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guest: there is the unlocking of a pentagon appropriations bill, some holdouts have relented letting them move forward, and then we have the continuing resolution deal. if we talk about the pentagon appropriations bill, hard-line conservatives voted against a procedural vote to advance this appropriations bill essentially over demands for deeper spending, plus, they wanted to know the top line figures for the fall appropriations bill. and because the house was not moving ahead swiftly with considering all 12 of these bills. but just yesterday after that closed door meeting -- which lasted over two hours, which is a long gathering -- two of those conservatives said they would relent on that hesitation.

they will allow the vote to go ahead and this is because of the commitments speaker mccarthy made in this continuing resolution plan. just a button up the situation, the house is scheduled to take up that rule today for the appropriations bill. it is expected to go through whether the legislation will have the votes. but the fact they will advance this piece of legislation is a win for kevin mccarthy. now you get to this proposal which would be a continuing resolution through october 31 with funding back to fiscal year 2022 levels. that is something conservatives had been asking for. it would give commitments that the 12 appropriations bills would be considered at $1.5 trillion and would include that commission on studying the federal debt and deficit. also, it includes parts of the

house gop's border bill, minus a controversial provision. emerging from this closed door meeting a number of republicans said they were supportive, including two holdouts that said they were against the initial resolution. that is ralph norman from south carolina and bob good. they said they would vote for this continuing resolution proposal, but kevin mccarthy is not out of the woods yet. there are three conservative republicans who emerged from that meeting saying they would not support this continuing resolution and we heard from congressman matt gaetz and tim burchett who said they know of seven lawmakers -- including them -- you will never vote for a continuing resolution. it was successful for him because he was able to unlock

that pentagon appropriations bill and flip some holdouts. but whether or not he is victorious, we have got to figure that out. host: how does the statement by the former president factor in? guest: it is not going to help. former president trump is a very popular figure within the republican party, especially the house gop conference. a number of republicans have endorsed him indictment after indictment after indictment. him asking that he wants funding measures to defund the department of justice, which is currently investigating him, is undoubtably going to place pressure on these conservative republicans. whether or not it will lead to their opposition, we will have to figure that out. that was a late night development last night.

but it is undoubtably going to be a question we ask today and the days to come. when you talk about the influence former president trump has on republicans in the house, it could affect funding talks. host: you heard, and our viewers heard, from chip roy and matt gaetz saying if the speaker were to move to put a so-called clean resolution on the floor that it would be a bad move and they would try to oust him from his position. where are democrats on passing a clean cr and if there is a vote to remove kevin mccarthy, with a vote in favor? guest: the first question is easy. house democrats want a clean resolution. they want to pass a continuing

resolution to fund the government for x amount of days. and they also want to tack on the $40 billion request the white house unveiled which includes money for ukraine and disaster relief. that is what democrats have wanted from the get-go. they are not going to get that because you have to compromise with republicans, but that is where democrats stand. your other question is fascinating and more difficult. if a vote on ousting kevin mccarthy were brought to the floor, how would democrats act? i published a piece on that this week. i asked house democrats how they would go forward. they said there is not a plan in place yet. top lawmakers brushed aside the question as premature, a hypothetical, saying they are focused on funding the government. of course, september 30 is approaching.

but after president biden and speaker mccarthy cut a deal to raise the debt limit, house democrats thought they would save kevin mccarthy. the speaker did well by them. they cut a deal with the president, something that received bipartisan support in the house, so they were feeling good. but then came the house led committees marking up the appropriations bill at lower caps, which soured democrats' thoughts. but kevin mccarthy opening an impeachment inquiry into president biden last week -- a number of democrats said after the debt limit they were thinking about considering saving him. now that is an open question. some of them did not want to do that. i spoke to eric swalwell who said he would oust mccarthy.

here is the wildcard. some democrats said they would potentially save mccarthy, but at a price. i spoke to congresswoman aoc and she said there would be a price to pay. could we see negotiation? it is a possibility. at the end of the day what democrats do is going to be significant. they are split on kevin mccarthy. some want to get rid of him but he has a lot of support among leadership and rank and file members. the one that can be a difference maker and determine his fate are democrats. they would likely vote during a block. they have enough votes to determine his fate. it is something worth keeping an eye on. host: mychael schnell, coming

up, we talk with matt rosendale. tell our viewers why they should listen to him. guest: he is one to watch in this fight. i was not able to catch up with them after yesterday but he says he is a no cr. he could be part of the seven matt gaetz talked about. he was also one of the house republicans during that drawnout speakers race in january that never supported kevin mccarthy. there is no love lost between them and it would not be surprising if rosendale does not cave to mccarthy and does not support the continuing resolution. each one of these lawmakers really matters at the end of the day because house republicans have a slim majority. they can only lose a handful of votes, but especially when you have one that is