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now. what we know is there has been a dramatic reset in the race from what it was a few weeks ago before joe biden out. the pulling at the time showed trump had picked up a significantly both nationally and in swing states and every battleground state. with the reset that has happened with kamala harris, it has now become a closer race most of the polls largely still has is a advantage but it is neck and neck and we have seen, and the swing states have narrowed the gap. is there is a lot of is he is him among people whom he beat once were thinking of voting for biden and then stepped away with the concerns about his mental age and fitness and now it is a reset of what is happening going into november. host: how you measure that

enthusiasm and re-engagement from people you say may have stepped away from the race? guest: two things that are key to me that have come out. first the change in harris' favorability. she has traditionally had low ratings in the spring, summer and when she was vice president. she was consistent with where biden was who had lower ratings. and we have seen bump in her readings and she is now around the low 40's and her un-favorability rating has gone down as well. we see whether temporary or long-term remains to be seen but a noticeable uptick in her in that regard. the second thing i have noticed is who her supporters are,

democrat -- demographic looks different than with biden. a lot more younger voters and those who are nonwhite and people of color. this is the constituency that historically made up democratic support and yet biden has been struggling with these groups. we will look to see how it changes down the road. she will need to expand beyond the democratic base but the people supporting here are people who were depressed groups before when biden was running. host: how different is it today from the coalition that put joe biden into office in 2020? we had a guest on previously on the program saying that donald trump and republicans are breaking up the usual blocks of coalition that democrats rely on to get over the hump. guest: historically, joe biden in particular and democrats, he

has taken a lot of pride in his connection to unions and ability to get blue-collar workers. this was a coalition and that the voters that trump was able to tap into when he won in 2016 and this group is what trump had his eye on as he goes into november with the union and trump trying to reach these voters, group c is trying to reach -- a group is trying to reach. there are now younger voters coming back to the democratic side and nonwhites. these are groups that we have seen support for biden was much lower among these groups than they were in 2020 and also what the pulling was showing it was lower in these groups and what kamala harris has now. biden was able to build a coalition that consisted of

dependent and moderate voters, suburban, suburban women typically, and these are groups that kamala harris will have to tap into to some extent if she will be successful. host: what did you make of the j.d. vance pick last week? guest: two weeks ago the republican party was running high and there was a tremendous amount of unity we were seeing behind trump especially in light of the assassination attempt. with j.d. vance come at the time it was that trump is in 1980 excessive for the republican party and ensuring that the legacy. this is a bright young person who is well spoken who can carry this on and make compelling act. it almost didn't matter who tomkat as his running mate at the time because it was all about donald trump and the

republican party is behind him and it was either you were with trump or not and that is all that mattered. i think the rollout of vance has not been as successful as republicans liked coupled with the fact that the whole campaign was built against running against joe biden with kamala harris at the top of it is a completely different race. i am not sure if would have been picked if that was set up. there been clips circulating about what vance said and old things resurfacing. they will realign on how they will make their arguments in the case against,. i am not sure about that playing out. host: other lessons that kamala harris should learn from the

j.d. vance rollout? guest: i think the harris campaign is looking to have somebody that is a counterpart to what she offers. it will be 70 with legislative experience, border experience, likely from a swing date and likely who can connect to some of the voters in more urban and rural areas and looking for somebody who can counter and be just a partner in terms of what she has to offer, as well as the vulnerabilities. they are well aware of her strengths and weaknesses and how they can be exploited. and we see the trump campaign will try to paint her as a liberal and even farther to the left and the weaknesses that the biden campaign has in terms of immigration, inflation. they will for a partner and she

is looking for a partner who can complement her. host: currently cooperman is our guest in this last admit. a democratic pollster and strategist. if you want to talk campaign 2024, now is the time to call in. (202) 748-8000 four democrats, republicans (202) 748-8001, independents (202) 748-8002. the rollout yesterday from joe biden the reform for the supreme court, that republicans have set are dead on arrival in the house and senate and will not pass before election day and questions about whether they would pass at all. what do these reforms in this rollout do as you look at it as a campaign strategist on camping 2024? guest: you can't underestimate

what a dramatic transformation has taken place supreme court and the rulings they have had recently and the circuited takeover of the court. what we see with the power the court and half with the rulings. between the justices that trump was able to appoint in the wide range of rulings that have come out, it has really put a lot of attention to the supreme court and their power. the government is supposed to be a system of checks and balances yet they are appointed for life. they can have lasting impact. there is no accountability beyond that. i think a lot of people would probably buy into the fact that something like term limits makes sense.

even the role of the justices not seeing themselves. the supreme court in terms of ratings is at an all-time low. structure of getting something passed like that is difficult. you bring attention to something that i think a lot of people, even people who might have supported some of the recent decisions might have a pause to say, it is kind of crazy what is going on with the supreme court. host: this is jim in west virginia, line for democrats. caller: i would just like to say that you know what they say about trump, you either love him or he will hate you. so what is going on here is

people need to understand that from the beginning, trump with the whole russia thing that the republicans want to think he did nothing wrong, he certainly did. paul manafort, roger stone, all of these people were sentence and some of them went to prison and then trump became president and pardoned them. everything that sells is made in china or indonesia. it is not america first that he buys himself -- his stuff from. his daughter ask it in china. it is really a danger for this country. i guess that is all i have to say. host: how would you respond? guest: i think from the

democratic perspective there is the belief that trump is selling one thing and doing another and there is some hypocrisy that exists in terms of how he business and what he is selling to the american people. there is a large off of the electorate who truly believe what he has said in terms of the other country is hurting the american economy and needing to turn within to develop our economy and jobs being taken away by people that are non-americans and is something that has hit home with people as the economy itself hasn't struggled per se but the cost of living is high and inflation continues to be problematic. trump has been able to be successful with making this argument to people and in terms

of white so hard. something that resident -- resonates. host:host: jamie. caller: i have a question on biden wanting term limits with the supreme court. that's a slap in our face. and in my heart of hearts, i really feel like the biden who score to defend us have been able 300, at least, spitting off poisoning a day. they've allowed harm to come to american citizens by illegals. i've seen it in the house committee where people have been -- has children that have been raped and murdered by illegals that should not have been here. that's not good. they have brought the american citizens a piece from

unaffordable groceries, taxes and interest rates. they perpetrate foreign wars. they glorify the lgbtq community which i don't have a problem with. but i do have a problem with chemically castrated children. i mean, kids should be able to be kids. in my heart of hearts, there seems to be nothing good about the democrat party. i can't have kamala harris for a president. do you see what i'm saying? we are struggling here. host: what do you want to pick up on? guest: i think the point about the border is something that democrats know is a weakness. biden came into office and trying to come up with a policy that showed compassion of people coming in and what resulted was

the republicans were able to really -- in terms of spread the migrant crisis all around america and the biden administration is trying to respond to that within the past year by putting forward some restrictions and trying to come up with a policy that was both tougher and had compassion and, you know, this is an area that has risen to the top of people's minds and issues that they're concerned about. and, you know, the biden administration is pointing to the legislation that they tried to pass. i think

there candidates in the parties that do not agree with the extremes, and more importantly, there were voters who continue to feel that way. i think there will always be

more to the parties than the extremes. when you see the party infighting, to some extent it is a good thing because you cannot just lump the country into these two extreme sections even the culture of how people get news on social media about the loudest voices, it seems that is it, so i share the concerns and frustrations but i think we will continue to see there is more nuance in american politics. >> what percentage of voters are undecided with less than 100 days until election day? >> it is small. i would say less than 10% for sure. maybe 5%-6%. one of the voting blocks we have been looking at, this was up to

24% of independents, these are voters who don't like or were unfavorable toward donald trump and biden. and we saw with the pulling in the last week with the announcement of kamala harris that number has gone down dramatically. when you have donald trump running for president, everybody has an opinion about him already, there are few people who do not. the percentage of people undecided is small. a large calculation for a lot of people is whether they want donald trump or not, and how kamala harris pulls them one way or another. it is a small amount of the electorate. the way our election system works, it is those voters in the key swing states that will push things one way or another but it is also a turnout game. and getting people to show up, and who shows up.

trump was able to pull in 2016 a lot of people who had not been voting consistently, and showed up to vote for him. there was concern about democratic enthusiasm for biden going into the selection, and we will see if that has dissipated with kamala harris at the top of the ticket. >> was there anything to learn about american views of president trump in the wake of that unprecedented stretch of surviving the assassination attempt and going into a convention at a time when usually people get a bounce. what did you see from the numbers about american views on donald trump? >> there is a bounce in favorability ratings, there was the belief he looked presidential and the contrast

between him and biden in the aftermath from the debate. also the perception of being a leader, watching his response to the assassination attempt among his supporters, the belief he was this heroic person, that being said, there was not a significant bump in terms of his overall standings in the race. you see it in swing states and national polls. it was not a huge bump in terms of impact. it all got mixed in because biden, because for him to step down were growing, and his ratings were dropping, and it was democratic voters, almost 70% were saying they thought he should withdraw. they did not think he could win the election.