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hurricane milton made landfall near siesta key and sarasota county. it moved quickly across central florida overnight producing significant flooding and damaging winds near its path. the storm didn't bring much destruction and damage, tornadoes, ravaged parts of the east coast of the state. flooding occurred on the west and east coasts. strong wind the last of the state especially in pinellas, hillsboro, manatee, sarasota county's. over the last 24 hours, heavy rainfall totals upwards of 10 to 15 inches has been observed across much of the tampa bay area, nature coast, spreading eastward along the i-4 core door near sanford. isolated pockets of up to 18 inches of rainfall were observed in pinellas and coastal hillsboro counties. five to 10 inches has been observed towards gainesville along eastern portions of the i-4 core door and south of the western i-4 core door towards arizona.

several red river's flood stage and major rivers continue along the hillsborough river, st. john's river, water levels are forecast to continue rising along north east and west central florida rivers and waterways with many forecast to remain within or reach moderate to flood stage over the next day or so. we had over 80,000 people that were into shelters overnight as the storm hit the state. we will better understand the extent of the damage as the day progresses. you have people out there assessing damage right now. first responders have been working all through the night to help people who were in distress . what we can say is the storm was significant but thankfully this was not the worst case scenario. the storm didn't weaken before landfall and the storm surge as initially reported has not been as significant overall as what was observed for hurricane helene. right now, it looks like

sarasota county at the most significant storm surge, likely somewhere between eight to 10 feet. with helene, we had 15 to 20 feet in taylor county. rescue missions have been underway throughout the night. state search and rescue teams and individuals have been rescued as of 6:30, national guard rescue teams have worked overnight and successfully executed rescues of families and pets on the west coast and from the destruction of the tornadoes in the central and eastern parts of florida. the guard continues to work into the morning. 31 rescue aircraft operational, hundreds of rescuers engaged in over 125 active missions in 26 different counties, 6500 soldiers are deployed throughout the state. florida fish and wildlife commission has made land and water rescues in pinellas, patapsco county. this descartes has also been engaged in search-and-rescue,

assisting with floodwater evacuations as well as damage assessment. there are currently 3.1 million accounts without power. there have been 635,000 restorations since hurricane milton hit florida. the areas that have the most significant outages as of this morning are hillsboro, 75% out, hardy, 97 percent out, manatee, 82% out, pinellas, 68%, sarasota, 75% out. of course there are 50,000 plus linemen that have been pre-staged. a lot of what they will do this morning is likely assess the damage and then begin restoration operations very quickly. we appreciate everyone in that fight because that's very important for a lot of people. cutting tops has begun. 320 acres are active in the field with over 350 pieces of

heavy equipment and trucks. 150 bridge inspectors were dispatched at first light and begun first inspections to open bridges across the impact areas. as i put in my executive order, residents have a right to be back in their homes as soon as the roadways are deemed safe. in tampa, they can be a bridge, howard franklin bridge have been expected, and are open. there is debris on the sunshine skyway as well as the courtney campbell. once that debris is cleared, we anticipate those bridges opening later this morning. other bridges are being opened as soon as the state inspections are completed. the tampa airport is reporting that repair and minimal damage and should be open no later than tomorrow. seaports are awaiting coast guard channel surveys to reopen waterside. as of now our initial assessment is they will likely be able to resume operations very quickly.

we still have a lot of school closures for today. floridians should just keep in contact with their local officials about what that will be. i would imagine a lot of the schools that were not necessarily in the direct path of the storm will be open tomorrow. it may take a few more days for some of the places that were harder hit. now as you survey damage and cleanup, please be cautious of hazards. we have post-storm fatalities almost every storm, and a lot of these fatalities are avoidable, so please be cautious of down power lines. don't touch them, don't remove debris entangled in power lines. stranded water can down power lines and other things, so be mindful and never walk through storm waters. standing storm water can also carry a bacteria that can lead to fatal infections.

this was responsible for a fatality following hurricane helene, so avoid wading through standing water. please use proper ladder safety, please use proper generator safety. do not operate the generator inside your home. it must be outside, a safe distance from doors and windows. is it emergency accommodation modules, available for those returning to their homes. or in need of other types of shelters. these models will continue to provide real-time hotel availability and lodging resources, making the experience easier for users. if traffic lights are out in your area, use caution and treat each light as you would a four-way stop. remember if you are going to use a chainsaw, be careful. we have mishaps on that after every storm. we are extending the hope

florida line for another two weeks, 24 hours, seven days a week. if you need assistance or resources post-storm, you can call18-33-get-hope. it's a program designed to help people find help following a disaster such as a hurricane. you can call the hope line and you can also visit the hope bus which will be in these areas of soon. there will be announcements about that. florida commerce and the state of emergency response team activated the business damage response survey in response to hurricane milton. business owners can self-report physical and economic damage caused by the storm. businesses can complete the survey online at florida disaster.biz. florida commerce is also activating the small business emergency bridge loan program. we have $50 million available to florida small businesses. it is zero interest loans, very

flexible repayment options. you can apply for loans of up to $50,000 through the program. loans of up to 100,000 are available for agriculture and aquaculture small businesses and loans of 150,000 are available for citrus and cattle operations. again these are short-term zero interest loans. get the cash in your hand, repayment terms are very flexible. you can apply at www.flor idajobs.org/ebl. we have also activated the florida disaster fund for those who want to make tax-deductible charitable contributions that will be used to help floridians who are in need. you can go to florida disasterfund.org if you have any questions. we will continue to support all remaining rescue missions that are underway, that may be needed

in the near future. we will also continue to assess the damage that was done from the storm. we also anticipate that because of the amount of water, you may see flooding happened not just now but in the subsequent days. i think everyone responded quickly. proud of everyone's hard work. we got more work to do but we will absolutely get through this. ok, kevin guthrie. >> morning, everyone, governor, thank you for your leadership, time and again. you and the state of emergency response team will lead the charge as we respond and recover from the storm. hurricane milton officially made landfall. the impacts of the storm are still being felt across north, east, central florida, even now as that last banding train moves

offshore. if you are in those areas of northeast florida, space coast, make sure you are shelter-in-place until officials determined it is safe for you to leave. in the first 72 hours after a storm, there is a parable effort to search, secure, and stabilize the area. as search efforts continue, please do not go out and visit the impacted areas. you will be inhibiting first responders by doing so. right now, we need the roadways clear for electrical crews, fire crews, ems, urban search and rescue crews. we have 20 something teams that will move into the area and do a door by door search, even though as he heard the governor say, this was not the worst case scenario, we still had damage. we still have to go door-to-door to make sure everyone is ok. please stay off the roads. listen to your local authorities on updates on when it is safe to go outside and when it is saved to return to your homes.

i know a lot of people evacuated and we appreciate that. do not be in a hurry. check in with your local emergency management agency, sheriff's office to see if they are posting anything on if it is safe to return home. as the governor said, we will open up roads and bridges so that you can do so but there may be extenuating circumstances at the neighborhood level, so please make sure you are a before you come back home. major flooding continues along the hillsboro, st. john's, littlewood rivers. i want to take a moment to talk about there will be another phase to this particular incident, and that is very similar to hurricane ian. a lot of rain has fallen over the central portion of florida. the st. john's river basin that comes down into seminole county, portions of brevard, volusia county, up st. john's river, those headwaters have experienced a lot of rainfall.

that river takes about 45 day's itself out to the atlantic ocean. what we will be seeing first his impact in the seminole county and surrounding county area. then you will see that move into polanco, up into st. john's, flagler, do all counties. that will be a long-term effort when it comes to making sure people are monitoring the situation on the st. john's river, as well as the ones i mentioned, hillsboro. some roadways are flooded which is not a safe situation for anyone. please do not attempt to walk or drive through floodwaters. accidents and floodwaters are 100% preventable. all you have to do is turn around. if you shelter-in-place or return to your home and are looking at the damages around your home right now, do one thing for us. take out your phone and take pictures, inside and outside. all four sides of the house,

every room inside, the things you should be documenting. make sure you are documenting the physical damages but also since this was a flooding event, we want to make sure that you capture those high water marks on your home. do that inside and outside. for a point of reference, on the outside of the home, make sure to get the doorknob. that will give us a point of reference on how high the water got. the inside, make sure you have an electrical socket or light switch or door handle on the inside in the picture so we can get some type of reference as to how high the water is coming. if you are beginning the cleanup process, please ensure you are aware of the appropriate safety gear. do not attempt to clean up debris or down power lines. report all of that to your authorities. do not cut any lines. again, we don't need florida man or florida woman cutting random lines as they go. you don't know what is a cable

line, what is an electrical line, and more importantly these days, you don't know what is a fiber-optic line. most of our 911 lines across fiber-optic. we do not want anyone cutting lines. let the professionals identify what it is before it is cut. some roads are still dangerous due to flooding, debris, potential downed lines. let our crews get everything back up and running. for assistance after the storm, call the state as its its information line, 1-800- 342-3557. florida disaster.org for information on the web. of course, follow us @flscrt on facebook and instagram. that is the fastest source that we have. several people helping us out posting on social media. that will be the best place and

the fastest place to get something from us. thank you, governor. together, we will overcome the storm. >> morning, ladies and gentlemen. thank you, governor desantis for reestablishing and resourcing the state guard so we can deliver critical emergency response capabilities to the point of need. working alongside director guthrie, general haas, general young, the rest of the state agencies, personnel moving rapidly in order to save lives, rescue our citizens, and minimize human suffering. throughout the night and this morning, our special unit with search-and-rescue, canine, paramedic, swift water rescue teams moved throughout the most severely impacted areas between pascoe and sarasota counties. working with local authorities to provide on water and overland search-and-rescue and route assessment capabilities. our maritime unit is also

engaged with fw c, with 10 boat teams and high water vehicle teams in order to expand the capacity of the local counties and abilities to conduct waterborne reconnaissance and search and rescue operations. our aviation unit with blackhawks and drones, livestream and 3d map rendering capabilities will begin taking operation today in coastal and inland community areas in order to enable those authorities to paint a picture and focus their resources. we are laser focused on rescue operations today. >> good morning, everyone. i also want to thank governor desantis for his unwavering support during this time of critical need. we are fortunate and blessed to live in a state where the governor puts floridians first. i want to also thank the dm director kevin guthrie for his outstanding leadership.

for the coordination and communication with all state agencies, making us the leading -- leaders in the nation for emergency response. honor to be a part of the team. responding to hurricanes and natural disasters is what we do. we have unique equipment, training, and support to be able to provide immediate support in the wake of natural disasters and hurricanes. this is through the use of specialized equipment like boats, smart buggies, and other equipment to provide high water rescues. that's exactly what we are doing now. we have deployed 135 officers, teamed up with a florida state guard, division of finance service teams, florida national guard, miccosukee law enforcement, sheriff's office is up and down the coast and across the state, to provide search-and-rescue to those in need. specialized equipment across the state is hard at work right now.

our search and rescue efforts are ongoing. so far this morning we have reported over 42 rescues in several counties. in pinellas county, we had seven land rescues, three water rescues, several welfare checks. two arrested for looting. 21 rescued from an apartment building. these rescues started yesterday in the wake of the tornadoes. we had seven local officers responding to a tornado event where they rescued six and evacuated four 54 by four vehicles. in pascoe county, operations are ongoing, responding to multiple intersections, clearing trees and debris, allowing emergency vehicles to access storm damaged areas and responding to calls of service. in hillsboro, several people desisted from a vehicle and ditch, one pulled from a flooded vehicle. three individuals removed from a flooded apartment.

another 100 and evacuated at an assisted living facility. another 20 evacuated from a senior facility in tampa. again, these efforts are ongoing across the state, like director guthrie said, there will be flooding events across the state in central and northern florida. if you are in a flood prone area, be aware of this. our teams will be able to respond throughout the state. i want to thank governor desantis for his leadership and support. fwc is here to work with our partners to make sure floridians are safe during this event. thank you. gov. desantis: we will continue with the rescue operations as needed. a lot of damage assessments that will be going on today. we are obviously supportive of the power restoration operations, glad that all of those folks were staged. also just ensuring that fuel is flowing. hopefully we get our gas

stations and big-box stores opened up quickly. i would imagine that would happen, getting people back on their feet. that is our focus. any questions? >> pinellas county, my understanding is deputies are restricting access into the area. any insight on that? gov. desantis: i don't. we are going to open the bridges, i know a couple have debris that will be removed. those bridges will be open for traffic. floridians can use them as they see fit. we have not confirmed any. that does not mean that there has not been a process where this happens with the state. i know with tornadoes it seems likely that there were some with the tornadoes, but the only reports we received -- no confirmation. i would imagine there will be confirmation but it is too soon to tell with respect to the west

coast and the storm surge and everything. stay tuned on that. >> analyst predicted that milton's losses could exceed $50 billion. gov. desantis: how would a wall street analyst be able to know? it's been dark all day. give me a break with some of this stuff. they are doing damage assessments now. they always say this or that. what i would say is what i said in the original talker. we have certain worst case scenarios in terms of going into tampa bay. a lot of places in pinellas county had negative storm surge because it sucked the water out of the bay. in terms of all that where you see the entire tampa bay area under, that didn't happen. the storm surge was most acute in sarasota. i think it was a little bit more than sarasota got for helene but it was not so much more, eight

to 10 feet. helene got to almost 20 in taylor county. the fact that the storm weakened -- i'm not saying there will not be damage, there will be. it cut across the state in a way that helene did not. but right now, morning after, if i think back to hurricane ian, i don't think you are looking at similar amounts of damage. with helene, there may end up being over all damage, there may not, i don't know. but definitely the surge did not reach helene levels. helene was producing surge all over the west coast of florida and in the big bend it was biblical. that was not happening here. anything north of the storm had minimal search on the west coast. it was really that sarasota, charlotte harbor, lee, collier. compared to what they had with hurricane ian, that is not on the same level.

so we will see. there will be a lot more that will need to be done to assess the extent of the damage. but i think we can say, we have a lot of resources in play here in florida to be able to mitigate and get people back on their feet, get the state moving again. people want to get back in their homes, see the roads cleared, see the bridges reopened. that is our sole focus, to get people back. >> [indiscernible] gov. desantis: they were relocated. tropicana field, routine staging area for these things. the roof on that is not -- i think it is rated for 110 miles per hour. the forecast changes. as it became clear there was was going to be something of that magnitude in the distance, they redeployed them out of tropicana.

there were no state assets in tropicana field. i think duke also remove their assets as well. you look, the roof is basically like fabric. that was something that we understood, acted accordingly. they removed before the storm. there was no it issue with that. >> my understanding is earlier this morning -- gov. desantis: i know he has been engaged with that. >> about 1:40 this morning, i received a phone call, walked out over to this building, started working the issue. right now there are several water main breaks throughout pinellas county. different water systems, some municipal, some county. what they are doing is slowly raising pressure in those lines to figure out exactly where the bricks are at.

they will start repairing those breaks one by one. you may start to see some things come out of the hospital industry. we have stabilized the hospital situation. there is one active evacuation of a hospital right now, i don't have the name. we can get back to you through our folks. we have stabilized the water pressure in four out of five hospitals from getting any worse. we will continue to monitor that throughout the day. one active evacuation going on but we have stabilized. water tankers on-site pushing pressure back into the systems. i think the biggest thing to talk about -- the biggest thing right now in that pinellas, saint pete area is the water system. we are working to see how we can support and supplement the cities and county on what resources they need. we have already dispatched logistical folks into the area, sent engineers on our dime to be

as helpful as we can. we stand by ready to support pinellas and saint pete and other municipalities to help them get the water back on and running because again power and water are right there together. we can do a lot with power but we have to have water. gov. desantis: kinder morgan central pipeline system? >> i don't have anything on that pipeline system but i will find out what i can. we will get back with you guys. >> will that impact any of the postop recovery efforts near jacksonville? gov. desantis: saw mccain from jacksonville originally. kevin put them in different places to ride out the storm and come back in. it will not have any major impacts at all. these are just things you have to do. you stage and bear out how to go.

they were staged during helene. when the forecast that it may not make it through with the roof, then they adjusted accordingly. they are in the fight and will continue to. ok, thanks. >> he's a look at our live coverage today on c-span. at 11, 15 eastern, senate intelligence chair mark warner talks about the global challenges facing the next president at an evt hosted by the atlantic council in washington, d.c. then at 1:00, 20 toour republican presidential nominee and former president donald trump spes at a luncheon hostedy the detroitconomic club. at 7:00, former president barack obama campaied in support of 2020 four democratic nomie and vice president kamala harris at a rallin pittsburgh. you can alsoatch these events live on c-span nowour free mobile video app or online at c-span.org. >> c-span is your unfiltered

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the major party candidates. congresswoman yadira caraveo, pediatrician turned state legislature. she has both endorsed and condemned kamala harris. the publican challenger gabe evans, former police officer and one term state legislature who wrote donald trump's endorsement to a resounding primary win. this is next presents the race for congress. >> good evening, i am kyle clark. >> please welcome democratic congresswoman yadira caraveo and republican state representative gabe evans. [laughter] -- [applause] >> that will be the last time you hear applause and any titles used in this debate. you the voters will determine

who will hold the title representative. >> the candidates agreed to civil ground rules in advance. we will have one-minute answers, rebuttals and continued discussion at our discretion. we only have 30 minutes so let's get started on the issue of immigration. donald trump will campaign friday in aurora, which he falsely claimed was taken over by a venezuelan gang. he said getting the gang out of and only -- aurora will be a bloody story. aurora police say the gang's presence is small and isolated. nine arrested. trump says he will begin the largest deportation in american history in aurora, colorado removing what he says is 20 million people from the united states. mr. evans, you have said aurora has fallen. do you support trump's mass deportation plan to remove every person here illegally. given that you have served in law enforcement, military and national guard, what do you think about his plan to use all

three forces to do it? >> thank you for the question and for everyone coming here tonight. i have served in the military and law enforcement. there is a couple things we have to do. i have been fitted with my three-part plan. we must secure the border. immigration and customs has we have over 13,000 convicted murderers free in our committees. 99 individuals on the terrorist watchlist in our communities. we have to secure our border. we have to have a path for people who legally want to emigrate that doesn't trap them for decades in bureaucracy. and aggressively target those individuals who are illegally in our communities committing crimes. those are the folks we have to deport. i have never wavered from that. this is something we have to do because we are currently the third most dangerous day in the country. that is a direct result of the policies my opponent voted for great open border policies, defund the police. policies that make it illegal for police in colorado to even

call immigration and customs and i can fix it. >> we want a clear answer to whether you support donald trump's plan to deport every person in this country illegally . he describes that is 21 million people or more. i heard you say people committing crimes. >> we need to empower our law enforcement to be able to deport those folks that are committing crimes in our community. once we start to enforce the laws, then i think what you will see happen is those folks who have cut in the line will step back into the place they should have been all along. my grandfather earned his citizenship to this country with two purple hearts in world war ii as an immigrant from mexico. we have to make sure we are respecting the folks who did it the right way. and not allow folks to cut in line. >> i'm not certain i heard an answer about whether you support the trump plan to deport every person here illegally. you mentioned your mexican border grandfather you often cite in world war ii fighting the nazis. donald trump echoes the

dehumanizing rhetoric of the fascists that your grandfather fought on behalf of this country. trump says immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country. he says they are animals, not people. he invokes genetics, saying recently that immigrants who kill have bad gene, all calling a largely white crowd in minnesota that they have good genes because of the racehorse theory which involve selective breeding. when you hear donald trump whose endorsement you accepted say those things, what you think? >> as a state legislator, i was able to get 60% of my bills passed at the state capital. that is with me being in a republican super minority. 19 republicans to 46 democrats. the reason i got six to present past is because i can work with everyone on these issues. i do that because i focus on policies, not personality. >> with respect, would you please answer the question when donald trump uses dehumanizing rhetoric about minorities and migrants, what you think of that? >> in the endorsement, from cape

may, he talked about securing the border. talked about making community safe, lowering the cost of living. those are the things i am focused on. i condemn any sort of racist sort of speech. i would appreciate if my opponent could join me in condemning some of that racist speech. yesterday was the anniversary of one of the most egregious attacks on the jewish community. i didn't see anything on my opponent social media talking about that. >> just to clarify when you say you condemn racist statements, are you talking about those dehumanizing statement by donald trump? >> i have always condemned any sort of racist statements. >> are you willing to say that donald trump's statements are racist? >> yes or no question here. will you appear alongside donald trump at his rally in aurora if you are invited? >> i found out about that rally last night via the news media. i had as much information as anyone else in this room. >> would you say yes? >> i have as much information as anybody in this room.

>> let's say you say yes, which you correct any false statements in front of donald trump he were to make about colorado. >> i stand for the truth. this is why i have 60% of my bill is passed being in a for minority. two thirds of the mayors in my district have thrown their support behind me. >> mr. evans is running an ad that says the unsecured border is allowing drugs and crime to flow into colorado and you are responsible for all of it. what response ability do you have for the search in illegal immigration during the biting administration and how should the federal government help colorado with health care to education? >> thank you to you and kyle for having this debate tonight. thank you for the audience. it has been my honor to serve as the member of congress for the eighth congressional district the last two years. i do that is the culmination of the american dream that i have been able to live here with two parents who are immigrants, a. who works in construction 51 years to put four kids through

college. i was able to go through medical school and then see the issues that my community was struggling with. immigration is one of the issues that more needs to be done on by both parties pray to spend 40 years since there has been any comprehensive immigration reform . both democrats and republicans have been in charge and's then. i have spoken to kamala harris on that in a resolution. i introduced a package of bills that is bipartisan to look at the issue. and i'm not standing with a racist like donald trump having their endorsement and the really damaging language how they used against immigrants. >> he says you are responsible for all of this. what responsibility do you have? >> my responsibility was introducing legislation, which i did. that looks at securing the border, making sure we are stopping the flow of fentanyl, that we are funding interior cities like denver, and that we

are treating people humanely when they do come to this country. that package has not been moved by the speaker of the house who has endorsed my opponent. there was a bill from the senate that was supposed to be coming over to the house free donald trump decided he would rather run on the issue of immigration then give me the opportunity to vote on it. i would've voted for that package but he decided and mr. evans probably agrees with that immigration is best left to be a campaign issue and not something to be solved. >> it would appear that your views on immigration and border security have changed significantly the last couple years pray three years ago, you called for the defunding of border patrol and ice. this summer you joined republicans in strongly condemning kamala harris specifically and the biting administration for failing to secure the border. what caused you to drastically change your views in just a few years? >> the country has changed. we have seen a crisis that both

parties have set up and not offered solutions for. as a member of congress from a district that is evenly divided, it is my responsibility to portray the opinions of my constituents. i've done that by being the eighth-most bipartisan freshman member of congress. bypassing the first law that a freshman member of this congress passed last year. and i have done that by introducing a bipartisan package around immigration reform. and many other issues. that is the way that i am approaching this issue and many others making sure i am truly representing the eighth district. >> sounds like you are drawing a distinction between what you believe about or the security and what you believe constituents want on the issue. because of the changes, i will ask about things you supported in the past, if you would tell me briefly whether you still

hold those positions. if you want to say i will vote against it anyway because i think that is what my constituents want, say that, but let's get folks clarity. in 2021, you called on the administrator to divest from agencies like ice, is that still your position? >> five constituents do not believe that, so i would vote against that. >> is it your position? >> my job is to represent the eight congressional district and that is what i do every time ifo. >> i'm 2819, you prohibit law enforcement from cooperating with federal immigration holds in colorado, do you believe colorado law-enforcement should be barred from working with immigration agents? >> should not be up to local law enforcement. >> sounds like you still hold that position. >> the local police officer should not be enforcing laws the federal government has outperformed. >> -- performed. -- re-formed. >> is that still your view? >> i will vote in keeping with

what the constituents of the eighth district want me to. that is taking a balanced approach to people that emigrate legally and illegally. >> that did not answer the question of all. in 2021, you sponsored a bill that allowed the state to give contracts to people that knowingly employ people who do not have legal authorization to work. >> i have not had a bill presented to me since then. >> you sponsored a bill that opened up taxpayer public housing to people here illegally. that still your position, >> around the issue of housing, made sure am introducing a bill to have the federal government pay for migrant housing, so that local taxpayers do not. >> local taxpayers pay federal taxes, so it is still their money. >> but a disproportionate amount should not come onto the taxpayers only of denver. >> yes or no before other topics. republicans put together a

bipartisan bill in congress. that footage emergency closures of the barber if there are too many crossings and speeding up asylum approvals and denials made that failed after donald trump told republicans to oppose it. you said you would vote for the same bill if it came up again. >> mr. evans, would you vote for the same bill? >> start with yes or no. that bill had bipartisan opposition. >> what is it about that bill that had support from many republicans? >> that bill had bipartisan opposition because it required up to 5000 folks per day to be allowed into the united states under an asylum claim. that allows 1.8 million newcomers into our country every year through the slm program. it does not solve the issues and it takes the border patrol of the border and moves them into an administrative role. they are filling out paperwork instead of protecting our

country.we need more border patrol agents but we need more agents actually on the border securing the physical boundaries of the united states. >> an act would've allowed the border to be closed for emergency reasons. let's move to housing affordability. trump and harris proposed tax cuts but different approaches on affordable housing. neither philippe blame their proposals. the centerpiece of trump's economic plan as across-the-board tariffs. six to present goods on tariffs from china, 20% other important trade last month trump threatened to hundred percent tariffs on john deere. mr. evans, tariffs are passed on to consumers through higher costs for those product paid farmers and ranchers could face a give him a higher costs if trump follow through on the john deere threat. is that plans more policy? >> when it comes to protecting the economy, we have to cut red tape.

we have to reward folks who are taking the risk and doing the work in the united states. we were talking about china, china is in a class all of its own because china uses slave labor and have a communist government supporting their industries. we need to make sure we are holding china accountable for their dealings and in the international community and not allowing them to take over certain sectors of our economy. they are not on the same playing field. when it comes to china, i strongly -- i want to make sure we are holding china accountable. that protects the american workers. we need to cut the red tape. we need to ensure they are able to do their job here without the punitive regulations many of which my opponent sponsored. she brought the most damaging bill in a decade for farmers and ranchers in the eighth district. >> quick answer about the john deere threat. is that fair to the district if

they pay more for the same product? >> we need to create a positive environment in the united states so we won't have to have threats like that. so we can have american industry and economy empowered in the united states. will they cut that red tape? >> that threat is there. miss caraveo,, harris is calling for increased taxes on large corporations and americans making more than $400,000 a year. is that where you would draw the line? who should pay more taxes and who should pay less? >> for a long time, especially on the trump tax credit and tax law, we have been giving breaks to people who make over $400,000 a year and to corporations. more than high time for them to pay their share. i would approve a plan that increases taxes on those individuals.

the next congressperson to serve the eighth congressional district is going to be deciding what taxes will be cut and what taxes will be increased. if my opponent were to have his chance in office, he would be continuing the tax credits that benefit the wealthiest americans. i on the other hand have voted on decreasing the middle class tax amounts. i have voted to extend the child tax reddit -- credit that is $1800 a month to working families. >> $400,000 and less will be paying fewer taxes? >> correct. >> housing affordability now. both of you served in the state legislature. i ask each of you to discuss something you achieved at the state level to improve housing affordability. something you would look to do in congress to help coloradans

afford homes. >> housing was one of the prime issues i look at during the covered pandemic. i had heard stories from many constituents talking about late fees that were exorbitant. fees around trash and many things that have not been delineated in people's leases and later were suddenly added to their bill, sometimes totaling more than the rent itself, especially once corporations were calculating late fees the second the rent was late and daily after that. i passed a bill that lower those fees that major landlords are responsible when they charge fees to renters. to make sure we are making housing more affordable. in congress, i am introducing a bill that will look at innovation around affordable housing to make sure as a federal government what we

mainly can do is find affordability and look at the way different developments are classified, and credits that landlords can use to build. >> mr. evans? >> one of the biggest barriers to affordable housing in colorado's red tape. that goes back to energy. when energy is expensive, it is more expensive to get a load of two by fours and strive that to the market. it is or expensive to put the house together when there is red tape around construction. as we saw in the aftermath of the marshall fire, costs were higher because of that red tape. these things contribute to higher cost in housing. my opponent party has control colorado with majorities in the house and governorship the last six years, and houses are not more affordable. things i accomplished in the legislature are fighting that red tape. i am endorsed by the national federation of and it -- independent businesses.

because i fight for jobs. i fight for small businesses. my opponent voted against those businesses 75% of the time. >> let's discuss access to abortion. mr. evans, two years ago you told the conservative group that you support banning abortion except to save the life of the mother. no exceptions for rape or incest. is that still your view today? >> i know the survey you are talking about. it had two options, one pro-life, one pro-choice. i am pro-life. >> it allowed you to add comments. you did on a question on the same page. if you felt like an exception was appropriate, why not add that in the comment? >> here is my position. high have said it since day one since i got into the state legislature. my voting record reflects this. i support exceptions for rape,

incest, life of the mother and i don't support a national abortion ban. i received pressure from my own party to sign bills that would've taken away those exceptions. i was one of five republicans that didn't sign. nine voting record is clear from day one. so is my opponents record. she voted for abortion up to the moment of birth no questions asked and against funding our military. >> you cosponsored a bill to protect abortion access and supported tax dollars for contraception for people in this country illegally. do you support any restrictions on abortion access, why or why not? >> i support codifying roe v. wade. it was the law 50 years and was taken down by a supreme court that donald trump has said he is very proud to have set up. my opponent celebrated the fall of roe v. wade. now that he is running for congress he suddenly does not

want a national abortion ban, even though he filled out a questionnaire the way kyle described two years ago. he described himself as pro-life as they come. that decision of whether to have a child needs to be between a doctor and a woman. as a doctor who has been in clinics talking to women about this tough choice, that is the end all and be all of what i think abortion law should be, is between a woman and her doctor, not between gabe evans being in your exam room and telling your doctor what to do. >> mr. evans, you support school vouchers using taxpayer money to support religious or private schools. donald trump's plan calls for universal school toys. how would you like that accomplished at the federal level? >> we have an education crisis. i got two boys. 60% of third are not reading at

the third-grade level. 70% cannot do math at the eighth grade level. we need to put parents, students and teachers back in charge of education. what i always supported is an environment that allows parents and families that choice to select the education that works best for them. to me that means parents can see what their kids are being taught and they can select a school that works for them. they are not locked into something that is underperforming. we have seen this succeed in other places. i will always be a firm believer that allowing families more choice, putting them along with teachers back in control of education rather than bureaucrats is the way we move our system forward. >> you are a supporter of the christian homeschooling movement and a member of the group heritage defense which defends parents accused of beating their children, or as the group

described, using corporal punishment following biblical protocol. last year you voted against a ban on corporal punishment in colorado public schools. when do you believe it except a ball to hit a child at home and at school. >> it is in the lower right now. you can refer to the law where it talks about special exceptions that parents and guardians have when they are tasked with up bringing for a minor. we need to ensure we provide a's place for kids to be able to learn in our public schools. >> there was a security exception. this went beyond the exception when people needed to control children for safety reasons. >> i was a part-time school resource officer for two years at my law enforcement agency. one of the biggest things i hear from teachers

-- >> if you will not answer the question, we will use the time. >> you are running an ad about fentanyl that says you broke with your party to back to penalties. -- tuogher penalties. that is not true. you decriminalize small amounts of fentanyl and joined democrats to reverse that in 2022. why deceive voters on an obviously false claims ain't you broke with your party on this? >> that's not true. i broke with my party in congress on various votes including one to increase the number of border patrol agents by 22,000. >> you are referencing nothing of your actions in the state legislature in that ad? >> who won the 2020 presidential election? >> joe biden. >> mr. evans? >> joe biden. >> if kamala harris wins the

2024 election, will you accept the results? >> we need to make sure every legal vote is counted but i will accept the results. >> as determined earlier by coin toss, miss caraveo. >> thank you to the audience and my opponent for being here tonight. the choice in november in four weeks is stark. i have made sure that i am representing the district in a way that my constituents would be proud of and that is in keeping with being raised as the child of a construction worker, of immigrants, who has been able to live out my american dream. that is what i have worked for everything old day in congress by making sure i look at affordability, health care and making sure it is accessible, giving the choice of health care back to women and keeping our air and water clean while ensuring we continue to have oil

and gas industry in the eighth district. spend the honor of my life to serve as representative for the district and i hope to earn your trust for two more years. >> mr. evans? >> thank you for hosting the debate tonight, for my opponent for having this conversation and to our studio audience. we have a choice between policies that allows fentanyl to flow into our communities and hold drug dealers accountable. between leaving the border open or securing the border. policies that defined law enforcement or that support our police to keep communities safe. we can reward work or punish work. my opponents record is clear. she voted for defunding the police, to lower the penalties for violent criminals who commit crimes with firearms, open border policies, and for policies that make it illegal for local and state law enforcement to pick up the phone and call immigration when folks are committing crimes.

i am a cop, soldier, husband, grandson of immigrants, i served overseas in the combat zone. i know how to fix these things. i have done it in the state legislature. >> 30 minutes flies by. this concludes the only live debate in colorado's eighth congressional district this year. thank you both candidates for continuing the tradition where candidates take on challenging issues and questions and engage respectfully about your differences, as you did here tonight. i encourage you to now join us. [applause] mail ballots, you can vote in person in colorado. you can see this debate in its entirety streaming on 9 news and on the youtube channel. 9 news is where you will find our continuing series

decision 2024. from marshall zellweger and all of us at 9 news, i'm kyle clark, this has been presents the race for congress. [applause] >> today on c-span our campaign 2024 coverage continues at 1:00 p.m. eastern with donald trump delivering remarks on the economy in detroit. on c-span two, public and vic presidential nominee jd vance will speak to voters about illegal immigration, the economy and hurricane helene at a town hall in greebo, north carolina. then at seven :00 on c-span, formerredent barack obama joins the campaign trail supporting vice president harris at a rally in pittsburgh. you can watch on c-span now, our free mobile video app and online at c-span.org.

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is debated and decided all with the support of america's cable company. c-span, 45 years and counting. powered by cable. area. we are in open forum. you can talk about the government's response to national -- natural disasters and other polity -- policies. a caller: i have done some research and we offer about 200 countries and territorial areas about $80 billion a year in humanitarian efforts. i'm just wondering how many of those countries are helping us now with humanitarian effort here in the united states. if none of them are, i think it is time to change the policy.

host: gary in st. louis, missouri, independent. caller: i'm calling and point out these hurricanes are a great example of why it is important to have mail-in voting and drop boxes and extended voting periods. when you have a disaster like this, millions of people are affected just before an election and not every time you are going to have something this large but there are disasters of people having problems where they cannot get to a polling booth on the day of the election, so i thing this is a great example of why we should have extended voting periods and mail-in voting and that sort of thing. i was wondering if c-span could give information on what these people are going to have to do to be able to vote. host: i do not have anything

right now. we can look for stories about that. jim in missouri, democratic caller. >> recently, 60 minutes did a segment about insurance companies not paying the full amounts of claims with the high taxes and high insurance that flora has, why do they need any kind of federal money? and how long before our congress talks about we have to spend less money? the continuing resolutions to fund the government at last year's levels, we have another disaster that was not figured into last year's budget. you cannot have it both ways. host: jonathan is in texas,

republican. we are in open forum. what is on your mind? caller: i am a little upset with c-span and you in particular as a moderator seem to want to abandon the idea that some people are built very smart and highly capable. so proof of that is the article you did not read in the wall street journal, which provides evidence of this perspective, which is the article that elon musk is providing help to north carolina storm victims. yesterday, c-span had general mckenzie on, who is a brilliant strategist and genius on geopolitical events. he explained the dangers of iran in detail. brilliant man. on that subject, netanyahu came

to congress. harris did not go. the next day, iran made a successful missile attack on israel, implying hamas can do whatever they want, so back to the subject of smart people, of which ron desantis is in that group, he has a brilliant knowledge of efforts in the state of florida. what did biden and harris do yesterday? they had a conference call asking foolish questions and governor desantis was not on it. thank you for taking my call. host: jonathan's thoughts in texas. gregory is in kentucky, independent. >> good morning. i am 65 years old. i am just wondering, in the 19

70's or maybe the late 1960's -- there were not many hurricanes and disasters and i'm suspecting a be because of the emissions and climate control and we need to do something about that. every time they try to do something good, it gets railroaded by someone and it is almost like when the twin towers went down and they had warning of that and the cia and fbi works together and people died. i am just paraphrasing that, so the insurance companies are all over television everyday spending millions of dollars on stupid commercials and when you need them they try their best to get out of helping you and there should be something past or part

of the constitution so insurance companies should ensure people that live in those areas now that we have more hurricanes than ever and the one caller on your last phone -- we need the lord. thank you very much. host: the previous caller asked about voting and how residents impacted by these hurricanes vote. this is a story by reuters. north carolina passed legislation to make it easier for those impacted by hurricanes to vote. the package allows local election boards and the 25 storm hit counties to modify voting hours, combined precincts, change voting sites, and permit absentee ballots to be returned to any county board or voting site, among other measures. that is what is happening in north carolina after the hurricane.

if you are interested in that story, it is by reuters. >> thanks for taking my call. i'm watching one of my grandchildren today. i watched the other one yesterday and i will watch another one tomorrow. when does personal responsibility start? i am in new york state. i pay some of the highest taxes in the country and every time there is an emergency down there they are taking our federal taxes. we had a blizzard a couple years ago. egg bunch of people died up here. we got nothing. host: you do not think the federal government should be spending money in florida year after year? caller: i am all for helping them, but we have to be paid back. we have bridges that are dilapidated.

and we get nothing. we send our money down there and then they call us the welfare state when they are getting money from us. when will it end? host: on florida and how voters there will be impacted by these hurricanes, the associated press , the governor there issued an executive grant of flexibility for election officials in those 13 hard hit counties to alter their procedures because of hurricane helene and hurricane melton. it allows early voting and election day polling places to be changed or consolidated. makes it easier to request a mail-in ballot be sent to a different address than where they are registered to vote and allows ballots to be sent in envelopes so they can reach voters in their new locations. those are some of the modifications being made in states impacted by hurricane helene and hurricane melton.

we are in open forum. go ahead. >> first, thank you for taking my call. the more i watch what is going on in this world and country, the angrier i get. we have so many citizens impacted by storms, that are impacted by the way that our government is handing out money to immigrants who we have not asked to come here. we do not need them. good a gentleman talking about how high taxes are. i'm sure he had no idea his tax money was going to go to fund all these other people who have not been vetted, who do not need to be here and we need to start taking care of our own people instead of everyone else.

instead of people who are coming in and taking a vantage of our kindness and generosity and sending the most horrible people they can hear. americans are dying because of these people. host: as part of c-span's 2020 for coverage, today we will cover former president barack oba in pitburgh. pittsburgh is at says he wilbe there for the get out the vote tour starting today in pittsburgh. we will have live coverage of his remarks there at a rally, 7: p.m. eastern time on c-span , on our free mobile video app, or online at c-span.org. jd vance, the former president's running mate on the republican ticket, he willpe to voters at a town hall and we will have live coverage of that on c-span

two, c-span now, and online at c-span.org. this afternoon, the repuic presidential nominee is in michigan to deliver remarks on the economy at an event hosted by the detroit economic club. we will have live coverage of that as well on c-span and online and on demand at c-span.org. let's go to sylvia in california , democratic caller. good morning. >> good morning. yes, i hear the concerns and they are genuine in how it has come to this for the people affected by the storms in the east coast. i am concerned about the united states' continued funding of wars, particularly the middle east, and the continued funding of israel.

we must stop that. since 1948, the united states has been funding israel. we have provided them with all the weapons that have been used now to destroy gaza, now destroying lebanon and continuing to destroy countries around israel. why does the united states continue to fund israel? we must stop it. host: i'm going to have you end there. when you call in for you and others, you have to mute your television so we do not get that feedback. romney in arkansas, republican. caller: thank you for taking my call. i wanted to bring up a couple points real quick. number one, if we keep our borders open, we will be just a

big state of california. there will never be another republican. it will only be democrats. another thing, as far as these hurricanes, they say you have to apply for a loan and take that. there is no accountability for all this money we are sending overseas. we do not ask for money back on that. people worked all their lives in this country. they paid in and people are taking advantage of all our tax money to live on. host: more on c-span's campaign 20 for coverage. last night, we were -- we were able to air the senate arizona debate hosted by the arizona clean elections commission, the debate between kari lake and ruben gallego. here is part of the debate where they discussed immigration.

>> i want to finish the border wall. on day one, my first piece of legislation will be to fully fund and expedite construction of the border wall. we already paid for the construction materials to do that, but ruben gallego and kamala harris have $325 million of border material from pennies on the dollar they gave away. >> in addition to finishing the wall, do you add security and technology? do you spend on that? >> absolutely. i do not think we can do enough to secure our border. it is the most important issue facing our country. every state is a border state because of this man's policies, which have been 100% open borders. he sided with the cartels and against the american people. >> a minute to respond.

do you support open borders? >> i do not support open borders. a country that does not have a border the control is not a country. i agree with that. i have been proud of making sure in my time in >> you can watch the rest of this program online at c-span.org. we will take you live to remarks by mark warner on the global challenges facing the next u.s. president. you're watching live coverage on c-span. >> i'm fred kemp, today we are delighted to welcome senator mark warner to discuss the array of global risk and opportunities facing whomever is elected you're vice president in november. i'm sorry i can't be there in person. i'm in istanbul but hope to see you upon my return. this event is part of the atlantic council's bipartisan election year event series titled elections 2024. america's role in the world.

>> through this series we examine the challenging local context for 2023 -- 24 u.s. elections. and the state of wars in the middle east and europe, the contests for commanding heights of technological change and so much more. writing recently in the financial times the cia director and the uk's mi six director set the stage this way. there is no question that the international world order the balanced system does lead to relative peace and stability and delivered rising living standards and opportunities and prosperity is under threat in a way we have not seen since the cold war. we were delighted to host senator chris murphy of connecticut earlier this fall and we invite you to stay tuned for future events including one on october 30 with congressman michael turner, chairman of the house select committee on intelligence.

since 1961 the lintel council nonpartisan values driven commission has been to shape the vole -- the commercial -- the future through construction and collaborative u.s. leadership. in the aftermath of the second world war the united states has upheld that order throughout the cold war and to the present day working alongside allies and partners to create a more secure and prosperous future for all. as the american feet -- people consider who to elect as the next u.s. president and who to elect to congress, among other factors they must discuss who can best manage global challenges that are historic in nature. we are delighted to be joined today by senator warner. we are grateful for his longtime engagement with the atlantic council including in his role as cochair of the bio partisan commission on the geopolitical impacts of new technologies and data.

before we turn to the conversation senator warner i'm delighted to invite the atlantic council board director and nana -- managing director at global head of commodity strategy. to introduce the senator and offer these welcoming remarks. thank you again for joining us. over to you. >> thank you so much fred for those kind words. rbc capital markets is delighted to support this election series, events like this one are essential for engaging democratic citizens and shedding light on the implications of potential presidential administrations. they look forward to a vibrant conversation here today. senator mark warner joins share his thoughts on the global risks and opportunities and ex-president must confront and how potential harris administration may impact u.s. foreign policy. senator warner has served in the

united states senate for over 15 years and serves as chairman of the senate select committee on intelligence where he is worked across the aisle to serve virginians and the including by crafting and negotiating key legislation on infrastructure, cybersecurity and national security. senator warner believes strongly in democracy and election integrity and has underlined that both democrats and republicans must come together to respond to election security threats especially the pervasive efforts by russia, china and iran. stating a whole of society effort is needed to ensure our democratic processes -- we very much look forward to sharing your thoughts on how the next u.s. president should respond to emerging transform the technologies and great power competition. we are also very honored to have my very dear friend brian

sullivan monitoring the conversation -- moderating the conversation. he previously hosted as anchor of cnbc's last call worldwide exchange and power lunch and has been nominated. before i turn it over to you, a couple of housekeeping points. this event is public and on the record. towards the end of the moderated conversation we will take some questions from the audience. for those joining us virtually and in person, please submit your questions displayed on the screen now and do not forget to include your name and affiliation. thank you for joining us. over to you. brian: i must thank you for mentioning me because fred left me out. [laughter] it was like senator thank you. it's an honor to be here.

fantastic person, thank you so much. let's talk right in. president biden was supposed to be i believe in angola but he did not rightly so because hurricane milton and disaster relief. what's so fascinating, vice president biden going to angola. but what would be the urgency of that trip. if you know what angola has from a critical mineral perspective that all the advanced weapon systems we are going to do build the magnets that control rays are -- radar, all the things you know about that i don't know about senator. but this i feel like from an energy security perspective, looking at china's almost ironclad grasp and hold on all of these elements that we forgot about from high school, is that

the next battleground. sen. warner: first of all thank you and thank you for those comments. but it's great to be back. i wanted to make two comments upfront. first we will talk about all the challenges, but i just came back from two days touring southwest virginia where we were hard-hit by helene. not as bad as north carolina or other states free and what i came away with as we think about florida recovery, the incredible amount of folks, neighbors helping neighbors in the aftermath of this horrible storm. an incredible generosity the american people. it starts with committees helping, churches helping.

but there is in norma's resilience and it's one of the reasons it drives me crazy some of the disinformation being spread in the aftermath of the storms but a lot of good in this country that needs to be celebrated. at the top, i will do this in a non-senatorial way. i want to hit five spots that i think frankly even biden could see some progress on. that aren't getting the kind of attention that i think would warrant. one, and i'll move from north to south and then west. the circumstances in venezuela ought to be receiving more intention -- more attention. they voted in record numbers, it was an overwhelming defeat for maduro. we have not been able to rally

states in the region and prospects for that country i think are very dim at this point and when maduro was sworn in again if we don't make some changes we could see another mass of venezuelans leaving which would put an additional strain on the border. it goes to what you mentioned about china in terms of energy is the increasing role that australia and oceania will play. this dozens of island nations in the region, many of which we don't have -- yet. but each of these nation-states has coverage in terms of the amount of ocean they control, that are staggering and for a little bit of attention we can go a long way. brian: you've got three more to get to. you talk about a myanmar.

sen. warner: on talking about papa new guinea, the solomon islands. i'm talking about nation-states that most americans frankly couldn't identify couple years back. brian: is it because of the waterway? >> it's more the fact that small nation-state they have based upon what they claim is there ocean mineral rights. an area mass that may be larger than alaska and texas combined. undersea and we have ignored these nations. we are starting to put a little bit of time bringing them frankly broadband, partnering with our tech companies. a huge opportunity. in china the normal stuff we will talk about but i think in energy china is making huge gains on the big advocate for

reintroduction of advanced nuclear. there will be a competition with china that we are engaged in. we need to move quicker. with that is what china has been doing with life-sciences and bio. as nobly heard of huawei may be eight years ago groups going forward is beijing genomics institute. huge challenges there. in the middle east we have wars going on there's also geopolitical move that i think could be one of the most transformative of the next 25 years and the saudi's, the, roddy's, the other gulf states based upon their own decisions transform their economies to more technology-based and race for data centers and ai, they i believe will make the decision to stop playing off against china and russia and go with us because they want our technology. how we navigate that, the

microsoft deal is the tip of the spear on that is something that needs more attention. a place we are spending a lot of money and time is the crisis in sudan. more people dying in sudan then gaza, lebanon and ukraine combined and if america could show we actually care about africans killing africans. you don't have to pick a moral choice, a little bit of effort here and does come back to our angola question. show they care about africa which based on 2040 almost half the rare earth minerals, population increase. i've got a 25 minute version of that but that was my three minute version up talk. -- up top. i think this competition with china on energy is one of the next realms of development.

it's not just extraction of minerals it's the process where china has really dominated in the process of rare earth minerals. we can go head-to-head on extraction. we are getting better with our allies. we also have to do the process. brian: it was on most a tv segment. i think you blamed the media three times in that brief statement. sen. warner: not yet. brian: i want to work invert it. i was trying to explain what was going on to my 10-year-old son and how it doesn't get any attention. there's limited capacity i think -- sometimes i think there's limited capacity for human suffering from my end of the camera which is hard. it just physically takes a toll. anybody here from california or las vegas? you may have driven from las vegas to l.a. or the other way.

next time you do it when you cross to california leaving las vegas, you are going to l.a.. the first or second exit you will see a sign that says baker and then there is this weird looking line up on the hill. it's probably most important mine in the united states. they produce neodymium. that goes into every phone, every laser sight on these drones, advanced weapons. until recently senator that mine , which came 36 hours away from closing permanently would ship it starts to china from the desert of california by truck to a ship to the center of china to be washed and then they would ship it back to i think oregon to be processed. i think it shows where the supply chains are really screwed up.

how do we fix this? sen. warner: couple that and i'm going to -- there's a mine in western north carolina that produces another key component, a quartz. but that, frankly i wasn't fully aware about all the aspects. i think what we are going to have to do. i'm a democrat and proud to be democrat. even democrats have to realize we have to build stuff again in this country. we can have a regulatory regime that adds two to three years of added costs to try and be able to, whether it build a new -- orest supply chain on rare minerals and the fact is even if were not to do all the processing here we need to do it with her friends and allies around the world. i think this is a huge opportunity and i think there is

a growing recognition of that across both sides of the aisle. >> world war ii effectively ended because in many ways germany ran out of oil. they couldn't move their tanks. they were really out of gas. walking by tanks that were just there. i feel like lithium, neodymium, cobalt, quartz, those of the new oil. and so it's going to change strategic. i don't think and 25 years of doing this senator i have heard anybody mention the solomon islands. sen. warner: until a year ago. i wouldn't have. you've got to learn, -- brian: does that change -- how do we adjust our lines. sen. warner: recognizing there a series of nation-states of most americans couldn't identify in that wide space between hawaii

and australia and a tiny bit there. frankly making sure some of them big tech companies bringing across actually weaken either go through those islands so they can get the broadband capabilities. this is literally pennies on the dollar in terms of american investment. but it is where part of this next frontier it's also one of the reasons why i think this competition around -- i'm all for solar and wind but we are never in a power ai data centers on solar and wind entirely because you need consistent when he 47 power. while not the complete solution, is that power source, it is safe and carbon free and we saw back into the oil analogy just as nation-states became a pet -- dependent on middle east oil for literally decades on land.

you a 30 year contract with a provider whether it's america or china. that means that country is locked into that system and many nation-states want to biotechnology. the question is if this is so good why aren't you building more of these already. and what we've got in america is lots of interest, nobody wants to go first. can we make a group purchase here and frankly the hyper scalars, the big tech firms will need this power there ai data centers need that and we are getting very close to i think some major announcements which is both good for american energy independence. american energy leadership. challenges against china and frankly since this is carbon free power 80's a winner across the board. >> three mile island many of you of certain age. >> do you want to ask, people remember fremont -- three mile island. >> put your hands down.

>> sow three mile island is a new -- a plant. in 1979 they thought it was can have a meltdown like radiation huge disaster, averted disaster. they're not turning it -- the folks of the federal energy regulatory commission agreed to turn her back on but they will use that power not to power homes, but to give microsoft more data center access. oracle wants to build a data center, energy is weird and confusing. let me put it in a tv news anchor way. one gigawatt of power is about 750,000 average size homes worth of electricity to run one computer center. the country then controls the power and has the power, china is building nuclear reactors. in one fourth the time it takes us to build the one that we built in 30 years.

why are they so much better at it. >> they are willing i think to cut corners in terms of safety protocols. >> and we've obviously seen we think about with china's belton road initiative many nation-states saying please stop. in many nation-states are unsatisfied customers because they thought there were to get a lot of jobs. in the quality of the workforce this morning and still there deep in debt. these other nation-states. europe and elsewhere, we are this close to signing up. we need our own regulatory process to move quicker and i think there's been a seachange on nuclear energy. the overwhelming majority of democrats no that has to be part of the mix and i think there were even some changes on the nrc.

i thought it was hypocritical when we walked away from nuclear for a number of years that we never said we will walk away from nuclear powered subs or aircraft carriers. the power on or aircraft carriers almost the equivalent of small modular reactors which are 200 to 300 megawatts, smaller, cheaper and safer. a half-dozen in process, we need many more and go ahead and get over this process. we need to kind of breakthrough that concern about that. brian: i've been privileging my crew to go to many countries there he did one country i will not go to because i'm a journalist i am literally afraid

i will be kidnapped is the congo. i learned most of what i say reading the notes. so because to your point you didn't mention it by name. in the china comments. importing the workforce. make a couple people really rich. and then they brought in their own people. how do we prevent how do we prevent more countries from being taken over in a way with chinese dollars. sen. warner: angola was example of a nation-state focus more russian china. there's been a complete switch over.

but also to show the interest. and i've been guilty of this at times. sometimes even we talk about the challenge and we always say america and the west. every time we take off two thirds of the world because we are leaving out countries that what i think rather be aligned. i think of the moment when china has the belton road, my view is they are dissatisfied customers a little bit of attention making sure some of the tools we have like export import bank developing finance corporations. they need a little bit more equity, they need to take a few more risks and we can do this in concert with european friends and there is a seachange coming on. if you ask five years ago if folks knew what the greatest export was from drc you would

get stares from 90% of the members. now the vast majority realize three major mines in the congo into our controlled by china. that is a g applicable and strategic risk not only for america but for non-authoritarian regimes everywhere. brian: this belgian company, a lot of belgian references lately. is all these little minerals. we all know what quartz is. but this one mine in north carolina got flooded produces 95% of the super quality quartz that going to semiconductors. so all these things the senators talking about are these minerals , but every device you own, every car you drive has probably 100 of them in some fashion in them and a lot of them are mined in really weird hard places. lithium in a desert. the middle of australia, those are friendly nations but how

much focus is there in the senate on to your point educating newer members, younger members. here's why angola, a country we don't talk about geopolitically is so relevant. is it hard to breakthrough? sen. warner: it is hard to breakthrough when they're not on foreign relations. 51 overriding effort is to redefine national security. who has the most tanks and planes and guns but really the technology. it's a technology race which we've never faced that kind of adversary that was a military threat, ideological threat. china is an economic near peer in certain areas. and who wins the battle, 5g was a wake-up call for a lot of us. it is around energy, it is around some of the rare earth minerals. it's around a whole host of

other domains that initially quantum computing was not viewed as a national security issue. >> cheap plug at 1:30 and 4:50 today i will be on talking about these issues and how they differed. but i always remind people no matter who is president, we have this thing called congress. and we have the senate and we have foreign relations. you, especially you senator warner and many others are sort of running the show behind the scenes. under either outcome. how much does that change your work? is it more relevant as to the ultimate composition of this? sen. warner: news flash, the vast majority of us in the senate actually like each other and work together. brian: that does not rate. sen. warner: i make a joke i work in the play place in america were being a gang member is a good thing.

every time you have a group of bipartisan senators called a gang of this or that. and so if you look at every major piece of legislation the last covid package under trump, birthed the bill at least -- you look at the chips bill. you look at the offshore account act. these are all bipartisan. i believe regardless of who is president, that gang. and it gets hard. it's been harder for my republican colleagues. it's a great loss when we lose rob portman and mitt romney's of the world. but there is one thing about the senate is there kind of like a high school you never graduate from. so summing kisses you off freshman year you can't stay mad forever because that person will find another place.

sometimes this will be my first crack at the media and you guys are actually not as guilty as most. a fact-based new station. but if you are msnbc or fox, you give the -- a lot more attention to the loudest voices on the extreme. >> i appreciate the dig at the media paid it's not the first and won't be the last time. you are right and it is so critical to remind people of this and hopefully as people watching at home, there's 535 of you in a full house. 100 senators, 435 congressmen. the rest are just quietly doing the rest of their jobs and part of many people as well. so thank you for that. i think we forget that as well. ask me later on today, under either administration we've got

a huge japanese delegation in right now. i've been in europe many times. on lng ships talking about the marshall pan marshall plan synergy. most of europe but particularly germany after somebody blew up the nord stream. if you know who that was could you let us know. so how much would energy policy differ under trump or harris administration? sen. warner: i'm not sure how many of mr. trump's slapping on 100% or 200% tariffs on every nation-state, how much of that is bluster or reality. i think that would have an effect because even on energy, i think more generally, i was a big advocate of moving to lng to allow this to be exported. i think that has allowed many

european nations to move off of russian gas, it's geopolitically to our and non-. brian: should we end deposit on certain new project. sen. warner: i would take a fresh look at a lot of those projects. the threats to climate change are real. we see that in these once in a generation storms that happen every year now. but we are not going to flip a switch and make that transition overnight. and how we have and all of the above to make that while we push the greener. the nuclear area seems to be a place where both the republicans and democrats could actually find some agreement. brian: the change in nuclear has been nothing short of remarkable. we are going to shut down. here's something for it is any one here from the massachusetts area. boston in the winter because you

can build a pipeline there will important natural gas from trinidad and they have to do that from houston because of the jones act and the shipping rule means you can ship inside the united states. >> you actually know this energy stuff really well. brian: there are days to literally keep the heat and light on in boston they are burning trash. burning trash, polluting gross stuff. i was asked people tonight ask them what year did the world use the most coal ever. no question, a 1933, 1872. 2024. the world has never used more coal than today. you talk about liquefied natural gas and carbon emissions. absolutely but if they don't have that that's what germany's burning instead. cold. far far worse. at least we do it as responsible as a nation. >> and what you see in

nation-states i china and india who are building nuclear but they're all building many more coal fire plants. the west end for 150 years. and ultimately for anyone. >> we have about 10 minutes a couple question here. thank you. smart crowd usually get the -- one more before we go into this. you mentioned in your first answer you mentioned i've never heard of it so i don't know anything -- everything. who are they and why are they on the radar. >> i think the place where ai could have the most effect is in bio life sciences. a guy from a public company, jason kelly out of ginkgo works. he basically said you think about ai models when were trying to duplicate large language.

he says ai can unlock dna. there is -- they can do that at speed and scale. to have that happen you need a lot of dna and they are basically scooping up dna samples had an unprecedented level. they are doing the things we managed to stop and sometimes where they have investments in companies be hidden and getting access to some of our information and you combine ai and dna mapping and some of this is spooky in terms of super soldiers. and i think this is, the whole question around ai and bio is hugely important and a piece of that you think about synthetic biology you think about growing their energy or growing material sciences.

through kind of a more lifecycle basis rather than manufacturing. and china is doing what they did in other domains. we talk about where they are building up a bio manufacturing capability. we have a little of that. europeans are further ahead in this domain and frankly some of those bio manufacturing are shutting down. basically a couple of them around the chemical process. where you kind of grow chemicals rather than produce them. >> and bgi. bgi is the -- two bio what huawei is to telcom. >> we are talking about the internal, not internal terms. >> literally our dna and the

race for the biologics. a couple quick questions. how do you think either candidate ai regulation. >> don't hold your breath no matter which person wins. i still think one of the great mistakes we made in this country was not putting guardrails on social media. in terms of mental health, we trace the mental health issues simultaneously smart phones 2014 going up, so when schumer had all the ai big heads in and they all said of course we want to have regulation. they'll say they want regulation to the put words on the page. and i'm deeply engaged with a lot of these companies and think i've got a b for something. the europeans of overdone we've done nothing there is somewhere in the middle. where i think smart regulation i do think the california approach

and i'm usually knee-jerk against the california approach but some level of liability regime on a nationwide basis for extraordinary harm i think there was something there. i think some of the areas, a number of states have already passed ai regulation in terms of deepfakes and politics. alabama's and florida's and texas as well as some blue states. i think we'll find out major market manipulation. i wouldn't focus on a fortune 100 company. but i think fortune 100 to 500. how can you use ai tools. manipulate stock prices. i thought that would be a spotlight. capitalist and democrats -- emocrats, but so far we have done that. >> we kind of know the trump doctrine.

harris assuming she wins what would be her one or two top foreign policy priorities day one. sen. warner: i hope it would be to continue to recognize we live in a dangerous world. she served on my committee. i think she understands the seriousness of the challenges and understand we live in a dangerous world and our adversaries are not playing for second place. continuing to realize the challenge with china is the issue of our time but i also think making sure averaging like putin is not successful in ukraine. i'm flabbergasted that donald trump in the debate wouldn't say who he thought should win that war. and i think ukraine, its long-term challenge be a negotiation but the fact that ukrainians, and this is about six months worth of information. taking out 87% of russia's

pre-existing ground forces, 63% of their tanks, 32% of their air -- without losing a single american soldier. the soviets were our ultimate -- ukrainians have done that job in an enormously powerful way and if we have not stood there, putin would have been -- the baltics would be under assault. poland and elsewhere. we along with our allies have to draw the line. it gets into a little bit of this question of realigning from playing both sides to actually saying there to make that not because of our values but because of our technology. that would be a geopolitical switch. >> i'm always careful not to characterize nation by leaders versus people. china is not xi jinping. russians are not putin. sen. warner: i think it's american policymakers are

needing to make that point because every time. it's not what the chinese people. making that point the chinese comet's party uses to great advantage on we chat in the chinese -- you see this is all racist anti-chinese. >> when putin is gone and there will be a day when he is gone. and the reason i brought up the point about the russian people, what is the u.s. long-term strategic plan. i don't want to say for russia, that implies power or ownership but with russia. what's russia's ultimate role in a post putin russia's role do they come back into the fold? to your earlier point they can't stay mad forever. >> after the wall fell, after the prime minister -- as a business guy in the 90's, i went to russia a lot. looks like us, sees like --

seems like us. i made investments. i thought russia had turned the corner. maybe it was a little bit crooked, they want rule of law. the same thing that brought them into the world trade organization. i was a big advocate as governor of saying the more we bring china in the more it will be a stable world order. deciding the primacy of the comet's party was more important than the chinese people. i was wrong again there. so can we prevent post-russia putin? i would love to see a flowering of a more open russia but i think we have to prepare for both circumstances. you could see russia move further to the right or further authoritarian. brian: i will very quickly you mentioned venezuela at the top.

humanitarian tragedy. majuro's good to be there for life it appears. listen to opec meetings and one thing that the pistol me off was the human tragedy. he would show up with his wife and she had like $3000 shoes on. i'm thinking -- i'm a ds w shoe warehouse man myself. it was like people are eating trash in your nation and here you are showing up not only with your wife in the shoes and shopping bags. >> how do we solve the maduro. >> we basically ask the venezuelan people to get out and vote. they voted in overwhelming numbers even in the hardest barrios. the fact that we asked brazil, mexico and colombia to step back and frankly they didn't i think

there should be another contact group. i think we should not take our eyes off of venezuela. it is a humanitarian issue and potentially border issue. and if we are not willing to stand by democratic results in our own hemisphere, what does that signal. brian: anything you want to say in close that i might've missed? sen. warner: another senate filibuster. think the atlantic council. about those five regions. i hope we get a chance to continue this. >> i went to thank you for being here today at the atlantic council front page. i'm not being paid to be here. i wanted to see you again, senator. all my friends and new friends at the atlantic council. an amazing conversation. it could have gone on for hours but you have to run the country. a big hand for senator mark warner. [applause]

>> coming up shortly, 40 governor ron desantis will hold a briefing on hurricane milton. he will joined by fema administrator "well in florida. we will have live coverage when it gets underway. s this morning is samantha montano, the author of the book "disasterology: dispatches from the frontlines of the climate crisis." as florida wakes up this morning to the devastation of hurricane milton, what happens first on the ground with officials, first

responders, those on the front lines as you work? guest: the first priority is always life-saving measures. that will be everything from making sure that hospitals and other critical facilities have what they need to start their operations doing search and rescue, checking on folks who were unable to evacuate, checking in at shelters and making sure they have the resources they need and is starting the process of assessing damage, getting basic supplies like food and water out to folks who need it. host: who does that work? guest: a whole bunch of people, all different agencies, organizations are going to be involved from a local first responders to other first responders who have come from outside of the state of florida. you'll have fema officials

involved in that and state and local emergency management and lot -- local nonprofits and local groups and the disaster it nonprofits that come in two places that are affected. host: what do you make that president biden had told the florida governor that the defense department was on standby to conduct a if needed? guest: it is coming for dod to do -- be tasked with various needs that arise and i take that as a sign of being responsible and acknowledging the potential impact of the events. host: what experience did you have on the frontlines? guest: i got started doing disaster work in new orleans after hurricane katrina and the levee failure. i started out as a volunteer and we began working with different

disaster recovery nonprofits. i did a lot of work that folks from north carolina to florida are going to have to start doing, everything from mucking and gutting out houses to rebuilding homes, helping people fill out fema paperwork, insurance paperwork, kind of anything and everything that needs to be done in the aftermath of a disaster. the subtitle of your book, from the frontlines of the climate crisis. why did you say the climate crisis? i think it is a crisis. we have seen the effects of climate change particularly on extreme weather events. communities across the world are suffering from those consequences. from an emergency management standpoint, we are in a crisis and it is important to frame that to the public so we

understand the urgency of acting to try to prevent the climate from changing more but also making sure we are doing everything possible for the communities of climate change affected and changing aspects of emergency management systems so we are better able to help communities across the country. host: what changes do you think need to be made? guest: there is a long list. i would call for conveyance of emergency management reform. i mean everything from the federal government to state and local government needs to be making changes here and we also need to be thinking across the emergency management mission. emergency management is responsible for not only saving and recovery but for preparing for the responses and recovery and also didn't mitigation to try to prevent impacts from

these disasters and try to minimize our risk across the country. the system has a broad mission. everybody is involved in the system. you see disaster survivors are often called the true first responders. the system needs to be thought of comprehensively. it changes made to one part of the system affects the other part of the system. as we move into the period of time with increasing risk, i think it is really important that we stop and take time to make sure that we are making changes that are actually going to address the very real problems and shortcomings of the system. host: we are talking with samantha montano, who can take your questions and comments about the role of first responders in disaster preparedness and response.

if you live in the eastern and central part of the country dial in at (202) 748-8001, mountain and pacific, (202) 748-8000, and if you have been impacted by a hurricane, we want to know your story or dial in at (202) 748-8002. you can join us in a text with your first name and city and state at (202) 748-8003. let's begin with the role of fema. what is it that they do when it comes to natural disasters? guest: so fema is in charge of coordinating the federal efforts to emergency management across mitigation prepared and -- preparedness response and recovery. fema sets the direction for the rest of the country and what the approach to emergency management is going to be. they are responsible for being the backup for local and state

governments when it is needed. they are also responsible for coordinating the federal elements of the response. it is not only fema that is responding within the federal government. most federal agencies at some point will find themselves involved in a disaster. fema is in charge of helping them navigate that. host: when the florida governor says, "we are in charge in the state," what does he mean? guest: i don't know exactly what he means. it is typical for local and state governments to be the ones who are coordinating on site. fema sees their role in all cases as being extra support for what locals are doing. and here you see the state government taking on maybe a bigger role fulfilling the work

that local and county emergency management agencies are doing. host: what does fema not do? guest: fema does not make anybody hole after a disaster. i think that is one really major misconception especially with forums that i have seen. fema will provide some aid to survivors. we have seen that with the 700 $50 initial cash infusion for folks -- $750 initial cash infusion for folks. and also the money they are making available through individual programs for things like housing. the amount of money you will get from fema is not meant to be enough to actually have you fully recover from a disaster. they are there to try and fill some of the emergency gaps that individuals have. host: who does make you whole?

does anyone make you whole? guest: unfortunately, the way our recovery system is set up in the u.s., the responsibility of getting you through a recovery is you. there are resources through fema and other government agencies like the small business administration has a loans that people may be able to access if they are eligible. then we have the nonprofit groups that work on rebuilding and other aspects of the recovery who will help to an extent. but our system is reliant on people having insurance to pay for the bulk of those recovery costs. we have seen in parts of north carolina, unfortunately a lot of people in this country do not have the type of hazard insurance that they needed to be able to rely on that as their

primary recovery source. unfortunately what we have seen in disaster after disaster is that people get thrown into this complex system and try to navigate it as best they can but often fall through the cracks and it takes a really long time for them to be able to accumulate the resources that are needed for them to feel like they have reached the point of recovery. host: the new york times, after floods soaring premiums become a hot election issue. in north carolina, a proposed 42% rate increase raises the stakes in the race for commissioner there. that is what the state of north carolina is facing after hurricane helene. an issue before the hurricanes hit, to hurricanes in two weeks and florida wasn't dealing with having insurance for the residence there for the hurricanes. what are your thoughts about

where insurance companies are in this country in the climate crisis that you wrote about? guest: i think insurance is one of the biggest issues when it comes to the impact of the climate crisis because insurance is what affects our overall economic well-being and affects our housing. insurance is at the center of this crisis. historically, insurance said that flooding was not an insurable risk for them, meaning they didn't feel like it would be financially beneficial for them to cover flooding which is why congress created the national flood insurance program which is a federally backed insurance program. i think that although it was done it many decades ago was

actually something set up to be able to better manage the climate crisis in severe flooding impacts we can expect to see. the challenge here is that there are modifications needed for the national flood insurance program and one of the biggest ones is increasing the number of people who are brought into it. not enough people across the country have flood insurance and there are several reasons for that. one of the most urgent things is getting more people into the national flood insurance program. past that program, you also have issues with wildfire insurance in parts of the west coast and having a homeowners insurance crisis in parts of louisiana. we are seeing this in different insurance areas and it is one that i believe has escalated to

the point that congress is probably in the best position to intervene on. so far this has been handled primarily at a state level to the extent it has been handled but at least there are conversations at the state level. given what the future looks like and how critically financially this insurance piece is in the impact it could have two other core parts of our economy, like the real estate market, this is something we need to be proactive in addressing, particularly for individual survivors who are now trying to navigate that insurance. host: reuters in the recent report in recent days about hurricane milton, could cost 68 $100 billion in insured losses.

this is from analysts and reported by reuters. they also talk about the situation in florida, high risk state from 41 florida insurers have declared bankruptcy or have otherwise failed since 2003 were 37 have failed in the rest of the country over that same time period. found that six of the state's largest providers rejected nearly 50% of their claims in 2023 and is an unusually high figure. let's get the calls. sarah in south carolina. you are up first. caller: a comment, as i was sitting here waiting, the guest actually he said what i was going to say. i want to thank the guest for her work during hurricane katrina, because my family went

through that devastating event. judas confirmed a few minutes ago that in order for the average person to get immediate assistance during an emergency disaster is to rely first on your local, second on your estate and then the national government. for some reason, all of the callers and articles i am at reading, people are downing the national government. it is the local government. that is why it is so important for you to know who your local representatives are. finally, i wanted to compare what she said, in a school you have a superintendent, principal and teacher. if something breaks out in the classroom, do you skip the principal and go straight to the superintendent? we don't skip the local and go straight to the federal.

and thank you for what you are doing. host: samantha montano, talk about that a little more. we also heard from a previous color that on the local level he is not seeing the planning he believes should be done ahead of these type of storms. guest: emergency management at the local level is absolutely critical. unfortunately, across the country, we have seen a dramatic underinvestment in our local emergency management agencies. there are many parts of the country where communities only have part-time emergency managers where the fire chief is pulling double duty. in this moment of climate crisis, there should be no such thing as a part-time emergency manager. community needs staff who are trained, educated and have experience in how to do all aspects of emergency management.

and doing so to build out the system at a local level and state level will also take some of the pressure off of fema. if you have a strong local response, that is going to enable fema to use less resources, to make sure they aren't really just fulfilling the backup role to local and state rather than feeling like they need to come in and take over and coordinate because the system has broken down. host: follow up on reuters reporting about the insurance situation in florida as the sunshine state wakes to the devastation of hurricane milton. the state has set up a nonprofit citizens property corp to help people who cannot find help through private sector. it is now the largest provider in the state of florida.

done in michigan, good morning. caller: good morning. i want to say my prayers to all of my friends at the country club village where the tornado came through and killed four people last night. evidently, i got a text last night that we lost our home and the lady who watches it for us told that. what do i do here in michigan. it is not insured. they wanted $4000 of insurance for $25,000 worth of coverage on our mobile home that was probably worth $60,000 or $65,000. we would just self-insure. but now my home is gone and car

is gone. what do i do in michigan? does wait what to do in a few days. is there somebody i can call and get a hold of? am i responsible for the cleanup of my house that is gone? i don't even know if it is on the pad. i had a car under the carport and couldn't get a hold of anyone. i will let you go. but everybody pray for people along the turnpike spanish lake country club village, portofino shores and all areas affected by the terrible tornadoes. host: samantha montano, can you respond? guest: you can definitely start the process now. what i would recommend doing is going to the fema website, more pacifically it is disasterassistance.gov and you can create a profile on there

and you should be able to start with the initial $750 which might be a little help. it sounds like you are in a position to do is ask who our neighbor if they would mind going over and it taking as many pictures and video of your property as possible. a really important step is documenting everything. as i mentioned, the recovery process is complicated to navigate and that is when you are dealing with fema, insurance, sba loans, you will be asked for documentation. start gathering as much of that as possible. host: wayne in hanover, pennsylvania. caller: hello. host: we are listening to you. caller: first of all, after watching news and listening to lindsey graham, the senator of south carolina, he was almost in

tears saying that fema was out of money due to flying illegals and paying for hotels all over the country and setting them up. there was another fund he is going to go to ask to see if he can get some money from to help these people in georgia. is that true? that fema spent that money and now they are going to go to other resources to pull the money out? host: samantha montano, do you want to take that? guest: no, fema is not spending any funding that is not for disaster survivors. any migrant sheltering related issues. the confusion here is that congress had asked fema to administer a program for migrants sheltering which included some funding. fema administered that program

as they were asked to do by congress. that funding was separate. that funding was never meant for disaster survivors and was not part of the disaster relief fund which is where it fema draws the relief funding from when there has been a presidential disaster declaration. host: teresa and dandridge, tennessee. caller: good morning. i am glad you are talking about the money allocated to the migrants. i am not being disrespectful. and i have a politico advertisement, they get millions from fema from asylum-seekers and that was in 2023. there was an article, the department of home and security which approved fema announced that $333 million allocation that went to communities along

the southern border. new york received 30 million out of that. the press secretary said behind the podium that $800 million from fema was given to the illegal migrants for housing. and you all sit there and want to call it a conspiracy theory and deny it. host: did you hear samantha montano talk about a program that congress asked fema to administer? caller: it is one pot. i get one set of money when it is allocated. plus, the democrats went to congress and asked to have the money allocated to illegals instead of disaster relief. the $750.

it is not donald trump who said all you are going to get is the $750, and i live 20 miles from where the road that the road has been taken out and people are being turned down for that. if you don't have the insurance you don't have that. it wasn't trump who said that. right after they said they were giving $750, they, and said we are out of money and we don't have the money for anymore disaster relief. congress is going to have to come in and give us more money. what do you expect the people do -- people to believe about the $750? host: samantha montano guest: unfortunately, this is a lot of the information we have been hearing. i just explained the relief funding is separate from the other migrant programs. you can't look at the fema

budget and look at the congressional record and see how that money was allocated. the other thing i will say here is that the 750 dollars is that initial wave of emergency funding for folks. perhaps somebody has been gotten denied because they didn't have all of the information that was needed. if that happens, and we see that with individual assistance through fema and others, if you are denied bite fema for individual assistance, you can appeal that -- denied by fema for that individual assistance, you can appeal that. you can figure out what was missing and what it was that was preventing them from approving it. this is extra red tape that survivors have to go through and is something that hopefully it fema continues to work at addressing. if you are denied, you need to keep appealing. you may need to appeal more than

once but typically if you do that, you will be able to get that assistance. host: from the washington post, talking about the $750 saying it is immediate and for clothing, food, baby formula and other essentials. then they say it, it is just the start, disaster survivors are eligible to receive up to four $2500 in financial housing assistance which can be used to cover the cost of home repairs or up to 18 months of rent. applications could take longer to process. could you talk about that? guest: the next wave of funding from hurricane helene will be looking to access is for housing largely. so what you need to do there is >> hurricane update from governor ron desantis. >> some of the major tornadoes.

probably more tornado watches on the storm than any i can remember. you see the damage here. down the road in the country club, five confirmed fatalities? >> we have five fatalities. >> this is a tragic thing because it is not like -- what do you do when you have a 20 oh, duck and cover. it happened so quickly. those things are strong and powerful. we are surveying some of the damage that was done on the east coast of florida and in the process of assessing some of the damage throughout the state from the storm surge on the west coast. as of this morning, we have had -- i know the state has been involved in definitely dozens of rescues. i know our local partners are doing, we have been supportive of everywhere around the state including here and we will

continue to do that. my sense is that will stabilize and will be on a pretty good footing if we are not already. as people know, we had massive power outages which was expected. this is probably similar to hurricanes arm a and in in -- hurricane irma and hurricane ian. it is about 3.4 that are out. just do the math. you are over 4 million that have lost power since the start of this storm. fortunately florida, we pre-staged 50,000 linemen throughout the state of florida and oaks are going to work. it is not as easy to do when you just had hurricane helene, there are still hundreds of thousands of people without power in north carolina and georgia. helene in florida, he did 2.4

million restorations in record time. that is not the norm. finding the linemen given what they are doing now, we brought them in from as far away as california. those folks are there should there are assessments being done about what needs to be done. when you have downed power lines, that is easy for them to do. they put the pull back up and reconnect it. if the entire system needs a build -- needs a rebuild, that would take a little longer. our member in hurricane ian which was stronger than this one, hit fort myers beach and spl substation on fort myers beach at ground zero was fine. they could have had people hooked up to the power days later. people's homes could not accept it because of the storm surge. all of that is going on. we are happy to pre-stage those resources. we are assessing the need for things like points of distribution. we typically will set up these pods with water, food, tarps,

things of that nature. we will be doing some pods. a lot of this is based on with the county has asked us for. i think you're going to see a lot of the stores and gas stations reopen quickly. at least that is our hope. we are looking at the damage done to the ports in florida. east coast i don't think there was much. port of tampa seems like it is ok. manatee, that seems to be the same. we have to keep bringing fuel into the state. there is a lot on the dockside still that can be brought out. we have 1.5 million gallons of diesel on hand we can use for the state and to help replenish and we have about 1.1 million gallons of regular gasoline in our arsenal. we have deputized the florida highway patrol to escort the fuel tankers with sirens to get to all of the gas stations.

you are probably going to be ok on the east coast of florida. some of the paste -- the places in the tampa bay area when there were evacuations, everyone was going to get gas and some people were filling up additional tanks with gallon containers to which is fine but the demand went through the roof so these guys ran out. we had enough you in the state. they did not have the delivery schedule to replenish it so you had some that went out. we had about 130 escorts with florida highway patrol bringing this in. my hope is there is minimal interruption with fuel on the back side of the storm. a lot of people have been working very hard. as you know, we have been doing this for two and a half weeks from the time we declared state of emergency before hurricane helene and in the map -- the aftermath of helene and we worked on helene for a week in terms of the response and the

recovery and then we have to do another state of emergency for hurricane milton. people have been working 24/7 particularly on the west coast of florida. we have a lot of first responders working really hard. kevin and his team. all of our state agencies get mobilized when we have these types of events and they have been working nonstop. my hat is off to everyone that has worked hard to unfortunately we have had fatalities from this tornado here. we don't have confirmed reports of other fatalities throughout the rest of the state but we may as the day goes on. my sense is a lot of the people did leave who were in the evacuation zone. we had over 80,000 people staying in shelters. you had massive heavy traffic on the interstates over the last of -- last seven days. people were deciding to get out of dodge.

we also can say the storm did not produce the worst case scenario in terms of storm surge . about 24 hours ago, the fear was a category four going into tampa bay producing about 15 feet of storm surge. that is an area of ellis county peninsula and hillsborough county that is very low lying. very susceptible to storm surge. that is not end up happening. the storm did weekend before it hit land and it did bear further to the east and south of tampa bay so a lot of what they had was the wind sucked water out of tampa bay. you did have storm surge in sarasota, venice and down the west coast of florida and significant storm surge but not the worst case scenario of what

we were looking at. for example, helene, we had storm surge in taylor county in north florida that was about 20 feet in places like horseshoe beach. that is the real deal. we have examples of american history where you had a lot more of that, 24, 25 feet. to have 18 to 20, that is a deal. does not mean there is not going to be a lot of damage. does not mean there will not be a lot we will have to contend with. in terms of what we were prepped for, we have an abundance of resources. my sense is will be able to release a lot of the search-and-rescue resources we have had on hand very soon and get back to getting everybody back on line with power, they sure the gasoline is flowing and everything. everyone has had -- has done a

good job up to this point. i will let kevin come in and say a few things. >> thank you, governor. this situation here where we are at, the strength of what happened here is organically our state mutual aid system. the first group that was on hair was the palm beach county search-and-rescue team should that is not even officially a part of our state search-and-rescue team system. maybe we want to change that in the future but that type three team which is a self-funded 100% by palm beach fire and rescue was the first ones to the situation of followed up by miami-dade task force one and in ohio and virginia task force. that is the strength of not just the state of emergency response but also outside states helping states. some people were a little critical of their governor sending state assets up to north

carolina but right here when we needed them, we got all those guys back. immediately, virginia, ohio, california and other states from around the country had their assets right ear. this is one of the examples sheriff was telling us. he was grateful for those assets being here so quickly but that is the strength of the state of the emergency response team. we are not going anywhere. this is the first day of many to come probably over the next couple of years. it is going to take us a long time to get the recovery done. we are not going to let bureaucracy get in the way. we are going to get this done as quickly as we can. thank you for your leadership should gov. desantis: you want to give an update on what you think we are going to get from fema for debris removal? >> we are going to get into the debris move will business. we are going to supplement where we need to supplement but we had a good conversation with

administrator criswell in florida and is on her way in this general direction. she is working with us on how we can ensure debris gets picked up quickly. if you are in the private sector, how do we incentivize to get stuff picked up faster bringing people from around the country to get that done. looking at a mutual aid effort where we may bring in city and county assets that may have the coal trucks and the loader trucks from around the state of florida and maybe even outside the state of florida to help us get that stuff picked up. she is very helpful in getting those things done, making sure we got everything we need. we will be submitting hopefully by this afternoon now we got post landfall and we have some data, we will be summoning through the governor's signature a major disaster expedited request so we can get those federal funds turned on and start looking for reimbursement.

we're not going to wait on the fence for reimbursement. we are going to do what we need to do, get people in florida back on their feet. thank you, sir. gov. desantis: this whole debris, i mean you had in pinellas they did not want to do the debris as fast because they were not sure about the paperwork and fema reimbursed. you have to get the debris off and these storms because of the way it is done incentivizes it to go a lot longer with the debris. sometimes the debris in these major storms is around for a year and how ridiculous is that? what kevin is doing and i think the administration wants to work with us is to align these incentives so we can get the job better. you would think the private sector would do it better than government. at least that is what i would think and yet on this debris after helene when we saw how much was there and we knew another storm was coming, we got our department of transportation assets from florida.

we were bringing trucks in from all over the state doing their normal duties and we surged them to the barrier islands off the gulf coast of florida and we did like 3000 truckloads of debris, reduce the debris i 50% in 72 hours. we did round-the-clock. had 24/7 shifts going. that is of the sense of urgency. that may be an extreme like doing 24/7 but you should be able to get the debris done earlier than that so i'm hoping they can do this in a way that is going to make sense so the local governments can bring their contractors in and clean up the debris. we will see what the debris was left on this storm. i don't think we have a real good sense about how much compared to the other. . i think the storm surge overall was not as high as the others but i also think it probably hit, the winds hit more of the florida peninsula so i think in

terms of tree damage you are going to see a lot of that and we had more tornadoes for milton then we did for helene. we will see how that shakes up. i think getting a better posture on how they do the debris reimbursement would make a lot of sense and i think it would move this process along a lot further. it is also a morale thing. we get hit with a storm. seeing debris is a constant reminder you got hit. when things get picked up, people feel better about it so we have to make sure they get that job done. >> do we have any questions? >> governor, have you spoken with the white house about the response here? gov. desantis: i spoke with the president this morning. kevin was on the phone with me. the administrator of fema was in the office with us in tallahassee at the emergency operations center he said he wants to be helpful so if we have a request, he said

something his way and he wants to help us get the job done so i appreciate being able to collaborate across the federal, state and local government and work together to put the people first. >> [indiscernible] gov. desantis: i don't know the answer to that. you do have these tornadoes, the warnings, how many actually touched down is probably a different one. what i have seen so far is that st. lucie had the most tornado damage of anyone i have seen. >> we know we had over 120 tornado warnings state wide. it is going to be higher than that. of those 20 oh confirmations come from your local weather forecasting office. those individuals that come around and confirm those tornadoes, we have four meteorologists that said we had in the neighborhood of 20 to 25

radar indicated tornadoes. that means is they see a debris signature in the circulation what the weather forecasting offices of the national weather service will verify those tornadoes. gov. desantis: excuse me? >> was that the county alone? >> statewide. >> two deaths in the spanish lake area. where was the fifth death?. >> we are sifting through the debris. they recently right before the conference located another victim unfortunately. we are going to continue through this. this is during the storm. he sent down the national guard. all we are trying to stay safe, these men and women are driving through the storm to get here and they worked throughout the night and their actions saved lives.

>> [indiscernible] gov. desantis: i think that will be assessed today. i can tell you whatever happened, had we not done what we did with the 72 hour project to take every truck in florida and help these counties and cities, some of these contractors were doing the debris and then they left and went to north carolina because they could make more money there. others were working like bankers hours and i'm think to myself how the hell is that something that is acceptable? we came in and we said not only are we going to send these assets, it is going to be 24/7. the first night, go there and the county, they did not have the landfill open 24/7. our guys cut the locks. not just the state trucks. you had private citizens with their ford f2 50 pickup trucks loading debris.

massive amounts. so we got to keep it going. the next night, there were two entrances and they closed one of the entrances. there were 300 cars in line so we somehow rigged that and opened that up. it is like, where is the sense of urgency? it may be that this debris ended up not causing much more damage but if it did cause more damage, i can tell you had we not come in and did what we did, he would have had a lot more. i tell kevin, i'm like we want to be helpful and we will be helpful but the state's job is not to pick up the debris. that is the local community's responsibility. this was an extraordinary circumstance where we came in and did it. i don't think i think there was enough debris that i don't think you could have gotten it all in two weeks realistically, but

there clearly was not a sense of urgency after the first storm hit. and we knew there may be another one and they said just a rainstorm, maybe not, this and that but then by last weekend, by like last friday, we were looking at it like this is real. we have to be serious about it and we did the executive order on saturday. i definitely think we helped things by doing that and as of now, i am not sure about structural damage on any of the roads. i'm going to go over to siesta key and sarasota after this. that was ground zero of where the surge came in. we just repaired and of the roads from longboat key up to annamaria. have we gotten any reports? >> i have not, sir. gov. desantis: we got it back open. we will -- we may have to do more repairs on that. there may be small bridges drought the state. the big bridges we have in the tampa bay area.

danby, howard franklin, sunshine skyway is going to be open if it is not already. courtney campbell will be open as soon they remove the debris and finish the debris removal. all being told, you are going to have those major bridges back open if they are not already. >> [indiscernible] gov. desantis: no because we do our -- we have got florida national guard, florida fish and wildlife, florida state guard, florida highway patrol, florida department of law enforcement and they will do their own rescues by themselves but then we also have the local outfits. the sheriff's department in sarasota and bradenton, police departments, fire departments. sometimes we do joint operations but a lot of the times if someone calls 911, they are

going. my sense would be an kevin could chime in on this, we probably have less demand for rescues on milton then we did on helene. do you agree? >> i agree. do you have a number of federal and state assets doing search-and-rescue in addition to everything the governor said. the florida urban search-and-rescue teams are associated with fire departments across the state of florida. all of those are in the fight. they are out there actively assessing and looking for people. they will do door-to-door especially in the land for area and the landfall path. we have them stretched from st. lucie all the way over to where landfall happened and all the way up to the northeast coast of florida. once we finish that, to your question i would say there are hundreds of rescues ongoing but to the governor's point as we were driving in today, i see sheriff chronister doing active rescues in hillsborough county. i see active rescues going on in pinellas county.

they are going on organically at the local level, the state level and the federal teams here supplementing our state's ongoing response are also here. gov. desantis: i think for helene, i think the first 24 to 36 hours, i think statewide oaklands to combine, there were thousands of rescues. my sins would be we are in the hundreds of rescues statewide so far. but you know, i think you are going to see because we had more in land flooding, you are going to see some floods happen in the ensuing days and you may have to have some people go in and do some rescues. you may see it be ongoing. can we >> have an update on the federal level -- >> can we have an update on the federal level? >> is the governor spoke about, fema administrator criswell is heading here on the ground. the governor has done a fantastic job.

to the sheriff's department across the state, state representative, state senators, florida highway patrol, florida national guard. everybody made sure they could do every prevention and they are working with fema. that is the update from the federal side gov. desantis: gov. desantis:. i think the notice for this said administrator fema was going to be here. that was the intention i think her plane got diverted to sarasota so i think she is going to be at our sarasota briefing when we do that later today. >> what damage have you addressed in st. lucie county by unincorporated farmland? >> unincorporated farmland is agricultural. we have not had any reports of structural damage because it is agricultural. we are focusing on rescue missions and that area is to that half square mile radius in

within fort pierce that we are doing the active rescues. everyone else is accounted for although there is damage throughout the county. they cultural area is agricultural area so we will get to that. we are prioritizing things right now so it is still an active rescue mission. >> [indiscernible] >> we are going to attribute those deaths to that specific area we are doing active rescues in. we are focusing on trying to rescue as many people as we can with the national guard and amazing men and women of the sheriffs's office and fire rescue. we were able to get 25 people out of there and get them in a safe area but the work is not over. they worked through the storm turn they worked before the storm, during the storm and they are going to continue to work until everyone who needs to be rescued is able to be rescued. > with every hurricane tornadoes are a concern. have you ever seen something of this magnitude as far as the number of tornadoes and the damage they did?

gov. desantis: every hurricane, we have a lot of tornadoes spun off. we may have had more tornado warnings on this one than the typical hurricane but to see what happened here sadly, that is not something that is uncommon. when mother nature -- this is churning, things churn off these weather systems and it is devastating. this is unfortunately something that is kind of normal with the big storm. he probably had more warnings then we would with normal storms and especially the ones that come across the peninsula like this. you have east coast of florida, palm beach, st. lucie, a bunch of stuff happened over here and you were hundreds of miles away from the eye of the storm. those tornadoes were spun off. that is to be expected to a certain extent. >> [indiscernible]

gov. desantis: i think you can go back and find tornadoes for all of history for short. florida, how does this storm rate in kind of the history of storms? i fitted -- i think it hit with a barometric pressure of 950 millibars when it hit. which i think if you go back to 1851, there have probably been 27 hurricanes. the lower the barometric pressure, the stronger it is. i think there have been 27 hurricanes that have had lower barometric pressure at landfall than milton did and 17 occurred prior to 1960. the most powerful hurricane on record since the 1850's in the state of florida occurred in the 1980's, the labor day hurricane. the barometric. pressure on that was 892 millibars. it totally wiped out the keys.

we have never seen anything like it and that remains head and shoulders above anything we have had in the state of florida. the most deadly hurricane we had was in 1928. the okeechobee hurricane killed over 4000 people. fortunately we are not going to have anything close to that on this hurricane but even ones like hurricane ian where it was not even close to that. i think people should put this in perspective. they try to take different things that app and with tropical weather and act like it is -- there is nothing new under the sun. this is something the state has dealt with for its entire history and it is something we will continue to deal with. what has changed is we have 23 million people. a storm that hits is likely to hit more people and property bennett would have 100 years ago. the potential for that damage has grown.

what has also changed is our ability to pre-stage the assets. we never did the pre-staging of power assets until i became governor. now people expect that but that was not what was done in the past and that is why people would be out with power for three weeks when we had hurricanes. we have to pay to get these guys to come in but my view is the quicker you get everybody hooked up, the better off the economy is going to be so why don't we just do that? having the search-and-rescue, having the state guard, all of these different things are bringing different tools to the fight at allows us to respond more effectively. if we had the tools we had in 1928 to fight hurricane ian or some of these, you would've had higher death tolls. there is no question about that. >> how many storms form as rapidly as they have between helene and milton? gov. desantis: i think most people remember 2004 where we had -- it seemed like you had

them every other week in 2004. we had from 2006 to 2016, we had no hurricanes at all in florida. there been times where we had a lot. the 1940's we were getting hit a lot. more recently we have had a spate of more. that is the nature of it. it has a lot of similarities to 2004 in terms of the season. >> a lot of folks, particularly quite a few who trust you and look to you for information are engaging in some misinformation about some entities controlling the weather. can you set the record straight? they believe someone is controlling the weather. gov. desantis: look, if i could control the weather, i would do 78 and sunny year-round. we get that a lot in florida. coming up in the months but there would be no reason to ever

do. this is on both sides. some people think government can do this and others think it is all because of fossil fuels. the reality is what we see, there is precedent in history. it is hurricane season ted you're going to have tropical weather. we hope that a lot of the tropical weather are fish storms in the atlantic that never impact us. anything that gets in the gulf of mexico, it has to hit something. maybe it hits mexico. maybe it hits louisiana. florida is one. when they bend east, we are the ones. there is nothing new under the sun. these are natural occurrences. we will deal with tropical weather for as long as we are floridians. >> about the role of carbon emissions? gov. desantis: i've already addressed the historical record of the storms in florida.

like i said, our biggest storm, our strongest storm by far remains labor day from the 1930's. we are going to go to sarasota after this. we are going to inspect the damage. see what the needs are. i appreciate what the sheriff and his teams are doing to help the citizens here. we are saddened to see a 20 oh inflict such a serious damage including loss of life. these are things that are very tough to withstand. you don't get a lot of warning on them and they are very devastating. tragically to lose five really is tough for this community. our hearts go out to everybody who has been affected by this and we are happy to be supportive of the rescue efforts and we will continue to be supportive going forward.

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