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events in iran with them launching missiles gen israel. here is the response. >> that steady leadership is going to matter. it's clear and the world sought on that debate stage a nearly 80-year-old donald trump talking about crowd size is not what we need in this moment but it's not just that. it's those that were closest to donald trump that understand how dangerous he is when the world is this dangerous. his chief of staff john kelly said that he was the most flawed human being he ever met and both of his secretaries of defense and national security advisors said he should be nowhere near the white house. the person closest to them to donald trump said he's unfit for the highest office. that was senator vance. what we've seen out of vice president harris is calmness,
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understanding that our allies matter. when our allies see donald trump turn towards vladimir putin, turn towards north korea, when you see that type of fickleness, we will stay committed and as the vice president said is we will protect our forces and there will be consequences. >> start vance, you're next. -- senator vance, you're next. what do you think? >> i was raised in a working class family. my mother required food assistance for periods of her life. my grandmother required
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sociosecurity help to raise me. i stand here asking to be your vice president with extraordinary gratitude for this country, for the american dream that made it possible for me to live my dream. and i know a lot of you are worried that the american dream is unattainable. i want to convince you that if we can get better leadership in the white house, if we get donald trump back in the white house, the american dream is going to be attainable once again. to answer this question, we have to remember as much as governor walz accused donald trump as an agent of chaos, he did it by establishing effective deterrent. iran has received over $100 billion in unfrozen assets thanks to the kamala harris
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administration they used it to buy weapons and god forbid launching against the united states as well. host: one of several topics at last night's debate. if you want to comment on the debate or the events in the middle east, the number's 202-748-8001 for republicans, 202-748-8000 for democrats and independents, 202-748-8002. you can text us at 202-748-8003. you can make comments as well on our social media site, facebook.com/cspan and on x at @cspanwj. the nbc news department provided these topic bubbles of last night's debate and how much time was devoted to it. amongst the top, character and fitness topics, 13 minutes 6 seconds mattered by matters of economy, immigration, seven minutes plus and the same for abortion, about seven minutes
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devoted to the topic of health care, and the general topic of democracy, six minutes 35 seconds, guns getting a category of knife minutes plus. in virginia, first. caller: the moderators were atrocious. and i think it is time for the debate to be held on c-span or news nation or even fox news. i think these other stations, they're just so slanted. it's just not good. i also wanted to say that they keep talking about another presidential debate.
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there have been two presidential debate. president trump has participated in two. the fact that the democrats got rid of their candidates and then put in another one does not mean that trump should have to go through a third presidential debate. host: so on the topic of last night's debate, what is about the moderation that troubled you? caller: well, they broke their own rules, number one. they had said prior to that they were not going to fact check and then they immediately started fact-checking jd vance. and i felt like when they would turn to walz for his rebuttal, the wording that they used was how would you like to respond to those allegations? but yet when they would give jd vance his turn, it was just senator, you have one minute to
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respond or two minutes. i mean, it was fairly obvious. host: ok. independent line, roland in michigan. go ahead. caller: hi. i thought jd vance was great. i wasn't going to vote at all. but jd vance's performance closed the deal for me to vote for trump and himself. man, he was just -- he performed and acted like a regular working class american who's trying to get through this malaise and he was just fantastic. i think this thing in the middle east is -- god help us all.
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thanks. host: barbara, in nashville, tennessee. democrats line. good morning. caller: good morning. it was refreshing to see a debate with two people who were held within the rails here would normalize political discussion. in regards to israel, you know, there's a lot of talk about israel has a right to defend itself, but i'd like for people to think about the fact why are they always having to defend themselves? and the reason is they're provoking the palestinians to resist and they want them to resist so that they can
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basically cleanse them. and i want people to look up a word called has bruh coming out of the israeli government. host: here is a portion of that from yesterday. >> a constant contact in the israeli government. that remains to be seen. >> have you focused on prime minister netanyahu today? >> i haven't spoken to his people and my message would depend on what we can finally conclude. that remains to be seen. thank you.
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host: again, that was yesterday as the white house, that topic regard the strike or the vice presidential debate is with a you can comment on during the course of our program today. republican line, we'll hear from lee from kansas. go ahead you're next up. caller: yes, i believe jd vance took it by 100%. he spoke clearly and thoroughly. all i got to see mr. walz was the top of his head bent over looking down at cliff notes and he didn't talk a bit about why helps to put tampons in little boys' bathrooms. what kind of foolish thing is that and waste. thing? if he's going to waste our money putting tampons in little boys' bathrooms, he's got no business
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being a vice president. host: independent line in virginia. we'll hear next up from david. david, hello. caller: good morning, c-span. thanks for taking my call. on the presidential debate, what i saw was more of a civil debate and in my opinion, i think either one of these two candidates would be better than trump or harris. considering i think vance probably did win the debate but it was pretty close. i mean, walz made some good points on january 6. the one thing that came out of the abortion which is what ohio has decided to do is put it on a referendum and let the people vote as opposed to the state legislature that. was the majority of the population i would say in this
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very controversial issue. roe v. wade was never codified. the case of planned parenthood versus casey in 1992 limited abortions to i think it's the 24th week, which is -- and on the other subject for israel to attack -- being attacked by iran sponsored terrorists. again, it's israel's right to defend themselves to the max. in other words, october of last year when hamas went into israel and killed civilians, they knew that israel would respond with overwhelming force. and they also knew once they did that, the whole arab world would
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support their position. host: ok. david there in virginia. this is "the washington post" editorial from last night's debate. their headline -- what happens when a substantive debate breaks out? this more productive tone offers a bit of hope for the nation's future and gives america the vance to evaluate substance. --
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it goes on from there. that was one of the editorials between senator vance and governor walz. you can comment on that. and also comment on recent events from the middle east with the missile strike. joe from d.c., democrats line. hi. caller: hi. good morning. prior to last night, i don't think i could have taken jd vance out of the lineup. i've never really heard his voice from listening to so much his rallies and campaign stops on c-span radio. you know, i've seen -- i watched the dnc and i really like him, but i hate to tell you as a democrat but i taught that jd vance did a great job. i thought he was very civil. he came off as very likable. i thought that the way that he answer the question about reproductive rights, you know, was very strategic. it's a winning topic for democrats and it's a big losing
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topic for republicans. so i thought that the way that he came across and said republicans need to change their tone and change the way that they approach this topic. because it's one of those things that if you're never going to change anybody's mind about abortion. if you think it's murder, you're never going to not think it's murder. so i think the idea of kind of taking that out of the equation and saying that regardless of whether or not -- regardless of your moral stance on it, you know, you just need to focus more on families and make it easier for families to make it in america, you know, and not see an unwanted pregnancy as a death sentence. i was just like -- i was blown away by that to hear somebody say than not that i think any of his policies were in line with the rhetoric. i just thought if the debate is
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about rhetoric, not about laying out of substantive policies, i thought his rhetoric on that topic was very aggressive. host: joe there in washington, d.c., commenting on last night's debate. available at the website and our app too if you want to see that. in new york state, independent line. next up, we'll hear from jeff. caller: thank you, pedro. i believe the nation should consider someone afflicted with narcissistic personality disorder be the president of the united states and should a superfan that latches on to him be the vice president of the united states? let me just expound a little bit on this and i believe tim walz messaged it somewhat. the following is an excerpt of narcissistic personality disorder in march 1, 2024.
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narcissistic personality disorder is a complex psychologic condition that presents with a pervasive pattern for need of admiration and lack of empathy. host: how does that apply to last night's debate? caller: yes, i'm going to get to that in just a moment. give me a moment. so if we consider the dangerous nature of a relationship between narcissist and a sycophant, that is former president trump and vice presidential nominee jd vance. vance wrote that he goes back and forth between thinking of trump as a cynical a-hole like nixon who wouldn't be banned and even maybe useful or that he's america's hitler and mr. walz referenced that. now, the definition of a sycophant is the important part. host: hold on. how does that all apply to last
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night? quickly, please. caller: just give me 30 seconds. the definition of a sycophant, let's consider that. someone who preys powerful and rich people in a way that is not sincere, usually in order to get some advantage from him. for example, the prime minister surrounded by sycophants. the visors of a sycophant who are never telling went to retire. this sort of thing. this is the danger we face. host: ok. that's jeff there in new york. pennsylvania, this is bonnie, republican line. good morning. caller: good morning. it was a wonderful, wonderful debate last night. and it shows that no matter what, we in this country are in deep, deep trouble. and if god forbid something should happen to our president, without a doubt, that vice president being vance would be
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an honor to have this gentleman to who has a good head, who puts america first. if we, in this country, do not go back to where we were four years ago, we are not going to exist. i was fortunate enough to travel to the middle east in 1971 to all the middle eastern countries and it is a shame what's going on. .if trump were to be in the whie house today he would have taken out of the refineries and say no. with our administration is allowing to happen is horrible. i pray we can last until election and i pray that the country votes not the number one issue of abortion, but the number one issue of peace in the world, the border, every policy
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that those two gentlemen truly set forth. it was a wonderful debate. host: ok. that's bonnie there in pennsylvania. cbs conducting their own snap survey of the debate results, at least those they surveyed afterward. this is from, you can still find it. this is a cbs poll when asked the question who won the vice presidential debate, 42% saying jd vance and 41% saying governor walz. when asked to describe the tone of the debate, 88% saying it was generally positive. 4% saying it was generally negative. when asked if the debate, if they sounded reasonable, 74% said that tim walz did, 65% said jd vance did. and as the debate sounded extreme, 26% saying that of tim
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walz and 35% of jd vance. if needed, are they prepared to be president if for those who say that the candidates you saw last night were prepared, 60% said tim walz prepared to be president, 55% giving that to jd vance. 40% saying tim walz not prepared, 45% jd vance. more candidates there at -- cat stories from cbs poll. we're asking you to give your own survey and results of last night's debate as well. 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. independents, 202-748-8002. you can talk about last night's debate, also the events in the middle east regarding iran's missile attack. you can put that in the course of conversation over the next two hours 40 minutes or so. let's hear from kenneth in virginia, independent line. hi. caller: yes. thank you for c-span. thank you, pedro, for taking my
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call. i will just try to be brief. first of all, i'm an independent. i'm an african american. but mostly and foremost, i am a christian. now, the reason i bring that up is this. there was a man. his name is reverend dr. martin luther king jr. and i'm going to make the point. he said in a letter from birmingham jail that a just law is a man code, man made code that swears with the law of god. this is perhaps his quintessential statement. and anyone that could stand on stage and read the scripture as did tim walz briefly. he can speak to that but he will not speak about what god says about murdering. he will not speak about what god said about the baby in the womb. he not speak to that issue the
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gentleman earlier talked about sycophants, to deny what he knows or she knows that is codified in scripture. it is god's cannon. so my point in saying is this. this is the quintessential issue. it is no difference than you were in 1840 and ask about slavery and someone else talked about we have to talk about xyz policy. this is the issue. i have a computer science degree. i understand business and technology. but i'm going to tell you this. i would not vote for a democrat as long as they have formerly taken the position that they are ok with murdering babies and that they want this to be federally protected. god gives his choices. host: anita from north carolina. democrats line on either the
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debate or events in israel. anita, good morning. caller: ok. all right. walz. i'm not anti-republican or pro democrat. because i did vote for trump the first time and i voted democrat the second time. but last night, that governor from minnesota who does not come from the -- park as far as state. minnesota is very urban and very nice. and have a 10,000 lakes. he spoke of them being 20% freshwater. all of this stuff going on here and the hurricane and things, he can relate. he's from nebraska. also, any issue that vance would bring up, he would let him know from his experience as governor how he dealt with for everyone involved in that state, ok? which i thought was an excellent
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thing and then for vance to say that donald trump is bringing back the common sense, you can't bring back common sense if you denied the truth. they are prohibiting books in public places where people can get ahold of and learn history of this country. and without the history of the country, people cannot make a common sense decision. i don't care how much money you have. as a matter of fact, you may have money based on the history and don't want to say how you got that money. so, i was very upset with him saying they were the common sense party. host: and of the events of to the middle east? caller: ok. right. i disagree of christians follow jesus and forgiveness and understanding that we all make mistakes or have sort coming just because we don't have perfect knowledge. if israel don't understand that type of religion, then we're going to have a hard time getting them to conform to
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anything that we need from them because they are going to think that they can take in perfect decisions. host: ok. that's anita there in north carolina. here is a caller from the republican line from missouri. caller: i thought jd vance was perfect. he said three and a half years to do what kamala harris claiming what she wants to do to help the country. well, she's still got time. she's vice president. why don't she do it now? instead, she's not. and as far as israel goes, we better stand with israel because if you read your bible, you'll find out israel is god's country
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and god's people. we're all god's people. but israel, the jews are god's people. i did like the debate last night. i thought it was great. vance was wonderful. tim walz i thought he was really fidgety. he couldn't standstill too well. and him talking about using the word fickle. host: ok. commenting on the events of last night's debate. you can continue to do the same. one of the things going into last flit's debate made by cbs was the use of so-called hot mics during it.
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one of those things we came occupy the topic of immigration, both were used by the cbs moderators. it was a conversation that started with the question that senator vance issued about immigration policy and here's how that play out yesterday at the debate. >> most of this is about the president and the vice president empowering our law enforcement to say if you try to come across the border legally, you've got to stay in mexico. you've got to go back through proper channels. governor walz brought up the community of springfield and he's very worried about the things i said in springfield. in springfield, ohio, and in communities all across this country, you've got schools that are open mind. you've got hospitals that are open mind. you've got housing that is totally unaffordable because we brought in millions of illegal immigrants to compete with
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americans for scarce homes the people that i'm most worried about are the american citizens who have had their lives destroyed by kamala harris's open border. and i agree with you. if you want to solve this problem but i don't think kamala harris does. >> governor, you have one minute to respond. >> yeah, it is law enforcement that asks for the bill they helped craft it. they're the ones that supported it. that's because we know we need to do this. this issue of continuing to bring this up, of not dealing with it, of blaming migrants for everything. on housing, we can talk about wall street speculators buying housing but it becomes a blame. this bill also gives the money necessary to adjudicate. i agree. it should not take seven years for an asylum claim to get done. then you start to make a difference in this and you start to adhere in what we know. i don't talk about my faith a
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hot but matthew 25:40 talks about to the least amongst us, you do unto to me. that's true of most americans. they want order to it. this bill does it. it's funded. it's supported by the people who do it and it lets us keep our dignity about how we treat other people. >> thank you, governor. and just to clarify for our viewers, springfield, ohio, does have a large number of haitian migrant who is from legal status temporarily protected. thank you, senator. we have so much to get to. >> i think it's important -- >> talk about the economy. >> the rules were that -- >> the economy -- >> since you're fact-checking me, it's important to say what's actually going on. so there's an application called the cvp1 app and be granted legal status at the wave on thea kamala harris open border one. what is not a person waiting for
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10 years -- >> thank you, senator for describing the legal progress. we have so much to get to, senator. thank you, gentlemen. went to have -- >> it has not been on the books since 1990. >> gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut. host: if you're just joining us, you can comment on either last night's debate or the events in israel concerning iran for the next two and a half hours. 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. and independents, 202-748-8002. you can see the recorded versions on our website and our app if you want. in north carolina, democrats line. taylor, go ahead. caller: hi. good morning.
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yeah, i don't understand the people that don't stop and think for a second about why somebody would complain about fact-checking. well, maybe the guy complaining about fact-checking is complaining because he's trying to lie to you, period. a couple of other thoughts. yes, jd vance looked pretty slick last night but it's easy to look slick when you refuse to answer any questions and then lie about everything. like he lied and lied and lied. gave no solutions. and, i mean, frankly, people think he looks great because of how terrible donald trump looks. the debate last night was so great because we didn't have a senile maniac screaming at us. host: independent line from maryland. you're next.
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caller: thank you. love c-span and "washington journal." wow. i just wrote some notes down from i guess the last seven callers on the line at the debate last night was more traditional than what we've seen. it's kind of what -- i'm 50 something years old. so it's what i've been used to as far as political debates go. jd vance was polished. got to give it to him. and tim walz looked a little -- i don't know, he looked a little disheveled in terms of -- not disheveled in appearance but he looked a little nervous. if you remember the nixon-kennedy debates, of course, nixon lost initially because of his sweating issue and the way he looks on camera. so tim walz needs to work on that. as far as jews and israel being
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able to defend itself, the caller talked about israel being god's people. middle east needs an ally. the united states needs an ally in the united states and that is who israel is and that is why they're so important. there's another caller talked about narcissist and sick fans. i'm going back and forth in my best friend who is a trump supporter. i want the country to be balanced. i want the country to settle and degrees our issues using the -- address our issues using the full weight of the judicial system.
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host: let's hear from christine from the republican line. caller: hello. i've been listening to the man calling in and i kind of protect myself by listening to pbs's reason why we have a vice president and that kind of prepared me and i was just astonished to see when nixon and the watergate thing came up how that -- the lor just intervened and a man who had never run for an office was the one that was chosen and then he -- things kept going on and then he ended up being one of our best presidents and a godly man and we had peace on that time he was in office. host: and how does that relate to yesterday's debate? caller: well, that mr. vance, he
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still really denies that biden won the election. and so i think that things haven't changed. they haven't changed their mind about who won the election. and they don't really accept president biden as our president and they want to blame everything on the vice president which she has no presidential power. she can't go above biden. host: ok. caller: so it looks like -- it's going to be the lord that puts someone in and for better or for worse, we're just going to live with the results. host: ok. let's hear from charlie in minnesota, independent line. you are next. good morning. caller: yeah, hi, pedro. how are we going today, pedro? host: it goes well. go ahead.
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caller: i'm from minnesota, of course, and i think tim walz did a horrible job. he looked very nervous. he had a stern face. i never got to see him smile on there. it's like he was a robot. as far as him putting tampons in the boys' bathroom, i think they're trying to push something that a lot of people don't want. host: what did you get from last night's debate? caller: huh? i'm sure glad vance is running. that's all i got to say. host: some of you commenting on the social media site from texting us this is from daunte in florida saying this debat seemed too cordial with both men being nice but when vance refused to say what won in 2020, he there's no credibility. this is alspaa from facebook saying jd fact-checking. i lik walz.
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i am glad he's n fe like vance. walzs nice guy who wants to serve the common good. if you want to post there, facebook.com/cspan. post on x as well at @cspanwj. and texting is available, too, 202-748-8003. it's how you do that. let's hear from alicia from arkansas, republican line. hi. caller: good morning. hi. thank you for taking my call. the debate last night, i thought was good. i thought vance did a great job. and the vice president debate is important because right now, we have harris as the vice president and we have an inconfident joe biden that is incapable of leading and if he
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was going to do good as a -- she was going to be good as a president, she would have been leading and he is being confident. that's why we have vice presidents. host: talk about the candidates that could be -- one of them would be the next vice president watch. did you think about them specifically? caller: i thought vance was very knowledgeable. i thought he knows the law. the constitution. he's been to the military. he had risked his life for this country. he knows what it will be to put boots on the ground. i think he's familiar with foreign policy. i think he's a real person that came from the heartland of america and came up through hard times. so he knows how it is to do without. and so i think he's more in touch with the real majority of american people.
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we got leaders up there that's made horrible decisions regarding all the problems that we're facing. you know, they can't deny that immigration is up 318%. the numbers may be down right this second but they're still flying them over in airplanes. and as far as israel's situation, now, i'm in my 50's. and a lot of people don't remember that i remember 1979 when they came in, iran took it over. and took bunch of hostages, american hostages. i remember how they got on that plane and how they look like people have stretched thin over
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bones. because they knew that ronald reagan was going to put a stop to it. host: ok. let's hear from kathy in washington, d.c. democrats line on last night's debate or events in israel or with iran. good morning. go ahead. caller: good morning. i knew that jd vance would win on style. but i really think that walz won on substance. there were so many questions that jd vance didn't answer, that he dodged, that he kind of skated his way through. because i watched the rallies, i know who jd vance is as a person. so i think he's a chameleon. i think he changes for the moment. and he's very good at selling himself. i think what's missing is that people don't have basic knowledge of what a vice president -- what the role of the vice president is and what role they have and what role they don't have. i think people don't understand
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the basic workings of how the economy works. if you want to know jd vance, you can actually go on a congressional website and see how he has voted. that's what i look at. i look at your record. i see how you vote. so you can't get on a debate and true to pretend to be something that you're not. there's so many things that he misspoke on such as his child care question was ridiculous. i think he's blaming the housing crisis on immigrants. people coming in to the country with nothing but the clothes on their back are not buying up the homes. the housing crisis, there are many reasons. you have investors who have bought up homes with cash kicked people out of the market regular everyday americans trying to be homes. there's a lot of things that affect the housing crisis. so for that, people need to do more of their research. all in all in substance, i think
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walz won the debate. host: ok. maryland, let's hear from liz, independent line. caller: oh, my god. i will say that vance is a smooth operator. he's a smooth liar. he, you know, a little bit more laid back. he lied about everything he lied about obamacare. he lied claiming that he and trump supported that when we all know that trump tried his darndest to get rid of it he >> we take you live now to auburn hills, michigan, where republican vice presidential nominee jd vance is speaking at a campaign rally. live coverage on c-span. ♪
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