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refused to change course. here is israeli prime minister netanyahu on monday making an apology to the families of the six hostages. >> i am begging for your forgiveness that we did not succeed bringing them home alive. we were very close. nearly there. and i would like to repeat once again this evening, israel will not move on to a normal agenda after that massacre hamas will pay a very heavy price for it. the war against this axis of evil and this specific war against hamas, the first crack and of course that doesn't bring about a deal whatsoever, but the first crack was when we went into rafah and we took over the

corridor and the rafah transit point because that was literally there where they actually could breath their oxygen. they were hoping iran or hezbollah would come and save them. now that they are hoping the international pressure would now extricate them from that situation. but the only effective change that would be enabled would be if we hold on to the philadelphia corridor and not vacate it, not evacuate it. once we leave it we'll never be able to go back. host: just so you know the -- he referenced the corridor, this is the guardian explaining what that is. it says that netanyahu's control of the strip between gaza and egypt a cease-fire in negotiations, this is a map here this is where it is in israel.

here is the gaza strip and here's the border with egypt. this is what's called the philadelphi corridor that israel wants to maintain control of. we will go to calls now. start with lawrence in st. paul, minnesota, independent. hi. caller: good morning. you do a wonderful job. unquestionably war is humanity at its lowest. but remember in december of 19413,000 americans lost their souls when we were attacked by pearl harbor -- at pearl harbor by japanese. and subsequently eliminate the threat there were both military and collateral damage. tokyo bombings cost the lives of

100,000. 69 other japanese cities was about 500,000. and people today are keeping score thinking that that's the way that you eliminate the threat. and that's the wrong way to do it. war's not pretty, but when you are attacked you have to protect the nation. that is the first role of government. host: lawrence, do you say israel should keep going? keep fighting hamas? caller: i think that hamas is a threat to israel. they do not recognize israel as do other n.g.o.'s and other nations, and they call for the demise or elimination of israel. you can't negotiate with people who sit across the table and don't recognize you. so, yes, i think israel has a right to defend itself. hamas pulled the trigger to start this. and sadly hamas needs to be eliminated.

thank you for your time. i will let other people get on. host: president biden was asked if he thought prime minister netanyahu's doing enough to secure a hostage release deal. and the white house press secretary was asked about that at the press briefing. here she is. >> what more could prime minister netanyahu be doing to get a deal done? >> i don't have anything to add or any color or anything more specific to add to what the president said yesterday. he was asked a direct question. he answered it. don't have anything else to add. we are going to continue to do, continue to have conversations on next steps with our co-immediate maters as i mentioned moments ago, qatar and egypt. we are committed, this president is committed to make sure we get a cease-fire deal. we have to remember what this means. this means it ends the war. the president wants to see this war ended. the president wants to see the

palestinian people continue to get relief. we want to up the assistance into gaza to the palestinian people. we want to get hostages home. we want to get them home to their family. the story that came out over the weekend of these six hostages, one of them being an american citizen, is devastating. devastating. it was a devastating news and heinous act we saw by hamas. >> does the president regard any of the israeli demands that have been put on the table during these negotiations as unreasonable? >> i'm not going to negotiate from here. as my colleague from msc said, we are not going to negotiate from here. we are not going point by point here. we are looking at all options as we have said before and we'll continue to have those consultations with co-immediate maters qatar and egypt. i don't want to get ahead of

that. >> does the president see prime minister netanyahu as a good faith actor in these negotiations? >> the president sees the prime minister as someone who he has known for decades now. they tend to have honest conversations, direct conversations. i'm going to not get into a yes or no here. i'm going to get into what i know their relationship to be. and i think that's what's important. the president wants to get this done. and i'm just going to leave it there. host: here is susan on facebook who sent us this. two-state solution should be the goal. the genocide of palestinians is creating more hamas. netanyahu won't agree to a cease-fire. his goal is to kill all palestinians and take all the land they own. he is a war criminal and as long as he is in power there will be no justice and no peace. this is tizzy on facebook, they should agree to a cease-fire and then find a way to negotiate

with the palestinian people, the real people, not the terrorists that are hamas. to find a human solution that equitably treats all the people affected. calling from burke, virginia, republican, doug, hi. caller: my question would be did anybody ask america to stop bombing iraq? and kuwait during the first golf war or second gulf war after we were attacked in 9/11? did anybody ask us to stop doing that during that time? why is the west all of a sudden the moral high ground? i'm an american. i'm part of the west. but why -- we are the moral high ground compared to israel, oiler own ally in all the middle east. our true ally in the middle east. that doesn't make sense to me. since when are we all of a sudden the people who have the rights to say what's moral and

what's not moral when we commit just as much genocide, quote, quote, during 2001 and 2002 until we left iraq. that doesn't make sense to me. i don't know where these people get off saying we all of a sudden have that ability. it doesn't make sense to me. for me no one wants war. nobody likes war. inevitably people are going to die in war. i'm a christian. that's part of the sin nature of humans. we don't like each other. we don't get along by nature. it's our natural disposition is not be in favor of peace because we -- all the way back to the old testament in the bible, people love to kill each other. i don't think -- i'm saying at the end of the day we don't need to act like we are the moral owners of morality in the west whenever we do the same thing over the decades and decades of

war we have been a part of. that's all i got to say. host: talk to brooklyn, new york, democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. i am said they should have a cease-fire because the palestinian people in gaza was in a prison camp. yes, good morning. host: you got to mute your tv. talk right into the phone. we hear you. caller: ok. yes, i'm saying there should be a cease-fire. a cease-fire. the palestinian people in gaza was in a concentration camp, a prison camp. they couldn't leave gaza by a train, by a plane, by a boat. they were completely in control of the israeli people. and for god's sake, all those years of suppression that were

due to the palestinian people, please, stop. ok. because this situation, they are the occupying force. the occupying people's land. they have been killing them. they have been doing all sort of atrocities to them. and then the talk about october 7, yes. october 7 is wrong. i'm not saying the palestinian have the right to go kill innocent people. but they were being killed for a very long time. and the war is not ever told the truth. they are not ever fed the truth that the israelis are the occupiers and be imprisoning and doing the people evil. host: kevin on facebook says permanent cease-fire and palestinian state. and sheri on facebook says, unfortunately, you cannot

negotiate with a terrorist. hamas is a globally recognized terrorist organization. michael four oaks, north carolina, republican. hey, michael. caller: good morning, i'll tell you what it is a beautiful morning here in the carolinas. beautiful sunshine. host: i bet. it's getting to be nice in d.c., too. believe it or not. caller: yes. i have been there back in 1990 with my high school. and i know all about it. we went almost late winter and it was hot. but back to the seriousness of the situation. we all want peace. i know the president of israel, does not, with his own words, have any confidence in our president. i just heard him i think just yesterday or maybe monday saying in the interview he didn't think biden was interested in peace at

all. i don't know wh means, really. because everyone should want peace. we have lost our contacts with negotiations and stuff. i don't think israel trusts us. i think hamas does because they are just using us. and hamas wants any way out of this war. host: do you think they want out of this war, michael, or are they benefiting from this war? caller: no. hamas is not benefiting from this war. they may some in the eyes of peacemakers and stuff when children are being innocently hurt from missiles and bombs and stuff. the palestinian people are being used by hamas, but i don't think hamas is benefiting at all. look what happened to isis, the same thing is happening to hamas. unfortunately so many civilians are caught up in the ground war

in rural area. host: and here's doug, fairfax, south dakota, democrat. good morning. caller: good morning, i think the killing needs to stop. i don't think it's going to because harris is just the same as biden, actually. her husband is jewish. and his main goal is to stop anti-semitism or whatever. it's going to continue. israel, i just don't understand all these people finding in the bible we are supposed to be killing people. the only thing that god really wrote i think is the 10 commandments. in there he says you are not supposed to kill. i just don't see how they keep finding the bible as the reason for the killing. they sure manage to. the slaughter will continue on. and benjamin, when he came, congress, like i said a long time ago, they would be jumping like bunny rabbits. they did. i think it's more like seals.

they were clapping like seals waiting for their rewards from benjamin, i think. the killing needs to stop. israel is doing wrong. i just -- nobody mentions west bank. what about all the settlements? people have been killed in the west bank, what about that? let's ask some of these people about that? it needs to stop. p harris is not going to be any different than biden. i'm not going to vote for her. have a good day, people. host: all right, doug. rob in michigan, independent. good morning. caller: good morning. i think everyone would like to see an end to the war. the way to achieve it would be look at your own opinion. i would ask the audience to say well, if you want a permanent cease-fire from both sides, cease hostilities, raise your right hand. i think most people would. i would follow that and say if you would like to follow that up

with a giant international aid to the west bank, to gaza is rebuilding the infrastructure, schools, hospitals, utilities and a free election for everybody. raise your left hand. if you want to achieve the cease-fire, get hamas to do the same. you'll have both hands in the air. host: going back to who controls who would be in control of gaza, you said there should be free and fair elections, do you think that's possible right now given the situation? caller: right now it's not because hamas is in control. the moment they won the election they did have, they immediately began killing off their opposition. their competitors. and they put an end to elections. hamas will have to go. it could be a coalition of palestinian governments that are

committed and monitored through international law as to a ruling body. they would have to agree to a two-state solution which israel has agreed to half a dozen times in the last 50 years. and the palestinian terrorists said, no, the only last contingency we have to have the extinction of jewish people. that's a hard sell and condition. don't think anyone will ever agree to that. as long as the terrorists continue to dominate and oppress their own people, no, there won't be peace. it could be achieved three international effort and pressure. host: here is steve in san jose, california, republican, good. caller: good morning, let's remember the palestinians elected hamas. the palestinians teach their children to hate the jews. after october 7, hamas leaders said that they would attack israel again and again and

again. if israel is not allowed to utterly, completely destroy the hamas leadership, they will regroup and attack israel again and again and again. this is the reality. this is the reality. it's sad -- host: let me ask you this. when you say to utterly destroy hamas leadership. what about the ideology of hamas, how do you destroy that? caller: you don't. it exists. but -- let's see, israel needs to -- if they could control the school system, that would be a start. the united nations can't be

relied on to police gaza because they were themselves complicit in the attack on israel. one last thepbg, i hope that -- thing, i hope that u.s. funds are not used to rebuild gaza. if the funds are to come from somewhere, they should come from iran. they should come from saudi arabia. but we shouldn't borrow money to rebuild gaza because this is going to happen over and over again. one further thing, god in the old testament fought on the side of the jews, and they destroyed

complete civilizations down to the last man, woman, and child. the gazans, the palestinians should be thankful that god does not take an active role fighting with israel today. host: one of the slain hostages was her shall goldberg-polin, an israeli american. his mom gave a eulogy in jerusalem on monday. here's a portion of that. >> for 23 years i was privileged to have the most stunning honor to be hersh's momma. i will take it and say thank you. i just wish it had been for longer. hersh, for all these months i have been in such torment and worry about you for every single millisecond of every single day. it was such a specific type of

misery that i have never experienced before. i tried hard to suppress the missing you part because that i was convinced would break me. so i spent 330 days terrified, scared, worrying and frightened. it closed my throat and made my soul throb with third degree burns. part of what is so deeply crushing and confusing for all of us is that a strange thing happened along this macabra path which our family found itself traveling for the last 332 days. amidst of inexplicable agony, terror, anguish, desperation and fear we became absolutely certain that you were coming home to us alive. but it was not to be. host: on your screen is the

pictures of six -- six hostages, their bodies were recovered just a few days ago from gaza. we are asking you the question, should israel accept a permanent cease-fire or do you think they should keep fighting hamas. here is donald in grand blank, michigan, democrat. caller: good morning, c-span. good morning, mimi. i think our prayers go out to the palestinian people and the israel people. it's a shame what's going on there. netanyahu is the problem with peace in gaza. he had opportunity to make a peace deal and he withdrew. i truly think we are killing a lot of innocent people. it needs to stop.

to blame biden and kamala harris is ridiculous. when i hear callers say -- biden done everything he can to get peace over there. and they don't want peace. so you can't blame biden or kamala harris for this mess. just like you can't blame him for the mess in ukraine. this administration is doing the best they can with what cards they have been dealt. all we can do is pray for peace over there and hope better minds come to the table for a peace plan. i bless gazans, the palestinian people, and get kamala in the white house. host: robin in maryland, republican line. good morning. caller: good morning.

thank you. you have to understand that israelis grow up from the time they are babies learning that when they hear an alarm they go into shelt the israelis have been bombarded throughout history. if you look at the bible the israelis have been the underdogs all along, everybody's tried to get after them. the reason that there is a discussion right now is six innocent hostages were killed because hamas said, we got to do something. we got to get people behind us. so they killed innocent people that were about to be rescued. if we have a cease-fire now, then hamas has won. and they say, oh, and if anything else happens we'll just kill some more hostages. and as far as the part biden and

kamala has played, if they had stuck to their guns starting on october 6 and said, no cease-fire until every hostage is returned, we would have had those hostages become before christmas. but because they wanted the two-state solution of michigan and wisconsin, and that was more important than israel they said, oh, you have to have a sears tpao*eu, you have to have a sears fire. no. we have to have the hostages back. until every hostage is returned, there should be no more cease-fires. thank you very much for listening. i love c-span. host: butler, wisconsin, democrat, good morning. caller: yes. thank you. it gets sickening to listen to these people. they all think they know. it comes down to this. you got a friend, he was attacked, you come to his aid. but now all of a sudden, indiscriminately he's attacking everybody around him.

wouldn't you say as a friend to him, you got to stop this? and then some of your callers keep bringing up god. do you think god wants people to kill other people? that's all i got to say. thank you very much. host: here's yomi on facebook, they had a cease-fire before october 7. many other times in history. how about actual peace? cease-fires are glorified temporary pauses. how about the u.n. butts boots on the ground and allow for new elections in gaza anti-west bank without a centralized government, you can't be a sovereign nation. start with the basics rather than sensationalist sound bites. and alan says, keep fighting until there are none left. the palestinians support hamas overwhelmingly and unless they turn on them and tell israel where they are they deserve to suffer. this is steve, robertsville,

missouri, independent. caller: yeah, i'm a pure independent. i don't like either -- netanyahu is doing the best he can. and hamas is a terrorist organization. and it's just -- it kind of extends to the ukraine, too. he just shook hands with putin trying to get putin to negotiate. that's just very comical. putin is a mass murderer. host: i was going to say, back to israel. caller: well, they are going to have to keep going and just not stop against hamas because they are not going to stop. they are terrorists. you got to stand firm against them and keep fighting. and why don't you have anything about ukraine that's going on? why is there nothing about that, either, that's a big deal.

host: do i have something to update you on that. we are going to stick with israel for now. joe in baltimore, maryland, independent line. caller: hello, good morning, world. i have been listening to these calls for years and with israel i don't know where to start. but we start from the beginning. if everyone, those ones who believe in the bible, i suggest you get the complete works ofo cfius, he tells you how all this got started. how all of it got started. as far as the war with israel. who is israel? israel is the product of alexander the great. we have the history, we read our history we'll find exactly what it's all about. host: joe, how would that impact the question at hand. caller: because it will explain to you -- host: i want you to tell me how do you think israel should

accept a permanent cease-fire, should they end the war? caller: israel are the start of all our wars. israel is the start. if you read what josephus wrote, he will explain to us how to stop world war iii. those one that is call joseph and the bible. when you get his complete works thatwhen you get the truth, he d he wrote it for the greeks. he went from joseph to josephus. the names change. he's the writer of your books. seven books of josephus. host: here is the times of israel. israel agreed to withdraw from parts of philadelphi at the egypt-gaza border. proposal requires up a lot from

credit areas of the corridor in phase one. idf will control it indefinitely. israel would fully withdraw in phase two. let's look at a portion of the state department briefing. here is matt miller, the spokesperson. [video] >> plea made it clear what our principles are when it comes to an ongoing israeli presence in israel. we make clear in the proposal -- sorry. thank you. of course. first day at the podium in a few weeks. we have made clear what her opinion is on the -- our opinion is on the ongoing israeli presence. we made clear what we believe about the israeli presence in gaza and we are opposed to it.

in the bridging proposal we put forward that the government of israel agreed. it did include the removal of the idf from densely populated areas. as i said, there are a number of details requiring further negotiations to conclude how the parties will live up to their commitments under the agreement. that is what we continue to discuss. host: in other news regarding ukraine, the new york times reporting this headline. ukraine foreign minister offers to resign as zelenskyy plans cabinet shakeup. president zelenskyy was poised to carry out the biggest change to his government since moscow's invasion. rescuers dug through the rubble of a deadly strike in eastern ukraine as russia launched new attacks. that's at the new york times.

this is rick in ohio, republican. caller: good morning. host: what do you think about the israel-hamas work? should israel accept a permanent cease-fire? caller: i do think you can negotiate with terrorists. second, i don't think it's a permanent solution. i think a permanent solution is the same thing needs to happen to hamas that's happened to former terrorist groups all around the world. until then they will not be peace. host: tim in jail echo, tennessee. -- jelicho, tennessee. caller: i don't see what the out-earn gaza over to egypt and let egypt police it. after they get done there they

should go north into lebanon and kick hezbollah out of there. they got kicked out of jordan and they went to lebanon. they caused chaos ever since up there. why don't they -- i think that is a -- it would bring some peace to them. i do think you can ask people to stop fighting when you're trying to wipe them out, annihilate them from earth. host: here is amir in austin hill, maryland. caller: good morning. host: go right ahead. you are on the air. caller: thank you very much. i listen to your show on my way to work. i love it. i want to say that first. i was born in the middle east. i have always heard of the

conflict between israel and palestine. this is not the first time in my lifetime. this is not the first war. when i hear people say -- i don't think so. in 1948, israel occupied palestine. there must be a resistance. where is the line between resistance and terrorism? if you look at gaza, it was like a prison. there was no israeli controls but they were controlling from the outside. they need to resist whoever is imprisoning them. if you look at the west bank, that's a different story. israel has been controlling that. the people of israel can go to any house, any land and just grab it. you can see where some people

would go there [indiscernible] where do we draw the line? host: i hear what you are saying about that line. what to you think of popular opinion among palestinians towards hamas? has it changed over the course of this war? are they blaming hamas for bringing israeli troops and bombs on top of them? caller: i don't think so. they look at them as resistors to an occupier. why are they blaming hamas? they are going to kill them anyways. resist, or live free or die. that is what they are doing. host: you think the palestinian people are even more supportive

of hamas as somebody that has been helping them? caller: of course. even in the west bank. they are trying to start assisting -- resisting the israelis. there is no hamas in the west bank. eventually they would create another hamas or another name in the west bank and then start fighting with israel. at that point the opinion of the u.s. will be it's an invasion. if you look at it in the normal -- the movies or anywhere else, they are resistance. host: let's go to the bronx, republican. olympia, you are in. caller: how are you today? host: good, thanks. caller: israel has nothing to do with -- they should not have a

decision in the cease fire or conducting the cease fire. they should be made to have a cease fire. this is an absolute siege on a civilian population. labeling eight group terrorists is the appeal for garnering support from the masses around the world. if you are paying attention to the things that are actually happening and you are seeing these videos being broadcast live, some of the articles that are being posted online through actual news and media websites about some of the atrocities and tactics engaged in by the idf forces against civilians. i don't know if that wouldn't change hearts and minds of some of the people making some of the comments they are making about

wiping out hamas. i have not seen a battlefield yet. what i have seen is the utter destruction and movement of women, babies, pregnant folks, elderly, disabled and men trying to help this population of people. healthy, able men who are able to help the population that they feel is most needy. i don't understand. hamas is not the reason. it is the excuse. it is the scapegoat for the decimation of these people. all the while, there has been construction and drilling the land and occupation of the land for its resources. the means to get all this is to

remove the people who are already there. a built up animosity. this is not something that is new. i don't think this is anything that is new, what is going on in palestine. israel is in palestine. it has its own area. the jewish people from palestine are jewish people. they did not need to be partitioned. this is what happened. it is causing conflict because one group has support from big poppa, the larger western country, and is using that support to push over a poorer, not defended native group. host: this is kate on facebook. should the white house, harris especially, stop their moral relativism? harris told him not to go into

rafa. the hostages would be alive if they did. there is going to be the first presidential debate next week on sunday. we will have live coverage of that. that is the abc news presidential debate between vp harris and former president trump. live, tuesday, september 10. you can watch coverage beginning at 8:00 p.m. eastern. in light of that debate, c-span is running a poll. do you think debates matter? will impact your vote this fall? vote now. it is at c-span.org/poll, or use the qr code on your screen right now and we will be showing you results throughout the week from the poll. back to our topic on israel, hamas and possible cease fire. this is jeff. dearborn, michigan.

democrat. caller: good morning. good job. a lot of callers this morning seem to be laboring under the notion that the bible is a legal document. did that happen when i wasn't looking? that is all i got. thanks. host: tiny in berkshire, texas. republican. caller: good morning. how are you? i think -- i'll put it like this. would you want to live with a rattlesnake? would anyone want to live with a rattlesnake? hamas. israel needs to do what samuel told saul god wanted him to do. go down and wipe them out. every one of them. even the animals. that is what israel needs to do. i don't understand how people can be calling in and supporting

a terror organization that has just slaughtered people. they want to call for a cease fire? no. the israeli prime minister is doing right. biden is wrong for not giving him the weapons he needs to destroy them. thank you very much and have a god blessed day. host: john in cleveland, ohio. good morning. caller: good morning. host: what do you think? caller: there should be a cease fire. people say it started on october 7. no, this started before october 7. the israeli government has been arming the extreme right jews with automatic weapons to kill kids throwing rocks. bulldozing homes. for years and years. violence -- even though israel

was attacked, violence don't solve problems. it causes more problems. i think america should stop being a flunky for the israeli government. if they don't, we will be in a war with iran. that is their goal. have a good day. host: here is salvador in california, democrat. caller: good morning. we are already in a war with iran. they have been attacking us for months now. the only way we can have a permanent cease fire is if we get the ayatollah, which would take a strong president, which we don't have. if the united states, israel and iran got together and said enough enough this -- enough of

this nonsense. people are dying. we have to put an end to it or let's really get it on. was it reagan who took the oil platforms out so they had no way to make what they used to finance the houthis and hamas and hezbollah, the tentacles that come from iran? that's about it. a few things to think about. host: alan from hawaii, independently. -- independent line. caller: thank you for taking my call. i decided to blow my 30-day window here. i need to ask you. i'm asking you to get a few important guests on in the next few days like michael durand.

i'm looking at the article that appeared a few weeks ago in mosaic called the anti-israel sanctions machine. it appeared on august 11. the article's premise, which has a lot of evidence to it is that the biden administration -- the first administration to have created a targeting group of sanctions against israel in a subtle way that could accompany directly to the administration. it was done in the light of making the u.s. appear as an ally but also politically favorable to all of the problems domestically and also even some of the political reverberations going on in the world against israel. the problem is it will backfire. israel, like any prime minister,

it could have been anybody. this modus operandi was designed to target the netanyahu and some of the more conservative politically right people in his group. any prime minister, any leader who has faced this type of problem with an organization which has created an army underground which is able to fight a war and bring captive hostages underground and do the strategic attack using allies, including north korea to help build tunnels, iran is funding them. qatar is basically involved too, even though they are supposedly negotiating. these are problems that have never been seen. israel is doing everything they can do to basically prevent this.

you had other guests speak. israel had already had a gigantic cease-fire with gaza. they removed graves. they gave gaza hot houses to basically have complete autonomy and continue to supply water and utilities. this is not something israel was exciting. they were hoping hamas could become more tame. that was a dangerous idea and they were wrong and they are paying the political price for it, both domestically and internationally. that doesn't mean they don't have a right to completely retaliate and eradicate. the premise that you cannot remove ideology has to be weighed in the sense that we get rid of the ideology of the nazis and the japanese army. you still have them.

they coexist. the ideology has become very, very subdued internationally because the war was won. not because we basically had a cease fire but the war had to be won in order for that to actually start to happen. a war has to be won. you have to mitigate it to prevent innocent people from being killed and that's a problem. people who are attacking or hiding behind innocent people as a strategic method of preventing their demise. host: the article he mentioned is called the anti-israel sanctions machine by michael durand of hudson institute. it is on tabletmag.com if you would like to take a look at that. timothy from vermont, democrat. caller: good morning, mimi.

prior to october 7 -- first of all, the mossad is one of the most sharpest counterintelligence agencies on the planet. now, the mossad knew exactly what the hell hamas wanted to do prior to october 7. you will have to bear in mind that netanyahu is in a lot of trouble. he and his wife. it's analogous to trump wanting to run for office because he is in so much trouble. netanyahu knew what the heck was going on. the mossad knew what hamas was going to do.

neither does hamas care about the palestinians. they are playing a chess game and the palestinians are the pawns. host: here is the times of israel with this. what military support does the u.s. give israel? it says, what age is mandated by law? in 2016, the u.s. and israeli government signed a 3010-year memorandum of understanding covering the. from october 1, 2018 to september 30 of 2028. that provides a total of $30 billion in military aid over the 10 years. $33 billion in grants to buy military equipment and $5

billion for missile-defense systems. here is the report on x. if israel wants to fight aware of annihilation, that's their business. the u.s. should not be funding the war. the u.s. should not be giving foreign aid to any country. fernando and galveston, texas. republican. caller: good morning. i wouldn't say it's a good morning at. my problem is that too much stuff is going on around the world. i wish somebody could do something about what's going on in new york. it is getting crazy. real crazy. that's all i gotta say. host: lewis in baldwin, louisiana. independent. caller: good morning. people going back to the bible and saying this about the bible, god is with the israelis.

that is one man's view. the bible was written by men. the israelis did the same thing when they were trying to get their country before 1949. menachem begin was a terrorist. the israelis were terrorists just like a mosses. they did -- hamas is. they did the same thing to the people that was there then. the israelis got put out. jews have the diaspora. that was not there land. -- their land. the country was made by the western powers. they created this problem because they put the israelis on people that were already on the land. it's the promised land but it is

not the promised land anymore. other people have the land. the israelis had to go take the land anyway from the people that were there before they got there. when they came out of egypt. let's keep all the stuff in perspective. the israelis did the same thing to the people that were there before the country got born. there were terrorists -- they were terrorists. host: laura in new britain, connecticut. caller: good morning. i believe it is netanyahu's fault. like the other man said. 1945 or so, after the terrible things that happened to the jews we gave them the land in israel. since then, netanyahu and them have been taking sentiments, expanding territory, pushing up palestinians, etc.

that is what is breeding hamas and terrorist to get angry. israel is basically doing what was done to them in germany. there will never be peace because of netanyahu. every palestinian that is killed now will hate israel for generations. we should tell netanyahu know where money until there is a cease fire and some of the palestinians can live in peace with them. thank you. host: joe on the independent line in maine. good morning. caller: thanks for taking my call. the color before just tell lame thunder except for one thing. i ask everyone to please go to fox >> we believe you to lived with discussion of the 2020 four

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