♪ host: good morning it is friday, 27th. eric adams was indicted accused of wire fraud, bribery and losing campaign money from a foreign national. the mayor has denied the charges and is appeared -- said to appear in court today. we will get your reaction to that news. democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. and independents 202-748-8002.

we also have a line set aside for residents of new york city, 202-748-8003. you can use that same line to text us area to include your first name, city or state -- city and state. you can also find us on social media.com. -- at social media. welcome to today's washington journal, the front page of the new york times. adams charged with bribery and fraud, the article says this that the mayor and former police captain who ran on a lawn order platform was consumed by accusations of corruption of years accepting free airline tickets, lavish overseas accommodations and illegal campaign donations from turkey. in return for the gifts and donations, mr. adams used his influence as brooklyn borough president and later as mayor to

assist turkish officials with issues they were facing in the city. prosecutors said most notably in obtaining safety clearances from the fire department for a new high-rise turkish consulate building. let's take a look at the front page of the new york post. feds charge mayor for exchanging favors. here is the u.s. attorney from the district of new york announcing the charges against the mayor. >> we are announcing campaign finance, bribery and asked -- conspiracy charges against eric adams, the mayor of new york city. mayor adams engaged in a long-running conspiracy in which he solicited and knowingly accepted illegal campaign contributions from foreign donors and corporations. mayor adams took these contributions even though he knew they were illegal and even

though these contributions were attempts by turkish government official and turkish businessmen by influence with them. we also allege the mayor sought well over 100,000 dollars in luxury travel benefits from some of the same foreign actors who arranged any of the illegal campaign contributions. these benefits included free international business class flights and opulent hotel rooms in foreign cities. the mayor had a duty to disclose these gifts on his annual public disclosure forms so that the public could see who was giving and watched. as we allege, year after year he kept the public in the dark. he told the public he received no if's even though he was secretly being showered with them. we allege adams accepted these knowing they would be gifted to him because of his position and in exchange for some of those improper benefits he intervened in the new york city fire

department inspection process for a building owned and operated the turkish government. guest: we are getting your reaction to that news, the first sitting mayor of new york city to be indicted on the front page of the new york times details on those charges, if you'd like to read it it's one count conspiracy to commit wire fraud and accept bribes, one count of wire fraud, two counts of solicitation of a contribution by foreign national and one count of bribery. here is the new york city mayor eric adams responding to those charges. >> we are not surprised. we expected this. this is not surprising to us at all. the actions that have unfolded over the last 10 months, the

leaks, commentaries, the demonizing, this did not surprise us that we reached this day. and i wait to hear our defense before making any judgments. in about 30 minutes you will hear a story of the case that is in front of us, the story will come from the federal prosecutor and i ask to wait and hear our side to these narratives. from here my attorneys will take care of the case like they take -- like i take care of the city. the day-to-day will not change. i will continue to do the job for 8.3 million new yorkers that i was elected to do. and the 300,000 plus employees other cities government who

continue to do their jobs because this is what we do as new yorkers. it is an insult to the people of the city that anyone would say that they won't do their jobs while this case proceeds in the background. we are dedicated public servants and i have been one of them for many years. and they are going to continue to do their job moving the city forward every day. it's an unfortunate day and it's a painful day. but inside of all of that we will finally rebuild, why for 10 months i have gone through this. and i look forward to defending myself and defending the people of this city. as i have done throughout my entire professional career. >> here is the wall street

journal with the headline how eric adams became new york city's first indicted mayor. it says he once declared himself the face of the new democratic party, started his term as new york second black mayor and amid background chatter of how he could play a bigger role in national politics. it was an open question among some strategists and established democrats how others in the party emulate adams's pragmatic insight and -- plain spoken approach to politics when many invented voters found them too liberal not of touch. stubborn crises of crime and immigration and the past 10 months of the mayor's term have been dominated by inquiries into the conduct of adams and his confidantes. after prosecutors charge the mayor thursday with bribery, fraud and campaign-finance is the big question is will you resign.

it says the indictment is left adams fighting for his life, who spent most -- more than two decades with the new york police department before entering the politics of the most populous bureau in the city. >> this is former president trump asked about mayor adams and the indictment in a conference in new york city yesterday. [video clip] >> i don't know the mayor but he's been fairly generous to me in statements for a while paid i thought you had the merce -- worst mayor ever prior to him. i will say this i watched about a year ago when he talked about how the illegal migrants are hurting our city and the federal government should pay us send we shouldn't have to take them and i said you know what you'll be indicted within a year and i was exactly right. because that's what we have.

we have people who use the justice department and the fbi at levels that have never been seen before. so i wish him luck, i don't know anything about what he did, but i told a lot of groups, that group was there. when they mentioned that i said i came in and he was pretty strong about it. he said this is really unfair to make us carry this burden, we shouldn't be doing this, this is new york city. i just passed recently madison avenue, the roosevelt hotel. nobody was recognized in midtown. he came out strongly against it pretty was right by the way that it's ruining our country per he was honest and i said he will be indicted within a year and that's what happened. i noticed the indictment is very old, it goes back a long time. they went way before the statute of limitations.

so i wish him well but i said he will be indicted because he did that. you take a look, that's what they do. these are bad people, they cheat and they do anything necessary. these are bad people and we need an honest justice department, we need an honest fbi. >> that's former president trump yesterday we are taking your calls, we are having a bit of trouble with our phone lines this morning but please do not give up. continue to call in we will get it fixed. but, to give you a update on the hurricane now tropical storm it's weakened to a tropical storm with maximum sustained winds of 70 miles per hour. it's now over georgia and it continues to weaken while moving further inland over georgia, about 40 miles east of macon and about 100 miles southeast of

atlanta moving north at 30 miles per hour. that was a 5:00 a.m. about two hours ago. and it says it made landfall in northwestern florida. the category four storms as forecasters warned, the enormous system could create a nightmare storm surge and bring dangerous winds and rain across much of the southeastern u.s.. there were at least three storm-related deaths. hurricane center said helene warmed ashore thursday near the mouth of the oslo river in the big bend area in the gulf coast. it had maximum sustained winds estimated at 140 miles per hour. that location was only about 20 miles northwest of where hurricane it value came ashore last year. at nearly the same ferocity that caused widespread damage. they're quite a bit of people reporting power outages we

certainly wish them the best. fema administrator ian criswell was a white house briefing yesterday and she was asked about fema's resources and their ability to respond to this storm. >> this is likely to be the 21st billion-dollar weather or climate disaster this year. so do they have the resources on this disaster on something like this. >> we have absolutely continuing to support the lifesaving response that we need to for this event. i think everybody is aware we went into funding as her disaster relief fund was running low. the reason we do that is to make sure we have enough money for an event just like this. we want everyone to know we have exactly what we need and there are no limitations in our ability to support this disaster. as we continue to go through the recovery bill from all these disasters that also takes personnel and we will continue to work through with states and

what they need. and how we can adjudicate those resources but we are seeing an increase and we are seeing a strain on the staff with more of them deployed for longer periods of time helping support the communities recovery. >> also related to the money here, pretty substantial losses projected in terms of the profit-sharing. and there's no new money in the cr as far as this is concerned. any you'll have to go back for supplemental. >> we put a supplemental request in it doesn't give us supplement at this time. i will give the ability put forth in the president's budget. we are already through inf $9 billion in projects that we have put on hold we cannot reimburse communities for. once we left ins and once the cr goes into effect we will be able to pay those without a

supplemental we will be back in ins probably in the january timeframe. host: we certainly wish everybody the best in the path who's already been affected by that storm. we are taking your calls this morning, we have been having some trouble with our phone lines so we apologize for that. do not give up. the numbers are democrats, 202 --202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents 202-748-8002. give it a try and hello, you are on the air. good morning. is it jerry? caller: yes it is. host: you got through. caller: i kept getting caught offer some reason. host: we are having technical troubles, sorry about that. go right ahead you are on the air.

caller: this is jerry from kansas and i was going to ask you anyway democrats one of the going to admit that quite frankly eric adams hasn't done anything that the other -- eric adams has done. taking money from foreign countries like the bidens have done with china and russia and the clintons have done the same thing. and quite frankly democrats seem to be racist they can get rid of him because he's black and they are a threat to democracy because he was elected by the people so trump is giving you the fact that he was elected and there's no other way to get rid of him then to indict him. so usually the democrats stick together but eric adams crossed

the biden administration by saying that they were allowing illegals and president trump said a fact that he be indicted within a year and he is. thank you for taking my call. >> is this doug? are you there? >> good morning, go ahead. caller: ok. i would like to know why we can't put trump in office if he's more capable and when biden was acting it was maybe two years ago when they said there were floods in california and there wasn't and flu over helicopter and i don't know if you know what's going on on the east coast but i knew what was going on because i lived in california and i watched trucks full of water. host: we are talking about eric adams, the indictment in new york city. you have a comment about that? caller: i just have a comment that biden is just --, his vice

president is incompetent and they both need to be under amendment to. host: we will get to open forum later in the program so you can certainly call and during that time. janet. is it janet? caller: yes. host: what's your name? caller: jeff. host: go right ahead, you are on the air. caller: how are you doing. host: i'm doing ok. caller: i just want to respond to that last caller, the level of ignorance and disinformation from these republicans is astounding. you know the law knows no color, no political persuasion or whatever. eric adams if he is found guilty he will be held accountable just like the republicans lord and master donald trump.

so, hunter biden has been investigated by the trump -- biden administration as well as bob menendez and these guys are democrats. they just give up the kool-aid and they worship a criminal, a known sexual predator, a draft dodger and cult leader and these people are mentally disturbed. they are just mentally disturbed. host: looks like we lost that one. let's try. hello, you are on the air. caller: good morning this is peter from seattle washington. i think the mayor should hire clarence thomas as an attorney there in the same boat. that's all i wanted to say.

>> let's try this one, is it carol? caller: hello. are you there? >> is the c-span? >> you are on washington journal, good morning. caller: this is carol. host: go right ahead. what did you want to say about the indictment against mayor adams? caller: mayor adams did no more than what trump did, i don't know why they're resting trump or any opinions. he's not the president of the right -- asking trump or any opinions paid their always asking him like he's an authority on something. and he is nothing for it he is a criminal. trump is a criminal. it shows it in new york. he did more than what this guy did and is getting away with it. host: carol, this is on x from

andr from punch bowl news who says -- who quotes schumer, senatochk schumer of new york sinthis, no one is above theawncluding the mayor of new york city. the charges are serious and the legal process should now play out immediately and fairly. and this is th statement from hakeem jeffries from the house miri leader, the indictment a sittingayor is a serious and be moment for new york city. likeve other new yorker he is entitled to the resumption of innocence. that principle is central to the ministration of justice in the united states of america. a jerry of e yors peers will now evaluate the chargesn e indictment and ultimately render a determination. in the meantime i pray for the well-being of our great city. betty. hello?

what's your name? betty. >> go right ahead, what's your comment on mayor adams indictment. >> what i think is they need to get the democrats in the senate and this country will come back to like trump says, make it great again. people are hurting and all and they go out, it's not surprising when they went after him. anything you say, and we have the right, i was born american and i'm always going to be an american. and they don't have the right to tell us what to do. where the ones who put them into

office they're supposed to be doing for us, not for everybody else. don't do nothing for us. >> yesterday at the white house briefing, the press secretary was asked about the indictment of the new york city mayor. >> the democratic mayor of new york city eric adams has been charged with wire fraud and using campaign funds from a foreign government. does the president think he should resign. >> numb not on a particular ongoing matter i will at the doj handle that. >> matt in missouri, are you there? caller: how are you doing. host: i'm doing ok. caller: a few callers back a woman called in and started ragging on biden and said we are talking -- you said we are

talking about adams and you can call later and hit the button and hung up on her. but then two calls later a guy calls and saying all of this about trump and his supporters are called members and he's a sexual -- convicted of a sexual -- first all he's never been convicted of any sex crime. i wish any democrat would show that. and the same people that fell for the jussie smollett thing of the same people falling for her. we all know it per nothings can happen. he's can get his money back. it's just can it take two years to do it. you can walk into a courtroom and say he raped me and get $90 million paid it doesn't work like that. there is no evidence. she doesn't have any memory of it other than -- host: are we talking about a different case? if you don't mind getting back to the eric adams we are to do that for the first half-hour of the program. caller: now that i got that out

about the call thing. why hasn't anybody been said about we know that biden has over $30 million from china, four years ago exactly biden stat on the stage saying my family never gets any money from china. i don't know any of my sons business partners. now they have the laptop -- host: there is a house committee on or a subcommittee on the -- i guess those allegations. if anything happens that will definite show up here on c-span. tricia. caller: yes. host: go right ahead. caller: good morning. host: yes good morning, go right ahead. caller: thank you. i'm wondering why everyone is

evading this topic about -- i'm wondering why there evading the topic about eric adams. host: go ahead what did you want to say about it? caller: he's been, he hasn't been convicted yet but just like represented schumer said he is innocent until proven guilty. our former president been found guilty of numerous charges and nothing still has happened yet. so i'm not understanding why everyone's debating the point they keep bringing up trump like he is a god and he's above the law but he's not. thank you. >> jan in pennsylvania. caller: i wanted to say it doesn't make a difference if it's a republican or democrat, those politicians they know the rules and they know the law. they know what they're supposed

to do and what they can do as far as campaign money and so forth. i don't care what party it is. if they break the law and they are found guilty by court then you are guilty. and just like someone they shouldn't be allowed to run for president found guilty and all that. so i don't care whether -- what your race is or religion is, what your party affiliation is. if you break the law and they know the law. a lot of those people have a legal background. so if you are doing something there and you break the law, yes whoever you are you are found guilty. then yes you should step down from politics. i don't care what party because they try to have one set of rulings just like for trump, but

he's been doing things for many years. but all the things he does and has done and then they say oh it should just be swept under the rug and whatever. if they treat everybody, both parties when they break the law and are found guilty the same and make him leave politics completely, they can run again for office. that would be the right thing to do. host: here is democratic new york congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez commenting before the indictment came out. [video clip] >> right now i think this is squarely about mayor adam's ability to govern new york city and for the new york city governance needs to be fully staffed to serve the people of new york city and frankly under this constant stream of scandals i do not know if the city will be able to even for all these resignations and vacancies at

this point. so it is a very unfortunate time. we do not want to see this happening in our city unfortunately it is and i think so we can continue to staff the administration of the city it would be best for mayor adams to step down. >> we are taking your calls, this is steve in massachusetts. >> good morning. i just wanted to say really think the doj, our country is turning into russia running around in their legalizing everything that's going on and they choose and they pick who they attack with pelosi's husband who just sold $1 million worth of stock the day before visa got into trouble. that seemed kind of odd. political prisoners which is going on in this country and were turning into a third world with the assassination attempt of donald trump, nothing to see

there, nothing going on. the bidens, nothing really going on there. they pick and choose who they are going to attack, their political opponents and it goes on and on. it will come out whether or not eric adams took rooms and had flights and that will come out but to have the running around attacking people politically which is that is what it looks like to me, is a serious problem and people have to worry whether or not they hate america or than a hate donald trump. thank you. host: we will switch over to open forum if there's anything else you would like to talk about you can certainly discuss this topic of the indictment of mayor adams or anything else that might be on your mind, policy, of the campaign, the numbers are on your screen and it's 202-748-8000 free democrats, 202-748-8001 for

republicans paid independents 202-748-8002. let's talk to joseph in maryland. hello, good morning. >> good morning and thank you for taking my calls. i want to say this. i came into thewe aspire to be . now, seriously, america the world is watching. it reminded me of where i came from. . this is the same thing we keep seeing. why we should wait until someone have their opinion then we can go after what the person has done.

this is known ahead of time what these people are doing. now, it shows they said something democrats don't like to hear from their side and they are going after him. we saw this same thing from cuomo. why only democrats? it doesn't matter if it is democrat or republican. we should apply the law at the right time. we shouldn't wait until things are happening and then go after them. this is just harassment. we are going after these people for a reason, because they oppose. convincing people not to talk or say their mind. we should not let it go that way. that is my opinion, seriously. with the election coming, people should take out their voice and express this.

in the country where i came from, we can see it happening every day. the only thing different here is you cannot arrest someone and put them in jail. without any reason. it is just the same thing. i don't want to be in the same thing -- the same thing in a different place. host: we got that point, joseph. stephen and gladstone, michigan says, corruption should not be tolerated on either side of the aisle. he should have his day in court. that was by text. we will talk now to bart in springville, alabama. democrat. good morning. caller: i will say this about

the guy talking about the doj picks and choose. when donald trump was in office he had his picks and choose. the doj was a gang. what i will agree with with the guy from maryland, this whole thing is nothing but the same thing. this is a third world nation now. you got people that is just plain out corrupt for political gain. donald trump should not be a felon. he's running for president. if obama would have done that, everyone would have had him in jail. host: bart, i am happy to announce our phone lines are back up to normal. i appreciate your patience this

morning. robert in washington, d.c. independent line. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call, c-span. the guy who was talking about trump, biden, $30 million to china. i know the republicans over the years, putting two and two together, the republicans usually don't like -- i remember when reagan was in office come the air traffic controllers, he opened the doors diplomatic relations with russia. bush broke down and opened doors

with china. biden had nothing to do with china at all. it was bush who opened the doors to the u.s. and china. what is little known is bush is who brokered the deal between the u.s. and china. his son opened that dialogue between the u.s. and china. then, as republicans go on, and i listened, they are not really of topic informed. they call about, say, gas prices. most don't remember in 2004 that gas prices reached five dollars plus per gallon. that was 20 something years ago. they are complaining now but the cost of gas. people don't remember is that is when they added ethanol to the gasoline. so --

host: robert, we will go to lance in austin, texas. republican, good morning. caller: good morning. how are you? host: good. caller: i would like to bring up the fact of fentanyl and the effect it is having on the youth and younger people in america. it's a big problem. china has put us in a bad spot. i don't think these people should be treated like they are drug addicts. i think they should be treated as if they are victims. it is the way that they have been able to infiltrate us. china and mexico, they don't have us in their good graces. i don't think enough people are putting concerns to that. it is killing people every day. so many young high schoolers have died from this. there is a good way to regulate it and go about it. i think some at -- some

advocatation should be put forth to this. host: can i ask how old you are? caller: i am 32. host: have you seen the impact of fentanyl on people you know, friends and family? caller: every day. several of my close friends have died from fentanyl. i have people who use fentanyl around me every day. it's giving a false narrative. it's not exactly what the media portrays it to be. not everybody dies from fentanyl. a lot of people who build up a tolerance to it, they are on this every day. they are not dying from it, but it is something they're scared to get off of but would like to. the withdrawals and everything like that, it's a scary thing to go forward with. host: do you carry narcan with you?

caller: yes, both the nasal and intravenous shot. you can see people when they have nodded out, overdosed, and stuff like that. it's not happening to people who are every day users. it is happening to people who are taking normal street drugs -- i say normal, but prescription drugs like xanax that are normal scripts. kids are trying to get a xanax to calm down from the pressures of high school and getting something laced with fentanyl when they are not expecting it to be. that is where a lot of overdoses are happening as opposed to -- host: they are buying the so-called xanax on the street? why are they not getting it from a pharmacy? caller: there is a big halt on the dea with doctors.

they put their licenses on the line if they overprescribing. there is only a certain amount of people that they can prescribe. whoever is grandfathered in are the ones seeking that out. when i was in high school, only prescription pills were available for people anywhere. mexico is sending all of this pressed medication. everything is laced with fentanyl now. i carry test strips to test if fentanyl is in a particular substance. it is like it is in the cheerios. host: lance, appreciate you calling in. doug in rust, texas. caller: how are you doing? host: good. caller: i used to be a republican, but they got to where they wouldn't pursue these matters of corruption in government.

democrats -- there are democrats out there that know -- just party and set up what they should be doing. if we don't hurry and turn this around, we ain't going have no country. the border alone is enough reason not to be voting for kamala harris. trump, he is not somebody i would go out and have a barbecue with, but at least he loves this country, you know. he does what he says he's going to do. you pretty well know what he's done. i think we need to worry about this deficit and turning this world around or we are going to be in trouble. thank you. host: here is john in el paso, texas. republican. caller: yes, good morning. how are you?

i am calling from el paso. you know what, it is shameful what happened with the mayor in new york, but there are a lot of other ones doing the same. another person is escobar in el paso who is a state representative doing the same thing. she is getting paid by all of these minority groups and they're letting all of these migrants come in. she is sponsoring a candidate in el paso who is running for sheriff, who does not have any experience whatsoever, just because he is a constable. that is the only thing he's got for himself. it's very sad. this individual, the same thing. he does illegal arrests and stuff like that, but he's going to get caught. now, he is a constable. he hasn't resigned from his office. that is illegal in the state

system. it is like the mayor in new york. they are doing things illegally. veronica and beth o'rourke are doing the same thing. they're pushing their little cronies, having them do all these things, you know. it is very sad with that mayor in new york did, but like i said, there are other people running these towns, especially here in el paso, you know. the democrats, you know, there is a lot of them out here. it's overwhelming. the republicans are a minority in el paso. veronica is one of them that decided to support individuals like that -- host: let's go to upstate new york, buffalo, democrat, eric, good morning. caller: good morning. how are you doing? i wanted to touch back on something that happened. -- sebastian gorka called me a

racist bigot because i talked about immigrants. then i see him on kamala harris. you have to look that up. i'm not going to get into that, but i wanted to respond. i don't have nothing against immigrants. as a matter of fact, god said take care of the least of us. they have no idea these people in need. everything donald trump does attack the immigrants is ridiculous. he can't even talk about the mayor without throwing immigrants into the picture. so, moving forward, republicans, that's not rain, because rain is not yellow. \ host: this is gail in liberty hill, texas. caller: yes, hello.

host: hi. caller: yeah. i am very, very concerned at what has taken place here in my town, in my area. i'll tell you, this country has been invaded. it's sad, because -- it's unbelievable how our borders have been wide open. no one cares about who is coming into this country. host: gail, where is liberty hill? how far are you from the border? caller: i am probably -- gosh, probably 200, 300 miles. host: i was going to say that it

is ok if you don't know, but go ahead with your comment. caller: i am in central texas. what has happened with our town, i don't recognize it anymore. and the crime that has gone up. the kids are having trouble in school with -- they are overloaded. it's just overwhelming. the traffic. just everything is overcrowded. everything has changed in this place. we are just overwhelmed and shocked, and it's really, really frightening to think that everyone is ignoring what's happening. i can't believe, i can't believe how this place has changed. we are all in shock.

we just look around and think, why are they doing this? you know, i see -- it is fearful. i used to be able to leave my house unlocked. now, i have to lock my house during the day. when i go shopping i have to look around to see when i go to go to my vehicle. it's changed. it's changed. no one is doing anything about it. you know, my grandson at school gets bullied. it's -- it's changed. it's changed. no one -- we are devastated. you know, it's not just here.

when i talk to my friends in other states and stuff, they are being overwhelmed, too. they see the same thing. they can't believe it. when they go out and they go shopping and stuff, they look around and say, what has happened to our country? host: let's talk to stephanie in montclair, new jersey, democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. i just -- why does people keep saying that the border is wide open? there is a simple solution to all this. give the money to put in more judges. hello? host: we can hear you, go ahead, stephanie. caller: put in more judges so they can vet people and more

agents to catch the illegal -- those coming in illegally. i don't understand why that is so hard to understand. as far as trump is concerned, everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie. and people just believe it. he's calling republicans and donald trump are calling people, the democrats, communists. i -- hello. do you know the definition of communism? come on, guys. it just blows my mind that -- and kamala harris, she should do -- fix things now. host: let's talk to larry in

saint stephen, minnesota. independent, good morning. caller: howdy. host: howdy. caller: i have been watching over in the middle east. people getting shot like fish in a barrel. we seem to be right behind the people doing it. if these are god's chosen people -- host: you've got to watch the language, larry. corpus christi, texas. good morning. caller: hello? host: hi, you are on the air. go ahead. caller: i am going to back up with the lady said earlier about migrants coming through texas. i have a hunting lease 10 miles from the rio grande river. i had to give it up because the illegals were trashing our ranch house.

just trashing it. the mexican radio stations on the border, they are helping bring the illegals in on their radio programs. that needs to be looked into by the sec. host: when you say the radio stations, are you saying the ones in mexico? caller: no, right along the rio grande river there are 25 radio stations between brownsville and el paso. every little town has a radio station. the town that i was close to was called roma. host: how are they helping people to cross the border? caller: joe biden and kamala harris sent them a program to read on the air. ok, in spanish, now.

i can understand spanish because i have been around mexicans since 1949. i am not a young guy. they are saying, you can come to the border now, and you can come and get into the u.s. anywhere on the texas border. greg abbott has done a little bit to protect that, but that is what they have been programming to talk to the illegals. monterey, laredo have radio stations programming and talking about the same thing. now, back to my hunting lease. i had to give it up because the property was ransacked by illegals. a nice, concrete ranch house. they have torn the doors off.

we had refrigerators. they destroyed the refrigerators. bedding and all of that was throwed out on the porches. i know there was more than 10 people there from the evidence i see. i told the landowners that i can't be a member of the hunting club this year because of all of the destruction out there on your ranch. he agrees that he cannot lease it out for hunting this year. that's what i'm telling you. host: charles, marengo, ohio, democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. i would like to know if you are to do a program on "from russia with love." it was on msnbc. it told about lev parnas and all of the money that they funneled

to the congressman and trump. do a program on -- trump's son-in-law. got $2 billion from the arabs, saudi arabia. that's about it. thank you very much. host: tony is next in brooklyn, new york, independent. hi, tony. caller: hi, how are you? you do a great job. i have been a c-span viewer for decades. i am in brooklyn. i lived on the border for a long time. i am back in brooklyn the last couple of years. ironically, i live in a neighborhood called little haiti. i just want to report, all of my

cats -- i feed straight cats -- all of my cats are accounted for. i joke with my neighbors about it. they are the best people. i do have a comment on adams and the immigration. there is definitely an anti-immigration vibe in new york, which i've never seen before. you know, what's going on. it actually worked politically. what happened to adams is the case of a couple of things being true. he's definitely sleazy, for sure. that's no doubt about that, but he is also most likely getting payback for speaking out about the bussing of the immigrants. i used go to the roosevelt hotel in midtown. trump actually commented -- and

i am an independent. there is no way i'm voting democrat or republican. that hotel, which is ironically owned by the pakistani airline, which is a government-owned airline, has been turned into a shelter. which is fine. i'm all for sheltering people who are refugees from bad places. but the country is a mess and the people -- the governor of texas shipping immigrants up to the northeast. i remember when i did live in arizona for 13 years, people in the northeast really didn't care. that border has been open for 400 years. the southern border has been wide open. it's about economics.

after the pandemic was over, the people come for jobs. i used the hire men down there because i did a lot of construction. small time, but i hired many men and women. it is all about economics. host: this is in "the new york post." mayor adams' term has been mired with squabbles over migrant influx and border prices. dale in columbus, ohio, democrat. good morning. caller: how are you? host: good. caller: good. that's good. if possible could you read online how many lawsuits donald trump has had over three decades? i googled it. over 4000 lawsuits in the past three decades. it's amazing. i am so amazed about donald trump. he, the american people, obama,

harris, anybody, these are american people, but he supports putin. putin cannot do any wrong. when the intelligence said russia was in love, why would i vote for him? i agree with putin, which is the enemy? when january 6 came and all of those police officers and security people were getting hurt and what have you, and then he comes down and says they were great patriots. i want to know, how in the world can people support him? springfield, ohio, mike dewine said there is no problem down here. these are legal immigrants. him and vance keeps saying, no, they are illegals and we have to do something. he should be behind bars. i just want everyone to have a nice weekend -- host: michigan, independent. caller: mimi, good morning.

yesterday i saw so much disinformation on your program that i actually dusted off my computer and went to the fact checker. there was a gentleman who was very upset about unrealized capital gains. it's part of vice president harris' economic program. i look it up. the park that has been mentioned in the news that i read on the fact checker, i think it was "the washington post," it has been mentioned in the news 80 times on fox news. the part they are not saying, and i heard it last night, they are not saying that your net worth has to be over $100 million. they are talking less than 1% of the population. all of these people who are worried about unrealized capital gains, they are not hearing the whole story. also, i looked into the $25,000

in mortgage help that is being talked about. that is not free money. that is wrapped up in the end of your mortgage. you have to pay the money back when your mortgage is done. they are getting half of the information. people get so excited. the one thing that really bothered me yesterday was people talk about you have to vote in person, vote in person. i happen to be very disabled now. with great difficulty i would be able to leave my home, but it would be very hard. so, i am voting absentee ballot. the idea that because you are disabled in this country you cannot leave your home, that you should not be able to vote, everyone should vote in person on election day, i think it is un-american. another lady called and said that her parents were still on the voters' role. she called and got them off and all that. again, i looked on the computer

and it took me a long time. you can't just call and get someone removed from the voter role. i knew this could not be correct. you can't even stop your mail without going to the post office. you have to have a death certificate. you have to show a death certificate to get someone off of the voter role. i looked that up. that is in all 50 states. the idea that you can just call up your local whatever and get somebody who has died off of the voter role is not true at all. thank you very much. host: all right, mary. that is it for this segment. there is more to come. coming up, shelby talcott joins us to discuss the week's top stories and campaign 2024. we will be right back.

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vice president harris is bidding the u.s.-mexico border in arizona, her first time since becoming the nominee to visit the border. what are you expecting? guest: today, kamala harris will be calling for tougher order restrictions in douglas, arizona 120 miles south of tucson come the second largest port of entry there. she will be continuing this message that we heard during the debate and elsewhere on the campaign trail when she says we had legislation that would have been the toughest border measures, restrictions on asylum-seekers in decades. former president trump urged republican senators to block this legislation. that is why it was not passed. she will try to hammer trump on this issue. immigration, if you look at polling, it is still an issue that she is struggling with. she has improved somewhat compared to where biden was when

he was the nominee, but it is still a liability. polling today, we have a new poll that shows her down six pots to donald trump in arizona. obviously, that is not a good si for her. other polls have it closer. one from bloomberg has her up. she is losing ground right now to the former president, so she will take that message. host: does the polls show that she is losing ground? is that worse than she has been or do we not know? guest: a couple of weeks ago there was a little bit of a bounce coming out of the debate. polling showed higher numbers in arizona than the six-point deficit we see trump has now. in the so-called sun belt states, she is not performing as well against trump as she is in the blue states of wisconsin,

michigan. host: let's listen to what trump said in advance of the trip from vice president harris. [video clip] fmr. pres. trump: for four years we have been living through the worst border crisis in the history of the world. there has never been anything like it. which has brought untold suffering, misery, and death upon our land. the architect of this destruction is kamala harris. when you look at the four years that have taken place, after being named border czar, kamala harris will be visiting the southern border that she has completely destroyed, from what i understand, tomorrow. why would she go to the border now playing right into the hands of her opponent? i mean, you look at this.

why would you do that? there can be no justification for what she's done. there is nobody saying, oh, gee, she has done a fabulous job. she has done the worst job in the history of any border, not just our border. she talks about how she supposedly wants to fix the border. we would merely ask, why didn't she do it four years ago? it is a very simple question. i can say this. \ with everything she has she talks about borders, and taxes, and all these different things. her policies on tax, by the way, are terrible. i can say with everything, why didn't she fix it almost four years ago? she's got no plans. got no talent. got no ability to do it. host: your reaction to that and also mr. trump's plans for mass deportation. how would that work? what you've learned about that?

guest: there are a few things during his remarks i've noticed. he is trying to tie her directly to president joe biden's policies, which have been one of the things when i talk to campaign aides they have been making a concerted effort to do. sometimes, it has been a struggle because donald trump can steer off message. when you look at the overarching message of his campaign, they are clearly trying to tie her to the last four years of immigration and the border situation in this country. also, you can tell, this is kamala harris encroaching on his territory in a way. as you said, this has been a topic that republicans feel is a winning issue for them. much like democrats feel abortion is a winning issue for them. this is donald trump trying to get ahead of this visit from kamala harris and say, no, she is responsible for the last four years in this country and it doesn't matter what she says

now. one of his big plans is this mass deportation effort. when i've talked to experts about this, the big thing is there will be legal, logistical hurdles. at the same time, his team is much more experienced than they were the first time around. they are likely going to be able to do this much more easily than they were last time. one of the big things donald trump talks about is deporting criminals first. that is likely going to be fairly easy for a theoretical trump administration to do. where it gets more difficult is after that. i've heard people bringing out workplace enforcement. going to work places and making sure that people are not undocumented migrants. that is where things get more difficult. not to mention, they will need more ice officers. they will need deportation centers, is something donald trump has brought up.

there is not enough of that in this country to do mass deportation plans. that is where it gets tricky. host: is there enough funding? guest: when i talk to experts, congress says, no we don't want to pay for more ice officers and detention centers. can donald trump go around congress? a lot of people think that he could. host: let's talk about the ukrainian president's visit to washington. he was in d.c. yesterday. vice president harris met with him. we will look at a portion of that. [video clip] v.p. harris: president zelenskyy i am clear, putin started this war and could end it tomorrow if he withdrew his troops from ukraine's sovereign territory. of course, he has demonstrated no intention of doing that. instead, he continues to assault civilian infrastructure and terrorize the people of ukraine. in switzerland in june, along with 90 other nations, at the

ukraine peace conference i told you that the united states shares your vision for the end of this war, an end based on the will of the people of ukraine and the u.n. charter, that we must work with the international community to secure a just and lasting peace. i told world leaders there that nothing about the end of this work can be decided without ukraine. however, in candor, i share with you, mr. president, there are some in my country who would instead force ukraine to give up large parts of its sovereign territory. who would demand that ukraine accept neutrality, and would require ukraine to forgo security relationships with other nations. these proposals are the same of those of putin.

let us be clear, they are not proposals for peace. instead, they are proposals for surrender. which is dangerous and unacceptable. so, president zelenskyy, i look forward to our discussion today and i will continue to work with you to ensure ukraine prevails in this conflict and remains a free, democratic, independent nation. welcome back again. host: joey garrison, your reaction. guest: the last comment was a not-so-failed statement to the wing of the republican party close to donald trump and maybe even somewhat the trump stance on this in terms of him not being as outspokenly aligned with ukraine in this conflict against russia. as we go to the meeting between

trump and zelenskyy, i think that she wanted to make that very clear ahead of that. yesterday, we heard kamala harris very much make clear that under her administration the u.s. would remain in lockstep and a fierce defender of ukraine. she wants to lean into traditional u.s. allies with nato. that is what she was trying to do yesterday with the ukrainian president. host: shelby talcott, joey mentioned that they are planning on meeting in new york. former president trump and ukrainian president zelenskyy. what are we expecting from that meeting? guest: it is an open question. tensions have been tense between president zelenskyy and donald trump come to say the least. we weren't sure that this meeting would happen because zelenskyy made critical comments about jd vance and the situation overall and that briefly imperiled the idea that they would be meeting.

then donald trump posted a message to truth social yesterday. the message was from zelenskyy basically asking him to please meet him in new york on friday. we learned during that donald trump press conference that you showed earlier that he had agreed to meet with him. do i expect there to be some kind of big breakthrough during this meeting? most likely not, but it is notable that zelenskyy and donald trump have agreed to meet, particularly because there have been criticisms about donald trump's wing of the party and their stance. they are more isolationist and that can cause worry for people like zelenskyy. host: do we know more details about the meeting? who will be in the room? how long is it scheduled to be? guest: we don't have details. i anticipate it would be a few hours long and i would be surprised of donald trump's closest advisers are not there.

that is typically how things operate. i'm sure that we will learn more this afternoon once the meeting is over. as you know, donald trump often likes to post about things. i'm sure that zelenskyy will issue a statement as well. host: we will take calls for our guests, shelby talcott and joey garrison. democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. anna in sun city, arizona. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. i am a deputy registrar in maricopa county. maricopa county has about 59% of the votes in arizona. i learned yesterday i would be registering some folks next week. i was told that there is a four-week six week lag or delay on new voter registration in maricopa county.

we had our attorney general, chris mays, won by something like 280 votes. if new voters are going to be one of the reasons why kamala harris wins, it is unacceptable that maricopa county is behind by four weeks to six weeks. they told me anyone who votes who is registered to vote, the deadline is october 7, they will have to do a provisional ballot at the vote center. apparently, they won't find out if their vote counts for four to six weeks until after they registered. has anyone looked into this? this really concerns me. we are very tight in arizona and it's upsetting that harris is dropping in the polls. this could be a real big problem, a big story in arizona, if it is voter registration that causes her to lose. guest: i had not heard about that, but obviously it sounds

like you are saying even if people get registered to vote before october 7 there may you lag -- may be a lag in when they are able to vote or they may have to vote provisionally. i know about the arizona state law, but i would assume that if you do register before the deadline you would be able to vote in some form or fashion. in terms of the process of counting those ballots, i'm not sure. host: mary in las vegas. democrat. hi, mary. caller: i would like to say, i'm not talking about the two guests that you have on, but please, people, watch the media you are listening to. newsmax just got sued by smartmatic for disinformation. just like fox did. they had to pay $787 million for lying to people. donald trump has been lying to

people since he came down the escalator. it's all about money. this family has been grifters the entire four years they were in the white house. as far as voting goes, this is a different version of the republican party we have in power now. there are suppression tactics going on all over the united states. look at saveyourvote.org. c-span, if you could play clips here and there from russia to lev, it will bring to light a lot of the extortion tactics that trump took and what they were trying to do. there is so much information out there that people are just hearing from extreme right-wingers. please, our country, our

democracy, no matter what you are complaining about -- the border, my god. there is a bill, passed the bill, call your congress people and tell them to pass the bill. it was done by langford. you don't get more conservative than that republican. host: any comments? guest: i think that the media landscape has changed over the last few years. there is more media, more podcasts, or avenues for people to get their information from. in terms of the last comment about the border, as we said earlier, that is one of the reasons we are seeing kamala harris now talk about the border more. they see it as an in. they have seen the border bill killed by donald trump and republicans. they are saying, this is our in. we have this border bill. they were the ones who killed it. guest: the caller said "pass the bill." that is what kamala harris is going to say on her trip today. host: ap headline, haitian group

in springfield, ohio filed a citizen criminal charges against trump and vance. what can you tell us about that? guest: this is obviously about donald trump and jd vance's claims that haitian migrants in springfield are eating pets. these have been unfounded claims. there is no evidence that's the case. it has spiraled into this really weeks long new cycle that began at the debate a few weeks ago. they have not let up. when they are doing and talking about this is they are arguing, we brought this up so that the media could pay attention to the issue of immigration, but they are showing really no signs of backing down from these comments . which has been interesting. you're seeing it affect springfield, ohio and also effect donald trump and jd vance directly with these charges.

whether or not the charges have merit i am not a lawyer so i won't speculate, but it is an added difficulty to an already difficult and extremely busy campaign cycle. host: i get that you are not a lawyer, but could this go to trial? could they be fined? guest: i have to anticipate that it could theoretically go to trial or they could be fined. it depends on how serious the charges are and how seriously the group that is suing them wants to take it. there could theoretically be a settlement. we don't know. the other question is, does this happen before the election? will it take several weeks to get through to the courts? a lot of the times court cases take a long time to get started. this could be pushed until post-election. it is notable. it is unnecessary, even thinking politically, i know that a lot of donald trump's aides will say

that this is an unnecessary headline they don't want to deal with right now. host: you are on next. caller: i am talking about, they are talking about the vice president is supposed to be the border czar. but joe biden actually assigned her to go to the source of the problem. the countries having these people come up here. to mediate with them. she has nothing to do with the border itself. that's totally different. the vice president serves at the pleasure of the president. so, this is what president biden told her to do. go to the countries to mediate with them. she is not a border czar. i think border czar came from fox news because czar has a russian ring to it.

host: joey garrison. guest: what the caller is referring to is early in biden's presidency, he assigned kamala harris to be the point person in terms of combating and addressing what they call the root causes of migration of the southern border. that entailed her meeting with various central american leaders. the leaders of guatemala, etc. when that assignment happened, there was some media who referred to her as being tapped as the border czar. the trump campaign seized on that title saying that this has been her responsibility and she let it get out of control. that's something that they have campaigned aggressively on against her. the caller is right. she was never formally given the title of border czar, but she

was someone delegating with central american nations on this issue. host: garrison in port st. lucie, florida. independent. caller: this is garrison, my first time on national tv. so, i am a little nervous. my question is, after we round these people up and stuff them into freight cars and boats and ship them to venezuela and mexico, what happens when they get to those countries and the countries don't take the people back? what is the next step after that? guest: that is another thing that i've talked to experts on. most of the experts say that in order to deport these people you actually have to have agreement with those countries you are deporting them to. that is going to be another challenge that the trump administration has to deal with. convincing some of these countries to take people and find ways to incentivize some of these countries to accept people we are deporting.

that is going to be another big challenge that a lot of experts anticipate. host: that is according to american law? that you have to have an agreement with that country? guest: yes. it depends on the situation. there are some folks who have migrated here from a secondary country. say, they are from haiti and then they came to chile and then they came here. there are different situations depending on where someone migrated from. so, it gets even more complicated. but generally, yes. when i talked to experts for a piece that i wrote this week, the overarching theme is there has to be some sort of agreement to send people. you cannot just fly a plane into a different country drop off a bunch of people. host: let's go to glen oak, maryland. caller: good morning. i would like to talk about the

border. if you are seeing what president biden has done with the executive order, things we have to declare. the executive order was put in place by biden, because former president donald trump told his republican colleagues not to support the bipartisan bill. look at who actually has the interest of the american people in mind? it is not donald trump. kamala harris is vice president, and you know she has a little she can do. she cannot step in front of joe biden. but this is her time to do what she wants to do. to actually put forward a vision. the topic of, what is she

supposed to be talking about more, is what she has done as executive vice president. donald trump has not done anything as a civil servant for this country. he came in as a businessman. harris has been doing stuff for the people before she got to the seat of the vice president. as president, she will do very good things for this country. in terms of border, she is going to make sure she has bipartisan support. we need democrat, we need independent and congress so we can pass meaningful bills that will actually secure the border. the border is the tough topic, but it has to be secured if everyone is on board. host: got it. guest: part of what the caller said there is that kamala harris has argued she can't just do

everything on the border she wants to do by executive order. she needs legislation to do things like hire more border patrol officers and add resources. he also reference executive action from president biden. after congress did not pass the bill, he took executive action that effectively prevents the influx of asylum-seekers when the border is overwhelmed and certain limits, like it is now. after migration at the border reached a high a year ago it has been going down over recent months. additionally, what kamala harris' visit is doing today, they have a new ad in arizona and battleground states where she is making the case to secure the border. she is going on offense on this issue. host: we know what could be causing the decline in the numbers crossing the border? caller: the administration --

guest: the administration would say that it's a result of the action taken early in the summer where they have the flow during periods like this where there is particularly high migration. so, that is one thing they would .2. host: when you say stopping migration, does that mean that they are no longer accepting claims of claims? guest: up to a certain point. of course republicans are pointing out the people can still get in >>. host: this is nate in las vegas. >> good morning. on the haitian issue the democrats for years have been flooding conservative counties with migrants like crazy and they turn trying to turn red states purple and eventually blue.

this is their strategy. that's what they are doing, that's the whole point. it's got nothing to do with eating pets and all that. as far as the border goes, i saw today earlier this morning the nevada, she is a plus seven. which is just not. i go out every day, every single day and i ask people i go up to them i'm in the casinos, who are you voting for. almost all them say trump. especially the young. the young people in this country will decide this election. especially the young black man. i say who you voting for. almost all of them say trump. trump is good to win this thing by a lot. people are starting to see a draw parallels to what happened with carter and reagan. carter was up by 10 points and all of a sudden once it got out there this person's identity politics and i understand, i see

why women and might see why black women might vote for her. i've got a put it out there. host: let's get a response. >> to your first point but haitian migrants there's been an argument we've heard from donald trump's campaign more recently as they faced criticism over the allegation paid their argument has been that in influx of migrants into small communities can affect these communities when they are not built to handle such a large group of people. so that's been arguments we've been hearing from donald trump's campaign or recently as they try to sort of shift this narrative and talk more about immigration. and in terms of the polling, as we said, depending on the pole,, layers to be up or down, i do think it's an extremely tight race and the pole should be taken with a grain of salt. i think the overall consensus is

it is a coin flip right now. that certainly my consensus when i look overall. host: linda in oklahoma city. democrat. caller: good morning everybody. i have two things i want to say. the first one i want to say is people need to go and check their voter registration. here in oklahoma city the governor said purged 450,000 people off the voter role registration. you need to go check and see are you still on the voter registration. my second thing i want to say is i'm so glad people are chiming in on this call from russia, you need to see it's a two hour document into tells you everything trump was doing from the white house to the governors

to the general public. people need to see this before they go vote because, i am sorry i'm getting choked up because i'm saying i've been online, i've been on tiktok and all over posting this and people know this document is real. his name is lev. he apologized to hunter biden for messing up his life. he said they paid him to lie on biden and biden's family. he actually hugged hunter biden and told him i am so sorry that i push this lie out. i'm saying please to c-span, it's two hours. host: got it linda.

>> you the third caller whose reference this, i need to check this out. sometime this week, but yes i will definitely try to watch that in the coming days. host: john in lake geneva, wisconsin, independent. caller: good morning, thanks for taking my call. i'm live in a swing state and three days ago, the associated press released an article saying the democratic stronghold in madison, wisconsin somehow mistakenly mailed out at least 2000 duplicate ballots. in the democratic city. and that to me just tells me how sometimes early mail-in voting isn't as good as everybody thinks it could be when estate

-- mistake like that could be made. they claim currently they have not received any of the duplicate ballots back. and, as far as the border goes in the border bill, that's a two way street. it's a red herring people like to discuss back-and-forth. there was a house bill that was put forward well over a year ago the chuck schumer failed to bring up in the senate. for a vote at all and now all the democrats do is say the border bill. i remember when obama's -- i think it was jeh johnson said more than 1000 people cross the border in a year it's a crisis and the border bill you're talking about keeps saying donald trump killed the bill. that much is going to allow five times that many people per month to cross the border before they did anything about 5000 a month. >> just wanted to show people

the ap article you're referencing from three days ago. wisconsin capital city stems up to 2000 duplicate absentee ballots leading to gop concerns, it quotes a city spokesperson this was a mistake, the clerk's office moves to rectify it as quickly as possible. joey either on that or the border. >> there is a process the state has where they have a verification of signature and other safeguards to ensure they wouldn't have duplicate ballots by the same person so i'm sure after this issue was identified they're going through protocols to make sure there won't be any sort of discrepancy there. >> i would just echo that and also the first sign of good news is of course the article being written which shows people are aware of the issue and that will most likely make it easier for

them to rectify it. host: to new york, republican, alex you are next. caller: good morning. i just wanted to clarify a couple of things about the so-called mass deportation we are talking about here. one of the callers asked what's can happen if we round all these people up in train cars, the references he's making, it's not an accurate statement here. and the countries don't accept the people. there are reciprocity agreements with countries that we deport people to their some countries that we don't have diplomatic relations such as vietnam. it would be like if i was in russia for example and i was deported. america can't not to take me back. the countries where you're a citizen of they have to accept their own citizens. as far as flying the planes in there, there are agreements for

charter flights that countries have with homeland security in order to repatriate these people. if the country start refusing these, there are steps the government can take such as going to the department of state and telling the department of state these people aren't -- these countries aren't taking their people back. we are going to stop issuing visas from that country so for example if haiti stops accepting their citizens back we will say we are no longer going to offer your country immigrant or nonimmigrant visas so there are steps the u.s. government can take -- host: let's get a response. >> i think you're sort of laying out exactly what they told me which is of course it is possible but it's not as simple as necessarily flying people back and landing them as you

said if the country's don't agree to take folks back there are steps the government can take but it is a process and it's not just flying people over to a country and dropping them off and that's where the incentives that i talked to migration experts that's what they talk about is incentives in order to make sure that these countries are going to take them. >> i haven't done firsthand reporting on this but we are talking about millions of people here. the massive undertaking, the logistics on dozens of people would be difficult. we are talking on such a grand scale nationwide, it would be a very big government under a second trump. host: but challenging just due to the sheer size. >> joey garrison on wednesday of the candidates talked about their economic proposals. what were the takeaways from those.

>> vice president harris had a speech in pittsburgh where she again leaned into what she's trying to push a sort of middle-class messaging on the economy to counter trump. she talked about the small business tax credit, tax credits for boosting affordable housing, she's really trying to track that with donald trump which she continued to henry him on supporting tax cuts for corporations and the wealthiest americans and so she later said economic plan and talked about it on msnbc, the first solo sit-down interview as a candidate of course it was with a friendly audience there and so they think they are starting to

reverse the numbers a little bit on the economy for what trump has gotten higher marks on who do you trust more when it comes to the economy. it's really by just a couple points now and that is the kind of long way from several months ago when trump was up 20, 25 points over joe biden so they have really gotten some momentum from her stance plan on the economy. host: your comments on the economy. >> donald trump his campaign of tried to make the economy one of their focuses and they see it as a winning issue even though kamala harris has been narrowed that gap compared to when donald trump was running against president biden. donald trump has talked about his tax cuts in the first administration. he has proposed a no tax on tips

but kamala harris is also echoed. he's talked about tariffs as a way to pay for some of these tax cuts and that's been a no heavily debated and the big thing i think is donald trump campaigns wants to focus on things like the economy, whether donald trump focuses on the economy, sometimes he does or doesn't. but he sees it as a real issue given the last four years and given inflation it something he talked about during every single campaign rally it talks about inflation, talks about the state of the economy. we hear that a lot from his team. >> into an issue but not to the degree it was. that's what we generally see in the majority of battleground states laying it out that way one thing we hear that harris did say in remarks she said i am a capitalist and that comes with

donald trump attacked her as comrade, and called her a. she set out to say i am for pragmatic ideas. i'm not an ideologue on the left when it comes to the economy i will pick the best idea regardless of what party comes from. those big point of her speech. really seeking the suburbs here you can trust on the economy. >> let's talk to nelson. >> good morning and thanks for taking my call. >> i would like to point out numerous terrorists have been known to come into the united states as a result of the open border policy of joe biden and kamala harris. i feel sometime after the election will probably have those big terrorists attack in the united states because they are already here thanks to that

policy. i'm hearing a lot of defense for, by your guests and i'm wondering if they are going to blame donald trump for the coming terrorist attacks in the not-too-distant future and is there already some kind of attempt to defend the harris biden team for such attacks? >> i think i push back on the premise of the comment in terms of any sort of defense, i think these are just sort of factual statements, this is what kamala harris is doing, this is what donald trump is doing when it comes to talking about immigration and their goals and this is what experts have said can be done and should be done with difficulty, etc..

and that sort of i guess my response to that. >> good morning. >> i just like to make a comment about wars raging in europe, the middle east and africa and no one's talking about the environmental impact of war, our planet was on life support and yet the play out -- the powers that be in all of the planet seem to think conflict will be settled through military means of war. and they told everone else do their part for the environment. yes we have to stop this and peace for the planet. i'd also like there to be a study for how much carbon emissions in the space program emit. all these billionaires going to space, commercial space. in the planet is on life support. and no one's talking about it. thank you.

>> you are right, i have rarely heard the issue of environmental impact discussed and i think that's the correct observation. caller: i'd like to push back on your woman guest there. she claims we can send these people back but they can send them here? does that make any sense? if they can send them here and we have laws that say they can't come here unless they get through the proper immigrant process, then how is it that we can send these people back? i can see why c-span can have a conservative person on here along with the liberals. we have two liberals on here. >> just to correct you there i never said that they could not send people back. what i said is it is a process for them to go back. the u.s. has strict laws in

terms of both bringing people here and bringing people out that's why we have immigration a top issue this campaign cycle, both campaigns of talked about it. just because people are coming in here does not mean they are coming here the right way or legally and does not mean the u.s. plans to deport people in an illegal way. so yes there are many ways for the u.s. to deport people, but they have to do it through the process. host: chris in south carolina, independent, good morning. >> can you hear me? >> my problem is i think most of the people in america are good but there's a tribal group for trump. and the bible says those that beget people are people. kamala harris has a sellout crowd at madison wisconsin. she can win the state by a

landslide. i don't know where these people get this thing about trump, he was the border king. when putin invaded ukraine, he didn't do it. we need leadership in america. the coach can tell the tablet -- cal -- dallas cowboys coach what to do. you lose the game because don't score a touchdown. host: joey garrison this concept of why didn't she do it four years ago. >> it was an interesting football analogy. discussing earlier that's what trump -- the trump campaign is trying to argue that she had the chance for the border and she refused to do it but this a few things going on right now are kamala harris is trying to run as a change candidate. she saying it's time to turn the page and move off.

that's an adjusting thing to do when you're the incumbent vice president. she's been able to kinda flip the script on this because trump's been around for a decade and dominated policy so you might not be in the white house right now but they're so much out there she's been able to make that argument with the trump campaign is trying to do and will try to do for the remaining 39 days of the selection and say this person is in the office right now. and she's not getting the job done. >> regarding abortion, vice president harris told wisconsin public radio she would support ending the filibuster to bring back roe v. wade. what's been the response? >> she did say she did say she would like to do that, that would illuminate the need to get 60 votes in the senate in order to codify roe v. wade, but it is something that lacks the votes right to do it.

she has enormous pushback from folks like joe manchin who was of course said he would not divorce or he's the outgoing democrat senator of west virginia. mcconnell the republican leader also pushed back against it. on the other hand harris was applauded by the left for this issue and showed a mixed reaction based on what camp you are in. host: shelby, the former president trump's outreach to female voters and how big is the gender gap with his support with women? >> is pretty large prey he has a significant support among males and kamala harris has significant support among females and donald trump is been trying to reach out to female voters and say that under him i think it is speech the other week under him you won't have to worry about things like abortion and his argument has been that

one of the big things all voters including female voters are concerned about is the economy, how do i feed my family. how much of my getting paid for at my job at work and so that sort of been his focus and we've seen democrats historically over the past few years have really focused on the abortion issue it something republicans have not wanted to focus on as much. democrat see it as a winning issue. republicans see the economy as a winning issue. >> stephen maitland, florida. good morning. >> good morning. i'm good at touch and a couple of issues real quick because i know only have a certain amount of time. on the abortion issue i cannot relate to anybody male or female , the court never should have handled the abortion. instead of been the states. nine justice is not elected by the people have no right to tell anybody to have an abortion or not. the second thing real quick is the democrats, i'm a big time

conservative and i will listen to both points of view. i have never heard democrats -- they will say something but they will never give the amount they're supposed to give and ever talk about that issue. it's horrible. another issue, the press really doesn't impress me anymore. go to pat, left or right because it's up to their opinion and no one should sit there and challenge president trump on this, the border is disgusting and if anyone sees a different way, god bless them. we didn't have fentanyl or crime , i'm a businessman paid i own a couple of businesses. this is really sick. the economy was never fired up like this. i understand everyone wants to say this and that. the way she talks, i don't know where she's coming from. it's the biggest word salad in

the world. it doesn't make sense. i watch the left throwing life preservers later to try to get her going in the conversation. i just don't see it. usa today can sit there and say whatever they want. the lady that sitting at the table can say whatever they want. i don't care if it's left or right wing or left wing. it means nothing. as a common person you can see the difference. i never heard until president obama, i never heard of all these groups until the democrats came to power. host: let's take joe. >> the caller laid out quite a bit there on a number of issues. we were talking about the huge gender gap in this race. there was a poll nationally usa today had a couple weeks ago 17 --, hers leads women by 17 points read this was in pennsylvania among women, 17

points advantage were trump has a 12 point advantage among male voters. that's a huge gender gap. and i think especially compared to previous elections. what i hope the trump campaign is trying to do to make up for that going after a younger male base. they think there's a lot of folks, a lot of people who don't normally pay attention to politics among that crowd, something to watch this election. host: i believe he's going to a football game. he's on a lot of double wea or ufc events. so that's been a big strategy from the trump. >> the vp nominee for harris will be at the big house in michigan for minnesota michigan. so both campaigns going to college football. host: you did mention the vice president, we are going to be covering that debate coming up on tuesday night. he kicks off at 9:00 p.m.

will -- the preview started 8 p.m. here on c-span so be sure to watch on c-span on c-span now and online at c-span.org. what will you be looking at at that debate. >> i think this will be really interesting because jd vance is very intelligent, very quick on his feet. he likes talking to the press. he's been -- she's done over 115 press conferences and interviews becoming vice president for nominee so he sort of well-versed in handling the tough questions. tim walz has been pretrade is extremely friendly, i don't think either of them are going to -- i don't think it will be the same debate as we saw between kamala harris and donald trump i think it's going to be a much more sort of even keel debate between the two of them. i'm curious how much substance

there is because particularly with jd vance we heard him talk a lot about specific policy positions that donald trump talked about necessarily gone into detail on. so i'm curious how much policy is going to be discussed during the debate between the two of them. >> talked to kathy. albuquerque new mexico. good morning. >> i don't know why she was picking on the two reporters. they seem very knowledgeable about the issues. i think trump gets a lot of credit for his economics and the numbers you indicate that. i think it's a bunch of bs. he talks about other things, he talks what is tariff war, he talks about in such a general way i do know if anyone members the last time he did that. he spoke nonsense and i just think harris is not specific on so many things that i think she's doing a better job than he is if you want to go head-to-head with that.

and i just want to say like you said i think he gets a lot more credit and doesn't talk about it in the way, he doesn't pinpoint issues. he just talks about them in broad terms. i wonder what you think about why harris -- she's not specific on everything but i think she's doing a lot better than trump is. >> one interesting thing you brought up was the trump proposal tariffs they think of gotten traction on is harris during the debate and throughout her speeches or economic speech in pittsburgh was effectively like across-the-board tariff for americans. called not a very serious proposal to address economic concerns right now. some of the harris campaign think they flipped on and actually gaining advantage for that proposal the trump is put on. >> i just want to add to the

question of why hasn't she gotten this much traction on something like the economy i do think it is still the fact that she is the incumbent, she's been in office for the past four years so despite her having success on running as a change candidate there is a faction of the country that says wait a minute, she's been in office for four years and that's the big argument donald trump. >> even though it's crept back down close to normal people still feel like they're paying more for groceries and of hung that on the administration. >> and shelby talcott semaphore politics reporter thank you both so much for being here. coming up, more of your phone calls on open forum. we will get an update on the latest developments in the federal indictment of new york city mayor eric adams from craig

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p.m. the vice president tkepblgs debate summit -- simultaneous on c-span. your unfiltered view of politics. >> "washington journal" continues. host: welcome back to "washington journal." we are in open forum until the end of the program at 10 a.m. eastern. the numbers are on your screen. and we will get to your calls shortly. first we are going to talk to representative bill foster. he's a democrat from illinois. and he's on the financial services committee and also the task force on artificial intelligence. wrepive foster -- representative foster, welcome to the program. i understand you are the only ph.d. physicist in congress. tell us about your background. guest: i plead guilty to that, for 25 years before entering congress i was a particle physicist. we were smashing protons and anti-protons together to make

particles that have not been around since the big bang. for the last 10 years i was designing the giant particle accelerator. if you fly into o'hare from the west, there are two reubgs on the ground, one is one i invented. before that, it was a business. i start the on theater lighting when i was 19 my little brother and i started a company that now makes the majority of all theater lighting equipment in the united states. and so i'm just -- some theater lighting to high energy particle physical its to -- physics to the u.s. congress. host: now you are on the bipartisan task force on artificial intelligence. which is not nearly as complicated as particle physics. tell us what you are focused on in that task force and what are you working on. .a. guest: i have been concerned about artificial against for more than a decade and sounding the alarm on it inside congress. actually back in the 1990's i

first programmed neural networks to try to analyze particle interactions. we ran into the same problems we are today. the explainability problem. if we publish a paper that said we discovered a suba a atoeplic article because our neural network says so. how do you read that? in the last session of congress i was chairing the financial services committee task force on artificial against and we ran into the problem of well, if your mortgage is turned down because our neural network said so, that's an unacceptable answer. trying to thread through these problems i think is going to be with us for the rest of our lives. host: one issue concerning politics for sure is deep fakes. can you tell us -- explain quickly what it is, and what the issue is. guest: deep fakes are the ability of what's called generative a.i. to make something that sounds and looks just like a person. the first successes of this were

simply sounding like a person. they are very interesting lawsuits going on in hollywood and celebrities about audio deep fakes and songwriters and performers. there are also huge problem with video deep fakes which i think most people are familiar with. these increasingly realistic video vick taours of videos of real human beings saying things that they did not say. this is a huge threat to politics. it's also a huge problem for financial services. earlier this year there was a $25 million heist that took place when the financial officer of a company went on to a company's zone. they discuss add project they might or might not get involved in. they decided, yes, let's do this. he was ordered to transfer $25 million to a certain account. and that person did not realize that everyone on that zoom was a deep fake impersonation of his

co-workers of his boss. so on. these were sophisticated people. host: speaking of deep fake calls, this is nbc news reporting senator ben cardin says he was targeted by an apparent deep fake call, somebody pretending to be the ukrainian -- the former ukrainian foreign affairs minister. guest: it's only a matter of time before congress gets targeted by these -- i think every one of us sees in our spam filter increasingly competent imitations of people. i know that from time to time i have seen in my spam filter emails from people that clearly have researched my children and are making emails that if i'm not careful i could mistake for my children's and trying to get me to click on something i should not. and that is -- that's a problem that's not going to go away until we provide a real means of defense for an average person to

prevent them from being impersonated by artificial intelligence. host: congressman, let's talk about means of defense. axios says at least 26 states have passed or are considering bills to regulate the use of generative a.i. what kind of regulation is possible? what is the u.s. congress looking at. guest: two approaches. when people learn about deep fakes their first instinct is well let's find some magic software that will be able to tell the difference between deep fake and authentic content. my guess is that will be a losing game f you look at the rate of progress in how realistic these things look. the other side of the coin, something congress can actually do, is to provide people with the means of proving that they are who they say they are. and not a deep fake impersonation of themselves. what should have happened in the case of that financial services scam or the zoom call to senator

cardin? what should have happened when you look into the zoom you should present your digital diver's license to authenticate you who you are. that's the tool that's at hand. dozens of states are issuing electronic mobile i.d.'s or digital driver's licenses. that allow you to present your real i.d. driver's license in an online environment. and that is the crucial element that we have to adopt federally. it's a huge problem for the federal government because of all the money that the taxpayer loses every year. the estimates are above $100 billion was stolen from taxpayers through identity fraud during covid. and in just the normal course of business tens of billions of dollars are stolen from banks, stores, other financial companies through impersonation. it's only going to get worse with the advances in a.i. host: i wonder if you feel that your colleagues in -- not just the house but the senate side

understand artificial intelligence enough to be able to regulate it wisely. guest: i think the crucial first step that we have to do is, as i mentioned, the mobile i.d. and the secure digital i.d. for online use. there is a bill that's actually -- we came within one member of congress in the last session of congress to get it enacted into law to simply get the federal government to adopt standard means of authenticating yourself to the federal government so you won't have people claiming your i.r.s. refunds. claiming your unemployment benefits. which is a huge problem. there were tens of billions of dollars stolen from the state unemployment insurance by people with running identity scams that did not happen in countries that have a secured digital i.d. means of proving you are who you say you are in an online environment. other countries are moving fast in this area. and india essentially everyone in india has the ability to do

this. the european union within the next year or year and a half every citizen of the e.u. is going to be able to prove online that they are a legally traceable citizen of the e.u. this takes advantage of the fact that modern cell phone is pretty good at recognizing its owner. when you combine that with government issued credential like a real i.d. or passport, that you have a pretty powerful way of proving that you are who you say you are. host: congressman, were aren't these bills passing? what you mentioned, there's also senate bills. what's the holdup? guest: i think there is a worry among sort of the political class that any time you present something that sort of smells like a national i.d. card that people are very afraid of that. typically the aclu wing will jump down your throat from the left. and the red dawn people will jump your throat from the right if you understand what i'm saying. and so both of those groups have

sort of stood back on this issue. among libertarians, generally, i think there is a recognition that the real threat to privacy is not so much from these big databases because everyone knows they are out there, but from having someone impersonate you online. and the aclu did a very thoughtful report on mobile i.d., digital driver's license. where it started with the appropriate warnings about, we don't want to end up in the surveillance state where are you asked to turn these over every time you do anything in your life. but they concluded if you read the last couple sentences in it that if this is done right it would be good for privacy and good for equity. because the people who benefit most are the people who can't prove they are who they say they are right now by presenting a credit card or some other thing that's recognized in commerce. host: i want to ask you about president zelenskyy's visit, he met with president biden, vice

president harris, he's planning on meeting former president trump later today. do you support the additional $8 billion in military assistance to ukraine that president biden announced yesterday? guest: absolutely. one of the things we are working on in a bipartisan basis is to try to get the $300 billion of frozen russian funds that were frozen at the start of this war to get them into the hands of the ukrainians, the citizens and government of ukraine, to start rebuilding that country and to help them triumph in the war. this is something on financial services i know that we are working very hard on. making the u.s. able to do that without necessarily costing the taxpayer anything. host: congressman, how do you define triumph in the war? what does that mean? does that mean ukraine gets all the land back that russia's taken from them? guest: to my mind triumph is to

honor the word and commitment in the buddha pest memorandum. it's not oven talked about, but as a physicist i pay a lot of attention to the fact that ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons at the end of the cold war in return for a guarantee from the free democracies of the world and russia that its territorial integrity would be respected. and when that understanding is violated, it is a threat against the spread of nuclear weapons. what is the lesson that a proliferation should think about when they see u crane gives up its nuclear weapons that it believed it no longer needed and loses territory from an aggressor? that's a lesson we cannot teach the rest of the world. maybe i feel especially strongly about this because i, as a physicist, i share some responsibility for unleashing nuclear weapons on the world. but this is a big deal to me. we should not forget that we owe

this to ukraine. host: representative bill foster, democrat of illinois. thank you so much for joining us today, sir. guest: thank you. host: we are in open forum. we'll take your calls. just a quick update on the storm. "new york times," atlanta facing flood emergency as helene leaves millions without power. the powerful category 4 hurricane came ashore on florida's gulf coast and quickly moved into georgia where it dumped record amounts of rain. at least four people were killed across the southeast. want to know what's on your mind this morning. we'll start with david, mount vernon, new york, democrat. are you on open forum. caller: good morning. i would like to say and i would ask everybody in this country to listen to this, forget your party affiliation, economic status, religious background and just be an american for five

minutes. by saying this i'm saying we enjoy our freedoms because of our right to vote. our right to vote is what makes us americans. donald trump said that if you vote for him you will never have to vote again. he is going to -- for me that means he's going to take away our right to vote if he is elected. anyone who is a true american, enjoy the freedoms that we have, you cannot vote for this man. if you do, we will lose our democracy. i need people to hear me and hear me clearly. the only vote he should get is one vote and that's the one that he casts for himself. thank you very much. host: rick, republican, in burns, tennessee, you're next. caller: hi, this is an academic

question. why would people want to be a democrat when they were the slave owners? they started the k.k.k. jim crow laws. housing. and a bunch of other things. if somebody could answer that for me, i would appreciate it. you guys are doing a great job. thank you. host: cynthia, sherman oaks, california, independent. hi. caller: good morning. first of all thank you so much for having me. i would like to answer the man's question who said why would you be a democrat versus a republican on slavery and things of that sort. because things changed. because the republican party was the first -- was the party that freed the slaves, however, they also changed their whole entire trajectory toward jim crow and

all the others. henry bedford forest did invent -- found the k.k.k., but a lot of that did change with the republican party changing. the one thing i wanted to say was this. when we look at economics and the credit that we are giving donald trump for a great economy, people forget he inherited the economy from the obama-biden administration. it was one of the best economies that they had with the lowest unemployment rate. the last two years was all donald trump. and i realize that there was a pandemic. people have to also understand that there was a pandemic during the obama administration, and obama put in safeguards that thy

got rid are of when he got into office when he was doing -- undoing everything that obama did. that's my comment. thank you very much. have a good day. host: john in temple hills, maryland, independent. hi. caller: how are you today. first of all i would like to say thank you for c-span. you guys do a great job. i'm going to say this and it's going to catch people by surprise when i say this. thank god for donald trump. now, here's why i say that. donald trump has made america and the world open their eyes and see how an individual can take advantage of the system, skirt the system, and still get away with it. we have -- has tested every branch of our government to the fullest extent. so now we see what we have to do in our government to correct things to correct policies, to make it so that another president can never do what he has done. that's one. i would like to ask the american

people a question. two questions, i'll get off the air. how many americans out there, by show of hands, i can't see you, but a show of hands have a boss? how many times have you gone up to your boss and made a recommendation, your boss decided not to use your recommendation? kamala harris was the vice president. she was not the president. when donald trump stands up there and says kamala harris did this, why didn't she do this or that, she was not the president. she is now running for the president of the united states of america. by her doing that, now she -- she's still vice president. so there are certain things she can't say or do as a nominee that she could do as an actual president. her going down to the border now and doing certain things is her preparing herself for the role of president. thank you all so much for listening to my rant. host: this is cecil in alexandria, virginia, democrat, good morning. caller: good morning.

one of the callers indicate donald trump was indictment. he says his vote would probably count. he wouldn't get any vote in that instance. the lady mentioned about the switch with the people in the republican party back during abraham lincoln. now through nixon era. switch to the republican party. they were democrats back then. that's never going to be in the media. you're never going to tell the clarity. former president as the lady also said, obama -- donald trump inherited former president obama's economy. then came covid. and most people stayed home. this weren't buying things. as a result are of them not buying, the demand low. therefore the prices went down low. and then of course now with the flood of money and things of

that sort, it created inflation along with companies gouging the public, reducing the packaging, making it smaller, and raising their prices as well. regarding every restaurant with the immigrants anti-border happened in many areas of the world. we don't talk in the media again it's not going to tell the truth about the united states policies in those governments creating ill among those foreign communities. causing government, flooding it with weapons. things of that sort. that also should be brought to light. and then finally, with the police and law enforcement agents, there's police that can make crime and you are talking about giving them total immunity? it's an outrage. many african-americans when they were trying to escape the bondage of slavery, and they brought them back to their

masters. many have dominion in those same neighborhoods today, many of the law enforcement mistreatment them. if you are are talking about defunding police, i would defund them, too, if they were assaulting my family. host: richard in kansas, republican. how do you pronounce that? caller: oletha. host: go ahead. caller: my comment -- listen to these callers, god, i can't believe how ignorant the american people are. there is a big difference in being truthful and being honest. and i'm going you had the two reporters on there. i think somebody called in and said why don't you ever put a curve on there. well, it's pretty hard to find a conservative journalist. that's why you don't have a lot of them on there. they are hard to find. the last thing that the gentleman said on that was that

inflation is coming down. no, that is not honest. inflation is anywhere from 10% to 40%, depending on what the product is. those prices are there. they are not coming down. what's coming down is the rate of what those things are increasing. and we have come down -- host: isn't that the definition of inflation, richard? it's the rate of increase. caller: correct. that's what's coming down. is the rate of increase. host: so inflation is coming down. no? caller: the rate of increase is coming down. if i pay $20 -- pay $10 for something and it went up to $20 and it's going up at 10%. that means it's going up $2. if that comes down to 5%, that means it's going up at $1. it still isn't down to $10 that i was originally paying.

inflation is here. it's not going anywhere. the policies have to change. and that's what everyone is saying about harris and biden. they have the same policies. it's not the personalities that are the problem. it's the policies. you can't -- how can you bring millions, tens of millions of people into a country that have no skills, where are they going to get jobs? what are they going to do? we have people here that have no skills that we need to put to work. i'll tell you who they are not importing. they are not importing mimi. they are not importing these white collar people. they are not importing people that are doctors and lawyers and stuff like that. they are importing people that have no education and no skills. that would be fine except for the problem we are a welfare country. for those people to survive, you

have to take from the natural born citizens. you have to -- to give to the immigrants. you have to take from the naturals to give to the immigrants. look at the jobs. who is getting 60%, 65% of the jobs? not native born people. people coming here. also who -- what jobs are those? government. 70% of the jobs that were created are for government. not for the private industry. government doesn't make money. government takes money. host: you are saying -- richard, you are saying 70% of new jobs are government jobs in the public sector? guest: that's what they said. host: where did you get that? guest: on the reports on cnn, msnbc, fox even. host: ok. we'll try to find that. tim, glassville, arkansas,

independent. good morning. caller: hi, gasville. host: sorry. guest: the previous caller i do agree with. and, yes, it is happening. people, it's unfortunate, i think they are going to believe what they hear in the media and use their hate for trump not to bother looking at the other candidate. will c-span do any stories at all about kamala and tim walz? are you going to run the sherri people story when california schools -- share a people story when the california schools get paid by the student kamala gets tough on parents. this people's daughter had

sickle cell armenia in the hospital. when they came to arrest, sheri, they didn't care that the daughter was in the hospital and that the school system knew that she was in the hospital. they arrested the woman. they made her perfect walk in front -- p*erp walk in front of her -- perp walk in front of her neighbors. she had to defend herself when they had done everything right. they informed the school. how about a story about tim walz? they make fun of him putting tamm ponce in the boy's bathroom. why don't you look at the story where he ordered his national guard during the covid lockdowns to shoot at people who weren't inside their house. there is a video of people on their porch. you live in those city where you got a big old porch, surrounded by brick columns, up off the ground. when his national guard acting

like thugs marched through the city, they would scream at people to get in your house, get in your house. when they didn't, they shot them with paint balls. the story sits there on the tube. there is a lot of stuff that you can talk about these two people. joe biden himself said that kamala was right there with him. and did -- she could do everything he did. now you are trying to push the kamala is a change candidate. kamala was the last person in the room when the afghan withdrawal, remember that? nobody got fired for that. kamala's helped with this inflation. and as soon as biden shut down all the oil production and new leases, that's when everything went up. everything is based on fuel and energy. obama's terrible economy, he said what? i ain't got no magic wand. host: tim, sorry. i just want to go back to

something that you said about the national guard shooting paint. i did find this on fox. this is live now, fox.com. it says that some on social media falsely claimed the videos show officers enforcing walz's covid-19 protocols by shooting paint canisters at residents. it doesn't seem that what you had been looking at was actually true. maureen in brooklyn, new york, democrat. good morning. maureen, are you there? brooklyn? no. anthony in los angeles, california, republican. caller: hi. nice to speak with you all. i'm just so confused about how people are so uneducated. if donald trump gets in office our constitution and all of our things, he can't stay in office forever. people think he's going to get in there and never get out.

that's ridiculous. and another thing is that the democratic party has not changed. their policy keep people down, especially colored people. i don't understand how anybody can vote for the democratic party. all their policies keep us down. opening the border, who do you think that hurts more? the poverty black people because we are less at it already. that's all i have. host: all right. we are going to continue to take your calls but we are going to pause. if you are on the line please do hold on. don't hang up. because we are going to talk craig mccarthy. he's city hall bureau chief for the "new york post." welcome to the program. guest: thanks for having me. host: can you just give us an update on the situation with mayor eric adams. guest: minutes ago he turned himself into federal authorities in lower manhattan. the mayor is facing an assorted

indictment. five count indictment of bribery and wire fraud. in relation to foreign donations into his 2021 campaign. as well as some of the time that he had in burrough hall as brooklyn burrough president. host: this is a federal indictment. not state. can you explain the significance of that. guest: this is the first sitting mayor of new york that has ever been charged criminally. this is coming as you said federally. not from manhattan d.c. or bronx or brooklyn. this is coming from the u.s. attorney in the southern district. one of the more powerful and lauded districts in the country. where the u.s. toefrpb's office is. host: did this come as a surprise? apparently the investigation has been going on for quite some time. guest: yes. "the new york times" reported this investigation started under the previous administration in

2021. none of us had any idea about it until november of last year. the mayor, eric adams, was actually en route and he just landed in washington, d.c. he was supposed to meet with president biden. and he abruptly turned around. they raised alarm flags with everybody in new york city politics trying to dig into what happened. that's when we found out his top campaign financier, she had her house raided by the f.b.i. two weeks later we learn two other people sank a turkish airline executive who moved on to the transition team. as well as rina, who started as a volunteer in the brooklyn burrow -- burrough president's afps and international affairs team in the mayor's office. both were raided in the same day. host: mayor adams has maintained his incense. do we know anything-different

know sense. do we know thinking about what his defense is going to be? guest: this may have been before he knew the allegations. the may thrust of his defense wednesday night before they were notified this was being unsealed was that this is retribution for him being a vocal opponent of the current white house administration and not acting enough in the asylum seeker crisis. that shifted slightly yesterday. yesterday when his high powered attorney, hoe has revise and extend people like elon musk, jay-z, he moved on to this position that they have evidence to show that mayor eric adams was telling people not to act improperly. he's specifically citing text message threads where he says we cannot accept foreign donations at any of these fundraising events. this also involves the quid pro quo of taking these donations and possibly doing things in the city to help out these foreign nationals. one of the main examples that williams has provided is helping

green light the turkish consulate in lower manhattan. there are a lot of scores and issues raised about the safety from the fire department about the building. but it got fast tracked anyway. what williams is alleging it was a quid pro quo they asked him to step in. his attorneys said no, we didn't put pressure. we did not hit on any local official. if somebody came to us and asked for help, we tried to connect them with the proper people, authorities, what have you. and help them get it opened. host: are prosecutors alleging that mayor adams knew what he was doing was against the law? guest: yeah. they have made the case in the indictment he was fully aware of everything going on. one place trying to -- they allege he tried to create a big paper trail for airline tickets that he did not pay for. host: representative ocasio-cortez has called for him to resign. what other response has there

been among lawmakers both on the state and local level? guest: it's been a very luke warm response so far. after the a.o.c. calling him out for this. noted this is before the indictment she called him out. there's been a very low call for him to resign. there's been pressure from -- there was chants at his press conference yesterday. but at this point the party in new york state has not called on him to resign. hakeem jeffries, chuck skaoupl schumer, or the governor kathy hochul. everybody said let this play out. this could change in the week or days. host: he said he will not resign. what are the options? is it possible to remove him from office? guest: there is only two ways that he can be removed from office. governor kathy hochul could

effectively remove him from office. there is a little bit -- this has never been done before. it would be historic by the governor. they are actually currently scrambling to figure out how that process works. we had reported on that yesterday that there was research being done at state levels to figure out how that would work. how the language in the state law, it's slightly vague in the sense of when the governor could actually initiate this power. there is also another way that they could do it. they could do it via mission which is made up of some top level local officials, the comptroller, the speaker of the city council, and a few others. and they would have to vote and remove him from office. host: the arraignment is scheduled for noon today. are reporters allowed? is it going to be opened? guest: yes. reporters will be there. they will be there. he just arrived in court about 9:00 this morning.

the arraignment is set today for 12 where he is expected to plead not guilty. a short appearance. then he will leave. host: what's the timeline? does this go to trial? what happens next? guest: i would assume it would go to trial of the the next step we have right now is next wednesday is his next court appearance. after that we really don't know. he's vowed to fight this. i can't imagine anything coming out at this moment of any plea deal or anything like that. he has asserted he's innocent and plans to fight these charges. host: craig mccarthy city hall bureau chief for the "new york post." you can see his reporting at ny post.com. we'll go back to your calls for open forum until 10:00 at the end of the program. and this is cheryl, california, independent. good morning. caller: good morning. hi. did that man a craig mccarthy just say it was when eric adams got off the plane to discuss the

migrant crisis in washington that he found that the charges came down for him? host: yes. is that what you wanted to talk about? caller: what i wanted to call about was the discussion that was happening between callers about a man called and said why would people vote democrat, since the democratic party was historically the party of slavery and so many laws that were during the civil rights era. against black people. the lady that called after him she said, and quite correctly, too, that things change. things changed. things have changed. but the question i have in my mind, and i have been thinking about is, how things changed

again. things change and things change in different directions. people and events change places and they change history. host: how do you think things have changed recently? caller: well, for the black community there is a lot of opposite of progress taking place. it's not just the black community but also for americans in general. and a lot of the negative changes that happened have been happening under administrations that were led by both republicans and, and definitely under democrats, too. during the pandemic i think the last three years, post pandemic so many people lost their jobs. so many people became impoverished. the black community especially.

homeless people in california are 40% black. we are not nearly 40% the population in california. at the same time there is -- the crisis is real. it's not just a case like what was brought up at the debate where it was kind of, oh, extreme case was discussed about the cats and dogs. this is real in terms of the jobs anti-people who are working class people, not just working class but people who were white collar jobs. host: all right. let's go to aldie, virginia, democrat. rick. hello. caller: hi. i have one suggestion for both republicans, democrats, anybody who wants to know about donald trump and kamala harris. and donald trump having roy as

his mentor. go to pbs.com and look up that. i was curious as to -- it's my first time voting, right. i wanted to know a little bit more about both candidates. i was very, very, very, very intrigued when i saw what it said about donald trump. for the people who are still wanting to know more, go to pbs.com and look there and you'll get the information that you are looking for both candidates. and make a choice from there. thank you. host: here's jerry in new jersey, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. i just have a couple of questions. i looked it up online and the government has spent $451 billion on illegals? that to me -- and $56 billion for ukraine. and then the $200 billion the

gentleman was talking about on your show just a little while ago. so that's over $707 billion. we haven't spent a time of that on u.s. citizens. isn't that their tax money? and i was also wondering now over 400 terrorists have been caught at the border on the watch list, the terrorist watch list, and how many got aways are there? my other concern is 24r's -- there's now 325,000 children in the united states that no one can tell us where they are. i just think that we have had a lot of problems in the last four years. and since there were no wars under trump, i'm worried with the he can whraeugs -- with the

escalation in israel and the ukraine war and i just saw on the news where now russian planes have flown -- russian fighter jets, five times, have flown over alaska. there are also military in the middle east that are getting shot at. and i'm afraid there is going to be another war. my main concern would be the 325,000 children that nobody knows where they are now since the border's been wide open. can you just clarify that? host: all right, skwrerry. this is -- jerry. this is an update just now from "the washington post" that prime minister netanyahu to address u.n. as nations call for israel-hezbollah cease-fire. you can see it right now on the screen. he's addressing the u.n.

we will have all of that on our website, c-span.org, tpud' like to look at that later -- if you'd like to look at that later. here's trisha, vista, california, good morning. caller: good morning. how are you. host: good. caller: good. sounds like a great program. i just want to simplify things. when you look at everything and how people are speaking. i used to go ahead and read the constitution -- memorize the constitution in school. now it's like we are dealing with good versus evil. with this good versus evil you look back and you say, god and our country, ok, where did it all go? we are taking god out. we know that. we all know that. and we are making it very, very complicated, causing strife and

division. and i'm an independent, like i said, i never hear anything about god and country from the democrats. and it makes your heartbreak. so i would just hope that everybody would stand back and get their foundation in order first. and vote from your heart. not from your -- not from the material world. i appreciate you having me on. thank you. host: all right. i just want to go back to a previous caller about russian jets flying over alaska. this is alaska public media. it says this, that chinese and russian aircraft joined for first time in sortie near alaska. it says that u.s. military experts say a formation of four

russian and chinese bombers that flew through international airspace off alaska last month's signals china's growing interest in the arctic and russia's intention to support its alley's operations in the region -- alley operation. through international airspace off alaska was unprecedented. a fact that defense secretary lloyd austin confirmed in a news briefing he held the day after the incident. can you see that at alaska public.org. this is hattie, houston, line for democrats. good morning. hi, hattie. caller: can you hear me? host: yep. caller: ok. what i'm calling is about i have been hearing this -- i listen to you all the time. i just do not understand why if they would look at everything that has been happening, every

time the republican take over we are in red. and then when the democrat take over we in black. and now -- i don't understand this. and i don't understand why one person can get away with -- this man in new york, i'm not agreeing with that. but he's supposed to be -- he need to resign. but trump can be the president of the united states and got 34 felonies on there. this is not right here. i am a democrat, but i'm a christian, too. i will not -- i do not like abortion and stuff like that. but, if everybody say, well, hurt the mom or hurt the child, that we seen this with there

being rape. i mean -- don't have -- they don't want to do that. but then more people getting killed with guns and they don't even vote for them to make sure that they have a background check, make sure they don't do that. and they killing 19, 14 kids. it's just so cruel. and trump, if you are are a democrat, i have been hearing him talking about that. you can't get away with nothing. but if you are a republican, you can. this is just not right the way things been going here. host: all right, hattie. and we mentioned before that ukrainian president zelenskyy is in new york. he's scheduled to meet with former president trump later this morning in new york. and we are watching that. if we see the arrival of either of those two we will show that to you if it happens before the end of the program.

got about 10 minutes left. here's ron in hunt valley, maryland. independent. caller: good morning, c-span. a few callers ago your caller actually mentioned good versus evil. and the way i'm looking at it really is ignorance versus common sense when you are putting nonnative americans over native americans. to me that's really ignorant. one of the things i do as a psychiatrist, i take care of elderly patients. a lot of them are living off of $40 a month. $80 a month. and yet of course we have your nonnative illegal immigrants who are pretty much being handed everything they want, including our jobs. two callers ago another caller mentioned that 70% of the jobs that we are generating are are going to nonnatives. i don't know about you all, but if you drive within a one or two mile radius you can seer where

he's not lying. that's definitely obvious. there is a youtubeer called kirk kahn's, this is not a plug for him. but he travels all over south america and central america. one of the plays he went was venezuela, a big city there. and he went to their ghetto. where is everyone? and a person told him, look, everyone went to the united states. just yesterday i read how crime is down. and most of your south american countries and central american countries. if you live here, which most of us do, in our country, we see where these criminals have gone to. and that's here. in your cities and neighborhoods and communities. and here in baltimore what i don't understand is why isn't black america screaming out for help. the first place in which these illegal immigrants are being placed is in their communities. they are taking our jobs.

i'm going to say our jobs because i'm a black american. i see it in every service industry. i see it in construction and road service. you name it they are being hired and we are not. it's not just black americans, but it's white americans, too. host: all right, ron. let's go to ollie in rochester, michigan, republican. caller: thank you for talking my call. so i would just like to say that the democrats are always screaming about donald trump being a threat to democracy. i think i heard one caller say trump said, you only have to vote for me and you'll never have to vote again. what the democrats are doing with this massive illegal immigration is putting in place a permanent voting class for them. so that -- there will never be another fair election if these

immigrants -- the people they are letting in. largely might be law-abiding people, but we know there are criminals coming over. the democrats care so little about our own citizens that these poor young women who have been murdered and raped, they don't care. and the missing children, they don't care as long as they can remain in power. and that's how power hungry they are. and it's so upsetting to me. also i would like to say that i noticed that conservative callers are being fact checked where the democratic callers are not of the the one woman said -- are not. the one woman said obama had a pandemic there. was no pandemic when obama was in office. thank you for taking my call. host: gregory in bellville, new

jersey, democrat. caller: yes. i have a few comments. first of all, as far as the election go, we don't want to talk about we got to vote for the less of the two evils. host: you still there? caller: yeah. host: go ahead. caller: and the point is that that's the whole problem. donald trump, all the viciousness that comes and racist attitude, and we don't want to talk about that. we talk about who is assassination like he's a god. he brought that on himself with his vicious and racist remarks. who's been trying to kill him is white folks. white folks been trying to kill him. and white folks are scared they

are losing their power. their white privilege. that's what's going on in this country. we don't want to face up to the facts. so we try to hide everything. every country promotes propaganda. and the united states does the same thing. nothing's going to change if -- they want to bring god into this. religion had a problem with slaves. the catholic church. all times of religions have slaves. and they started slavery with god. playing on your feeling inferior, feeling like you was a nobody. putting you down. white folks don't want to talk about racism because it makes them look pwadz. they don't want to -- they talk about things like oh, well, you

know, where you going to go better than here? host: we have to move on to john, pittsburg, california, independent. caller: hi. i just wanted to bring up something that another caller mentioned earlier about the national guard shooting paint balls. at people on their porch. and you tried to fact check them and say it was false claim. i guess the false part was that it was not a covid lockdown. it was a lockdown after michael brown -- host: talking about george floyd? caller: george floyd, sorry. there is video what happened. i think it's scary when you have overzealous cops. don't know if they were given orders to do that or took it into their own hands. i wouldn't like to be shot on my porch by a police officer just

for sitting on my porch. whether it's a paint ball or what have you. and apparently they hit the grandmother. that's all. host: sam in crystal springs, mississippi, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. the great society that lyndon b. johnson signed in 1965 was a downfall for the black population. basically the government replaced the black father in the family so the democrat party could have control of the women, many babies they could possibly have. the government was going to take care of that. i'm tired -- i don't understand why the black race the last 50, 60 years has supported democrat party because they have done nothing for them. there are exceptions to that. but they have done nothing for the black race. yet they continue to support the democrat party. and the only reason why they are supporting him, kamala harris is

because supposedly she's half black. i have been hearing things otherwise. i don't understand why the blacf black conservatives out there that's got t they understand the whole thing. for some reason the black population wants to continue to sproert the democrat party -- support the democrat party which doesn't make sense to me. you move on if someone is not taking care of you. the republican party wants everyone to succeed. but you got to work hard to get in that position to do that. we just got a population right now that just wants to hang on to the democrat party. host: let's try to get one more call in. elizabeth, san marcos, california, democrat. quickly. caller: good morning. i just want to remind people that the democratic party brought us social security and medicare. harry truman integrated the military. and instituted the g.i. bill. the voting rights act in 1964 by

lyndon johnson drove all those racist southerners into the republican party. having said that i want to remind people that on the day that golf course thing, the mosp woke up, wanted to be the most powerful person in the world and tweeted out in all caps, i hate taylor swift. the man is an embarrassment to the united states. if you want to see what they are going to do, they are going to rip away all of the support mechanisms for this country in their project 2025. the week of the convention -- host: we are going to have to go at this point. the house is having a pro forma session. thanks so much for joining us today. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2024] the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. the chair lays before the house a communication from the speaker.