mr. hogan: i think it is a terrible idea, and you know who agrees with my opponent is donald trump. she and donald trump agree that we should change the rules, long-standing rules that require bipartisan cooperation, and change things so you can jam things that are on a party line, partisan vote. you have to be careful what you wish for, because you know who will be jamming things through. i like the idea of finding that bipartisan compromise but i will work with susan collins, lisa murkowski on my side to get that done. chuck: you think 60 votes should be -- mr. hogan: i think making washington more partisan and allowing things to be jammed through by one vote, which she has been complaining about most of the thing, now she says she wants to do it for this one thing, but when the pendulum swings back every two years or four years, everyone will push their other chuck: things.

when it comes to lowering the votes, that concerns you? ms. alsobrooks: i talked to senator cardin, and he says whoever is in the majority control of the agenda, and he believes the filibuster has been used in such a way we no longer have the deliberative body we used to have. it becomes destructive. we really have to form and abolish the filibuster, so i agree that we are going to have to do something. we see the progress has been thwarted. chuck: all right, deborah has the next question. deborah: i would like to talk about gun violence. it was about a month ago when maryland witnessed a fatal shooting, the same week that a shooting in georgia killed two teachers and students. gun violence is the leading cause of death, and do you believe the government has a role especially in the nation's schools?

chuck: go ahead, mr. governor. mr. hogan: yeah. absolutely there is a role. i'm for universal background checks. i have always done everything possible to keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill and out of the hands of criminals. i support a bipartisan, commonsense assault weapons ban. as governor, i signed a red flag law to keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill. i sighed a bump stop. when there was a school shooting in maryland in great mills, in st. mary's county, i passed the safe to learn act, which requires school resource officers at every single high school in maryland to try to keep people safe, and i committed to fostering that exact thing bill at the federal level. unfortunately, my opponent has pulled the school safety out of schools, and the bill is no longer requiring it. deborah: governor, what is a common sense assault weapons ban? mr. hogan: i would support an

assault weapons ban. we need to get bipartisan agreement on getting a bill passed. ms. alsobrooks: let me just correct misinformation, i have not pulled any school resource officers out of the schools. in fact, "the washington post" just complimented me in their endorsement of me. it is also the case that the former governor complimented me two years ago on my leadership on this issue, public safety, saying i was a leader across the state. the fact that the number one killer of our children as gun violence and that we as a country have done nothing about it is shameful. there is an opportunity, i would be in favor of eliminating assault weapons, removing ghost guns from our streets, and in reality, the former governor did not have the courage come as a governor. he in fact veto legislation that would have created a waiting period for long guns and outright refused to sign the ban on ghost guns. he could have helped us on this

issue but instead kowtow to the gun lobby and vetoed a band that would have created that waiting period for long guns and did not support it. yeah. mr. hogan:mr. hogan: it is half-truths and trying to control those -- confuse people. on ghost guns, there was legislation, and there was just not an event for it. we already have the toughest legislation in america, yet it is not stopping 100% increase in murders in places like prince georges county, so we've got to take the shooters off the street. along gun bill was a hunting rifle. nobody in baltimore city had been shooting people with hunting rifles. it was illegal handguns and ghost guns, which i was supportive of. chuck: a quick follow-up, the george floyd justice into what restrict chokeholds and no knock

warrants. would you support the act? mr. hogan: i can tell you one thing i'm very concerned about them and i probably have spoken out more about this than anyone in america. when the defund the police movement started, i was the loudest critic against a, saying you were going to defund the police is like saying you are going to improve education by defunding the school. it was absurd and ridiculous. i passed the first bill in america, a refund of the police initiative, so they could hire more officers, so they can train better, pay for de-escalation techniques. my opponent has cut the prince georges county police, they are down, crime is out of control, 500% increase in carjackings. chuck: ms. alsobrooks, the george floyd justice in policing act, would you support it? ms. alsobrooks: i would.

i was law-enforcement, the chief law enforcement officer in prince georges county saw 50% lower crime. i increased police funding by 23%, and when he talks about the ghost guns, he said it did pass, but it is like so much of his record, because we had a strong democratic legislature, thank god for them, he's not going to annapolis coming going to washington and will not have the same support he had. we could have gotten anything done if he did not have that democratic legislature. chuck: i want to turn to issue of immigration. should prince georges county remain a century city echo ms. alsobrooks: prince georges county is not a sanctuary city. a can't in the executive actually created a policy that violent offenders, that we cooperate with the federal government, that we notify them when we release violent offenders. i also think about this issue,

sat in courtrooms and prosecuted gang members who are in ms 13. i have cooperated with the federal government. i know the former governor lied about my record on this. chuck: how would you describe it? is it something the council did, that they did not want local law enforcement cooperating on everything? ms. alsobrooks: they did not. i change the policy to ensure that people who were accused of gang activity or violence, that we notified the federal government. chuck: ok, you have one minute, mr. hogan. mr. hogan: first of all, with respect to crime in general, i have the unanimous endorsement of the maryland fop and nearly every single law enforcement organization in the state could because they do not think she did such a great job on crime. prince georges county police officers are the ones complaining about how things have gotten out of control. on i.c.e. detainers, it is not true. you are the largest jurisdiction

in maryland that refuses to work with federal law-enforcement. when i.c.e. requested a container for a violent rapist, murderer, or gang member, you do not cooperate. your policy is breaking federal law. chuck: you have 30 seconds. ms. alsobrooks: it is not true, when he says about not cooperating with federal government. it is a live feed i change to the policy. furthermore, i the only person on the stage who stood in a courtroom them and i prosecuted and convicted murderers, rapists, and gang members, and i did so with the police department. i did so with law enforcement. the partnership we created helped us do a tremendous job right now in prince georges county where they have lower crime in every category except one where we are up one point. chuck: i want to give you both one minute to answer this simple question. would you legalize marijuana on a federal level? mr. hogan: yeah.

i was for medical marijuana, but i never really considered legalizing recreational marijuana on a national basis. i think many states have already done it, including maryland, but we had not seen the full impact of that yet. some and law enforcement are concerned that we have a lot of deaths for drunk driving. i think we have to make similar advances before we take a step like that. chuck: so you are not ready to legalize on a federal level? mr. hogan: not at all. ms. alsobrooks: the people of maryland have spoken on this issue and legalize it here. i would support it on a federal level. chuck: you had some hesitation at first. ms. alsobrooks: the hesitation is i think it is an awful idea to have children, i'm deeply concerned about the impact of marijuana on children, so i've always said, whenever adults use , recreationally or otherwise, is for adults to make a decision, but i think we ought to be protective of our children in the same way that we have been with alcohol and other things.

we've watched our children suffer, and i think we should be really cautious and be concerned about our children having access to marijuana and other substances. chuck: this next question, one minute for both of you, should federal government workers still be allowed to work from a one or two days a week, or is it time that they return to the office five days a week? ms. alsobrooks: i support having our federal workers be able to work from home once or twice a week. by the way, i'm the granddaughter is a federal worker who worked very hard to get herself in the federal government. she was a housekeeper, taught herself to type on her refrigerator so she could get that federal job. our federal workers do a tremendous job. we know that if republicans gain control, if they put forward project 2025, which anticipates they would eviscerate the federal workforce, would politicize it, would harm our federal workers, including all

130,000 federal workers who live in the state of maryland, but i will be standing up for our federal workers, which is what i have the endorsement of the afp, the federal government employees union, and i will make sure we are defending and protecting their rights. chuck: mr. hogan, in question. mr. hogan: with respect to 2025 -- project 2025 come on the leading republican voice against that. i wrote an opinion in "the washington post," and i called out all the crazy things they were trying to do. that is the beauty of having someone in the party being willing to stand up to their leaders. i'm not sure when you've ever stood up to party leaders, but i've done it when it was hard, and i've done it over and over again, and i will continue to. i agree, we have the largest concentration of federal employees, and for them to try to politicize the federal government was just absurd and ridiculous, which is why i was so strong in voicing my opposition bid with respect to getting workers back to work, certainly there are some things that can be done remotely.

it has been a disaster for the washington metropolitan area when we have empty buildings everywhere, restaurants close, because very few people are getting back to work. when i was governor, i required people to get back to work, because you got to public service and interacting with folks and a lot of jobs if you are not there. other things you can do home. chuck: would washington, d.c. gun town economy be a factor whether -- downtown economy be a factor whether workers return to work? to the office? ms. alsobrooks: it is interesting to get the governor sadie criticized the party, -- say he criticized the party. when mitch mcconnell called him, he put the jersey on, says he disagrees with all of these various aspects of it, and the reality is, again, his mere election would empower the people whose policies who says -- who he says he disagrees with so strongly.

blasting president kamala harris they had a majority. chuck: next question, i will start with you, mr. hogan. on the issue of transportation, as governor, you brought some transportation projects involve more, the baltimore's redline. there's been the purple line in the d.c. metro area. how would you handle finding of maryland's transportation objects as senator? would you be a champion of getting more funding? mr. hogan: i'm proud of my record on infrastructure. when i ran for governor, we had crumbling roads and bridges, no money had been invested. that's one of the reasons i got elected, because i promised to do something about that. we move forward on nearly every transportation project across the state, resurfaced almost 90% of the state highway system. no governor has invested more in transit or inroads than when i was governor. when i was chairman of the national governors association, i got all 50 governors to agree

on an infrastructure, and that became part of the bipartisan interceptor bill, which i strongly supported. i brought senators and congressmen together to get it done, and when installed, i pushed republicans and democrats to get the bipartisan infrastructure bill done. republicans only wanted to do roads and bridges. democrats wanted to add $4 trillion of social spending, and we reach an agreement and helped get that deal done, which i think was good for america. ms. alsobrooks: the former governor did something so shameful. we know the number one issue because of state's economic opportunity, and having the opportunity to invest in the redline that would have created not only attracted jobs and opportunities to baltimore but would have allowed people to have access to these opportunities, and he did something of governor in history has ever done in maryland, returned $900 million to the federal government to aspen to redistribute it and send it to other states. this not only crushed that opportunity, but it was unprecedented. furthermore, what we know is

that he was not -- i think we need someone who can treat our whole state can i work, conversely, to draw the fbi headquarters to maryland, brain 7500 jobs here, cybersecurity and technology, i drew 100 million dollars near the new carrollton metro station, and i even worked to attract $400 million to the blue line to create jobs and opportunities. that is what i would do as a senator, not send money back to the federal government. i will be fighting for every part of our state to attract every single dollar we can to the state of maryland. mr. hogan: well, i ran for governor promising not to do the redline. "the washington post" editorial boards that it never made any transportation or economic sense. most people in baltimore did not support it. it was a $7 billion project. it was not going to accomplish much of anything. and we had $900 million. nobody in our transportation fund wanted to move forward on it. what we need to move forward on

now is fixing the key bridge, the howard street tunnel, fixing the traffic relief plan that was just killed because the transportation trust fund has been drained and there's no money to build any project. chuck: we have technically come to the end. one final question for you, mr. hogan, i know you said you wrote in ronald reagan's name, that you've already voted. if you lived in a state where it is up for grabs -- you said the police did not matter in your state --would you have still voted the same way? mr. hogan: i've never voted for someone i don't believe in. there are a an awful lot of people in america they don't feel like these two folks that are at the top of most tickets are the best people to lead america. that's why we have the ability to write in and take whatever decision you make. i don't plan on moving out of maryland, so i will not speculate on what i would do if i were someone else. ms. alsobrooks: i think the decision not to vote in a presidential election for a

senator is a disqualifier. this job requires votes, tough boats can if you have to make a decision, and for a person who says he can see a bipartisan way forward but was unable to do the most bipartisan thing ever in an election year he says he despises their nominee but cannot bring himself to even vote for vice president harris, and in fact, has a chance to vote in three different elections, rather than stand up, do that right thing, though for a democrat, he voted for a deceased individual and that he will do so a good this election. i think it is instructive of the way he would operate as a senator, unable to make tough calls and to go on to do what he declares is bipartisan. this is the most bipartisan thing you can do. chuck: here's the toughest call i will make you both make. ravens or commanders? ms. alsobrooks: commanders. mr. hogan: [laughter] ravens. chuck: we guessed right.

ms. alsobrooks: thank you to everyone watching. it has been a great joy for me to have represented our state for the last 27 years that i've been proud to fight for our families on every front. fighting to keep our communities safe, fighting to go economic opportunity, fighting to ensure we are caring for every part of our community, providing health care. i built mental health facilities, build a cancer center, broke ground on 18 schools and build 10. i have been fighting every single day to preserve not only our freedom but economic opportunity for every member of our family in maryland. i will do that, making sure we are moving forward, and i will support president kamala harris, making sure that she has the majority that she needs in the senate, so that she can get her agenda across and that she can take our country forward, that we can come up together, the value we share, honor human rights, democracy, freedom, integrity, decency, these are what i believe in, and it is

what i will fight for every day. thank you so much. chuck: thank you. mr. hogan? mr. hogan: thank you all again, thank you for watching tonight. as i said at the beginning, we are going to hear a lot about democrat versus republican, red versus blue, but all i really care about is the red, white and blue and blue, and i think that sending more partisan politicians, making washington more partisan and mortified it is not going to help. the country is way off track. i'm completely fed up with politics as usual. if you want to change things in washington, you will not change things by doing the exact same things you always do. i have a proven track record of standing up and bringing people together, having the courage to stand up to the former president, to the current president, and i will do it to the future president and to republicans or democrats. i'm trying to put people over politics and country over party, and i'm asking the voters of maryland to be willing to do the same bank, and i'm asking for their vote. chuck: thank you both.

that concludes tonight's debate. we would like to thank the two candidates for participating. would also like to thank maryland public television and this terrific studio for hosting us here. thanks for our panelists, tracy wilson, debra wilson, and jeff. for all of my colleagues here at nbc news, nbc washington, wbal, i'm chuck todd. good night. [captions copyright national cable satellit. 2024] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its n content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> tonight, it is a debate for alaska's sole at large district. candidates are replin mary peltola andnick begich. >> republican vice presidential

nominee jd nce spoke at a town ha, moderated by former racecar driver danica trick. he discussed hurricane helene, immigration, homeownership, and kamala harris' presidential campaign. this campaign stop was located in greensboro, north carolina. ♪ danica: welcome welcome to north carolina. sen. vance: is good to be here. [applause]

danica: i would like to ask a personality question to started off with. you have such a strong one, the people here in north carolina have been dealing with a lot, obviously, with the hurricane that just came through florida, and we will touch on a topics today about other things that challenge the american people day in and day out, especially over the last few years. years. so, you are no stranger. i just saw your socks. [laughter] that that's awesome. >> german shepherd paper big german shepherd family. >> that's awesome. speaking of your personality. [laughter] you are no stranger to having challenges in your life having to dig deep and come through to get where you are today. i would love for you to share with us what it is about your

mindset and the tools you used to be able to achieve the great things that you have. >> first of all, thank you for doing this. it is awesome to be here. thank you to north carolina 26 days are going to turn the state read it. god bless you guys. it's a tough question to ask the tough question to answer it's hard to evaluate yourself honestly. yes, i did have a tough life in some ways. my mom struggle with addiction for a big chunk of my early life appeared as raised by my grandmother that we did not have very much money i know it's got a lot of mama lovers out here. i see the book. i think the main thing that allowed me to be able to live in my dreams as we live in the biggest country in the world. i don't think i'm in mind could happen anywhere but in the nine

sites of america. i always had a sense of gratitude. my grandmother could not walk for will toward the ends of her life. she died when she was seven years old which then i thought was old and now it's young. i realize there were so many little ways where, without her love, without her support, without going above and beyond i would not of been here. that recognition, you could let yourself become a victim when times are tough. you could become a little resentful or recognized by the grace of god. and i was able to marry this beautiful woman who is here my lovely wife is with me. everything i want to become a good husband a good dad that was american that was possible she

was a very, very interesting in some ways a contradictory person. she was a person of incredibly profound christian faith. never graduate from high school. she also love the f word. all of things going on with memo at the same time the advice i would give to anybody and i met a young man today praised by his grandmother told me a little bit about a story don't let yourself become a victim however hard your life is meant to be a lot harder but for people that you ought to show gratitude toward it. if you keep the spirit of gratitude i think you will do just fine. >> thank you for sharing that. >> this is a townhouse let's get to some questions. the first question is from adam.

how are you senator vance kuester. >> good how you doing? >> good, sorry. the last 14 days we, myself, my fiancé in these awesome behind us have been delivering supplies all over western north carolina. >> god bless you guys a. [cheering] [cheering] god bless you all. we love you. we are proud of you and are so grateful to you. [cheering] we've seen everything seem

absolute decimation loosing miracles left and right we have probably have had 500 different volunteers. when america supposed to be. [applause] your two big fears we have. the biggest fear is that when all this is over and becomes a footnote. we don't offer anybody that's left behind after a disaster. in the back trying to rebuild everything they've lost. we will not have an opportunity to have a real conversations about the after action of what took place in order for us to understand how we can use the combination of both private sector and public sector funding and efforts to have effective and efficient actions on the

ground. to make it more mobile and more agile. more importantly to reinject capitol back into the local economy. so this is my question for the first thing i would like to ask is this. will you and president trump promised to not forget western north carolina if you and the election? >> will never forget western north carolina. [applause] i do not doubt that you won't. i do not doubt that. the second question is more important. the second question is when can we sit down and have a legitimate conversation by overhauling the process of disaster relief in the united states? >> amen. >> understanding if i may, bureaucratic process of redtape that we have to cut through in order to get the funding directly to the people who need it most. it just simply takes too long.

it's not the fault of any individual agency or federal government. [cheering] >> just a second period are we okay? [inaudible] kamala harris built the platform behind us. that's what happened. [laughter] are a good man? >> you can have my chair if you want. [laughter] go ahead, sir. >> the question is, can we have a conversation about revamping a national disaster strategy so that we can utilize retired veterans and special operation personnel who have been leading the charge hands down in western north carolina pretty effectively provide food supply at medical aid and assistance to thousands of lives and revamping

a national strategy in the united states to make it more effective. >> that is a big question. and let me just say, i want to reiterate donald trump and i know the appalachian region of our country, western north carolina, east, east kentucky, southwest virginia, has been left behind and forgotten. we are not one to do it there were not going to do in response to this disaster we are never going to let the people of that region or country -- make the region really built our country were never going to let them be left behind or forgotten for a promise that to you. let me just say about the disaster response. first of all i want to thank you all for everything that you did. the private relief agencies. the charities, the good samaritans who did their jobs. god bless you guys we should all be proud of them. be a lot worse without them.

i think it now hopefully we are moving to the stage we are trying to rebuild as opposed to just recover from still recovering a little bit that's an unfortunate tragedy here. once we get past that, health of the next few days and gotten everybody saved everybody can save us time to focus on the disastrous federal response to this incredible crisis. what i have learned is look, you have the hurricane. western north carolina is underwater. what should have happened as the president and vice president should ascend the second airborne to north condit that day. and instead the president's speech of vice president at a fundraiser in san francisco. what you need in times like this is you just need leadership. sir, you put it so well.

one agency there's a lot of people working on the federal effort that are doing a good job are the best they can breed the print theproblem is all the burc incompetence. i was talking with elon musk about this a few days ago for elon by the way, was a centerleft democrat for your seo notes got dark maga hat. doctor guy his fist off about government incompetence. you've got the faa per you've got fema pretty got these relief agencies. you've got people who have been trained by the government of a bureaucracy at their job is not to cut the bs to help people is to basically act like the dmv. and unfortunately what that means in this case is you got a lot of people who could've been helped. a lot of lives that could've been saved that weren't true. i'm sure were going to learn a lot about how corrupt and incompetent our government is.

i am sorry, think about this. in 2010 the terrible earthquake and port-au-prince, haiti for the 82nd airborne was there two days later. two days later. eighty-second airborne is an hour away from western north carolina it took six days to get them there. that does not happen without failure of leadership. got to the bottom exactly with the failure of leadership look like. the final thing i will say, sir, is the only way to fix this is by accountability. eschewing the private sector. through the public sector. if you do not have accountability and others if you don't fire the people screwed up it will never get better. what is fundamentally. [cheering] [applause] what's fundamentally different of the leadership style of kamala harris and donald trump,

i went donald trump got famous singer fired but he believes in count building our government. kamala harris just doesn't. this attitude to go long to get along pretty screwed up i may be a got people killed but were not one fire you brew that is not going to do good for people the 21st century. i want to say one final thing. resources the guys are pilots. [applause] i just want to say i want to be the kind of vice president where you feel like i have your back and that i have not left you behind to put a note donald trump with to be the kind of president that will always have your back and never leave you behind. we are so proud of him. we're so grateful for it we are going to fight for you when we are in the white house. god bless you guys, thank you. thank you for the question.

>> that is what it is to be an american. that's what is to be american. our next question comes and jean. >> first, thank you so much for being here. we really appreciate it. thank you for being that public official who knows how to answer question. [applause] quicksand from north carolina. my question regards illegal immigration. last week we learned 13000 murderers came across our border illegally. what is the plan to deport these awful criminals? >> a plan to put it simply as we got to send them home. we got to send them home asap.

they have no right to be in the country. it's funny because the media, which for three and a half years how refuse to even cover the terrible problems of kamala harris' open border. will now say things how are you going to deport people? it's way too hard to deport people. it's not hard to deport people get deaf competent administration is willing to some people back to where they belong unless we get this right in the next administration, we are throwing open the floodgates to illegal immigration of the nt 30 years. think of the message you are sending. 13000 murderers. tens of thousands of violent criminals in addition to the 13000 murderers. millions upon millions of people who come here.

some of them are good people but that does not mean that the legal right to be in the nine states of america. we've got to separate those things. if the message the country sends after 25 million illegal aliens come to this country is you get to stay here. you get to collect housing benefits. to get to collect welfare benefits or folks in western north carolina are struggling to survive. we will never have a board of this country again. got to like donald trump would send a message number illegal immigration. no more open borders. >> the topic of illegal immigration, it's estimate cost this country wonder $50 billion a year. so i would like to hear where is that affecting the american people? when that is solved when can expect to improve? >> it is affecting people in so

many different ways. think what a $50 million maybe undercounting it. a lot of, a lot of what that money is illegal aliens who collect welfare benefits in some form or another. section eight housing. take one example. i have seen this in communities i represent the state of ohio what you will have multiple families living in the same house. each of them get section eight. they are able to pay way more than an american citizen who is just working at their job 40, 45, 50 hours a week. americans are getting evicted from their homes to make way for illegal aliens were only there because of the generosity of american taxpayers. that's one of the biggest way it affects his head drives up the cost of housing leads to a lot of people being able to for their home. it's in a big way it matters. i did with the exact number north carolina is but michigan, 85000 children of illegal aliens are in the michigan public schools.

i've michigan enniskillen is probably about the same. what you think that does all this they're dealing with classrooms full of people that don't even speak the language. and again it's nothing against those kids but saying something against kamala harris let those come in and deprive americans of a good education bridge or something else that matters that i know very personally. my mom struggled with addiction for a very long, very long time. my mom got clean and sober about 10 years ago. [applause] i thank you all for that. i know, please, there is hope on the other side of addiction but there's hope for recovery for all that struggling with the orpheum as it do for this only hope of a get people second chance. one thing i really worry about when you talk about 100,000

americans dying of functional and the functional is brought in by the mexican drug cartels that's 100,000 kids that never get a second chance with her mom. that's 100,000 moms and dads that never get a second chance to come clean. this is destroying our country. i happen to believe it got the best of people in the world. if got the best country in the world but we cannot allow kamala harris broken leadership to continue to screw this up for that is going to change it. we got great people, let's fix the broken leadership and get kamala harris out of there. [applause] >> we all look forward to that. >> 26 days. >> 26 days the countdown is on. >> it's going to happen too. >> yet voting, vote early. the next question comes from kayleigh.

>> i'm a small business owner and a first-time voter and i'm a hair dresser. >> god bless you. [laughter] [applause] >> i was wondering how you are going to help -- >> oh, i lost my place. one day i want to start a family and own my own home, but with rising costs, i do not know if that will be able to happen. you have come from humble beginnings, so what is your plan for creating more opportunities for people like me? >> yes, ma'am, of course. well, thank you for your question, and it's the an important one. [applause] i will say i think we've got a question here, a question over here and a question over here. i think i need a swivel chair --

>> they need to make us a lazy susan, spin around. >> well, i think, to answer your question, let's start by understanding where, because it's really to to important to the understand the root causes of some of these problems. why are hinges so expensive under -- things so expense if we've, and there are a whole host of things i could point to, but most important is energy, okay? so think about it like this, groceries are 25% higher than they were three and a half years ago because the truck drivers are paying way more for diesel fuel, and it's the truck drivers who are getting the groceries to the grocery store: our farmers are paying more for deals, and finally, you think about building a house, well, if all the people are paying more for gas and energy, that's going to the raise the the price of everything. so president trump has this phrase which i think is very simple, but it's also a yen winly specific policy. the most important thing we've got to do to lower prices and

make life more affordable is drill, baby, drill. we've got to unleash american energy. [cheers and applause] it really is so important. [applause] and it also, it also -- by the way, i admire you so much for doing what you do and having the courage to go out and do it on your own. it's not easy. but you want to have a government that makes your life a little bit easier for you to get ahead instead of harder and harder to get ahead. think about this, you're a small business woman, you're building something that is going to to create -- that is creating prosperity in the just for you, but for your community. of course, you provide a good service. i need a good haircut right now, so i'll call you. [laughter] but think about this, we have got two really different economic proposals from kamala harris and donald trump. kamala harris' entire economic plan if boils down the we're going to raise taxes on american

workers, and we're going to reward companies that ship jobs overseas. if donald trump's vision is like the pact opposite. we're going to cut taxes for american workers, penalize folks who are shipping american jobs overseas. we want to reward people like you who are creating prosperity right here mt. united states of america. [applause] if -- in the united states of america. but, you know, the one last thing i'd say, and i ask you -- i'm sure you've got, you know, a lot of friends. you're clearly, like you say, a first-time voter, and i know a lot of first-time voters are figuring this stuff out. i'm older than you, but i'm pretty young by the standards of national politics, i'm only 40. and one of the things i really worry about the young generation in this country, their growing up in a nation where they're going to become -- in the country that their parents and grandparents built. i want you to own a piece of the future and in the just be a

permanent debtor the people and institutions -- to people and institutions that don't care about you and don't like you. i want you to own a slice of this country, and that's how we're going to create prosperity. thank you. [applause] >> the globalist view of own nothing >> i tried cricket one time. >> i've also tried cricket. it is more disgusting than you could possibly man. don't eat bugs, we'll eat red

meat. >> yeah! [applause] >> no crickets. >> i've somehow if become a steak and potatoes girls. -- girl. i'm also a first-time voter. i've never voted before, but this time around i have to vote. [applause] >> good for you. >> yeah t that important. >> i just want to be clear, you're voting for us, right? you're voting for the good guys? [laughter] >> [inaudible] >> there we go. >> if i could vote guys, i would. >> we don't do that. we're republicanning -- republicans. we only vote -- we vote healey. >> the way you vote twice is to bring a friend. >> that's right. >> bring a friend. >> that's a good point. vote twice the the legal way, bring yourself and a friend to the polls. very good. >> speaking of energy, we became energy independent for the first time under donald trump's administration. >> right.

>> with the, with a.i. requiring so much power to run it and with wanting to become energy independent again, how long do you think it's going to the take to be there again, and what are the -- what is the path away to that? if -- pathway to that? >> that's a very good question because, to your point, a.i. requires so much power that unless we have effectively unlimited power, we're not going to be able to power the a.i. revolution. i mean, this is like crazy, you know, space age stuff. like stinted of going to the a doctor to -- instead of going to a doctor the get your skin checked if you've to got skin cancer, for example, you can take a photo, and it'll tell you whether you have cancer. that's what the a.i. revolution's going to mean. that's going to the mean cheaper medical costs but only, to your point, if we get those energy costs reasonable, you is ask how long is it going to take to get energy independent, if if donald trump is president, it'll happen

almost immediately. [applause] i mean, two years should get us back to where we were because, i mean, look, in pennsylvania, in north carolina, i mean, in florida, we've got energy resources that the world would literally kill for. in some cases, some of these countries have is have actually started wars over the resources we have. kamala's entire policy so to buy oil and gas from tin pot dictators all over the world. let's buy it from american citizens right here at home and create a lot of good american jobs in the process. [applause] but, look, if kamala harris wins, god forbid -- i'm going to have nightmares now just for saying that, but i think it would take us ten years after her administration assuming she only got four years, it would take us ten years to get us out of the hole she would dig us into. that's how bad these guys are on energy. they've got it in their mind that they care about the environment, but they don't

actually care about the environment. we believe in clean air and clean water in the republican party. we created a lot of the environmental protections that exist. bobby kennedy cares about the environment. trust me, he does. but if you want clean air, you don't ship all of our manufacturing and energy to to china which is the dirtiest economy per unit of economic output in the world. you build more and make more in the united states of america. that's what president trump will do. [applause] >> our next question comes from patricia. [laughter] >> good evening. >> now i really need that swivel chair. [laughter] >> i've got your back. >> thank you. [laughter] [applause] >> i'm pat, and i'm from timber lake are, north carolina, and

i'm a retired health care worker. and my question tonight is that, it's about social security. >> yes, ma'am. >> and i've seen ads and posts where donald trump is going the take away our social security or cut it or decrease it, but then i also see ads and posts that donald the. >> yes, ma'am. first of all, i don't have to tell you this, ma'am, you know this, i think a lot of us know this, don't believe everything you see on tv because a lot of those things are paid for by

democrat money. it's december honest. here's what donald trump's going to do: he's going to protect social security and cut taxes on social security income because our seniors, you've paid into it for your whole lives, you ought to be able to enjoy the benefit of it on the other end. it's that simple. [applause] but here's something that a really matters here because you know what will bankrupt social security in this country? giving it to illegal aliens. [applause] and that is exactly -- this is what i think is so sick about what kamala harris is going out there doing. he is accuse us of doing the very same thing that she herself is promising to do. she wants to bankrupt this program not by giving it to the people who paid into it, but by giving it to people who don't even have the legal right to be in this country the begin with. and if you want our seniors to enjoy their social security, donald j. trump is the only, the only candidate in this race that's going the protect it. [cheers and applause]

>> so i think it's safe to the say that if you were in the administration for the last few years, you'd do some things different. >> i think so. i think so. [laughter] >> i liked it when kamala speaks, we gain 100,000 votes, is that the number? [laughter] >> you know, some of her interviews are so bad, maybe it's a couple hundred thousand votes. but, you know, you're -- there's an interview that she gave a couple of days ago with "the view." >> in the exactly a hard-hitting one. >> i guess it's tough if you can't even hit a tee ball which i think is camilla a haste in some of these bear if views. but, you know, he was -- kamala harris. the whole argument of her campaign is that she is different from joe biden. you would actually, in fact, be forgiven for believing that she's not his sitting vice president even though, of course, she is. because she's running so far away from it. and she cast the deciding vote on a lot of the worst policy.

she has bragged about being the the last person in the room when these decisions were made. so "the view" asked kamala harris a total softball, would you have done anything differently from joe biden over the last four years, and kamala harris says nothing comes to mind. [laughter] it blew up the whole, the whole lie at the heart of her campaign in one interview answer. and i will say though, i will say when she says nothing comes to the mind, that's probably true about whatever topic the answer -- [applause] if is about. [cheers and applause] so i'm hardly the most obvious person to defend kamala harris, but maybe she was just being honest about her state of mind. >> shows she's a placeholder. >> exactly. >> didn't have any thoughts. we know that it would be different with you guys, and we know that you answer questions, and we love that. we love having someone in charge

of our questions that answers questions and -- of our country that answers questions and is going to get things done. >> well, i appreciate that. [cheers and applause] i, so i think this answering questions thing is actually kind of important because, look, i'm 40 years old. it's -- other than, other than omarlying this beautiful lady -- marrying this beautiful lady up here and raising our kids together, the greatest honor of my life is having been --ing being your vice presidential nominee. it's an incredible honor. but think about this, i'm asking you all to make me your next vice president. that is an awesome thing, an incredible responsibility. i'm asking for it. you ought to go out and earn it and if speak to the american people. kamala harris runs from the american people, and i think that shows a real defect of the kind of leadership skills you need to be the president of the united states in the first place. and i, i will tell you this story, so i guess this was a couple weeks ago. it was a sunday, and i was

sitting at home with our 7-year-old in cincinnati, and i get a call, and it's the president. and i said, hey, sir, what's going on, how you doing? he said, well, they tried to do it again. they tried to do what again? it was a sunday where a second assassination attempt happened on president trump's life. he had a just gotten from the golf course. like any friend, i go, are you okay? if physically you're okay because you're with calling me, but mentally, that's a traumatic thing. and if he goes, yeah, i'm somete that isn't the kind of person you want in emergency, crisis situations mt. oval office -- in the oval office, you want the

guy who isn't fazed by an assassination attempt, you don't want the woman who runs from a friendly american media. [cheers and applause] there's something -- [applause] you know, there's something about the way that kamala harris has run this campaign that i think is general genuinely -- genuinely, to all americans, is insulting. think about it, she's asking you to give her control over millions of american troops, potential -- i mean, over the entire nuclear arsenal of the united states with. she is asking for literally the authority to command life and death all over the world, and she won't even go out and talk to the american people in a non-friend februaryly setting. we all should be -- non-friendly setting. i think it's a disgraceful campaign, and i hope that we don't reward her, and i don't think that we will. [applause]

>> and just to wrap it up since i know you'll answer any question -- [laughter] >> oh, no. >> i think you could share maybe what you did with your day off that you had a couple days ago -- [laughter] and what your special secret skill is to the american people. >> okay. all right -- >> and be specific. >> okay. i will -- [laughter] well, i was raised in a middle class family -- [laughter] [applause] that's the kamala harris answer to any question. so -- >> forgot to laugh. you forgot to laugh. >> i forgot the awkward cackle afterwards. [laughter] the -- okay. so i had, i had half a day off on the campaign trail the other day, and, you know, because we're kind of in crunch time, so you don't really get much time off. you'd probably be shocked to know this, that i'm a big baker. i really -- you know, i can -- yeah. are there some bakers out there?

[applause] >> so my 4-year-old and i, he's my sou us chef when we're baking. my wife and i were on the road for a couple days. the kids are at home with my aunt and uncle, and then we get back tonight to. so i made them breakfast treats for three days in a row. so for the first day they had homemade if cinnamon rolls, the second day they had dulce deeleven chi rolls, and the third day they had chocolate chip scones. so we did all that together and, you know, i'm not perfect, but i do have the talent of baking, so that's one thing i've got going for me. [applause] >> fantastic. well, we also spoke about the pant that you don't get to drivt to drive anymore, so if you got to drive yourself away from here tonight, what kind of car would you want to drive? [laughter] >> that is a tough question. >> any car. >> well, you know, this just shows the phase of life i am, i

would happily take my mini if van right now and drive it, because i don't have any ability to drive anything else. god bless you guys. thank you so much. [applause] if. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> c-span is your unfiltered view of government. we're funded by these television companies and more, including comcast. >> are you building a community center? >> comcast is partnering with 1000 community centers to create wi-fi enabled lift zones, so students from low income families can get the toolshey need to be ready for anything. >> comcast supports c-span as a public service, along with these other television providers,

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