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to the atlantic. a hurricane went through weeks ago and then went into georgia and north ca, causing death, widespread flooding, and ctn. rescue efforts are ongoing. the first hour, we are asking for your grade on the biden administration's hurricane response. here are the phone lines. republicans, (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. if you have been impacted by hurricane helene or if you are in the evacuation zone of hurricane milton, call us on (202) 748-8003. that is also our line for text messages, include first name, city, state. and you can post on social media, facebook.com/c-span or on x with handle @cspanwj.

we are glad you are with us. we start with president biden at the white house yesterday talking about the federal response to hurricane helene and also preparations for hurricane milton. [video clip] pres. biden: cut directly across the state, all the way across the state, with the potential for this storm to enter florida as a hurricane and leave florida as a hurricane on the atlantic coast. this could be the worst storm to hit florida in over a century. that is what it is looking like. emergency declarations have been called in florida, second time in a week and the two above that, by the way. i said the fema administrator down yesterday to work intensively with state and local partners and to provide more resources.

they will continue that work in the coming days. i am calling on the airlines and other companies to provide as much service as possible to accommodate evacuations and not to engage in price gouging, just do it on the level. last night i spoke again with the governor of florida and the tampa mayor, and i made it clear to them they should reach out, including to me directly, with everything else they may need as they see this storm hit. i gave them my personal number to contact me here in the white house. most important is everyone currently located in hurricane milton's path to listen to local officials and follow safety instructions. highways with shoulders open come everybody out, and if you are under evacuation orders, you should evacuate now. now, now. you should have already evacuated. it is a matter of life and

death. it is a matter of life and death. fema has provided 300 ambulances to move people who cannot move themselves out of health care facilities. and while we prepare for hurricane milton, we are still serving resources in other states to respond to hurricane helene. it is real, the impact is still there. we are not going to leave until the job is done. host: we are asking about federal response to the hurricane, preparation for hurricane milton. we have a couple posts on facebook. ann says my family the asheville area are gratel r everyone there helping. jen says with l e reports and hearing from people on the ground, it wou he to be an f. a+ for the civilian groups on the ground that are doing great work.

nicholas says he givest an "a. " it is based on sublime's -- based on supplies from before the storm hit. to david in georgia, independent. caller: good morning, c-span. yes, ma'am, i can speak directly to biden's help in georgia, but first i need to speak about how georgette did not help us. out -- how georgia did not help us. our governor ignored getting help to us earlier in the week, then he waited until tuesday, four days after the storm hit, to take his little tour to augusta, georgia, and say i am on the way. and then thursday morning, he decides to call biden, and biden

says how much, where do you need it, where do you wanted? we had a great response after the governor decided we needed help. and i have had to go tell people who read homes that fema will come and help you. they are going, what? yes, ma'am, they're waiting for you to call. this is pitiful, the amount of misinformation that has been spread for five days while our government -- governor did nothing. i want you to understand, we have four schoolhouses in our little town. every one of them had a generator. saturday, i was telling the police department, just listen, open up the one in the best shape and give us a place to store our medicine, to cool off, to do anything that would help us. no, the only thing that helped us was a lifeline helicopter flying people out left and right because they could not get no help at the hospital. it was on a middle room with

their generator. so our response in georgia has been just ruined by our governor and our local governments who have ignored the people. and it was until thursday, six days later, that he decides to call the federal government for help. now, i don't know about y'all, but this has been the republican response for most any disaster that we have. i would like to thank you all for it -- host: give us an idea of what the condition is there in your part of georgia. what has been the impact of the hurricane? caller: yes, ma'am, i can do that day by day for you. friday by 2:00, i already knew that we were in deep trouble because georgia power, food supplies power to excelsior, emc, our local electrical suppliers, there line was

destroyed. it took until tuesday to get electricity to the substation. in that. top of time, there was no test in that period of time -- in that period of time, there was no food coming in. down the road, they were hitjust as hard, and we had to go there to get meals. it has been ridiculous the response we have had here because we were devastated. you can draw a 100 mile line east of i 75 and just see where it looks like somebody just took their and and rung it up through the state all the way to asheville. host: david, do you have power now? caller: yes ma'am, i am one of the lucky ones. i got my power back friday afternoon. host: do you have access to clean water? were you able to get food?

caller: yes, ma'am. these stores have recovered well. took a day and a half to get water on. i offered the police department water and the fire department water. it was just friday, all of our people here -- you drove around, and you could see the shock. they did not understand what happened. and they were not responding to the people who knew how to get past of this and have services ready by friday evening. host: we wish you well. roland in glen burnie, maryland, democrat. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. when you have hate in your heart, does not matter if you call yourself christian or evangelical or whatever, every evil, as long as you really hate, so if you believe whatever trump says, offering the money

for the damage just because they are offering it -- why would they choose to believe everything trump says just because they hate the other party? it is a shame. you know, i never see that man smile. all anger and hate in his head. [inaudible] hello, are you there? host: yes, we can hear you. caller: republicans should really check themselves, check in your hearts. host: here is ben in mississippi, independent. caller: good morning.

i have been impacted -- i have not been impacted by any hurricanes, but looking at the different networks, all the entities are doing the best they can. but i wanted to answer -- ask this question about, i saw where trump had called putin for the second time in the past four years, and he sent him covid tests during the time he was president when we were having problems getting covid tests. host: we will talk about later in the program during open for them, but we are going to stick with the hurricane. do you have anything to say about the federal response? caller: well, what i have been seeing on the different networks, fema and red cross and all of them is doing the best they can.

it is hard to get to some of these people that live close to the mountains and stuff. host: here is abc news with this, harris goes after trump's false claims about fema's storm response. she was on "the view." and we had a portion of that. [video clip] vp harris: it is profound, and it is the height of irresponsibility and, frankly, callousness. lives are literally at stake right now. i traveled to georgia and north carolina after hurricane helene. in georgia, i met a woman who said her husband was killed in her home by a fallen tree. days later i met with her and her dog, you can imagine the pain and shock they are still in about what they experienced, what they witnessed -- days later i met with her and her

daughter, you can imagine the pain. we are talking about real human beings in their lives, they are losing everything. everything. someone lost her husband, her child lost her father. people are losing their home with no hope of ever being able to reconstruct or return. and the idea that somebody would be playing political games for the sake of himself, but this is so consistent about donald trump. he puts himself before the needs of others. he really lacks empathy on a basic level, to care about the suffering of other people and understand the role of a leader is not to beat people down, it is to lift people up. especially in a time of crisis. [applause] host: we are taking your calls this morning. phone lines are, republicans, (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000.

independents, (202) 748-8002. you can also text us at (202) 748-8003. that is the line we also have set aside if you are impacted by hurricane helene, if you are being evacuated for hurricane milton. you can use that line. here is john, hampton, virginia, democrat. caller: good morning. a couple of things, i do not understand how people want to -- do not evacuate when people tell them to evacuate. there is a lady with her family in north carolina, they are having a hurricane in florida, as well, but she says she's not evacuating, but she wants help for her family in north carolina from fema. there were people who do not want big government in their lives, but guess what, fema as part of big government. that is big government.

thank you. host: stacy in maryland, republican. caller: hi, how are you? host: good. caller: i do not think any government, whether democrat or republican party, can be prepared for disasters at this magnitude. but i also do not understand that when you have reports and you are seeing people being affected by it on the ground, telling the american people they are not getting the help they need, they are being denied the $750, that fema has not been there, that nobody has been there, why is an anybody listening? but kamala harris and biden or the democrats or whoever are saying we are there, we are there. but when you have the american citizens screaming nobody is helping us except for their neighbors, so it is just like there's two different views to the story.

you have the political one saying we are doing everything we can, we are there, we are there, we are there. and then you have the american people who are actually suffering and are affected by this, no one is there. i just cannot see the american people lying. they are crying on the phones, they are devastated. they have lost everything, lost loved ones, their homes, lost everything. and they are not getting help. people being denied the $750, which to me is insane. so i do not understand why the pictures are so different on each side. host: in here is pete, massachusetts, democrat. caller: i think it is fairly reprehensible that the republicans, or the maga movement, wants to politicize these disasters. and i have no doubt that fema and the democrats are doing everything they can. honest to god, are you really

going to tell me you believe somebody like trump really has your interests at heart? do you remember how he handled puerto rico? he has very selective -- if it is to his political advantage, yeah, you might get some aid. if not, you're on your own. this is the type of guy he is. you still have four weeks to wake up. he is a menace. i am not saying the democrats do everything right, but there is empathy and sympathy and caring for people. since i will not be able to get back on, you people should be outraged at the phone calls to putin, because he has no reason in the past four years to be talking to that dictator/murderer. time to wake up. host: all right.

we have a portion of what former president trump said on an interview on fox monday. [video clip] fmr. pres. trump: almost $300 million to ukraine, yet they bring people $750 for the worst. for the worst hurricane anybody has seen. more importantly, they do not have the people. it is a very bad thing. >> how would you do it differently? fmr. pres. trump: i would have a tremendous team of people. i was in north carolina yesterday come in georgia, and georgia is different, you have a good governor doing a very good job, but north carolina is a disaster. it was also hit very hard. but they do not have the people. they are complaining, there's no people to help. that was a horrific storm, much worse -- and late in the season, you do not think anything like that can happen. but you have to get the people out. i was there for the entire day and saw virtually nobody other than the people who are badly affected. one man, he has a house that is

gone and he is sitting on a rock, sitting on a rock. you have to help him, and you have to help him monetarily also. if you look, it is virginia, alabama, south carolina was hit very hard -- i spoke to their great governor there, and they were hit very hard. >> biden said the response has been robust and well coordinated, mr. president. [laughter] fmr. pres. trump: nobody says that. i know it robust is -- [laughter] he should be there, and she should be there. she should not be fundraising. she is out at fundraisers. host: back to the phone lines now, bill in florida, republican. caller: yeah, i don't understand this myself. you know, the $8 billion they just sent to ukraine would make that whole community new again.

i do not understand how they can do that. host: all right. this is chester, greensboro, north carolina, independent. caller: how you doing? host: good. caller: here is what i want to say, i feel sorry for people for the hurricane. but -- [indiscernible] it is, ok, it is said. but both our president in office, i ain't blame trump but i am republican and i love trump, but way i feel quick -- quit giving other countries money.

help american people. i know trump would do it. [indiscernible] barely making it, social security. american people, forget about these other states, and people need help. people on social security, on part-time jobs, stuff like that, we need help. groceries and gas. host: all right, chester. just so you know, fema has put out a hurricane rumor response page on their website, fema.gov, if you would like to take a look at it. they are going through several rumors that have been circulating and then giving facts. for instance, there is a rumor that fema is blockading people

in florida and preventing evacuations. that is false. fema only provides loans to disaster survivors. it says false. in most cases, fema grants do not have to be paid back. it goes into some more detail. another one, applying multiple times for disaster assistance will speed up the process of being approved. it says people need to apply for assistance one time per household, do not resubmit or create a new application during the disaster assistance process. that will cause delays. mark in evans, georgia, democrat. caller: hello. host: how is it going in evidence? caller: evans is going. it is a disaster. homes, trees, homes crushed, falling trees.

but the respons the power companies, fem been great. looking at or 50 counties in georgia. and now florida was hit and going to be hit again, those people, they are in trouble. they need to get out of florida quick. here, i have seen what happens, and we were at the north central part of georgia, and i never seen so many trees. i have seen trees knocked down, days and days come and i have gone weeks without power, and there were people here still without power and probably will not get power for weeks. it is just devastating. as for his response, getting food, fuel, getting restaurants open, getting fuel stations open, stores open, supplies coming in, i am in columbia

county, and richmond county still has it. the work to restore power has been phenomenal. personally with ppl, pennsylvania power and light, crews restored our circuit he would we have had power for about three days now. we are lucky they restored our power, very lucky. the loss at my end, i have been lucky. we were scared. just fallen trees, that's it. homes, labs, investments. i cannot count how many homes have been destroyed and crushed. trucks have been trying to clear the debris so people can even get in to see what is left of their homes. but the government response, counter response, has been excellent for the amount of damage that this disaster has caused. i want to let people know, they

are doing what they can hear and they are doing a great job. doing a fantastic job trying to restore our lives. host: mark, we are glad you are doing ok. here is chuck in alabama, republican. caller: yes, i have been to north carolina, actually part of the team that has been restoring power there. and i would say that i have seen countless numbers of homes that had signs in front of them that says nine days in, still no fema response, they can't get through to the website. it is blocked. just like the obamacare kickoff, it gets overwhelmed. and people without power or anything like that, they get

very frustrated. it is a complete and total mess up there in north carolina. the roads are washed out, people left without anything. they just need a helping hand because their homeowners insurance does not cover any of this. then you are at the mercy of the federal government, which has done a terrible job. the biden administration is a complete and total failure. people may believe it, trump was exactly right when he said i have not seen the first fema person in north carolina and spent two weeks up there, and i am actually hands-on. host: when you say you were restoring power, were you able to get the power turned back on? do those areas have power now? caller: some of them do.

actually, i am a retired person and i actually help with coordinating power, to getting power put back on. it is not as good as it could be as far as their response. i am not going to name the energy company because i might get in trouble. but i can see they are completely overwhelmed, have never seen anything like this before. and the power company is not exactly staffed like it should be. host: all right. we will talk to charles now, independent in upper marlboro, maryland. caller: good morning. thank you very much for all that you do. let me say this, we should have learned a long time ago that the

federal government definitely has an interest in responding to these storms. i want everyone to recall what happened in new orleans with hurricane katrina and the manner in which the bush-cheney administration either arguably responded or did not respond. and now we are looking at what is happening in florida, georgia, north carolina and how the biden harris administration is responding or not responding. we do not need to see ms. harris on "the view." we do not need them running around the country trying to get folks when we have americans suffering in very, very important states. it does not matter which states one lives in if there is suffering going on and the american government can respond, the government should respond.

a number of your callers have highlighted the fact that we have the government sending money to israel and to ukraine. yes, i understand we have friends around the world, but we also have americans here at home. we need to pay attention to americans first. that is what we need to do. i know everyone listening will remember this on november 5 when it is time to cast our vote, because we truly vote -- want a government that will respond to the american people first. thank you very much for taking my call. have a great day. host: this is the front page of the washington times, with a picture here in the headline, desantis shuns harris as hurricane nears. biden offers federal assistance to already ravaged states. comments to reporters, vice president harris accused florida governor desantis of being irresponsible for not taking her

calls on hurricane response, and here is what governor desantis said in response. [video clip] >> we have been laser focused on leveraging all resources, including from the federal government, and i have been in touch with both fema and the president and with our state agencies and working to support our local communities, so for kamala harris to try to say that my sole focus on the people of florida is somehow selfish is delusional. she has no role in this. in fact, she has been vice president for three and a half years, i have dealt with a number of storms under this administration, she has never contributed anything to any of these efforts. so i think it is selfish for her trying to blunder into this -- >> has she ever called before? >> no, she has no role in this process.i am in contact with the president of the united states, with the fema director. i am obviously managing all our

state agencies, supporting local governments -- i-- i will say te worked well with trump and biden and she is the first one who is trying to politicize the storm and she is doing that because of her campaign. she is trying to get some type of edge. she knows she is doing poorly and is playing a political game. i don't have time for games. i've got people whose lives and homes are on the line. we are focused 100% on that mission. host: getting your comments on federal response to the hurricane. we will hear from michael in california, democrat. caller: thank you for having me. is it too much political in this ? [indiscernible]

florida, north carolina, blah blah, but in california we have fires, people lose their houses, their lives. too much political. what i'm trying to say is this, trump, i don't know what it was he said, abandoning them because we are republican. we don't need the republicans to govern. we don't need the distraction. we have the people who are helping. we need to educate. trump told the lie out.

kamala, i saw yesterday, she said collier sheriff directly, the people, how it should be. she said don't do nothing, don't listen to all this stuff. call your sheriff. call your police department, they will tell you what to do. blah blah blah. the florida governor saying she doesn't have the right to say this? all of these lies, she would be all right to say the simple stuff. don't listen to anything. just call your sheriff. i don't understand this. host: cnn says the new harris

digital ad attacks the trump handling of natural disaster relief. we have the ad for you. here it is. >> i worked in the trump administration. >> never in a million years that i think i would work in the white house with a president who didn't care about the american people. >> he would suggest not giving disaster relief to states that hadn't voted for him. >> one time after a wildfire in california he wouldn't send relief because it was a democratic state. we went so far as to look up how many votes he got in the impacted areas to show him that these are the people who voted for you. this isn't normal. his job as president is to protect americans, regardless of politics. >> if trump is elected again, he will have yes-men helping him impact project 2000 25, unchecked power, no guard rails. >> they will be serving one man. i'm voting for kamala harris because she will be putting the

safety of every american first, whether they voted for her or not. host: tom, new jersey, good morning. caller: how are you? host: good. caller: i can tell you how deeply kamala harris is concerned about these hurricanes. north carolina, right, they are still digging themselves out, trying to find who's alive, who is going to make it. then there is another storm getting ready to crush florida. kamala harris, and this is why i'm not voting for her, harris, and i was going to vote for her, sitting on tv here last night. what does that tell the american people? she is a laughing hyena. anyone who votes for her is a fool.

thank you. host: here's the article about that from axios, harris takes aim at loser trump over beers with cora blair, saying that she criticized her republican presidential rival for his relationship with russian leader vladimir putin during an interview with stephen colbert last night. harris became angry as she noted journalist bob woodward reports in his upcoming book that trump sent rare covid test machines to putin early in the pandemic, according to an excerpt from her interview with stephen colbert. that was shared with reporters ahead of airing. "do you remember what those days were like? remember how many people didn't have tests and were trying to scramble to get them? this after colbert opened a can of miller high life beer. remember how rare it was to have and do you remember people by the hundreds were dying every

day? this man is giving covid test kits to vladimir putin? think about what this means on top of him sending love letters to kim jong-un. think about it. he thinks -- well, that's his friend. what about the american people? they should be your first friend. darrell, idaho, independent line. caller: hi, i just wanted to call about the fema thing. host: host: yes. caller: if you search for fema.gov under duck duck go and under the shelter services program, fiscal year 2020 four awards, i think it came out in april, it tells you exactly about the, the money that everyone is talking about. the money that's going for -- it's going for fiscal year 2000

24, u.s. department of homeland security will provide 600 and $44 million in available funds to enable nonfederal entities to offset allowable costs incurred for services associated with noncitizen migrant arrivals in this country, in their countries. the funding will be distributed through opportunities, 300 million to be allocated ssp competitive. it's distributed through fema. host: ok, darrell. following up on that story, the test kits going to putin, the hill says the trump campaign blasts woodward and denies secret putin calls.

the former president trump campaign is rejecting the accounts in the new book that the republican presidential nominee has held multiple phone calls with vladimir putin since leaving office in january of 2021. the book, called "war," trump agreed to secretly send covid-19 testing equipment. stephen chun, munication's director, telling the hill in a statement that none of these made up stories by bob woodward are true and said that trump gave no access to the journalist for the latest book, as trump at for past books. he says that woodward suffers from a debilitating case of trump derangement syndrome. dale, democrat, birmingham, alabama, good morning. so caller: i was calling because i wanted you to play the tapes of the governors saying that

biden and the federal government are giving everything that they need when they call them and ask what you need to. they said we have everything we need. there are pictures, there are governors saying that there are over 3000 or 4000 people that have been called in to assist the people there. i don't know where they are getting -- it's so politicized. people only listening to one side, but i was listening to it coming straight out of the governors mouth. not what trump said, not what kamala harris said. and i will tell you another thing. she has just as much right to be there because she is the nominee . where is jd vance? why hasn't he gone there? will they turn him down saying that he has no business? as far as her drinking a beer, that shouldn't bother anybody, drinking a beer or a pepsi, are

they going to criticize her for that? then they are going to say she's not out in the world, they don't know nothing about her, she's not making the media. you are dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. people need to go back to their corner, they know who they are going to vote for already. they don't care what kamala says, what biden says, whoever they are going to vote for, it's already baked in. but i do remember this, mimi, and then i get off the phone. when the puerto ricans lost everything, comp -- trump came in and through paper towels at the people. that's all he did. somebody asked -- what would you have done? he evaded the issue because he knew he wouldn't have done anything. he wants to only give to people that voted for him. people, we are in trouble. this world is in trouble.

we have got to get down on our knees and love everybody and pray to the lord to take care of us, because we are in serious trouble when everybody cannot look at the good in the other person. i look at the good in trump, i look at the good in biden. you need to be able to think for yourself. there are people at his rallies that sit behind him, one man was holding up a finger when trump was talking. it's sad, you know? host: all right. let's go to the republican line. canton, north carolina, good morning. caller: i'm just west of asheville, north car devastated, won't have water for months on end. they are a major city. i wantedout out to all the linemen who are coming here from canada, nebraska, texas.

wanted to take a shout out to duke energy, walmart. walmart, you stepped up. to listen to these people out here that want to talk about fema, i haven't seen fema. not one time. my neighbors have become close friends now. democrats want to sit out here, your hate -- asheville, north carolina, the only blue spot in western north carolina. it's gone. entire towns, gone. wiped off the map. never to be seen again. where is kamala? i'm sorry, but the response, the

second day, fema should have been here, the national guard should have been here. the corps of engineers should have been here. i was eight days without water, power. i just now got cell phone service. there are still people here without power. there are still people here that actually have meal trains to get into people's houses. that's volunteers. it's not government. it's our neighbors. so, america, wake up. if you think the federal government cares for you, need something. have a good day. host: john and conley springs, north carolina, you are impacted by the hurricane? caller: yes, i was. probably 30 trees down.

god bless that man before me, he told the 100% truth. i don't know how in the world you hate trump so bad, but talking about all the bad things he done? i don't see bad things he done. i see a lot of good things he done. they don't care about us. i was out nine days, maybe one years old, staggering around in the dark. people that, and got my power on in nine days. i'd like to thank them for that. it's, it's, it's, it's awful. that's the truth. that's what's going on. people just don't know. don't know what we have wound up with here. they don't care. i mean, kamala harris?

sitting around drinking a beer while the people appear -- i'm not from asheville, but it's a terrible mess. i will never vote for another democrat, never in my life. you have a good day. host: all right. this is at a campaign event in detroit, jd vance was asked about fema disaster funds being diverted for migrants. here it is. [video clip] >> my point is the focus of the current administration. if you use resources, most importantly if you put people on the task of dealing, let's say, with the massive influx of illegal immigration, they will be distracted from doing their core job of keeping americans safe in response to disaster. each of us, it's true of everybody in the world, we have only got so much time to focus,

only so much time in the day. if you take fema and turn it into an agency that re-settles immigrants, it will take focus away from working on a hurricane, that is basic human reality and there is no way around it. but the fact checkers say, and we will try to be as fair as possible, my friends, what the fact checkers will say is that there is a bucket of money that goes to illegal immigrants and that's a different bucket of money that goes to disaster relief. i'm sure the biden administration has never moved money from one bucket to the other. in three point five years? in 3.5 years, we know that kamala harris and joe biden are more than willing to move money from one bucket to another if it suits their purpose. they ought to move the money to the bucket that supports american citizens in the wake of these terrible storms. that is what i would like them to do. the final point i want to make

about this is bureaucratic focus. i have seen wild stuff on the internet. the problem i'm seeing from biden administration is they are not focused on getting the resources to the people who need it. when harris is at a san francisco fundraiser while north carolina is drowning, the people of north carolina have every right to say why is the vice president not focused on us? that focus has got to change. host: this is on the fema site, fema.gov, saying that the disaster response efforts and individual assistance are funded through the disaster relief fund, a dedicated fund for disaster efforts. relief fund money has not been diverted to other non-disaster related efforts. romney in atlanta, georgia, democrat, good morning. caller: morning, how are you this morning?

host: doing ok. caller: great. i'm just calling and because i feel that we have two parties going on right now. the republicans and the democrats. republicans feel that the united states is going down. democrats feel it's all right, it's moving up, it wants to go up. one thing that americans need to know, the country was started by men that said that only people that could vote owned land or anything was a white man. the country was started as a racist country and it still is a racist country. the republican party are the racists. donald trump is the lead man. the justice department charged him with discriminating against nonwhite people. host: getting back to the topic of the hurricane, do you think race has been involved in how the federal government has been

responding? caller: no, i think the response has been normal. the republican party likes to lie to say everything is going the other way. donald trump told a lie today, yesterday, every day he lies about something and now he has got vance to support the lies. so, i don't really see any difference in dealing with a republican or dealing with the ku klux klan. host: here is fritz in clarksville, tennessee, good morning. caller: i want to say something positive, changes can be made to the law where if someone hands you a check for $750 and there is no place to spend it and no bank to cash it out, why not let all of these people know that their bills, their debts are suspended for a month. if you are in a disaster area,

all of your payments are suspended. that would be a huge relief to them, you know, one worry off their mind. and then, you know, 30 days, if your house is destroyed you have got a year. feed the people, give them some housing. that's what they need. host: all right, fred. here is donna in clyde, texas, good morning. caller: i'm a disabled veteran with eight years of service in the army and i'm absolutely disgusted at the american regime running the country and the response to the needs of the americans over the citizens of the rest of the world. absolutely disgraceful. our constitution is being slowly and deliberately destroyed. i want to know when the biden

harris the disgrace of an organization is going to start telling the truth? mainstream media lies are worse than ever. we have been propagated and programmed and lied to so long that the americans don't even know the truth. i want to know when they are going to start telling us the truth on the television. you are letting us talk for a change and i appreciate that. host: all right, donna, here's the fema administrator talking about the trump claims of fema being understaffed. >>'s accusations are completely false. the first thing i would say is that just because you don't see someone on the ground in a fema shirt doesn't mean we don't have people there. we have him -- we have people embedded in the state operations center, teams walking around neighborhoods, teams embedded. people are on the ground and they are bringing in resources and it isn't just fema.

we are one part of a federal family with over 3400 members across all federal agencies in north carolina helping to support this response. we will continue to bring in more resources as we go into the recovery and long-term needs of these communities. we have got to stop this rhetoric. it is putting fear in the people that we will not be there to help them. i worry that they won't register for assistance with us and get access to the critical resources they are eligible for. caller: -- host: we t a text from ec who gives a grade of b -- gra of b plus, good job of preparation before the storm hit and they will do what is needed after the storm is gone. what more do you want? cindy, democratic line, good morning.

caller: nobody ever talks about this, but the real reason fema is running out of money is because we keep building and rebuilding in the flood zones. who is it that lives in the flood zones? the filthy rich. our tax dollars keep going to the filthy rich to rebuild in these flood zones. i sent you a book, i just sent it out yesterday, i sent it to john mcardle, is that how you say his name? host: yes. caller: it's called the geography of risk. if you pull up the book -- if you pull up the book, he talks about the costs and the insanity of building on flood zones. i'm from florida. 66 year florida native. i think that the biden administration has done the normal thing. it cannot put its resources in the middle of a hurricane to

risk their own lives to be there for the people who keep building in these flood zones. i hope you pull up that book. i hope you have bill burt and call on one of your programs to talk about the costs and the rebuilding that we do in these flood zones for the filthy rich. host: on the republican line in turtle creek, pennsylvania, john, hello. caller: thank you for taking my call. on this hurricane, all of our prayers and god should be with these people. everyone is watching the videos, you can see what these people are going through. the gentleman who called earlier pretty much pointed out what they are going through. i'm a republican. i don't want to get into a battle about whether fema is getting -- giving money to illegals or not.

i don't have to. if you would only pull up the tape of john pierre talking at the podium in 2022, she was asked the question of where they get the money for the migrants. she came right out and said they are redirecting funds from fema to take care of it. fox has showed this over and over again. there should be no argument about this. as far as fema not having money? they just passed a big infrastructure bill. all of those projects haven't been completed. you complete the ones you are being worked on and he redirected them funds to these people. we give money to planned parenthood. that is not a real priority right now. these people have lost their homes and everything. redirect the funds from planned parenthood. it is just like running a household. your funds run out in an emergency, you have to find a way to replace the hot water tank, you know?

the government doesn't run like we run our homes and if they did, we wouldn't be in these situations. the money is there. nobody in the government can tell me they don't have money available that they can give to these people. i appreciate the calls of the people calling in from the areas , i'm glad that they have cell phone because of elon musk and the units they put in so that they can call into the show in the morning, that way he really get a person who is living through this telling you exactly what the government is not doing . thank you for taking my call. host: charlotte, milwaukee, independent, you are next. caller: yes, my brother live in nashville. from day one, the church been in asheville. he said fema was definitely on the ground. they was coming to his house, helping him out. that fema is not helping people?

i talked to my brother every day. he was on msnbc. said fema is definitely on the ground. they are working out something. first it was water. then they got the electric. he went to a church that does fema in the zone. people are lying. there's a lot of ai. a lot of state information. by themselves, trump and the republicans, mega, putting lies out to people. host: jim is in butler,

wisconsin, good morning. caller: i got a buddy of mine that build a home outside of asheville, north carolina. the thing people got to remember, carolina in that area is mountainous, hilly, when roads are washed out, it's hard to do stuff. he said fema is definitely there. said he has seen the light, seen the lies. the republicans are lying. this is just a disgrace. trump is a treasonous criminal and should be hung. host: we will ended at that point. coming up next, we discuss the role of women voters campaign 2024 with christian nunes, president of the national

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we are going to talk about women voters and campaign 2024. our guest is christian nunes, national organization for women president. explain the organization and with the goals are in the funding is. guest: national organization for women is the oldest and largest women's organization in the u.s., grassroots membership organization made up founded in 1966 and made up of state and local chapters throughout the u.s. and also in puerto rico. our work is around making sure we are having an approach to look for rights and equality and we do this right focusing on six core issues, constitutional equality, economic justice, violence against women, lgbtqia

rights, racial justice and reproductive rights. when we look at this, wait make sure we are acknowledging every woman has different issues that impact them and work to advance advocacy and awareness. host: regarding the presidential campaign, what are you doing? guest: we are working to make sure we are helping to get women elected into office and by endorsing federal candidates into office, including throughout our state and wait make sure we are looking for candidates who have a feminist agenda in what i mean is they are voting for women's rights in issues that pertain to women and will benefit women's equality in safety.

host: you wrote an opinion piece with kamala harris is the best choice to represent women. why do you think that is the case? guest: kamala harris has demonstrated how she understands the issues of women and has demonstrated her leadership and understand she is relatable to the common cause of women are experiencing right now in this country. when she is setting policies and programs and her opinions and plans, she is letting us know she is keeping women in mind. we haven't seen in a long time anyone who has that agenda that focuses on including women and women's rights in security and kamala harris has been doing that from the beginning. host: you can start calling in for our guests. republicans (202) 748-8001,

democrats (202) 748-8000, an independents (202) 748-8002. we are talking about women in the election. what role do you think women will play in this election and how do you foresee it being different from the 20 16th election when hillary clinton was running? guest: it is a great question because women have always played an important role in all elections for democracy. i believe we will see women turned out even more than they have ever done. we do know women are the primary voters for this election and we will see more women voting for issues and things that impact their lives so we won't see so much division on political affiliation and partisanship. they will vote for the candidate they feel will make sure they are having their rights in line.

host: i want to show you a clip of melania trump, the former first lady talking about her book and her position on abortion and i will have you respond. [video clip] >> i believe in individual freedom. i want to decide what i want to do with my body. i don't want government and my personal business. i think it is very important. it is a very well explained in the chapter, what does really it might body my choice mean. i reach people to read it because we live in the world that everybody should have

individual freedom. host: it was interesting about this in the book before a presidential election. >> that was not written in the last week or month. that book was written months before and it was in print months before so it is my belief and i wanted to put it in a book because i want to be authentic and i want people to read the book because they could find out a lot of things that have never been discussed. i am very selective at what i do and whether i am doing interviews or not and this is my story and my perspective and the truth.

there is a lot of misinformation about me and written about mia. so that book, "melania" will bring the truth. host: how do you think president trump will handle this? guest: he knew my beliefs and knew it would be in the book. he let me be who i am and believe what i believe. he lets me me in own person and hate respects that i respect that. i let him be his own person. host: what do you make of that? guest: i believe she is communicating with many people believe it is that women should have autonomy and personal agency and can have the right to

make those decisions. what we are hearing and seeing is the issue about health care with access to abortion is not a political issue what about women having the right to make choices for themselves and she said that very quickly. host: are you advocating for any restrictions? guest: we advocate for the bodily autonomy and women to make choices for her own self. we think that should be left between a women and hurt medical provider. we not state restrictions but support full access to abortion rights and what that means for that person. host: let's take calls. lets talk with donald in west virginia, independent. caller: i would just like to know why your organization will not stand up against men in women's sports. guest: thank you for the

question. we don't believe -- well, first of all, we believe women who identify as women are women and i want to say that clearly. so one of the court issues, -- core issues, that includes transit women. we are going in as transgender has been inclusive that it is inclusive of all women and how they identify. it is not our job to tell a person how to buy but our job to protect women's rights from harm and oppression or violence occurring. host: in maryland, democrats. caller: two questions.

is this the best opportunity you feel for a woman to become president and what do you think abortion rights are going to play in this election? guest: thank you for the questions. i believe this is a great time for a woman to become president. we are seeing huge momentum across party lines, voter turnout, young voters coming forward, and voters are excited about the change and the possibility of electing a woman to office. the candidate we have now is important. we need to agree that women have always found they have leadership skills and have demonstrated it before and this is the time we need to support

women and show them that we back them and as for your second question, abortion will be an issue and we know there are 10 initiatives in different states to try to enshrine abortion rights into their constitution. this is an important issue. 60% of voters. women should have a choice and it will be a major issue this election. host: some women are very focused on immigration and border security. you believe that the errors-walls proposals are enough -- harris-walz proposals are enough? guest: i think they do have some on immigration and safety. they want it for all women and

what safety and security it looks like in different forms. i would say that there will be nothing a perfect fix in the very beginning but the clans -- plans are clear and we have to believe in their plans and give them an opportunity to show how they plan on securing and protecting and making sure it is inclusive with humanity and dignity. host: this is charlie in jonesboro, arkansas, republican. caller: with all respect, i would like to say when bill clinton did his improprieties with monica linsky, none of the women's organizations said anything about that. bill clinton exposed you for being a hammer for the democratic party to hammer on your democratic opponents. you people aren't serious.

what would you say to a regular citizen who did what he did? i feel like people would be met if it was a republican. guest: first i would say that i can't speak for what happened before i became elected president of the organization but what i can say is we have always been for ending violence against women consistently. we have always spoken out about that. that is what we do as an organization and we want to believe that victims and survivors and we will believe them. host: nancy in ohio, democrat. caller: good morning.

every organization has been getting complaints about voter suppression. have you been getting calls and complaints on voter suppression? guest: we are not a voter protection organization but what we do know is there are a lot of laws that suppress the vote and women are one of the main groups that are marginalized and have received their votes being oppressed the most. for our work with women's organizations, it is important we are doing everything in our power to advocate for legislation that will help advance voting rights and protections including free and fair election access, eliminating voter suppression rules in different states. i want to say that we support

making sure everyone is informed and that is making sure people are communicating and let people know your informed and creating a voting plan and reaching out to voter protection plans when you find whose votes are being suppressed think it is really important. it is work with all have to do to make sure we are protecting our votes and we will continue to do that and we do understand the importance of women and making sure is challenged. host: do you think women specifically get their votes suppressed more than men? guest: yes, i do. and the reason i say that is because women are a marginalized group. and when we look at certain groups of women, not all women, but we look at those who are getting votes suppressed and

some states required id laws where your name has to appear a certain way. avoid all women who have had changes in their name due to family dynamics, when you have the restrictive voter id laws, it has a large impact on women. that is one way we definitely see that. and because of the hours and polling locations, we know that women also are a lot of times working full-time and of the breadwinners of their homes and trying to work and manage childcare if they choose to have children and also working and having a job. we don't have affordable childcare and it was women in a position to not be able to exercise their vote.

and when we eliminate polling locations and not make assessable mail-in ballots for early voting, all of those are different ways that voter suppression occurs and has major impact on women. host: i want to ask you about senator jd vance and that he shrugs off criticisms over sexist comments that have dragged down his favorability. what is your response? how did you feel when you heard his comments about maybe people with biological -- without violence with children shouldn't have the same access in determining the country's future? guest: he has demonstrated a disregard and respect for women by making an statement and comments and misinformation

about women and hyperbole they are using to try to convince people. i think it does not surprise me based on past comments but i think it is more important than ever to continue the challenge and correct the misinformation and statistics and data that say that jd vance is not being honest in trying to create panic and chaos. host: dennis in maryland, independent. you are caller: next. caller:-- you are next. caller: i heard a guy called and asked what do you think about women in sports that men that identify as women in sports. i heard you say that as long as they identify as a woman that that is fine with you and i have no problem with that but to each his own.

my wife is a woman and she has an issue, not a problem, but in issue and whenever somebody says something about it i think it is a problem but it is an issue. your issue is, ok, if she is out with my daughters in the go in the bathroom and you have a guy that wants to use a bathroom because he says he is a woman so you are ok with all of that is what i am hearing. that doesn't take away from europe women's movement or whatever. and i heard you also say something about the violence and i'm not even saying anything about violence. what i'm saying is your movement, so if i could tell you i am a woman and you could -- i could join your organization? guest: our organization is a

feminist organization and that is that we women deserve equality and equal rights in the country and globally. our organization is not just made up of women. we are called the national organization for women because we are for advancing women's rights and equality. we have members who are men and we have a diverse membership and we believe if you are for advancing women's equality and protections in safety then you can be a part of now. and your beliefs in the bathroom, i want to make sure we don't buy into misinformation about trans individuals and believing that they are statistics saying harm is created. it is part of the fear rhetoric about trans inclusion and we have to push back against that.

there are no statistics and information and research that says that trans individuals will become harmful in the bathrooms. and we have many places going to engender neutral bathrooms. i think the question of trans inclusivity and part of the movement when it is inclusive because we believe in supporting rights and that is something we don't want to go in that direction. host: he mentioned sports. there are people that believe there is inherent unfairness when you have a man's body even if you identify as a woman competing with a woman who has a woman's body. guest: i have heard that quite often. i think they are exaggerating what can happen. there are rules and regulations

and it is not that simple where people feel they are fearful of what they think will happen with trans inclusion in sports and i just don't believe that is the case. i believe that is for title ix and the courts and reporting organizations to decide if there are rules for having inclusivity. host: caroline in baltimore, independent line. caller: i am calling in and a trans social worker and someone who has worked closely with pregnancy resource centers and i wanted to ask the guest about how now works to undermine the good work of pregnancy resource centers which offer support

services for women in unplanned pregnancies, everything from physical resources to emotional resources to parenting support before and after they have the baby and now has worked closely with planned parenthood to make abortion the number one issue and to rhetorically run legislatively undermine and destroy pregnancy resource centers which actually are doing good work of trying to help women in difficult situations. i think your organization has done a good job of sanitizing the language around abortion using euphemisms like reproductive health and not describing what happens in abortion which is that you basically offer women the knife, suction apparatus or poison pill and you don't offer them

resources to help them have their baby which is what most baby want -- most women want. i have worked with many women who only want support and live with the anguish of abortion for the rest of their lives, the market anniversary of the abortion and the baby's expected birth and coping women in crisis in pregnancies. guest: i would say that i want to be clear about reproductive rights and justice. it is inclusive of all reproductive health care, maternal mortality, internal health, hope and providing services and making sure women have decisions and making sure

they have maternal mental health access and access to ob/gyn care and birth control and that also includes family planning if you decide that is something that you want. let me to be clear, our position is for reproductive rights and justice and the woman has that decision to make for herself, she has the full autonomy to make the decision and also to act and that is what we support and will continue supporting that. i understand the importance of providing resources and we do a great job of doing with that and working with organizations for funding and making sure it is taking into consideration all types of productive -- reproductive services. host: let's talk to kelly, texas, republican.

caller: how are you doing? guest: i am great. how are you? caller: i am wonderful. what are your feelings on --, what are your feelings about facing discrimination and the jobs market. i have been out of work for just over three years. and i have a 23 years experience and i just want to know, what are your feelings on this? guest: we are not for any form

of discrimination at all and job discrimination would be against our core issues. if individuals are not allowed, women are not allowed to go out and get jobs that can help them thrive in support themselves and are discriminated against because of the difference, that is not what we are continuing to advocate for. and looking at the widening the gender wage gap. we know that is an area where we need to put more effort in and support behind. host: i want to ask you about an act called the take it down act that is pushing for passage. can you explain what it is and why you are supporting it? guest: one of the things we have seen over the past few years is huge increase in social media types of silence and what -- one

is artificial intelligence generated deepfake sexual abuse or nonconsensual sex imagery. we are seeing an outrageous rise in people taking images in people's likeness in taking snapshots or photos and making them into nonconsensual sexual images. this is a huge problem. and we know once it goes up it is extremely hard to take down. women are 90% -- 97% the victims in these deepfakes. there are thomas involved lots of issues and the take it down act is making sure everyone is being held accountable to push back on deepfakes and that includes holding platforms accountable and developers accountable for when this happens they will have to take those images down what it has been identified that it is a i.

host: this -- it is ai. host: this is an article that ai born should be a federal crime. they say deepfake fakes should be federal crime. guest: i think there should be different levels of crime but it definitely has to be federal that we push forward legislation because if we do not, right now there is no accountability and people can create images and walked past you and take a snapshot of your face and it allows them to create ai generated deepfake images. this is very dangerous. effects of sexual violence and assault online and in prison are the same on that person. and also research says when it happens on line the perpetrator

could start attacking the person in life. we cannot allow this to continue to happen. host: on the into patent -- on the independent line, you are next. caller: i have two questions. the first one is, if a woman has a right to do with her body as she pleases, doesn't that make prostitution legal? host: and what is your other question? caller: i forgot it. i am 89 years old. host: that is ok. we will take that question. guest: women have a right to do with their body and in the industry what is considered sex work, it is not for us to tell people what they decide to do with their bodies but we continue to do say they have a

right to make decisions for themselves. so we have to keep going back to that. we don't want anyone telling us what choices to make him what jobs to choose, what choices to make regarding health care decisions or anything in our lives but for some reason we see everyone so strong and bringing up charges and interrogating women and this is where we have to stop. a person has the right to make decisions for themselves. it helps increased them to be productive and we do not need to be the ones for anyone who stands in the way of taking away that autonomy. host: kathy in michigan, republican line. caller: i want to respond to the other colors question. the biden-harris did say that

people do not have a choice to put the vaccines in their body that is not what i called about. there was a girl up in virginia that was raped by a trans man and a high school bathroom and what about the two movement we are tara reid, biden's rape accuser, she didn't get very much airtime. what about kamala harris' husband who supposedly got a nanny pregnant #and what about abortion. in luke, the baby leapt in the numeral and that is a baby when it is in the room. and first peter and luke and the

sixth commandment, thou shall not murder. i could go on and on. romans 13, genesis, -- host: we will take that up. guest: i will keep going back to the same thing that it is not our decision to make choices for anyone. it is a decision to live how we want to live, believe what we want to believe. we have to also allow women to make choices for themselves and that ability to make those choices and we have to also be careful to not use fear rhetoric that is not supported by research and documentation and taking things and exacerbating them here to create fear and all it does is create more damage and a place where people are

suffering more and people take things into their own hands. want to continue to create opportunity for equality and empowerment and justice for all. host: in philadelphia, daniel, line for democrats. caller: i have three teenage daughters going to college. i want to point out that many of the bathrooms in colleges and universities are coed and the kids don't have a problem with that that i haven't noticed. i also want to ask why it is not regulated who can compete in competitions. what is it up to congress and the government to get involved in colleges and university exports. guest: i can't really tell you information behind sports.

that is not my level of expertise about what i will say is that when we have federal legislation in place, it provides a baseline for everyone to make sure there is framework to follow and guidelines to uphold to. if we don't create federal legislation, what we see happening in different states were some people are experiencing so much oppression and discrimination because of the laws being passed. having a federal law would guarantee there is a thorough guideline and process that has been vetted to pass policies that will benefit people's lives and not -- and that is what is important to get federal legislation. host: want to ask you the article with the headline come here's an tim walz lose ground with women in minnesota, and tim walz is the governor of

minnesota. it doesn't cite what poll they're talking about but former president donald trump may be winning back support from some women while vice president kamala harris has won over some male voters. i wonder what you make of that. why do you think some women are turning away from vice president harris? guest: that is a great question. vice president kamala harris has demonstrated that she is for the rights of women and protecting freedoms and guaranteed freedoms. i have not read this for myself and cannot make much comment but it is also important for us to make sure if we want representation and see that someone is standing up for us and our rights and values that we do everything in our power to get out and vote and make sure people are turning out for her and educating people about her policies and platforms and that they are making informed decisions that are factual

instead of falling into the disinformation. host: john in california, republican. caller: i had a question. we all know there is a mass influx of new women coming into the country over the last four years. does she feel that christians should have the right to vote in the upcoming election and also how does she feel about all the female children that have been lost in the system coming over the border and are you doing anything to protect them? guest: i thank you for the question. the first question, i would say that laws have to be in place. it is not our position that

anything should be changed to give women extra privileges. we are trying to advocate and educate that women don't have the same privileges. women are suffering and experiencing inequality from different levels. before we get to a place of high quality, resources have to be provided. everyone needs to follow the voting rules and laws and that has to change and we are not expecting women to have different standards set but we want women to have access to the ballot and be able to have safe access and not worrying about losing their jobs. as for the second question -- i

am sorry. host: children who cross the border. guest: we know that did not take place under the biden harris administration. caging of children and children being lost in the system all took place under the trump administration when we had the cruel and inhumane treatment of the trump immigration policies he was putting in place. so i remember that time. we launched a campaign regarding missing children and women and children being treated humanely" when they were coming across the border. immigration reform is important but it has to be done with dignity and care and has to be done with people being protected and not full of xenophobia and

hate. host: maria in georgia, democrat. caller: good morning. i would like to address to your guest, you cannot please everybody. you know when a man gets dressed up and goes to a woman's bathroom, they are still a man. if i get dressed up right now as a man, i am still a lady regardless of how masculine i at. this is totally ridiculous. it is just like halloween. you dress up, you come home and you go back to your normal self. you need to stop. the truth is the truth. you are how you are born regardless if you are feminine, they are still a man.

if you aren't masculine, you are still a woman. they are still males. this is ridiculous. you cannot please everybody. host: all right, maria. guest: we have a text from dan in pennsylnia sing why should taxpayer funding be used on transgender health issues -- from dan is saying why should taxpayer funding be used on transgender health issues? guest: a lot of things are coming up about inclusivity for trans. we have a court issue we started about a and we have to keep in mind when we are talking about women and fighting for them, i would like to point out that the oppression that women feel, we

can understand the oppression in our job is to look at the approach of how these may affect women. we have women who identify as lesbian and women -- men who identify as trans. it is not for us to determine. our job is to make sure we are creating an environment and a world where they can live safely, authentically and freely on their own and not have the continued push back. we understand that not everyone will support our position but this is what we take because women have long been and continue to be under attack for our gender and where we stand. there is no way we will be a part of creating oppression in gender and discrimination for marginalized communities. host: one more call from

margaret -- marvin in atlanta, republican. caller: is immoral for a young man to go out and have sex with as many different women and on the other hand is it not immoral for that young lady to do the same thing? we are teaching people to be immoral. it is immoral to kill innocent people. when you are in that, you are different from the person. you don't have a right to kill. people saying you have a right to kill people? host: let's get a response. guest: thank you for your question. i will say there are different opinions about whether or not -- first off, no one is being killed.

we are not advocating for killing, we are advocating for a person to make choices for their lives and advocating, and that makes absolutely include abortion rights and access but it also may include choosing to have a family and may also include taking birth control pills and various things and ivf that we advocate for. we are advocating for your right to have bodily autonomy and choices. we have constantly heard the rhetoric about murder and killing and things like that, but this is all a strategy to make people fearful and make people think the worst. that is not what is occurring. i will give you statistics on

abortions, abortions generally happened within the first 13 weeks. over 80%, closer to 90% happened within 13 weeks. so we have to think about that and we understand everyone has different viewpoints but we have to continue to look at, if you do not want them making choices for you, it is not your job to make choices for them. host: christian nunes, president of the national as a stripper women. think for joining us. we will continue our conversation on the role of women in campaign 2024 with penny young nance, president and ceo of concerned women for america. that is after the break.

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campuses and doing prayer vigils for israel. we have been around since 1979 and i didn't hear all the conversation you had with the last guest but the antithesis of their perspective on many things including the life issue including men and women's sports and transgender issues playing out right now in politics. we are unapologetic and working hard to get out she women to vote in this election and are very grateful to be here with you. host: you also have a concerned women for america legislative action committee. tell us about that and with the objectives are. guest: anytime you have a nonprofit educational association but a c4 is the ability to be able to lobby specifically on pieces of

legislation. and the hardest part to raise is the gives that people give you that are not tax-deductible. that lobbying and more election things you have to have a c4 or aipac to do those things. host: have you made -- for a pa c. host: has the organization endorse a candidate? guest: we don't but it is generally on an individual basis. we were on the road 10,000 miles in a giant pink boss in 12 battleground states urging women to get out and vote in particular women of our ilk. we went to estates, just looking

at the place between a half-point and 1.5 points different -- we went to states, just a knee at different places, between half a point to 1.5 points different. we have been clung on women to make sure they vote. host: he wrote an op-ed with the headline female voters in battleground states care about far more than just abortion. what did you find when you talk to the women regarding their concerns about abortion rights and also other issues. guest: we are a pro-life organization and are happy to talk about that issue and we think at this point what we are talking about is not a federal ban on abortion but what is happening on a state-by-state basis. with the overturning of roe versus wade, what could finally happen is we could go by state-by-state and have the

conversation with women about what are their believes in the science behind abortion. we know that at 15 weeks which is where a lot of the conversation has been that a little baby girl and her mother's womb has all of her major organs, fingernails and eyebrows can hear her mother's voice and respond and feel pain. the vast majority of women are not in line with tim walz and kamala harris because they support late-term abortion and will not tell you when there are limits in minnesota, no limits. they even went to the trouble and this is absolutely true and there's been conversation about it, the truth is and i have it on my twitter feed that guttmacher institute which is a research arm of planned parenthood says that in minnesota a little baby girl or boy is born in a botched

abortion they receive no care and went to the trouble and we know at least eight babies went through this in one year until they change the law so they don't have to report it anymore. the other side is very extreme on this issue. what we are talking about now is what does your state think and that is give more control to the voter. host: you said you're not in favor of a federal ban. guest: i said at this point it is not on the table for republicans. host: what do you believe about that? guest: i personally would agree with a 15 week abortion ban. i i believe in protecting lives but at this point, this is where we are and what is important to know is the other side, kamala harris wants there to be no limits on abortion and i wish

someone would have asked her how she feels about taking down limits. the bill she supports is one that strikes down women all over the country. if you live in texas we would have the same laws as california. host: we are going to take your calls for penny young nance of concerned women for america. republicans (202) 748-8001, democrats (202) 748-8000, an independents (202) 748-8002. there are 10 states that have abortion measures on the ballot this november. do you think that is going to draw more women to the polls especially in those swing states? guest: i know that is part of the conversation. i found when i traveled to those same states was the number one thing that came up over and over again no matter what state we were in was the economy, the fact that there has been so much

inflation. women feel insecure in the ability to provide for families at the same level they could four years ago. they are very concerned about the price of food and gas. that was an ongoing issue. they talked a lot about credit card debt, the fact that they are living in a situation that they have never faced before. the other issue that came up with safety, very concerned about what is happening at the border. currently looking at the statistics of what is happening around the country. crime is on the rise around the country and the fact that there are local education systems and services that are stressed. that is a big issue that came up. the third issue i heard everywhere i went was the issue of women's sports and whether or not, and i know a caller called

in for your other guest. the truth is that women in america, mothers recognize the fact that there are two genders. when your daughter wants to play sports, it is not fair. she should have her own locker room in her own restroom. women deserve to have safety in prisons. domestic violence shelters, women deserve a safe spaces. the fact that women all over this country are taking their daughter to early morning to swim team or track practice and now they are having to face boys on sports teams was not working. host: in your op-ed you wrote my organization exists to protect and promote biblical values and constitutional principles and we encourage members to vote for candidates who will honor and advance those values. how do you define those biblical

values? not everybody agrees on which biblical values should inform their vote. guest: all the biblical values should inform your vote. what would you specifically be referring to. host: caring for the poor and needy and refugees. guest: i think policy is what we are talking about, which candidate best supports the policies you believe in that you want to promote. have a system of at this point where it is a two party. you are down to two candidates and which is more in line with your values? which is why going to be able to help your host: let's go to calls and start with sharon in minnesota. democrat. hi, sharon. caller: good morning, mimi.

great to hear your voice and thanks for the conversation. i just want to tell this lady, thanks for the morning laugh. when you just said that you honestly believe that trump will never enact an abortion ban. if we have not learned anything in the last, what, six years with this man, it's that he cannot, does not, will not ever, ever tell the truth. and so anybody that believes that he will not do this is crazy. and i feel sorry for her and anybody that believes this. host: but, sharon, she wants a national abortion ban, though. caller: i know she does. but she also just said that she believes trump will not enact it. that's what i'm saying. that is crazy. because trump will do it. and, ladies, get out and get the vote for kamala harris. we are going to kick his rump. host: all right. i want to show you, penny, i

don't know if you wanted to respond to that. nbc news poll of registered voters, the split between men and women voters. so among men, 40% are supporting harris. 52% for trump. among women, it's 58% for harris and 37% for trump. what do you make of that gender spread? why so much more support among women for vice president harris? guest: well, this isn't new. republicans tend to do better with married women. democrats tend to do better with single women. we know that at this point there's a split between women who have graduated from college and women who have not graduated from college. and so it's going to be interesting. yes, there's a gender gap. but not in every segment. and so looking at the overall polls, you know, especially in the battleground states, it is between .5% and 1.5% in every single one of those polls with

pennsylvania being a dead-on tie. so, you know, she's right that she needs to -- harris needs to turn out her ilk of women and we're working to turn out conservative women. host: here's tina in spokane, washington. republican, hi, tina. caller: hello, good morning, ladies. i just want to say that i'm praying very hard that we get president trump back in the white house to make sense of all the damage that has been done by the biden-harris, you know, white house. and i just -- i don't talk about abortion but i would love if trump would do something about that. but the main thing is the economy and the border and let's face it. kamala harris was the border czar and look at the job she done. i just don't trust the lady. i would never trust a democrat these days. in my father's days, democrats

were very, very different. and i don't trust the democrats one bit. host: tina, when you say in your father's day, what democrats did you trust then? what time period was that? guest: no names but my father was born in 1919 and he lived for 90 years and he used to say, he came from a family of democrats and it was different back then. now it's just a lot of lying, a lot of telling stories to the voters so they'll get the vote. and then they just renege on everything that they've said they would accomplish in the white house. i just don't trust the -- i've never signed up as a democrat. i've been on the independent party before. but nowadays it's complete mistrust, lies, and they'll say anything to get in the white house. host: all right, tina. guest: i think it's so interesting those two different callers, right?

you have staunch republican women that are conservative women and she seemed pretty enthusiastic about her vote and i ran into a lot of those women on the road. and, yes, john f. kennedy is different than today's democrats. i think we really have seen this specifically on foreign policy. we've seen what happened after hamas invaded israel and murdered 1200 israelis, over 40 americans. we have seven americans that are still being held hostage right now in gaza and you've seen this little portion, i'm certainly not tarring the entire democratic party with it, but it is a very vocal group that are on campuses and around this country actually supporting hamas and bringing out hamas flags and you have a.o.c. and tlaib and the others.

it's a very vocal group within the democratic party and that is a change. that's a new thing. and so i think -- and you've seen that kamala harris has had to really try to balance that in dealing with michigan. because there is a lot of more arab americans there and they've been trying to placate that vote. but it's not working. in fact, i should tell you that i just -- i was just at an event, because we just passed october 7, the 1-year anniversary, i was at an event for that and i was speaking to a lot of jewish americans who are not republicans and they were predicting that donald trump was going to get 40% of the jewish vote. which in 2020 was only 30%. so we'll see. host: let's talk to linda in apple valley, california. independent. caller: hi. my question for you has to do with how the president can be responsible for the prices of the products that we see on the

shelves in our stores. guest: ok. basic economics, you know, some of this is just what happened with covid. i don't think any of us will argue that this black swan event didn't require some government intervention. but there was so much money that flooded the market, covid money, some of which that wasn't even ever really used appropriately. and prices increased. so that was because of, you know, the ability to bring in goods from other countries. supply chain issues. the president certainly have impact on government money that floods the market, again, some of that washed out but the prices never came down. and certainly the president has to do with what happens with the supply chain. host: i want to ask you about

the i.v.f. former president trump has called himself a leader in i.v.f. this is "the new york times," that the southern baptists have voted to oppose the use of i.v.f. they consider those embryos fully human, that could possibly be destroyed. so where are you on that? where's your organization? guest: we do not have a position on i.v.f. just like we don't have a position on birth control. this is a matter of conscience between women and -- in their faith. catholic women feel very strongly one way, protestant women tend to view it a different way. but what i will say is that in the united states we have about a million frozen embryos and parents aren't necessarily told that, -- really all the details, what the cost of maintaining those are. and certainly i don't -- we don't think that it's just

simply genetic material. there is a potential life there. but -- and it shouldn't be treated like trash or garbage. you had not too long ago one of the centers that housed them had a power outage and all of them -- host: this was in alabama. guest: were lost. yes. it's a really important issue that i think we're kind of grappling with. it's a new issue. but donald trump has said that he doesn't -- he's not against i.v.f. host: and you agree with him? guest: i agree -- i think there needs to be some limits on how it's dealt with. in australia and new zealand, there's limits. you can't make 100 embryos from one woman. that's not normally what happens. but there has to be limits on your willingness to use what you create instead of just freezing it forever. host: independent line from ohio. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for your time. it's really refreshing to see someone on the other side for a

change. i have seven points to make and i'll make them very earthquakel. how abortions effect all of us. first of all, it effects us by the person who, when we cast a vote and approving an abortion, even though we think it's somebody else's body and not our problem, as a voter we've approved it. second point is, it impacts families. that's families on both sides. the father and the mother. and not just her body. the third thing is the doctors and nurses who are forced to perform the abortion, maybe against their will or their morals. the fourth thing is the insurance companies who have to provide the benefits and pay the claims. which has taxpayer -- has the taxpayer involved. if they want it or not. the sixth point is the grief and regret that a lot of mothers have after they've had an

abortion and i've known these people and every single year, the day that baby was taken or aborted, they feel that they've probably done something wrong and it effects their mental health. mental health is paid by the insurance company. and the seventh point is these were future taxpayers. at 60 million future taxpayers that will never pay into the system. social security is paid by taxpayers. we -- the generation before pays for the generation after. if we don't have these people in the workforce, all these people we've aborted, then when you get to be 65 or you have infirmities and you can't take care of yourself and there's no money for you, what are they going to do? exterminate you after you're 65? i'm just saying, it effects everybody. host: all right.

guest: you hear the passion in her voice and i think it's a mistake sometimes in mainstream media that they view women as monolithic on the issue. we certainly are not. we don't vote on just whether or not it's a man or a woman. we're not voting just on gender. in fact, i think if that were the case hillary clinton would have been elected president. women vote based on issues. she was very passionate on the life issue. and where trump trump may not be where she is, kamala harris certainly isn't where she is. the other side, the harris-walz ticket believes that abortion should be legal any time, any reason, any number, all paid for by the taxpayer in all 50 states. they are the people that want a federal policy on abortion. host: penny nance, this is keith in virginia, who is an independent voter, who is asking you this. what is your stance on the death penalty? because the hypocrisy of, quote, pro-life christians who want a ban on abortions but support the

death penalty is something that needs to be discussed. guest: we don't have a position on that. but i would not equate someone who is a criminal with an unborn baby who is completely innocent. host: here is vice president kamala harris on a podcast earlier this week. she's asked about president trump's stance on abortion and his views about women. and i'll have you respond. >> at a rally in pennsylvania, former president trump recently told women, you will be protected and i will be your protector. what do you make of that? >> so, he who, when he was president, hand-selected three members of the united states supreme court with the intention that they would undo the protections of roe v. wade, and they did just as he intended and there are now 20 states with trump abortion bans, including bans that make no exception for rape or incest, which we just

discussed. which means that you're telling a survivor of a crime of a violation to their body they don't have a right to make a decision about what happens to their body next, which is immoral? so this is the same guy that is now saying that? this is the same guy who said that women should be punished for having abortions? this is the same guy who uses the kind of language he does to describe women. yeah, there you go. host: your response. guest: well, a number of things. i think what women are worried about as far as being a protector is what's happening around the world and the fact that the united states is right now being threatened by china, by russia, by iran and all of iran's proxies, terrorism is a very real threat in america. i'm old enough and you're probably old enough to remember

9/11 in which americans died. the deep grief and trauma of that never leaves you. and women who are old enough to remember that understand that we're just one mistake -- the bad guys can get it wrong every time but our guys have to make one mistake and people die. and so i think that we need a leader who is respected, who is even perhaps slightly feared around the country -- around the world and we need strong leadership. nobody's going to worry about kamala harris. putin's not going to respect kamala harris. xi is not going to respect kamala harris. the ayatollah certainly isn't going to respect and fear kamala harris. so we as women are not choosing a pastor or a husband, we're choosing a bodyguard. we expect our president to be a strong leader, to be able to help our country thrive as far as the economy goes.

we need better jobs, we need better pay, our pay is not kept up with inflation. and we expect to have respect for the unique dignity of women and that is not what their ticket is offering. host: the vice president mentioned the states deciding on abortion limits. she did mention that there are states who will not have exceptions for rape or incest. do you support that? guest: well, i support the rights of the state to choose that. c.w.a. has supported federal legislation that has rape, incest exceptions. certainly individually you talk to young women who are victims of rape that are still pro-life. you talk to -- we have members who are the product of rape. the babies are innocent. however, as far as policy goes, and in our country there's

widespread support for rape and incest exceptions. that is not on the table. host: but in some states it is. and if the states are deciding -- guest: very limited. host: and this is ronda, tucson, arizona. democrat. hi, ronda. caller: good morning. i just wanted to ask penny what she proposes to do with all these children that she said would be brought into the world if there weren't abortion, as far as i see it the republicans have gone, you know, we've taken down things like w.i.c. you talk about people that are on welfare and need government assistance. yet you talk about how much you love the lord and it's biblical and help thy neighbor but i don't see it in the policies that are coming forth. so what is it that you're going to do to help all these babies that you want born, that are not

aborted? i also would like to say that i found it very interesting, your comment about treating embryos like trash and garbage and throwing them away. yet you can sit and talk all this mess about immigrants, both legal and illegal, because you lump them all together. migrant. and how are they treated? you would rather protect an embryo than a true human life here in america. guest: that's not true. that is absolutely false. that is not what i said. and nor do i think that. we have to care for the least of these. whether it's someone who is here legally or illegally. however, we have to have borders. there's 300 americans a day who are dropping dead from fentanyl. we know those components are coming over from china into mexico and being brought over illegally over our borders.

we have to stop that. i think every one of us knows someone, a family that's been touched from the fact that someone has overdosed, someone has died. i know several someones. and so, yes, we need to respect everyone. i respect life. when -- no matter who you are, no matter what your physical capability or mental capability is or where you come from or your socioeconomic level. the answer can't be you're inconvenient, therefore we are going to get rid of you and we're going to abort you. that can't be the answer. answer has to be we welcome life and by the way, i will say that as people like me that are the people that overwhelmingly adopt, we're twice as likely to adopt children and three times more likely to be foster parents. we are the people that care. the quick fix is the group that says, get your abortion an move on the way. we don't even want to be there for your follow-up care. that's wrong.

host: carol anne in piney point, maryland. good morning. republican. caller: hi there, good morning, ladies. i was just listening to the caller before you and she kind of was the reason why i changed from democrat of almost 30 years to be a republican. it is the false information that is put out there of scare tactics to the women that if they are pregnant and -- we're going to strip all your rights, we're going to take everything away from you. that's not what anybody's saying. i am all for them having some type of -- i'm sorry, that woman made me to so upset. spewing so many lies that it confuses the women of america. i do believe that at a certain point in a pregnancy, absolutely

it should not be terminated. when her comment about life, you know, people look at lifespans different in a pregnancy. but myself, i look at it when the pregnancy is viable and -- but the child can feel and it is a baby. no matter what people are saying. but harris definitely targets people's fears. the democrats have done that a very long time. when i started to open my mind to listen to other people, not be so close minded, is really when i changed from democrat to republican. guest: one thing i wanted to add, we're working very hard, in fact, our top life priority right now is a bill called life.gov and it was introduced in the senate by marco rubio and

by diana harsh burger in the house and there's also several senate bills. they've passed this in florida and south dakota. but we spend $1 trillion a year in aid and social services for americans. and it's very difficult if someone's in a crisis pregnancy for them to really even know what all those resources are. so this is the idea that h.h.s. would maintain a website that would be searchable by your zip code or by your state and you'd be able to find out all the services available for you. whether it's your educational services or housing or health care or adoption or foster care, legal services. all those things that a woman might need or should know about, need to be easily accessed and they need to know what they are but they don't right now. the very difficult to find that out. host: renee in rietta, georgia, sent this on text.

guest: i believe that the state needs to stay out of the church for sure. and i actually think that who i'm representing are people whose faith inform every part of their life. she's welcome to believe what she wants to believe or nothing at all, certainly. but just because we're believers doesn't mean that we can't fully participate in politics and share our opinions. and certainly our opinions are formed by our religious beliefs. which i think probably is the truth for most people if you're religious in any way. host: let's talk to larry next. hi, maryland. democrat. caller: good morning. i have a couple of questions. one that really is perplexing me. is that you're a faith-based organization, you're an evangelical-related

organization. how can you back a candidate that's as amoral as donald trump? it absolutely is appalling to me secondly, you've been mispronouncing kamala harris' name all morning long. her name is nat kamala, it's kamala. it's a tactic that trump uses constantly. thirdly, you continue -- made a point earlier about peopling about aware of services that are available to them through the government. those services are extremely difficult to ascertain. you can ask any licensed clinical social worker in any state that works for state government and it will tell you that services are practically nonexistent or due to republican policies have been cut back significantly enough to where they're almost impossible to obtain. those are three questions i'd love to hear your guest respond to. host: all right, larry. guest: the last one first. i hope i can remember them all. to begin with, what i was just

discussing is the ability to ascertain what are the services. and i think the government, we're just seeing this with fema, they're good often at providing services but difficult -- it's very difficult sometimes to actually access them. i think the bureaucracy often gets in the way. and one of the reasons i wanted life.gov is i wanted to see where the holes are. there's some states that probably are missing several things. if we know what they are, then we can work to actually fulfill them and make sure it's more available. i did not on purpose mispronounce her name. i will tell you, there's a whole group of people in washington that when she came to town as a senator, i think we all learned to say her name the wrong way so it's hard to undo. no disrespect, certainly. then i don't -- oh, he doesn't like trump trump. well i, happen to like trump trump. i think he's -- donald trump. i think he's like every person. host: his point was that he's immoral. guest: he's imperfect as we all

are. jesus isn't running this year. we're not going to find the perfect candidate ever i guess is my point. host: i don't want to peek for him but i think the question a lot of christians have is that, you know, repen tans is a big part of christianity and kind of apologizing and changing your ways. do you think donald trump is a repen tent christian? guest: i don't think he's ever said he was a christian. i don't know what his faith. is i can't see his heart. i think he's imperfect like we all are. at this point we're voting based on the -- we're always voting based on the policies. regardless of what your faith is or not, regardless of what your sex is or not, we need to elect a leader who will stand for the things that we believe in, will lead our country in the right direction, will make us safer and make us more economically viable.

host: marie in maryland. independent line. you're next. caller: yes, i'm listening to -- my father always told us, don't say nothing, just sometimes sit and listen. what i'm hearing is that i'm not sure what's going on with women, i'm not sure if it's the woman -- the color of her skin or what, but i'm listening to this lady saying that you're going from state to state to promote a man who has been accused of sexual assault and you want him to advocate for women's rights? do you actually hear yourself? i don't think what you're doing is about the women. i think the bottom line is you really don't want this black woman to become a president. because i heard how your voice got so riled up when you started talking about kamala. donald trump to me has become the united states' greatest pimp and he's making america his who are. have a good day. -- whore.

have a good day. host: republican in new york. caller: good morning. i guess the biggest thing -- i'm not particularly happy with either candidate. i haven't actually made -- well, i know that -- i know i would not vote for harris because i believe the left has back to extreme -- become too extreme. i was a democrat for years and i did change. the thing i don't understand is why there's such a big deal over abortion rights when most unwanted pregnancies could be prevented. there's so many kinds of birth control. and that's always so confusing to me. we never hear about that. i had an unplanned pregnancy when i was very young but that was 50 years ago. i had my son. i just didn't feel right, even though it was legal, i didn't feel right terminating. but all these years have went by and i'm thinking, wow, i mean, i

never had another unplanned pregnancy. so it's just so confusing to me. you see these'ds about abortion -- these ads about abortions and i'm thinking, why don't people use birth control? host: any comment? guest: i thought it was so interesting what she was just saying about she had her son, an unplanned pregnancy. i have met women all over this country, i've net many, many, many who regret their abortions but i've never met one single woman who told me she regretted her child. even if she placed for adoption. by the way, there's 2,000 parents right now -- sorry, two million parents right now waiting to adopt. a lot of those parents are going to adopt internationally because there aren't as many children available in this country because abortion is more rampant. host: let's talk to nancy, myrtle beach, south carolina. democrat.

hi. caller: hi, thanks for taking my call. i have a question for your guest. she has said something in terption of abortion of -- termination of -- terms of abortion of innocent kids is different than murdering inmates who committed crimes. so let me let me try to understand this with republicans. murder is murder according to you. so how is that so different that will you take a woman's right to choose, make her choices for her body, versus someone who has complitted a crime -- committed a crime but has done their time or are serving their time but you decide to kill them, why is that any different? i don't understand how you can say you pick certain murders as

a crime or certain murders shouldn't -- people shouldn't be killed or should be killed -- host: we got it. go ahead. guest: that's -- the states decide that, right? the states decide criminal law. what i simply am saying, we don't have a position on the death penalty, but you can't equate someone who took the life of another human being, raped and murdered a child, versus an innocent child who has never done wrong. and i think the majority of people would probably agree with me on that. but let me say, i will say this one thing. i worked for prison fellowship ministries early on in my career and i do have concerns over the way that our judicial system imperfectly applies the law and i think we need to consider that, do a better job of that. and we certainly do have an imperfect system. host: we have a posting on x from sally who says that the u.s. has the worst maternal mortality rate among developed

nations. guest: we think we should use some of the money we're using for some of these left-wing policies and actually use it for maternal health. that is a very important issue. we encourage states to do the same. i just saw the data. what is it, $157 million we're getting ready to send to lebanon. i think that would be great to be used for maternal health. host: one more call and we'll talk to mike, wyoming, michigan, independent line. caller: actually, i am a conservative. i don't truly affiliate with any of the parties but i am a conservative by nature. it just seems that our culture, they say politics follows culture. our culture seems to be viewing things that are good as evil and that which is evil as being promoted that's good.

i have so many women in my family, immediate family, and they're all conservative. my extended family, i only know of one who is not conservative. and that covers my mother all the way down to my granddaughter. they all support independent thought. but my question is, where is our culture headed? because like i said, politics, they say politics follows culture and washington is broken. where did this dynamic, this change begin and how did it begin and what is your opinion? what is your opinion on the future of our culture in america and the culture worldwide? guest: that's a lot. that's a really big question. we are a less religious nation, no doubt, than we've ever been

before. there's more people who are unaffiliated, they have no religious affiliation or interest whatsoever. that's a growing number. it's even bigger within millennials and gen-z. i think this is the place for the church to step in and to help and build community and for pastors to reach out their hand to others and to not be content in their own little church building, but to go out in the highways and byways and bring in the lost and by lost i mean those that are the most broken, which are most of us by the way. host: i just want to close with this very quickly. this is a text from georgia. as conservative christians, what should our response be if kamala is elected? guest: well, the response is that you're a good citizen. the bible says render unto cesar things that are cesar and to god things that are god.

you try to help your neighbor. we're a strong country. we're a good-hearted country. we've withstood difficult times but i have to say, i am very concerned about the direction of the nation and certainly very concerned about what it will mean for families, for young families, for the economy, for safety, for the unique dignity of women, respect for women, to have the dignity of being safe in their dorm rooms, their locker rooms, certainly in domestic violence shelters and so on. so i think we as women need to speak up at this moment. this is our moment. host: all right, that's penny young nance. concerned women for america president and c.e.o. they're on the web at concernedwomen.org. thanks so much for joining us. guest: thank you. host: and coming up, it's more of your phone calls and open forum. the numbers, republicans, (202) 748-8001.

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republicans and penny nance in particular trying to eliminate the separation between church and state. i'm a jewish woman and the jewish faith believes that women have a choice about whether they want to have an abortion or not. and, for example, in the state of israel, women are -- not only are women guaranteed a right to abortion if they so choose, but the state pays for it. and, for example, the six commandments, the 10 commandments says thou shall not kill. jews do not believe that that pertains to a fetus. it pertains to people who are already born. so i think the christians who rely on the bible do not have the right to interpret the bible for jews. their interpretation may be that a fetus is a human being and so they can try to convince people that they shouldn't have an abortion but they have no right to impose their faith on us. for example, i do not believe that jesus christ is my savior, i do not recognize gee suft

christ as my savior. they do. and women should have the right to make a decision about their own bodies, that is what the jewish faith believes. and that is what the state of israel practices. host: independent in texas, good morning. caller: good morning. i would like to be able to get some concrete evidence, whether or not it's true or not true. donald trump calling this putin. and i'd also like to get some truth because i recall thousands of people were dying during the covid era under trump. whether or not -- did he not ship those equipments they're talking about in the news to putin. while americans were dying. i don't believe that such things as -- [indiscernible] -- i believe that donald trump is a

traitor to our country and i'm concerned that he's trying to pass on nuclear secrets to the soviet union. i believe that's why he kept that document. i believe he's an agent for the soviet union. host: to russia, you mean? caller: yes, man. russia. soviet union's no longer around. but i am concerned that he's an agent for russia. maga republicans, do you love your country? and what they're saying in the news media, if it's true, then i'm very concerned. host: a couple of things for your schedule for later today. it's 27 days until election day. democratic vice presidential nee tim walz is campaigning arizona.ernoon in chandler, with representative rubin gallego who is running for u.s.

senate in the state. jim mccain, the son of the late senator john mccain, is also expectbe in attendance. you can watchur live coverage starting at 2:00 p.m. eastern re on c-span, on the app, and online. and also this afternoon, 2024 republican vice presidential nominej.d. vance will speak to voters at an event in tucs, arizona. that coverage starts ve at 3:00 p.m. acialtion here on c-span, and later today at 7:00 p.m., republican presidential nominee donald trump hosts a campaign ral i redding, pennsylvania. our live coverage of all those even, at live coverage is at 7:00 p.m., but all of them are cpan, they're on our app, c-span now, and online at c-span.org. lauren, minnesota, republican, good morning. caller: good morning. i don't understand why women are

allowed to commit murder. abortion is murder. the democrats' religiousless abortion and climate change. all right, thanks, bye. host: vickie in maryland heights, missouri. democrat. hi, vickie. caller: hi, how are you doing today? host: good. caller: i'm calling because that last lady that was on, her name i guess was penny, which penny is easy to say. kamala is very hard to say. it was very disrespectful by what i was hearing. i want to agree with the gentleman who talked about donald trumping about in bed with putin. i mean, giving equipment over to russia when our people were dying here in our country, and i guess i just got to bring it

back to women's rights. we would never tell a man he can't have a vi sectmy -- vasectomy but we tell a woman she can't take control of her body when she's been raped or molested and put more trauma on top of her. i don't think men understand what it's like to be a woman and to be physically pinned down and be raped and then a child come out of that. it's trauma upon trauma and there are not enough social programs in this country to take care of all of the children. although i would love that. my state took away 168,000 food stamp recipients. 168,000. i was one of them. and so me and my kid, we rely on food basic and i'm a disabled -- bakes and i'm a disabled woman and i can't afford food but i'm sure in the heck not going to tell a woman what she can and what she cannot do with her body. that's between her doctor and

god. and i just hope america wakes up to see what is going on in this country. host: regarding the covid machines, this is nbc news is reporting this. kremlin reportedly confirms that trump sent covid test machines to putin, denies putin phone call since he left office. quote, no, that's not true, kremlin spokesman said when asked if trump and putin had spoken on the phone. you can read that at nbcnews.com. let's talk to diana, ohio. independent. caller: yes, hi. good morning. my son was -- we just talked to him last night. he was deployed from the miami coast guard base to drive himself up, i don't know how many were deployed from there. to the eye of the hurricane, they're going to hunker down

obviously during the hurricane itself. but they are there to step in and help fema and national guard and anybody else that's there. so that's another resource that i would take desantis has deployed them or asked for their help. the coast guard is there right now hunkered down and waiting to help as soon as they can. ok. thank you. host: also in ohio. rebecca is a republican. hello. go right ahead. caller: hello. this stuff going on all over again with russia and putin. and trump. everything was false last time. and now we have like the women's rights to abortion. it just went back to the states. they have the right to choose. the people of each state is supposed to be voting on it. it doesn't have anything to do

with president trump. it has to do with the american people. and this transgender stuff, if people want to talk about women's righting about destroyed, what about my rights as my granddaughters are in sports and they want to come and all of a sudden be in girls' bathrooms, that's ridiculous. that's hypocrisy. because they don't stand up for women on that but they stand up for women on abortion. it doesn't make sense to me. host: democrat from los angeles, you're next. caller: yes. i was trying to get through to the lady earlier because i really -- now, listen, i don't want to you hang up on me for saying this but i really think ex-president trump and jeffrey epstein were really, really good friends and when i say that it's because they're both billionaires. if you're a billionaire, you can disagree with me, but i think everyone else needs to stand down and take a thought here.

because billionaire guys, i mean, you want to hang around with guys you can relate to. i know at the 19th hole when trump was thinking about that wall, you know, he was really not thinking how much trouble it was going to be for us now because you can't put a wall in the rio grande. it's going to destroy stuff. he lied about they're going to pay for it, it's going to be on their side of the river. this guy's lied so much it would take big hardcover books to cover it all. they're going to be writing them. the worst thing now is this hurricane is going to destroy mar-a-lago today or tomorrow rather and i think we're going to be talking about something completely different. i wish madam president harris the best of luck. she is going to win. i think she's going to win 50 states. because i don't think americans really want to vote for treason.

and it's obvious he's a traitor. he just came out, he was talking to putin the whole time and sending him covid machines. please. host: all right. let's talk to william in weston, ohio, independent line. caller: how you doing, ma'am? i understand what is being said and what is being talked about over abortion. there are all kinds of debates going on. but there's male, there's female, there are world leaders, presidents and there are angels. by the divine power of god, granted all things that came into life and godliness through the knowledge of him who calls us into his own glory and excellence. that's in 2 peter, chapter 3. if they're going to debate over life or abortion happening, they need to check their facts and make sure their facts are straightforward.

thank you. host: darlene, logan, utah, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. when they talk about abortion, it really bothers me because if you have a woman who has an abortion, she's already made her choice by having sex. if she didn't make that choice to have sex, then abortion should be for someone who is raped or incest. thank you. host: kenneth, columbia, south carolina. democrat. good morning. caller: good morning. for the people that are saying that -- people having abortion after nine months, that really don't make no sense. you're really killing somebody.

but also, trump, we didn't have no problem saying all this stuff was going on, all these other presidents, and until he came onstage, then we decided to have these problems. all this racial tension, everything else started coming out. they say that -- [indiscernible] -- so if trump is saying what they're thinking, that means there's a lot of racial people in this united states. and until we get that problem solved, and people start doing and treating people like they should be treated, i think we'll continue to have this problem right here. but trump, he is a person that don't care for nobody but himself. and he has proven that over and over again. thank you. host: let's go to iowa, to the independent line. jo ann, good morning. caller: good morning. this is in reference to your previous guest about abortion.

i'm not going to make a judgment about why a woman seeks an abortion, whether it's financial, medical or emotional. that is her decision between her and her doctor. and i find it hard to understand how christians can support trump's biblical values of adultery, assault, lying, greed. also i wanted to mention that i wish that the woman, your guest, would have had some compassion for my children and grandchildren who were afraid to go to school, go to a shopping center, restaurant, even church because they're afraid that they'll be shot down by an ak-47 because the religious right loves their guns. thank you. host: and joan is in cleveland, ohio. republican. good morning. caller: good morning. can you hear me?

host: yes, we can. caller: oh, thank you. ok. the one thing i wanted to call in on is that we have the salvation army, you have the red cross, you have donations coming in from different places and the only thing that would be nice is if someone gave us a total like every day how much came in from the red cross and where it's going and who it's helping, how much came in from the salvation army. like, you know, we give money, but then we never hear where the money's going. and the other point i wanted to make is about this and the infants and killing them. if someone out there remembers years ago, there was a doctor and if everyone remembers, people that were very sick and didn't want to live, he was going and he had some kind of

potion or something and he was killing them and then they said, came up and i believe they took him to jail because he wouldn't listen. someone else may remember this better, but i'm saying, if you can't kill an older person that doesn't want to live and you can kill someone that says, my life is over, i just want to go because of what's happening to me, then how can we be in all honesty killing these babies? to me, killing is killing. no matter what side. be it the old or those that are not in good health, or the baby that has no chance at all, but he does -- or she does have a chance at a good life. so that's what i needed to say. host: all right, joan. and previous caller talked about guns. this is "politico." that says supreme court justices

seem inclined to ok biden's ghost gun rule. conservative justices look split on whether the gun kits rule goes beyond what congress allowed. that's in "politico." and sherri, minneapolis, democrat. good morning. caller: good morning. i just would like to know how -- my daughter had two abortions. she had he can topic -- ectopic pregnants. if they didn't do something for her, both mother and baby would die. so would it be better for two people to have died than to help one? i don't quite understand that thinking.

also, trump is my protector? i wouldn't allow that man anywhere near a female after the assaults. i don't understand. please help me. thank you. and have a -- host: and this is "the new york times" with the latest on that story. about bob word's boob -- woodward's book. it says -- host: edwin in georgia. independent. caller: yes. i would love -- i love the way you can instantly throw up there. i want you to put on the screen,

congresswoman virginia foxx, telling the reporter to shut up. i mean, that was something right there. you got a government person is telling the free press to shut up. and my point is that good luck everybody calling in to c-span that advertise themselves as unfiltered but try getting law that on the lines because the line is clogged up with people saying good morning to each other and asking mimi to tell how she's doing. host: roger from michigan. caller: what i want to say is abortion is murder because that is a live human body that can be able to speak, read, think. that person that gets aborted, if you did not abort that baby, could have been another president of the united states. or could have been a tech giant or could have been somebody in the science field that could have helped many, many people.

abortion is murder. it is murder toward a human being. i've looked at it many different ways. and i just can't grasp the concept of killing a child. how can a doctor actually have the woman have the baby and the doctor actually choke it half to death. that's disturb being. host: that is illegal for a woman to have a baby and then the doctor kill the baby. that's considered homicide. mary, bronx, new york. democrat. good morning. caller: good morning. i'm just going to tell people out there. that kamala harris is doing a wonderful, fantastic job, ok. and that people need to look at trump and i want to know is why is this man, ok, getting his due

justice with all the crimes and criminal activity that he has done over the course of these years? why isn't he in jail? why is he not -- why are people letting him talk down to people like this and saying all these nasty things about people which is not right? it's just not right. he's out there criticizing and making trouble for more people than is necessary. why is he doing all of this? it makes no sense. host: all right, mary. and that will be it for us today on "washington journal." we will be back tomorrow morning, 7:00 a.m. eastern time. in the meantime, have a great day and thanks for watching. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2024] ♪

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