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giving you a front row seat to democracy. ♪ >> this week on 2024 campaign trail, we are joined by political reporters jasmine wright and paul steinhauser to talk about the latest developments in the presidential and senate house campaigns of the last week. >> we are joined by desmond right with notice. joining us via zoom is paul steinhauser. i want to start with your latest piece on the politics of disaster response. the fox news headline back to back hurricanes rock the harris-trump presidential campaigns. explain how these disasters are playing out on the campaign trail? >> good morning from pittsburgh and it is no surprise hurricanes

have been impacting political presidential campaigns for a long time. think back to 1992 and president herbert walker bush, his response, fema's response to hurricane andrew which slammed into florida did him no favors. we have seen presidents as well, think 2012, superstorm sandy smacked into the eastern seaboard. arguably helped president obama win reelection. we have back to back hurricanes. helene which tore through the southeast doing some immense damage in states like georgia and north carolina. two crucial battleground states. and now milton which yesterday we saw go through florida and there is still a huge mess down there. a couple million still without power and the death toll as well. obviously former president trump, his campaign, you heard the clip you just played from senator vance a few minutes ago.

very critical of what president biden and vice president harris, it is the same administration, they see this as a political opportunity to criticize the competence of kamala harris. >> what are the campaign saying about efforts to ensure voting access in hurricane impacted areas? modify early voting days and changing polling locations if needed. >> both republicans and democrats at the local level are open to try to make sure they are retaining access to people's right to vote in these hard-hitting areas. in 2020 republicans were not for modifications to early voting days when it came to issues like disasters and now they are asking for it in states like north carolina and georgia that were hard hit and that are going to be consequential to president trump's base. i think it is getting to paul's point. the former president has used these disasters to criticize

vice president harris but vice president harris is using disasters to criticize former president trump because him spreading that this information saying fema was giving disaster relief to migrants which has been debunked several times falls into her campaign's playbook which allows them to say look, there are two choices in temperament. there is president trump and vice president harris. allowing her to call him on serious and her to -- her to say he is unsympathetic. we have seen her try to show the most sympathy to the american people. it is also working on the vice president's. >> you mentioned you are in pittsburgh. that is where barack obama was appearing with kamala harris with the campaign should this is barack obama about a minute and a half from yesterday. >> when donald trump lies or cheats or shows utter disregard for our constitution, when he

calls pows losers or fellow citizens vermin, people make excuses for it. they think it is ok. they think at least he is owning the libs. he is sticking it to them. it is ok as long as our side wins. and by the way, i'm sorry, gentlemen. i have noticed this especially with some men. who seem to think trump's behavior of bullying and putting people down is a sign of strength. i am here to tell you that is not what real strength is. it never has been. [applause] real strength is about working

hard and carrying a heavy load without complaining. real strength is about taking responsibility for your actions and telling the truth even when it is inconvenient. real strength is about helping people who need it and standing up for those who cannot always stand up for themselves. that is what we should want for our daughters and for our sons and that is what i want to see in a president of the united states of america. [applause] >> former barack obama in pittsburgh. paul steinhauser, what was your assessment of barack obama back on the campaign trail and how the campaign plans to deploy him in the final weeks? >> this was the first event for the former president who remains if you look at polling, he remains extremely popular with democrats. ratings are above water with

independents as well. this is all about getting out the vote. the first of a number of stops -- down under four weeks so the time is clicking. he also was helping senator bob casey of pennsylvania who is in tough reelection battle. while the races that could determine whether the republicans win back the senate should but i thought was important about that clip, of course he was criticizing former president trump. he did that throughout his speech. he was creative and vicious in some ways in dissecting trump. the idea of the gender gap and we are seeing a tremendous gender gap in this election should you sell that message tailored to men. to not be susceptible to donald trump's portrayal of strength. earlier at a stop at campaign headquarters stop before he did the rally, he tailored that message specifically to blackmail voters because we have seen polling indicate donald

trump is doing well with blackmail voters and making some serious gains. this is some embarrassed campaign is concerned about and one of the reasons for former president obama to zero in on that message last night. >> you mentioned the -- the gender gap. this is an nbc poll among men. kamala harris with 40% of the mill vote, 52% donald trump among women -- among dental -- tasman right on that pitch by barack obama. >> battle of the genders for sure. i think it is funny because there is no better way to tell the democrats are in the closer than when they bring on former president obama. he is the person democrats to bring in -- democrats bring in to close the argument. also to rally democratic voters to get them to the polls early. that is why they are deploying the former president right now not just because democrats love

early voting. they have always had the advantage of it for the last few modern cycles but because of these hurricanes and the depth of reporting that we are going to see in states like with caroline and states like georgia crucial to the former president but also vice president harris when she is trying to make them purple states. there is not going to be quality polling because people have the -- people barely have the ability to charge their phones. getting folks out early is going to give the campaign that data they need to know where they should surge the last minute resources. this is why former president obama is so effective because he makes the case but also encourages people to mail those ballots in early but also go to the polls early. we know pennsylvania is a state that provides democrats a lot of trouble when it comes to voting because people mail in ballots what they don't get counted on to the last day. this is about trying to figure

out where those numbers look soft. the former president gets the case of democrats and he gets them out more than most people. >> go ahead, paul steinhauser. >> there is another former president who will be doing the same thing. that is former president bill clinton who like former president obama spoke at the democratic convention in chicago in august. he will be heading i think over the weekend to georgia and on to north carolina next week where he will be doing a bus tour. that is the whole idea as well get out the vote. this is something where democrats have been emphasizing this for a couple cycles now. republicans have tried to catch up on this. the republican national committee for a couple years has been having this bank your vote campaign to emphasize it is ok to vote early. the problem is their person at the top of the ticket has gone

back and forth on this. we remember his comments from the 2020 election. he is stepping on the messenger also -- often when it comes to republican efforts to get out the early vote. >> democrats, 202-7488 rosen, republicans, 20274 eight 8001, independents, 20274 8002. paul steinhauser is in ms. britt. you were recently in and of the in arizona. >> is arizona a purple state? not to the people on the ground. they feel it is traditionally republican. i was there for a couple days. spent some real-time around people throughout the political spectrum from canvassers to organizers to campaign ads, move from republicans and democrats and independents and the vibe i got was people are feeling hopeful because of the enthusiasm and energy the vice

president has brought to the campaign since she replaced bite and the top of the ticket. they are not optimistic and that is because they are facing a serious numbers problem they did not happen -- they did not have in 2020. over 100,000 registered democrats have left the state since 2020 so democrats have deficits not just with republicans but it has expanded. to have a deficit with republicans of over 200,000 registered voters but they also have a deficit with independents. . a flip from 2020 when they had more independents in that state. when we see the harris campaign reaching out to the mormon community, reaching out to publicans, she has amassed a large amount of high-profile republican endorsers in that state. it is not just because of virtue. it is because of necessity. they need those republicans who were molded in the image of john mccain who are more men, who are independent and who are exhausted or just don't like extremism, don't like an action done nihilism, don't look donald

trump to come on the vice president side. they are having trouble because it is such a tall order. this is a traditionally republican state. a lot of their identity is based in being a republican and there is one thing to say we won't vote for donald trump but a lot are finding it is another thing to say we want to vote for the vice president people across the state are spread out trying to confront this problem in a lot of ways. candidates reaching out to independents, both with independents of color, latina women, reaching out to republicans trying to amass this coalition that did not even exist in 2020. >> what is the explanation for that democratic exit is -- democratic exodus? >> people don't know. so many people are pouring into arizona. one person told me to hundred people pour into maricopa county itself a day. a lot of them are british during independent because there is not a penalty of it. you can request a republican or democratic primary ballot.

there are a lot more independents in the state since 2020. diversifying their interest. they are coming from states like california which obviously those are two, arizona and california are two politically distinct states. it is a melting pot of folks. we see the harris campaign doctors focusing on republicans or independents, they are focusing on the tribal committee, latina working-class women. they're trying to eat out the vote against latino men that is a place where they having a lot of trouble. as we saw in the times poll, harris is down double digits in comparison to trump with latino men in that state. they are trying to amass a different kind of coalition that did not exist in 2020 because of the changes in the demographics. >> political reporter there. paul steinhauser joining us from

pittsburgh. this is rhonda joining us from new jersey. line for democrats. good morning. >> good morning. is the topic politics or disaster? >> they can be what you want to talk about. it is a political tale -- a political roundtable. we have been talking the politics of disaster. >> good morning, everyone. i wanted to say i'm praying for all the people in florida, north carolina and south carolina that have been affected by these hurricanes. i went through sandy and your homeowners insurance will pay for you to live somewhere else for two years while your home is being rebuilt. that is how it is in new jersey. we live in the best state in the country. as far as politics goes, i'm glad you have a fox person on there. could you tell them to please start telling the truth to their supporters? ? it is really sad they would

politicize a natural disaster and tell people if you take fema assistance, they are going to take your property. that is a lie. >> rhonda in new jersey. paul steinhauser on the fact that fema had to publish a fact check for misinformation out there. how unusual is that? >> pretty unusual. we were talking about this at the beginning of the segment. we have seen president biden and vice president harris numerous times this week chiding former president trump for making things more difficult for fema and for government responders trying to help those hurt by these hurricanes. it is a major issue not only for politics but for the rescuers and for fema as they try to help people get back on their feet after these back to back dangerous storms.

>> let me go to lee in grant gorge, new york, republican. >> i was concerned about yesterday's obama rally for kamala harris. both he and hillary are campaigning for her. last month, she called trump a threat to democracy and the world, which i find ludicrous considering during obama's presidency, hillary as secretary of state on national tv gave the reset button leading americans to believe russia is our new best friend. they gave them permission to mine uranium in three u.s. states. obama was overheard telling met you have to tell code and he had more flexibility during his second term when russia invaded ukraine and took over crimea.

obama said they were mostly russians there anyway and did nothing to help the ukraine russia -- using campaign funds to establish the -- russian collaboration -- >> got your point. on russia, ukraine, barack obama, hillary clinton. >> i think the democrats will see at a different way but largely the view of u.s. election ships with russia in 2014 is very different from the relationship with russia now because of their invasion of ukraine, because of how far they are going and how far the democrats, vice president harris, president biden believe they would continue to go with former president trump in office. this has been a rallying call of the vice president shins she replaced -- president since she replaced biden.

basically saying trump had said he likes dictators, he would become a dictator on day one and that is something the vice president has said is a liability for him and making him unable to be president invalidates that option for him because of the way he would cozy up to russia. now trump has denied these things. trump has said democrats are in some ways responsible for the threats on his life. something both parties feel the volume should be turned down. we are in different place in 2014 when it comes to the u.s. relationship with russia or ukraine. >> how much do you think we are going to be talking foreign policy on the campaign trail in these last 25 days? >> there could be an incident overseas. we have a lot of hotspots right now. we saw what iran just did in reaction to israel.

as of now, know it will not be a top issue but of course what happens on the ground in the middle east or in ukraine could insulate change -- could instigate change. when it comes to, harris or donald trump, there is not much difference on -- this is night and day when it comes to their philosophies on what to do with russia and ukraine. it is an issue that is a divider between those two. >> let me talk about another issue that gets a lot of attention on the campaign trail and what this latest report on inflation means. the headline from the washington post. the consumer price index fell to 2.4% in september from a year earlier. the annual rate has not been this low since february 2021. >> this is something that is a

win for democrats because so much about this election has been wrapped around the idea of inflation specifically for arizona. very few states in the country have seen higher inflation that has stayed in the state of arizona. the emigration but that has become what voters in that state are most concerned about. what is rep. brown: voters ideas about election and above voting. this is a win for democrats. this is something they have said they have been trying to do, that the reason why biden has done these various things and his federal reserve, two separate entities but have done all these things with the economy after covid to get to this point where we have lower inflation. when people go to the ballot and their gas is lower, their housing price has not gone down but things look better at the grocery store. the vice president talked a lot about price gouging, that is a

win for the vice president because so much of these conversations have been that the democrats have screwed up the economy since former president trump and people are not better in the last four years. >> 2.4% inflation is still positive inflation. the bulk of septembers increase driven by a rise in prices for housing and food. the increased .2% and .4% respectively on those issues and what is on voters minds. >> overall the economy is doing well. do americans feel that way? no in poll after poll shows that. it is so visceral when it comes to inflation. you see that when you go to the grocery store. you see that when you go to the gas station. that is why donald trump has had a large lead on the economy and the economy remains the top issue on the minds of american voters. the margin is not as large as it used to be but it is still an advantage for him.

it is one of the reasons why it is a margin of error race with less than four weeks to go. >> arlington, texas is next. bob, independent. welcome to the roundtable. >> i would like to know about kamala what she did before she got in to the vice president's role. she and willie brown turned san francisco into a super. nobody can deny that. i would like to know her qualifications. she has nothing to do with finances, economics or the military. these are important criteria. the only connection i can find with her and hollywood is the fact she was known as wonder woman. >> bob in arlington, texas. what does the harris campaign say about kamala harris's qualifications on the state and federal level as a senator when the these questions? >> they should try to take his

words and use wonder woman as a bumper sticker. a new name for her as they hit the final stretch. i think when i talked to a lot of her allies, continuously say she is one of the most qualified people they believe that has run for president because of her long history in politics. before she was vice president, she was a jr. senator of california. she was on the senate intel community. he asked about her military experience. that is a prestigious committee senators joined where they get classified information about the issues happening in the world. that is where she brandished her ability to know about foreign policy and it is something not all of the 100 senators have access to a because you have to be on that committee. before she was on the senate intel committee and in the senate she was attorney general for several years of california. california is a massive state. they have a massive budget. whether or not people feel like she did a good job, she was one

of the top executives of that role. that is why she says i have been an executive in all these places because she was in charge of running one of the largest criminal justice systems in the country. before she was attorney general for multiple years, she was district attorney where she was district attorney where she dealt with smaller issues in the state of california and san francisco area. she has had all these positions. has she moved up the ladder quickly? sure but she has had these positions where we think of politicians having in their route to the white house and in these roles she says it on the trail that she prosecuted transnational crime. that was her first touch is when it came to the issue of immigration. she sued these different banks when it came to the housing crisis. she does have these various

experiences they believe make her more than qualified for this position and a lot more positions than a lot of men you see run for office before. >> greg out of inverness, florida. line for democrats. >> i am calling today, you got a fox host up there. i don't know if he still works for them or not but i wish they would stop all the lies that they tell. i would like you to tell -- >> we will let you talk about your career in political reporting and give you a chance to respond, paul. >> i was with cnn for many years before joining fox but we are in a divisive time. viewers have strong opinions of the media and how the media covers the presidential election. that is understandable. >> what you think about the media coverage or the media that hosts a debate and concerns we

have seen about that and you think we will see another debate in the cycle? the harris campaign still calling for another debate in the final 25 days. >> cnn and fox news have been trying to get another debate with the former president has said alterable times including yesterday or the day before that will not be happening. his argument has been early voting is underway in one -- in almost half the country. he says it is too late to do another debate so it does not seem like we will see another face-to-face encounter between trump and harris. it looks like the vice president a debate from two weeks ago will be the last one. >> he made sure to add in the post you're referring to i won the last two debates. i excepted fox invitation to debate but she turned it down. jd vance easily won his debate and the post goes on from there.

gordon in kansas city, kansas, republican. good morning. >> when i called, i thought you were going to be fair and balanced here. i thought jazmine was going to be something like michaela montgomery aware candace wins. three against one right now against me. i would like either one of them to tell me what five eyes is and if they can't i can tell them because that is barack hussein obama spying on my president before he was president. >> gordon in kansas city, kansas. the same question we gave paul about the focus on the news organizations themselves and trust in people delivering the news. is it because we are so close to the end of a campaign cycle

that we have gotten so much focus on that or is it your experience this entire cycle? >> let me just say i am not candace owens. i am jasmine right but i'm glad you are listening. there are a lot of valid reasons in why people have a certain distrust for the media. that has been a trend that has been intensifying over the last decade. this erosion of trust. journalists worked really hard and we do try to bring you the most fair and balanced news that focuses on context and facts. just because the facts do not align with your belief, do not make them wrong. it just means you do not agree with them there has been a focus on tearing down the media or making it feel like they are only on one side. that is really a difficult place for journalists to be in but journalism has its own responsibilities. i think people are more focused on reporters, individual

reporters as we get closer to the election. my mentions are usually a garbage fire. journalists are working hard to give you guys the context and give you the understanding that is required to make a vote at the ballot. that is what our job is no matter the hate or the focus on who we are as people come and go because at the end of november we want you guys to be the most informed you have been because that is what it is going to take to make the choice you want to make for the election. >> i think our bures are my you're with paul's organization fox news and the concrete monitor. what is notus? >> notus is a new outlet and we focus on examining power in washington. who has it, who wants it and how we wield it. not only do we have this reporting outlay but we have this teaching institute where we

bring in young fellows, folks just graduating college, went to grad school, even older folks. we have one guy john who was in the military for a decade and now was to become a journalist and other local reporters who want to get into national journalism. we teach them journalism by trying to get to the last point which is create this new generation of reporters who are so focused on facts and nonpartisan reporting because we are a nonprofit newsroom that we combine it together to have this crappy group of reporters who are doing the best work in d.c. telling folks what they need to know before november. >> that mistake on the media for one more second. what you make of kamala harris's media blitz of week and the nontraditional media outlets she has gone to to try to reach voters? >> i think in some ways it is targeted toward female voters. we were talking about the gender gap earlier this segment. part of her strategy for victory

is to pump up the female vote. these interviews, some of them are designed to do just that. there has been plenty of criticism of kamala harris since she replaced president biden on the top of the democrats ticket in mid july that she had been avoiding the media. she is stepping it up now but the criticism continues that these are -- these outlets are friendly and she has not done any hard-hitting interviews. she did the 60 minutes interview but the trump campaign instantly attacked cbs more than her saying they edited out choice segments and they wanted to see the entire transcript. >> what is interesting about her media strategy is the election is going to come down to a couple questions. the first is who is kamala harris, what does she want to do and how she going to make your life better than donald trump? that media strategy is answering the first two because maybe they're not as hard-hitting, baby she is not going into depth about what she would do in

ukraine or other issues although she did in 60 minutes but maybe not so on call her daddy and other podcasts geared to young people but she is talking about herself and she is giving substantial answers to who she is and where she has come from and how she views the world. that is something most people did not have a real reference for before she did this media strategy. i think it has been successful in detailing who is kamala harris and how empathetic can she be and how can she connect with the voters. there are other people who want to hear more substance. that may or may not come but the question she had to answer, one of the questions your dancer is who is kamala harris. she has tried to in these friendlier podcasts, the friendly media appearances like the colbert show, call her daddy, all in podcast tried to answer that question about who she is and what drives her. >> everybody knows donald trump.

opinions are very strong on him. it is clear how people feel. kamala harris is an open book when she took over at the top of the ticket three months ago. this is been a battle between the trump campaign and harris campaign to define kamala harris. it has been a major part of this presidential election down the stretch. >> what do you make of donald trump's strategy? we talked about kamala harris especially upcoming events in coachella california and madison square garden in new york. >> is new york in play? is california in play? ? we have not had a republican win in new york since ronald reagan in his 1984 reelection lens like. wise donald trump with time so precious at this point in the campaign, it is extremely precious so why is donald trump going to these blue states is a great question. he was also, the stop in madison square garden, october 20

seventh will be his second in new york in a month. he was at nassau coliseum a few weeks ago. his campaign says -- they are realistic. it is not like they are going to be winning electoral votes in california or you knew -- or new york. this is more of a media capital -- media strategy. go to hold a large rally in madison square garden and is going to help you in new york maybe. but this is more about getting the message out across the country in those battleground states. >> i think what is interesting about his strategy is the reliance on these podcasts and live streamers that are focused on younger men. maybe with some education, maybe no education. trying to get out the quote unquote burrows to the ballot -- quote unquote bro to the ballot boxs. these are people who don't vote

all the time. he is reaching out to them playing within the gender gap making sure young men feel seen by him and enough that they are provided the permission to do what their mothers are doing which is elect donald trump by going to the ballot box in way they had not gone in past cycles. >> you talk to the trump campaign and they will mention going after low propensity voters is a crucial part of their formula for victory. >> logan paul. >> logan paul is now a boxer. he used to be a youtuber. he has a massive following. donald trump sat with him. donald trump sat with other folks who in a lot of ways repel a woman voter. but it is such a hyper focused niche group of male voters that

don't engage with the democratic party so they are up for grabs in this into who the trump campaign is courting and trying to motivate them enough to mail in their ballots, register to vote and go to the ballot. that is a risky thing trying to get people who don't do sara lee vote all the time to the ballot but that is how the former president is trying to drum up his numbers potentially in states in which democrats would -- a republican. >> mike in philly. independent. thanks for waiting. >> thanks for taking my call. i am glad your guy -- you guys are talking about terms media campaign because that is part of what i wanted to talk about. i don't think the former president's upcoming dates in coachella or madison square garden have anything to do with whether or not he intends to win this race. i think he intends to use those

platforms to speak directly to republicans who feel disenfranchised because they live in states that traditionally lean blue for lack of a better word. parallel to what we are going to see in medicine square valley is the rally forward spoke at in the 30's for the 30's. get them riled up and engage in the same behavior we saw him engage in last time. the intent is not about whether he wins. it is about trying to make it about he has an excuse when he does and it is something we should all be worried about. >> any thoughts on that? >> it is clear in blue states and i was at the event at nassau coliseum there are plenty of trump supporters in the states even though they are vastly outnumbered by democratic voters. maga is alive and well in parts

of california come in parts of new york, in parts of pennsylvania which is a deep purple state. as for the excuses for charging voter fraud if he loses, it is clear if donald trump loses this election he is probably not going to be accepting defeat. i think that is pretty clear. >> to add in georgia, a republican. >> my comments about the presidential election, i am not a gambler but i want my words to go out to everybody, to pass this on to anybody you know who is a gambler. anybody that plays the powerball lotto or the mega millions lotto, carmella is set to

collect more in taxes than the person who actually wins the top prize and that amount of money is very hard to win. you have to have half a billion tickets to win that thing. >> get me to your question. >> wait a minute. all right. what my question is, do you think it is fair as hard as it is to win the lottery that the government should get more in taxes than the person who actually wins the lottery? > that is ed's question on texas. i don't know if you want to tag -- to talk tax policy? >> i love playing the lottery and i love going gambling at a casino so i am with you there. i think they both have very different views on tax policy notwithstanding whether the state gets more money with the lottery system.

the vice president has tried to tried to share -- has tried to show american voters particularly the middle class that she wants to create a tax incentive like for housing, like for starting a new small business. that she wants to tax peaked -- to tax people who are over 400,000 dollars, she talked a little bit about the tax gains trying to separate from president biden on that. she wants to fashion her campaign as one that is in support of the middle class. she has been trying to tell the american people in her argument this is somebody who does not care about you, that does not care about the middle class. donald trump has been talking a lot about tax cuts. something that is going to expire that he put in place in 2017. he wants to create more tax cuts for americans.

he brought up one a couple days ago. they have vastly different views about how they want tax policy to shape their economic message to americans particularly on the issue talked about so clearly that is so important to americans about the number one issue, the economy. >> donald trump yesterday talking tax policy. >> i am also announcing as part of our tax cuts we will make interest on car loans fully deductible. [applause] so, a -- a lot of you people are in the car industry. what do you do? i am in the car industry. a lot of them. a very knowledgeable person. he said -- i don't want to embarrass him but he said where did you come up with that idea?

that is the coolest thing. it is like the paperclip. somebody comes up with the paperclip and everybody says why the hell didn't i think of that? somebody came up with the paperclip and made a lot of money. other people said -- he said i have been in the car industry all my life. i have never thought about that. going to make it fully deductible, the interest payments. that is going to revolutionize your industry. this will stimulate domestic auto production and a ownership more affordable for millions of working american families. this is a phenomenal thing if i do say so myself. [applause] >> donald trump yesterday in detroit. paul steinhauser on that proposal and how you think it is going to play out in the final 25 days. >> it is pretty clear what he was aiming for in michigan which is a state where the polls

indicate a margin of error race. the political message crystal clear. i was with trump two days ago in scranton, pennsylvania. big signs, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime. donald trump has been putting a lot of these proposals since the summer. it is a populist message. a lot of working-class voters will like that message. the flipside of this is the harris campaign pushes back especially when it comes to the proposals from former president trump on tariffs and they say that would be a tax on voters. there would be an instant sales tax that would increase your prices for any product that comes overseas. what is clear from both of these candidates is neither of them are talking about fiscal responsibility and budget deficits. that is something of the past.

it is truly remarkable how the republican party has changed. the republican party which used to be a fiscal hawk party now under donald trump as anything but. >> i think one thing the harris campaign continues to say about the former president is asking how he is going to pay for these different tax cuts and whether or not the brunt of the tax cuts are going to fall on the middle class. trying to hit the message donald trump does not care about the middle class. that is what the vice president's campaign says. the four presence campaign says the vice president's policies don't make sense. that they would not create real change for americans and they would not get passed by in congress that is elected come november. they are very dueling messages for the vice president trying to focus on the middle class. i -- a more populist message but

you are not hearing in depth how folks want to pay for these. in her 60 minutes interview push on how the vice president would pay for the tax credit for new businesses, would pay for the tax credits for new homes etc., she said behind the scenes i talked to congress and they are in favor of these policies secretly but there is not evidence to it. there is a lack of fiscal responsibility on both sides but certainly i think for the former president, he says these tax policy ideas but never shows his maps high the scenes. >> ted is in ocean view, hawaii. good morning. >> good evening. it is still evening here. your morning. it is 3:00 in the morning here. >> what is your question for 3:00 a.m.? >> i have been a farmer all my life. i grew up in washington state.

i have more -- i have formed here macadamia nuts. you tend to get a fuel for listening to people or making a character judgment. we can break it down to bits and parts they are talking about. most people have a hard time grasping that. the majority of our populace. if they just go with what sounds like the truth to them. it would go along way in this election. >> what is your character judgment of kamala harris and donald trump? >> to me it is dead simple. kamala harris in her career reeks of quality character i can't say on the others. there are people that go both ways. it is going to come down to a lot of people have a hard time putting these bits and pieces together.

the average american is going to end up to shoot from the hip and go i think this feels right. if you do that we will be making a step forward. >> any thoughts to what it comes down here? >> character is a key part of this election. the biden campaign and then the harris campaign trying to paint donald trump as someone who has none of those qualities. has been crystal clear that as part of their messaging strategy for months now. whether that is effective or not, you heard your viewer in hawaii where it is 3:00 in the morning right now say so many people are divided on this. it is another issue that shows how americans are incredibly divided when it comes to these two candidates. >> to max in mechanicsville, maryland. you are on the roundtable. >> thanks for taking my call. you had a sink called earlier who asked a lot of important

questions and it was not addressed. full disclosure, i voted for barack obama, i voted for al gore. considered voting for hillary clinton. . i voted for joe biden. one of the issues the democratic party has and the reason people are considering voting for somebody like trump who i would never vote for and is a flawed individual is they are not addressing the fact barack obama did say russia -- the 80's were calling for their foreign policy back in russia was not an issue and the lady brought up the fact hillary clinton did give the reset button to the foreign minister from russia, her counterpart from russia. also addressing the fact -- there were a lot of things done. you have the dossier created against trump and nobody addresses that. hillary clinton and al gore contested the election, forthright contested it. >> on russia policy, do you

think kamala harris gets tied to the obama administration or the biden harris administration and if it is her own administration, how do you think the biden harris administration has done on ukraine and russia? >> nobody knows who kamala harris is tied to. she has been inserted into the election because joe biden was ousted. we don't even know why. nobody will address why joe biden is not owning for president anymore. what happened? >> did you want him to run as a democrat? >> it doesn't matter now. i voted for him the first time but it does not matter now. there is somebody who did not go through the primary process that was inserted into the election. >> that is max in maryland. on that concern which we heard perhaps more of at the time when

joe biden stepped aside, how much are you hearing that these days besides max? >> i think we are actually hearing a lot less but max makes an important point which is people are confused about the democratic process and all the things that happen. to answer your question, the reason why president biden is no longer on the democratic ticket is his fellow democrats did not feel as though he could win a race against donald trump launched in part because of that june 27 debate. if you ask president biden, i don't he think he would agree with that -- i don't think he would agree with that. i think he feels he would have a good chance but his democratic counterparts including nancy pelosi, other folks in the house and congress no longer had the confidence he could win and also the poll numbers did not say he could win against donald trump. they were really much further apart than they are now with the vice president which is why he stepped down. he said putting his country over party and then you sell the vice

president. i think there is always a question of they inserted the vice president. the fact is that the vice president's team which surprised a lot of people including me who has covered the vice president for more than six years was incredibly adept at consolidating all of the people including jb pritzker, including gretchen whitmer of michigan, all of the people, wes moore in maryland who democrats thought would launch a bid if the current president stepped off the ticket. she consolidated those people in 48 hours. she consolidated the delegates. i guess my answer would be it is hard to run a primary if there are not people to primary the vice president. she did step up and i think her team was adept at it whether or not people feel that is a transparent democratic process is another thing versus what happened. there was a lot of doubt about

president biden's capability after that debate within his own party. that is what led him to step down. >> when we try to get one more call. phyllis has been waiting a while in durango, colorado. >> good morning, c-span. i was watching obama this morning the whole hour. he trashed and made fun of donald trump. my issue is that the democrats will not take any responsibility for dividing the truck -- for dividing the country the way it is. i'm losing it now. >> we will take that point. paul steinhauser, you were in pittsburgh where barack obama was yesterday. what is your take? >> he spent a good portion of speech criticizing donald trump, chiding him and mocking him for trying to sell things to people including the trump bible.

that was part of and you are going to hear that from former president obama going forward on the campaign trail. that is part of his argument that donald trump is not worthy of being reelected back to the presidency. as for this idea of division, democrats for a long time have called donald trump a divider in chief. that is his mantra. both sides in a heated election are going to be saying things that are going to upset voters. that is crystal clear. >> paul steinhauser joining us from pittsburgh. jazmine wright has been in stud wh us. >> a reminder, this program and all of c-span's campaign 2024 coverage can be found online at c-span.org/campaign. >> with one of the tightest races for control of congress in modern political history, stay ahead with c-span's

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