jordan has received 199. honorable hakeem jeffries of the state of new york has received 212. the honorable kevin mccarthy of the state of california has received five. honorable tom emmer of the state of minnesota received one. lee zeldin of the state of new york has received three. honorable steve scalise has received seven. honorable mike garcia of state of california has received one. honorable miller of michigan received one. honorable john boehner of the state of ohio has received one.

the honorable kay graining aer of the state of texas has received one. the honorable bruce westerman of the state of arkansas. has received one. a speaker has not been elected. pursuant to clause 12-a of rule 1, the the chair declares the house in recess subject to the call of the chair.

>> what we'll see play out is anybody's guess. we have been talking with legislators throughout the course of this morning about the idea of expanding the current powers of the speaker pro tempore, patrick mchenry. debate going on between republicans and democrats over that with the democrat from maryland, steny hoyer, on the steps of the capitol talking about this idea. what he thinks of t here's a portion of that. mr. hoyer: we have to discuss what the terms of that are. but it was important for us to get the congress working on behalf of the american people. and the way we move forward is

in a bipartisan fashion. that's the way we are going to move forward. that's wait we'll get the congress working -- that's the way we'll get the congress working. the extreme element of the republican party has now shut down the congress for maybe three weeks since september 1. by not voting for rules. by not being able to elect a speaker. whatever the reasons are. that's not good for the american people. we have some real crises going on around the country. israel, we need to make sure we act on behalf of israel and its people. we need to make -- by wait, humanitarian aid for palestinians as well. we also need to act on ukraine. we need to act on the budget that's coming up, the c.r. that's coming up. and for a longer term. we have a lot to do in this country. we need to act on behalf of the disaster relief. continuing to refuse when you can't do anything yourself makes

no sense for america. reporter: do you want democratic leadership to tell the rest of the rank anne file -- and file to vote for mchenry? i think some are waiting for that. mr. hoyer: i think we feel that we ought to move forward in a bipartisan way. that's the way we can do it. reporter: have you had conversation was any republicans? >> maryland democrat steny hoyer outside the capitol building. he amongst others determining what will be the next step when it comes to the election of a speaker. you can comment on that. what played out today. can you also post on our social media site as well. hear from debbie in arkansas, republican line. you're first up. good afternoon, go ahead. caller: yes. i would ask all people of the 22 that didn't vote for jim jordan to campaign and get the rhinos

out of there -- rinos out of there. they are not doing what they are doing. our country is in trouble. we have still have no speaker. jim jordan was the best guy in congress that would fight for the american people. 22 holdouts, they don't care about the american people. they are not -- they are the american people voted jim jordan in there. >> ok. bloomberg posting when it comes to reporting on capitol hill, saying when it comes to representative jim jordan, the spokesperson says, he's not dropping out. his effort to become the house speaker. robert in florida, republican line. hello. caller: hello, this is rob. i'm a disabled veteran. i served in the 82 $airborne. i support america and i support

donald trump and i support jim jordan. and i support scalise for backing jim jordan. and i support even mccarthy for backing jim jordan. the other 22 whoever they are sitting on their hands putting our country in harm's way day in and day out need to do their job. they need to think for this country. what they are doing every day, tkwhraeug this vote -- delaying this sroefplt we are putting great men and women at risk across seas, on our border, across the world. host: democrats line. steven in connecticut, hello. caller: thanks for taking my call. i wanted to comment on jim jordan. i love hearing all these people saying he's a great guy. people love him. i think it's an international embarrassment that an election die nigher and insurrectionist like him is even in the house. during the time in the ohio state he tried to cover up the abuse of students under his care. don't take my word for that,

look it up. he failed kids really. he was responsible for. i don't see how he we can trust him to protect our constitution. host: stop you there. because there is a lot going on outside the house. including interview with texas representative chip roy. reporter: you said earlier you asked leadership to go ahead butt a resolution on the floor that said mchenry would be empowered. he wants to see where people ar- mr. roy: i think jim is calling the bluff of folks they are going to work out a deal with democrats. good luck selling that back home you are cut ago deal with the democrats. the fact is i do not favor moving to the floor on that procedure. never in the history of this institution, never, to the best of my knowledge, have we ever appointed a speaker pro tempore with the full powers of the speakership without having elect add duly elected speaker. we have not done that to the best of my knowledge. to do that would be playing games with such an important

position, third in line to the presidency. we should do our job as elected speaker. the constitution says that. any move to do otherwise is contrary to the constitution and would do enormous damage not just to the republican party but the house of representatives. i vie lently oppose any toefrt do that on the floor. reporter: do you think there lob the chair: without objection, so ordered a legal challenge. mr. roy: i think it is contrary to the constitution in terms of saying we shall choose a speaker and appoint somebody with the full powers of the speaker without having chosen the speaker makes no sense. i think we need to take a step back, do our job, and choose a speaker. reporter: congressman, how many rounds are you going -- mr. roy: however long it takes. reporter: do you think those opposing jordan -- mr. roy: this is something that every one of us has a vote. you have to answer to your constituents for your vote. if my colleague are comfortable with their vote. reporter: you wanted to hear the

members come out and said why. have you heard their concerns? mr. roy: i have had private conversation was my colleagues. many of them from friends. again they got to explain what the motivations are here. i think motivations of pass recriminations and issues looking backwards that doesn't sell well. the question is how we go forward. mr. jordan is receiving the best majority of the republican votes. basically around the same kevin was getting at the low point of his numbers. 199 compared to 200. reporter: what do you do with the hold outs? mr. roy: talk to them and move forward. reporter: the appropriators -- mr. roy: i'm not going to name my colleagues specifically. they each have their own vote. they have to explain it to their constituents. there is support to jim jordan in texas. i wouldn't want to be on the other side. it is not lost on me that appropriators and essentially

half the armed services committee with the most skeptical at the moment. when you are trying to change the status quo, stop spending money we don't have, engaging in endless conflict with the money we don't have, they fight back. host: texas representative chip roy outside of capitol hill. c-span cameras catching the action as legislators go out after the speaker vote. punch bowl news heather on her twitter feed, find it there, house majority leader jeffries and other top democrats are huddling in his office. we'll have a conversation amongst ourselves to figure out where we are at in terms after bipartisan path forward. when i asked about the speaker pro tempore resolution. drew is next in illinois, democrats line, hello. caller: hi. first of all thanks so much for taking my call and the whole c-span team for being great. loving the camera angles. i think it's funny chip roy would say that. he said something like oh, aim so surprised that -- never been

done before in history. well, wasn't he a part of that crew that took so long to elect mccarthy in the first place? i think it's just -- switch off from being sad and mad about what's going on. quite frankly it's embarrassing. the republicans can't even do the basic forms of governing. i'm also just relieved last caller was that jim jordan seemed seems to not be succeeding. he seems to be doing worse than everybody else. thank you so much for taking my call. host: independent line from north carolina, charles. caller: hello. how are you? host: well, go ahead. caller: you had a guest on this morning, mr. gimenez, representative, saying it was what congress wanted. we need to understand our congress are elected officials to go with the constituents not parties. so the thing right now is i believe congress is about voting

on party lines. it may not be something you don't like. it might have been somebody you voted for. it's the agenda trying to move the country forward, that's the direction we know. i hope we elect a speaker thinking in the same line. thank you for taking my call. host: florida, republican line. cindy next. cindy in florida, hello? one more time. aim sorry, kim. i apologize. my fault. caller: i knew i was from florida. i am disappointed with the republicans. with everything that's going on in the world today, they should be sticking together like the democrats. i feel that maybe we should have a vote and vote those 22 that aren't sticking with jim jordan and vote them out. maybe we should get them out. democrats stick together. why aren't the republicans

sticking together? and just vote him in and get the work done that has to be done in congress. host: that is kim there. my apologies for that. cindy in washington state, democrats line. caller: this is cindy. i'm from washington state. i'm calling to say i'm disappointed in our republicans. they laugh, they joke, they make fun in our house. they are disrespectful. i don't understand. they want somebody like jim jordan, who accepted an insurrection. they want somebody like that to lead our country. to lead our speakership. there is something wrong with the republicans. the 22, jim jordan want from 20 to 22 today of others. he doesn't need the job. we need to find out of all the republicans they have, 221, they

can't find a decent republican to work with the democrats and our house so we can get some legislative work done? there is something wrong. and these people keep voting these people in. they can't do anything. jim jordan hasn't ever written a piece of legislation. he's watched children get molested. he's not worth t host: byron donalds of florida outside of capitol hill now. mr. donalds: i fully expect we are going to it's going to be about what do we actually achieve with respect to government funding, securing the border, and the things that matter to the american people. that's what they'll remember. that's what they are going to judge be republican leadership on. reporter: how much longer should they have to wait? mr. donalds: vote again right now. listen.

again and again and again, that's me. talk with those members who are hold outs and see where they are. and he has to make a determination of what he wants to do next. honestly not sure. reporter: what do you think of congressman -- mr. donalds: i love him. i'm been nominated from the floor before. reporter: a loft these members complain about tactics from jim jordan. what's your response to that? do you think -- mr. donalds: it's not been helpful. i don't think it's been helpful for jim. i know in our country americans are really passionate. they want their voices to be heard. their voices should be heard. but some of the stuff isn't

going to move these members. it will only make them harder to convince. my tphepblg to people -- message to people on the outside groups who love this country, they are conservative groups, they are patriots at this point just let the members have this discussion amongst us. and the entire focus for jim and everybody else to make sure we are putting the best forward. reporter: what's your level of confidence of jim jordan getting there? mr. tkopbltsdz: my confidence is always high. my confidence is in him. that's where it's going to stay. reporter: do you think it was a teubgtical mistake to hold another vote? mr. donalds: you can't let it go too long without holding votes. obviously you know this, everybody talks to you on the side anyway. members will talk. see what happens. i think he had to come out today and then see where it is.

i think at this point like i said my recommendation is, either we go back -- at this point we probably go back to the floor and vote. give a couple hours to do this. allow jim to talk to these members. go from there. reporter: a conference meeting or do you think -- mr. donalds: i don't think we should have one yet. i don't think so. reporter: i know you -- now that you have seen what's transpired, not trying to -- in general, is it probably a mistake for the interconstitution, for your conference -- institution, for your conference? mr. donalds: the one thing that concerned me from the beginning, after kevin mccarthy was vacated was knowing there are some real

fractures in our conference. i still stand behind you got to make sure you have 217. he made a decision. host: that was representative byron donalds outside of capitol hill. where c-span cameras are hanging out. capturing legislators as they walk out talking about the events this morning into this afternoon and talk about next steps as well. on that front joining us mariana sotomayor of the "washington post" covers congress. we thank you for your time and joining us. >> happy to be here. host: stpaers the goins, i know it's -- as far as the goins response, i know it's just concluded, where are the various camps about next steps? guest: it sounds like republicans and democrats separately may be meeting in the

next couple of hours. talk about those next steps. they look very differently depending which party you ask. a number of republicans obviously are still against jordan. and it really looks difficult for him to be able to win over support given he only won over two of the 20 holdouts in 24 hours and lost four more republicans. a lot of republicans don't even want to meet in closed setting again because they know it's going to probably be nasty and airing of grievances and may not conclude in much. a lot of those holdouts are very much not going to vote for jordan. there are a number of them now talking to a couple of reporters since voting saying, look, jordan should get the message that there are significant amount of us who are voting against him and that number is only expected to grow the more votes that keep happening on the floor. you asked about democrats, they are trying and businessically --

basically keug significantalling we are opening with working with republicans to empower the speaker pro tempore, patrick mchenry, but it is complicated in the way to get that done. what i have been hearing there are more democrats than republicans at this point who would help move forward a resolution. and a number of republicans are still waiting to make sure a number of their own colleagues can get onboard so they can pass this with significant support to ensure that mchenry could actually get some leverage and be able to oversee and reopen the house and -- host: our viewers had heard from texas representative chip roy who was skeptical of the of poemering the speaker versus elech -- electing a speaker. guest: it is difficult to do. it's not impossible. you could pass a resolution to do this. it is constitutional. apparently it has happened over 100 years ago to give a

temporary speaker some more leverage to pass legislation. democrats and republicans would like to extend that power for mchenry until early january. but like you mentioned, many republicans are against this move. and as we have seen already this year, any time that democrats have helped mccarthy earlier this year, democrats helping republicans to pass anything at all, that received a lot of blowback from members of the freedom caucus like chip roy. even if mchenry were to do something like this, for example, he could possibly be voted out as speaker if they don't change the house rules. there is a lot of hypotheticals. a lot of unpredictability which is the world we continue to find ourselves in here on capitol hill. host: as far as mr. jordan himself, there was a tweet from one of the reports saying necessarily he hasn't given up the fight when it comes to becoming house speaker.

i don't know if you heard the same sentiment around capitol hill. guest: yes. jordan spokesman is informing reporters, what are the next steps? are we going forward? are republicans going to meet? his spokesman is telling us that jordan is going to keep going. no matter what. that has always been his personality. he never lets go of a fight. it really would take a lot. even the number, significant amount more of republicans voting against him on the floor to maybe get jordan to relent. as of right now that's his position. he's going to keep going. host: as far as the tone of when he goes to his fellow republicans on trying to get their support there, what's the reporting about a hardball tactic so to speak when it comes, is more of that expected? or is there a change in posture when it comes to the jordan team in order to get support? guest: a number of republicans who are somewhat opened to

voting for jordan are now publicly saying that pressure campaign really did not help them vote for jordan. if anything it made them more deeply entrenched in their belief they will never vote for him. it sounds like that continues to be part of the pressure campaign. and some of it is even happening organically as trump voters across the country are seeing that these republicans are voting against jordan. a number of republicans, just telling a couple of reporters, that a number of his own colleagues are putting out his office number, making it easier for -- that very strong maga base to call these republicans, the republican hold outs. again, that is not making it any easier for any of these republicans to flip. if anything, a number of colleagues, who are, you know, probably going to vote against jordan in more future rounds are hearing this and also very

concerned that this kind of pressure campaign is happening and do not think speaker jordan would be someone who would be helpful in this case because this is just a show of how jordan and his team would govern as speaker. that is really concerning to a number of republicans. host: ms. sotomayor, before we let you go, what is the likelihood the house reconvenes today at some point to take this next step? guest: that is the question of the hour. maybe for the next couple hours. it's very much unclear as we saw yesterday the house remained in recess and then jordan later in date decided he wasn't going to go to the floor again. as much as he and his team keep saying that's what they are going to do, we don't know. it's quite possible they come back to the floor today. or we could see a repeat of yesterday and be called for votes tomorrow morning. host: who reports for "the

washington post," find her work at "washington post".com thank you for your time. miguel in tampa bay, florida, independent line. thanks for waiting. go ahead. miguel in florida, hello? caller: can you hear me? host: you are on. go ahead. caller: yes. thank you for accepting my call. i just want to say jim jordan is not qualified to be house speaker. if you are not able to go for subpoena and abide by congressional subpoena, and you are not able to qualify nor being house speaker, i believe patrick mchenry should not be speaker pro tempore. i think that you should pick him as speaker. if it's not the solution five republicans join with democrats and make hakeem jeffries speaker. we have to get on to business in america. host: again, you heard from our guest we just spoke with about steve womack with the jordan

team saying that opposition is profound. noting that people who are against jordan do not want anything oppose him on principle. saying his tactics have backfired. again that's reporting. phyllis, republican line. caller: hello? host: you're on. caller: yes. i just wanted to point out that, yes, i support jim jordan. i think he should be speaker because that's what a lot of the people move on. but the other point i wanted to make is that if the democrats keep complaining that the republicans are messed up and can't get this through, they have the ability to help. they can take and vote jim jordan in. they can put some of their votes instead of dividing party line, they can vote, too. one of the things that i get upset about i'm always seeing the fingers pointed at the parties. these are people. people have differences of opinion.

and i do see that the democrats are really strong and they stay together. but that scares me. that tells me they are being told what to say. where as in -- whereas in our party we all have a voice and we all get to say. so we don't always agree. we usually go with what the majority agree to. so if the democrats really want to help end this, they can vote for jim jordan, too, just as well as we can. host: this is from tennessee, dave, hello. caller: thanks for taking my call. i just want to say jim jordan, no. he's just not acceptable. chip roy and donalds, they are among that crew that don't want any continuing resolutions. along with jordan. and if you ask me, we've got a government shutdown in spectacular fashion. that's what these guys wanted all along. now we have it. we are watching it unfold in

front of us. host: that's dave in tennessee. let's hear from florida republican, maria stkala czar, outside the capitol building. ms. salazar: where you from? >> i'm from the u.k. originally. >> i was ready. yes. [beep] ms. salazar: simple majority should be speaker. but people are breaking rules. i don't want to do that pwhaus that's the way the constitution

works. reporter: do you think mchenry would allow that? ms. salazar: i haven't asked him. i'll see what the next step. i still believe in the institution. still the best around. thank you. host: our c-span crew outside of capitol hill capturing legislators as they are leaving the building after this vote. richard in illinois, democrats line. caller: apologize for presenting fake evidence on the house floor. but remember on january 6 it was republicans that had to run and hide and be protected by the capitol police from their own constituents. and jim jordan helped plan that event. and worse, over on youtube you can watch family members of the wrestlers complaining that jim jordan called them graveling, begging, and crying to help save his career. there has never been a ethics

investigation for witness tampering, period. he is completely not fit for this office. host: when it comes to his position, daniellea diaz reporting when it comes to mr. jordan, he's telling reporters, quote, we got 200 votes. he picked up some today. a couple of them dropped off. they voted for me before. i think they'll come back again. we'll keep talking to members. keep working on it. again that's the latest coming after the vote today. let's go to daniellea with pwhreut could he. let's hear from liverpool, new york, republican line. viewer there. good morning. caller: thanks for taking my call. i'm happy that they took this vote to the floor. because it just exposes all these 2022rino's that no matter what they want, mccarthy or someone that's going to keep voting, or keep running things by these omnibus bills and c.r.'s which is the grift that

goes on in d.c. they plop these huge bills on the desk at the last minute. they hide these things in there. that's the biggest thing that gaetz wants. he wants single subject spending bills. so we can see what they are doing. someone called from connecticut and called people like me election deniers. he's an election fraud denier because if you saw what happened that night in 2020, you know what happened. and the democrats would not be sending lawyers everywhere to stop the audit. you would say look at these ballots. he's a legit president. they hide everything from us. and that's your answer as to what happened that night in 2020. biden did not get 81 million votes. host: "the washington post" poll reporting when it comes to the vote you just saw play out on capitol hill mr. jordan set a modern record. the lowest vote tally, majority nominee, to be speaker, 199 republicans voted for him on the second ballot. no majority nominee has received less than 200 votes in a long

time. adding mccarthy vote's tally was 200 a couple times back in january. tampa, florida, democrats line. angela, hello. caller: thanks for taking my call. first thing is i'm very glad to see jim jordan fail. the mashould not be speaker of the house. the man has no couth. l he has is try to bully people. to all you republicans out there that keep saying, wel democrats should help. democrats should help. wh every time the democrats help mccarthy, he threw them under the bus. you know what? you republicans are getting what you deserve. jim jordan, i think he's not the right man for the job. maybe scalise. or somebody else. but definitely not jim sexual crazed man jordan. host: press corps outside of capitol hill got a chance to hear from representative tim burchett of tennessee. about the efforts of today. the vote from today. here he is from earlier.

mr. burchett: it's just like 45 day c.r.. we start working on day 446789 and start working on the election of a new speaker -- everybody is talking about we have been without a speaker for 15 days or whatever. we were out for six weeks and didn't do a thing. reporter: would you recommend he go to another ballot? mr. burchett: i recommend we keep going until we get somebody. host: let's hear from our independent line. our line for others in lubbock, texas. this is mark. caller: thank you for taking my call. first of all for the people who are saying that i'm a former republican, independent now, about the election night, i guess they didn't understand how absentee voting works. but jim jordan has no interest

in serving the american people. he only serves donald trump. and as far as someone saying that the democrats should step forward and help, i think the republicans should step forward and put a man of integrity. i think jeffries is that man. that way we can get on with business. the republicans have sworn themselves to the maga party and donald trump. i don't think that's good for america. americans have spoken. that's why we voted him out of office. again, thank you for taking my call. bless you. host: republican line, lois is in staten island, new york. caller: yes. hello. first off everyone applauds the democrats for being lockstep. they have a hive mentality. second, they are like lemons also going over the cliff. while i'm not happy about the vote taking so long, do i support jim jordan -- i do support jim jordan over jeffries. jeffries is a communist.

now, look what the democrats have given us. two conflicts. inflation. high gas prices. host: when it comes to republicans on capitol hill, they can't center around a speaker. is the issue with them? caller: say that again? host: republicans on capitol hill can't stand around a speaker. do they have an issue? do you think that's a concern? caller: there is one word you are saying i'm missing. republicans on capitol hill. host: can't center around a speaker. do you think that's a concern? caller: yes. but it also shows that quite capable of independent thinking. now, i don't care if they elect satan, jeffries is a communist. and while they have very negative things to say about republican voters, for me i find tkhepls democrats high functioning morons. they can hold a job, but they can't think. host: ok. that's lois there in new york.

nbc's scott wong is saying that representative mike garcia proposing a republican retreat in gettysburg. republicans can sequester themselves away from the beltway, k street lobbyists, and reporters to figure out a way out of the speaker's mess. michigan, independent line. caller: hi. thank you for having me. first of all i want to correct a very common mistake. the speaker of the house is not third in line to the president. he's second in line to the president. which makes it very, very important position. and the other concern i have is that it's been shown that jim jordan not only forwarded false state electors nonsense, he's eroded our election process. making millions of americans question our legitimacy of our elections. and destroying the peaceful transfir of power -- transfer of

power for the first time in the history of this country. and if you don't see that as a problem, you better start seeing it as one because it erodes the very foundation of a democracy we love and choose to live in. host: also on our independent line from texas, we'll hear from harry. caller: it's gary. that's fine. i personally don't believe the 2020 or the 2022 elections in my area were not corrupt. i know a lot of meetings afterwards and we found all kinds of problems. but nothing changed. jordan at least wants -- he exposes corruption, but i don't know if it's -- he doesn't want to do anything about it or if his hands are tied. but the suggestion that the republicans go away on their own and make a decision, get in a

room and fight it out. i think that's a wonderful idea. if people would watch c-span in 2022, the state ledge swhrao*urs had hearings that exposed the election fraud. host: that was texas. outside of capitol hill reporters heard from florida democrat moskowitz on the events of today. >> that's a big moment for short people with mchenry. reporter will democrats some sort of legislation that we empower patrick mchenry as a temporary speaker? mr. moskowitz: democrats are committed to trying to get the house opened. yeah. if that resolution comes forward to open the house to give the pro tem temporary powers, i would support that. reporter: do you think there are a number of colleagues that feel the same way?

mr. moskowitz: i think a number of my colleagues see what's going on. jordan is going in the opposite direction. they are clearly broken. they have put the entire u.s. government in chaos. democrats are here willing to do what is needed to work with them to try to get it opened. reporter: have you gotten direction on democratic leadership how to vote? mr. moskowitz: no. there is no resolution. we have to see the resolution and read the details. generally conceptually i would support re-opening it and giving patrick mchenry powers to do so. reporter: would you need anything in return? mr. moskowitz: i think it would be to reopen for period of time. reporter: how long would you be comfortable with? mr. moskowitz: we have to get past the government closure date. it would have to be through thanksgiving. host: again that's jared moskowitz outside of capitol hill during that vote count. you heard a lot of different names other than jim jordan. amongst them steve scalise

gaining several votes. representative kay granger of texas posting on her x feed about why she did that saying steve scalise is honorable and earned my vote for speaker. this was a vote of conscience and i stayed true to my principles. intimidation and threats will not change my position. mike in knoxville, tennessee. democrats line. caller: thank you. i'm a 66-year-old social worker democrat. and listening to this for years. the problem is i hear a lot that the republicans who don't like jordan. the one thing all of us agree on is we got to move on. i'm also one that sort of thinks not a bad idea for the republicans to go off on their little retreat and hash it out.

but also like my friends friend from tennessee -- my friend from tennessee who called a few calls ago on the other line, i think my conspiracy theory its a way to shut down the government in a few weeks with all this going on. i don't know who you get, who is bipartisan enough to work on some sort of one of those old reagan-ites in way where everybody yells at each other during the day and hashed it out at night. host: got to. hear from bobby in texas, republican line. caller: hi. i'm glad you took my call. until the democrats took over the white house and the

legislation. all these people come in here. we have no idea where these people are from. we have a lot of ideas. host: how does that relate to the house speaker vote that took place today? caller: the house speaker vote is extremely important because jim jordan is the best man for the job. he's the one who is going to get to the bottom of this. he's the one who is going to help stop the influx coming over. they are going to push for that. they are not going to give the money to the democrats that they want. they are not going to gift money to the democrats that they want for ukraine, either. i don't think we should support ukraine anymore. it's a proxy war and we are not -- i want to stay out of it. host: ok. jason up next in california. democrats line. caller: thanks for taking my call. i just say as a democrat i find myself having to praise the 22

republicans that are acting like patriots to stop jim jordan, somebody who is not for the constitution and election denier from taking on this incredibly important role within our government. i hope this is an example of "profiles in courage" and they can figure out a way forward with the democrats. or within the republican caucus itself. to get a real speaker of the house. host: democrats, monica in tucson, arizona. caller: yes. hi. thanks for putting me on. quickly. i guess i'm just really amazed that people are not seeing what a crisis this is. the u.s. embassy in lebanon was just bombed. and we don't have a house speaker? to me that's a -- the time that they waste. it bothers me. they all sit there smiling and laughing. this is no laughing matter.

we are in many crises in this country and around the world. and we can't get a speaker. i used to be a republican. i'm just sick and what's happened to that party. aim now a democrat. and-tkeurpbl' now a democrat. hakeem jeffries would be a wonderful speaker. he keeps winning every time. why not do a bipartisan or at the very least get patrick mchenry pro tem, give him power. this is ridiculous. we are in crisis. we can't keep fooling around like this. host: phopb kwra*eubg there -- monica there. jo ann in vero beach, florida. republican line. caller: hi. this is joanne, can you hear me? i'm host: you're on, go ahead. caller: they took an oath to defend the constitution but to work the federal government as a

republic form of government. he's kept the republic and federal form of government when voting on legislation. that's what we need in there. with patrick mchenry, if you look at his record he's been there since 2005. he's a lifer. and he's been voting mostly on the democratic side of the party. we are not a democracy. wear republic. that's what's important to us. if we didn't have all these moderate republicans voting as democrats, we would have a strong republic. a free republic. and that's the problem here. and i also want to mention, when they said pressure campaign, that is a sure copout. because when constituents are calling you, it's not because the republicans up there are telling them to call you. it's the job we're supposed to do and reach out, not just to our representatives in our state, but we need to reach out to the representatives in the other