[captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2023] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] host: on capitol hill and this is really-hamas more. first, you house -- here is how you can join the conversation. republicans, 202-748-8001. democrats, 202-748-8000. independents, 202-748-8002. you can text us at 202-748-8003. jim jordan marching ahead despite his background signs on the path to the gravel. this morning, where the house comes in at noon -- house comes in at noon, even when his

opposition is likely to grow. ellen reporting jim jordan's opponents have been staggering their no votes over multiple votes. a strategy -- reporters are receiving death threats. roll call with the headline " airing at miller meeks received death threats over jordan opposition. she posted on x yesterday that despite assurances from the ohio -- the ohioan's team that they would cease those threats, threats took a darker turn after wednesday's vote. "i voted for chairwoman granger because she has demonstrated great ship on spending bills and

is a staunch conservative. ever since my boat, i received credible death threats and a barrage of threatening calls. authorities have been notified and my office is cooperating." she goes on to say "she will not accept bullying." she is not the only one. cumbersome enigma lola also -- congressman nick melodia also saying i will not succumb to threats. i will support a speaker candidate who will support the world health fund, national insurance, and a state tax proposal. he includes in there the threatening language she received. this from jennifer, capitol hill reporter. "the tactic did not work on me" that is a quote from jimenez.

"i became more cemented in by position in my position -- in my position. i am hispanic, you just don't do that to us." marian miller meeks is getting death threats, don bacon's wife is receiving threatening anonymous texts, staff is being cussed out on the phone. jordan's allies tactics are backfiring as detractors begin. jim jordan put out this tweet yesterday, "no american should accost another for their beliefs. we condemn threats against our colleagues and it is imperative we come together. stop, it is abhorrent." we will get to the front pages of the papers and that frontline on the israeli-hamas war. let's get to a couple of calls, they key in california, democratic color -- vicki in

california, democratic cal ler. caller: i wanted to say little bit about the -- about jim jordan and the president's visit. jim jordan, if you are not a legislator, what are you doing in the house and why are you trying to be speaker? ohio needs to vote him out. i hope any legislator that he can get up there will. hakeem jeffries being number one in my book. if the democrats are willing to negotiate and get someone else in from the other side they feel is worthy, who believes joe biden is the president, that would be great. i want to say about our president, he did not have to go to israel. he could have gone to bed. he had been on the phone day and

night, he is weary, but not too old for anything. he's is a brilliant, compassionate, experienced politician, a statesman above all. host: the president will address the nation tonight at it or p.m.. go to c-span.org for details of our coverage, prime, dressed by our president tonight and you can watch that on c-span networks and our c-span now cap -- app. let's hear from andy who is from new jersey, democratic caller. caller: this is andy. i am a moderate democrat. back in september, jim jordan wanted to shut down the government. thankfully, it was not done.

mark they try to shut down the government again? is this another form of trying to keep the government shut? i am in moderate democrat and i am pretty open-minded. every single day, intelligent people talk about how the deficit was run up in former president trump's time. they never said a word and now all of a sudden it is a big deal. people listen to this and they never change their mind. can't we see that republicans don't know how to manage the economy and the deficit? thank you and i love this program. thank you so much. host: thank you for joining the conversation. on the israel-hamas award, let's look at the front pages.

there is a headline and picture that dominates the national newspapers. the washington post, "in tel aviv, president biden raises hope for gaza aid." below that is this image. the president backs the hospital claim. it is the moment when president biden stepped off of the plane and he was greeted and embraced by benjamin netanyahu and the president. here he is coming off of air force one from yesterday. there is the embrace. he talks to the two leaders of israel and he went on to talk to reporters, both of those leaders talk to reporters. wall street journal also this morning showing the embrace. you also have this from usa

today, "biden assures israel it is not standalone -- it does not standalone." from the new york times, "u.s.-backed's israel as cause of blast remains disputed." biden telling reporters the defense department has shown him evidence it was a militant group and not israel who struck the hospital. the president announcing $100 million in aid to palestinians yesterday. the president will address the nation at 8:00 p.m. eastern. we are getting your thoughts on these headlines come on front pages of the newspapers, the israel-hamas war and what is happening on capitol hill. spring valley, an independent. let's hear from you. caller: thank you for taking my call.

i just want to congratulate the president for go to israel. that was the right thing to do. at the same time, he is posted with the arab world's together. it doesn't have to stop and israel because he is looked on as the president of the old world -- of the whole world. i used to be a republican. i am right now independent. i did not intend to vote for any republican in any office. host: part of his trip was going to include meeting with arab leaders and then the leader of the palestinian authority canceled his meeting with the president after the hospital blast that killed, according to reports, 500 people. there are headlines of happening

-- of what is happening in the middle east. the washington post, "in the north hezbollah missiles flight and civilians flee. israel is preparing for conflict on that side of its border with lebanon." you have this in the world news section of the wall street journal, "muslim world angered after explosions. they are seeing widespread protests in the middle east." president biden yesterday addressing the escalating tensions in the region after the violence of the past several days. here's what he had to sit. [video clip] pres. biden: you cannot look at what happened here to your fathers, mothers, grandparents, even babies and not scream out for justice. justice must be done.

well you feel that rich, do not consumed by it. after 9/11, while we saw justice, we also made mistakes. as the first president to visit israel in time of war, i have made wartime decisions. i know the choices are never clear or easy. there is always cost. it requires being deliberate. it requires asking very hard questions. it requires clarity about objectives and any honest assessment of whether the path you are on will achieve those objectives. the vast majority of palestinians are not hamas. hamas does not represent the houston people. hamas uses in us and families in gaza as human shields for their

command centers, weapons, tunnels, in residential areas. palestinian people are suffering greatly. we mourn the loss of innocent palestinian lives. i am saddened by the enormous loss of life yesterday in gaza. based on the information we have seen, it appears the result of any inherent -- an errant rocket fired in gaza. i grieve for the families who were killed or wounded by this tragedy. host: president biden and israel. a poll released tuesday found 76% of voters thought supporting israel was in the u.s. national interest. 42% of biden's handling of the conflict compared with 37% who

disapproved. younger and more activist progress of democrats seem less inclined to give him the benefit of a doubt. quinnipiac found 18 to 34 years old were opposed to sending weapons and military equipment to israel. president biden announcing $100 million in aid to palestine. from the hill, ron desantis says president biden's $100 million in u.s. funding to assist is to get to hamas and is calling on his rivals in the presidential race to oppose it. the president tweeting out, "i announced 100 minute dollars for humanitarian assistance in gaza. this will support over 100 million -- over one million displaced. we will have mechanisms in place

so this eight reaches those in need and not hamas or terrorist groups." compare that number with what is being reported by nbc news. while it is not yet finalized, the biden administration package is likely to seek $60 billion for ukraine. the rest will include $40 billion for aid to israel, taiwan, and that the u.s.-mexico border. al, republican caller. caller: how are you doing? host: what are your thoughts on the speakership for -- or the war in the middle east? caller: i used to be a democrat but i am a republican now. look what a mess biden got us in. obama has destroyed us.

host: kelly in birmingham, alabama. independent. caller: i am calling in about the speakership. i am just praying that this is an indication that the motor -- the more coherent wing of the republican party is starting to stand up to push out these maga types. they have no values themselves. jim jordan is nothing but a mouthy wimp. he turned his back on some people who needed him 30 years ago at ohio state. he himself ignored a subpoena from a congressional committee.

these people have got to go. i hope this is an indication that the republican party is coming back. i am an independent, but we have to have at least two viable coherent parties. thank you for your time. host: jim jordan from ohio plans to continue today at noon when the house gavels in in with a third round of voting. however, it is uncertain he would get the votes. there is reporting that he will lose more votes if he goes for another round of the voting today. jordan lost 20 republicans in the first round earlier this week. he lost 22 yesterday. noon eastern time, tune in to c-span.org for our gavel-to-gavel coverage of the house.

mark in georgia, democratic caller. caller: i have two points to make. i am a static -- aesthetic to see that republicans are putting their foot down and telling the radicals to take a hike. that is one. two, because anybody can be named speaker of the house, i would love to see arnold schwarzenegger be mentioned. i think it would be a great thing to see. he is very moderate, he knows how to work with democrats and republicans. host: there is movement on capitol hill by some to put patrick mchenry, the republican of north carolina, give him more powers for a while until the republican party can come

together on a consensus candidate. patrick henry of north carolina. there are representatives like michael mulder who voted against jim jordan and says it is time to empower patrick mchenry. here is what he had to say. >> it is clear he does not have the votes. it is up to him if he wants to put it to a third ballot. we will see more folks dropping off on a third ballot. there was a net loss of two for people who previously voted for him. i don't see the outcome changing here. the question for jim and the conference is how do we get back to work? that is the reality we have to deal with. the american people sent us here to govern. they sent us here to focus on

the issues that matter to them from spending to the border to the international crisis we are dealing with in israel and ukraine. we have to get back to work. if the votes are not there at the moment for someone to be speaker, it is imperative we empower patrick meehan gary -- patrick mchenry to serve in the speaker roll so he can get the house living again concretely issues. we need additional financial support for israel. host: that was michael lawler who represents a swing district in new york, a moderate republican saying it is time to move forward with giving patrick mchenry more powers so the house can get back to work and pass legislation pending aid for israel, ukraine, etc. yesterday, republican from texas expressed his opposition to

empowering the speaker from tim -- speaker pro tem. [video clip] >> we ask leadership to put the resolution on the floor that patrick mchenry would be empowered because we want to see where people are. what do think? -- do you think? >> i think jim is calling the bluff of people who say they're going to cut a deal with democrats. good luck dealing with that back home. i do not think we should move forward on that procedure. never in the history of this institution have we elevated a speaker pro tem. during that would be playing games with such an important role, third in line to the presidency. any move to do otherwise would

do enormous damage not just to the republican party but the house of representatives. i oppose doing that on house. i think it is contrary to the constitution saying that we shall choose a speaker and give the full powers of the speaker without having chosen a speaker makes no sense. we need to take a step back, do our job and choose a speaker. host: arguments for and against empowering the speaker pro tem, what do you think of that? michael, republican caller. caller: how are you today? host: good morning. caller: yes, i am talking about the speaker. i think what is going on in the house is ridiculous. they are supposed to be there for the people, they are making it personal. it is business.

it is sad because i don't think republicans can do anything right. if they wanted to elect joe biden again, they are helping him now. i think they're making a big mistake. get back to work, the world is in chaos. they said it was chaos under mr. trump, i find that hard to believe. this is really bad stuff. i hope they get back to work, do the job for the american people. host: who should be the speaker? caller: i honestly don't know. i think they should go outside the house. find somebody. nobody is going to agree with anybody that is in that house. host: how do you find a consensus candidate on the outside that could get to her at 17 votes? -- that could get 217 votes? i don't know -- caller: i don't know and i don't think they know.

what they are doing now is wasting more time and assuring people how dysfunctional -- and showing people how dysfunctional the whole house is. when they voted last time, every democrat voted against mccarthy. in that case, they would have acted against everybody who is going to get paid. it is personal to these people and it is very sad. it is not personal, it is business. let's get back to work. thank you very much. host: the second round of balloting, jim jordan not getting the magic number of 217. he did garner 190 and votes, he had 200 on tuesday. he picked up some, lost more. steve scalise secured seven votes. kevin mccarthy, five. a former commerce men new york, three. byron donalds, one.

tom, who is in leadership, one vote. another republican voted for mike garcia. candice miller also receiving one. john boehner, the former speaker of the house also got a book yesterday. katie granger of texas, the appropriations committee received a vote. bruce westerman, hakeem jeffries , democrats united behind him. 212 votes for him each and every time, including in january. charlotte and alabama -- in alabama, democratic color. caller: the truth stands alone. i want to speak on yesterday's

house of representatives elections. i pray hard that jim jordan does not receive the speaker ship -- speakership because it is going to open the door for donald trump. we think we are in trouble now, but just watch. as a guy in photo center, you have not seen nothing yet -- as a guy in florida said, you ain't seen nothing yet. i agree with that. it will open the door for donald trump. host: robert in ohio and independent. caller: how are you doing today? host: good morning. caller: i just want to say that i think they need new young leadership not from republicans

or democrats. i think it is to be an independent person that is basically -- i think they need to start off fresh from an independent person. that is what i believe. i just wanted to say that. host: on capitol hill yesterday, c-span cameras were on the senate side for the confirmation hearing of president biden's pick to be the investor to israel. this is the headline from the washington times, "nominee refutes holding hands with iran." the republicans criticizing the president's pick for the investor to israel. here's what james risch had to say. >> -- [video clip]

>> my problem goes back to your performance previously. eight -- an opinion piece says he would not allow iran access to the u.s. financial system under the nuclear deal with iran but he's eagerly try to do that by working to turn assets into convertible currency via u.s. banks. i am going to pursue that line at this point. i want to ask you if you recall sitting in that chair in july 2015 and stating "under the jcpoa, iran will continue tonight access -- will be denied access to u.s. commercial and financial assets." >> i remember that testimony well and we kept iran from becoming part of the u.s.

financial system. i am happy to discuss the implementation of the jcpoa. i know you and i may not agree on the policy, but what we did was implemented a policy that was transparent that i testified before this committee on in terms of what was being done. we are negotiated with iran to have them rollback their nuclear program in exchange with that they would get access to their money which has been frozen. we did not welcome them back into the u.s. financial system. host: president biden's pick to be the ambassador to israel. if you missed it, go to our website, we have points of interest on our video player. when you hit play, yellow stars will appear at the bottom and you can go through the questioning and answering.

related to the israel-hamas more -- war, vladimir putin traveled to china for a major summit with chinese leaders at the same time president biden was in israel. you have this headline related to that, "new divisions on view as biden goes to israel and vladimir putin to china. the contrasting trips show how vastly the political landscape has been redrawn by russia's invasion of ukraine and how that is on display in gaza. ." china and iran were forming a new axis over ukraine. russia relies on weapons from iran and diplomatic support from china to fight ukraine. iran has been isolated and too happy to have new trading partners. you can read more in the papers today.

mike, springfield, massachusetts, democratic color. -- democratic caller. caller: even though i know hakeem jeffries going to get nominated, if their to nominate a republican, i would like them to consider mitt romney. i think he would be a great speaker of the house, or the former governor of massachusetts. he was popular in massachusetts, that was governor charlie baker. i think he would make a great speaker of the house, too. as far as israel goes and the war, why didn't we in 1948 when britain and the u.s. formed israel, we should have made history in the heartland of america.

why that location was picked in the middle east was a nightmare. i cannot understand that. host: president biden addresses the nation at 8:00 p.m. eastern tonight. we are going to take a break, when we come back, cq roll call's aidan quigley joins us. later, the first of two lawmakers on the program at 8:30, we will be joined by tom mcclintock. we will get his take on the speaker battle and the funding request for israel. following that will be lois frankel from florida. ♪ >> since 1979, in partnership

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for jordan." guest: that is a very good question. it is clear that jim jordan does not have the votes to become elected speaker and the prevailing thought is that on the next ballot he will lose even more from the establishment republican types who dug in. i think the tide is turning against him. host: there is reporting that this is by design, they are taking turns voting against him. there is reporting that that is the strategy. can you explain? guest: opponents want to show momentum against jordan. if that is a strategy, which it would make sense, they want to show that momentum is turning against him and their building opposition. there are some lawmakers who want this to be over and get support jordan.

but now they are frustrated by the process and the fact that jordan is pushing on when it is clear holdouts will not budge. the kevin mccarthy experience, there were negotiations going on between mccarthy and his holds out -- and his holdouts. the senior per breeders who were against him, they are not negotiating, they dug in. yesterday afternoon they were calling for an immediate vote because they think they have the numbers. host: your headline, "speaker battle lines may be heartening, next steps are unclear." talk about the pressure campaign on those opponents. guest: there is a lot of talk this week from the opponents about because they're getting from constituents putting pressure on jordan. one member from iowa said she was receiving death threats for

changing her votes because she was for jordan on the first ballot and then it became clear he had no path to 217. she said she was getting death threats. it is a high-pressure environment on capitol hill where jim jordan supporters but him to become speaker and they're are putting pressure on his lawmakers -- they are putting pressure on these lawmakers. it seems potentially criminal and the office is in touch with police. host: is the pressure valve getting patrick mchenry more power? guest: jim jordan has disavowed the campaign and the death threats. to patrick mchenry, we are singing movement from moderate republicans to give him more power -- seeing a movement from moderate republicans to give him more power. it begs a constitutional question where you have a debate

on whether he has that power. there is one train of thought that he does have that power. it has never been tested before. a speaker has never been vacated until kevin mccarthy. we are trying to see what power patrick mchenry has and a resolution to do so would formalize it. some say he can do it on his own. host: who is waiting in the wings if there is not another vote for jim jordan and he bows out of this race? guest: there are a lot of moving pieces here and a lot of republicans still interested in being speaker, despite what we have seen with the two candidates that have already been nominated. it is hard to see a path to 217 for anyone at this point, especially when you have jim jordan backers that will be absent -- and would be upset about him not becoming speaker.

to answer your question, i think the republican committee chairman was publicly flirted with the bid two weeks ago. now he would be a clear option. there are a handful of others, patrick mchenry himself even though he seems to not want her job -- not want the job as we saw with his gavel slam when kevin mccarthy was ousted. he might get more power, he might try to go for it permanently. host: republicans have had a reluctant speaker before, paul ryan. guest: they have. if you don't want it, that makes you more appealing than those who do. host: let's get to kathleen, democratic caller. caller: i need to know this answer, as well as some of your republican callers blaming the

democrats about them helping to give mccarthy out. i was under the impression that if you got the majority, like the republicans, it is 220 and eight weight against him. why are you -- blaming democrats for getting rid of mccarthy when you have 220 republicans? it is not the democrats' fault because these eight republicans went against one of their own. i hear people talking about why do the democrats not vote to keep a speaker in? since when is a republican speaker going to keep a democratic speaker in? why could not four or five of those republicans who did not want mccarthy come over with the democrats? host: we will take your questions. guest: you make a really good point. that is the argument that the

democrats on the hill are making. democrats never vote for republican speakers and two weeks ago when they put it with it republicans who opposed kevin mccarthy to vacated the speakership, that was the argument the democrats were making. we do not support republican speakers. mccarthy had a long list of things he had done that they did not like. most recently, going on tv on sunday after keeping the government open on saturday and winning democrats with the government shutdown shutdown when democrats provided a majority of the votes to keep the government open. that was a move mccarthy made him generate sixth, the trump experience -- made, january 6, the trump experience, a lot of arguments against mccarthy. as we tied it back to empower patrick mchenry, democrats are

looking for concessions. they are looking for a deal. hakeem jeffries said they want to see what republicans come up with before they go back and discuss it. we are waiting and seeing on that front. >>the public -- host: the republicans would need votes to give patrick mchenry these powers. what concessions would democrats want? guest: that is a good question. they need to democratic votes because there are conservatives that say this is essentially forming a coalition government with democrats. there is no difference in their eyes between giving mckinney more power and picking some compromise candidate and working with democrats. as far as concessions go, the impeachment inquiry is one where democrats want that to end. that might be too big of any ask.

when you come to the operations process, democrats want to keep the government open past november 17, less than a month from now. they want to negotiate the debt limit deal. mckendree -- patrick mchenry help to negotiate so he may help steer in the direction which some conservatives would be upset about. those are two areas where they would be room for negotiation. host: republicans versus democrats, how many are there? two vacancies right now, what is the magic number? guest: 217 is the magic number for the speaker race. there are 221 republicans at this point so there is not a lot of room for house republicans. host: team in alabama, lets you -- tim in alabama, let's hear from you.

caller: about speaker of the house, with all of the chaos, the mage republic -- maga republicans and everything, i don't think anyone whether it is mitt romney or anybody else could go in and get the votes to be speaker of the house. the other thing is i would not be surprised if jim jordan has been in conversation with donald trump. he is going to keep running. it is wasting time when some other way of getting the house in order -- he is waiting time. host: let's pick up on that point because how does that help the republican party the 2024 election? are there republicans concerned about that? guest: there are republicans that are concerned about speaker jim jordan and swing districts

with trump at the top of the ballot. house republicans are nervous heading into next year and there is fear that speaker jim jordan would cause some headaches to them when it comes to the campaign trail. host: aaron in huntsville, alabama. independent. caller: i was putting together this week how international bankers helped establish israel. host: tori, missouri -- troy, missouri. democratic caller. caller: this is a big joke. the guy behind all of this is trump. he calls down to florida -- just like mccarthy did.

it is a big joke. host: let's hear from john who is in conley springs, independent. there you go. caller: i know how republicans could win this first vote if they do with the democrats did. if you vote -- you want to get any dnc money or rnc money. host: they have tried that tactic on people. guest: i think so. there is the looming threat of a primary challenger is the scariest thing you can say to any house members. a lot of them have dug in and feel strongly, especially supporters of steve scalise who are voting against jim jordan on the floor. some of them feel he won the

election against jordan fair and square. i think they have dug in and are not moving. host: when this gets settled, what is the first piece of legislation the house brings to the floor? guest: the top priority bill be aided to israel -- will be paid to israel -- aid to israel. israel, ukraine, taiwan, a big appropriations package is heading the way of congress. the senate is going to have to move first, the house usually moves first. with no speaker, the senate is gearing up to consider that. the senate seems to be way more willing than the house to support ukraine which is going to be a huge part of this. host: 60 billion dollars for

ukraine, $40 billion for taiwan, security on the southern border, the aid that the president announced for gaza, is this part of the appropriations headed to congress? guest: i don't believe it is. this is focused more on defense and security. host: june in charleston, south carolina. democratic caller. caller: i would like to know when they picked jordan when he is being charged in georgia. also, he was involved in january 6. he is trump's buddy. to me, that is dangerous. that is all i have to say. host:'s role on generate sixth,

the phone calls he made to the president, that has come up by his opponents. democrats have definitely highlighted that. guest: absolutely. anti-pelosi was talking about how jim jordan is an insurrectionist -- nancy pelosi was talking about how jim jordan is an insurrectionist. it looks like with the help of republicans, they are successfully achieving. jordan has not faced any charges over january 6, but it is something that there is some focus on. host: ohio, john is there and is that he. independent -- is it there in cincinnati. independent. caller: the republicans have 221 members. if they would elect lee zeldin,

not currently a member, would he be able to vote and make it 222? guest: it is possible someone who is not a member of the house could become the speaker which is why we see votes for lee zeldin, but he would not be a vote during -- a voting member of the house, he would just be the speaker. host: kelly in new york, democratic caller. . caller: i am a democrat but i love democracy and i know we need a healthy congress. i do not understand why the moderate republicans do not call the bluff on extreme and a few of them vote present, put up a decent republican and then the rest are going to have to join

or else my guy is going to become speaker of the house. host: hakeem jeffries is for guy, i take it -- is her guy, i take it. guest: that would lower the threshold unit for speaker and possibly elevate hakeem jeffries. moderate republicans are really upset about what happened to kevin mccarthy the fact that democrats did not help them or vote to table the motion. a moderate from pennsylvania it was talking yesterday saying there is a lot of broken trust between moderate republicans and democrats they would work with on some thing like that. there is no appetite among many of these moderate republicans for any type of coalition government. they are interested in empowering patrick mchenry which some democrats have also

expressed interest in. we will see how that shapes up, but that will be the focus today. host: michael in westminster, democratic caller. caller: can you hear me? host: you are good, go ahead. caller: two questions. if republicans cannot elect a speaker in effect the government is shut down so it is a government shutdown without republicans being blamed, necessarily. if that is not the case, i would like you to explain why that isn't the case. host: the government is not functioning properly. there is nothing happening but for speaker election at this point when the house could be working on the appropriation bill, the government shutdown on every 17th.

since that did pass a resolution to keep funding the government at the beginning of october, agencies are able to function. it is not technically a government shutdown even though it is quite clear those gridlock's and nothing is able to pass until patrick mchenry is given more powers. host: republicans are feeling the pressure to act when it comes to aid for israel. president is likely to address is a package for israel and ukraine when he addresses the nation tonight. go to our free mobile app for our coverage. what is the support like in the house and the senate for the president's aid package. guest: it is still very early so we are waiting to see. israel has a lot of support from

many members of both parties in congress. that package will pass. if it is just israel, it would pass in a bipartisan motion. even john fetterman is saying israel needs this and he has been in front of this. when you add other pieces to this, it becomes more complicated. ukraine is becoming increasingly polarized between the parties and the timbers. senate publicans have been really pushing to continue to fund the war for ukraine. house republicans like mccarthy come he stripped some money from the continuing resolution that was in the senate version. that would be complicated. if you were to bring it to the floor, however the new speaker is, or temporary speaker is, it would pass with support from republicans, but mostly republicans -- but most the

democrats. there are some policy disputes. if it was just israel aid, i think it would pass overwhelmingly. if you add in more pieces which is what the administration is trying to do, it would become more complicated. host: if that package is brought to the floor, what are the ripple effects of that on the new speaker, whether it is a speaker by default or an elected speaker by the republican conference? guest: $100 billion in new spending is going to be controversial, especially for those on the right side of the party. it is going to be tough to navigate for whoever the new speaker is. if is not jim jordan and you have other conservatives upset about how this played out. host: any talk of republicans going behind closed doors today to vote in secret or sang

publicly how they would vote? is that before they go to the floor? guest: nothing has been announced at this point. there have been a lot of meetings among house republicans. it is just a therapy session where congress members say the same thing over and over again. it seems that the anti-jordan members are dug in and not moving. i am not sure how productive another conference meeting would be. host: jerry in michigan, independent. let's hear from you. caller: [indiscernible] stay in the office until they can get in. host: are you talking about

patrick mchenry? caller: no, the former speaker of the house. host: kevin mccarthy? what are the eyes of kevin mccarthy coming back -- of the odds of kevin mccarthy coming back? guest: is very low. there are some -- it is very low. there are some members who voted for him to come back. democrats are having second thoughts about removing him. host: aidan quigley, a reporter with cq roll call. follow his reporting on roll call.com. thank you as always for your time. guest: thank you for having me. host: when we come back, me of your calls on these headlines this morning dominating the headnes. another fairly election for a speaker yesterday in the house

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mccarthy had five of his colleagues vote for him. candice miller also getting a vote from a republican colleague. john boehner also getting a vote from a republican yesterday. and bruce westerman with a single vote as well. jim jordan will try again today, the third day in a row at 12 p.m. eastern time when the house comes back into session. our coverage of live here on c-span, c-span.org or our free mobile app. let's listen to congressman, mike gallagher after the second speaker vote yesterday saying, he has no idea of jim jordan will drop out. here is his impression on what could happen next.

[video clip] >> i have no idea. i think jim needs to -- i think it would be wise for jim to figure how to make progress or reducing the number of votes. who cares about the institution. i don't know. i have not talked to have him. >> do you think there's anything behind a bipartisan speaker? >> my sense is that the democrats review the speaker pro tem path as that. we would be more reluctant to vote for republican even if they

are reasonable. that is just my sense. it is not like hakeem jeffries calls me and reveals --. i think the tops of the coalition government. i am not sure how many votes would be for that. i think everyone agrees on what needs to happen and compromises that needs to happen on funding. israel. i think there a obvious bipartisan compromise on ukraine and border security. i just do not know. i think it is premature. host: in republican and wisconsin talking about what could happen. you heard him talking about the

possibility of giving patrick mchenry the power to bring legislation to the floor. at what costs he asked to o reporters. he hopes democrats wants to hold out for significant concessions from republican such as additional seats on committees before supporting mr. kelly's plan, which at least some democrats would need to support. if they can stop mr. jordan from becoming speaker, they would take that win. democrats should vote to make mr. mchenry the interim speaker if it could secure promises that he could negotiate in good faith for the government. in the process, they should sidelined the ultra right republicans by making it relevant their votes on who should lead the chamber.

that is from the washington post editorial. what do all of you think? roxanne. republican. it is your turn. caller: i like to talk about speaker jim jordan. i think he would be great. i do not think it would be wise to break the constitution to put mchenry in their. also, people need to stop calling trump supporters extremists just because they challenged election results. the democrats did it for a long time. look what happened to the capital yesterday with pro-palestinian capital attackers. it is not fair. host: why do you call them attackers? what were they doing in your opinion? caller: they did an insurrection

in the middle of the congress meetings. there were people all over the capital yesterday. host: the headline on the daily mail, pro-palestinian poster protesters, they use the word invade the capital. if you missed that, you can find that on our website. it is also on social media. many people taking pictures of the pro-palestinian protesters that came to the capital yesterday amid the speaker election. they came either way into some office building and holding a sit down they are. many of them arrested. john and atlantic, florida. independent. caller: i think it is time for

the -- or some third party to get involved. they have may be a 2% reading. they hardly get anything done. they think about the next election. if the vote against any of your constituents they will not get any money. it seems to be no one that is in the house of the representative, neither have to devote one side or the other. host: adele and springfield, illinois. caller: i have the 30 day rule . his birthday was october 9.

the speakership is better being a minority party. they cannot select a speaker. how can they govern? the state of israel. we need to know that there are over 200 children that were killed by israeli attacks in palestine. to call it a war would be -- there is no -- of any kind. i do not see how this could be labeled a war. a reaction to a terrorist attack. to call it a war, do not make

sense especially if you're putting the entire blame on the society that is not capable of fighting back if there is true terrorism. host: carl. columbus, georgia. republican. caller: a few of the republicans who were voting for someone who wasn't in the house, i think they have the right idea. we need a speaker who isn't currently ndc operative in -- in d.c. operative. caller: i'm calling on the regard of jim jordan. this is a man --.

[inaudible] secondly come on israel. everyone loves israel. you cannot fight fire with fire. it is not safe. it is not fair what is happening to them. host: the president announcing yesterday 100 million in for aid. to help the 200 million palestinians that live there.

joey. republican. joey, good morning. we are listening to you. caller: i was calling in about the speaker of the house. i have been watching them since the republicans got in their. it really doesn't matter if they have a speaker not because all of the bills from chuck schumer, he will not bring them to the floor. it really wouldn't make a difference if they got a speaker are not. host: they really have to bring bills to the floor, including a funding bill that will keep the government up and running. there is legislation that has to come to the floor or the government will shut down.

brendan in boynton beach, florida. independent. caller: i'm calling to support jim jordan for the speaker. i also want to say how terrible the anti-semitic gathering in the capital yesterday. it was a disgrace. anti-semitic. host: why is it anti-semitic? caller: they are protesting against israel, a jewish nation. what is the definition of anti-semitic. host: what is it to you? caller: anti-jews. of those people are anti-jews. they are spreading lies. host: the present yesterday when he landed in tel aviv, israel sitting down with the prime minister did tell reporters that he believes because of defense

department intelligence that he saw the strike on the hospital in gaza was done by militants not israel. it is what he said the evidence is pointing to at this point. joyce and cedar mountain, north carolina. caller: this is an overview regarding the speaker issue. there has been rumbling for years about the anonymous republicans being fed up. they missed an opportunity to impeach donald trump of first time around. this is an perfect opportunity for some of the martyrs to get together and say, let's unite with the pro tem speaker go with the democrats. let's make a statement, let's come out behind the shadows and admit we are completely fed up with how everything is going and

we are going to try to get our party back together. host: alex in delaware. hi, alex. we are to you alex. caller: the speaker of the house. everybody is making a big deal of it. why isn't even being talked about like this? i do not even understand one bit about this. host: you think they should keep going? caller: of course. host: i'm going to leave it there. you are hard to hear on your muffled line. alex says to keep going. jim jordan or according to republic -- reporters plans to

keep going when the house convenes middle eastern time today. we will have our gavel-to-gavel coverage. if that vote happens, if the scheduled third vote happens. the reporting is, the opposition is slated to grow. melanie of cnn tweeting saying that is by design. there's a strategy by opponents of jim jordan to stacker there are partition -- opposition to show him that it is growing and that there is no path for him to be speakership. even in virginia, an independent. eva in virginia. caller: i am 91 years old and

our country is in a mess. i have six great grandchildren. i would love for someone to pick liz cheney to run for speaker of the house. thank you so much. . host: catherine in new york. caller: i have been hearing these conversations and comment since to strike. where was the intelligence and sophistication of america? where was the intelligence and sophistication of israel involving the strike? i never saw that separation when it comes to the -- people. nor did i see and in america when it came to black panthers in the african-american people. where were the palestinians? they do not know that hamas was going to carry on in this

ridiculous way and tortured these people. all of their lives they had been given a hard time. these people allowed hamas to do with they did to them. you get what i'm saying to you. host:in indiana. republican. morning. we are listening. godhead. caller: i am pro israel. some people are always getting in the way when there is a battle.

it is a religious war. i'm back israel. if someone had done to my family what they did israel --. innocent people getting the way. my opinion on congress. i watch congress and i think of children who go back and forth. i am no republican but i am more a moderate. i am not far left, i am not far right. i am in the middle. why can't they just sit down? you got to give and take. they can never seem to do that. the republicans want their way. it is what is best for our country. i am for helping people and this and that.

they just made to sit down and get along. yes, i am going to vote republicans because when the democrats -- when they are in, everything is high when they are in. i am sick and tired of people talking about donald trump. we have worse things in this country to take care of then donald trump. he was a businessman. i'm sure he did bad things. everybody in office does things underneath the table. that is the truth. host: marcia in indiana. her thoughts on the israel hamas war and these bottle for speaker on the capital representative from florida sent out a statement calling on jim

jordan to call out of the race. if we moved to the third round we already know the opposition is on track to grow. it is time to jim jordan to understand this race is over. the opposition is hardening according to roll call, many of them facing threats for their vote against jim jordan. we read to you earlier, a republican of iowa putting out a statement saying she is receiving threats -- credible threats that they had reported to the authorities. we have other members of congress saying the same, voted against jim jordan. jim jordan putting this tweet out. no american should cost another further relief. it is imperative we come together. stop, it is important. andrew and staten island, new york -- in staten island, new

york. independent. can you mute the tv? caller: yes, i can. on the speakership please. i think that a lot of people end up making a judgment as far as jordan or anyone else's concern on the republican side. they are also thinking about trump. trump is making -- is weighing heavy on their decisions as far as the speakership race is concerned that they seem to be in denial. as far as israeli -- people seem to forget that during world war

ii america had a huge population of nazi -- hence the war and aristocracy to occur here in america. i think that is resurfacing. host: democratic caller. mark, let's turn to you. hi, graduate. good morning. caller: you look good and healthy during this turbulent time. i think jensen is a bully and a borderline fastest. if he is like trump, he also has a tendency to be a crook. we do not need another one of those guys speaker of the house. i would even resurrect nancy pelosi, she was one of the best ever. she deserves some nice return. host: she is still in congress.

caller: you are right. i do not know who they are going. . they better do it quick. if the republicans love their country they better get off thereabouts and do it together -- -- get off of their butts and do it together. [indiscernible speaking] if you are tuning in the last couple of rounds you would have seen nancy pelosi, the former speaker for the democrats on the floor sitting right across from their nominee, the party nominee, hakeem jeffries. host: also, carry number two when she was in leadership side-by-side right next to hakeem jeffries, those two along with the entire democratic party, to 12 voting for hakeem jeffries for speaker. bernie in glendale, california

. caller: good morning, c-span. on the speaker, i would love to have mike huckabee instead of jordan. host: ok. caller: give jordan keeps on running as speaker of the house, he will force a government shutdown just because he wants to have fiscal responsibility. whether he is asking for money in ukraine and for israel.

he knows it is not going to going where. host: the president expected to talk about the aid package that he wants to send to congress, 100 billion. 60 billion according to reports for ukraine. 40 billion for israel, taiwan and the u.s. mexico border. luis in fredericksburg, virginia. caller: my opinion of all of this, this -- is very important to me. i will not vote for anybody who votes to send aid to ukraine, to israel. i will not vote for anybody who votes against jim jordan. it is just as simple as that.

i have been republican for a long time, whose eyes have been opened by president donald trump. he is truly one of the greatest presidents we have ever had. i am against all of that. i am a true republican. i am a republican of abraham lincoln and herbert hoover, president eisenhower. host: we're going to take a quick work. when we come back ---- when we come back, we are going to hear from two speakers on the isle. up first, tom mcclintic. ok. stay with us.

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continues. host: tom mcclintock, republican in california. thank you for being here. let's start with how you voted in the two rounds of voting for jim jordan and why. guest: i am a big fan of his. i think he makes a great speaker. what was done with mccarthy was entirely legitimate, a complete collapse of party discipline and no party can govern like that. that is where we are right now. host: know her the motion to reinstate the current speaker, kevin mccarthy -- you've all heard the motion to reinstate the current speaker, kevin mccarthy. where did that go? what do you think of the prospects of that? guest: i think it is going to and two ways. either restore party participant or kevin mccarthy as a united republican front or we are going

to see a hakeem jeffries puppet takeover as speaker of the house. the happened in 1994. republicans had a one majority in the state. little brown was able to seduce among the 41 to join the democrats and denied the republicans the majority to award to them. i would hate to see that happen here. finding five out of 221, that should be child's play. . host: what are the odds realistically? guest: depends on enough of these -- having the wisdom to understand the in norma's damage that they have done. what the prospects of that are,

-- i can't read mind but that is what will happen. no pattern -- power -- party can govern in this matter. there has to be -- has to be party discipline. the policy votes that we cast our between ourselves, constituents and our conscience. the decisions of how the house is to be run, that have to belong collectively to the majority party or it is not a majority party. the majority party is only that when it votes as a majority. the democrats do that very effectively. republicans use to. that has what has collapsed. that is what is going to be the end of the republican majority. host: some believe that will take votes from democrats, that type of proposal, which will cost republican some concession.

if that happens, do you believe that patrick mchenry is a puppet of the democratic party? guest: i have great respect to patrick mchenry. i do not think he would agree with such a thing. the constitution does not mention anything from a half speaker or a temporary speaker. you are either speaker or you are not. that is efficient to the running of the house. i would take policies out of it. host: what do you say to some of jim jordan supporters who have reached out with threats to your colleagues who have opposed --. guest: they even threatened me. i have been a jim jordan supporter from day one. a woman named luna from florida. i told jim, i supported you in

every vote, every conversation i had. this is counterproductive to your election and i think this is going to cost you your election. it has become a hindrance to the election. host: the threats needed to stop. guest: to his credit, he said that very clearly in a strongly. host: has he done enough? guest: we will see. host: what do you mean? guest: we will see if it stops. if anything cost him the speakership, it would be that. kevin mccarthy made more concessions to conservatives than any speaker that i ever served with. the 22 years in the california legislature, the 15 years in the congress, he has been the most conservative speaker.

he is not a free agent cleared the speaker has to represent the consensus of the majority so they can nudge in the certain direction. it was a group of self-proclaimed conservatives combined with a united democratic party to oust him. the irony is just stunning. the limited fringe of the republican party has become a right to the conservative movement. host: will there be a third round of voting and will the republicans nominate jim jordan? guest: we have been told there will no that should be no votes before noon. one thing that troubles me, that building, that was built for one person and one person only, to

talk out our differences. we talk out our differences. we should be there right now. we should be in conference meetings yelling at each other, insulting each other, appealing to each other, reasoning with each other. we are not doing that. i do not think we can get closer to resolving this without the process unfolding as messy and as annoying as it is. that is how this process works. it cannot work without talking to each other. host: catherine in pennsylvania. republican. caller: i think everybody needs to grow up and put their big boy pants on. i do not understand. i am a taxpayer. i am fed up with paying work

foreign wars. why are we not giving them low-interest loans? why's the taxpayer always stuck holding the bag? that is my comment. guest: nearest troubling aspects of that that bother me. what are we paying -- there are -- that is not with that money should be used for. i am all for assuring that they have the military supplies that they need to defeat the russians . the same thing goes with israel. when we did that for britain before the entry of the united states of the work, it was leased. that would be the more appropriate route to take. this nonsense of sending hamas $100 million as of the president has just proposed were humanitarian aid.

that is not going to go to the people of gaza. that is going to go to hamas. you send humanitarian aid to your friends, you do not send it to your enemies. host: what evidence you have that it would not go to palestinian? the president says he will make sure safety guards are emplaced -- emplaced -- in place. guest: $230 million of u.s. taxpayer money through the u.n. to gaza for humanitarian aid. it i read an article the other day about gasoline supplies provided with humanitarian aid going directly to hamas. host: are you opposed to the manager you need? guest: i am opposed to sending aid to your enemies.

that is what the president has proposed. host: what about the civilians that are caught in this war? guest: that is a terrible thing. war is held. hamas targets civilians and uses it civilians as shields. host: we will go to kevin. independent. my first comment, i am independent. i am a trump supporter. i am not a supporter of the republican party. caller: you guys do not have your act together. the more you guys go around and mess everything up and not get a speaker in there, the more you are going to lose votes. the insurrection that happened with the hamas protesters, can

you sit there and tell the american people that they are going to get the same treatment that trump supporters got. our whole system is done. guest: i can't tell you that because it is not true. there is a double standard that has been applied to our justice system depending on the political viewpoints of the people being prosecuted. i have nothing nice to say about the people who broke into the capitol and destructed one of our core constitutional functions as a government. we also throw the book at others who have attempted doing the same thing. treated one differently than the other because of the political views is utterly destructive. are you equating what happened on trainer six with the sit-down protest -- are you equating what happened on january 6 the same as the sit-down protest?

300 were arrested. alexander in brooklyn. caller: good morning. . thank you for taking the call. i do not even know what to say. what is happening with the republican party. it is just a major disaster. i do agree with the speaker. the republican party right now is using the worst tactics. jordan is threatening. people are calling representatives with death threats. the republican party has evolved into this nightmare. they want to say that democrats are the communist. that they are destroying our

democracy. look at the way they are handling this vote. how do you even expect republicans to be able to govern? this is an opportunity for you as representatives to finally pull out the curtains on the chaos that is happening in the republican party. get yourselves together to be a moderate republican that -- we have three representatives who do not vote for jordan. do i agree with them? no. we're not going to bash them and destroy them. guest: jim jordan is not responsible for those threats. i had a conversation with him on that. i'm convinced. every movement has one. to be able to compare the democratic and republican party, you will find the lunatic fringe of the democratic side, this

whole movement to be much larger in beginning to affect the mainstream of the democratic party. with respect to the republicans being disaster right now, party discipline has collapsed. you cannot govern if you do not vote as a majority. that is probably too much libertarianism and not too little in this case. the prosperity of our country, the security of our borders. the security of our families. of those are all quite sound policies, even if at the moment they expect some -- for some very bad decisions by a very small minority party. there were eight members who took this upon themselves.

i do not blame the democrats for that. i blame those republicans. at some point i am praying that they will see the damage they have done and corrected while there is still time. host: jim jordan on the first ballot. he did not have the 217 that he needed. lost again. cnn was running a headline that he will lose big if there's a third round of voting. do you agree? guest: again, can't read minds. i think we need to be not sitting in the studio talking about it. all of us need to be in the capital with each other to resolve this. host: republican.

welcome to the conversation. caller: new anti-trumper's are the fringe -- you anti-trumper's are the fringe. trump supporters are the majority. it is the establishment that is out of control. freedom congress is out of the establishment control. our only hope to save us from democracy. guest: i was one of the founding members of the freedom caucus. i believed we needed a strong conservative voice within the republican congress.

i recognize their tactics were entirely counterproductive to our conservative agenda. i envisioned a caucus that will influence the entire republican congress and move them into a conservative direction. i do not anticipate a group who would combine with the democrats 2 -- republican agenda and become counterproductive. i will point to the counter tactics in trying to intimidate members in this vote. that does not hurt -- help jim jordan, that hurts jim jordan. he recognizes that. i do not understand why others cannot see that. you talk these things out. maybe -- will sit back and. . think more about what you just said host: michael. independent.

caller: when it comes to the speaker race, i do wish you guys can get your things together and get somebody in there so you can deal with appropriations and maybe delegate a bottle of wine. guest: we had in the week before mccarthy was ousted, we acted on for appropriations bills. those four appropriation bills covered 70% of discretionary spending in the federal government. we had eight more to go. we canceled the october recess in order to take those bills up and pass them. unfortunately, -- decided that their agenda was more important. as i warned that day when the vote was taken, the result would be -- the house would become

paralyzed and it would face many weeks of votes. that is exactly what has happened. that is a tragedy. it is a tremendous blow for the conservative agenda, the fact that it was perpetrated by self-described -- just adds irony to the insanity. host: the opposition will only grow if there is another round of voting. he said it is time to understand for jim jordan to understand this race is over. guest: i do not know how a third vote will come out your i would advise him to withdraw at that point. until the party disciplines, this is going to go on and on. i told the congress a few days ago, you can go through the

roster of the entire republican roster one by one, nobody would get close to 217 votes. probably the closest would be kevin mccarthy who got 188 when we elected him as speaker back in january on the 15th ballot. his vote and congress was 188 to 31. that is a larger majority by far than any steve scalise got in their votes in the conference appeared and does not matter at this point until party discipline is restored. i would propose a role simply saying that, we will come into the congress. all viewpoints would be heard. if you got a grievance, it would be a expedited process to bring the grievance up. then we will vote. once we invoke it, we will all agree to respect the majority even if we disagree with it.

that is called democracy. democracy is the occasional necessity of deferring to the opinions of others. sometimes that is very frustrating. sometimes it is bitterly disappointing. as churchill also said, many arms of government has been tried and will be tried. democracy is far the worst. host: mark in cherry hill, new jersey. democratic caller. caller: we heard reporting that mccarthy was voted out as a speaker because of his willingness to work with the democrats. i'm wondering if tha t reporting is accurate. if a candidate for speaker said

that he will work with -- he or she would work with democrats in the house and the senate on appropriations. if guest: let's talk about the continuing resolutions. we past the deadline approach. we passed a continuing resolution that provided an 8% cut in non-discretionary spending over the next 30 days. that was voted down by 21 republicans because it was not conservative enough. the deadline was upon us and recognition that once a government shutdown occurs, it is going to be resolved in a way that republicans would not like. republican congress directed the speaker to put in a continuing

resolution without those provisions. kevin mccarthy said this is what i am going to do -- are you ok with it? there weren't any objections at least at that meeting. he puts that out on the floor. it passes. the justification that matt gaetz and his seven friends used to combine with the democrats to oust the speaker paralyzed the house and leaves us in a situation we are now in. host: richard in canada. a republican watching there. caller: i have lots of republican friends in florida, california and arizona. this other police chief that was fired by nancy pelosi. nancy pelosi lighted by january 6. kevin mccarthy did not keep his

word and released the january 6 -- to the public. how come you sir did not call on mr. mccarthy to release those january 6 tapes? guest: i believe all of that should be out to the -- out so the american people can make a informed decision about what actually happened. i do not know why kevin mccarthy did not release all of the tape. i know he release them to the news agencies, to fox news for example. the bottom line though, i think all of that information should be before the american people. that is why speech is so important.

host: let's hear next from darrell. independent. caller: i was supposed to get out of the marine corps in september of 1965. everybody got extended for vietnam in 1965. i found out that wasn't true. now, i am in a situation where here is russia, they are no longer our friends. who are our enemies are now our friends. guest: i believe we have a war that settled that record. i'm not quite sure the point you

were making. host: cnn is reporting the stake for calling all americans to leave lebanon. your reaction? guest: a very vulnerable situation and frightening. a reason why we got to be sure that israel has everything that they need to defend their borders and restore stability. host: brian in massachusetts. caller: how much money in the and arms sales to saudi arabia and the last 10 years? trump increases spending. guest: we shouldn't be sending aid to our enemies. we have been doing that for a

very long time and it has not worked out very well for us. host: saudi arabia is an enemy? guest: i believe they are. they are certainly not a friend. the past attack on 9/11, they certainly move about and did not pass that information along. caller: well, i'm really tired about the lies and misinformation from the media. democrats objected to count the electoral college votes in 2004 and 2016. the only difference being the democrats couldn't have the house and the senate vote to reject, which is what is required. in 2020, we did have the house and senate vote. there were 14 senators and 114 house members voting to inject. 810 day audit -- a 10 day audit.

the riot didn't help trump, it helped democrats because that bill. there is 31,000 hours of video they went through and pick what they wanted in that commission, which was not good. the majority of republicans are behind trump. you keep saying our republican agenda. the majority is with trump because he got us out of nato. he had the abraham accords . host: guest: after he received the nomination, it was not my first choice, it was not my second choice, but i can tell the difference between a fire and a fireman. they fireman is trying to save my house from burning down, i do

not care from time to time he misbehaves. that is my view of trump. i am backing desantis right now. because the sandisk and gives us trump policies without trump trauma but if trump received the nomination i will be supportive because it is the policies that ultimately matter. not personalities. that's why think it is a mistake for attacking biden for his age. it is the policies he is impose the has done such damage to the nation's economy and security. that is what needs to be debated. that is what the american people need to decide. with what happened on january 6, i was there. i saw injured police officers. this was clearly an attempt to disrupt the function of the government.

i agree with you democrats made exactly the same objections in 2016 elections. they condemn republicans for making after the 2020 elections. also, let me make one thing very clear. congress has no authority to disqualify electoral votes. if no candidate receives a majority of the electoral vote, who makes the decision of electing the president? house of representatives makes that decision. therefore house verbs in additives cannot disqualify impose -- house of representatives cannot disqualify those. the votes are to be counted in the presence of the congress. the congress has no power to select which of those is going

to count and which votes is going to reject. host: as always, we thank you for your time this morning. guest: thank you for hing me. host: we come back another perspective on the speaker race and crisis in mid east with democrat lois frankel of florida, member of the appropriation committee. we will be right back. ♪ ♪ >> since 1979, in partnership with the cable industry, c-span has provided complete coverage of the halls of congress, from the house and senate floors to congressional hearings, party briefings, and committee meetings. c-span gives you a front row seat to how issues are debated and decided. no commentary. no interruptions. completely unfiltered. c-span your unfiltered view of

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democrat of florida. let's begin with the speaker race on capitol hill. there is talk about some republicans they would give the speaker pro tem patrick mchenry power to bring legislation to the floor. it sounds like that comes to the floor, washington post editorial board proposing that in their newspaper this morning, if that were to happen, it would require democrats to vote with some republicans to do so. would you be a yes vote on that? guest: i would have know the details. i think it is obvious to everybody we are in chaos and not doing much good for the american people in congress without having a speaker. there are some crisis is we have to deal with. not only what is happening in israel and ukraine, but we have in less than one month, at the end of our budget agreement, and so we want to keep government open. for me, it is not so much who is

going to be if we do do that, but make sure we have an agreement in place that certain things will get done or certain things will come to the floor. host: what are those certain things? guest: 41, our immediate concern, the president's going to bring some type of supplemental package that would deal with israel, water crisis, ukraine, taiwan and the has to move to the floor -- border crisis, ukraine, taiwan and that has to move to the floor and will need a continuing resolution to keep the government open and i would like to see that. we would see what else. we have to be prepared if there is any of the but if we can get those done, will be in a good place. host: you would be a yes vote if you can get concessions on those? guest: without knowing the details, i will -- i think the power democrats to make sure

movie is a good direction is to support a bipartisan passport and i'll be with the democrats -- bipartisan path forward and abu the democrats. host: the president to talk tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern time about this package. 60,000,000,004 ukraine -- 60 dollars for ukraine, 40,000,000,004 taiwan, israel, and the border. guest: i'm prepared to support it but will be briefed on it. definitely the right to subject matter. the president announcing 100 billion in aid to those in gaza. he brokered a deal with each of to allow aid to come in to gaza. are you in support of the financial health to civilians in gaza? republicans have called this aid to hamas. guest: let me say it would

happen in israel is atrocious. i stand with israel. every right to defend themselves. at the same time, we know there was innocent people in gaza. i really think israel is in support of, and each of us in support of this human attorney support going into gaza -- and egypt is in support of this humanitarian support going into gaza. host: were going to invite our viewers to join the conversation. what is happening on capitol hill with the speaker election race as well as the israel hamas war. i guess this morning lois frankel , appropriations committee. democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002.

you can text us at (202) 748-8003. include your first name, city, and state. you can join on next with the handle@cspanwj or facebook.com/c-span. what have you heard about the house today? went with the proceedings look like? guest: you look at someone who knows no inside information. i'm not in republican caucus. democratic suspect will be called in at noon. i expect another roll call vote for the speaker. i anticipate it is not going to get any better for the republicans. i joined those who call for bipartisan path forward. that is the way we can get through the next month. deal with some very important policy issues. then we will see where it goes.

host: terry in massachusetts. met democratic caller -- democratic caller and will cover the house chamber when they gavel in at noon eastern time. watch live coverage at c-span. let's hear from you. caller: i'm calling because the republican wave through mcclintock on the show when the claimed peaceful, antiwar demonstration to usurping the united states government violently like the trump republicans did through the insurrection. i'm just nervous about going forward being a fascist mini country now. host: when i asked if he was equating the two, he did say, no. david in georgia. independent. caller: ms. lois, i just had to

listen to tom come on here and talk and that was awful. it was some of the awfulness speak. he compared gaza, in terms of a fascist so it makes -- what do they compare to -- that is how deep the conversation went. if you could answer this, remind all the women that are working together to get this country going straight. three words. every day. who causes abortion? i wish you all can get the votes for jeffries and get this over with. that would fix it all. guest: i'm not sure what the question was but i did not hear the guess you had them before. when it comes to access to legal

abortion, my position is clear. i think i speak for most majority of americans. the decision of whether, or when to grow start a family belong so woman and not to be interfered with politicians. that is simple concept we should live by. it does concern me there are folks like the current nominee for speaker, jordan, has proposed a nationwide ban on abortion. host: so your republican colleagues opposes nomination for speaker, one of them being the chair of the appropriations committee, republican of texas. why do you think she was oppose? guest:guest: i can tell you whas been going on this year with appropriations. again, it appears to us,

democrats on the committee, the whole process was taken away from the leaders of the preparation committee -- appropriations committee. she was not involved in strategy or planning. i would think that would be one of the factors. you have a jim jordan who voted to keep government close. i do not know if he ever voted for appropriations bill. it would be very anti-to -- what she's trying to do, which is to fund government and take care of people. we may have a difference of opinions but i really have found her a fair-minded person that i enjoy working with. host: she had support from other appropriators who also, 120 for her on the floor, but also --

one voted for her on the one voted for her on the floor but also voted no for jim jordan for speaker. guest: one that stands out is bullard who i serve his subcommittee on foreign affairs and i've had talks with him. these appropriators understand the importance of what government can do for people. in case of foreign operations, with a means for around the world and really to have someone like jim jordan -- if he could, for the drain. host: craig in alabama, democratic caller. your question or comment. caller: yes. thank you for taking my call and thank you for your service representative frankel. i was calling because i know democrats want to be the grown-ups in the house. would you are at this point -- which you are at this point. i think maybe you could try to nominate a republican like liz

cheney. i really like -- i do not like all of her policies but i think she has integrity to bring the house together. i think you would be able to get a lot of support. host: what about that strategy? instead of nomination speeches we have heard for hakeem jeffries that democrats nominate a republican like liz cheney. guest: the best person for the job is a came jeffries. that is who is going to get my vote. just keep in mind from a practical point of view, we understand this, it is going to be a republican majority republicans choose. it is unlikely liz cheney would be on that list. host: joe in michigan. republican. caller: hello. as far as the congress goes, you guys are a bunch of little kids

in sandbox that cannot get along. your ratings are in the drain. as far as hakeem jeffries, you have to go back and look at what he was doing in college. another thing about npr news and israel bombing supposedly of the hospital, that is a bunch of crap. why do they keep spreading the propaganda? these protesters in america. host: there's a lot there. did you go to the intelligence briefing held on the hill this week on israel hamas war? guest: yes. host: is there anything you can share with us? guest: no. i hear the anxiety in your voice. on the israel situation, i want to make it clear, speaking for myself and i'm sure quite a few

of my colleagues, i stand with israel. it is frightening to me this information that is being sprayed especially on the internet, the lies that hamas is projecting, and its allies. our intelligence here, national security council, has come out and said from what they have seen, so far, it appears israel was not responsible for the bombing of the hospital. if you look at past practices, it is not what israel is about. the bottom hospitals. -- to bomb the hospital. israel has a right to defend itself and we should give israel time and space to try to limit hamas. with that said, i am a grandmother. i have great compassion for innocent people who are suffering. a lot of us do. that is why the president reached an agreement to get this humanitarian support enter gaza.

-- into gaza. i hope it can get in as soon as possible so there is not more innocent suffering going on. i think you talk about is playing in a sandbox. that seems messy. i will tell you for most of us, we understand the necessity and urgency to get a speaker and get on with the business of the congress. i want to make something very, very clear. i will not use the crisis of the moment, the reason to vote for someone like jim jordan, because that will just mean more crisis in the future. host: timothy in d.c.. independent. caller: good morning. thank you for this program. good morning to you congresswoman. we keep hearing a narrative from

the republican side about democrats joining eight republicans who host the speaker -- oust the speaker. can you explain in's simple terms how that could have occurred? did democrats actually vote against mccarthy? is there a procedural way in which democrats -- zervos automatically -- their votes are automatically counted? host: i would jump in to say the former speaker kevin mccarthy blamed democrats. guest: that is a good reason why -- democrats voted for hakeem jeffries. we did not vote against mccarthy. we voted for the person that we thought still think is the best

person for the job to lead the house of representatives. we had voted for hakeem jeffries many times now. i'm not sure if it is frowned 1 -- round 18. we are voting for the person we think is best for the job. it was a republican and i think eight of them that wanted mccarthy to vacate his position. they brought that to the floor. we had an opportunity to vote for who we think should be speaker. democrats voted for hakeem jeffries. host: but the vote was to vacate the chair? democrats voted with republicans? guest: that is correct because we believe jeffries should be the speaker. host: elaine. caller: earlier, you had said what we would do in terms of

advising israel. i want to put out i stand with humanity. we must ask president biden reach out and offer peace. i believe we would be marching directly into world war iii if we continue with this israel has the right to defend itself. host: let's get a reaction to that. guest: i believe in kindness to humanity come into cells if you have a good heart. hamas is an evil terrorist group. it is their mission to destroy israel and wipe israel off the face of the earth. we can see what happened two weeks ago. they mean business. israel has taken the position that there will be no peace if

hamas is allowed to thrive. i want to add something to the last caller because i think i misunderstood what he was saying. democrats voted to vacate mccarthy because we had found him to be very untruthful partner in progress for the country. he reneged on probably the biggest agreement which was what our budget will be going forward into the next year. quite frankly, if you would see what i see every day, in terms of the policies that he was promoting and committees on the floor, there is no reason for us to give him our stamp of approval. host: amora in florida. caller: hi. can you hear me? host: yes, we can. caller: it is sad it was going on with the house on both sides

of the aisle. we cannot call the kettle black because both sides of the aisle, we do the good, the bad, and the other. it will have it in israel is shameful and it is sad because it hurts both sides. my husband keeps telling me it is kind of in a way good they have not found a speaker of the house yet. they're not come to terms because they really need to regroup as people that voted their to help us, constituents, we voted for you to be there. i feel there's a lack of respect to the people of what they want. it is just so bad three you guys are not kings and queens. your representatives to help the people. guest: i hear your sincerity of your voice.

thank you for calling in. i think -- i know we have been talking about a crisis in the middle east and ukraine and congress but for most americans what they are dealing with his costs that are too high for them to live the way they desired to live, paid that is not high enough. this is what democrats are fighting for, lower cost, better jobs, protection for women to access reproductive freedom. that should be our mission. we need to get our house together so that we can move forward on policies that will do that. deal with the crisis of the world. host: sierra in d.c., democratic caller. caller: thank you for your time,

but with you on the program created a couple days ago someone called in and said he was and is really -- israeli, and dissolution will be one state in in this is we help palestinians and israelis create a country where they live together free of religious role. i'm curious about what your thoughts are on that about trying to make a peaceful country where religion is not ruling and also, what is the plan for ruling if hamas is eviscerated from the gaza strip? guest: very good questions. just prior to the brutal hamas terrorist attack in israel, the united states was on the way to broker an agreement with saudi arabia and israel and move forward on a more peaceful, unifying presence in that region.

we have what is called the abraham accords which we have seen has allowed israel and other countries, uae, bahrain, to increase the economic prosperity. prosperity. it is a good idea to have the countries in that region working together for peace, economic prosperity. in terms of israel and the palestinians, i think most people who are aware of the situation are still calling for a two state solution, very challenging now, but our goal should be all human beings should live peacefully and have opportunities. all the children should have an opportunity to have education and grow up to reach their dreams. right now, it is a bad situation. i think the focus right now has

to be for israel to eliminate a terrible threat on their entire existence. we get the humanitarian support to gaza and work towards peace. host: is a two state solution possible with current ownership for both the israelis and palestinians? guest: the palestinians really do not have any leadership at the palestinians really do not have any leadership at all. only in name. i think there are some who would be critical. he is not my favorite but i will say it is not the time in my opinion to be criticizing the leaders of these countries. right now, israel is in crisis and i think his focus has got to be to remove a threat and then to let the people of israel, they will have an opportunity to

decide what direction they want to go in. host: in texas, independent. tess. caller: thank you for being on. i want to say this is a very non-popsicle time. unfortunately, -- the ultra maga really taking things back. aced to be a republican. i still hold to some of those values. my issue is weeks to be so bipartisan. i urge democrats from the other side, i understand you're very supportive of hakeem jeffries and ultimately, in the situation i think he is the most qualified to be the speaker yet are you keeping an ear open to something more moderate republicans to find a solution where everybody can be happy? guest: thank you.

i also hear in your voice your sincerity. i want to tell you with sincerity, democrats believe the path forward is through bipartisan effort which would mean, at least on a temporary basis, for us, a republican speaker who would agree to bring certain things to the floor. let me just say this and add to this. talk about jim jordan. yesterday, i was stunned in speech to nominate him when there was a -- admission he must've got social security, medicare, medicaid, through the most important -- he wnats to gu t social security, medicaid, medicare. there the most

important. so we are not going to agree any speaker they put up but if we can find someone -- even a caretaker for the next 45 days, get through some of these very trying times, the crisis overseas, the need to continue our government open, democrats are going to be open to doing that. host: congresswoman lois frankel thank you for the conversation this morning. we will take a break when we come back with continue with our conversations we have been havg all morning. the race for speaker on capitol hill and the international story of the war between israel and hamas. there are the lines on your screen. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ >> monday watch c-span series in

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c-span.org/podcast. >> "washington journal" continues. host: we are back with more fun because coming up here in a minute on the race for speaker on capitol hill, the house slated to come in at 12:00 p.m. eastern time. i gavel-to-gavel coverage on c-span begins at that time. jim jordan, according to reports will still seek the speakership. a third round of voting slated to occur. cnn just reporting that it is uncertain he will go forward. they also are saying the vote could happen soon. also happening today in washington, president biden will give a primetime address at :00 p.m. eastern on the israel hamas wart, expected to talk about the

100 billion he is seeking from congress for israel, ukraine, taiwan, and u.s. border. marvin in michigan. democratic caller. your thoughts on the stories this morning. caller: my thought is i not impressed so far with the tactics he hakeem jeffries is doing. if hakeem jeffries has a plan to get liz cheney on the phone, offer her the speakership. say i have 200 hobos for you. all i would need is another five those for 217. put her in the speaker. they're not going to agree on the lot the policy but the most important think they will agree on is saving our democracy. along the democrats are not going to put the team jeffries

as he speaker the house. the republicans would never allow that. that is a good plan planned and i think they should implement that. host: marvin thoughts on what happens next in the speaker race. melanie of cnn and reporting on eggs that some of jim jordan's opponents tell me they have been purposely staggering. no votes over multiple ballots, a strategy designed to show jordan speakership opposition is only going. -- growing. that is what people are expecting if there a third round of voting today and that is why they tell me jordan would need us more support on the third ballot. republican of florida put out a statement saying last night that the tactics of jim jordan have not worked. if we move to a third round, we already know the opposition is on track to grow. it is time for jordan to understand this race is over.

jennifer, capitol hill reporter tweeting out jordan tactics did not work on me," she has some preventative human is who has been in opposition to jim jordan. i became more cemented in my position he told her. now by being threatened, i am hispanic, i am a qb and you do not do that to us. other members have been threatened. absence of don bacon's wife receiving threatening and ominous tax. steve womack says his staff being cussed out on the phone. jim jordan putting out a tweet last night saying no american should cost another for their families. we condemn all threats is our colleagues and it is imperative we come together. he writes stop, it is important. don in texas -- donna in texas.

republican. caller: i did not know jim jordan had been -- i thought the way he argued of some of his arguments was a lawyer. host: you can be both. caller: he can be both. if he is that strong supporter of trump, i do not want him. i do not want to tromp back into office. i did not care how much money he raises. he is to keep it for himself to maintain his -- gop making a huge mistake if they put him in office. i would like to see nikki haley or even mike pence. especially nikki haley. as far as the house speaker, your first democratic caller on this round suggesting that hakeem jeffries go to -- host: liz cheney.

caller: yeah. that is a good idea. i like the idea. i want a republican up there. it is our turn. we have the majority. i was happy with kevin mccarthy. i think he kind of got -- he went to nancy pelosi. i heard them say this in a speech -- him say this in his speech. he said the main guy, the eight people, matt gaetz, he wanted the condition for him to be speaker was the put that back in the house where they could bring -- get rid of him.

that was the first thing that nancy had done away with. he went to her and asked what do i do and she said give him any think he wants and worry about it later. she knew when she said that and he did that that this would happen. i feel like he was set of. host: ok. tony in new york, independent. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. are we still talk about the israel hamas war? i see it on tv. host: yes. caller: i was there in 1958. they hated each other then and they were hated each other now. it is a religious state. with that in mind, peaceful coexistence is probably the best scenario. why doesn't netanyahu -- he was warned that those restrictions to ease off and

he is going to have severe problems. he went ahead and he did not change his policies. he did not ease off on his restrictions. this is what happened. to see biden hugging this guy. it makes me kind of feel. --ill. host: president biden with reporters on his way back from israel yesterday and he spoke briefly to them about the need for humanitarian aid for those in gaza and israel. [video clip] >> there are people all over the region upset and do not believe you or the israelis they did not have anything to do with it. >> i can understand in this circumstance but i would -- notice i did not say things like

that unless i have faith in the source of which i am talking about. our defense department says it is highly unlikely that it was israelis . that is why if you notice at first -- i want to make sure that i knew. i'm not suggesting that hamas liberally did it either. -- deliberately did it either. it is not the first time hamas has launched something that is not function well. i do not know all the details. i do know the people at the defense department who i respect the intelligence committee i respect, it is highly improbable israel did that.

>> is israel operating within -- host: president biden talking to reporters. the headline that the reporters were referring to this morning in the wall street journal, muslim world angered after explosion at the hospital in gaza. protests widespread according to the wall street journal and other newspapers this morning. ruth in michigan. democrat caller. host: -- caller: we are in clear and present danger right now. one of our embassies was attacked yesterday in lebanon. all this rhetoric about who should we elect for speaker the house. when every politician -- i do

not care if they are democrat, republican, or independent, gets voted in and takes an oath, they take an oath to the united states of america. not a political party. all of you guys better get your heads out of your backside to remember our country is getting ready to go to war. attacking an embassy is an act of war. host: our right. ray in michigan, republican. good morning to you. caller: thank you. inkster taken the call. -- thank you for taking the call. lately i've heard on television is about the war in israel. it will happen the war in the u.k.? why are they concerned about

other countries? joe biden was elected to be president of the united states. congress. everyone else. they ignore. we have an invasion in the southern border. they cannot even take care of a problem here in your own country. why would they send a bunch of senile people over to another country that has -- even know what he is talking about -- the has the read cards to even know what he's talking about? host: linda. independent. caller: good morning. i would like to address the israeli hamas conflict. it just seems to me that the united states we are sitting in the driver seat right now. where biden is going to go on tv tonight and ask for 100 billion to help out in the war over

there amongst other things. it seems to me that finally someone needs to go there and say to these people, both sides, palestinians apparently been living in deplorable conditions. things like this did not just happen for no reason. it is time somebody went over there and said we got all this money for aid and to help out hamas. when this is over there needs to be a two state solution and you need to agree now. we are sitting in the driver seat of all this money and eight were getting ready to unleash over there. i think there needs to be an adult in the room and when this is over say this is how it is going to be. it needs to be equal and equitable for both sides.

then enforce it. host: if you had the president announced yesterday that there will be 100 million aid to palestinians and egypt has agreed to open up the border to get aid into gaza to help the population of 2 million in the strip of land? linda, are you there? caller: yeah. but it is just a powder keg over there. they cannot agree is 75 years to me to become an adult in the room and get it settled over there -- there needs to be an adult in the room and it assaulted over there. we have the leverage right now because were going to unleash all this money and supplies. militarily and humanitarily for the palestinians. host: we read it reporting

earlier in of the requests to congress in that supplemental package the president is expected to talk about tonight is 60 billion for ukraine, 40 billion for israel, taiwan, and the border. russell in blue springs, missouri. republican. caller: hello. host: meet your television. caller: i just did. my question is about the nominees for speaker per year only two nominees and 20 votes for others. there's only two nominees. mccarthy does not want to be speaker again. why did they have that other? host: as an option? caller: yes.

there are only two nominees. jordan and jeffries. there's people that is voting for someone that is not want to do the job. host: russell thoughts they are. in about 10 minutes we will say goodbye on the "washington journal" and at 12:00 p.m. eastern time, the house is expected to gavel in and we could see a third round of voting nomination speeches and then voting would occur. democrats likely to put forward he came jeffrey's as they have all along. he has secured 212 votes. it is uncertain if jim jordan third round and if he is the nominee, does the opposition to him grow? anthony in florida. independent. let's hear from you. caller: hey, good morning.

i'm going to talk about the speaker. but first i want to get a kudos to the news look. beautiful set. i wish the desk will be dr. culler. -- would be a dark color. as it relates to the speaker, i really wish they called the house there in, driven building -- the raven building, the people's house and i believe the people should vote for who we want for speaker the house. once they came to round one, it was the decision. we the people. all they had to do nominate who they wanted and let the people vote as we should be voting for our supreme justices as well. thank you. see you later. host: jeff, indiana.

hi. caller: hello. thank you for taking my call. i think what we have in congress is symptoms of a larger problem. we have a national problem where all of us voters want to be vertically oriented to a party -- politically oriented to a party and we need to get away from that. in many callers on the show today they offered of the fact that there ought to be cross party voting and cross party participation and cooperation. both of the guess you had on this morning were eloquent but they were very strong one party people. i do not think the democrats are the problem at all

finding someone in republican party can fit their needs and only would need to get a handful of those to get the speaker pass but not one of those people can break party rules. yesterday, in indianapolis star, congressman sparks mentioned that if she cross the speaker's path which was mccarthy she could be primaried out. our congressman, men and women in senators -- and senators are hand tied. they had to follow party rules. voters today need to become independent voters. we need to break away from party politics. our founding father, george washington, historians consider him the greatest president we have had. he was an advocate of not following political parties. it is a political party system

that is broken our system and our nation. that is all i have to say. host: barry in new jersey. republican. host: hi. caller: hi. i just want to say i think the democrats made a huge mistake by -- maga -- he's the first one to allow amendments by both parties and they put everything into utter chaos with matt gaetz and there is no remedy for temporary speaker pro tem to be speaker of the house. host: who do you think should be speaker as a republican? caller: representative thomas massie from kentucky.

he is mr. constitution. he's going to do with the constitution tells him to do. host: robert in greenville, north carolina. independent. caller: good morning. . my biggest problem is just donald trump. donald trump is the party. republican party does not do what donald trump was to do. until everybody figure stepped out, where she slowly going downhill -- that outcome we are slowly going downhill. host: justin, a republican. caller: hi. thank you. i'm a big fan of "washington journal" and you and your associates do a superb job of leading the discussions. i want to comment on the israeli hamas war. a few points i would like to make. i remember bill maher made a comment i thought was well put. he said if the palestinians lay

down their arms, we would get a piece. if there is -- israelis lay down their arms, we have an annihilation. it seems that the palestinians definition of peace as they can launch rockets and kill israelis and israelis are supposed to do nothing in response. of course, that cannot work. you have to be without a heart to not feel for the children through no fault of their own are killed. as i recall, the israelis captured gaza during the six-day war and give it back to the palestinians about 16 years ago. now, hamas has been the government there about that period of time.

hamas is dedicated to the destruction of israel and post any adults who allow that to be the government have to take responsibility. to love us to be a government -- to allow this to be your government, you government brought you what was predictable. as much as i feel sorry for the palestinians, maybe they might want to try for the benefits of peace rather than the benefits of war. that is my point. host: connie in tennessee. democratic caller. caller: yes. i also appreciate y'all's program and all of y'all. your wonderful. my question. the abraham fund. if there was ever funded -- if it was ever funded because one of the first project set to include upgrading checkpoints in israel from palestine

territories. was any of that ever done? secondly, has trump compromise our military especially did a navy fleet -- the navy fleet by carrying nuclear secrets about our submarines? host: your first one is a good suggestion. we can't and i think we have on the "washington journal" if you go to the website c-span.org and find conversations about the abraham accords and what were the details, the proposals put forward under the trump administration. were going to leave the conversation for now on the "washington journal." the house will be back at 12:00 p.m. eastern time. watch our gavel-to-gavel coverage on c-span, our free mobile video at c-span now, or online at c-span.org. ♪

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