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it reads int the court has long held equivalent common law ethics rules. the body o rules derived from a variety of sources. including stalt torrey provisions. go to say advisory op issued by the judicial conference committee on hi practice, the absence after code, however, has led recent years to the misunderstanding that the justices of this court unlike all on this unrestricted by any ethics as rules. misspell this misunderstanding. they are issuing the code which largely represents a codification of principles we have long regarded as governing our conduct.

looking at matters of the supreme court. heading over to the house of representatives, expected today, stopgap measure bill. which is the deadline in four days. expected to vote on that day. several republicans have expressed concerns over the text expressed concerns over the text they spread support on the house side and senate side and you can comment on either of these topics, whether it be the government possibly shutting down and running out of money in four days and the code of ethics from the supreme court as well, 202-748-2000 or

202-7488002. and if you want to text us, you can do it at 202-748-8003. comments on either of those things and post on social media, too,@ facebook.com and on x there, too. one of the people when it comes to the matters of the supreme court and the release of the code of ethics, it was on the senate floor yesterday senator dick durbin, the chair of the judiciary committee spoke about the release. some criticisms he had of it and here's a part of what he had to say yesterday. [video clip] >> at a glance the standards of the supreme court are those that apply to all lower court federal judges. the code of contacts sets fourth cannons of conduct including holding integrity on independence of the judiciary and avoiding the impropriety and appearance of impropriety.

all of these are important steps. but they fall short of what we could and should expect when a supreme court issues a code of conduct. the code statement specifically notes, and i quote, for the most part these rules and principles are not new, end of quote. that's a problem because the court's previous practices were plainly inadequate. the court's new code of conduct does not appear to contain any meaningful enforcement mechanism to hold justices accountable for violations of code and leaves a wide range of decisions up to the discretion of individual justices including decisions on recusal of sitting on cases. i'm still reviewing the court's new code of conduct and for now i'll note the court's adoption of this code marks a step in the right direction and may fall short of the ethical standards which other federal judges are held to and that's unacceptable. if it falls short, the american people will ultimately have the last

word. and the integrity of the court is an issue. we are going to carefullily review this proposed code of conduct to evaluate whether it complies with our goal the highest court in the land not languish with the lowest standard of ethics in our federal government but this release today long overdue begins a dialogue which could end in restoring the integrity of the court. c-span.o, hannah: that was senator durbin. you can see it on our app. and the comments on the code of ethics for the supreme court yesterday and perhaps if you wanted to comment on the government running out of money in four case, the numbers 202-748-8000, democrats, 202-748-8001 for the republicans and 202-748-8002 for the independents. joining us now to walk through what was

released yesterday and what it means for the court and the future of them, greg stohr who covers the supreme court. thanks for your time. hello, pe. host: how does this affect the day-to-day for the court? day-to-day for the court? how does it operate day to day? guest: the top line, this is not new and a codification of what they've been doing. so there is no review system. system whereby the court as a whole reviews the conduct of one of them. they continue doing what they have been doing. host: did anything in the text revealed to you about how they operate, especially when it comes to those ethics conversations the court has gained attention for?

guest: honestly, no. they had released this statement of ethical principles back when the chief justice was invited to testify and that explains here is what we do. this code along with some commentary says the same thing but in a different form. instead of saying here is what we do, it is here is what we expect ourselves to do. that is perhaps the advancement. but primarily, you know, what is notable in this document is what it does not contain an that is any enforcement mechanism or complaint system whereby somebody from the outside can file a claim. and whether some of than the court itself or the justices themselves will review that. host: does the lower court have

any type of mechanism you spoke about? guest: they do. there is this body called the judicial conference that sets policy, except for the supreme court. there is a system. it is multilevel where if there is a complaint, it can go to the chief judge in the circuit or the district and from there there is a system by where a panel can review something. there are disciplinary measures that the conference can take, short of impeachment. there is none of that in the supreme court therefore impeachment would be the ultimate sanction. but there is not that internal mechanism. host: we saw senator durbin make his criticism from what was released yesterday. what is the likelihood democrats will continue on in their pursuit of more when it comes to this topic? guest: i would expect them to.

you heard him say the beginning of a dialogue and senator whitehouse also described this as a first up. a lot of outside groups are not satisfied with this. they point to that lack of enforcement that i was speaking about. i would certainly expect there to be more talk about that. the question that we cannot answer is whether this will quiet the din. whether this will take the air out of the efforts to get the justices to up their ethical standards. host: what are you looking out for in the days ahead when it comes to the topic of ethics at the court? guest: we know the senate judiciary committee has been trying -- is talking about subpoenaing some people on the outside, like the person who has

been a factor of justice clarence thomas. we will see where it goes. we will see if there are new revelations about this. in terms of the process, i would not expect more out of the court. i think for the foreseeable future this is the court's final word. host: greg stohr covers the court for bloomberg. thank you for your time. guest: you are welcome. host: when it comes to this potential shutdown in four days potential shutdown in four days be today in passing that short-term bill the new york times reporting hakeem jeffries said in a letter to fellow democrats that the leadership was "carefully evaluating the proposal and remained concerned about the bifurcation of the continuing resolution. the proposal did not contain the policy provisions that would make the plan a nonstarter with

democrats but it failed to make progress on aid to ukraine and israel. the white house has been critical but president biden declined to weigh in on whether he would veto a plan if it reached his desk." will you can call and let us know. (202)-748-8000 for democrats, (202)-748-8001 for republicans, independents (202)-748-8002. david in kansas, republican line. thank you for calling and holding on. go ahead. caller: good morning. yor clip of dick durbin -- your clip of dick durbin stole my thunder a little bit but the code of ethics that was recently disseminated admits it is a long-standing code. so, i now see this code as an

indictment of the justices that did not follow the code in the past. the question should be turned to the court -- what are we going to do about the problems the public knows about? host: how would you like to see a resolve to those problems and what problems are you talking about? caller: i am talking about the conflict of interest with alito an thomas, but i do not see the solution of having a board over the supreme court. we have got to trust the justices. but i am afraid with his group we cannot do it. host: that is david. we will hear from sharee in north carolina. hello? one more time for sharee in north carolina, democrats line.

ok. callers, if you are calling in and you want to comment on these topics when it comes to the government shutdown or the code of ethics, call but be ready to calm on when it is your time. the numbers will be on the screen. (202)-748-8000 for democrats, (202)-748-8001 for republicans, and independents (202)-748-8002. here's what to expect today when it comes to looking out for the house. they are expected to come in at 9:00 to vote on the short-term cr that would fund the government temporarily to keep the government from running out of money this coming friday. with republican support, about 50 democrats signing off against. democrats possibly joining on with it as well. some of the details of that woulinude funding until

jaary 19 for topics such as military, construction, veterans affairs, agriculre energy, water, trapoation, and hud. it would fund until february 2 all other agencies. it would extend current spending levels. no changes to that. as the papers and legislators have noted, specifically does notnclude any supplemental funding requested by the white house, including funding for $106 billion for israel, ukraine, taiwan, and the u.s.-mexico border. none of that in the short term bill. on the senate side several leaders expressing support for what is happening in the house including mitch mcconnell,, backing the speaker and this proposal the fund the government

even though it does not include funding of ukraine. mcconnell's decision to embrace the strategy means republican leaders are united leading to the deadline. as a result, there is growing pressure on the minority leader to go along. let's try sharee again in north carolina. caller: hi, yes. host: go ahead. caller: hello? host: you are on. go ahead. caller: hello? host: go ahead and ignore your television and just make your statement or comment please. we will put you on hold while you get that situated. if you go to the huffington post, you heard about what is happening with republicans. democrats also open to that temporary government funding measure from speaker johnson.

it was the minority leader saying in that letter he is carefully reviewing that. hakeem jeffries noting mr. johnson would have staggered agency funding in a more piecemeal fashion. jeff in ohio, independent line. hi. caller: good morning, america. good morning, pedro. as far as the supreme court goes i do not think anybody deserves a lifetime appointment. the problem is washington are so corrupt that once you get in you become corrupt yourself over time. as far as the government shutdown, shut it down. these people are on a spending spree. we are $33 trillion in debt and they are still printing money. we are actually in two wars, whether we are supporting them

or not. we are giving away our own military support to these countries to fight it out. why is the u.n. not over there? as far as ethics, there is no ethics on either side. whatever happened to the ethics department? can somebody turn a light on so we can lock these people up for breaking the constitution? what are we going to do? $33 trillion and we are going to kick the can down the road again. they do this every year. every year they do this. they kick it down the road. we need to hold these people responsible. i will tell you what we should do. we should let them stay in washington and not get paid until they get everything in order. host: let's hear from eric and west virginia, republican line. caller: good morning. you know, you do not hear much about the ethics situation in the supreme court until the

conservatives took charge. you are talking about ethics. i think it would be better if we passed a code of ethics for joe biden, hunter biden, and the rest of the biden family. host: as far as the court, what do you think about this release of a code of ethics? caller: [laughs] you never heard anything about code of ethics as long as the liberals were in charge of the supreme court. it is like the press picks out one republican or conservative and dashes him until the -- bashes him until the public think he is a demon.

host: maryland, hello. caller: i think the code of ethics was long overdue. we never heard of what justice clarence thomas was up to with his benefactors. and at the same time, you know, the republican conference has not even passed a single appropriations bill. speaker johnson is trying to do whatever he could do to keep the government open. once again they need democratic votes even though they are in majority to pass these bills. they have not done nothing and they did not even consider any supplemental funding. so, you know, next year the house is going back to the democrats, they will keep the

senate, and they understand that every time this happens they are failing to do their job. host: the associated press reporting of the supreme court code of ethics saying republicans complained democrats were mostly reacting to decisions they did not like from a conservative dominated court, including overturning the right to an abortion. the democrat backed ethics bill that is percolating would require the justices provide more information about potential conflicts of interest and written explanations about the decisions not to recuse. it would seek to approve transparency around gifts received by justices. the bill has little prospect of becoming law in the republican-controlled house. the other thing is the potential shutdown of the federal government in four days. you can comment on either one of those things. you can also text us at

(202)-748-8003. let's hear from ray in ithaca, new york, republican line. caller: thank you for taking my call. on the supreme court, i support the ethics agreement that the justices have made and i think these are all nine honorable people. i think republicans will support speaker johnson. it only hurts republicans if we shut down the government. all we are doing is giving back pay. let's support this and keep things going and keep working on deals. host: are you ok with passing a bill if it means a good deal of democrats signing onto it as well? caller: that is fine with me. i think we have to work together. that is the only way we are going to get things done. i am good with that. host: that is ray in ithaca, new york. one of the people commenting

yesterday was texas republican chip roy at a press conference on capitol hill. talking about his hesitation to support speaker johnson's proposal. [video clip] >> for the same reasons i proposed the cr on october 1 i proposed as well the cr speaker johnson put forth. they do not want me to continue spending money do not have. the pelosi spending policies and priority and that is what this is doing. we have republicans who opposed that a year ago who are now trying to say that we need to continue that. that is precisely what was put down on saturday, october 1 that resulted in the motion to vacate kevin that following tuesday. we are doing the same thing. it is still a clean cr. the whole purpose of the

bifurcation was to isolate so we can have a debate without letting it get lumped in with the dod and other issues because we need to have that debate. the american people want us to have that debate about how to a secure the border. this is the only real angle to try and pressure secretary mayorkas to do something about it. i proposed the role, adding in the farm bill extension and no changes to chinese ownership of land, no changes to the big ag overstepping small ranchers and farmers. we will extend it until next september. it will get extended again. this is set for another series of dominoes to kick the cannot of dominoes to kick the cannot announcer: you can watch the washington journal conversation in entirety if you go to c-span.org.

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