♪ host: good morning, it is tuesday, august 20. you're looking at the united

center in chicago where the democratic national convention kicked off yesterday with convention kicked off by president biden. we will start today's for our program. let us know your thoughts on the dnc, yesterday's speeches, and what you're looking to hear for the rest of the week. here's how to call us. republicans, (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000 independents, (202) 748-8002. you can text us at (202) 748-8003. send us your name, city, and estate. we are on facebook at facebook.com/c-span and on x @cspanwj. we will start with this headline from npr.org that says that kamala harris makes a surprise appearance on the first night of the dnc.

we have a portion of that where she made brief remarks. v.p. harris: it is so good to be with everyone this evening in this hall and everyone at home. this is going to be a great week. [cheers and applause] i want to kick us off by celebrating our incredible president, joe biden. [cheers and applause] who will be speaking later tonight. joe, thank you for your historic leadership, for your lifetime of service to our nation, and for all you will continue to do. we are forever grateful to you. thank you, joe. looking out at everyone tonight,

i see the beauty of our great nation. people from every corner of our country and every walk of life are here, united by our shared vision for the future of our country. this november, we will come together and declare with one voice, as one people, we are moving forward. [cheers and applause] with optimism, hope, and faith, so guided by our love of country, knowing we all have so much more in common than what separates us. let us fight for the ideals we hold dear, and let us always remember, when we fight, we win. god bless you and god bless the united states of america. good night, everyone. host: that was from day one of

the dnc. we will get your reaction to that end your thoughts on campaign 2024. before we do, we will speak to a reporter from politico, politics reporter. we are drawing from our set in chicago. -- we are joined from our set in chicago. megan,. for vice president kamala harris. did he make the case for vice president harris? how was the speech received? guest: it was fascinating to see, talking to folks before and after the speech. a lot of people said that this is the speech that he could have given thursday night if he was accepting the democratic presidential nomination. we saw him talk about his legacy

and priorities. the way that he talked, it was reminiscent of his stump speech that he had been given on the trail for a month now, talking about democracy and the soul of the nation. we saw that turn towards vice president kamala harris and her running mate tim walz. at the end we saw him embrace her on the stage. we finally had that cathartic passing of the storage moment -- of the torch moment, but it took a while to get there. a lengthy speech that he delivers last night that ran past the midnight hour for folks on the east coast. host: vice president harris made a surprise appearance. i take it that that wasn't expected, wasn't planned? guest: we were not expecting her to come on stage, but she certainly livened up the crowd. they were obviously thrilled to see her. she didn't speak for very long,

but gave a pep talk to the crowd. i think everyone is looking forward to hearing more from her on thursday night when she accepts the nomination officially. host: we also saw the return of former presidential nominee hillary clinton to the stage. what was the reaction to that? guest: yeah, i think a lot of folks were very excited to see her. we heard a lot of energy in the room. folks were having flashbacks to her own presidential run. we heard the same walk on/walk off music she used during her own campaign. i think that it was harkening back to that run. at the same time, we saw her deliver the strong case for vice president kamala harris. she touched on some of the vice president's candidacy in ways we

haven't heard the vice president talk about herself. she tends to not lean so much into the fact that she would be the first woman president, first black woman president, first south asian american president. she doesn't really talk about that on the campaign trail quite as much she doesn't really talk about that on the campaign trail quite as much. she does with some audiences, but it was interesting to make that case in chicago. host: tonight, we will see former president barack obama and former first lady mi obama. what are their roles expected to be? guest: that's right. we have seen them be broadly supportive of the ticket. president obama, folks were asking him to wait in -- weigh in when there were the

conversations about president biden staying in the race. they have served to rally the base. these are two immensely popular figures in the democratic party. there was some wish casting when it was not sure if it would be kamala harris or an open prospect, but folks were throwing michelle obama's name out there. she is obviously immensely popular along with former president obama. maybe we are expecting to really hear them rally the crowd and speak to why they think that vice president harris is the right candidate. also to speak against former president donald trump. why they believe that he is the wrong choice for the country. we might expect them to lean into some of the things that we've heard president joe biden speak about as well. host: there is a ceremonial rollcall of states happening today. remind us, why is that happening

and why is it just ceremonial? guest: this is a quirk of the ohio process. the way that the calendar works, delegates had to vote virtually in order to make ohio's ballot qualification deadline. technically, that vote has already happened. vice president harris is officially the parties nominee. that is normally something that wouldn't happen until today. we don't have to call her presumptive or likely nominee, she is already the nominee. yet, this is an important part of the convention process. all of the folks rally their signs, there is traditionally a speaker from each state who says a few words in announcing why their state is casting their vote for kamala harris to nominate her. it is usually a very energetic

and lively time, a good time for states to rally around their own state identity and also speak out in favor of the vice president. it is normally a joyous time in the convention hall. host: i want to ask about protesters on the war in gaza. what have you seen? what is expected for the rest of the week? guest: yeah, we have definitely seen a presence like we expected there to be at the convention. i don't think that anything has surpassed expectations or gone beyond what folks were expecting. everything kicked off sunday night with a protest marching down michigan avenue in chicago. there were protests yesterday. those are expected to continue throughout the week. again, this was expected. convention staff and police had prepared for this.

we did see folks unveil a banner last night in the convention hall, but i think that everything we've seen so far has been within the realm of expectations. folks expected and were prepared for this. we saw the protesters push down one of the barricades surrounding the security perimeter, but everything has been pretty expected. i haven't heard folks be shocked that this is a convention and convention straw protests. talking to some of the protesters ourselves, they said this is our role as activists, we have to show up and hold the democratic party's feet to the fire. that is what they are doing this week. host: thanks so much for joining us. guest: thanks for having me. host: megan was joining us from a studio in pru. that is where we will be setting up to the rest of our time in chicago.

we want to thank them for the use of that space. we are taking your calls on the dnc day one yesterday and what you are expecting for the week. we will start in silver spring, maryland, democrats line. caller: good morning. how are you doing this morning? host: good morning. you have to mute your tv. caller: sorry, i will turned on my radio. i think that the media, social media, said it all. kamala harris is the winner for the job. i -- the speeches were outstanding for day one of the dnc.

all of the lies that trump has been saying, the bullying, the bull crap he has been saying, the lies, the empty promises. he said he would do this, he would make america great again, blah, blah, blah. nothing has happened. nothing has occurred. he expects to take over the white house again? no, it's not going to work. host: how do you feel about the last 3.5 years of the biden-harris administration? caller: biden has been doing ok, that he has been very busy. he couldn't multitask and do the foreign policy, take care of the abortion situation, and then on

the other hand there is violence everywhere, there is gun control, have to do something about that. i am not happy that he stepped down. the media was begging him to step down. he listened to the media. he wanted to stay in the race, but the media was begging him to step down. host: all right. lester in alabama on the republican line. good morning. caller: i'm sorry. i am democratic. host: call us back on the democratic line. let's go to douglas in new hampshire on the independent line. caller: yeah, so, nobody voted for kamala harris. the democratic party has nothing to do with democracy. this is how it's done in china.

the party picks the person and tells the people, this is who you are voting for. they stole it from bernie twice, now they stole it from biden. this isn't how things are done in the united states of america. host: joe in new jersey, democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i tuned in relatively late last night, when aoc was speaking. what struck me was looking at the audience. that is the america that i want to live in, where there is a plurality of people. and even though we have a lot of differences about our ideas, that we talk about those differences. i didn't see anything like that at the republican convention, which i also watched and also tuned into late. i want to live in a world where

all of us are represented and in a world and a country where we talk about different ideas, where we learn from each other, and we learn from different cultures. what i realize thinking about it overnight is when donald trump got into office, the first day, inauguration, he was talking about all of this fear. i was afraid. i was afraid of them in the same way that i believe that they are afraid of people different from them. i am talking to those who support donald trump, not necessarily the entire republican party. you are talking about you are afraid of change and afraid of people who are different from you. i'm not anymore. i want to live in a world where we all respect each other's ideas, and that is not what donald trump is about. i'm so happy that i turned in last night to see the different sea of people from all different

kinds of lives and nations and immigrants. we are all immigrants. host: we are taking your calls this first hour. you can give us a call by party. republicans on (202) 748-8001. democrats are on (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. let's look at president biden. here's a portion from what he said last night. [video clip] pres. biden: character is destiny. for me, jill, we know kamala and doug are people of character. it has been our honor to serve alongside them. we know that tim and gwen walz are also people of great character. selecting kamala was the very first decision i made when i became our nominee.

it was the best decision then i made my whole career. [cheers and applause] we have not only gotten to know each other, we have become close friends. she's tough. she's experienced. she has enormous integrity. enormous integrity. her story represents the best american story. like many of our best presidents, she was also vice president. that is a joke. [laughter and applause] she will be a president that our children can look up to. she will be a president who is respected by world leaders, because she already is. she will be a president that we can all be proud of. she will be an historic president who puts her stamp on america's future. host: that was from late last

night. this is "the washington post" that says biden closes out day one with any emotional speech. president joe biden praised vice president harris as a person of integrity and promised to be "the best volunteer for harris and walz the campaign has ever seen. the speech served as a symbolic moment as the incumbent handed the baton to the new democratic nominee and her running mate, governor tim walz after biden withdrew from the race last month. back to the calls, eric in baltimore, good morning. host: good morning, mimi. good morning, america. this is a ridiculous, nauseating event. you see how they for months built all these walls at the democratic national convention. they didn't do that for the j

6'ers led by trump. we are out there protesting genocide, babies being killed. the real numbers over 200,000. this is ridiculous. killer kamala, tim the terrible, this is ridiculous, man. we need real change. we have a real ticket, dr. stein, dr. ware. real change to help housing, health care, get rid of dirty -- all this dirty weaponry. over 1000 plus military bases. we have to be the world police. there is real change coming. thank you. host: here is reuters on that. the dnc pro-palestinian protests draw thousands in chicago. the article says that thousands

of mostly peaceful pro-palestinian protesters marched in chicago on the opening day of the dnc in a show of anger against the biden administration's support of israel in the gaza war. after hours of peaceful demonstrations, dozens of protesters broke through part of the perimeter security fence, drawing right police to the site. freddy is calling us from upper marlboro, maryland, democrat, good morning. caller: good morning, mimi. i was very inspired by the convention last night. i enjoyed all of the speakers. i especially enjoyed president biden's speech. he has been a good president and a great patriot and has put the country before him, just like he said in the speech. i'm looking forward to the rest of the convention, and i am praying that netanyahu will soon accept a cease-fire in israel. thank you.

host: let's take a look at former secretary of state hillary clinton talking about kamala harris at last night's dnc. [video clip] hillary: kamala locked up murderers and drug traffickers. she will never rest in defense of our freedom and safety. donald trump fell asleep at his own trial, and when he woke up he made his own kind of history. the first person to run for president with 34 felony convictions. [cheers and applause] vice president kamala sat in the situation room --

[cheers and applause] but we also know as vice president, kamala sat in the situation room and stood for america's values. host: that was hillary clinton from last night. we are taking your calls. houston, republican, joyce, good morning. caller: yes. i am a 91-year-old black american, not african-american. i have never been to africa. i've never wanted to go there. never in my 91 years on this earth, i've never been so afraid for my country. i saw total insanity last night.

you are praising biden, but you kicked him out. i want to say to black americans, he was put in there because of blacks, and look what they did to what you put in. blacks, let me say to you, we have been used for our vote for 80, 90 years. and look at our communities. look at chicago where it failed. every weekend hundreds of people are being shot. that was one week 117 got shot, 17 died, and we are rejoicing over this insanity that i saw last night. and i'm very disturbed. i am saddened for my country. to the democrats, i've been there. i've been where you are, but i had to repent.

i'm into an organization where it is ok to kill babies. i heard last year over one million babies were sucked out of their mother's womb. most of them were black. let me say to the blacks, we did not kill our babies when we were a teenager. if one of us got pregnant we went to louisiana to aunt lucy's house and we came back a year later but lucy had a baby to raise. now you have an abortion clinic set up at the convention and we in this nation are rejoicing. we have children who have been brought here saying they had a sponsor when they got here. we don't know where these children are. they are into sex slavery and we are rejoicing. i want to say this to the black community, we are prostitutes in reverse. we are being screwed and we are

paying. it is time for blacks to wake up. we have been used all these years. look at our communities filled with drugs. host: sharon in gwynn oak, maryland. good morning. caller: how are you doing this morning? host: good. caller: i looked at the democratic convention last night . it was better than what donald trump was saying, so that gave me some confidence. but i am an african-american woman and i keep my faith in god , because he is the only one that can protect us. right now people straight away from -- strayed away from god. if you don't want god to do anything with your lives, don't say anything, because it's not

going to go right. i can give a testimony right now on this airways. when me and my husband bought our house and stuff like that, year later we found out we had a hole in our roof. my husband had to make a loan to get the roof fixed. it wasn't cheap. we had to get it fixed. so, the company, my husband filed for the loan, it was taking too long. guess what? my husband hit the number enough to get the roof fixed. i say to my children, i have seven children, and i make sure they do the right thing. i don't care what they say. they are up in age. 50 and 40 years old. they listen to me and their father, my husband. if the people would do the right thing like my little grandson, nine years old, he said grandma,

if people stopped doing bad stuff the stuff wouldn't be happening. i looked at my grandson, i said oh my god, you are right. if we do what is right, if you mess up, repent, go into prayer, tell god and start over again and things will go right for you. host: all right. we will look at former president trump speaking in a factory in york, pennsylvania about bringing back manufacturing jobs to the u.s. [video clip] mr. trump: for generations, custom components has strengthened the spine of america. your products have gone into the hoover dam and atomic energy plans, nuclear submarines, and they are currently doing a lot of work. i'm here today to deliver a simple message. when i am back in the white house, america's future will be built here in pennsylvania. and it will be built by american workers, like you. all over the country they will

be building, but pennsylvania is always a big factor. we have had great success, as you know, politically and otherwise, in pennsylvania. and we expect to have it again. we are doing very well here. thank you very much. with your vote we will unleash explosive economic growth and vast new prosperity for all of our citizens. we will put more money into your pockets and create millions of new jobs and do it like no one else has ever been able to do it . our plan will massively cut taxes, unlock american energy, slash regulations, big factor, crack down on trade cheaters, and stop outsourcing, rebuild our industrial base and bring back those beautiful words "made in the usa." [applause] we were doing that four years ago and starting to do really well, and then we had to stop for an unknown reason.

together, we will reclaim our nation's destiny is the number one manufacturing superpower in the world. we will do it and china won't even be close. nobody will be. we had that going at a level nobody has seen before and we will have it going again even better. this firm and the people standing behind me and in front of me will be a big factor. every policy in kamala harris' radical liberal playbook sends jobs and wealth to other countries. the jobs go to other countries. the wealth goes to other countries. every policy in the trump agenda is designed to bring jobs and wealth back home to america, where it along side where it will stay. kamala puts america last. i put america first. host: that was former president donald trump on the campaign

trail. this is donald in portsmouth, virginia. republican. hello. donald? are you there? caller: yes. you know, she says she will close the border. she has the power now to do what she got to do. but she ain't doing nothing. she has not been doing nothing ever since she has been running doing it now. she has got the power to stop the border. that is the bad thing, the border. coming in. you know? that's sad. she has saying a lot of talking but she ain't doing nothing. it is time for her to do what she says she's going to do. when i get in, i'm going to do this. do it now. you have the power now. that is what i don't understand. i don't care because god will get who he wants, but we ain't no better now than we've ever been.

with is my idea. host: let's talk to anderson in new york, democrat. good morning. caller: good morning. good morning, america. this is an answer to the lady from chicago, the young lady from chicago. i feel your pain. i am in brooklyn, new york. i see what you're saying about the crime in chicago. but i believe that the community affairs starts in the community. the black on black crime taking place in chicago and across the main states is not the fault of the vice president or the president of the united states. the community affairs starts in the community. what i saw last night at the democratic convention gives me hope for the united states of america. so, if the lady from chicago feels that way about kamala harris, how does she feel about donald trump and what he is

preaching, him and his cohorts? what the she have to say about chicago? i would like an answer from her. what i'm looking for is the future of this country and the hope of our communities. i saw it last night, and i'm definitely not going to vote republican. thank you. host: rick in spokane, washington, republican. rick? caller: mimi, i haven't called in a long time and i was calling on the independent line. i must have pushed the wrong number. host: can you call us back? caller: i will call right back. thank you. host: bo cephus in asheville, north carolina. caller: good morning. i wanted to say a few things if i can. i am a 74-year-old man. i've always voted democratic. i can tell you right now, i

talked about it with my brother and his sister. they were murdered three months ago in chicago, and we need to do something about this crime. you know, kamala, i want to follow her so bad but -- host: roy in california, good morning. caller: how are you? my comment is for the people who keep calling in trying to say that the democratic party didn't select kamala harris and how the american people didn't select her. well, for you people, let's see who votes for her now? that excuse won't fly. it is something that donald trump put out there for you to try to raise some type

of issue. it's not going to play. for those black people who are trump supporters, i just want to know. what you think is going to happen if he gets selected? what is he going to do for you that you keep asking what has kamala done for you? what do you think any president is going to say they are going to do, or any candidate is going to say that they want to do for you only? everything that happens is for everyone. this notion that black people are special and something just for them is ridiculous. one last thing, for those people who are out there demonstrating for hamas and such, do you really think that as you call them genocide joe and killer

kamala will change united states policy towards israel? do you think donald trump is not going to hasten that? for all we know, he might just help israel go over there and physically bomb. that's all i have. host: aaron is a republican in oklahoma. good morning. caller: hi. how are you? host: i'm doing great. go ahead. caller: i am a trumper and republican. i am open minded, but first of all i don't know how -- several things. i don't know -- i mean, i understand kamala did it ran for anything. she was the vice president. she didn't go through the voting

process. trump says it's a coup, so i think it is. they tried to do that for him. trump was a democrat back in the day and he supported the democrats. so, it's the same thing. they weaponized justice on him and they will do it to us and back and forth. my other thing is, do democrats really believe in god? that's what i want to know. you can believe whatever you want, that is america, that is who we are. you read some of the founding fathers didn't believe in god, like thomas jefferson, and they had slaves for a long time when that was bad. host: aaron, are you saying you don't think any democrats believe in god? caller: no, they don't. why do they take babies away from their moms?

host: let's look at a little bit more from president biden from last night. here he is. [video clip] pres. biden: for 50 years, like many of you, i have given my heart and soul to our nation. i have been blessed a million times return with support of the american people. i remember being too young in the senate because i wasn't 30 yet and to old to stay as president. but i hope you know how grateful i am to all of you. i can honestly say, and i give you my word as a biden, i can say that i'm more optimistic about the future than i was when i was elected as a 29-year-old united states senator. i mean it. ] cheers and applause] folks, we just have to remember who we are. we are the united states of america! [cheers and applause]

and there is nothing we cannot do when we do it together. god bless you all, and may god protect our troops. host: here is don in pennsylvania on the independent line. caller: good morning, america. it is the economy, stupid. come on, give me a break. i'm waiting on the roster here. i'm dying to see them. it ain't on the roster. where is jussie smollett? where is jussie smollett? you people wanted jussie smollett 2020, remember? he got a hangs men's noose around his neck for two hours. did you ever apologize?

host: in savannah, georgia, democrat, good morning. caller: how are you? host: good. caller: i am a democrat. i believe in god, i am a christian, i am an american. first of all, when donald trump became president, he wasn't prepared. the whole country was in chaos. we had people acting as if we were back in the 1920's when they carried those tiki torches and came out of the woods. being invaded by a bunch of crazy people. joe biden's speech last night said a lot. yes, he's old and not as sharp as he used to be, but he has a good head on his shoulders. kamala harris will be good for this country. first, she is strong. she has knowledge of the way that things should be.

and capital unlike the previous president. so, i'm saying that i am proud and happy and i was elated to watch that last night. host: all right, and here is gop vice presidential nominee jd vance. he was at a campaign stop in north philadelphia speaking to local reporters. [video clip] >> what is your message to pennsylvania voters on abortion? has your opinion changed? do you think there should be a national ban? sen. vance:. it is all right. look, first of all, i think it's important to be honest about what donald trump and i are focused on. what donald trump and i are focused on is making the american dream affordable on for pennsylvania families.

look, on the abortion question in particular, what president trump has said has been very direct. he has tried to find some common ground in this country that has been divided by this question for 50 years. he said, pennsylvania will want to have a different abortion policy from ohio, which will want a different policy than california. let the people in those states decide. and, i think it is important to point out just how different donald trump's common sense approach is from our opposition. these guys are talking about taxpayer funded abortions up to the moment of birth. that is sick stuff. i think you can all agree that we don't need to have american taxpayers paying for abortions at 33 weeks of pregnancy. it's gross. and the final point that i would

say on this is president trump i believe very, very deeply that we want americans to feel like they could afford to have families again. the biggest problem we have in this country, you talk to young women who have a pregnancy, especially an unexpected pregnancy, and a lot feel like they don't have options. how will you feed a baby in today's economy? how will you house a baby with rent where they are? we want to make american family life affordable given and that is the best way to promote a culture of life in this country. host: back to the phones. rick in spokane, washington independent. caller: thank you for the opportunity to speak. first, i would like to say that on the member of the menominee nation in wisconsin, so listening to the propaganda being spread about immigrants, listening to the vitriol, really

strikes me as the height of hypocrisy. i believe that the democratic party is the best choice to move forward to heal us from the open racism and the open bigotry that is being promoted by factions. i am saying factions, not all, of the current gop-maga movement. they become offended when we address those issues, but when you have people like joe rogan, the right-wing media hannity, broadcasting that proliferates the rural communities with outright propaganda that would have made goals in world war ii

proud of the manipulation. i live in an area where people of color have finally been accepted and tolerated, and i'm very grateful for my community that we've moved forward. but i believe that until the republican party can exercise itself from the toxic elements of maga they will continue to lose any credibility. host: you are looking at a live look at the downtown chicago. you can see the river in the background. larry is a republican in illinois. good morning. caller: good morning. just a couple of things. they were talking about taxpayer dollars. i wonder how much the city of chicago is charging their taxpayers for the presence of all of the police to hold back

the riots that they are having? it is amazing to me. they fact checked last night and president biden i don't know how how many lies he told and how many stories he stretched. i don't consider myself maga, but i consider myself a republican. the last thing is, it was really surprising to see some of the people who tried to run joe biden out of office with their smiles and "we love joe" signs. you want to talk about hypocrisy? and then they stuck joe on at 11:00 when they said he would be on a prime time. you have hair is getting on the stage trying to take away some of his glory with her smile and her love. she was probably one of the once behind kicking him out or getting rid of him.

host: larry, since you are in illinois, governor pritzker will be speaking tonight. are you going to be watching? what are your thoughts? caller: i don't know what i will be watching tonight. i think pritzker is an idiot. host: why is that? caller: the taxes in illinois are running people out. the new laws that he put in about no bail, letting criminals go. he has made money, his family has made money off the state of illinois. he is one of the cricket o -- crooked ones. he is as bad as the goya veg. host: let's talk to louise. caller: thank you for taking my call. i want to say this to the black woman who is 90 years old.

you are afraid of change. what is going on, we see a change coming. all of this negativity isn't doing anybody in america any credit. republicans hate to see anyone be happy in this country. if it wasn't for the democrats, these maga people, you wouldn't have medicare/medicaid. you would not have social security under the republican party. everything that you have is what democrats have fought for. when it comes to abortions, god gave women the right to have babies, not men. it -- if it were up to men we wouldn't have any children. stay out of women's wombs. we know what is best for us. god knows what is best for us because he knows what we are going to do before we do it. so, celebrate what's going on

right now. thank you, mimi. host:ll right, louise. oulive coverage of day ofonight th democratic national convention in chicago kicks off at 6:00 p.m. eastern with a preview of your calls, followed by the conveat 7:00 p.m., then more calls and reactions ng a 11:00 p.m. former first lady michelle obama, forme president barack obama, and illinois governor jb cond gentleman doug emhoff. from now, which is our free mobile video app, or online at c-span.org. emma is up next. washington, independent line, good morning. caller: good morning. i just want to make an observation.

when president biden was elected he put all of these executive orders on immigration. that brought immigration into our country and everything. if you look, there was an article outcome i don't remember when, but it talked about how much by ringing immigration and how much more taxes were paid, and everything. ok. the democrats controlled for the first couple of years in congress and everything, and they had an agenda they wanted to go through. when democrats got voted out and republicans came in, the first issue more or less they took was on immigration. it didn't go nowhere in the house, but the senate started the deal and it was coming together. then donald trump said, no. we are not going to have this. and we don't. joe biden had no other choice, because he was trying to bring bipartisanship into it and it didn't work.

he had no choice but to react to what was already there before he came into office. all joe biden was trying to do was bipartisan support. i believe that about the democrats. they are working for bipartisan support. i appreciate you taking my phone call. host: mark is a republican in connecticut. good morning. caller: morning. yes, i just want to comment that i support trump. the reason is, we lived under trump for four years. we know exactly what kinds of policies and the kinds of things he is going to do. he lowered our taxes despite democrats continually saying that it is tax cuts for the rich. in reality, it was actually the biggest cuts in the lower brackets. the tax policy center, nonpartisan organization, they

said that a married couple making under $85,000 with two children are going to pay an additional $1700 when the tax cuts and jobs act expires next year. we will be paying more taxes on top of all of the policies we have now. i don't know why people are trying to pretend kamala is a new, fresh thing. she is a far left san francisco liberal who agrees with the same policies that we are under right now. so, i don't know who these people are calling pretending like she is some new thing. i know for me i am doing much worse. i don't have the kind of disposable income had when trump was in office. i don't think that i can survive another four years of this kind

of policy. so, i think working-class americans who are looking for change, there is only one choice. that is donald trump. we need to go back to the 1.4% inflation we had under him. we need to go back to the kind of flourishing economy that we had under him. so, that is my point today. host: paulette is a democrat in monticello, florida. caller: how are you today? host: i'm doing great. caller: i am worried about a couple of things i heard regarding the protesters. i think they should really watch out for the agitators. one man stated that security is really tight and they can't do it like january 6. that worried me when i heard that. another thing is people calling in like you go to a book club but you didn't read the book.

the constantly repetitive language that they are hearing. immigration was not in kamala's hands. it was in our congress and the republicans refused to pass it. chicago crime starts in the community with the parents, searching the kids' book bags, wondering why they have hoodies in the summertime. that is not the president. that is not the vice president. i don't believe in abortion personally, but it is an individual choice and people should mind their business. just like religion. you have people who are buddha, who believe in idols, this and that. let them believe in whatever god they believe in. mind your own business. it sounds like voice ai have taken over on some of these

calls. some of them sound like they are way back in the sticks. last night i was hopeful and glad that there are diverse voices speaking on behalf of a diverse america. trump is with whoever is with trump. that is it. trump needs to be in jail. host: kelly, good morning. caller: good morning. the last caller had me laughing. i agree with a lot of what she says, but not everything. you need to have an other line, so i took the independent line. i really don't have aside yet, but definitely not trump. he talks out of both sides of his mouth, just like the vice president that he wants, vance. years ago he was talking about how much he despises the man. as far as calling kamala the border czar, she had her

opinions but she was not not the final say. the president way. i don't know why people are holding her to the fire on that one. there are so many things. host: kelly, you said that you are not decided on who you will vote for? caller: definitely not trump, but no, i'm not. host: what is it that will make up your mind? what are you waiting to hear or to find out? caller: it is the economy. and definitely women's rights. i was raped when i was younger, in middle school. if i hadn't had the choice, i don't know what i would have done with my life. i'm not thrilled about abortion, but if people are going to die being molested by their stepfather, they should have a choice.

it shouldn't be the government's right to tell us what to do with our bodies. i just think it's wrong. host: kelly, stephen is next, democrat in new york, good morning. caller: good morning. i would like to address jd vance's childless cat people comment on a couple of different levels. first of all, there are plenty of single americans who would love to adopt. there are a lot of same-sex who would like to adopt. however, there are so many obstacles being put in place, ok? those obstacles are put in place by republicans and conservatives who make it harder for those people to adopt. let's talk about heterosexual couples. here they are, deciding if they want to have children, right? they are looking at what is

going on. what if you have a female child? whose rights have been taken away for the first time in the history of this country a supreme court took rights away from people. the path that they are on, it seems like they would like to do more than that. how about the number one killer of children in this country, which is gun violence. you had the bump stock ruling, the bizarre ruling that bump stocks don't turn conventional weapons into machine guns. tell that to all of the families and people who survived the shooting in las vegas. i think any time, god forbid, that there is a mass shooting involving bump stocks, clarence thomas, alito, and everyone who signed onto that opinion should be the ones who clean up the

crime scene and comfort all of the victims. you want to know why jd vance -- it has nothing to do with money. never mind the all of a sudden things with micro plastics. host: let's go to georgia, independent line. caller: hey, how are you doing, c-span? host: good. caller: my comment in regards to the democratic national convention, i'm not a democrat, however i will vote for mr. donald trump. the current constituents behind the democratic national convention don't uphold the original democratic oath in a

sense. meaning a forwardness of the government. the current constituent body in regards to the joe biden administration. and now it seems as if a vice president was strong initially, however now she is being puppet and. -- puppeted. it doesn't show the inclusion of african-american males, nor does it show the inclusion of, for instance, for magazines. mr. donald trump was at one time voted as one of forbes magazine's most influential persons. the defamation not personal, but chicago, illinois was accentuated as one

of the 344 dominant african-american communities. however, it had been full of violence. also, it is one of a severe headache of ku klux klan activity, meaning that if the rally shows what it shows, it is not really in a bias for a presidential candidacy. it is much less than the bias of -- host: let's go to florida, republican, good morning. caller: good morning. the first thing i wanted to do was address that young lady who called in earlier about what we wouldn't have if not for the democratic party. sad to say, she forgets her history.

no woman, black women or black man would ever be able to vote. if it were out of the democratic party, we would still be slaves. as far as i'm concerned, they want to put that in chains again. i do not understand what it is about kamala harris that all of a sudden has made her a star. i've lived in california 50 years of my life. i sold my home of 27 years because i could not take kamala or the democratic party. when people talk about trump being a liar and this and that, i have never heard one democrat keep a single promise that they have made, not a single one. i have, in fact heard from make promises and if not for the democrats blocking in every single step of the way, a lot more would have gotten done.

i listened to the democrat convention last night and for the most part i will say it was actually pretty good. i'm going to vote for trump, however, because i do believe in his policies. i am not a personality voter. kamala harris, and change is not her change. in my opinion, kamala harris is 1000% radical. you guys do not do your homework. you have buyers remorse when you voted for joe biden. as far as i am concerned, i would like to say democrats have been lying to you consistently starting with russia up until

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washington journal continues. host: welcome back. we are joined now by asma mohammed, a delegate and -- for minnesota. welcome to the program. guest: thank you. host: you are a delegate in the minnesota delegation, a lead organizer and a grassroots voter organization known as uncommitted minnesotans tell us about that. guest: we started back at the end of february and organized through the primary. organized 46 thousand voters to vote uncommitted to tell president biden that we weren't happy with his handling of the genocide in gaza and we wanted to end the genocide and see him take a stance against it because we want to win against donald trump in november, but we know

that voters aren't going to turn out unless we change policy on this issue. host: so what are the actual goals of uncommitted minnesota for selection? >> our goals are to get a permanent cease-fire. we do that by getting our delegates to talk to other delegates. the majority of democrats supported permanent cease-fire sleep and hearing a lot of support. we have delegate sign-on letters that we've been getting a lot of support for, and we've been talking about an arms embargo. for the first time, we actually heard on the main stage people talking about gaza, but those words aren't enough, we want to see actual policy. we've been negotiating talking to the harris campaign interworking to make sure that we hear about actual policy. host: and when you safe and talking to the harris campaign, what has the reaction been, who have you been talking to?

what details can you provide? guest: we are talking to the harris campaign to make sure that these policies come from the people and are going to save lives. after the dnc, we are hoping to talk with vice president harris and that what the ologies can look like and how they can come from community. just a few weeks ago our organizers met with her briefly in michigan to say we want to talk about an arms embargo and she said she would be willing to talk. and we are hopeful. we are hopeful that this can be meaningful policy that will save lives. yesterday's cease-fire could have meant lives saved today. host: regarding an arms embargo, this is a tweet from kamala harris' national security advisor who said this. she'll make sure israel is always able to defend itself against iran and iranian backed terrorist.

she is not support an arms embargo on israel. she will work to uphold international humanitarian all. is it realistic, to push for an arms embargo that would be a major departure for u.s. foreign policy? guest: absolutely. i think it is realistic because in this moment, thousand voters are asking for. it wouldn't have been realistic five months ago to ask for president biden to step aside and ask kamala harris to be the candidate for president that is what happened. i think we are in the realm of possible for a lot of things and asking for an arms embargo is not in the realm of impossible. so right now as voters are industry, as people are saying that this is what we want to see, we are seeing that this is what people want and we are seeing that this is going to save lives. we can't continuously funnel weapons knowing that they are violating international human rights laws and then say we are going to uphold that same law.

but i am doing this because i believe that we are the party that upholds human rights. we can't ask for that here and then not do it abroad. we can't say we are fighting fascism in the form of donald trump but not benjamin netanyahu. host: if you have a question or, for our guest, please give us a call. republicans, (202) 748-8001. , kratz, (202) 748-8000. independent, (202) 748-8002. telus a little bit more about your political background and how you became motivated to become a delegate. guest: i work on the democratic party campaign way back in the day. have worked on a lot of local campaigns, have volunteered. most recently volunteered to

help get representative ilhan omar reelected in the primaries, and hoping to get elected in november to go back to congress. just continuously working on down ballot races to make sure that, kratz when -- democrats win. uncommitted, i've always been committed and that always shown up for human rights, whether it be black lives matter, survivors of sexual violence, reproductive rights. i want to make sure that we do that across the board not just for americans, but for people abroad. host: and the new york times is reporting that netanyahu has agreed to a mediator cease-fire proposal according to antony blinken as reported by the new york times. it looks like it is hamas that is the hold up at least for this deal.

what do you think that the u.s. ministration can do more to influence a group like hamas? guest: i think we can stop sending weapons to the israeli government. i think what we over the asking for is no more bombs, and i think that goes for both sides. and a really think that what we are asking for, what we want to see is a cease-fire and arms embargo. a cease-fire deal, we want everyone to come to the table. we don't want any lives lost. israeli and palestinian families , if there is a cease-fire at the table. right now what we are seeing is that people aren't willing to come to the table because arms embargoes have not been valued. host: is your group also pushing for the release of israeli

hostages currently being held? guest: absolutely. host: let's go to the calls now and start with dan in santa barbara, california. good morning. caller:-following the protesters for months now since october and i'm wondering how come the protesters have never called for hamas to release the hostages? hamas to demilitarized or language power? iran and qatar to stop financing an army? all i protesters do is call for violent, murderous interception, cosplay as terrorists, played flags around. how do you expect people to be on their side and ally with you if this is all protesters are doing? guest: yeah.

so uncommitted nationals specifically have been focusing on making sure that we don't send weapons to the israeli government. we are asking for this specifically because we know that this is what is resulting in the massacre of palestinians. and i hear that, i hear what you're saying. i hear that you are hearing there are people that are protesting. i think they are protesting because they are in a lot of pain. people are losing family members. i heard from someone yesterday who has lost over 100 family members. as coming from a lot of pain and people are expressing in a lot of different ways. the reason we are putting pressure on the american government is because we are american. we are putting pressure on our voting system because we are democrats. i'm not sure about republican rallies and trump rallies because i am a democrat. i see power in my own party, i see power with my own president. this is where i will show up. i will show up to put pressure

raisi power. this is a party that has a really big tent and i think that means welcoming voices like mine who are saying that i want to fund public education, reproductive rights. and that means those believe that we are sending to a foreign military should be going to programs like that. host: and what are your plans for the rest of this week at the dnc and throughout the time from now until november? >> throughout the rest of the week we are talking to delegates. we are actually getting a lot of support. as we walked through the convention halls, people are coming up and saying i support you, what can we do? and we have a lot of cease-fire delegates who are pledged for vice president harris, but they also support a cease-fire and that is absolutely what we want. the democratic party is a big

tent. we want people from all walks of life within the democratic party to say that they support a cease-fire. so we are talking to those voters, both democrats who say that i believe in this candidate and i want a cease-fire. i want to put pressure on the vice president to adopt this as part of her platform, her campaign as a push for a policy because economic policy yesterday, it was different from president biden's economic policy, so she can release that meaning that she could deviate from his current policy on gaza and release something that voters want to see because that is actually how we win in november against donald trump. host: laurie is calling from youngstown, ohio. independent. caller: good morning. there is so much to say here. but thank you so much for standing up to the palestinians. i really appreciate that. i'm just sickened by what has been going on, and yes, our

government is funding a genocide. this is not a war between hamas and israel. this is a genocide, and i know everybody has hopes that kamala harris is going to change and joe biden is supporting and funding this genocide and i'm sorry to say i do not have any hope that she will do so. and i will tell you this. the mainstream media has sugarcoated this thing and keeps calling this. all they want to talk about is how people hamas is. it is the most despicable thing that i've ever seen in my entire life, and you know what, finally we have eyes on gaza, eyes on israel, and the mass murder that

they are committing. thank you again. host: any comment? guest: i think that voters are feeling a lot of grief and anger and they are feeling a sense of betrayal from the democratic party who have spoken out against human rights abuses here and have not spoken out when it happens abroad. and they want to see that parallel shown, they want to see the party that talks about rights for americans talk about the human rights of palestinians. host: washington, d.c., democrat. caller: i just want to ask what is the plan for trump taking office? i don't think that allowing trump to be back in office is going to fix the problem, so what is the plan if he gets back in? guest: absolutely, i hear you.

my plan is to get vice president harris to a point where she brings voters in so we don't get trump in office. as a muslim woman, a job -- hijab-wearing muslim woman, i have so much to lose during a trump presidency. i experience a hate crime during the first trump residency and they don't want that to happen again. my community knows that. we are the first on the chopping block during the trump presidency and simultaneously, this is an opportunity for vice president harris to bring in voters by saying that we need more. we need a cease-fire to be brought in. we need an arms embargo for us to be brought in. i'm a one issue voter in that issue is genocide. it is her moment right now when voters are excited and there are other voters were feeling grief and apathy, it is her moment right now to say not another bomb.

it is her moment to say uncommitted voters, i am bringing you in. it is her moment to say you know what, enough is enough. this needs to end. no more palestinian lives will be taken on my watch. >> there has been an effort to include a palestinian voice as a formal speaker at the convention. where does that effort stand right now? guest: yesterday we had the first ever panel the palestinian human rights at the dnc. it was an official dnc event at mccormick place. we had a palestinian leader, we had attorney general keith ellison moderating the event. we have the american institute and we had other leaders. we still have not heard back from the dnc on someone at the main stage. so we are still waiting to hear back but today is tuesday.

more than anything, we are waiting to hear a policy. i think these are important pieces that we haven't heard from many palestinian americans, and there are so many of them. were she did to leave is a congresswoman we could get -- rashida tlaib is a congresswoman we could hear from. there are many people he could hear from, but we haven't heard anything back. and i think that is a missed opportunity to bring democratic voters in who are feeling apathy, and also, is what people really want to hear, a change of policy. host: republican in ridgefield connecticut, good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. i never hear anybody talk about this. first of all, hamas attacked israel, not the other way around. secondly, americans were killed october 7.

thirdly, there are at least five hostages, still americans that are being held by hamas. this think could happen over on october 8 if hamas had surrendered. they can't beat the israelis. i am a veteran, i served in the vietnam war. i'm 78 years old. disproportional response is ridiculous. no veteran will tell you that is the way a war should be prosecuted. miss mohammed should be saying that hamas should surrender immediately, release all the hostages, and then they will be negotiations. this is an american issue as long as there are americans hostage. thank you. host: what did you think? guest: there are also american

palestinians who have been massacred. there have also been those in chicago where we are right now. a young palestinian boy who was six years old who was killed because he was palestinian. and i don't hear people talking about that at all. i don't hear people talking about the american doctors who went abroad and weren't allowed to come back. i don't hear people talk about bombs, and i do recognize the lies on october 7 and simultaneously want to grieve for the americans and the palestinians for the massacred daily. this is an american issue because my tax dollars are funding the death of people who look like me. i don't want to segregate people just because they are not american. that does not mean their lives are less important. i don't think that their lives should be taken because they are not americans. i don't want to separate that.

it is an american issue because my tax dollars should be spent for reproductive rights, public education, things like funding my health care. that is what i want my tax dollars to be going to instead spending millions funding weapons that are actually taking the lives of children every single day. i know all of us have seen images that are indescribable, but are deplorable. and you have been seeing that day in and day out. this didn't start on october 7. this started in 1948. with the occupation that has been going on for decades. and every palestinian that i know has had their land taken from them and has experienced death in their family because of the israeli military. host: diane in connecticut,

independent line. caller: yes. first of all, if you read the bible, you will see that moses got israel given to him by god. god gave israel to him and the palestinians moved in, came in and tried to take over. first of all, why you think united states should not support israel when israel has always been allied to the united states? second ball, israel did not start this war. hamas started. now you are complaining about genocide. if you had started the war in the beginning, it would not be happening now. your eyes need to be open to the truth. you need to read the bible, the christian bible. host: let's get a response. guest: i have read the bible.

muslims actually believe in the bible and the koran, the book that came before the karate, so thank you for that, i appreciate that. simultaneously like a said, this warden start on october 7, it started with the occupation. i was in palestine last year and jerusalem and in the west bank they were telling about a hospital in gaza. he was like hey, i have a friend who is going to be given a medical mission. there's only one hospital, only a couple of hospitals that have care for patients. there has been a lack of access to water, a lack of access to

easily accessible goods for us. so i think for us as americans to be able to frame that is really difficult. what i want us to remember is that our tax dollars are going to israel and could be going to things that would make our life easier. and as i continue reminding us, this is an american issue because it is our tax dollars. when we say not another bomb, we want education, we want reproductive rights, we want health care. host: democrat, california, good morning. caller: good morning. i agree with the last two callers that basically said what i wanted to say, but i would like to add that i have not heard any palestinians show any remorse or heartache and pain

for what hamas did to the israel's when they came and invaded and killed babies, raped women and all of that. i am not seeing palestinians being killed, but i would also like for you to acknowledge that it was hamad's -- thomas who started all of this mess. joe biden and the united states cannot handle being responsible for the disagreement that we've been having since the 1930-something. my main question is i never hear you acknowledge that they started it, they killed people, raped women and all of that. i don't hear any compassion toward what they did to israel, and i do not want to see palestinian babies killed.

host: go ahead. guest: thank you. i don't want to see babies killed, period. as we learned, and whether there has been debunked over time by the u.n. and by other investigative parties. i don't want to see any civilians killed, israeli, palestinian. i don't think that we shared that over and over again. i think it is disingenuous to say the palestinians don't want to see israelis killed. houston means don't want to see that. i think that it's really important to remember that palestinians are being killed right now because of u.s. weapons. my friend called me back in october when he was told there would be no u.s. put on the ground. he said the missile that landed in my neighborhood said u.s. on

it. and we are at a point right now when we can actually find out where exactly the factory was the missile came from. and that is terrifying. we sent $20 billion in u.s. aid to israel last. $20 billion that could have been used to save american lives, to put into our public education, to put into our health care, to put into making sure that all girls have access to pads and tan ponds at public schools, all kids have access to free and reduced lunch. those are things i want to see. i don't want to see my tax dollars used to kill children in my name.

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host: and we are back. it is a four hour program today. you can see on your screen the planetarium there on lake michigan in chicago. course, it is state two of the democratic national convention. we are taking your calls that we will start with a look at former president trump's campaign stop in pennsylvania ready talked about energy. >> i'm announcing today that when i returned to the white house i will lend the anti-american energy crusade and terminate, was -- kamala's power plant rule. our country will have no jobs by the time these communists and marxist destroy the country. probably can never come back, let's just say it. too much competition from other countries that are doing it right. we have a lot of competition out there. not only china, and another

competition. instead of shutting down our plants, we will open dozens and dozens more and they will happen fast. kamala stands for energy disappearance and factory obliteration. she will obliterate factories like this. i stand for american energy independence and manufacturing dominates. we are going to be dominating and manufacturing. we are going to be dominant in energy, too. not just getting it to take care of ourselves, we are going to be reducing our debt, lowering your taxes still. host: bthe way, we will have coverage of former president um speaking to supporters in michigan today. that is at the :00 p.m. he won that state in 2016. in 2020, preside ben one the swing state by a margin of less than 3%. we will have live coverage of the former's campaign stop starting at:0p.m. eastern

overrun c-span 2. also, on c-span now and at c-span.org. we will go to the calls now, to janet in camden, south carolina. democrat. caller: good morning. i am calling about your guest. and i was wondering if she understand that they are not the only one to have issues. and the president and vice president, they represent all the people. when netanyahu was here, he went down to mar-a-lago with donald trump. personally, this is my belief, that when donald trump told the

republicans to sink the bill for the border, and they did it, who knows what he and netanyahu talked about? he probably told netanyahu not to participate in the cease-fire so that the palestinians can have something to get joe and kamala harris for. and maybe he went back, as soon as he left here, there was a bomb. as soon as he left. so who knows what trump asked him to do, because they seem to be buddies.

host:host: sacramento, california, republican. good morning. caller: i wanted to say that your guest that you had on just a few minutes ago was so on point. she talked about gaza in a real way and about how it is in our name. america is not even one person. our government is made up by the people, and that is who we are. the people here are watching a genocide actually happen. hamas is not idealized by any palestinian right now in the world. but we act like every palestinian is hamas. as not true. just like every american didn't vote for trump, there are millions of people who melinda voted for harris. so we can be divided in a

country and call that when we see something deplorable happening. and not just in palestine. i'm 61 years old and we talked about humanitarian people like china and russia for doing inhumane things. we fought a war for hit there because all the humanity that was happening. no, i won't be voting for either party because of it, and i am not a one issue. i am just an issue that i see that our way of handling things, there has to be a better way. i do hope that our society moves to a better way and -- host: gloria in kansas, independent. good morning. caller: good morning.

i just wanted to make a comment to bag your guest. one thing, where they are out in the streets talking and stuff, from the river to the sea, she was saying that she didn't want israelis killed. tell it is all israelis. and another thing is they are chanting death to america and if she doesn't want to be an american, she should go back to #where she came from. host: to be fair, gloria, she never said that to america and i really don't believe that anyone believes that. they are definitely working within the system.

kevin is within georgia, democrat. good morning. >> yes. i watched the convention last night, it was great. it was awesome. my senator raphael warnock gave a very inspiring speech and people are getting tired from. and i'm going to vote for kamala harris and tim walz in november because we need something new. we need something fresh, and donald trump and whatever that guys name, vance is not it. host: gone is in san clemente california, good morning. caller: thank you so much for taking the call. jaime republican have a in on the republican line.

i am a reagan republican. interestingly enough, there is a group now called republicans for harris, and it is a really interesting concept, and i was just happy as a clam to feel like i am part of that same group right now. it's interesting. trumps common test from comes from the viagra and hair plugs generation. that is written egos get out of control, and that is where -- host: so tell me about your journey as a republican to voting for harris. caller: it starts like this. and people are despicable in character and they don't show ethical or moral compass, and they don't have the belief to have any empathy for anyone else and they have nothing to say but

negative lots about anything or anybody, that wears on the country. and what is worse about that is it is such an example for our children and for the younger generation. there's a lot of older people throughout the country who have a feeling that you could go back to the 50's when we had life of riley and father knows best but those are always examples of life. our country has changed. you have to accept the fact that we're in a country now of diversity and we have a world that needs positive energy, not negative energy. we've got plenty of negative energy. putin and nen yahoo! are exhibiting lots of negative energy. we don't need that, we need

positive energy. host: either way, ron mentioned republicans for harris. we did have former representative ray lahood from illinois on this program yesterday talking about that group so if you would like to take a look at that, that has been posted on our website. and alex in jersey city, new jersey. independent. caller: yes, good morning. i'm calling because now i am in independent. the reason i am an independent is because both the democratic party, republican party of late have no basis, no foundation anymore. the reason that i'm calling, earlier i was watching the young lady with the headrest from palestine. now, understand i am a libertarian. i believe in helping those that

are less fortunate. i believe that if you pay your taxes and work hard the government should protect you. as far as she is saying her tax dollars, well, i've got an idea. i also have pay taxes. i am now 67, with god's grace i will be 68. i'm a christian, a catholic. what happened on october 7 was horrible. murder and rape is not a way to fight a war. there are codes of conduct in war. and you don't go murdering civilians and raping women and murdering babies. as far as palestinians, they believed in terrorists, and they always have kyl innocence. 1972i believe the olympics in munich and they murdered the israeli limbic team.

host: this take a look at president biden, speaking to reporters as he was boarding air force one after the democratic national convention. here he is. >> they are nice. [indiscernible] >> i'm not focused on that at all. no one influenced my decision. no one knew it was coming. what i decided to do was to the extent that the party thought they could lose the house speaker, that would have been the topic you would have to cover the entire came name. the reception was pretty overwhelming.

go back and look at the numbers, we weren't that far behind. they talk about how we were getting blown out, that is not what we saw. but what happened was i could have cost seats for democrats, that would have been the whole subject matter for the remainder of the campaign. anyway. [indiscernible] >> i think he has a problem. let them play, but you know, it

is still in play. as of four hours ago, i've not spoken to my team in four hours. well, probably six hours now. i was told thomas is now backing off. -- hamas. host: a bit hard to hear that, but at the very end president biden mentioned his daughter introducing him at last nights's convention for his speech, and here is just a little portion of his reaction. >> i would like to introduce my father, your 46th president of the united states, joe biden.

♪ host: back to the calls now. david in capitol heights maryland, democrat. caller: good morning c-span and good morning to the american people. you all showed a video saying trump had said he is going to reduce taxes. he didn't indicate plans to

reduce taxes because he couldn't say it because 2023 and mar-a-lago, he told his millionaire friends i gave you all a $2.2 million tax break. you have to promise if i get you all and there, i'm going to get you four point $4 trillion tax break. and also, in a video in georgia, he said he was going to make them great. c-span had the video, and i would appreciate very much if you could show that video about what he said about the claims that i just mentioned. thank you and you all have a good day. host: don't forget you can look on our website for all of our video library. bolivia, north carolina, republican. caller: good morning.

i'd just like to point out when donald trump was president, we had an inflation rate of less than 2%. we had an energy policy that was the model for the world. we were energy independent, we were selling energy. in the first thing joe biden did in office was to kill the keystone pipeline, to launch policies that put us in the position we are in that race inflation, that drove up the gas prices at the pump. and the media in error country -- in our country had joe biden in their last election in the basement and allowed him to not come out and do the same thing with kamala harris now.

she is not being held accountable for what went on in this last administration. joe biden's cognitive abilities, she lied to the american people. she was appointed to control the situation at the border and denies that that was ever her responsibility. it was just never imported and it is frustrating to look at where we were four years ago and where we are now. host: kevin, arkansas, independent. good morning. i'm in agreement with the caller from north carolina. that this election is the america first crowd against everybody else. the media is so involved.

a couple weeks before biden stepped down we saw his performance, he can't win. a week before that, they talk about, look. her numbers were even -- about kamala. and then when a coup comes around and forces, which of course they did, everything is hunky-dory now. she is the second coming and is going to fix everything. the truth is we won't have a clue what is going on, she just says yes to whoever is in front of her. she has been on every side of every position. but black man in jail in california for crimes and then lets other crimes go. there are so many murders out there. but for c-span, though, sorry if c-span lost a little revenue because i don't spend on cable,

i do use the app which is rough because it chops everything up, you have to turn it back on all the time. and now c-span is begging for money. i'm sorry, if c-span wasn't just almost as biased as msnbc and cnn, i might be interested in supporting. i really appreciated brian and the work they did years ago, but today's c-span is not your parents c-span. it's all about the narrative and pushing the same narrative. kamala is going to ride a bump. they are going to push joe out and impeach him so that she can get the title of 47 before the actual election to try to have an october bump. don't you think it particular? host: you believe the democrats are going to impeach joe biden? caller: look at the new story.

the new story, joe biden is guilty of impeachable acts. he was guilty of impeachable acts the first day he came in with the executive orders the past. he's been guilty of impeachable acts, in my opinion, when he let 13 servicemen died because he was in a rush to get out of afghanistan before the september anniversary of 9/11. he didn't have to pull those people out, he didn't have to switch to the airbase in the middle of the city that got people killed. he didn't have to ignore these generals. of course, nobody got fired, the media just rolls along with it. doesn't like to think about it. to me, i'm independent, i'm not a republican because republicans are -- let the republican you had for harris, he's performative.

his hate for donald trump is what motivates him, not his desire to make the country better, but his hatred for donald trump. and unfortunately hate is a very powerful thing. host: we got your point and that the media and we are going to move on to teresa in delaware, democrat. caller: good morning to you. i want c-span to know that my family used to be republican i was a young girl, but then as i was in school i had a teacher, mr. newman who taught a class, i actually got biden to come to the school, to speak to the school and he was wonderful. i am african-american, biden is white. i can only tell you from personal experience that we as a country have to be argued back and forth.

a democrat against a republican. we all should come together, we all be looking at god. i was so happy that he brought the bible into part that convention because we all need to look at ourselves. are we treating people fairly? i can only tell you that biden came to the school, he is a down to earth guy. i don't agree with all the decisions he has made, however when we are looking to vote, we have to see which person is going to do the best for the country, not for the moment, but for all four years. so i am voting for the vice president and thewalz guy. i didn't know nothing about him but we all have to take a step back and say what are we doing? are we helping the world? we can't keep blaming race and

hate and i think that is what trump stands for. thank you for taking my calls. host: hyattsville, maryland, republican. caller: good morning. this is jay calling from the powerhouse, added c-span viewers, the crazy 88. we are up to 70 members right now. i want to make a couple of comments. first, i want to congratulate you. you've been taking on the host list, the way she quickly cuts off people. caller: host: i'm not going to let you through shade on my colleagues, so go ahead with what you want to say. caller: you are now in the most interactive host awards, i want to congratulate you for that. you have people who share their thoughts, you interact with people. i hope you interact with me for the two points i want to make.

biden is breaking the law. the lady act forbids the federal government to provide assistance to any country that is found guilty of breaking international humanitarian law. right now, benjamin netanyahu and his conflict -- i don't: a war because it is a genocide going on. the conflict in gaza is breaking the act. and every time that biden provides aid to israel while this is going on, he is breaking the act. can you break that so i can be fact checked? host: host: let me see what i can do. state.gov leahy law. refers to two statutory provisions prohibiting the u.s.

government from using funds for assistance of units of foreign security forces where there is credible information implicating that unit in the commission of gross violations of human rights. caller: human rights organizations, the united nations, the israeli human rights organization all have said that these atrocities are breaking international law. the second thing i want to say -- was shocked you had a pro-palestinian guest on. it's like once a year. the second thing i wanted to say is every time somebody mentions october 7, they need to keep in mind -- if you have more pro-palestinian guests on they would know about the hannibal protocol. the hapb balance proet --

hannibal protocol, before hostages are taken, kill combatants. including hostages. the israeli newspaper reported on october #, the hapb balance -- hani balance prokohl that the i.d.f. killed some israeli citizens as well as some hamas people. that could be another real time fact check you can fact check me in real time. the hannah ball -- hannibal -- host: we don't have time unfortunately. more to come with your phone calls after the break we will be talking to. alexandre burgos.tacking pwhr-te

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>> "washington journal" continues. host: welcome back to "washington journal." we are joined now by alexandre burgos who is a d.n.c. delegate at large for new york. also government and community relations officer for upstate new york black and latino pride, welcome to the program. guest: thank you for having me. host: can you just start telling us about your political background and how you got motivated to become a delegate. guest: growing up i had always been very engaged in active citizenship. my father served in the u.s. army when he came to the u.s. from puerto rico. he started a small business and my mother was a buffalo public school teacher, now retired. so we always were active in the public sector. we were always very active in civic engagement and community engagement. and what led me to enter into the world of politics was seeing

the changes and voices that needed to be reflected in my community. and with that i got involved in my local committees. i worked on various campaigns. and today i am now a delegate at-large for new york state. host: you are government and community relations officer for an organization called upstate new york black and latino pride. can you tell us about that organization. guest: yes. upstate new york black and latino pride was founded about four years ago by myself and jones and a coalition of friends to amplify and uplift lgbtq communities of color in upstate new york and beyond. the organization has grown tremendously to offering programs year-round centered around the health and wellness of lgbtq+ people of color. art and culture, workforce development. specific engagement and advocacy as the organization myself, we have been involved very heavily in the legislative process at

the local level, the state level, and the federal level to make sure that the most vulnerable voices were reflected during the decisionmaking process. i also serve on new york state governor kathy hochul's hate and bias prevention unit. i was appointed last year. we have done a lot of work in creating public awareness around public safety policy and combating homegrown and international domestic terrorism. host: alexandre burgos, the party platform was passed by the delegates last night. did you or your organization play a role in any of that? guest: not for the direct creation of the platform. as a delegate at-large we pledge our votes to supporting the platform and to supporting the candidate. i am extremely confident and happy with the platform that the democrats are putting forth for the people this year. i think that there is a stark

contrast between the platform that's being presented by the republican side and the platform that's being presented on the democratic side. as you can see on the democratic side, our platform is entered -- centered around working people, your everyday american, people who for so long felt like they didn't have a voice. what i want people to know is that in this white house you have an ally. you have a voice. and i'm incredibly excited and honored to be a delegate and continue having conversations with voters all over the country. host: regarding lgbtq+ issues specifically, how does the platform address those? guest: the harris-walz platform really is a continuation of the work that they have always done. if you look at governor walz's track record, he worked at a school and he empoud e.g.s.a.'s, supported lgbtq students, and the community. if you look at vice president harris' track record, she's been

incredibly effective and supportive of our community. i think that the democratic platform is not only a reflection of the work that they have done for their entire careers, it's a reflection of where we are going as a country. it's a strong message we will not go back. we will not be shoved back in the closet and our rights will be strengthened, protected, and restored in states where they had been infringed upon. i'm incredibly excited for the progress that we are going to make as an lgbtq community nationwide. but i also want to give a shout out to our new york state governor, kathy hochul, who has been a tremendous ally for our community since day one and has ensured that new york state is safe haven for lgbtq community. host: i want to ask you quickly about the r.n.c. this is an article from nbc news with the headline, rn.c. speakers lean into homophobic and transphobic rhetoric. the article says homophobic and transphobic remarks were

unmistakably present during the first through days of the r.n.c. in milwaukee. a dozen speakers so far mentioned gender or sexuality negatively in their speeches, according to nbc news analysis. what's your reaction to that? guest: i think that that analysis is correct. if you have seen project 2025, its platform anti-folks supporting it -- and the folks supporting it, many of them are not friends to the lgbtq community, many have had careers centered around dismantling our rights and freedoms. as a people we should be alarmed. we should be concerned. most of all we should be activated. engaging our communities and empowering people to get out there and sroed. also being a support line -- vote. also being a support line for people around different states where they may not have supportive service, service line gaps, policy that protects them. as i mentioned, in new york state our governor has worked tremendously hard ensuring we

are a safe haven for people who live in new york or people who are coming to new york to feel protected. host: we are taking your calls for our guest, alexandre burgos, on our lines by party. republicans, 202-748-8001. democrats, 202-748-8000. independents, 202-748-8002. we are going to be taking your calls shortly here from our studio in chicago. by the way we do want to thank the crew for allowing us to set up in their studio there in chicago with the very beautiful views of downtown chicago. we'll be there throughout this d.n.c. week. alex, your organization also advocates for hispanic and african-americans. can you tell us a little bit about why you think support among those groups has declined from 2020 to today for the democratic ticket.

guest: i want to divide that question up into two pillars. i want to address two points for that. when you are looking at the lgbtq community and communities of color as a whole, lgbtq people of color face a unique set of challenges that folks who identify solely as people of color or solely members of the lgbtq community do not face because they have both aoeutds intertweupbd and -- intertwined and have a unique experience. their forms of discrimination are exacerbated from holding multiple identities at one. i'm proud to have carved out a unique space for a segment of the community that doesn't feel heard but often is the most impacted by social change. is the motion negatively impacted by policy. and in fact, the human rights campaign has issued a state of emergency in some states. and they have expressed that we have experienced one of the worst years for anti-lgbt

policy. and this has a direct on our youth's mental health and social well-being. and to tackle the second part of the question, where support has declined amongst communities of color, i think that the harris-walz campaign has been incredibly open. i think that going to battleground states and talking to voters right on the ground where they are at, they are addressing a lot of the concerns that folks have. and i think when you look at what's happening on the other side, that same sense of engagement is not happening. that same sense of urgency to make people feel like they are part of the process and there is a platform that's properly representing their voice is not happening. if you look at the platform on the other side, it represents the interests of the wealthy. it represents the interests of those who are not disenfranchised. if you look at the platform of democrats, it seeks to strengthen protections. it seeks to strengthen the middle class. and so we have a lot of work to

do to continue to engage voters and make sure everybody feels welcomed in our democratic party and in our democratic process. i'm proud of the work that the party has done as well as the harris-walz campaign. but there is much more work to be done to address a lot of the real needs that folks have every day and ensure their values and views are represented. host: do you have specific advice for the harris-walz campaign regarding outreach to those communities? guest: i think that the harris-walz campaign has taken a very strategic and innovative approach f you look at the media outreach, particularly on x and instagram, they have done a good job of addressing youth turnout and getting some youth momentum going. i haven't seen this level of youth excitement in a very, very long time. he so it's very exciting to see younger voters engaged. i think that those younger voters are really going to be the keystones to getting their

folks engaged. and again the harris-walz campaign is about everybody. they are working with everybody across the board. and they are working with folks in the community on the ground. and those community stories will be the folks that mobilize folks to not only get involved, knock on doors, campaign, and feel energized about the momentum that we are all feeling in the party, and as voters of harris-walz, they'll be able to address the needs and concerns and get folks who may be undecided or unsure or maybe have some additional questions to get out there and commit to the campaign. i think once those engagements happen and people have the opportunities to have those conversations with people on the ground, you are going to see a lot of people feeling -- even more excited about this campaign. host: talk to callers now. amy's up first shelbyville, indiana, republican, good morning. caller: good morning. i wanted to ask you in this land

of freedom, which we are, the united states of america, what rights have you been prevented from having, and does your advocacy extend into elementary schools? host: when you say advocacy in elementary schools, can you clarify, amy? caller: books, and things like that. in elementary libraries. host: all right. guest: you know, amy, first of all thank you very much for your question. and for your time today. i do want to emphasize that when we are looking at elementary school and youth advocacy, as we are looking in schools the republican side has sought to dismantle d.e.i. they have instituted book bans. either in school districts and other municipalities. but it's incredibly important that information be free and that it be unrestricted.

and it's important for folks to know their history. you want to see the full scope and the full lens of things so we can have citizens across the country that are as educated as possible. but also understanding that learning about another person's experience or another group's experience is not as bad as actually having lived it. we have to know these unique experiences. we have to understand history. so we don't fall in the mistake of making it again. when we are looking at elementary school advocacy, this taps into public safety. i have done a lot of public safety work. i think in buffalo in particular we have been very traumatized as a region by the 514 mass shooting. a blizzard amongst a myriad of other issues that has impacted the well-being of our entire community. quite frankly the fabric of our entire nation. when we are looking at even issues like public safety, we

are advocating for students to have the right to live. to go to school and feel safe every day. to not have to think about mass shootings. it's unfortunate that the reality of america has become that this is happening way too frequently. we shouldn't hear about this all the time on the news where we have mass shootings happening in schools or in supermarkets where people are being shot simply because of the color of their skin. i'm very proud of the work i have done. i'm very proud of our vice president and the work that she will continue to do as president. you know what, i'm very proud of the work that we are going to do to serve everybody and unify the whole country. people don't have to agree with us. they don't have to agree with our platform, we do have to agree with the fact we are all americans. we all live in the same country. we love this country. and we want to make it a better place. host: talk to michelle next in wisconsin, democrat. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my

call. i just have a few comments. my husband and i have been married for 35 years. and still are married. guest: congratulations. caller: we support the lgbtq community people 100%. we know a lot of people that chose their life that way. we support them. we support their freedoms and the right to exist. and to have their marriages, whatever they want to do with their lives. if they are happy with that, who are we to say or take those rights and freedoms away. another thing is like the lady brought up before, about book banning. that's ridiculous. people need to know history. i get betpudled when i see black african-americans, latinos, and hispanics who support the republicans when they protect

nothing but hate and fear into those kinds of people. if they would read up on history, they would realize that the people that they are supporting in the republican party really are not for those people or for the lgbtq. and another thing is, women have a right to their own bodies to make their own decision when is it comes to reproductive rights and everything. to have our health care protected. both for every single citizen in the united states. you don't get to pick and choose who gets it and stuff. everybody needs to have health care. because that just goes to the die tphapl -- throws the dynamics completely out. thank you so much for taking my call. good luck. host: go ahead, alexandre burgos. guest: thank you for calling. i want to just amplify a lot of the comments she made. every american shouldn't have to

think about how they are going to access health care or whether health care is affordable. i think that the harris-walz platform campaign and the presidency will address that. but if you look at our current presidency and current administration, they have done significant work to address the health care needs of many americans. capping the price of insulin. taking on the big pharmaceutical industry. and this is work done bile while our current president -- work done while the current presidential nominee was vice president and still is vice president. and i think she'll exkpapbd on this work when she takes on the administration. host: a comment from you on jay sanders on x. mr. burgos has chosen theig party for extreme identity politics. harris' first thing candidate was sponsor a zoom meeting based upon identity. dividing the country by identity is divisive. what do you say to that?

guest: i am so proud to be gwen z, latino, openly lgbt delegate at-large for new york state. there was one point in my life i never thought this would have been possible. i'm so proud that i have a democratic party that has carved out space not only for myself to have the opportunity to be elected when for so long people like myself could not run for office because it was considered career suicide, or where folks didn't have the right to vote. i'm so proud that i live in a country where we have a democratic party. you can call it the party of identity politics, but i call it the party that celebrates everybody regardless of what their identity is. guest: damian next in laurel, maryland, a republican, good morning. caller: hi. good morning. guest: good morning. caller: good morning c-span listeners. my old c-span listeners.

you are on the hot seat. i'm maga. i lean maga. and i'm going to definitely vote for trump. my thing is we are not getting -- i believe in live and let live. the thing that some of the gay people are doing are weird. like i don't believe that paeurpblgts -- parents have the right to bring their child to the doctor for transition, hormone transition. and sex transition. that's crazy. that's crazy, dude, you can't even vote until you are 18. how can you have this sex change drastic operation when your parents are going to allow it, that's crazy to me. host: let's get a response, alexandre burgos.

guest: i believe that health care and family's decisions and decisions of children on behalf of their parents should be reserved to them. everybody should have the independence and autonomy to make the health decisions that they feel are best for them. and consult with their doctors. i don't know if you hold any medical credentials or licenses to formulate that opinion. but i do sincerely believe that folks have the right to make decisions for themselves. that's really part of the freedom of the fabric of america is that we were founded upon the freedoms and independence. again, that is a decision that is left to folks. i obviously as a member of the lgbtq community support our protections, including our health care protections to make our own decisions and to seek medical care that is appropriate for us.

host: jim in pearl river, new york, democrat. good morning. caller: good morning. i just wanted to note that there is an equal rights amendment on the ballot this year in new york state. important amendment. secondly, i live in new york 17, pearl river, jones, wonderful progressive, former congressman, should be in congress now, is running against. he's a gay man. and he's opposed by someone who wants to take us backwards. michael lawler. the present incumbent who is closely aligned with michael johnson and the rest of the regressives. have a good day. host: alexandre burgos. guest: thank you for your comment. yes, that will be on the ballot in new york state this november. i have done an enormous amount of advocacy work in public

awareness and talking to some of our state legislators to push for the new york state equal rights amendment. and that will really-ily strengthen protections and expand upon whole coverage for really everybody to be under protected glasses regardless of who the presidential administration is. host: hear from dan next in oregon, republican. hi. caller: good morning. hi a comment -- i had a comment for this young fella. there is a long-standing myth about the republicans being a party of the rich. when you look at the democrat supporters like zuckerberg, soros, buffet just to maim a fes have become the party of the rich. it's never been that way with the republicans. they have always supported smaller businesses and the working man. i just wanted to make that

comment. host: what are your thoughts on that, alexandre burgos? guest: if you look at trump's platform and his track record, i mean he has evaded paying taxes and he supports tax cuts for the wealthy. whereas democrats seek to get billionaires to pay their fair share of taxes. in many cases your average working person pays more taxes than large corporations. democrats have always been pro-small business. i have seen it on the local level all the way to the federal level. and if you read the platform and read it in depth, the democratic platform seeks to strengthen and expand the middle class, and expand small business and to strengthen employment. if you look at the biden-harris administration, they created 15 million jobs. they have a record low unemployment rate. this is coming out of a global pandemic where president trump

was, quite frankly, an incredibly poor performer and not well equipped and did everything in his power to keep folks from moving the needle forward for our working class and middle class americans. host: alexandre burgos, your organization advocates for what are called underserved communities. is the primary focus there economic? guest: i don't think you can separate any form of disenfranchisement from economic disenfranchisement or any other forms, they are all intertwined. again, when you are looking at folks who are not only very diverse, but have multiple lefts of disenfranchisement disenfrant impacts their day-to-day life and the outcome they can attain for their lives, everything gets taken into account. when you are at communities as a whole, there is no such thing as a one-size-fits-all issue that impacts the community that can

get resolved and all of a sudden everything is perfect. every single issue touches the underserved communities we are serving as an organization. also if you are looking at the overall demographics of buffalo, i live on buffalo's west side. the west side has three neighborhoods, the lower west side side, west side, upper west side. lower west aside is a neighborhood, according to the u.s. census, that has the highest concentration of poverty including ethnic the concentrated poverty. the upper west side is the fourth poorest planning neighborhood in the entire city. the east side on buffalo also faces issues. we have seen how systemic racism can impact communities. we have seen how this investment impacts communities. but i know that democrats, not only at the local level but at the federal level, are committed

to addressing that, committed to reading vibrant communities, committed to expanding the working class, committed to lifting folks out of poverty. so i'm very proud not only of our party, but separate from my political work in our party, the work my organization is doing to strengthen individuals, empower them, but also make sure they have a voice during the legislative process. host: alexandre burgos is a delegate at large from new york, also government and community relations officer for upstate new york black and latino pride. thanks so much for joining us. guest: thank you for having me. host: more of your calls next on this week's democratic national convention and the presidential race. you can start calling in now. republicans, (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002.

first, c-span visited the chicago history museum for exhibition curator elizabeth mahoney walked us through a portion of the exhibition called "designing for change: chicago protest art of the 1960's and 1970's." here it is. >> the chicago history museum features an exhibit called designing for change. we are here with the curator ms. elizabeth mahoney. what was your goal in creating this exhibition? >> it was to showcase the important role in that chicago artists and designers played in social movements of the 1960's and 1970's. this is a banner of the youth international party known as yippies. they were here in chicago during the 1968 democratic national convention. an unknown member of the organization created this banner and kay read it in one of their demonstrations.

it features very interesting design. that is the eye of providence. you would recognize that if you turn your dollar bill over and see it there as well, and it is floating above the word "now" and the message is to end the vietnam war, which is one of the goals of the yippies, as well as creating a new counterculture value, including the legalization of drugs. this banner was donated by members of the chicago seed to the chicago history museum in 1968 shortly after the uprising at the dnc. chicago seed was a popular underground newspaper published in chicago in the 1960's and 1970's. they started as a hippie type publication but they took on more serious issues as the

vietnam war escalated and became more deadly. they a leading advocate to end the war now, employed a number of very talented artists who were in chicago at the time, to create these really dynamic and vibrant covers. they became known as the most beautiful underground newspaper in chicago. this is a vinyl cut print by the artist carlos cortez, originally from milwaukee, but in chicago during the 1960's, spent the rest of his life here. he was a conscientious objector during world war ii, so you see his own history reflected in this work of art. it depicts a young drafty receiving his draft notice, standing with a group of military figures from vietnam and the united states. in the background is a figure of death. so the message is very clear,

but he makes it even clearer with his wording. draftees of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your generals. a famous quote from karl marx, communist manifesto, which is workers of the world unite. but he changed it to create an antiwar message. >> connect this collection to that one over there. >> the most obvious connection is the antiwar poster that you see in the top row center. that was created by estelle carol, founding member of the chicago women's graphics collected. they were a part of the women's liberation movement which was very strong in chicago. they believed art played an important role in social change. they created these beautiful silkscreen posters in studios on the north side not far from where we are today, and distributed them throughout the nation. you can see they addressed a

wide variety of issues, in addition to the more, a poster for abortion, also created by estelle carol. one of my favorites, economic justice for women, equal jobs, good childcare. women are not chicks. really nice, bold statement against sexist behavior and language. the health care is also so relevant. the model there is that health care is more people, not for profit. they were very timely posters then and i still think they remain so today. this is a story about the national alliance of black feminists, and organization founded in 1975 in chicago. it was an organization that focused on issues related to black women. they were affiliated with the graphics collected, chicago women's liberation union, other organizations like n.o.w., but

they had their own set of concerns. this organization addressed then. they also had their own signs and symbols that expressed what their cause was. the banner up above, which we agree created for the exhibition, features a pair of black women's hands breaking the twin shackles of racism and sexism. they had a unique set of issues they were dealing with that was separate from white women's issues, all in there with -- although there was a lot of overlap, connections. if you look at the photograph, you can see the picture created by estelle carol or the chicago women's graphics collected. the title for that is "sisterhood is blooming." sisterhood will never be the same. that is a poster celebrating the women's movement, a new day

dawning, they hoped for women. >> olivia mahoney, thank you for your time. >> washington journal continues. host: we are back on the second day of the democratic national convention. we will be with you here on washington journal until 11:00 a.m. eastern time. we are taking your calls. we go to james in albuquerque. republican. caller: hello. i wanted to make a few comments. changing, having a sex change for a child under 18 is not health care. that is pretty much the lie of the democratic party. another thing, these people protesting, gays for palestine, gays for hamas, they are misinformed, and of course the people are paid to go out and protest.

i wanted to ask a question to your guest, if he knows, when you go to these areas like iran, these muslim nations, they will kill you if you come out. they will throw you off of a building. they are totally against that. they don't have the same rights that they do here in the united states. gays have the same equal rights as heterosexual people in this country. they are able to work, have a job, go to college, have a family, buy a house. everything else that everyone has they have equal rights. they are constantly complaining they don't have rights. voter id, i want to touch on this real quick. everyone in this country is able to get an id. this is the reason why --

because they will have free and fair elections if everyone had voter id. no people committing fraud during elections. why they are so against voter id is for that reason, because they know that if everybody had to show an idea that a federal election, the democrats would never be in control of the white house ever again. it is a legal thing. everybody has an idea in this country. it is a lie that they spew out there that nobody can get an id. it is not true. everybody in the united states has some form of id. host: michelle is in los angeles, california. democrat. caller: good morning. i had a question regarding the dnc. bernie sanders is speaking tonight. in 2016, many of his supporters felt disenfranchised and left the democratic party. what advice would you give his

speechwriters, if they haven't finished his speech tonight, to bring former bernie supporters back into the democratic party to support kamala harris? host: tell me, what would you advise? caller: i would just kind of tell them to get over it. [laughter] but you cannot say that. it is really a difficult thing. i don't know. i have made a lot of friends with people who are former bernie bros, if you will. most of them have come back. even though they registered as independents, they will usually vote up and down the democratic ticket. the caller right before us, the republican, i have a bone to pick with republicans and some independents saying it is the democratic party, not the democrat party.

this whole getting away from labels, saying stuff, is a way to pick at the party. in the same way that bernie sanders supporters don't see that the democratic party really is the path forward in november for them, for this whole country . especially if you look at project 2025. if you look at the issues most important to you, look at the party that is the best party to serve your needs, and that really is the democratic party. host: let's go to the republican line. tennessee. rose, hello. caller: i don't understand this pride. you are proud of what, anal sex? host: let's go to raymond and

silver spring, maryland. democrat. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. i want to ask the question, are you better today than four years ago? absolutely we are. four years ago, hundreds and thousands of americans were dying from mismanagement of the pandemic by donald trump. also i want to challenge any republican to call in this morning and remind us one program, one bill that the republican party has given the country in the past several decades? let me remind you of what the democratic party has given us. we have had the chips act, prescription drugs have been

lowered, there is peace, stability, obamacare has helped millions of people with health insurance. not only does the republican party not want to do anything anymore, they want to take away. infrastructure never used to be a debate because you have roads and bridges all over the country, but they didn't vote for it. it is always the democratic party delivering for the american people. please wake up and vote democrat. thank you. host: mimi in virginia. independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. i'm calling about the election and especially republicans and the hypocrisy that the republicans seem to promote. they want to ban books, not

guns. they want to ban abortion but not the death penalty. they want to cut funding that helps children. they want to be tough on crime, but most of them have never even been a victim of crime. cut education but their kids go to private schools. i live not too far from charlottesville, where the klan was marching, saying that jews will not replace us. republicans also claim to be pro-israel. there was a muslim ban by trump. saudi arabia was not included because he said they paid in cash, he elected them. they say they are christians, but he was unfaithful to his wife with a born star -- porn star. most people don't live in border

states, but most of trump's wives were immigrants. and most of his orders are not rich so you will not benefit from his tax cuts. if you are an independent and you want to weigh the issues, i would lean democrat. i just don't understand the hypocrisy of his followers. host: let's take a look at secretary of state antony blinken. he was with reporters in tel aviv yesterday, talking about his meeting with prime minister netanyahu. [video clip] >> very constructive meeting with prime minister netanyahu today. he confirmed to me that israel except the proposal, that he supported. it is now incumbent on hamas to do the same. and then the parties, with the help of the mediators, united states, egypt, qatar, have to come together and complete the process of reaching clear understandings about how they will implement the commitments

they have made under this agreement. but the next important step is for hamas to say yes, and then in the coming days, for the expert negotiators to come together and work on clear understandings on implementing the agreement. these are still complex issues. they are going to require hard decisions by the leaders. ultimately it comes down to those decisions. but there is, i think, a real sense of urgency, here, across the region, on the need to get this over the finish line, and to do it as soon as possible. the united states is deeply committed to getting this job done, to getting it done now. host: that was secretary of state blinken. when you are looking at now is a live shot from chicago, the democratic national committee and is going on right now as we speak. here is lanita, republican in alabama. good morning.

caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. your last two callers, i don't know what planet they come from. that is beside the point. it is easy to criticize. first of all, the democrats are so hyped up on roe v. wade. first of all, if the parents were teaching their children that you do not do things to become pregnant, that is the first step. the second step is, if they are taught right from wrong, they will not end up getting pregnant and have to have an abortion. second of all, abortion is murder, i don't care who you are, what you are from, what your belief is in christianity, i don't care. murder is murder. as far as the things that the democrats are saying, everything

that has come out on biden's mouth last night is a total lie. host: i want to ask you about abortion. you said teaching your kids to do the right thing. what about in the cases of rape and incest? caller: rape and incest, there is an option there. what i am saying is -- and i know this firsthand. i have been around it. if the parents were teaching the children and taking them to church and teaching them right from wrong, and not letting the drag queens and all of this stuff come into the schools, we wouldn't be having this stuff. the bible says god made man and woman. that is what the bible says. host: let's talk to mike in brentwood, tennessee. democrat. good morning. caller: yes, hi.

i am 74 years old, retired, on a fixed income. i don't like inflation anymore than anybody else does. but i don't think any politician has any real control over inflation. if they did, we would never have any, because it sure doesn't get them any votes. i don't understand why people think trump is some kind of magical wizard economically. people forget that the eight years before trump came in, inflation was 1.4 for eight years. under trump, it was 1.9. so, there you go. that was then, this is now. everything trump is talking about doing if he gets back in, like the 60% tariffs on imports, that will raise the price on everything. we will have inflation like you have never seen before.

people talk about two dollars a gallon gas under trump. that is because everything was closed down. there was no place to go. and here we have a man who tried to put in fake collectors -- el ectors, he wanted to find votes, sat there for three hours watching the capitol being torn up. i don't care if gas is two cents a gallon. i don't see how anybody can vote for the man. host: ralph is next in washington, d.c. independent. caller: first of all, both parties -- when you say i'm a hard-core republican no matter what, you should take an iq test. that is the first thing. since i don't like both parties, i look at [indiscernible]

the biden administration has attacked trump using the legal system. he had this many felonies. the moment he announced he was going to run for election, they turn the system against him. later in the system against any enemy they happen to have. elon musk has 15 rockets being allowed to launch, but now that he came out with an interview on x, the faa canceled all of those things. he has 1200 block to go and's on top of -- investigations on one of his companies. it is complete harassment, trying to destroy your enemy using the legal and administrative system. one last point. when you start saying about abortion, and you have your vice president saying i want abortion

until the last minute, compare it to europe when you say 20 weeks, 12 weeks, you have to make a decision, then you pull out some numbers. what about rape and incest? you use that to justify 500,000 abortions in the country a year over 5000 late-term abortions. how about some regulations instead of i have unlimited rights to do whatever i want? now we are going to have a post birth abortion. do you guys have any morals or ethics? is this kind of a satan cult? we are going to start killing babies? host: roy is in palm beach, florida be written republican. caller: good morning. how are you doing? i am calling about the issue at hand.

it is supposed to be about the democratic national convention, correct? i have not heard one person speak about that. i hope as many people such as i who up until the very end, where joe biden came out to speak, i which has many people as i stayed up to watch that in full. because he put the last nail in the coffin of the democrats even having a chance of winning this next election with kamala harris. i prayed to god -- and i am a god-fearing christian. i pray to god that that did it right there because he started rambling on about things for 55 minutes which have already been debunked which are not true. going back to charlottesville -- you understand what i'm talking about. this has got to stop, all the fighting between both parties. we are one nation.

in the eyes of god. created by god. going back to the days of our founders. what is happening with our country right now, political system, everybody going at it. it is not right. anyway, i am a donald trump supporter. i live five miles from mar-a-lago. i pray to god, like i said earlier, as many people stayed up to want the convention as i did because people are going to start waking up. host: all right, roy. if you did not stay up, we have it on our website at c-span.org. you can watch at your leisure there. jay is calling on the line for democrats. pooler, georgia. good morning. caller: how are you doing? i am just calling to talk about the man that spoke before i did.

he says he is a christian. he is a hypocrite. anyone who says they are a christian and claim to support donald trump, donald trump was found guilty of sexual assault, donald trump is a cheat, donald trump is a fraud. all the stuff. the 10 commandments in the bible, you go through the 10 commandments, it is all referred to donald trump. donald trump should never be president again. never, never. thank you. host: santa larry is in green cove springs, florida. independent line. caller: good morning. i would like to address an issue that nobody seems to address, and that is black on black crime. that is the number one issue in a black community. when you are a black person walking down the street in a black community, they are not

worried about some stupid ass -- host: logan in new bedford, massachusetts. republican. good morning. caller: good morning. i am calling about the guy that was on two spots before me. saying some shit about democrats. look at democrats and republicans, look at how the rallies are, you can see the difference of the people in the country. anyone voting for biden this year, kamala, you have it all messed up. you have to look at how he was doing when trump was president compared to now. anyone who says they are doing better now, i don't know. everyone was better off when trump was president. he has done everything good for this country. biden and kamala only do stuff good for other countries, sending money to ukraine, what's that called, the inflation to. that didn't do nothing but inflation. that is only for fracking or

whatever. that does nothing for inflation. we need trump, the businessman, who needs to run the country. host: let's take a look at some behind the scenes of the long security lines on day one of the dnc. this was from yesterday. >> we are here outside the united center in chicago where the democratic national convention is set to kick off today. this line is for media and volunteers to pickup their credentials, then go through magnetometer is run by the secret service that way. this line is about 45 minutes along. usually on the first day it takes longer to get in. there are different levels of credentials, different passes, giving you access to different areas of the security perimeter. some will get you inside the perimeter, others inside the convention itself. others will get you inside the skyboxes or on the actual floor. tonight, president biden is set to deliver the keynote address.

later in the week, you'll hear from former president bill clinton, former president barack obama. wednesday, governor tim walz is scheduled to accept the vice presidential nomination. thursday night, vice president kamala harris will accept the democratic presidential host: and that was from yesterday in chicago. we are going to dorian in maryland. democratic mine, good morning. caller: how are you doing? first, i want to thank y'all, yell do great work. i show my students c-span. if you want to run for public office, you definitely got it. this information on the trump base, it seems -- simple in important to preserve democracy. when we were talking about what's going on in palestine, israel, white supremacy works to deceive people in bring out white fear, and that's what's happening.

especially in the genocide that's happening. as an american, as a black american, it's hard, i feel like our humanity is being tested. especially when we are seeing children, men and women, what are we doing to uplift taxpayer transparency and accountability when we talk about resolutions like 500 for that work to really reemphasize the importance of human rights in our domestic and foreign policy? we have got to hold our elected officials accountable. thank you. host: that's it for this segment. more to come, we are going until 11 a.m. this morning. up next, the national education association's becky pringle discusses the education policies she would like to see addressed at the event and issues regarding students heading back to school. we will be right back. ♪ >> we will welcome them into a

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and we will make america great again. >> here and now, i give you my word. if you entrust me with the presidency i will draw on the best of us, not the worst. >> this towering american spirit has prevailed over every challenge and lifted us to the summit of human endeavor. >> c-span, your unfiltered view of the convention, powered by cable. >> "washington journal" continues. host: welcome back. we are joined now by the president of the national education association, becky pringle. welcome to the program. >> it's good to be with you. host: how would you characterize the vice president harris approach to education and where she stands?

>> let me begin by saying it's a beautiful day in chicago, the sun is shining, but most especially we are getting an opportunity to see democracy at its finest, where people are coming together and knowing the power that they have to determine the direction of our country for us as educators. i taught middle school science for over 30 years. when i started teaching, you know, i didn't really have a clue that every decision made by my students and my classroom, about my colleagues, was made by someone elected or put into office. i soon found out that it was my professional responsibility and moral obligation to decide who those elected leaders are. recently, 3 million members of the national education association have endorsed kamala harris. one of our own teachers, tim walz, in this presidential

election. they know that public education is the foundation of our country. we must invest in our tools, in hours, and in the men and women who have dedicated their lives to educating america's students. so, with vice president harris, not only is there a proven track record, but there is also a vision for how we continue to move forward in making sure that every single one of our students has what they need, when they need it, including having a caring, qualifying teacher and support staff in their schools. host: what will the role of the nea be in mobilizing voters this fall? guest: the nea, with our 3 million members, has a member in every single congressional district in this country. we know what is at stake.

you know, a lot of people are saying that we have a stark choice. for us, for educators, it's not really a choice. we already know, whether you are reading the ending of the department of education in project 2025 with donald trump and the "washington journal, as they are talking about, talking about a plan to feed our children, -- not feed our children or cutting back on head start, we already know. so, it is not really a choice. with vice president harris, not only has president biden and vice president harris invested in universal school meals, not only are they making sure that our students are not graduating with crushing debt, not only are they making sure that our students have a deep and rich curriculum that reflects the diversity of this country to

where we can teach the true and complete history of america, but we know that they have lifted their voices to talk about paying teachers what they deserve, respecting them as professionals. so, we have a record, but we also know that we have a vision of what we are going to do as a country to invest in our public schools. like we believe they are the foundation of this or, quite honestly, mimi, and he democracy. host: you mentioned the trump plan to close the department of education. he intends to send that function back to the states. from your perspective, why would that be a bad idea? guest: in this country every level of government has a role

to play. when we think about living in the aspirational pieces of our u.s. constitution itself, when we talk about we the people, all of us deserve that. we know that the federal government has a role to play. that regardless of where you live or what you look like, regardless of your parent's income, you also have a public school that is well resourced. for it to be well resourced, we know the federal government has a distinct role to play. we know that the federal government in the office of civil rights ensures that every single student regardless of their race, regardless of their gender has what they need to succeed, to thrive and grow. host: you spoke to the california delegation yesterday at the dnc about the importance of democrats not only winning at the top, at the presidential

election, but also down ballot in the senate and house. explain. guest: i talked to my california delegation, my members, and anyone who will stop to listen to me. we actually have to win all the things. we have to win all the things. you mentioned the house and senate. we have to win school board elections, state elections, yes, we have to win and make sure that we have pro-public education candidates in the house and senate. because it when i say winning all the things, it's not only about electing people who care about our kids, our colleagues, and our country, but we have to make sure that they have what they need so that they can lead to boldly. so that we can live up to our highest ideals here in america. so, it is absolutely essential that we have a house of

representatives that is going to invest in public education. that we have a senate that is going to make sure that we have, that we have the opportunity to appoint more judges to the supreme court. that we have a more balanced supreme court. we have to make sure that we have people who understand that our diversity is our strength. and that they are going to do everything they can to make sure we have policies that support what we know is right. host: i want to show this to you and get your reaction to it. former president trump last year laying out his goals for education. his 10 education principles. we will play it and then get your response. [video clip] >> we will respect the right of parents to control the education of their children. we will imperil it -- empower parents and local school boards who hire great teachers and principals and defy the poor

ones, the ones whose performances are not satisfactory. they will be fired. like on "the apprentice." "you're fired." we will focus not on political indoctrination but on teaching the knowledge and skills needed to succeed. reading, writing, math, science, arithmetic and other truly useful subjects. we will teach students to love their country, not hate their country like they are taught right now. fifth, we support bringing back prayer to schools. six, we will achieve schools that are safe, secure, and drug-free, with immediate expulsion for any student who harms a teacher or another student. seventh, we will give all parents the right to choose another school for their children if they want. it's called school choice. eight, we ensure that students have access to project-based learning experiences inside of the classroom, to help train them for meaningful work work

outside the classroom. ninth, we strive to give all students access to internships and work experiences to set them on a path to their first job. they will be very, very successful. i want them to be more successful in trump. host: becky pringle, your reaction to that? guest: let me begin by saying, you know, we don't have to just listen to the words of donald trump. we have four years of evidence. what was the first thing that he did? he appointed betsy devos as secretary of education. her sole purpose was to actually destroy public education. so, when donald trump talks about privatizing and putting vouchers into schools, the purpose of that is to take money out of our public schools. to ensure that the destruction

of public schools -- ensure the destruction of public schools in this country. let's be clear about that. the second thing i want to mention is, you know, i told you i taught for a long time. as teachers, parents are our natural and first allies. i could not have done my job without parents. so, all of the donald trump allies, what they have taught us to do, defy parents and teachers? not only does it not work, but look at the election results of 2022 and 2023. we know that parents and teachers work hand-in-hand not only to make sure that their students are successful, but that all students are successful. parents are very much involved in everything that we do. lastly, i want to emphasize that under donald trump, not only did

he disinvest in public education , but he ended betsy devos are responsible for the crushing student loan debt that our students, who did everything that we asked them to do, went on to college, graduated with this crushing debt because of the predatory lenders that betsy devos allowed to take advantage of our students. they graduated and after working for years actually owed more money. this is the trump presidency. this is his legacy. without saying it, we already know that he does not care about our public schools. we already know all that he did to add to the education shortage so that we don't have enough teachers, nurses, or support staff. we already know that. and we know that if you were reelected, he would do more of that. that is why we are supporting kamala harris and tim walz. we also have a proven record for

vice president harris and vice president -- and president biden, who did everything to turn around what the trump administration did and move forward. host: if you would like to make a comment or ask a question of becky pringle, you can do so. the lines are republicans, (202) 748-8000, democrats, (202) 748-8000, independents, (202) 748-8002. becky pringle, i want to ask you about what "the new york times," set about pandemic closures and students going to remote learning and what it says four years later. this is from march of this year. it says -- the most recent test scores from spring of 2023 show that students overall are not caught up from there pandemic losses, larger gaps remaining

among students that lost the most ground to begin wh. students in districts that went mo or hybrid theonst, at least 90% of the 2021 school year, still had almost double the grounds to make up compared with students in districts that allowed them back for most of the year. what do you say about that, where we are now, and was it a mistake to keep schools closed for so long in some areas? guest: mimi, we are all still learning about the impact of the pandemic. one thing that we know as educators is that our students, when they come to us, they are impacted by everything. their parents, their families, their communities, where they are in the schooling process. we know that what happened in this country and around the world impacted our students in a

way where it will be years, if not decades, to know the full result. so, they are not just in a school environment. our students are living in a society still trying to recover from that pandemic. we talk about our students as whole people. so, we know that they cannot learn -- they cannot learn if they cannot regularly go to the dentist. they cannot learn if they have issues and challenges going on. not only are we looking at the results of the pandemic as it specifically relates to test scores, we are looking at the growth and progress of students. the mental health of our students, families, and communities. so, we know the pandemic had an impact. a huge impact. you are absolutely right. one of the things we talked about before pandemic was the digital divide. the black, brown, indigenous

students of poverty, they didn't have access. didn't have access to the internet, didn't have access to digital tools. we are working hard to close those gaps. that was the only way that some of them were able to connect to learning at all. so, we know we have work to do. we have seen some success in one of the things we observed during pandemic was in the schools and districts who truly embraced the causes of community schools where the students were getting health care. making sure that families were fed. that they were getting access to those digital tools. they fared better. one of the things we are working on at the nea is to expand and continue, in partnership with the biden administration. we know that for our students to learn, they have to come to school prepared to learn every single day. so, we are taking those results

and digging into that. we found success with accelerated tutoring. we found success working with community partners. some speaking differently about students, how we learn and teach . we know that this will not only help them to close those gaps today, but we know that we have the opportunity to actually expand the learning of our students, to elevate teaching and learning practices. to make sure we are meeting the needs of our students as the whole people that come to our schools. lots of learning, lots of success. we will continue to work and make sure that our students are prepared to take their next step in their learning journey and in their college and careers that we know they need to take so that our country is strong and ready to take on the challenges

not only of the day, but of tomorrow. host: john is up first on the line for democrats in montgomery, new york. hello, john. go right ahead, you are on. caller: how are you doing? my problem is this, why don't we put that 2025 out there and let them see that trump with his egotistical mind wants to be a dictator for life. he wants his family to control the country for the next hundreds of years. host: do you have a question specifically about education? caller: education? host: that's ok, we got your point. richard is in des moines, iowa. hello, richard. caller: good morning. thank you both for having this

open forum. george bush gave us no child left behind. that was kind of a federal involvement. you democrats want to just double down on that. it's totally decimated education in this country. because there is no -- we are all getting participation, but not everybody's performing to the standards we need them to perform two. trump tried to do something about it. four years is not enough to base any type of um, ah, let's... um... host: we got it, richard. becky pringle? guest: no question, no child left behind was in the early

2000's. we have a couple of decades of evidence that tells us that we should not have a system that blames and punishes and shames our students and our schools. we have never dealt with the inequities in funding in this country. that we have not provided the kinds of resources, particularly in those historically marginalized communities and schools. we have learned that we need to move towards what we at the nea call authentic assessment. we have been able to work with the department of education to take a look at how we think differently as we assess this country. assessments should inform, as a teacher, it should inform my professional practice and the decisions that i make about whether my students understand the laws of physics, or are there other ways that i need to teach that?

particularly around learning. but assessment should be designed in a way where they can assess their learning but also assess as learning, they should measure the full breath of what the student is not only learning, but what they yet need to learn. we have incredible examples of assessments that do that right now in this country that we call performance based. so, we are moving away from no child left behind to a way that we measure what matters for our students, we inform educators on professional practice and for the students themselves, they have agency and their learning and assessment of their own learning so that they are ready to take their place in careers or, if they so choose, to go on to college so that we are doing everything that we can on every level, federal, state, and local

, so that assessments are used the way they should be used in a way that helps our students to learn. host: st. clair, michigan, independent mine, joe, good morning. caller: good morning, mimi. i have listened to you all the time for years. three questions. number one, this country spends the most money per student on education in the world, yet we rank number 49 out of 50 industrialized nations. why is that? first question. second question is -- why has this government not made school tuition, primary, secondary, college, truck driving school, hvac school, any kind of educational expense, tax-deductible so that people can afford to send -- to pay their kid's tuition?

my third question is, why should some poor mexican kid out laying sod for a landscape crew be taxed to pay for some of white person's art history degree that they can't get a job and pay off ? thank you, i will take my -- your comments off the air. host: all right. becky pringle? guest: so, we know that when we compare this country to other countries, when we use tax incentives like that, we know that we are not including the full breadth of the investments that those countries make in their public education systems. whether we are talking about equitable funding for about infrastructure, or we are talking about recruiting and retaining high quality educators. there are so many indicators

that go into knowing our students are assessing, assessing what they know and are able to do. what we do know is that here in america, we have never invested in our public schools the way that we know we need to. we have never reached a level of equitable funding so that the students who need more get more. we have never done that. we have had some small successes, but it has never been the same. it's one of the reasons why we are so excited about governor tim walz being on the presidential ticket. as governor, he made his as she made historic investments in public education and we have seen the results. so, it's really important, when we are making comparisons, that we compare at all before we say that america is achieving more or not as much as other nations.

if we were talking like the biden administration -- biden harris administration talked about, and our own member, dr. jill biden, has talked about this, making community college free. we fought to make college more affordable for our students. not just college. we have been fighting to increase funding at schools. we know that some of our students, many of our students do not want to go on to college and we need them in those technical professions. so, investing in those opportunities for our students and not having the training, the post 12 grade training that is unaffordable to those students is unacceptable. it is one of the things that the biden harris administration is working on. i know that it is one of the priorities for the harris-walz

administration, to continue to deepen that work. so, it is important that when our students do everything we have asked them to do, that they have access and access to and support through higher education. whether it is going to a technical school or going to a four-year college. host: ryan is in pennsylvania. democratic line, good morning. caller: good morning, thank you for taking my call. what can we do for teacher retention in this country? my wife was a 21 year educator, i saw how hard she worked and how stressed out she was. it increased after pandemic. she had to teach in many different ways and used many different modules. what can we do to help those teachers and retain them? many are leaving the profession as we speak. host: becky pringle, go ahead. guest: oh my, thank you so much

for that question. i have talked a lot about the educator shortage. not just our teachers, but our bus drivers, our counselors, we know how important it is to have caring and qualified teachers in our classrooms and throughout our schools, for our students to have what they need so that they can grow and thrive. so, i am really glad that when you ask your question you didn't just ask about teacher recruitment. that you talked about retention. that is so incredibly important. what we saw is an exacerbation of what's been happening for a while. we have had a chronic educator shortage. with pandemic, like with everything else, it that made it so much worse. what we were shocked to see, we did a survey of educators and were shocked to see and learn

that 65% of our educators work not just talking about it, but planning to leave the profession. when we jumped into those numbers, 60% of our latino teachers were planning on leaving and 62% of black teachers were planning on leaving the profession. so, we know we have to focus in not only on attracting young people into the profession, but we have to retain them. when we asked why they were leaving, they were very clear. they began with the big r word, respect. when i said tell me what that means, they said -- first of all, we should be respected as the professionals we are. anyone who went to school should not be in -- anyone who didn't go to school should not be making these decisions for our teachers and students.

second, we have never been paid in a way that reflects the importance of the work we did in our society. biden, and his first speech, he talked about raising teacher pay. president biden, vice president harris have talked about that through these last four years. they put their money where their mouth was in a package for the american rescue plan. vice president kamala harris, when casting that deciding vote, we got billions that we were able to use to actually hire more teachers and pay them more. but we cannot just rely on the federal government. it has to be all levels, but hopefully local, to make sure that our teachers are making a salary that reflects the importance of what they do. the caller talked about all the things his wife was doing. as an educator, i always filled in those gaps. whatever i needed to do so that they could be safe, healthy, grow, feel welcomed in my classroom, i stood in those

gaps. i paid out of my own pocket for those materials like every teacher in this country and that is not ok. we have to make sure they have those resources and we have to make sure that there are enough of them. i will finally say, to applaud the biden harris administration for this understanding, our students came back with more mental health issues and we had to have those resources in school to address those issues for our students and then the community resources to address those issues in our communities with our families and others. so, we have a huge problem in america. we have to solve it in a holistic way to attract and retain educators in our classrooms, especially educators of color. host: becky pringle, thank you so much for joining us today. guest: thank you, mimi. host: c-span also wants to think

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your calls. you can see a live shot of the united center right there, where the dnc is taking place this week through thursday. while you call in, take a look at gop vice presidential nominee senator jd vance. he was at a campaign event in north philadelphia yesterday. [video clip] >> we have a country being failed by present leadership. don't let, don't let anybody, don't let anybody gaslight you hear. kamala harris is running around the country saying that on day one she wants to bring the costs of goods and the costs of housing under control. she says that on day one she wants to make groceries and homes more affordable for american citizens. kamala harris, where have you been? you have been vice president for 300 days and you should have been doing your job then, not promising to do it now.

let's just take stock of the economic record of kamala harris. electricity is up 30%. food, that's right, food is up 20%. gasoline is up 50%. this is all because of the policies of kamala harris. a person who is promising that she is going to fix the very problems she has been creating for 13 hundred days and now she wants the american people to give her a promotion? time for the american people to say to her you are fired we want donald trump. host: if u uld like to hear more fm nator vcehe will beamigning today in kenosha, wisconsin, aone p.m. eastern, the swg state representing 10 electoral votes. president biden won there in

2020 by a margin of less tn 1% . we will have a live coverage of the senator vance eve at 1 p.m. eastern, right over o c-span two. also on c-span now, our free mobile video app, online at c-span.org. to the phones, now. jackie, democratic line, pennsylvania. caller: hello? hi? host: go ahead, you are on. caller: the lady from the school, education, she left. i had a question for her. but i just want to say -- i was here -- getting people registered to vote, i'm getting a lot of questions from felons. are they allowed to vote or not? host: so, that is state-by-state. you have got to check the rules in pennsylvania. caller: in pennsylvania, ok. thank you. host: alrighty.

new port richey, florida, republican, good morning. caller: morning. two fast statements i would like to make. i was going to talk about the education system, but a little late. my thoughts are this -- i truly wish that these politicians on both sides would kindly stop knocking each other, pulling each other down. just tell us as americans what you are going to do for us and then go do it. i've been listening to politics for 60 years, i'm 80 years old. you hear the same stories over and over. i wish you guys would get it together and stop knocking each other. one other thought, if i may, stock segregating ourselves in the united states of america. this is getting ridiculous. lots of ancestors in this world fought hard not to be segregated and all that i see now is everybody segregated again. it's ridiculous in this day and age. thank you.

i wish this country could get it together. i'm afraid for what's going on and i think we are going to become a socialized country. thank you. hope you're having a good day. host: marietta, georgia, independent line, rick, you are next. caller: first i wanted to compliment you, mimi, i really appreciate your work over the last couple of weeks. you have been a great host with our guests. as far as my questions and statements for today, i want to make a comment on a lot of the misinformation going around about abortion and about immigration. abortion, first of all, is just a medical procedure. for anyone who thinks it is baby murder, please, why would you go to a hospital? for care. no professional physician is ever going to ever, i've on any account, it's hard to even say, do that to a child. there is no medical professional

who would ever do that. the same thing for a child that experiences gendered dysphoria. there is no elective procedure for sex changes. that's not a thing. that's not happening in this country. have faith in your professionals. if you don't, ask them. talk to them. this is a free country. you can have those opinions, but they are not facts. thank you for your time. host: monique is next. caller: i listen to c-span every single day. i listen to your senators as well, the congressman, they give their point of view about how they see the country should go. so, when i hear a lot of negative stuff on both sides, i said to myself -- who do they listen to?

all you have to do is go to c-span, listen to the congressional meetings, listen to the senate meetings. listen to the congressman and senators speak. they should be able to make up their own point of view about what side and what decision they want the country to go. i am so sick and tired of the negativity on both sides. we have to come together. i also wanted to comment about the education system. i have seven kids. all of my kids were brought up within the public school sector, as well as the younger ones, they were more chartered schools. it takes the parents also to participate in their children's education. teachers cannot do it by themselves. the school is there to try to provide the information your children need in order to get

the information. the schools, the teachers are there to teach your children the structure of education and the information they need. it is the job of the parent to make sure that their children understand the information that the teachers are trying to provide. i have seven children, as i said. my oldest is a cdl driver. he's 30. the next 1, 28, he worked at safeway. host: we cannot get through all seven, but we appreciate the call. marcy, good morning, republican line, north carolina. caller: yes, thank you for taking my call. during the debate, during the rnc convention we were constantly hearing fact checks concerning donald trump -- donald trump. if you look at the ones that you were showing, when it pertained

to donald trump it said it was mostly false. when it was for biden, it said it was mostly true. but really they are saying the same thing. with those fact checks, not one fact check has been used today. host: is there something -- if there is something you would specifically like me to look up, i'm happy to do that. caller: i don't think, nobody asked you to look up anything during the debate? during the debate or the convention? that was just naturally done. as for abortion, there is no -- not one state has abortion been abolished. there are seven states where you can have abortion plum up to birth. and if you are a christian, it

should be appallin'to you that a mobile abortion unit has been set up at the convention. can i say one quick thing about the department of education? host: go ahead. caller: the department of education didn't exist until the 1970's. if you go back, you can look and see how our education system has deteriorated since the department of education was formed. right no, we are spending'17,007 hundred dollars on average per child. in new york they were spending $33,340 per child. how much more money do they want and what are they going to spend it on? host: all right, marcy mentioned fact checking. this is fact checking of the president biden dnc speech from

last night at pbs.org, if you would like to take a look at it. as an example, here is abortion, where biden says, "and you know, trump will do everything he can to ban abortion nationwide." analysis, trump has repeatedly said that abortion legislation should be left up to the states and in april he said he would not sign a national ban. as president, trump-endorsed a 20 week national abortion ban. similarly this year he floated support for 16 or 17 week federal abortion bands. these outlets reported as not said if he supports other ways abortion should be restricted across the country, including using the comstock act, the comstock act to ban mailing abortion pills for procedures. there's more, if you would like to take a look at that.

dan is calling us from florida. good morning. >> good morning. my wife and i, we were both teachers. after 35 years, going back to the 60's, when the department of, the department of education didn't exist and the nea was just, just beginning in some northern states. we started the pascoe county teachers association down here. being a northern transplant, i was very union orientated. since that time, we have watched education go steadily downhill since we were teachers. when that woman came on today, my blood pressure went up a mile . this is strictly politics to them. it has nothing to do with education. my wife was a language arts teacher. advanced language arts. she taught the upper level kids.

they were pretty migrant kids. nothing problem with the kids, but they didn't speak english and we didn't have desks. she was poor mouthing the amount of money going into education. it's not that the amount of that goes in is deficient, it's the way that they spend the money is deficient. everything she said was a lie. when she backpedaled on the statistics of where we are educationally in the world, of the 34 advanced industrial nations, we are -- we are not even in the 50% ranking. in chicago alone, there in chicago, reading standards are 31%. one third of the kids are up to standard.

math is 19%. as americans, a woman spoke who had a lot of kids. she was talking about how parents need to get involved. we do need to get involved. all parents need to be at those meetings. the people, the people who come along when it comes to their kids education, we are sliding into an abyss, educationally. it's almost like the government wants us uneducated so that we are easier to manipulate. i hear this so often. the things they had, like a unique place in the world, we are talking to other americans out there, talking to real people. we are not talking to politicians. politicians, all you have to do is look at the rating. if they were rated like lawyers they would be used car salesman.

i don't want to listen to politicians and we are so split up on such an important thing like education. my goodness gracious. host: all right, got it. another item for your schedule today, this is day two of the democratic national convention. it is underway in chicago. while that is going on, kamala harris and tim walz will be together at a campaign rally in milwaukee. the event is taking place at the rv forum, which hosted the republicanatnal convention a month ago. we will ha le coverage at 9 p.m. eastern c-span two, also on c-span now and c-span.org. that is of course at the same time we have our coverage on c-span of the democratic national committee should. that kicks off at 6 p.m. with your calls.

and then we will have coverage of the event at 7 p.m. you will hear from michelle obama, jb pri, and second gentleugoff. again, that c-sp tonight here on c-span starting at 6 p.m. eastern. john is in louisiana. democrat, good morning. caller: yes, i just want to make this short. i want to say that the reason that inflation is so high, the price of gas is so high, the price of oil is so high, it all goes back to joe biden and kamala harris. i want to say it again, if those people don't vote donald trump back into office, we will be in big trouble. gas prices have been the best they had ever been. congress was better than it ever was. more people working. donald trump is the only one who

can bring the nation back to the way it was. i'm going to go out on november 5 and vote for donald j. trump. host: correcting what i just mentioned about our coverage of the democratic national convention, that is being moved up to 5:30 p.m. eastern because the convention is going to be starting a bit earlier tonight. please, remember to tune in at 5:30 eastern time. and here is francis, republican line, from fort lauderdale, florida. caller: regarding your speaker on education, i believe that education is extremely important. that is where the children discover their talents. and then they can take it from there. they can focus in the on their talents that they really love and have.

when president biden spoke last night, he talked about the children. he said three things i would like to point out. one, he said that he believes in a u.s. where everyone has a fair shot to realize their potential. i agree. of course, the next one, he said we need to stand against violence and leave no one behind. find, i agree. the last one, he said here in the u.s. more kids are killed by gun violence than any other thing. well, no, that's not true. more kids are killed by abortion . over one million unborn little boys and girls are killed by abortion. kamala and the democrats and biden, they believe in abortion right up until the moment before birth. that is an extreme position.

most voters on that issue, they believe in some restrictions. but not the extreme democratic position. i used to be a democrat and that's why i like -- left the party, over that issue. children are our future and that is the way our country will be, with more children. let them use their god-given talents and protect children to help our nation in the world. host: all right, francis. albert, gulfport, mississippi, good morning. caller: yes, i'm calling in reference to the dobbs decision. i pulled it up and looked at it. it says that the supreme court, it says roe v casey was overruled to regulate abortion, that authority is returned to the people in their representatives. not turned over to the

legislature. turned over to the people. abortion cannot be regulated unless it is voted on by the people. in essence they said that all abortion, anything filed under abortion has been overruled by dobbs. according to what i have read, that's what it said in the decision and they based it on that 15 weeks being a restriction. casey, roe, that was a restriction. one was 20 weeks, the other was 15 weeks. they said no, no more restrictions unless they are voted on by their people and instituted by their representatives. so, the people have a voice. all of these people, the government functioning around these people with abortion, that

is still legal at this time according to dobbs. host: all right, albert. let's go to rachel in new jersey, independent. caller: good morning, thank you for taking my call. i want to go into the conversation with this gentleman that he was speaking about, as well as education. there is a lot of fake things going around there about president trump and abortion, abortion, abortion. it's all up to each individual state to decide what they want to do, ok? he is not telling people to have an abortion at nine months. that's extreme. you have a full baby there. you are just, what are you doing there? throwing it in the garbage? that's extreme. president trump is not saying ok, i will stop everybody. everyone is worried he's going to stop abortions.

that's not what's happening, that's not what's happening. you have a certain amount of time to do what you need to do. if you know you are not dragging -- keeping that baby, why drag it until you are nine months pregnant? doesn't make sense. one, school system, i'm terrified. i have a four-year-old daughter i have to put in there and i'm terrified to put her in a school system. no national anthem, no pledging to the flag? like i was in kindergarten and i knew we had to do that. respect to our country. >> mom, dad. caller: we don't do that anymore. i don't understand. host: all right, benny, pensacola, good morning. caller: good morning, thank you for taking my call. i've never called in before, but i listened. i'm 71 years old.

i worked 32 years in construction. 18 years and truck driving, got my cdl drivers license. i worked pretty much all my life. i hear people lifting up mr. trump. i sit and i think -- well, when i had stock ownership in a company that i worked for, when i retired, when i retired, i had my stock ownership there that i could draw, i could pull it all out at one time. they had a lawyer that told me -- i couldn't take all of my

money out at one time. so, i began to take some of it out, but in 2017, when mr. trump was in office. and when he gave the billionaires, those rich people the tax cut, i lost $50,000 from my stock ownership. host: benny, we hear you but we are out of time so that will be our last call for today. thank you everybody who watched and those who called in. we will be back again with you tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern. have a great day. ♪ [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2024]

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safe, legal, rare. >> c-span's voices 2024, the part of the conversation. >> a live picture this morning of the united center in chicago as day two of the democratic national convention gets underway later tonight. c-span's live coverage will start with a preview show at 5:30 p.m. eastern and then at 6:30 p.m. eastern speakers will take the stage and at about 11:00 p.m. eastern we will take your calls and reactions in our live postconvention program. among those appearinght our former first lady michelle obama, former president barack obama, and second gentleman doug emhoff. also tonight while the democratic national conv is underway in chicago, placed president harrison governor tim walz will be together to campaign rally i