: what to some of your students say about the fact that it appears donald trump is not taking on other candidates, but he is still leading the pack in the republican field? caller: i was teaching about propaganda techniques. unfortunately, they use polls as propaganda. i question the legitimacy, the methodology of those surveys and polls that are showing him in the lead. there was someone on c-span recently.
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only 30% of republicans actually say they are big time pro-trumpers, if you break that down that is only like 10% of the population of america actually. i just really don't think he is worth his weight much anymore. i just came from the cold war era and reagan-based thoughts on our relationships with adversarial countries like russia and china, and i think he is absolutely pathetic in terms of his foreign relations. i just really hope that republicans can put together the real votes. it is just like the polls showed in 2016 that hillary was in the lead, and donald trump ended up beating her. i hope people see past these
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fake polls -- as donald trump calls it, fake news. he is a master of propaganda. host: jesse, on to ed indicator, georgia -- ed i diecatur, georgia. caller: i am so stressed out. the trump lawyer is so proud of being a georgian and apparent, but he never answered the question -- and a parent, but he never answered the question of how he felt that the former president went one-on-one with putin and there were no witnesses or notetakers. if i have the floor, i i'm going to mention that yesterday, the anniversary of this outrage of
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that man getting murdered by the religion police. c-span, you permitted that congresswoman from colorado to be talked about. that was an outrage to me. there was something else -- host: ed, i don't want you to get all upset. we did talk about the amini anniversary. we spent 45 minutes talking about it. i was not in yesterday, but we did talk about it yesterday. we also talked about it saturday. caller: it is an outrage the things you do. jamaal khashoggi rolls over in his grave every time you talk about what a pretty day it is. the world is going up in flames all over the world. give me a break. host: all right, ed. we will hear from herbert on the
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democrats' line. caller: my comment is on your last guest of their. like most republicans he seems to have his head in the sand. he is talking about inflation and the cost of spending. why aren't we blaming trump? he spent more money in 2020 then biden did. he scented to every large company in this country. he sent it to every -- he sent it to every large company in this country. inflation was caused by trump's tariffs. that is exactly what caused this inflation. the man is promising to do more of the same. people, get your head out of the sand. you will not need to worry about gas prices, if he gets back in there.
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you will not have a car to put it in. you won't even have a driveway to park it in! that is all i have to say. think about it, people. host: on to fay calling from north carolina on the republican line. caller: i'm voting for trump, and half a million people or one million voted for trump because joe biden has brought this country down. host: this is from politico this morning. bill mayo postpones -- bill maher has delayed returning to his hbo talk show during the ongoing strike by writers and actors, a decision that follows similar pauses over the weekend by the drew barrymore show. he said he would bring his show back into production, but on
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sunday he said he would wait because talks are scheduled to start on wednesday. "my decision to return to work was made when it seemed nothing was happening>" now both sides have -- was happening. now that the sides have agreed to go back to the negotiation table, we will await and see if they get anything done." barry moore says she will wait until the issues are resolved. we here from louisiana next, democrats' line. caller: trump is going to be the president anyway, because when he had an interview with that young man before he became president, he asked that young man, "why don't i feel on her
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breasts and her clothes?" and he did just that. they fire that young man. she gave him a blowjob -- host: onto latanya. caller: good morning. i'm calling because the republicans decides trump running up the budget before he left office -- besides trump running up the budget before he left office, he also let them cut their taxes. he just gave us regular people a short tax. the billionaires are not paying their taxes. that is where a lot of the money is going.
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host: this is a lead story in the new york times this morning. the u.s. national debt tops $33 trillion for the first time. it writes that america's gross national debt exceeded $33 trillion for the first time on monday providing evidence of the nation's shaky physical trajectory. the treasury department noted the milestone and its daily report detailing the nation's balance sheet. it comes as the government appears to fumble. the united states will face its first government shutdown since 2019." on the line from glen oak, maryland is sharon, democratic caller. caller: i was calling -- i had
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called before. all of this stuff that is going on with donald trump -- donald trump needs to be tried and prosecuted and go to jail or wherever he needs to go, because he is putting a stain on this country. he already put a stain on the office of the president. he is the worst president we have had in history, and our country is not thinking about children who are going to be the next generation. how can this next generation learn from these people they have got in office now? these people who are wicked and evil and just want to do bad things, they don't want to do the right thing. you can tell they are not christians and not of god, because th all they want to do are bad things. i want my grandchildren to come
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up in a country. we will have our problems, but they straighten things out. where are the mighty men of valor? where are the people who will stand up for our democracy? god bless this country. god is our democracy. god is our liberty. god is our freedom. host: steve is next in caller: thank you for taking michael. -- my cold. i have been tainted to hear people call in sharing evidence that is not true and not being fact checked and not having a moderator to question what they are saying. i think it is a disservice to people who listen and people who believe this it only spews more
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hatred and more division in the country. if you protect somebody's opinion been no that it is not right, then you are accepting what they say. what is your opinion? host: i appreciate you calling in with your opinion. it is impossible to fact checked everybody's opinion it would slow down the program considerably to do that but this program is all about not fact checking views but opinions from america. from callers. that is the basis of the program since it started. your view is important and we appreciate it and welcome it. rob in georgia on the independent line. good morning. caller: good morning.
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i have a couple quick things i want to cover on both sides of the election issue. it deals with what the gentleman in pennsylvania said about fact checking. a listen to a good deal of msnbc that one of the things they keep asserting is that, i'm not a trump:, but they keep asserting that he stole nuclear secrets. i did not see evidence that he stole that. they keep asserting that and i personally think they need to keep them toned down. also, there was a gentleman on yesterday for instance that was saying that trump has done a lot
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of wrong, i do not want to see him become president again, do not get me wrong but there's a gentleman on yesterday asserting that january 6 was not an insurrection of overtaking the government, the fact is they wanted to reinstall mr. trump illegally as president. when he became president, his intention was to convert the government over for him to become president for life. and if that is not making a precursor for a revolution, i don't know what that is. host: we appreciate your call. more calls will be coming up in open form later as well. it is washington journal. more on the program we will be joined by congressman glenn ivy of maryland talking about the
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school i had a couple jobs but i came to capitol hill to work for john conyers in 1987. of had a lot of jobs my mom say i cannot keep a job but i later came back and worked for senator don riegel and went home -- it was the democratic leader i worked for him as well. the doj and other private sector jobs as well. i decided i wanted to run for office this is my second run for congress i am glad to be here. host: what is your main focus for your constituents? guest: we have two things we are focusing on.
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one, bringing services and opportunities to the district. fbi headquarters is competing aggressively. we also have nasa, university of maryland, and we have a strong research triangle we can build on. in basic services for our community. the path forward to help get social security benefits and the like. republicans controlled the majority so we are not moving major legislation. it's been dealing with impeachment efforts and homeland security. we are focused on that we have a challenges of government shutdown as well. those are main priorities. host: let's talk about the
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shutdown. the house freedom caucus coming out with their plan and pushback with the rest of the republican conference. what is the democratic strategy when it comes to this bill? guest: rick trying to see how republicans work this out. one called it a civil war in the republican party and there is truth to that. we are likely to have a good deal come out of the student -- said it -- senate with republicans. we are hoping to avert a shutdown. host: are there things they propose that you could see supporting? guest: i think the short-term
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delay pushing it back for a period so they can get support with what they are doing but frankly the republicans have put a lot of add-ons to the bill that made it a problem that's why there's trouble moving it forward. and the freedom caucus is making demands about the deal going below the plans we made -- we -- they are all over the place and i think they have to come together to reach an agreement. i think we can get resolved relatively quickly. host: we are speaking with glenn ivy. we welcome your calls. democrats (202) 748-8000, republicans (202) 748-8001, independents (202) 748-8002.
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you are in congress and the last government shut down in 2019. what will shutdown mean to your constituents? how are they preparing for that? guest: great question. i've been through several of these. what it means is a lot of government employees might not get a paycheck when they are supposed to get it. some may have trouble paying rent or buying food. they may get reimbursed later, but it does not solve a short-term problem. you have contractors that may or may not get reimbursed even though they've already done some of the work they should get paid for. and you have people that get their social security benefit or veteran benefit and usually they try to make a way to make sure they still get their benefit but it still causes a lot of concern for people in that position. and there is an impact on the
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image of the united states. wall street basically said the government is so dysfunctional we think it does not deserve a top rating anymore. this is insult to injury. there's another rating that shows they cannot run the government because it is dysfunctional. it makes everything more expensive for all of us here. host: you mentioned the building of the new fbi corridors -- headquarters, and the government gsa announced that they came to a couple finalists including a rebuild in your district, tell us why this is an important issue and what it would mean for a district like yours to have fbi headquarters they are? guest: a couple things. we have two sites that were deemed appropriate, one in
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virginia. we are approved and they could begin construction almost immediately. they would not have to pay anything to get the property or get started. i think the -- it is between 1 billion and $1.5 billion to build a site. for the federal government a billion dollars is real money so we hope that will be a factor. we want the fbi headquarters in prince georges county because there's already many people who work there and live nearby. it would make it easier for them. it would be a good thing to add in the district and the messaging of it is good as well. potentially having a good impact on our economy and there is more jobs in the construction of building and campus.
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it is a good point for us to have as many installations as we can. it balances things out. prince georges county is trying to catch up on that front so it will be a big cap in the right direction. host: let's get to the calls. we have the first caller from north carolina. republican line. caller: good morning. i was wondering with the bill that is going through, the deadline coming up, i do not see why the democrats are so against border security. can you with a straight face tell your representatives in your area or the people in your area you represent that the democrat party is for the open borders and these people are coming in getting free health care, they are getting schooling for their kids and they do not
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even speak english. the teachers have to go out of their way to cater to them. and poor white people, poor black people, americans are getting kicked to the curve -- to the curb where joe biden can bring in many illegal immigrants. especially from these countries like sudan and haiti, they have wars over there, there is no government over there and name over here. host: let's get a response. guest: certainly i support the efforts to move this in the right direction, for example increasing the number of order patrol agents. if we shut down the government one of the concerns i have is that border security agents may not get paid on time. one of the issues we have seen is there is low morale among border patrol agents. i think this would be a bit -- a bad impact on that front. let's make sure we keep them
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working and on the border doing their jobs. it would be good to increase the number of border patrol agents. we offer amendments to try to do that. for mental health issues also to support them on that front. we worked on increasing the number of drones and tools for border security. when i went down to look and saw the wall that was there some of it has been constructed already but other giant openings for the road people can drive trucks through. most people are coming through in the contraband that is coming is coming through the major point -- port of entry. i think it is 92%. the big issue is the divide between republicans and democrats. for the large party does the construction of the wall. i think the bill republicans passed calls for 900 more miles of order wall. i think the calculation of that is like $5 million per mile.
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it will take a while to get it built up. the money would be better use for increasing the number of personnel we have on the border and increasing the tools we can use to test these people who are in contraband -- these people with contraband that are coming across especially in the port of entry where it comes through. and we also need to work with mexico and china. one of the things we heard in our testimony was the precursors that are used to make fictional large -- fentanyl largely come from china. to having stronger relationships with china to produce the contraband because they make the methanol -- and what has made the cartel strong in mexico are the assault weapons they have been getting from the united states. they are very aggressive as to how many of those go. i've seen numbers like 600,000 per year. but the months they used to get
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to control the crimes and the shipping of individuals and contraband to the united states, that is the gun that the united states is sending to these to elicit these transactions. i think there's a lot of ways we can move forward jointly. one other quick point, southwestern border is a problem for sure, but we have businesses meeting with venture capital a while ago and they said we've got businesses that he is moving to canada because you can get engineers with science and stem backgrounds and you can go to canada and get it taken care of where he does not have to wait in line because of the broken immigration system that the united states has. there's a lot of common ground to get things done. in the house, -- the republicans
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had an agenda to move through. we can make steps to help address the problem and have a positive impact down there. host: this is bill from alabama, independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. i have a quest or -- couple questions for senator iv. if he would take the time for me to ask them, please. host: sure, go ahead. caller: ok, first question. why do you not focus on the judiciary hearing that you are a member of instead of yeah king it --yucking it up with your congress members with -- of missouri who spent almost a quarter of a million dollars on her personal gratuity while
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colleagues are defunding the police? and my second question [indiscernible] guest: i don't know what you're talking about yucking it up with cori bush. she sits next to me but i do not remember joking or laughing with her during a hearing. if i might finish with the larger point about the hearings is that frankly i think they are off-track. we have lots of things that judiciary committees should look at to make a difference in our communities. they really have not touched it. host: go ahead and make your second question make it quick we have other people waiting to talk to congressman ivey. caller: please try to focus on the subject of the hearing instead of bringing up trump every other word that comes out
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of your mouth. something about trump. trump is not president right now. host: alright you do have a hearing coming up tomorrow with the attorney general, what do you ask to hear from him? what do you hope to ask the attorney general about? guest: there's a couple ways it could go. take the google antitrust case for example that would be the first major case happening on this front in a generation. i'm on the antitrust subcommittee and we have anything -- have not had any meeting with regard to google or the other major platforms. i think as we have heard in previous hearings we will hear about the effort to attack whether it is in this instance attorney general trying to link things to their impeachment inquiry investigation which i think as i mentioned earlier i think it will be a dead end.
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i do not think there's evidence at length -- that links president biden to anything approaching high crimes or any kind of misconduct. i think there will be an effort to try to do that. but the judiciary committee and chairman jordan have been doing subpoena documents and interviews with people at the department of justice in effort to try to build out this case. it has not come together. i think we will hear about that from the republicaside. host: and we will cover that here on c-span three. you can follow on c-span.org and our mobile app c-span now tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. eastern. and we have the next caller from rockville, maryland. good morning. caller: hello i admire you tremendously. but in asset you are to the state of maryland. i want to know how in gods name you can sit on the judicial committee listening to the craft
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that comes out of jim jordan's mouth and the rest of them. all they do is project, project, project. they will go down fighting for a crook named donald j. trump. it is disgraceful and i think the democrats should get up and walk out. same for the oversight committee and every committee. the trump, i called them the trump trash party, the republicans are so out of order it is pitiful. i admire you and i admire your democratic colleagues for everything you all do. it is a disgrace what all is going on. guest: thank you for your kind comments. it is important for us to make sure that we are there to push back on the misinformation that is being pushed frequently by chairman jordan and other republicans on the judiciary committee. at this point, anything related
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to impeachment would have to come through the judiciary committee. it is a tremendous abuse, one of the key powers of the constitution gives to house of representatives with the power of the cars they know -- i think they are stuck on this track making sure we defend the constitution and that we keep them honest with respect to what facts are out there. there is nothing implicating president biden on things right now. host: question from jimbo in california an independent voter who text us. he said will congressman ivy work -- guest: they will have to sort
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out what they do with respect to that, the republicans i do not know the democrats will get in the middle of that. certainly not at this range. we will have to see how it plays out. with respect to freedom caucus, some of them are on my committees and i've worked with some in some instances. even discussions about legislation, there are ways to find common ground to get things done. they've got an agenda right now that is focused on shutting down the government and moving forward with impeachment proceeding. i do not agree with that but we've got to find a way to get back to keeping the government open. i think that is the top of the list right now. host: there's been several rulings onto affirmative action right now. and it was up ended in the wake of the affirmative action ruling the provision of a program meant to help minority businesses with a ruling that could help other
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programs that benefit underrepresented groups. what is your view on that? guest: you may be referencing the federal case in tennessee. we are monitoring, we do not have -- know how far the court will go, but they will appeal the ruling. rightly so. i think it is important we keep these programs in place so everybody has a chance to compete for these federal contracts. it is especially important right now we start to move back away from sending everything overseas to get done. we see the problems with supply chains. we see problems with china providing types of manufacturing items that we know can cause certain security issues. it is right for us to move back to make sure we are building up businesses here in the united states and that is one of the key functions once the program is done. i think we have to keep it in
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place at the federal level. we will have state variations that we have to fight for as well. host: on to odessa, texas stand on the democrat line. caller: yeah thank you for taking my call. i have a couple questions. one that has been on my mind, what is the law regarding -- gun states and can -- some states and can other states reject immigrants. what do you know about that? and also do you agree with this job that -- all the stuff that jim jordan is putting on. just stay with it and walk out if you need to. -- that's all i got. thank you. guest: will taxes and florida
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worshiping people out of texas without their permission -- were shipping people out of texas without their permission without them knowing they are going. the problem is like they were kidnapping them and taking them out of state. and the other states did not know that they would arrive so there was a problem setting up and taking care of the arrangement when they made sure that when they got their things were in place to make sure they were taken care of and integrated in the communities. so i believe their challenges on that front, at the end of the day we have to do to steps, one make sure that where people are, they are taken care of. there are efforts by new york to get conversation for the fed government to help with that. i agree and think the fed should help them differ or defray the cost and the other piece is securing the border. we talked about that as well. the key point here is that
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people have a right to asylum. we have a law in the united states that says when people come here we cannot send them back willy-nilly we have to make sure there is a finding by a court that they do not have an assignment that is -- asylum that is illegitimate. expanding the courts that hear the cases would be a huge step in the right direction and that is something that democrats supported when the immigration vote came through. and the security bill came through a little while ago. we will keep working hard on that front and make sure we are doing everything we can. thank you for your comments about the work on the judiciary committee. host: when you participate in the meeting this week? what is the top of the agenda? guest: you have a series of programs and each member in the caucus has a topic of concern to them. the one that i will do on friday is along the lines of what you talked about her we have sba, in
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and talk to people about what is going on with the court. what changes has been made as far as conserving programs and helping people get into the program or stay in the program. there are other agencies that support that and people from the private sector. but there is a whole range of issues across the board that congress will present. people have the right to come in. people have tickets and then they come in and participate with them. they are called: -- brain trust meeting. it is a huge event. the weekend, i look forward to it it will be my 35th or 40th of these and i enjoy them every time around. host: we have damien on the republican line. caller: good morning. do you think jim jordan is a joke? do you believe in defunding the police?
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that is what the department of cori bush said, defund the police. that is now why we have a mass crime problem because the democrats hate the police. we please comment on that? thank you. guest: interesting point because right now the republicans are calling for the defunding of the fbi, atf, and the department of justice. including jim jordan. in some instances. with the argument that i make back i say who will prosecute the cartels and the organized crime in the united states? you are from laurel. you lived in my district and you still do. one of the things i did was partner with the local department of justice for prosecution against gangs. from my perspective, i have never supported defunding the police. it is shocking to me that
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republicans are taking that position. marjorie taylor greene is selling t-shirts about defunding the fbi. they are treating it like it is a joke, but it is serious business for people who think it is important to fight crime and have a strong partnership between local and federal government. host: congressman glenn ivey of maryland's fourth district. thanks for being here. guest: thanks for having me. host: next, we will be joined by nathan bomey. he will have an update on the united auto workers strike, now heading into its fifth day. ♪ >> nonfiction book lovers, c-span has podcasts for you.
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>> washington journal continues. host: nathan bomey is with us. he is this this reporter and axios co-authored. he is here with us to talk about the united auto workers to strike, entering day 5. welcome. as the strike continues in detroit, when is the latest on negotiations? guest: they are still far apart. the uaw last night threatened to expand the strike friday if they do not make serious progressfordgeneral motors, and stellantis. district started friday. the uaw is asking for a wage increase of 36%.automakers is only offered about 21%. the uaw once traditional pensions, retiree health air and a host of other thing.
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the automakers are not really willing to budge. it feels like we could be headed toward an expansion of the strike later this week. host: we say expansion of the strike, this is been termed a standup strike. tell us how this strike is different from others. guest: the best way to think of it is as a targeted strike. they have selected one plant in each automaker to strike. this is unusual for multiple reasons. for starters, the uaw has historically selected one automaker to strike. in train 19, they decided to strike at gm. they reached a deal there and use that to bargain with the other automakers. in this case, they decided to strike all three but only pick one plant to start. the president of the uaw has said that if negotiations
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continue to not reach the progress he believes is necessary, they will expand the strike to other plants, possibly all the factories in the u.s. run by uaw workers. host: what should we know about sean fain? how long has he been uaw president? guest: he was only elected as president earlier this year. he is trying to make his mark. he understands that workers have been looking for progress on compensation benefits for years and the uaw has gone through a very difficult period. they have struggled with corruption, federal charges. the last couple of uaw presidents are in prison because of accusations against the union. he is trying to regain the moral authority that the union lost
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over the last couple of years and show his numbers he is fighting for them. that is the context. what he is doing is putting the focus on the automakers and saying they have had progress over the last several years and they can afford to deliver some of that back to workers. host: give us an idea of the potential economic impact of a strike, if indeed it is expanded and more plants are added the three currently on strike. guest: right now it is somewhat limited because it is just the three. it will affect the ford bronco and the jeep by the acre -- gladiator. these are important to the automakers but not making all their money. if the uaw were to strike out more critical plants, like the river rouge plant in michigan where ford makes the ford f1 50.
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that is the most profitable vehicle that if they were to hit that plant, you would see an escalation in tension. they get to all plants, this could have a devastating effect on the midwest, likely a recession, possibly triggering substantial damage to the economy. we are not there yet, but it is a threat the uaw has made. host: nathan bomey has been covering the uaw strike. would love to hear from you. lines are (202) 748-8000 for democrats. republicans, use (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. uaw members, (202) 748-8003. nathan bomey, you have a piece in axios recently about how ev worries our helping to fuel the
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strike. tell us about the role of battery manufacturers and the consideration of what the uaw is asking for. guest: the transition to electric vehicles is a centerpiece of this debate. electric vehicles do not require as many workers to make as your traditional gas engine car. that means the uaw is concerned about the transition. if zero workers are required to build ev's, that could mean fewer numbers of the uaw. if expressed concern about subsidies for the ev's in the handling of the transition by the automakers. they are in favor of the transition but they want it to be equitable end by unionized workers. the problem with the automakers is that all other ev's made by other companies are made by nonunion workers. that includes tesla.
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tessa already has a significant weight advantage on gm, ford, and stilettos. the only question is how much wider is that gap owing to be after negotiations? host: is the uaw hoping to make inroads into those battery plants, say in states that have right to work laws, like georgia or kentucky, where those battery plants are opening up, big battery plants? guest: i think they have a dream of doing that someday. they've not had much success in the south. look at the volkswagen plant in tennessee and the nissan plant. they failed to organize those plans over the years. i think they have a better shot of going after tesla. the plant in california used to be organized when it was agm and toyota plant, before tesla acquires it. there is a history of
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unionization at that country. the may w went after tesla several years ago and failed to and i sat plant. but now tesla has become a more mature company. could the uaw go after tesla? as possible, but right now they are focused on getting a deal at the detroit three. host: (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8001,. independents tent others, (202) 748-8002. uaw members, (202) 748-8003. i wanted to play the cummins on friday from joe biden. i do not think we have heard from him on the strike since then, but these were his initial comments as a straight got underway. we will hear your response after we hear from president biden. pres. biden: after negotiations broke down, the uaw announced the strike. let's be clear.
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no one wants a strike, but i respected were kirks' right -- workers' rights to use their options under collective bargaining and i respected their frustration. they do so much to keep the industry alive. workers deserve a fair share of the benefits they create for an enterprise. i do appreciate that the parties have been working around the clock. when i first called them on the first day of negotiations, i said, stay at the table as long as you cap. try to work this out. the companies have made some significant offers, but i believe this should go further. record corporate profits should mean racket -- back hurt contracts -- should mean record contacts. record corporate contracts that profits should be shared by record contacts. we need labor agreements for the future. it is my hope that the parties
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can return to the negotiation table. host: the president at the end in favor of a better deal for uaw workers. guest: those were fascinating remarks. he told the line. the is in a difficult position. on the one side, he has the progressive left that once more electric the occult. on the other side, he has belabored left wanting better compensation. these are both priorities for him. i think thisdiffult position for him to be in. he is prounion. he wants record contacts. there is not much risk of that not happening. these will be record contracts in all likelihood. there is one phrase in that speech that stood out to me. he says the companies have made "significant offers."
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not long after that speech, they said the white house is afraid. not sure what that means, but the uaw is not really embracing joe biden's role in this process. they continued to say they are fighting for their workers and will stand up to anybody in their way. host: he says nobody wants a strike but now they have got one. this administration have any ongoing connection with the uaw or the automakers as negotiations? guest: the president dispatched his labor secretary and economic advisor. they are on the ground but not brokering the talks. they are observers. the president said they are there, able to provide help if needed. i do not think that will plate much of a role in the outcome. i think that the president wants
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to get the uaw's endorsement but surprisingly the uaw has withheld that endorsement. this is historically something that a democrat president could assume was coming. that is not the case anymore. you need to look at what has happened to the uaw and the way membership has changed in recent years. in 2016 and 2020, about one third of uaw members voted for donald trump. this is that an organization that is going to endorse president trump. that will not happen. they issued a statement bashing president trump. but this is the union that is starting to question where is loyalties lie. host: let's go to our line for union members. bill is retired, calling from delaware. caller: let me tell you something. they are going to go too far. when time, we -- at one time, we
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had almost one million workers. we are down to 145,000. keep asking for raises. he will put yourselves out of work. that is just the way it is going to be. host: how long did you work as a uaw member? caller: 30 years. we had two plants in delaware. joe biden anchs coons did not do nothing. they did not help. do not believe joe biden about being prounion. guest: interesting point. uaw compensation by all accounts did contribute to the bankruptcies of gm and chrysler in 2008 and 2009. that is well-established. the uaw made concessions and gave back some benefits.
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i think in the tents and sent, lightly w compensation has been affordable and has contributed to automakers' contracts. but the caller's concern is appropriate. if you talk -- if composition is way out of whack, that would be bad for the future jobs. but the only question is where is the middle ground? how much is too much? we will see whether the automakers and uaw and reach that middle ground. host: let's hear from gabe from michigan, independent line. caller: this is been going on for years, who is getting more? if they just created a tier, is the top-down, whatever the highest level gets, that percentage is balanced out with the union members. what are union members get in
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terms of compensation and retirement plans and so forth, a percentage of that can only be equal for the ceos. it is a balance. you want more, the other side gets more if there is a problem with the cars that goes against union moneys. if there is a crappy design and people do not buy it, that goes against the ceo. they each share of problems, each share benefits. they could be done with this once and for all gate is stable balance between the two. -- create a stable balance between the two. the only people who suffer are the workers. in the time they struck, it was always in profitable time spent annexing you know, we are close to bankruptcy. my dad was close to struggling all the time. whenever the overtime was about to be there, that is when they
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struck guest: it is interesting. over time, the uaw's deals have changed to include a percentage of the profit. since bankruptcies in 2009, uaw members get profit sharing caps at ford, stellantis, and gm. those are a percentage of the north american profits for the automakers, which happens to be where they make most of their money. what you have seen at gm and ford is profit sharing checks to the order of $7,000 to $10,000 at the end of the year. that is a nice boost for union members. it reflects is the company does well, then they do well. but when the uaw wants instead it -- is that ceos are making
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too much. their bonuses and pay have outstripped that of the average worker. host: our retired uaw worker from delaware said membership would been up to one million. he thinks it is 145,000 today. how have automation and the line itself changed over the years? guest: it is dramatically more automated. when i was a reporter in michigan, the plant in the ypsilanti area had 14,000 workers in the 1970's. when it closed in 2009, i think it had 1000 or 2000 people. that gives you a sense of automation and decline of sales. automation has been a big factor. to st. louis, john is on the democrat line. caller: two thoughts -- one is
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where is the profit sharing? you would think it would have happened at the same time with the managers' bonuses. number two, donald trump is talking to the uaw on the 27th. it's trumpet extending the strike -- is trump extending the strike or looking for a win where he talks to them and they get profit sharing and the strike is over? host: john is referring to reports this morning that former president trump will be heading to detroit to speak to union workers on september 27. nathan bomey, your follow-up? guest: i do not think president trump has information and status on the talks. they could reach a deal before he comes, but i would despise at this point.
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but what i think -- would be surprised at this point. but what i think present have is trying to do is connect with workers who voted for him. about one third of uaw members voted for donald trump in 2016 and 2020. he has a good base of support there, but he is anti-uaw leadership. they are anti-him. no love lost there, when he is trying to circumvent leadership of the uaw and go directly to the workers. he has bashed president biden's ev agenda. he will thoroughly workers and that that agenda is hurting their jobs. that is up for debate but that will be the message. host: that seems to be an unusual first. some states are benefiting from that ev agenda. even several red states have battery plants being built. guest: absolutely. and there is a lot of battery and ev manufacturing in the
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midwest. but i think the uaw is concerned about the advent of these joint venture operations between a battery company and in automaker, where they may not be unionized. for example, in ohio, gm has a factory that uaw wants to unionize, but the point is that ev jobs for the future will be different in some respect. uaw wants to make sure that those folks are in the fall. host: let's hear from mark in maryland, independent line. caller: morning. a couple of comments about the prior bankruptcies of the automakers -- in the 2000 and teens in the 1990's, there were rich medical benefits that were not managed that well from a
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cost-containment perspective. there were independent studies in the 1990's that forecast the bankruptcies because of overly extravagant medical coverage, no deductibles, no co-pays and improper alignments. composition might have been reasonable but the rest of the benefits were pretty high. they were fine but not managed well. when you combine that was product quality, product reliability issues, it is tough to deal with those factors when you've got the financial crisis and that environment. today, with ev's, they have the opportunity to lead in the 1990's. and of course, those ev audits
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for the big three, in particular gm, were killed. it is not labor's fault. that is an executive management problem and an execution problem. better management all around is needed, combined with more consistent products quality that is leading edge, not following edge. host: thanks, mark. guest: vehicle quality has improved dramatically since the bankruptcies. you are right at the automakers really fell down on the job in the lead up to those bankruptcies in the fact that people did not want to buy those vehicles. they did not necessarily have the kinds of vehicles people wanted, but as it relates to the automakers and who deserves blame for the financial crisis, the great auto journalist once said that the uaw and the
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automakers were sort of co-conspirators, co-complacent in the sense that they were arguing and better with each other at the same time. they did not see toyota coming down the road and that it was going to be a threat. they both deserve some blame for the crash of the companies. i got the bailout in 2009 and the companies are in better shape now. the question is how do you surely well? host: tim from california is a retired postal worker. caller: first, i support the uaw workers 100%. in 2008 and 2009, i do not thin there was an industry or a human t not of the great economic f reside in the postal service --
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we saw it in the postal service. every time a company makes record profits, usually it is because unions have three or four tears of workers. it is one of the biggest complaints that the uaw is talking about we see it in the postal service and unions like the uaw. those tears make it hard to work alongside coworkers that have a decent retirement, decent health plan. that is one of the biggest things they are fighting for. when the union in 2008 and 2009 give up sunlight, and the workers took it, and we the companies out. but when profits are 365% more than the median wage, we as workers are standing up. if it is not uaw, tesla will
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become union. if starbucks and other places are fighting for a union so will they. i hope they win and i pray that our government stays out of it. they have their own election time. none of them are honestly thinking about the workers. we workers have to stand together and think about ourselves. we will win should be our same. host: nathan bomey? guest: it is interesting. i think the uaw is primarily focused on past products the automakers have made. automakers are focused on future profits. that is where the tension is. the uaw says you made profits. pass that on. the automakers are concerned that going forward they will not be that profitable because they will not be able to pay for labor costs and because electric
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vehicles are coming in the need to make those at a race people can afford. right now, most electric vehicles are not afforded. that is the tension. the question is will they be able to keep up with tesla? tesla is the leader in the clubhouse. they have got a major cost advantage right now. will the uaw be able to succeed in getting in there? it is possible but it will take years. host: steve wants you to explain tier pay. guest: automakers after the two thousand nine bankruptcies implemented a plan partially negotiated by the obama administration, which have the auto task force essentially take over gm and chrysler. they implemented a tiered pay plan where workers were getting paid at a much lower level than longtime, establish workers.
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that is shrunk a bit over the years but continues. the uaw wants to illuminate that. unionized workers, they feel like we are all in solidarity and should be on the same pay scale. i think that is likely to go away, because it is going to be harder and harder for automakers to justify that, since bankruptcies are becoming more of a distant memory. host: one more observation, we touched on this, that joan in milwaukee says my father was a uaw worker. while he was grateful for the good wages and benefits, and benefits, nothing upset my parents more than the rate of the union, which ultimately destroy the industry in the u.s., which cannot be against foreign automakers. guest: there is a lot of internal bitterness against the uaw, in part because of the corruption over the last years the corruption got so bad that the federal government appointed
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someone to oversee the union. that is in place today. there is some bitterness there and that is partially why shawn fain has been so aggressive about trying to recapture the moral authority that the uaw lost in recent years. he is now saying i will stick up for the average worker and we will clean house. host: you can follow nathan bomey on social media and at axios.com. thanks for being with us. the u.s. house coming in at 10:00 eastern. until and, we open up phone lines in another round of open forum for news interviews. (202) 748-8000 is the line for democrats. (202) 748-8001, the republican line. independents and others, (202) 748-8002. ♪
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trump's record and rhetoric undermining unions, many autoworkers are not convinced that the current oval office is more forcefully on their site. "i i cannot tell when he speaks to the public if he is being told what to say or if he is generally -- genuinely saying it." jennifer banks, a train i'm here for employee was picketing saturday in michigan. a sign warned absolutely no foreign vehicles the ambivalence for mr. biden underscore an ongoing challenge to his reelection, as democrats try to stop bleeding of blue-collar support after three years of inflation and high interest rates. also from the new york times this morning, this is on canadian prime minister justin trudeau and his announcement yesterday, accusations against
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the country of india. trudeau says indian government felt sikh leader. he said that agent of the government of india carried at the assassination of a sikh leader in british columbia in june. speaking in the house of commons, mr. trudeau said he had raised india's involvement in the shooting at the group of 20 summit earlier this month in "no uncertain terms: he bases this on intelligence gathered by the canadian government. he says that the killing of a canadian citizen on canadian soil is unacceptable. he said canada would pressure india to cooperate with the investigation into the killing
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of the man who advocated for sikh separatism. the in the endeavor cannick -- indian diplomatic mission in ottawa did not respond to requests for comment. frank in pennsylvania, democrats' line. caller: this unit, i got a nice raise in my social security. my rent went out the exact amount of my race. i just want to bring up the corporate greed. host: that must be frustrating, frank. when you see money go up and social security and your rent is raised. caller: food prices and gas prices, everything are up.
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you get a bit of a raise and they take it for your rent. host: we will go to paul in rochester, new hampshire. go ahead. caller: i worked for general electric for 40 years. in the time that i worked there, the union tried to get into the plant. they never even got to the point where they had a vote. the reason was that the plant manager and the people who ran the company with 2300 40's in the location -- employees in the location were treated like family. one thing that occurred was whenever the union and the other plants got an offer, we got it immediately when the offer was made. when the union voted, we also got those benefits, it never needed a union.
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in 40 years and nine months, the union never got in there. if you are treated fairly by management, you do not need unions. and you do not have to pay union dues. just thought i would mention that. that is critical anytime you operate a facility where you have a plot of people working. -- a lot of people working. host: he said he worked for 40 years? did you come away from that with a pension? caller: yes. i have been retired for a good number of years. i am 88. i have been carried since i was 59. -- been retired since i was 59. they treated all of us as family.
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we had meters for all the homes at the time. host: terry in kentucky is next, independent line. caller: i am just thinking if countries and industries were smaller, the caller's would work better. we are so into corporate greed now. as the unions are out and trying to work these issues out, the corporation itself is probably in there researching how they can do with fewer workers. just a report this morning that japan is now setting up an assembly line, whereas once a car gets to a certain level, the car will go through the line and build itself. in other words, it gets to a
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certain point and it is automated so it can pick up what needs to be put in. if this continues, what will happen to our workers? host: where did you read that story about japan? caller: it was on the nk news this morning on pbs. host: we could find that and share that with yours. las vegas is next, greg. hello. caller: the other day, you had a show about schools and libraries. they also said during that show that 76% percent of books that are banned end up his goals. i do not understand how that is
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possible. host: i cannot answer that. glad you're tuned into that segment. some of our live coverage coming up, the u.s. house at 10:00 a.m. eastern. other programs to the fort this morning at 10:00, fema officials testifying on u.s. disaster response and recovery. that is live at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span three streams live c-span.org and on the mobile app. coming up at 3:00 p.m., a hearing looking at the january 6 capital security failures. they form are capitol police chief will be testifying. that is the victory of 5:00 p.m. easter egg. -- eastern. mentioned early, attorney general merrick garland
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testifies tomorrow morning at 10 of 5 a.m. eastern lives on c-span three on c-span now and live at c-span.org. and we will be covering speeches from the united nations getting underway for the annual gathering in new york today. president biden will be speaking later today. looking for unity over crises is the headline abc.com. the 140 or so world leaders gathering in new york have a lot on their plate with russia and ukraine, a global cost-of-living prices, a worsening climate emergency, and the disruption of new technologies. there are disagreements internationally, not only over what is most important, but also with the remedy should be. people are looking to leaders for a way out of this mess. and -- the u.n. secretary
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general says our capacity to understand is that respond is being undermined. president biden said to speak there today. zelenskyy speaking there tomorrow. look for a number of the speeches later on c-span networks. host: cincinnati, independent line. caller: the one-man that said he worked for general electric all of those years and they did not need a union because every time some company from a union got a raise, they got a same thing and they do not need a union, did he stop to think is union workers there are trying to get in there because the other companies got a raise and he would not not in one -- but you need a union to
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do this. i was a union member for a lot of years. i retired in 2000. i have been getting $1200 a week because i was in a union. unions are useful for the average working person looking to live beyond the job. if you cannot afford to pay union dues to have better living wages, then you should go crawl in a hole and hide because they are very, very necessary. for 23 years, i have been getting $1200 a week in retirement because of being in a you. -- in a union. if you -- if you do not want
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retirement benefits, then a union is not for you. but if you want to live beyond your job, a union is necessary. thank you. host: wallace, edison, new jersey, democrats' line. caller: a few comments about these sanctions against russia. that will not work. putin is crafty. this i am sure he would hurt him if it was implemented. just totally isolate him. -- there able be reduced by -- their aid will be reduced by 25%.
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i you. appreciate it. host: house coming in in 15 minutes. this is from roll call, the headline this morning, house stock out bill alters with no senate backup plan insight. even if kevin mccarthy is able to scrounge up the votes to pass a measure this week, it would take a now cold to avoid a partial shutdown next month. democrats controlling the senate have no interest in the 30 day continuing resolutions unveiled sunday night. it would impose a range of border related restrictions. president biden has already threatened to veto it, but the senate is tied in knots over appropriations with the fiscal 2024 spending package stymied by procedural objections.
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that chamber is considering and i'm usual move which could take up much of this week. it would suspended the role to short-circuit the objection from ron johnson and others, which would ultimately look are 67 votes. if that mood is successful, the satin -- senate -- but that does not resolve the immediate hurdle of avoiding a government shutdown. next is linda calling from iowa. caller: if there is a shutdown, it will be a schumer shutdown. all summer long, schumer has to make the time when they can vote. he just took time off and wants to shut it down everybody's throat. they are not having it no more. they want to vote. that is how it is supposed to work. if you looked at the floor the
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other day, susan collins is a nervous person anyways, but that murray was standing there like a hawk. other democrats were there. she was intimidated by them. that has to stop. the republicans are known as going on. i am all for this country getting turned around. if we want to save america, save the taxpayers money, we have to vote on each boat. -- vote. that is how it is supposed to be done. host: senator schumer spoke about passing a short-term funding measure. here he is yesterday. senator schumer: instead of working with democrats to keep governor -- government open, house republicans want to cut spending by a devastating 8%.
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8% cuts to law enforcement, cancer research and other critical priorities. not one penny is dedicated to the disaster relief requests, despite anguished in so many states. now hope extenders are included, no reauthorization of the faa. and with no ukraine funding, the proposal is an insult to ukraine and a gift to putin. i cannot think of a worse welcome for zelenskyy who a test this week in this house proposal. last night's proposals can be boiled down to two worth -- slapdash and reckless. slapdash because it is not a serious proposal for avoiding a shutdown. reckless because it would cause immense harm to so many priorities that help the american people. this freedom caucus wishlist is
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not a serious proposal for avoiding a government shutdown. if passed, it would never have enough votes to make it through the senate. host: just under 10 minutes left in open forum. (202) 748-8000, the line for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. for independents, (202) 748-8002 . bob is calling from san diego, democrats align. caller: 150% for the uaw workers. i hope they get what they ask for. i am a retired grocery workers. 31 years, starting when i was in my 20's. i'm retaining -- i retired at the age of 55.
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i was a full-time worker as well and retirementmy is pretty much nothing but i am still making it. these companies are so greedy. right now, kroger wants to buy albertsons. they came up with $44 billion to make that purchase but they cannot find my retirement. my retirement is critical. it has been three years. it is their way of being able in the future to take another 25% away. as for the tiered system, the people in the lower tier, their retirement is nothing. i am comparing that to mine, which is barely enough. i hope they get what they ask for and then some. there make the correction on
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both sides, but the unionism is that your benefit in mind. they are not for the companies. therefore the workers and so in spite of. -- and so is biden. rmp -- trump will try to say that he negotiated it, that he was the one responsible, but he does not have any insight into what is going on. nobody does. only the people at the table know what they are after. that is all i have to say. host: maurice in portage, michigan. hello there. maurice on the independent line. caller: good morning. i have been listening to c-span ever since i retired.
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it is always entertaining but not enlightening. we are watching various members of both parties, all of them demonstrating their ability to lie. senator schumer does a very good job of always doing something that brings down the so-called we must cooperate crap. you cannot cooperate with buyers. there are liars on both sides. i have never seen government so inept. this is a sad event. host: next is jimmy in whitefield, maine, democrats' line.
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caller: hey. i am 82. today is particularly relevant that we do not want a war with iran or china or russia or north korea or working at faso or uganda -- or burkina faso or uganda or mexico or syria or yemen either. it is my fondest wish that we would stop acting like we do. host: the president is sent to speak of the u.n. today. this is from the washington post with the headline item faces a textile at the u.n. on extending
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global support for ukraine president biden has a clear agenda for this week. maintain robust global support for ukraine but executing on that will be difficult, particularly this year. ukrainian officials had hoped to ride into new york this week touting major gains, but russia's entrenched forces have stymied efforts to achieve a major breakthrough both sides continue to sustain heavy casualties. the conflict's toll on food and energy prices has accelerated calls for a negotiated settlement. supported when american public has been slipping. but biden, was due to address the assembly tuesday, will be aided by zelenskyy, who will also visit new york to raise
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awareness about russian atrocities and emphasize how the invasion violates the united nations's most sacred principle, the sovereignty of borders. next, we go to auburn, washington. scott is on the republican line. caller: we are talking about ukraine. i can see what putin's idea is. this is all about the trade industry, the trade industry -- ukraine has a simple route for exporting goods and services.
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what is happening here is putin wants that particular trade route, which, does he deserve it? that is how ukraine is getting rich, through the trade route. putin sees that. while his father that -- he saw that and he once had an open route for his people, his russian people. it is the same thing that is going on with the corporations and the union, ukraine was getting super rich because they have the open trade route.
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the water route as their export. they were winning and getting rich. what happened is putin saw the trade -- and this is always about trade. that is how humans operate is trade routes. same with china. this is how -- when china is just -- host: one more quick note -- we started the program talking about the release of americans from iran. the headline from the associated press is americans released from iran are arrive home tivoli
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embrace loved ones and declare freedom. the video from earlier this morning and suspect americans were released and greeted by their family. that is it from washington journal this morning. we are back tomorrow morning at 7:00 eastern. we hope you are as well. the u.s. has gaveling in momentarily. live coverage next here on c-span. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]

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