brother of. . hamas they get perhaps 100% of their funding from iran. everybody knows that. what there is disagreement with is the degree to which the iranians are involved in operational planning. morality, that hardly matters at all. this was done consistent with iranian objectives. it was applauded by iran. weather elements of the revolutionary guard corps were involved in sparring -- in spying is a moral irrelevancy. we see in israel at >> good afternoon, from chillically. we are moments away from the house reconvening today. congressman steve scalise, according to capitol hill reporters, remain far short, far

short of the votes that he needs to become speaker. this is what we understand is happening. at 12 noon eastern time the house will gavel in and then quickly recess again. republicans will meet behind closed doors at 12:15 p.m. eastern time to continue talking about who should be their nominee for speaker. we want to get your reaction, your thoughts, on where things stand right now. republicans, 202-748-8921. democrats, 202-748-8920. all others 748-892t text us at 202-748-89303. include the first name, city, and date. post on x or facebook.com/c-span. we'll get to your thoughts here in just a minute.

according to capitol hill reports, steve scalise needs that magic number of 217. he does not have that right now as we approach noon eastern time here on the east coast. there are 10 republicans who have publicly stated they are not going to be voting for steve scalise for speaker. here they are, chip roy of texas. marjorie taylor greene of georgia. also ohio's max miller. south carolina's nancy mace. george santos, n york. lauren boebert of kro*. michael cloud of texas. carlos gimenez of florida. virginia's bob good. and pennsylvania's lloyd smucker. all saying publicly they are not going to be voting for him. reporters caught up with the former speaker, kevin mccarthy, entering the capitol today. he indicated that there are even more than those 10 who are not

behind steve scalise. take a look. >> trying to unify the party? >> it's not an easy task. you have to listen to people. you have to go through. but time is of the essence. there is not that much time left. >> do you think it's possible that he can get the votes? mr. mcka*rbty: possible. big hill. he told a lot of people he would be at 150. he wasn't there. >> kevin mccarthy, the former speaker earlier today on where things stand for steve scalise. joining us now on the phone is scott, nbc news. scott wong, what can you tell us from your reporting about where the vote stands for speaker? scott: good morning, greta. just an incredible moment in our american politics here. a moment of uncertainty. a moment of chaos on capitol

hill with no real speaker of the house. in fact, seeing those images of mccarthy, we, in fact, have three speakers of the house, patrick mchenry, serving as interim, speaker mccarthy, who still is speaking to reporters and acting like a speaker, with his security detail roaming the capitol. and of course the speaker nominee from the republican, steve scalise, who is still the majority leader, the number two republican at the moment. working to get to that magic number as you mentioned of 217. nbc's analysis has more than a dozen no votes for steve scalise to be speaker. that is a big problem for him because he can lose no more than four republicans given that they have such a narrow, narrow majority. and democrats will all rally

behind their leader, hakeem jeffries of new york. when you talk to some of these members who are in the no column, their reasons for objecting to scalise vary from person to person. marjorie taylor greene of georgia cites his health. if you remember he's battling and receiving treatment for multiple maya homa, which is a type of blood cancer. nancy mace of south carolina is objecting to steve scalise's speech back in 2002 to a white supremist group. the answers vary depending on who you ask. and that is why kevin mccarthy, to use his words, scalise has a big hill to climb in this battle for the speaker's gavel. >> why are republicans meeting behind closed doors at 12:15 today?

scott: they met behind closed doors yesterday to nominate a speaker. and that vote was very close. just 113-99. closer than perhaps many people anticipated. and jordan seemed to be in those recent days gaining more and more momentum on steve scalise but just couldn't quite get there to beat him in that internal election. this will be the first opportunity for republicans now to regroup to hear from steve scalise how he plans to overcome these enormous obstacles. not only is he facing these dozen plus no votes, but there are perhaps another dozen who are still undecided. others are pledging their support to jim jordan. and others are pledging their support for kevin mccarthy and say they will vote for mccarthy on the floor.

still smarting from last week events by matt gaetz and others to oust him from the speakership which has the republicans tearing each other apart at this moment. this will be an opportunity for republicans to hear directly from scalise how he plans to unite the conference and get everyone behind him and to get 217 votes. at the moment it doesn't appear that he is anywhere close to doing so. >> who is helping steve scalise get these votes? and who is not? notably who is not helping? scott: one person that we have to look toward is jim jordan. steve scalise's opponent in this speaker race, who, yesterday, told reporters that he is

encouraging his supporters to get behind steve scalise. that he, himself, will be supporting him. he even offered to give a nominating speech on the floor for steve scalise. that being said, he still has, jordan does, a number of supporters who want him to be speaker of the house. jim jordan, a very close donald trump ally, chairman of the powerful judiciary committee, former founding chairman of the very, very conservative house freedom caucus. somebody who has been around capitol hill for a number of years. and is a known quantity. notably both jordan and scalise got their start in leadership as chairmen of the conservative republican study committee, the largest caucus of conservatives

on capitol hill. they have that foundation at the r.s.c. i would point out, greta, there are a number of people in the capitol who have an incentive to see scalise rise to speaker of the house. there are a number of people who want to run for the majority leader position, tom emmer, the majority whip. byron donalds. a handful of others. kevin hern, the current chairman of the r.s.c. so they are looking for an opportunity to move up the leadership ladder. others want to run for majority whip, number three position. and so a handful of folks have a political incentive for scalise to rise so that they can then run for other positions and move up the leadership ladder. they will be part of that whip operation for steve scalise to get him to that magic number