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other television providers, giving you a front row seat to democracy. ♪host: good morning it saturday, 1/20/2024. a major endorsement for donald trump days before the first primary and an attack in syria which i ran is blaming on israel. we want to hear your top news story of the week. for independents (202) 748-8002, for republicans (202) 7-8, for democrats (202) 748-8000 (202) 748-8003 let us know your name and where you are writing in from an on social

. to the latest on the attacks in syria here is a story from the new york times looking at this issue from a photo at the scene of the attack saying iran blames israel for the attacks. it killed two senior intelligence figures into other members of the force including two a semi offhere is another is scene of the attack. theyccuse israel of launching a missile attack. the chief of intelligence in ■q revolutionary guard force was killed. çthe overseas arm of the guard

supports militias around the middle east including, hezbollah and the houthis. iran is a long time of hamas. in the wall street journal there is an image of a map those conflicts are playing out in the region. you can see here, iran supported militia attacks on u.s. bases and israel is battling hamas in gaza. skirmishes continue in the west bank and yemen launched rockets

towards israel and the u.k. and u.s. forces are respondi t atta. john kirby had a briefing■] about iran's actions. [video clip] >> could you talk about the houthi attacks? what was communicated to the houthi>> i am not come to get io that. there was a practical message delivered to iran. a message was delivered and publicly we have made are concerned about what the houthis are doing

and that they are getting support from iran. this administration has issued 500 sanctions under this administration, iranian sanctions. >> they said the security of the red sea was tied to the actions in gaza. do you have a sp to take it in f pieces, if you look at the the s targeted. sometimes there are multiple ships and you are not really sure about the target. let's look at majority of the attahaship, not a single one was

destined for israel. they were all destined for other ports. the argument that this is about the war in gaza, they are driving a stake through a straw man. as for the resistance continuing, i have said it many times we have national security interest in the region and we have moved additional military resources into the region to protect thosekd we mean what we say. if you doubt it take a look at what happened a few nights ago. host: we are looking for your top news story. some of the stories we have been following are the iowa caucus results as well is the new hampshire primary, the tensions in the middle east and the congress talks about the

border and ukraine aid. the march for life rally politie house committee and hunter biden tion. let's start off in nebraska on the republican line. caller: my top story was a channel with the warehouse discovered that had multiple ofd with diseases. they went in and destroyed the lab and had hundreds of pounds

of things that they destroyed by fire. the americans did, the in charge of this was from china. he and his whole staff. i think the charges against him are minor because i don't think they have anything to charge him with. host: let's go to al in michigan on the democratic line. caller:■q i wanted to talk about the national debt and the budget. the reason i am doing that is my congressman heizinga is going to have a bipartisan debt committee. i have three articles to suggest

to read. increasing the deficit can be traced to gop tax from americans for tax fairness, another one here pro public, the title is donald trump built a debt so big it will weigh down the economy and they have a chart here. the king of debt promised to reduce the national debt and h e oversaw the third-biggest deficit of any president. the republicans are not serious about the debt.

extend the tax cuts. the cuts given out under a trump and it will increase the debt even more. host: thank you for your call. i want to bring upn article ab':3%t that fiscal commission e was discussing which meant in a house panel this■included from d not take positions to protect social security. the committee approved the bill with 22-12 with democrats bringing in some republicans to pass the measure. that would to move forward for a larger vote in the house. rori on

the republican line. caller: good■oning, two things are the border and impeachment. tgoing and every time you catch someone you kick them out. you can process them to get their names. on the i biden and mayorkas. the the 25th amendment could be used to get rid of biden. he is hopelessly mentally incompetent. they can get him out of there and cut that short and then have next step is thomas in hagerstown, maryland on the democratic line.

nikki haley seems to have a problem with people talking about racism and■a slavery. the simple way she should talk about it with her son-in-law. her daughterotball player and td be an easy way to find out. find out whahe ryan in san clem, california. caller: thank you for taking my call. a couple of issues that are lesser known but very, very important. the first one is mr. trump mention thinks about the civil war and it wasn't so bad not bel war abraham lincoln would be nothing mr. president very sensitive about the fact that abraham lincoln is so popular.

you know what abraham lincoln did say you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. the second thing is this post by mike johnson to pushin our country as being over government. we have over 200 denominations of religious believers in this country just and christians. not anyone else, just 200 christian denominations which include jehovah' witness and christian science and the only issue don't believe in saluting the flag or dancing or anything elsethe bottom line is we have o

really analyze that and that is the reason why our country came up with the division of church and state. there should be no commingling betweenappreciate you taking my. host: you mentioned those comments about the civil war and abraham lincoln you think about it? caller: it is god awful he is demeaning the fact that we killed hundrusands of americans in a fight over property rights which it turns out to be slavery's property rights. anyone who had slaves, obviously it was their property. that's why we went through the whole process. we were fighting a war to

determine if human beings were property are not. just like people involved from the beginning of our country we had indentured serv here who had to serve people for seven years and they were slaves and had to do exactly what they had to never got to vote until the 1920's. landowners were the only ones able to vote until the 19th century. demeaning the process by talking abraham lincoln who put our country back together inside people are slaves. host: we had a major endorsement

for donald trump yesterday the former presidential candidate tim scott officially endorsed trump hampshire . three days before the primary. [video clip] >> we need a president who will close our southern border today. ■t". we need a president who unites our country. we need donald trump. we need a president who will protect your social security. we need donald trump.

we need a p who will stop the crime and recklessness in the streets. we need a president who will restore law and order. we need donald trump. president who will lower our taxes and not raise our taxes. we like donald trump. we need a president who understands theri people and sick and tired of being sick and tired. we need donald trump. we need a president our foreign adversaries are afraid of and our allies respect.

we need a president who doesn't see black or white. we need a president who sees americans as one american family. we need donald trump. and that is why i came to the warm state of new hampshire to the next president of these united states. president donald trump. host: next up we have frank in democratic line. are you still with us. ? let's go to jim on our independent mind.

caller: i would like to quote gore■# vidal from a book called the united state essays from 52-1992. i regard monotheism, a single sky god is the greatest single disasteran race. how many of these peoplethey'ree power. host: is that your top news story of the week? caller:in a debate with christor hitchens. he quoted rental terry the great evangelical. gi;not yet but when we come into

power we will kill the abortion doctors and turn this into a christian nation. host: i want to use your point e washington examiner about the march for life that happened yesterday. ahead of that march, house republicans passed to anti-abortion bills on the 51st annual march for life. they p the supporting pregnant women and families act which seeks to prevent health and human services from discriminating■o against pregnay resource centers. the pregnant students rights acts which requires colleges to inform female students of their

rights under title ix if they choose to carry their child to term. let's go to joel in mountain home, arkansas. caller: thank you for coming back to me. the southernr, all of our borders were under control when president trump was in office. he built over 500 miles of border but yet they stopped this when they got into power and sold all this equipment that we had already purchased. there is a bigger picture with this border than people see and i would like to say this. the blue states are now realizing how these immigrants

has a big influx on their taxes, schools and property tax. a comment about slaves, i am an old guy. i had nothing to doi do not thi. it was very unfortunate but even back in the bible days there were slaves. abortion is wrong. taxpayer money should not be used. my choices the child should live. host: is this going to be one of your top issues for the upcoming election? caller: oh yes. these babies, they have a

beating heart in them. i know the women as some of the men involved in this, they have a big lump on their shoulder after they think about what they've done. host: next up, we have in massachusetts on the democratic line. caller: good morning. i want to talk about nikki haley. she talked about the civil war she didn't know what it was all about. slavery was a bad thing but she also said this country has never been a racist country. can you remember that? to a president who was raised in the 1960's. we had to go through the death of john f. kennedy and the death

of martin luther king and the death of bobby kennedy. and then those young students from kent state protesting against the vietnam war. we had the delve of malcolm x we had people like strom thurmond and the ku klux klancrn chicago is going to happen this year regarding voting rights being taken away. we had vietnam and wreturn frome calling them baby killers. we have the cuban missile crisis.

the world could've ended t afresh in the united states -- ded the day. host: next we have joseph on the independent line. caller: now that they have donald trump on trial and they know the ain't doing nothing. don't they know donald trump as above it all? host: do you think the p no, i'. but he is. host: next up we have in erie, illinois on the republican line. caller: good morning, finally got through. bear with me just a second if you would. as 17 i joined the navy because

they tell me how pretty the polynesian girls were. host: what's your story of the week? caller:■ñ trump's win in iowa ad the people who support him have been described as peop and nicole. people whoook at the border who wod say it is terrible and people w look at the schools, this is terrible. all of these things that biden has done and the democrats will not condemn it. at 10 million people coming across the border and sath'sorrible but if a democrat is promotingbefore yout want to say how trump is

winning. we are not a cult. trump bluff sauce. i am a three tour vietnam veteran. our children today don't know who rockefeller is. the man who turned oil and ns it into kerosene. the democrats called them the robber barons. if it had not been for rockefeller we would just be like the arabs. host: i do want to follow up on his point about the border.

is an article here that lawmakers see hope and bipartisan talks about the border in dfra aid with mitch mcconnell saying a deal on border security could be on the floor next week. that was after congressional leaders had that meetingnext upr democratic line. on our democratic line. caller: why is america so dumb? the issue is racism and that is what it is. we just have to come to that understanding. host: next up, chris in michigan

on the republican line. caller: i just want to talk about the supposed systemic racism that goes on in this country. i think it is a bunch of baloney. if we were such a racist nation wide we have millionaires like oprah winfrey, barack obama? all of the thousands of sports out there? if we are so successful in making millions of dollars? that is all i have to say. host: forbes.com addressing this issue looking at the race of millionaires in this country saying the vast majority of those 62 millionaires had wealth

between one million and 4 million. for african-american millionaires the number is growing but lower than other ethnic demographics specifically black people represent 8% of white, 8% are asian. that does not line up with the demographic distribution of race in this country. next we have david honor democratic line. caller: good morning c-span. i just want to make a comment. i happen to read this section of the 14th amendment and my understanding does not indicate

they were talking about the confederacy of the civil war. they were talking about people who could not be and i believe tom should not even be on the ballot. people have to read the constitution especially those sections and they would get a better understanding of why trump is of the trouble he is now. host: now this look at anh commt we received via text ro f storys don't care they are supporting a man for president who has been coicted of sexual assault and is a reflection of their own moral character. next up we have donda on our

independent line. caller: good morning america, i voted presidents. i vote for the content of people and what they represent. do you remember during the said he trusted the russian security apparatus more than the american apparatus. this man is not fit to be cruz, this man assaulted ted cruz, his wife and father and he

went around and kissed his ring. this man is a con artist, a crook and he has been doing this for years. host: next up ray on the democratic line. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. host: what is your top story of the week? the top story is the iowa caucus. it's the direction the country is going in and we will be changing parties in power. i would remind all of your listeners that abraham lincoln was a republican.

the civil rights act of 1964 and voting acts right were passed by of many democrats called dixi ecrats.■.,] if our country has0 million people there are evil people in our country who don't have good hearts and souls and those people are racist. i don't think any country in the history of the world has done more for the equality and benefit of all people in the united states. i am so proud to be an american. i am so proud to be a believer in jesus christ and i believe our country is going to get better and that our country is going to do more for more people. but the real question is the one that john kennedy■f

asking with the country can do for you. start asking what you can do for the country. feet and make your way through life. that is your obligation and most of all, the black family is the most important thing in the black community and anything that can be done to support the family unit, that is where it all begins. host: we are looking for your top new story of the week. we are following the iowa caucus in thease in middle eastern tension. the white house and congress passed a funding bill. also, there are ongoing lks on the border in ukraine aid. the march for life and the rally

on abortion politics here in washington. the house gop and hunter biden ongoing discussion. next up is david in berkeley, south carolina that last gentlen talked about the civil rights act. i encourage people to read about the civil right acts thatere sponsored by dwight eisenhower in his conservative attorneyhowo longer fight them and jumped on the bandwagon when he became president.

i called about abortion and i wanted to second that a woman is not born with i come from? the father. so it can't be her body. she wa't bornit wide chromosome. what person has two heads and two sets of sex organs? those are two separate people. reason they can't be the same body. host: i'm confused are you referring to abortion or trance rights? s rights?

caller: the fact that a baby in the womb is a■e baby. the blood of the baby and the mother cannot mix, they are ly separated and the placenta is used to exchange gases and nutrients between the baby and mother much like how a baby cycles and the baby nurses the mother. host: i'm going to pause you there because we have a clip from that march for life. republican chris was one of the speakers at the march and here is some of his comments. >> we reject the violence of abortion"

started the baby to death. we are greatly encouraged and filled with hope and resolve. lives are being saved. we have setbacks here and there but we are undeterred and we will not give up. at least 25 states have statutes that are in effect or being litigated to protect life. we have abortion until birth but we won't quit in new jersey to try to overturn a that was passed by her governor. two new important p-life lawmad the house. we are working for the babies. ■-tragically president biden has

politicized to aggressively suppor■■t abortion on demand including a full court press to get taxpayers to pay for it. host: next up on our louisiana line. two things i have heard oni think women shouldeir own b. a woman who has been raped, they should be in charge of their own body.

host: what was your second point? you said you had two stories? caller:ee with the guy that said donald trump should not even be running. he should be in jail. host: thank you. next we have james on our democratic line. caller: good morning. host: what is your top story of the week? caller: in the 80's in the mid

80's. host: next up on a republican line. good morning david. caller: i'm here. i got to talking before the bell. i want to make two comments about nikki haley and the civil war. for one thing her comment about the civil war and what caused it. i want to give her some space on that. slavery was global. it was brought to the u.s. i the early 1600s but it was brought here by the europeans from the west slave trade. no one talks about the east

african slave trade. they still had legal slavery until 1924. the civil war did not start over slavery, it became about slavery. if you look at his inaugural speechconvince his staff not toe the union. those states did not secede until blinken called for a truce. -- lincolnáç called for a truc. the first half of the inaugural speech was to try to convince the staff you don't have to leave. we will do anything to stop slavery.

there was something called the corbyn amendment. one of the concerns of the southern states was they were concerned that congress would pass a law that would with the legality of slavery so they came up with the make sure the slavery would never be changed. host: what is your top new story of this week? caller: people keep talking about her comment in the beginning of the civil war. there is a lot of ignorance about slavery. racism was presented but it was everywhere not just the south. this court amendment would have guaranteed slavery.

they did not need to secede to protect slavery and lincoln was going to guarantee the legality. host: next up we have edna. caller: i don't kn how begin cept for nikki haley. that is a very■í important commt from someone running for office in this countr yes, this is a racist country. i have lived from one end of this country to the other. my father was a tuskegee airmen

and i know that tuskegee airmen were a result of roosevelt's wife having push the concept that we african-americans are capable of operating complicated machinery. this is a racist country because of the manner in which groups of nonwhites have been treated since day one. our indigenous people were relegated to that were unprofitable for whites to live in. our asia population was limited from the west coast for fear of

being overrun by chinese and japato detention during world war ii. as opposed to those on the east coast who should have feared germans coming over. that is my comment, thank you. host: several folks have reference nikki haley at a campaign event and manchester, new hampshire. she disputed claims thata0 ports incorrectly. [video clip] >> i have seen the commercials you have seen and watch the rallies that they show on tv. i have listened to the media and what they have to say. vtwhat i have seen is through these temper tantrums, donald

trump is telling a whole lot of lies. but if he is going to lie about me i will tell the truth about him. [applause] he h wanted a border wall. what i said is, i don't just want a border wall i of those other things to secure our border because we have to do more than that. then he turned around and said i wanted to take away people's social security. i have never once said that. what has he said? raise the retirement age until 70. and he did this in 20 18, proposed a gas increase of $.25.

■o talks about the economy under donald trump. it was good but at what cost? he put trillion dollars of debt. our kids will never forgive us for this. ask an accountant, you don't run up the credit card to have a good economy. that's no different than depleting to feel good about our gas prices. you don't do that. you ma sure that you build up the economy. this decision you are making on tuesday is the decision to decide dwesame or did we want to forward in a different direction? [applause] host: next up we will go to

joseph in new york on the independent line. call good morning. first of all, i would like to say why is it talking about the endorsement of tim scott for donald trump? host: we played a clip of that endorsement. caller: it is my opinion and i am an ind voter in new york. all 29 electoral votes go to the democratic national committee. them. that is been that way forever. my dad said my vote doesn't count but when it comes to the presidency and you are a resident of the state of new

york all of your votes go for the democrats. being an independent, my vote doesn't really matter in the state of new york when it comes to the presidency. i am hopeful for tim scott. i am hopeful that trump takes him as his running mate. i would not vote for trump but i would vote for tim scott. host: would you be in support of new york doing what other states do by allotting electoral votes proportionately? caller: i would be open to that but were talking about the state of new york and how it is been going on for over 40 years. host: next ste have jim and hardy, pennsylvania. caller: how is it going?

my commonns i can't understand e no negotiations. when you leave yourk it. i have nothing against immigration but legal. they say been an uptick with illegals with tuberculosis. people come to our country and they are not all asylum-seekers. we need to shut the border down. we need comprehensive laws, like the dreamers. ns but we need to shut the border down. host: less oppositely in kansas on our democratic line.

the biggest story as the dow hit all-time highs. thank you president biden. oil also an all-time high at h. we all remember the donald trump saide earlier saying that biden would crash the stock market and the first day in office he would drill baby drill. we already have 13.3 billion barrels. host: what's up is mike in detroit, michigan.

-- next up is mike in detroit, michigan. caller: my biggest issue is voting. host: are you saying aren't people did not attack the capitol building? caller: of course they didn't. president trump one is to take over the government of the united states but that did not happen anymore than the ■ebedwetting russian collusion. they knew they were false narratives in the used those false narratives. they used it to occupy with the

military. they used is to instigate mass surveillance, mass incarceration , the massive show trial. they are still doing it. they can't win the election fairly and this is their tactic. do you know what the reichstag fire was about? host: i do know that there were thousands of people, many of them aren't attack the capital. caller: there were extremists that attacked the capital. that has been proven over and over again. this is like a fantasy world. it did not happen.

disagree based on the video evidence. roy and west virginia. -- lloyd in west virginia. caller: my subject is the deficit. the last time we had a surplus was with bill clinton. i am not a democrat and i am not going to vote democrat, i vote for trump. if they want to know where the money is going is to the government itself. they are bloated and they have too many people and you had a young lady on about a year and she worked for the government and she said only 20% of the people in the government do the work. you have a lot of people there and we could get rid of half of

them and never miss them. that is the big thing i think. i think trump would help the country and he will get the deficit down. bill clinton was the last man in their who had any surplus. host: next step is rained out the democratic line. -- reyna on t■3 democratic line. caller: i want to talk about trump at the iowa caucus. ) in a place like that and heard that, i would've walked out.

i want to say something about these peo who are against abortion. a lot of these people say they y reason to get an abortion. if your wife or daughter or granddaughter and it was a life or death situation whi■och you want to be in a state where they could not get one because us the law? i want them to think about that. host: next up we have larry on our independent line. ca down the volume on your television? larry, can you hear us? we are going to have to go to the dave in berkeley, california. caller: before.

the science clearly show a medical school5p aea that life begins at exception, fertilization of the egg by this firm. e sperm. if the blood systems of the mother and baby makes there will be a rejection reaction. the reason body. host: i think you made your point earlier so we will ended there. ■swe will get ready for our next segment, elections in taiwan are putting renewed strain on the already fraugh relationship so we will take a closer look with mercatus center researcher

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side of your screen when you hit play. the timeline tool makes it easy to quickly and easily get an idea of what was debated a decided. scroll through and spend a few minutes on the points of interest. >> washington journal continues. host: welcome back. we are joined by weifeng zhong, a senior research fellow at the mercatus center. so taiwan recently had a new election, can you explain the stakes, who won, and why it is important? guest: the stakes are always very high because a hot issue, increasingly so between the united states and china. the fact that it is remarkable taiwan and the taiwanese people have been choosing their leaders for decades now, more than 20 years.

that is a remarkable achievement on the side of the taiwanese people. and also that becomes problematic for beijing because t■5 that the chinese people have the rights to do. that is what creates a thorny issue between the two. host: who won the election and tell us about them. guest: the new president elect is from the same party as the current taiwanese president. and the party, the democratic progressive party is more pro-independence, but less inclined to build a closer relationship with the mainland. that is the opposite of the dominant party who has been in power for decades after the world war. the second of -- the sentiments

of thean mainland and closer to the western world. host: the pressure you are talking about, there is a lot of pressure from china -- from to go in a different direction. and they rebuked that. guest: china has an incrvtive to move the island closer to the mainland for the reason that if beijing feels the need to really force reunification, it wl be easier to do that. and most of the people feel that why it is getting harder. what is most interesting is that even the fact of having an election in taiwan is not something even covered in domestic media in china because of the fact that taiwan, the ccp always tries to motivate or rationalize its rule of the country by saying that democracy does not work for the chinese

people.■ea g for the chinese -- for the taiwanese people and they are very similar. that makes this issue high-stakes and veryfd interesting. host: what was the reaction of the united states and china to the outcome of the election? guest: the reaction from beijing has been the baseline, they would say that taiwan belongs to china and the standard talking points. but more so to the outside world. the chinese authorities do not talk to the chinese people about elections in taiwan that much. that would emphasize the fact that they have democracy in taiwan. the rea standard from the u.s.. we did not see the american president calling up the president-elect of taiwan like we had eight years ago.but prest to say that the united states does not support taiwan's independence which drew criticism and comments from --

in many ways. but, i think it is also unusual for a u.s. president to deliberately have to say that we do not support the independence of taiwan. that might appear a little weak in the interviews of many who support the taiwanese people's right to have an election and taiwan is pretty iependent. host: it also might be confusing for americans who are not following the issue to heare uns congratulating this pro-democracy president-elect but at the same time does not support taiwanese independence. can you explain in more detail what the u.s. policy is when it comes to taiwan? guest: that is a great question because the u.s. official po towards taiwan is called a one china policy, which says that the united states recognizes that there is only one china

i8■/across the taiwan strait. but the united states also recognizes that the interpretation of one and then our stances to say you guys figured out easily, as long as fine and we are not explicitly saying it either way or supporting it either way. beijing has something similar but very different. it is the one china principle that says that taiwan belongs to china, mainland china. and i think when u.s. leaders say -- and use the word one china polic the public because it sounds very much like the one china principle that beijing wants to use. host: that is confusing. ■h÷to your point about the unitd states wanting to maintain the status quo. antony blinken was at the world econom ridley -- and

reacted to the taiwanese election and talks about what it meant for u.s.-china relations. here's a portion of the remarks. [end video clip] -- [video clip] >> in taiwan we see a powerful affirmation of democracy, something that we congratulated the people for. and something that has been consistent now over many years. and that is the most important thing. interest and the fundamental interests of countries around the world is to make sure maintained in the taiwan straight. any differences between beijing and taiwan are resolved peacefully. that one of the hallmarks of success of the relationship between united states and the ee united nations has been the management of the taiwan issue. and the premium that we have had

-- and what we have had is maintaining the status quo. allowing people from taiwan to know ever better lives and to be remarkable contributors to the global economy, which they are. but to maintain the status quo and to not take steps that would in any way disrupt it, especially when it comes to use of force. that is not only our position but the position of country after country around the world. there is money -- one very great reason for it. 50% of commerce goeshrgh strait every day. if that were disrupted it would affect the entire planet. that■a is the last thing we nee, especially coming back from covid. second, semi conductors and manufacturing capacity that taiwan has, that affects every person in this room and almost every person around the world -- around the room from the smartphone to the dishwasher to the automobile to everything

else. so as small as it is, by its geography and extraordinary ingenuity, taiwan plays an outsized role in the world. that is why so many countries have a stake in preserving peace ends debility. ing, it is comfort -- it is country after country. everyone has the same interest. [end video clip] host: secretary blinken laid out quite a few of the key ways that taiwan contributes to the global economy. can you talk a bit more's role l economy and how that shapes the way that the u.s. participates in the debate? guest: taiwan has been much more important in the glover dutch global commerce in the last 20 years. for the reason that taiwan has been doing well but also in particularly the high-tech sector. like theecrery mentioned

taiwan is the center of the semi conductor industry because no matter what type about, the semi conductor chip is the most important, it is like the brain of a computer. no matter what device it is, the design is by u.s. companies and then it ll sent to taiwan and then put together by the taiwanese companies. and that piece, that little and very delicate piece is sent back to the united states for assembly and it gets into our day-to-day lives in the use of electronic devices. and the problem with that is because taiwan is such a leader in manufacturing globally, it means that everything comes and goes through taiwan, which makes commerce in the region so important. and the problem with that is if

china ever attempts to take taiwan, that would disrupt tando the beginning of covid when we had the mi conductor shortage. that was not because of any war in theegion. multiply that by 10 times or maybe 100 times, which is why sustaining peace in the region is verimportant. we can debate about how to sustain peace. the u.s. approach has been to say we are not supporting either side and you guys figure it out. so keep them guessing has been the u.s. strategy. it is called strategic ambiguity. problem is that beijing is more and more ambitious in terms of taking -- retaking taiwan and that puts a lot of pressure on whether the ambiguity strategy still works and i think it does not. if you have christ -- if you have questions for weifeng zhong, of us a call at for debit

-- 202-748-8000 free democrats. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. if you want to text us, that is 202-748-8003. forum, china's premier spoke at davo's leaders and did not address the taiwanese elections but complained about unfair trade practices. can youween the u.s., european union and china, particularly in those areas of high-tech and clean energy? guest: what the chinese premier refers to as unfair trade practices are the sanctions particularly in the high-tech sector on china put together by the u.s. and its allies. but if you ask any trade

officials, anybody in the u.s. or western countries they would complain about unfair trade practices that china has because that has been the center of dispute ever since china joined the wto. the problem here is that a lot of the tech about including thei conductor are more oftentimes called dual use sectors meaning that the semi conductor chip produced can be used for innocent purposes like computers in cars, but they could also be used by the military sector in china. a lot of chinese companies are technically working for both. its own profit and then also the purp in -- often includes military ambitions. that concerns stern countries and that is why countries like the u.s. have taken actions on sanctions. that prompted china to say that is unfair for us. of coue military ambition is unfair to

the rest of the world. host: speaking of that particular meeting, china had a veryix■#what is to be made of tt especially compared to previous years? guest: it is actually quite typical when a chinese premier takes office in the chinese economy has been having problems. i see this initiatives like this as salesmanship where the chinese premier is basically like the ceo of the country. so every time he goes out he is occasion. the business case has gotten weaker. they stopped even publishing the they recently republished the data and it is just as bad as it used to be. the problem is, i think the communist state has put more

pressure on the private sector in china. so the incarnate -- so the entire - entire economy is losing its dynamism like what we saw when china was relatively more free. host: orange, massachusetts. independent line. good morning. caller: hello. i was just wondering about the preparedness of taiwan with military capability or the united states forming a bckvcade and almost the style of president kennedy with the cuban missile crisis when it comes to protecting the interest of the area. also, having a policy in the u.s. that would basically restrict china from stealing intellectual property and protecting democracy in the asian regions. host: so preparedness for a military blockadend then protections for intellectual property, what are your

thoughts? guest: on the first one, trying to blockade taiwan has been the primary plan that beijing has when it comes to retaking taiwan. the problem there is that taiwan never be able to defend against china and it has to rely on help including fromhenited states and other allies in the region, japan, south korea and more. the problem is that helping taiwharder than say ukraine defd itself against russia because the island is hope -- is so hard to sustain supplies from outside the region. but it is so easy for china to cross the strait. so i think the military task is very hard to accomplish. which makes it evermore important to be able to deter china from doing so, because if

that does not happen that is a bad case scenario for us. blinken referenced strategic ambiguity. because that was our way to deter chinaefore. it was enough to keep beijing guessing. i think now it is not enough to keep beijing guessing. and i think because china has been more ambitious. the way to tip the balance is to part and western allies'n the parts to help taiwan more clearly to send the message out. i think it is not an act of provocation, it is an act of rebalance and deterrence. host: what about the question on intellectual property? guest: the way to grow for china is to steal their way to the top. i think china has done well the global economy and a lot of

technology sectors. i think it is a very because on times the intellectual property theft conducted by beijing or through legal means business collaborations with american companies and then they figure things out. host: so business practices. guest: that is part of the unfair trade practices. it is hard to do given how intertwined the u.s. and chinese economies have bee host: a question from kevin, a republican from milton, delaware. "what historical claim does china have to taiwan? guest: the civil war of china ended afecond war war, around 1948 or so when the of china, which is now in

taiwan. they just left and route -- retreated back to the island. and so in the sense of the civil war, it never really technically exist.because the two r what is the mainlines -- mainland regime and the other is the taiwanese regime. there was never closure. were always unilateral claims on the others and it is same for the taiwanese platform because for a while they hadhe d china. beijing still claims taiwan. host: once again if you would like to aionship with taiwan or its role in the global economy. democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans at 202-748-80018f. independents, 202-748-8002. let us hear from mike in philadelphia, pennsylvan. yes.

the previous caller we can hear. caller: the previous caller on military preparedness. alliances, especially south korea and japan. as u.s. power is extended around the world, what sort of relay at relations does taiwan reach out to the strong powers in stage -- in east a -- asia? and how would that change of they pursued that as a provocation. guest: i thinks deterrence is the strongest when united states works with its allies. for example if we think about ukraine and russian invasion, putin is the most turned when

sanctions are implemented by not only the united states but also with allies. the is wise to try and work with our allies to put more pressure on beijing, that is way better than me saying that taiwan has the right to be a democracy and china does not have the right to invade. the message is always stronger with allies. host: mike. philadelphia- let us go to mike, philadelphia. go ahead. sorry. let us hear from jeffrey on our independent line. sorry about that. caller: it is not your fault. and get paid by the -- host: do you have a question about taiwan? caller: yes. i do not know.

i am worried about the united states. i served my country and who is sitton waiting by austin -- he was sitting and wasting my host: let us go to frank, cincinnati, ohio. on the republican line. caller:ou for taking my call. help me out here because i'm trying to understand. and that was an independent nation when the group came across and took over f said whau doing here, this is our island? expand on that bill the -- expand on that before world war ii,? host: deeper into history. go ahead. guest: before world war ii, the

island was called formosa intha. the chinese regime before world war ii was not called the people's republic of china like today. it was called the republic of itory included not only mainland but taiwan. they lost the civil war with the communist party, so then the entire old chinese regime retreated and concentrated only now to the main island of taiwan of the smaller islands around it. but that did not end the regime of the republic of china. even today taiwan is technically called the republic of china. it is just at the map of the republic of china only has the island of taiwan. the mainland china became the people's republic of china.

host: jesse in florida on the republican line. in morning. caller: yes. i have a question as to the policy that wefy have, the one china policy and taiwan not being an independent country. it sous policy says that taiwan is a part of china. and what that is is a civil war. i cannot understand how we have any business being on one side or the other for a civil war. i think the whole thing is about semi conductors. we need to build those in the united states. i do not understand what our policy is. can you explain to me what one t independence means? host: it is confusing. guest: let's look back in time wherein the 50's and 60's the united states had a diplomatic

relation with the republicwe evy with taiwan which said if the communist states try to retake taiwan, the united states had the obligation to defend taiwan. that is what led to the first crises because mao's a dog had some doubt about how serious the united states was. he tried to bomb some of the small islands to just test how much stronger the u.s. commitment was. at the time was very strong, so strong that united states sent the uss midway which is w permanently at san diego. at the time the aircraft carrier wasn't surfaced -- in-service and went to defend the island. if we think strategic ambiguity

and say that there is only one taiwan but we are not taking a side, that has been a remarkable change from having the treaty to defend taiwan in the first place in the 50's. i try to understand it as the context of the change of u.s.-china relations. the united states for a long time had been wanting to do business with china. and the way to do that is to say let us move away from taiwan at least a little bit. that is the context for what eventually led to the growthd th in taiwan and china being such a big player in the global economy. host: where does that does that treaty stand now? guest: it is gone. it recognizes the p.r.c., the mainland side. we are leaving the taiwanese issue not pressed upon to say we do business on -- in china.

and taiwan figure it out but please keep the status quo which is not what beijing is willing to do. host: ted is in good morning, id that we are speaking on this issue. i am out here in hawaii in the it has always been baffling. but we do need to support taiwan. theyavand they fly in the same s that they fly in in terms of politically. d i think it is important that we keep taiwan taiwan. and it is most important. host: thank you for your comments. i want to actually ask you about , so much of our attention is focused on the middle east. how do you think the two conflicts compare not only in national attention and national

securityguest: so many different conflicts. we should keep our eyes straight on the biggest one which is cha. i think china has become increasingly the most important threat in torrent -- in terms od states because china has fundamentally deviated from the past that it used to be on what it joined the wto, which is to focus on the economy and on integrating itself into the western world. mentally deviated. it has the ambition to dominate regionally at least and then potentially globally. that puts a lot of threats on everything that we believe in in this world which is democracy anchina is trying to disrupt evy single aspect.

that is very important for the united states. and what it implies is that we should not focus just on these issues that we mentioned. i know we have ukraine and israel in the middle east, but on a brighter note, one good thin of doing these types of crises is to remind ourselves what it takes toe ad to respond to potentially any disruptions. it has been hard to support ukraine. think about it if -- on a much larger scale. i mean ready in every sense, not only militarily but strategically. host: also in social support.a henry in fort deposit, and -- alabama. democratic line. that morning. caller: good you can go ahead, t make sure you turn down the volume on your tv. caller: sure.

host: what is your question? caller: i would like to make a statement and ask if it is true, during the or -- early0's, the japanese was overrunning china, china was states. and then the communists came in and 1948 and pushed the king off of the mainland into formosa, which is now known as taiwan? am i correct? host: yes. ok. thank you for that extra bit of history. leus go to phil. delmar, california. on the independent line. caller: good morning and thank

you for taking my call. it is a grim question but one that i think is important. especially for someone who is a scholar in the subject such as yourself. just, you believe at this point in america's history that taiwan is the most vulnerable that it has ever been in recent memory? given the current former policy position and learshipav that, unfortunately, taiwan is most susceptible to an attack from the chinese government? guest: that is a great question. i know we have talked a lot about the military side of things in cross strfnt relations, but let us think about the political side which is very long time taiwan and to a lesser extent hong kong, have been a problem for the ccp because narrative and legitimacy matters a lot even in language

of how the communist party frames the rule in the country. because for a long time they have been telling the chinese people that the reason we have communist rule is because democracy does not work for us. ■and the communist party can led to higher growth. and that has been pretty convincing in the 80's and 90's because china wagrg fast. which is why both taiwan and hong kong started to become a problem for beijing because if we look at taiwan today, it is not only a fully functional democracy where people have been choosing their leaders for■ñjy years, but the taiwanese economy is also one of the world leaders in many ways. ■÷rand that basically busted the chinese argument that says democracy does not work for us. because everyone in mainland

china can look to taiwan to see that it works. in terms of being able to justify the communist rule the ccp is in its most vulnerable time. and we need to also add that on top of the fact that president xi jinping has not had any big achievements domestically in terms of the economy. that increases a lot the chance of china attempting to take back taiwan. host: leo in lowell, arkansas on the democratic line. caller: good morning. in not the war or political side. gathers a lot of information from taiwan because of all the technical equipment that china is that taiwan is able to produce. you know, electronic stuff and all of the stuff that is

patented. i think that china is 70% more interested in gathering information from countries like -- and keeping their fingers sort of on the wire that goes under the oceans and learning about the million grains of gathered information. they do not seem to produce their own new ideas. taiwan seems to produce new ideas. ■0u very much. i appreciate you. guest: thank you. that is right. a key part of china's foreign policy in many ways is intelligence. china has done well and what is called the open source intelligence which means that by even just collecting public information one can learn a lot about any other country. and that is what the chinese strategy has been on the united states. they have been using all of these ways, particularly all of

this information on the internet to learn about the regime. that has achieved a great deal a little attempt of spying or espionage. host: i guess we give up our own information for free.i want to r work on the policy change index. what it is and what itells÷s about the year ahead vis-a-vis china economically and geopolitically? guest: the policy change index project is exactly along the lines of open source intelligence because it basically collects and analyzes data in the form of natural language in chinese propaganda. we have been harvesting what is in print for the people, which is the main domestic facing

to analyze what beijing is thinking and what it plans to do. a little bit over a year ago our capabilities to -- detected a shift in terms of emphasizing its military power. and that turned out to be preceding these disruption such as sending planes to taiwan or disrupting the sea routes. all of these aggressive actions that china takes towards the outside world, there are signs to them leadi up to it, even from the domestic press. that is what we see and that is what we did see over the course of the last few years, china because they talk very little about the outside world. every time they talk about the western world, the language was very negative. host: folks who want to have a look at that can go to policy

look at his work on that. let us go to steve, columbus, ohio. democratic line. caller: yes. isn't it correct that taiwan called formosa was under the control of the japanese empire for 50 years to 1945, and what kind of economic relations does taiwa it is true. japan invaded china including formosa during the second world war. which makes it very interesting now, seeing not only japan but -- and taiwan coming closer but south korea coming closer. both south korea and china and e victims of japanese invasion during the war. now all of these countries are coming together and recognizing

that china is the bigger threat. and like-minded nations and democracies and allies need to work of communist china. host: next up is amended -- is our caller from illinois. caller: three quick questions for you. i notice china what direction and percentage do they have and why are they buying so much of our debt? secondly, what you feel about china only land in the united states and buying more land? and we hear that the chinese are coming across ■>the border, is t a major threat to the united states. we have heard that china also has in several of our coastal states their own government. what are your feelings? host: let us hit those one by

one. first of all the national debt and what percentage of the national debt is being held by that mean for the u.s. economy? guest: i do not see china holding debt as a problem because it represents really that there are a lot of investment opportunities in the u. e and other countries including china wanted to be a part of it. the money wants to come in because in the united states economy investment yields high returns more than money being sent elsewhere. for chinese investors they will have more return in the u.s. economy than the chinese economy, which is not doing well at the moment. that is not a problem per se. only -- owning agricultural land, especially those places close to military facilities. because very little is known

about what was the intent and what they were doing in those properties n facilities in the u.s.. host: that was one and two. number three was the news about chinese citizens crossing the southern border to the united states. guest: i think there a lot of the foreign citizens crossing the border into the united states illegally. ortion whether those from china really is a significant threat among those from other south american or central american countries. the border in general is an issue because it is not secure. i think one could advocate for a freer immigration system. but they have to come to the country illegally, they cannot just cross the border without any legal status. i think that has been a problem and that needs to be addressed in the u.s. and washington, not just because of those from

china, but those from everywhere else. host: the last caller we could get to would be mha democratic line. caller: good morning. mr. zhong, do you think that when putin took crimea in 2014 that that emboldened xi jinping to say well i can take taiwan? and how close are jeezy paying, -- xi jinpi■!ng, putin and the north korean leader. guest: when putin took crimea it was easier than ukraine. i do not know whether back in 2014 it really emboldened xi jinping because at that time he was just coming into power in beijing. it wasefore he was able to consolidate power and carry out

his own plan. he is watching now, and i am sure he is, how t wit's got to e confidence somehow because putin is not doing we are nearly two years in and the war is in sort of an impasse where no side is really having the upper hand. and i think that puts a lot of pressure on how capable china really is in trying to retake taiwan because china really did not have any formal military conflicts since 1949, really. the chinese military is not really tested in that sense. host:he has a senior research fw at the mercatus center at george mason university. thank you very much. guest: in 30 minutes we will hae

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house -- the whiteou and congress are continuing their talks on the border and ukin aid. and president biden signed the short tour -- short-term funding deal to prevent a government shutdown. on friday there was the march for lifely and the ongoing debate over abortion politics in the u.s. and another big story that the house gop and hunter ■ñbiden agreed on a deposition date and the framework for that. let us go to your calls on the top new story of the week. dave in ohio on the republican line. go ahead dave. caller: hello. i think you left one choice out of the top news stories of the week. and it should have been a top new story for three years. it is the incursion and invasion literally of the southern border of the united states with 6 million illegal immigrants. host: i am glad that you brought that up because we have a clip

from speaker mike johnson speaking to reporters after the meeting on wednesday regarding the discussions over the border as well as other things. [video clip] >> thank you for being here. we had a productive meeting, i think, the house and centimeters -- leaders. the president was very forthright. and i have stole him what we are saying, that we must have substantive policy change at the border. documented 64 incidences where the president took executive action or his agencies took action to create the current catastrophe that we have. it is a national security and humanitarian catastrophe. and i articulated that to him in the meeting. we understand there is concern about the safety and sovereignty of ukraine but the american people have the same concerns about our own domestic sovereignty and safety and security. about the necessary elements to solve the problem.

we passed the bill and it has critical elements. it is the rest of end -- the remain of mexico, the end of catch and release. we are not insistent on a pa name, but we are insisted that the elements have to be meaningful. the house is ready to act but the legislation has to solve the problem and that is a critical point. we understand the necessity about ukraine funding and we want to say that the status quo is unacceptable. we need the commander-in-chief, the president of the united states to show strength on the worldness. we cannot continue with the current status quo. we understand the importance of what has been meted, but when i met with president zelenskyy before christmas he said that the necessary ingredient is the proper weapon systems. there are certain things needed to ensure that they can prevail. we need questions answered about the strategy and the end game

and accountability for the precious treasure of the american people. important, but we must insist that the border be the top priority. i think we have consensus and everyone understands the urgency. we will continue to press forward. i would like to thank my colleagues and the cirre and i e for the time of day. [end video clip] host: next up is jim on the democratic line. what is your top new story of the week? caller: i would like to address the supreme court of the united states. and w took is to defend the constitution against all enemies. looking at trump's past actions and his intentions for the future, if they cannot see that trump is a threat, they are turning a blind eye

deliberately. his most recent assertion that total immunity, even if he crosses the line, that is a big red flag. thank you. host: thank you. next up is ron in denver colorado. ca: i wanted to mention the uvalde report. and the myth of the good guy with the gun saving the day. and how all of these police eves responsible and afraid of this six on -- this guy because he had an ar-15. these kids could hear the cops in the hallway for over an hour. they hollered at a little girl

and they got shot when they asked if there was somebody who was in the room. it is sad. host: thank you. here is an article from cnn referencing that report that ron was discussing. "the department of justice found that the uvalde school massacre could have been stopped sooner. had many opportunities as the 2022 school massacre in uvalde texas was to reassess their flawed response that left 19 children and two teachers dead. the u.s. justice department concludes. a burst of gunfire reports a teacher had been shot and then a desperate call could and should all have prompted a drive to stop the bloodshed sooner the review says. instead it took 77 minutes from when the 18-year-old into robb y school until he was stopped.

the carnage remains among the deadliest episodes in america's ongoing scourge of campus shootings." next up is rick in new york on the democratic line. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you very much for having me. and thank you so much for this program. it is the voice of the people. and the nation, and they are grateful for you -- they are grateful to you for it. host: thank you for calling in. caller: my issue and solution, rather, to the border issue is -- has been detailed recently -- recently by the president of ecuador. the gangs and cartels in his country , asking for help from the u.s. and getting support for the u.si understand. that is the quickest way to solve our own borders solution

and create our own borders solution. by preventing the gangs and the cartels from utilizing their countries as their own territory for business. if they get help from the u.s., it will be a wartime solution. but, it will be a lot less than fighting other wars around the world. and frankly, if we do not help those people, they w u.s. and continue to march to the u.s.. i would and you would and everyone wouldchildren to a plae united states because we do have some semblance of unity and love here. they do not see y of that in their country. so, i would support, and i think

the country would support helping presidents like the president of ecuador to declare war on the gangs that are destroying their countries and forcing those families to run to the united states. thank for letting me say my piece. host: thank you. i was trying to find the department of state because they havees that ongoing war between the ecuadorian government and the drug cartelse department officials but also law enforcement officials to try and investigate some of the retaliatory murders that have been going on as a result of that ongoing conflict. next up, christine in michigan on the republican line. caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. it is good to see your face this

morning. i was calling about the right to life thing that i heard a small part of yesterday. and speaker johnson was out there talking. and there was one gentleman, i do not remember who it was. lord, jesus christ being the creator and sustainer. an that this particular group would look at those children on the southern border that they are so worried abt getting into our country and realize that they are like our children. they are children of god. and we need to think more about that when we are trying to do these policies and take into consideration these precious babies. and also the ones in the middle east that are being so terribly

abused. and thank you for taking my call, i appreciate it. god bless you. host: thank you. next choctaw, oklahoma. on the democratic line. caller: yes. i nted to bring up the issue of jim crow, some of the things that nikki haley said about america is not a racist country. i want to grow about the state when i grew up in when segregation was law in oklahoma. where everything was separate. black-and-white, water fountains, restrooms. you couldboundary in oklahoma c. i mean, how can you say that america is not a racisth it.

my coworkers who i worked on the job that were democrats and barack obama became a nominee. they could not vote for a black guy so they all went republican. that is why you have this donald trump guy that was pushing this whole narrative about obama was not an american. here we have the same guy running for president that most of our so-called democrats that have gone republican will share statements with republicans. obama became a nominee and most the people that i worked host: thank you, i appreciate your call. jim is in pioneer, ohio on our line. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span.

p news story is about gaza and funding for israel. i am not anti-semitic, but the people running the government in israel are way out of line. as it is now, i wish joe biden would say, we areng that $3.8 me it to rebuild gaza because we know you will not. if you go back, they are bombing the buildings on the surface while terrorists run in their holes. we are going to have to cuthout. president threaten israel was h w bush around 1990. he did not have to do anything. he jus threatened to cut their funding. they got right in line. for a minute, they stopped building the settlement on the west bank. host: jim, do you think this issue is enough to change how you might vote in the upcoming

presidential election? caller: i am unwavering. i have been a big supporter of joe biden, even though i am an independent. i feel i am partially responsible. every president since h w bush has supported the -- it has been i see israel abusing the palestinians. host: next is jerry in new jersey on our democratic line. . good morning caller: good morning. one of the comments i have thaty made during campaigning in new hampshire. i think it is going to hurt her terribly. that is one of my stories. the other is fani willis, the story in georgia. is talking about that today. i think that is going to hurt the democrat party, too. boy, how it ■thas turned aroundn

her. coming after trump, now she is the one that is going to be the criminal, really. host: can i pause you for a moment? do not hang up. not familiar with that particular story. here is an article in the washington post oubasically, tha prosecutor in the trump case paid for flights with fani willis filing shows. this is the ongoing conflict period the lead prosecutor in the interference case against donald trump parried for at ast two airline tickets -- paid for at least two airline tickets while the investigation was underway, according to bank statements filed in his divorce case friday. the bank statements may cooperate and prosecutor nathan wade that they have been engaged in improper, personal relationships.

the statements were part of a filing by lawyers for wade's estranged wife in an effort to compel wils toestify in the divorce proceeding, which he district attorney saw to avoid in a separate filing on thursday. it has been mentioned elsewhere th neither wade nor willis have directly addressed the allegations. a spokesman for willis said any response of court filings will happen in court. we do not know what the purpose of it was. attorneys wade did not respect -- respond for request to comment. . this is the story that you are referencing. caller: part of the story is the fact that she hired three prosecutors. i think one made $68,000, the other made $70,000 and she paid this guy $650,000 to prosecute trump. this is going to be a major

problem, too. the other thing is, i do not know how it is going to affect the trial. i understand she is the prosecutor,■ient to■4 the white house three times. there is some coordination there. anyway, that is one of my situations. i think it is a big story. i think it is going to become bigger. i think it is going to prove trump, you know, comments that he is definitely being prosecuted and persecuted. this do not help. thank you. host: next is blake in prairie, mississippi on our independent line. go ahead, blake. caller: i want to say one thing. i veountry. one thing i did not like nikki haley said, a lot of americans view this as a copout. ■geverybody cares about their on tribe. that is the reason why if you are not with reparations for african americans, something is

wrong with you. are a racist because this country has gave billions of acres to europeans, have not given black people an inch. sending drugs into our neighborhoods, when people come into this country illegally, they take jobs from us first. they want african-americans to be the bottom of the barrel. why we got to pay for education? why don't we have free education? that is because they want the uneven playing field. americans only worry about their own family and own race. america was in spearman to see if peoplcoogether -- was an experiment see people could live together. it is all on the backs of africaer next is tim in west virginia on our republican line. good morning, tim. seems like we can't quite get to me yet. let me give it another try.

tim, can you hear us now? caller: i was wanting to discuss about the abortion situation. host: caller: women's got to get their body, their right. if they die from terminal illness, they do not have the right to have a doctor in their life. they can consider it theirthe ko discover the cure for cancer and other diseases. if a man was to get his girl pregnant going into having an abortion is■ó charged with two murders. it does not make sense. host: ok. thank you, tim. next is bob in wisconsin on the republican line. go ahead, bob. caller:■ probably, the economy s

still the number-one top story. if you remember when barack obama took office, it was $now,n debt. that is 25 trillion dollars. the country spent $4 trillion n on covid with biden. that puts the grand total at $16 and $4 trillion for republicans in our debt. somebody, please answer me that question. where do we spend all of that money? $16 trillion since obama from the democrats. $4 trillion from republicans. that is the facts. host: are you counting the bipartisan covid funding in both the trump and biden administrations as democrat or republican spending? caller: that was american spending. that is why i excluded it from the grand tally. there trump,

bipartisan, the entire country needed it. there was $2 trillion from biden. the country needed it. that was bipartisan. that is $6 trillion that we spent on covid. that left ove$16 li and $4 triln from the republicans. host: ok. speaking of the economy, there were new consumer sentiment numbers out this week. here in the washington post on the front page this morning, americans are feeling sunnier on the economy, that optimism is up again in the consumer poll, that consumer sentiment, a window into the nation's financial mood dump -- jumped in january to its highest levels since 2021, reflecting optimism that inflation is easing. cording to the survey -- since november, consumer sentiment has risen parking the largest two month increase in more than

early years.■>/ gas prices often a key driver of sentiment have fallen 40% since june 2022 just over three dollars a gallon. weekly jobless claims are at their lowest levels in a year. consumers felconfif we go over t journal, who also covers this issue, it says these numbers are a shop -- sharp turn after the pandemic's destruction and fears a recession was around the warner damper on feelings about the economy in recent years. despite solid growth and consistent hiring, now, americans bucking up as inflation cools on the federal reserve signals that interest rate increases are likely behind us. let's go to more of your calls. leonard is in danville, virginia on our democratic line. go ahead, leonard. caller: yes, ma'am.

only one block guide that work -- [indiscernible] we went to shut down for summer vacation and he was working on the line with contractors that came in. what is your top news story of the week? i missed it. caller: it was about the racism. host: comments. caller: yes, ma'am. he was working on the line. he was on this latter. at the bottom of the ladder, there was a box. he opened the box up. the guy had kkk in it. [indiscernible] you can either close the box top . u can quit. ok. at the end of the day, -- host: so, you racism to this

day in the united states. caller: still, there is no black host: ok, thank you for that story. next is darrell in shepherdsville, kentucky on our republican line. go ahead good morning. i just heard that last call right there. ■gpeople -- the cost of living s high. the gas prices are high. people are coming across the border to get our jobs. joe biden knows what is going on. people say gas prices might be low. wrong. they are as high as they ever were for anybody. if we had president trump right now in office, none of these things would've happened.

people got to look at what is going on here in the united states. we are losing jobs. cost of living is high. people can't afford to buy cars or houses or anything. we have got rdnew york city. they come across the border. the problem is going to get worse. it is getting worse. host: oliver in california on the democratic line. go ahead, oliver. caller: hi, thanks for taking my call. thanks for c-span. you know, there was previous callers talkingi was listening t endorsed trump. it was absolutely embarrassing. ]whe was saying how trump will bring the country together. i just do not see how anybody can believe that.

you know, trump -- talk about false narratives. trump is saying mexico was going to pay for the wall. all his stories. all of his bankruptcies and corruption and trials. i mean, i just think has crasher republicans, both bush's, 9/11, republican administrations, iraq and afghanistan■■r got started under republican admits rations. covid, under republican administrations. i think the republicans are a disaster eveelected. the only person i see who is not peddling false notice -- false narratives is bernie sanders. as americans, we should stop bickering about these little issues, divisive issues, and we should get together education

and affordable housing and all of the things we agree on, instead of just going after each other. that is all i have to say. host: thanks for your call, oliver. next is ethel in louisiana on our democratic line. go ahead, ethel. caller: good morning, i have three points i would like to make. host: ok. caller: first, what would bepro, women and gircisions with theird their religious beliefs. two, i have a complaint with washington journal. hello? host: yes, we can hear yo i am a complaint with "washington journal." i noticed there was a difference when jen psaki was the press secretary and you were airing her briefings and when karine jean-pierre, her position as the

press secretary. i am not getting any airing from her. so, is there partiality between the two press secretaries? host: you will be able to find those briefings on c-span.org. but, goñ2] ahead. caller: ok, well. i watch it on my local directv. pull it up on my internet. number three would be when trump said he could shofth avenue andd still follow him, he -- people are following him in spite■=as d and all of the things he has proven. i would say that you all, pay attention to trump's supporters. thank you. host: thank you for your call and all the other colors, it is all the time we have for those for now. comingis just days away.

after the break, we are going to head to the manchester, new hampshire for a preview with paul steinhauser covers politics for fox news and the concorde monitor. first, we spoke with new hampshire secretary of state david scanlon about candidates filing to run for president in the states primary. here is some of that interview. [video clip] >> when we see the candidates coming in, signing up to be in the new hampshire primary, giving you $1000 for that honor, where do they do i . it is such a privilege to be the person that they come to meet when they come in. you get a true sense of what they are like when they come in here. get a sense of their personality. into this room and right here, we have the historic desk, at one time was owned by representative stephen bullock, who back in 1913 wrote the

presidential primary law for the state of new hampshire that we should hold a primary. he, i think, would be shocked today if you knew that he actually created a tradition that withstood a century of time. anyway, we have this roll top deskhat we bring in here. the candidates stand at that desk and signed the paperwork. they hand over their $1000 filing fee. if it a candidate, typically, this whole room is packed with the national media. it is a very, very exciting be. >> this is not a big room. how many people can you get in here? >> i think we break records every four years. [laughter] 50 people, maybe? >>ey have to file in person/ >> they do not have to file in person. somebody else drop off their

filing. however, if they wait until the last day of the filing period, if we have not received their li then, they must show up in person. >> and most do. >> almost all of them come here because it is just a great event. they have media attention, they have a chance to address the nation their paperwork here, we take them to the inter-office where we have a conference table set up and the new hampshire reporters sit around that table and the candidate sits at the table and the new hampshire reporters get to ask questions that are of hampshire. when they are done, the national media are in the room, can also ask questions. >> "washington journal" continues. host: welcome back. we are joined by paul steinhauser, a national political reporter for fox news and a political reporter for the

concorde monitor. he is joining us from new hampshire. welcome to the program. guest: great to join you. it is in the mid-teens here. a frosty morning in new hampshire. host: but an improvement from when you were in iowa last week. guest: very much so. i am used to the winter living up here, but it was extra cold in iowa. host: let's talk about new hampshire. what role historically does new hampshire primary play in presidential politics? guest: a very important one. with ia, it is a 12 punch. the job of iowa and new hampshire is to win the field, maybe not dictate the nominees for the parties but to win the field. we saw iowa do that. a couple of candidates dropping out before and after the weasels came in, will do that, as well. it has been a traditional role in both leadoff contests. host: the historical role is different from this year, though. guest: there is a little

controversy this year. the republicans, they have kept everything the same. isla first, new hampshire second. democrats shook up their calendar. it was almost a year ago that the democratic national committee voted to change things, to up in the traditional calendar after a suggestion i president biden. they moved new hampshire off, of leading off the primary calendar as the first primary, always going after iowa, which is a caucus. that wersial. they put south carolina first. democrats up did not like that. we have a state law in no hampshire -- new hampshire that says, we hold the first primary and we have stuck with that law. that is why new hampshire is having aday, as well as the pubc and primary. on the democratic side, it is out of whack, unsanctioned because it is in violation of the democratic national committees calendar.

president biden, because the democratic national committee did primary, he will not be on the ballot here. there is a right in campaign on his behalf, but he will not be on the ballot. the two longshot candidates challenging the president, marianne williamson and democratic rep -- of minnesota are campaigning. hostsx: speaking of right in, in addition to the campaign to encourage joe biden as a write in candidate, i have read there is a people to write in cease fire as a protest of what is going on in israel and gaza. guest: that came about in recent you know, there is very much a divide among democrats over the situation right now, the fighting between israel and gaza. that is very much a controversial sticking point for democrats. this is a form of protest. st's talk about the gop race.

where do the gop candidates stand in new hampshire right now? guest: that is where most of the action is, that where■z most of the votes will happen on the republican side. right now, you saw the results in iowa. very low turnout, only 110,000. the cold was one reason, but i think another reason was a lot of republicans felt warmer president trump would dominate and he did do that in iowa. won 98 out of 99 counties. he comes to new hampshire with a lot of momentum and as the favorite. the favorite in this contest. the polls indicate that former ambassador to the united nations and former south caro haley is y in second place, anywhere from 16distant third place is ron desantis, the florida governor who came in second in iowa not much of a factor here. those are the three candidates left in this race on the republican side.

host: over to the democratic side, earlier this week, 2024 dential candidate and minnesota representative dean phillips spoke to voters in manchester and criticized the nations two-party system and cls more competitive primaries. here are some of his comments. [video clip] >> this two-party system is actual to the country that george washington warned us about so long ago in his farewell address. if george washington warned us about that, should welat on hows and that was? he recognized, he called them factions -- wch by the way, exis president. he said factions would undermine this democracy when people became so focused on beating each other that they lose focus on trying to win for ts he is right. i only joined congress after the 2016 election and i found my daughter and peers in her bedroom. ■w overcome hodgkin's lymphoma, she is a gay woman.

i did not know that at the time. i s a table that morning and i promised my daughters i would do something. i ran for congress. little did i know how bad it s. offensively divisive, offensively separate both leaders on both sides of the aisle have been for■]■÷this is . yes, we need competition. i am a proud democrat telling all of you we need opposition. i think both political parties need competition. they do not want it. they want to protect a duopoly that is destructive to this democracy. there is nothing more than allowing two political parties that are private enterprises from seizing this country from all of us. who are these people? who are these people behind that cue they?

isn't it strange in america we do not know who they are? i have been democrat because i intend to repatriate decency, transparency and integrity to a party in which i deeply believe that has done this country a great serveke er the last number of decades but has lost its way and is clearly the gop has, as well. host: how well is thamessage resonating in new hampshire? guest: you get a little taste of the dean phillips stump speech. you can tell he is running as an outsider. critical of both party structures. it is resonating along some democrats. of democrats overall in new hampshire, our support of president biden, they do not want to see donald trump back in the white house but they are also frustrated tand the partyw hampshire of its first in the nation status in the democratic calendar. hihe is getting some crowds. take the polls, he can be

anywhere from single digits to the upper teens or over 20%. we will find out on tuesday just how his message has been received in new hampshire, but from the l, there are people that definitely will be supporting him. host: we will be taking your calls for paul coming up in a bit. our numbers for democrats, (202) 748-8000.. independents, (202) 748-8002. if you are in new hampshire and he would like to join the show, that number four you is (202) 748-8003. for folks in new hampshire. paul, how do new hampshire voters differ from voters in iowa caucus in terms of ideology and what motivates ■/em to vote i used to be a pure state -- iowa used to be a purple state. it has become much more conservative. republicans have done very well at the ballot box in iowa.

new hampshire remains one of a dozen through battleground ates. we have a republican governor, a legislature that is majority republicans and the executive council also controlled by their publicans. congressional delegation is entirely democrats. we are very much a battleground state. call it what youwe are also a se independent voters, we call undeclared voters up here, they are influential in our president to primary. ut 40% of the electorate. on primary day tuesday, we can vote either the demoat or republican primary. we can go into the polling station, register and get a republican ticket card or democrat card, cast our bal and go back and reregister as an independent. yes, moderate voters and independent voters in new hampshire are very influential and will probably once again play an important role in the primary and especially on the republican side where nikki

haley is counting on that independent against trump, who has the backing of the more conservative voters in the state. host:hose points you were making, we have got a chart of the new hampshire voter registration and how that breaks down. you have got about 268,000 republicans, 31% of the electorate. 262,000 democrats, 30%, but unaffiliated voters you were just talking about, 343,000, 39%. more of them than anybody else. why(ñ■i is that the case in new hampshire, compared to other states that are a bit more evenly split or lean heavily one way or another? guest: we have seen over the years that the rise in independent voters with a lot of voters no longer declaring themselves democra it is more pronounced in new hampshire. i think that is fair to say.

the election year is fiercely independent. we have a motto of live free or die. they are known as late deciders. the polls say one thing, but a lot of people go into that ballot box maybe making their decision in the last couple of hours before the vote. our secretary of state dave scanlon addicting the other day we hundred 22,000 people would vote in the republican primary and predicting 88 house and in the democratic primary. we will see if those numbers can out. regardless, that would be a lot larger than the caucuses in iowa host: so money people are watching how nikki haley performs in this race in particular. new hampshire governor chris sununu is supporting make? guest: it has already helped. when he endorsed her five weeks ago in new hampshire, it gave her an instant boost in twith dd the gap with donald trump.

sununu is her top advisor, mapping out w she stops on the campaign trail. yesterday, the first of seven or eight stops was in the general stes, as well. retail politics is a very, very important part of new hampshire long been a major part of the primary. sue knew new is emphasizing that -- sununu is emphasizing that with haley. it has been a traditional part of new hampshire's politicing. they are emphasizing that in their final days. ho let's get to mike in new jersey on our independent line. go ahead, mike. caller: yeah, good morning, paul. thank you for being on and stay warm. i just want some specifics.

can you tell me of the democrats, they are listed on the ballot. dean phillips,nell west on the ballot? thank you. guest: they are not on the ballot, west and steinpendent ce and stein is running on the green party. this is a democratic primary. theyn the general election, but this is a primary process so they will not be on the democratic primary ballot. dean williams will be, marion williams will be. whose name will not be on the democratic pallet? president biden. he did not register up here. as we talked about. there is a big write in campaign that top democrats in the state are supporting to try to help him when this primary. the last thing they want, even though this is an unsanctioned

primary, the last thing a lot of to suffer embarrassment here. i spoke to phillips yesterday, he thinks he can spr he is lookh in the double digits. he feels that will give him enough juice to march on. he will not be in the nevada primary. the next thing up for the democrats will be the primary in south carolina. joe biden will be on the ballot in south carolina. that was the state in 2020, his landslide victory in south carolina after getting punished in iowa. biden came in fifth in new hampshire, but rebounded with a second-place finish in the bata that huge landslide victory in south carolina that boostetuall. host: one of the other arguments the democrats make for south carolina being the first primary is the demographics. if we look at the demographics of new hampshire, it is 89% white and home to the minorities. we have a chart here.

almost 89% white, under 5% hispanic and latino, 2% african-american. 3.2% asian. vqthe argument being with south carolina being 69% white, 26 percent black, south carolina being more representative es in a democratic primary. what is your take on that? guest: this has been an argument for quite some time in the democratic primary process. this has been going on for any cycles. the democratic partyr e last generation or two has become much more diverse. there has been a lot of pushback, c hampshire, they also do not have large urban new hampshire, keeping to its guns and holding to its state law and holding this unsanctioned primary on the democratic side.

this has been a fight going on for a long time. winning the vital until this cycle when president biden came up with this new calendar that r independent line. go ahead, daniel. caller: good morning. what idonald trump a victor whey 15% of registered republicans showed up in iowbecause this nuw hampshire as all, ar the polls for this primary. this is not a victory for donald trump. host: what do you think about that, paul? you know, let's talk about that. yes, 110,000 people took part in the iowa republican presidential caucuses. that was down from 186,000 last time they had a contested contest in 2016 when ted cruz

narrowly donald trump and senator marco rubio for first place. you are looking at a dramatic drop in the number of participants in iowa. was a low turnout. why was it low? i am a new hampshire guy. i am used to winter. it was subpar take -- subarctic. e theizzard slammed in iowa to caucuses. the idea donald trump was going to win these caucuses big time, that helped depress the boat. nikki haley and ron desantis have been pointing this out nonstop ends monday that this was not a victory for donald trump and should be a troubling sign that only administer number of republicans came out to vote and he only won as thehe is alme incumbent in this primary battle that he only won about 50% of the vote.

trump world is happy with the results in iowa and calling it a major victory. different way -- desantis see it a different way. host: bonnie on our independent line. caller: week reminds me of a quote from winston churchill. by the time an american gets to qualified.nt, he is no i look at the arena of politicians who criticize trump for his obvious lies, criminal wife, his businesses, his taxes, his american people. t, now they are jumping on his bandwagon so that they can perhaps pursue or further their own careers. picture in mind, tim scott. as a registered nurse, i find it very disconcerting that we have

two very senior citize who are going to be taking over this country, one of them, anyway, presumably. these are the men that get up five times a nig to pee because they have enlarged prostate. host: ok. i wonder how the age arguments landing in new hampshire. guest: new hampshire is like the rest of the country. there has been poll after pl that indicate most americans are not very jazzed at all with a trump-biden rematch in the general election in 2024. age is a big part of that. we have joe biden, the oldest president in u.s. history, donald trump, only a few years younger than him. l factor for sure, and one that most americans, if you believe polling, areotorward to seeing these two gentlemen as the major party standardbearers in november. host: someone we haven't chatted about yet is ron desantis.

is at a campaign event in new hampshire yesterday, criticizing both of his top rivals for their record and their unwillingness to debate ahead of the states primary. let's listen to him for a bit. [video clip] >> i think that the choice on tuesday is simple. dona trump is running for his issues. nikki haley is running for the donors issues. i am running for your issues and es and solely to turn this country around. i am the only one running that has a record of delivering on 100% of my promises. donald trump ran on a lot of things in 2016. i was at the rally. build the wall, have mexico pay for it. did not deliver. drain the swamp, did not deliver. hold hillary accountable, did not deliver. on and on it does, there were promises made but there s not the follow-through. nikki haley, it is interesting. i was in south carolina the other day. i had 1000 people rally. i and, what

did she accomplish as governor that was a major achievement? can you tell me? od a single person r hand with anything that she achieved. if you spoke to 1000 republicans in florida and you ask them what i achieved as governor, you would have hands shooting up. being in any elected office is not just being a potted plant. it is leading and delivering results. sick of politics being about entertainment and all of this other stuff. deliver results for the people. that is all articulating that vision in bringing it to fruition. it is sad, if you look at what is going on in new hampsowa, w'e other candidates are running basement campaigns. they will stick their head out

every now anill not debate. we were supposed to do the debate last night. i signed up toelse would do it. they had another when offered on cnn on sunday. i accepted it, no one else accepted it. why why not get out there and defend your record and articulate your vision? i am proud of my record. i amroud of our vision for america. i would take any opportunity to do that. they are not doing it. i think itcern republican voters. host: back with paul steinhauser . how is ron desantis doing in new hampshire? what are the stakes in this race for him? guest: if you believe the polling here, he is not doing well. he is a distant third in new hampshinwhere haley is about 15s behind donald trump as they battle for first place. it does not appear to be much of a factor here.

haley told me earlier this week ron desantis was invisible in new hampshire. she has been framing this as a two-person race in new hampshire. she came in third in iowa, but in her speech monday night in des moines after the caucuses looking ahead to new hamhire and south carolina, she started to frame this race, rightfully or wrongfully, as a two-person race between her and the former president. desantis, new hampshire, not saying it is inconsequential to him, but he is looking ahead. he is either resigned to the fact they■á are not going to perform so well. where is he this weekend? not here. he was in new hampshire friday campaigning era today and tomorrow, he will be in south carolina. they hold their contest on february 20 fourth, they are the next major state to hold a republican contest. nevada has a cau but it is convoluted. that comes in early february. desantis taking shots at both haley and trump for the lack ofa

controversy. donald trump has not done any debates. he has skipped all of them, dating back to august. there were two different debates planned for new hampshire, one the other day and one for tomorrow night. neither are happening becausede- desantis was the only one who said yes. haley said she would make it to the stage if trump would, which he is not doing. host: next up we have gary in kentucky on our republican mind. go ahead, gary. good morning. caller: i do not take much stock in primaries, because01 sandersd the de■omocratic party would not

acknowledge it or announce it. i am concerned about a candidate that does not put his name on the ballot and candidate that does not show up for debates. i tell you, desantis one thing, one thing nikki haley has done is representatives internationally. we have crisis everywhere internationally right now. host: do you have a response to that? guest: haley is touting her time not only as south carolina governor where she served two terms but her time as u.s. ambassador to the ited■w nations. she difference with desantis and trump when it comes to a number of overseas issues, she advocates a much more muscular u.s. approach overseas, something that was predominant in the republican until the trump era. that has changed things, trump

having a much more u.s. centric foreign-policy policy and national security strategy. definitely policy differences and haley seems to be on one side with trump and desantis slightly on the other side. so much of these races for the white house, these primary battles are about personality and the candidates themselves. policy is also a very important part of this and something that does not get a ton of attention in the media. when you hear the questions from tv, it is about policy.e, it is host: speaking of this issue, the caller was referencing bernie sanders. if you go back, we have a chart of the past new hampshire primary winners since 2000. bernie sanders and■nald■rç 2020. 2012, barack obama and mitt romney. mixed record of picking winners and losers going back as

far as 2008. hillary clinton and john mccain. al gore and john mccainsh in 20. i wonder what you think of new hampshire's record in terms of picking winners? guest: again, we talked about this right off the bat, kimberly. i think people in new hampshire and iowa will say it is not their job to pick the nominee, field. so many times, throughout this cycle we have seen a dress of candidates. cycles, we have come into iowa and hampshire with a ton of candidates on both sides and those fields shrink dramatically after iowa and new hampshire. they move on to south carolina, nevada and the super tuesday contest in march. the idea is to shrink the field, notwinner. bernie sanders and 2016 crush the competition. he destroyed hillary clinton new hampshire. she did rebound, but they

or that nomination. that was quite a historic matchup between the two. four years later in 2020, it was a very slight victory for sanders over pete buttigieg, the former mayor of fort wayne, ■pl,the transportation secretary in the biden administration. we remember that joe biden came in fifth in iowa -- fourth in iowa, fifth in new hampshire before that major landslide in south carolina. that was another rson th■f democrats, besides diversity, but a lot of democrats are looking back to 2020 and say, why should new ham because theyd not get it right when it came to biden becoming the nominee? host: folks in new hampshire, if you would like to call in, that special line for you■n is (202) 748-8003. first, let's go to eddie in peoria, illinois on our democratic line. good m

i have a question. i am a little hazy on this. i do not know if it is policy, but the incumbent. why don't incumbent have any more challengers, or is that a policy or just courtesy from the other politicians that might one to run but could not run? host: go ahead, paul. guest: we have seen in history -- it is very tough to bea presr a second term. there have been times where that incumbent has faced some tough challenges. let's go back 1980, democratic president jimmy carter. there were tough times in the country. i was a younger person b rememb. he had a fierce primary challenge from then senator ted kennedy of maschwalker bush in 2

running for reelection. pat buchanan gave him a run for their money. we have seen this -- the last two cycles, donald trump did get primary challenged in 2020 on the were public inside. former massachusetts governor william wells won 7% of theote in new hampshire, but trump was the overall choice for that renomination. here we are four years later and biden is--you look at the polling and biden is the clear favorite to win renomination but is facing primary challenges. dean phillips, the congressman from maryland -- from minnesota, marianne williamson, those are the top two candidates. host: ro khanna is speaking at a new hampshire house party for biden, the reelection drive there. he i to discuss the president's right in campaign fo the 2024 new hampshire

democratic primary. we are going to be carrying that live today at c-span at 4:00 p.m. easrn it is going to be on cpanow, our free mobile video app or online at c-span.org to -- guest: kimberly. host: go ahead. guest: it is interesting you brought up ro khanna. he has been here in support of president biden and that has got people thinking, mayas got a paa national run. ro khanna is a one of four or five known democratic politicians that are in the state this weekend, doing what he is doing, part of this right in process trying to get democrats to the polls on tuesday to write in joe biden's name. interesting to see what is going on right now. host: michelle in birmingham, alabama on our republicango ahe.

we have lost michelle. let's go to jennifer, who is in new mpshire dindependent. go ahead, jennifer. caller: i just wanted to make a statement and may be question, also. is, i do not like that our state is not -- that we change parties for the primaries. i do not like that. i was wondering why we do that. i do not think it is right. if it is a fair fight like stacey abrams always said, i think we need to stay with our pa■■y and not do it because it is not there. the other question is, why would biden change to south carolina? i think that is disrespectful to our state. thank you and have a blessed day. host: go ahead, paul. guest: we will startit what you heard from that caller just now is what a lot of democrats,■h independents and republicans are saying in new hampshire.

they are angry with president biden and democrats taking away and stripping this first in the nation status. it has been at the top of the calendar. republicans made no changes. new hampshire is still going first, following our state law. there is a lot of is it meant at what the democrats are doing and that will come into play. as for her other comment, the law up here allows a democrat or republican to change their voter registration, but you have to do it by mid-october. the deadline is over. about 4000 democrats according to figures from the secretary of state's did change their registration from democrat to undeclared or independent. either the democrat orvote republican primary on tuesday. there is a process to allow for that. donald trump has been saying in recent days and events appear

and in media interviews that democrats can vote in the republic and primary. that deadlins passed. only independents and republicans can vote in that republican primary. host: next is arizona on our independent line. go ahead. caller: yes, i am concerned about people discussing nikki haley as ashe is a warmonger. she is interested in war with iran, with russia, withto discue se unbelievable to me. so, i do not understand that. host: paul, is she considered a moderate by new hampshevoters? guest: let's talk about what the other candidates are saying first, then we can get to that. donald trump and ron desantis have been criticizing haley,

questioning her conservative agenda and record. they are painting themselves as much more conservative and her as more of a mwe were talking an policy and national security, which is what this caller was referencing. ontraditional, conservative, strong overseas involvement by the united states, which was the republican's policy foradnald ta reshaped this party over the last two election cycles. you ha seehere. i will say this about new hampshire voters, there is a high percentage of veterans in this state. overseas matters, military matters, foreign national security top issues for new hampshire voters, especially when it comes to the republican primary. host: our democratic line. caller: good morning. look, i heard you say that new hampshire in head to

head polls, joe biden is winning. did i hear you say that? st: i do not think so, but, go ahead. go ahead, paul. guest: we did not talk about the in new hampshire. we were talking about the primary polls. a couple of new ones came out the last couple of days. is ahead of trump, ahead of desantis. the latest one i saw indicates haley would be edging biden in the date. this is traditionally a battleground state. in 2020, biden won by seven points over donald trump. host: what is your question, terrel? caller: my question is, have you ever heard stockman? the author that wrote the book, trump's on capitalism? host: regardless, what is the question or paul?

caller: the question is, donald trump it's out of the and he lies about everything. you know, just like he was saying he was lying about the democrats voting in the republican campaign. i just wonder why people let him get away with stuff. in reference to this book, italism, it is telling everything he lied about and this guy david stockman is saying donald trump was the worst president ever. the they do not want to hear anything. they do not want to see anything. they do not want to hear anything bad about donald trump. host: let's see if we can get -- a couple more questions for paul before we have to let him go. brian in the independent line. caller: my comment is really about how the press generally is

reporting the results on the primary for trump, typically the way i believe they would in a primary for biden based on how they talk about polling for biden. hgthat being, we just had the ia results. donald trump only garnered 50% of the vote. he is the incumbent president of the republican party. everybody said he has had -- along comes a primary, he garners only 50%. there are lots of reports saying on by a landslide because he had a 20% lead or 30% lead over desantis and nikki haley. but, he actually only got 50%. host: did you have a question for paul? we only have a couple of minutes left. caller: only 50% of the people voted. he did not win.

that is a terrible loss. people should be reporting that. host: thanks,let's go to richarn on our independent line. do you have a question for paul? caller: goodi have something a e different. where i work, there is 93 workers. 56 of us are married or living with somebody. we have our own polling box so no one knows how somebody voted. come to find out, we are democrat, republican and independents. we, come to find out again, nobody here wants to republican. even the republicans do not. democrats will vote for biden. talking about what we found out, will vote for biden. nobody, the republicans people said if trump is on the ballot box, they will not vote at all. host: any thoughts on that,

paul? guest: that is an interesting comment there. there are plenty of people who do not want to see donald trump returned to the white house. that is crystal clear. not just democrats. at the same time, donald trump still has a lot of support in the republican party. people say that the party is still firmly under his grip. host: we are going to get in one more quick call from patrick in new hampshire who is a republican. go ahead, patrick. turn down your volume on your tv. caller: hold on. yep. how annoying is that ear piece you have? host: [laughter] guest: [laughter] it keeps falling out, but that is ok. i prec all right, where there ay other questions about the election before we let you go? caller: yeah, i am an. i am going to vote for trump. i did last time. i hope that everybody, if you

have a family that you are working your butt■c like me and my wife are, if you have fallen behind the last three years, hope lee in november, we can change all of that. hopefully, you are on board with us, john. hopefully, we can get back to some normalcy and someone that is cognitively declining. that would be nice. host: thanks, patrick. you, paul, before we let you go? guest: you heard that, there. the former president made history last year, first former. not just once, four times. in two cases for try to overthrow the 2020 election results. in a way, that has only made him stronger and more popular with a lot of people in the base of the republican party. we saw that play out in iowa. it was a landslide factory -- victory, but a low turnout.

new hampshire is going to be interesting. will donald trump's ride continue to the nomination or will he face a major speedbump in face a major speedbump with maybe nikki haley giving him a run for the money? night. a big win by donald trump and the nomination process may be over quickly. ifvictory for haley we may havea fight ahead of ourselves for a few weeks longer. tuesday night will be interesting in new hampshire. host: were of your reporting. a national political reporter for fox news, as wellthank you e this morning. stay warm out there. we were hearing about former president donald trump. today, he wille sting a rally in manchester, new hampshire, aouple of days before the first in the nation primary with live coverage beginning at seven :00 p.m. eastern on c-span, c-span now

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