sitting vice president so we haven't seen her come out and weigh in on some of these court cases. but giving -- given it is breaking news it is possible to play out. guest: it has been trying to make the case that trump in his personal capacity as a candidate going into the 2020 election took actions that essentially led to interference in the elections and then also instigated the january 6 uprising. i will say we will find out more details about how they described him as doing so in his personal capacity and whether or not have enough evidence to back that up and reminded viewers that these cases had to be changed due to the immunity ruling that came out in the summer where it said that the president has

widespread immunity with regard to actions taken as president in their capacity as president. so some of the indictments had to be rewritten essentially to address those concerns by the supreme court ruling. and we will see how they read present their -- and have them re-present their cases. host: thank you so much for the time. coming up in about 20 minutes, news max ceo christopher ruddy and his network's role in the ecosystem. it is open forum it now, in a political issue you want to talk about, call in now with the numbers on your screen. we will get two calls right after the break. ♪ >> attention middle and high

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you can watch those two events. you can call in now for our open forum. colors on the line. terry out of iowa, independent. caller: good morning. i hope you give me the time to speak it. i would like to talk about the two ladies you had on. sophie is in denial. it did we not see the video of guys with guns in their hands in the apartment complex kicking in doors, did we not hear from the people who live in the apartment complex? has she not seen the video of the lady who took the video of the people breaking in the door across the hall from her. that is number one. number two, the other gal, vivian, wants to know why journalists are attacked and not understood and all of that, because there are no journalists left today for they are

one-sided, one way or the other. they come out with opinions and they don't report on the news and they don't report on one way and the other way. host: who do you trust for your news. caller: myself. i look at you, msnbc, fox, abc, cbs, nbc. i watch all of them. once i watched a clip from the same narrative of one thing that happened and i watched all of you, i can deduct from that what happened. my other point is to the young man who called in, the young guy you have obviously talked to many times and he was trying to explain to the gentleman he called about talking about paying off student loans and what that does and what that person is going to do to repay that to the government. that gentleman is misinformed.

in 1970's, cars cost $1000 or a couple thousand dollars. look at what they cost today. that is called the cost of living and time and he will see that when he is 40, 50, 60, 70 years old. he will look back and see what something cost him when he is 20 and i what it costs his 28 years old. that angle he is trying is way out there. host: this is packed in upper marlboro maryland, democrat. -- this is pat in upper marble -- upper marlboro maryland, democrat. caller: i would just like to mention, everyone is using the republicans inflation as one of the biggest concerns and yes there is inflation. everybody is at the grocery store.

everybody is eating. we are not living in a country where people have to bring in trucks to feed people. people are buying brand-new cars left and right but we have parties making tissues about that. the next thing is, why is it so important for people to understand that we have had hundreds of years where we have been able to vote. we have people at the polls to check to make sure voting is there but now, because trump feels that if he does not win that everything is being done wrong. the same people talking and calling are the same people that 100 years ago got in line, went

and floated and felt that their voting was fair. it is so easy for them to bring up issues about what is not fair or what is being done wrong when it affects them. this is the united states of america. no one wants to live in a dictatorship or wants a one-man rule. we all have a right and freedom of speech and with what is happening now in america, all of our children need to wake up. host: bob in alpine, california, republican. caller: i have been a conservative republican for a long time and i just think that biden went out because everybody realized he was kind of slowing down and it sounds to me that in

the past month or two, the amount of the stuff that donald trump is saying and getting away with, had he just seems to be rambling. that should give everybody pause and it is not being explored. it is just like, almost not a subject. the subject becomes things like inflation and ivf in these kind of side conversations. obviously he is losing it. he is talking about eating cats and dogs and he doesn't want to be a fact checked about anything. host: are you a republican that is going to vote for harris? caller: that's who is left to vote for. host: who did you want in the republican primary? caller: in this past primary i

didn't vote in the primary. i was sitting back and watching and nothing much developed. host: who did you vote for in 2020? caller: i voted for trump. host: what about 2016? caller: i voted for trump. but i think that he is unstable and not capable of holding in hugh downs at all. there was such a -- not capable of holding an issue down at all. there was such a narrative that biden was calling apart because he had that bad day and i thought so too. he didn't even seem presidential in the debate. ever since harris has come in,

it seems that trump is not wanting to talk about any issue at all. host: in independence, louisiana, david, good morning. caller: on the archives on the internet, do you say the open forum calls? host: you can go back and watch all the different open forums and first hours of the shows and the guests. caller: i forget the most important thing, the people's opinions would be given the least consideration. you barely give us 30 minutes. but i am hoping somebody out there is influential enough to help me. i have loved baseball always ended this type of the year is the best baseball. i really resent them having the

computer generated, superimposed things on. i will listen without looking but i cannot watch the strike zone. host: i want to get back to the politics in public policy. i will note that on american history tv which is every saturday on c-span 2, we have a series called lectures in history that airs at 8:00 and 11:00 p.m. eastern times. this week it is a talk about america's national pastime of baseball and i actually think considering your love of baseball you may want to watch this one. it is a boston college communications professor talking about the importance of baseball. watch it and let me know what you think. caller: it lost its importance and is not the same as it used

to be, my friend area -- my friend. host: anthony is waiting. go ahead. caller: three things first thing is, two months ago you said something about mr. brian lamb who founded the show and i couldn't hear what happened. did he retire or did something happen to him? guest: he is still doing his podcast and you can still hear his podcast on our podcast networks. but he did step away as chairman of the company as ceo and he is doing well and doing podcasts every week. do you have a question or comment? the second thing is -- caller: the second thing is, i am in port st. lucie and we got hit by the storm and there is a concern

that people are being denied. if you could do a show in whenever you get time about fema and things of that nature. and the last thing is, he did think about black men and are they voting for harris or whoever, i am not voting for either because i am concerned about both parts -- parties. but i think i am going to book the third party. keep up the great work of you. host: this is kenny in virginia, republican. good morning. caller: thank you. everybody keeps talking about the voter elections being stolen or fair elections but they don't give us the numbers. we don't get to see the numbers on how many voted versus how

many signed up to vote and they don't show the numbers they just show who wins and who loses. why don't we ever have math on that? do all of the math on all of the numbers. on that night i saw the windows being boarded up in philadelphia, michigan, detroit. and also they didn't let the republican workers in. it is all on video. host: have you ever considered working at a poll on election night? caller: i can't. i wish i could but i can't. i have to do my job. host: in the first hour of our program we have poll workers only call in and uniformly they all expressed confidence in the system that we have it now. caller: what i am saying is you

have the numbers of how many people voted but we don't have the numbers of how many people signed up to vote and how many actually voted. the way i see it, there are more vote than there are voters. that is what it is coming out to be. host: you can go to the virginia secretary of state and looked up voter registration in virginia and compare that with results. all of is available online through i believe the secretary of state that runs the elections in virginia. virginia.gov is the website. billy in california, independent. caller: it is not trump's big lie. polls, election laws, legal experts and groups and judges.

more cases about january 6 and the audits, trump had multiple sources. it is not his big lie. host: elections. virginia.gov is what i should have given up to the previous caller. you can click on the results from 2005 forward and all the election information for that color. this is eric in oklahoma city, independent. caller: good, c-span. i just wanted to comment on it i

think the lady from maryland was talking about how trump, or it might've been the gentleman, he was rambling. i think he gives us more answers and what he is looking for as far as results than kamala. she never gives any straight interests -- answers on how she will get anything done. at least he puts himself out there and tries to let the american public know what he has in mind. i think, the way he handles himself and the viciousness of the legacy media, the way they come after him, i think he does an awesome job. host: this is bill in princeton, kentucky. caller: good morning.

we have so many illegal aliens, what fund is the money coming out of? i can't talk will because i have parkinson's. host: you are concerned about taxpayer money going to immigrants is what your concern is? caller: yes. we have millions of immigrants being housed. who pays for it? it has to come out of some fund. host: john in spring, texas, democrat. caller: good morning. i just want to comment from the last two years from the previous program and they talk about all

of the polling. the pulling is not sharp. it is not accurate. it is to change people's minds. the only truth is when they cast the ballot. in 2016, it was pulled that donald trump was going to win and a lot of people don't like that. this time i would like to say, in my still on the line? host: yes. caller: i predict a landslide, harris is going to win. these times because of the abortion groups in unions are going to cast their vote.

this is my opinion. i was right on 2016 and this time to. for any reason people think donald trump is going to win it, they are wrong. host: this is a dairy, republican and. good morning. caller: good morning. we have a house that votes on those situations and vote on proposals. when it gets past it goes to the senate. the senate passes and then it goes to the president. the house has a republican that rules the house. the speaker is a republican and so right now you have trump that

is over the republicans. so you've got basically. host: where are you going with that? give it another try. i think we lost gary. this is don in california, sacramento on the line for democrats. caller: hello. sitting here listening to everybody in this racism is a bitter pill. whenever you find people willing to give up democracy and freedom , just one man so he can dictate the country, that is really crazy. i don't care if he is black, white, green, or brown. you need to think about what he is doing because this man is going to take us down the trail

of narcissism and all the people who voted for this man will be sitting back asking what has happened and why did we vote for him not and why are we living in the street? all of your white folks thinks that he is going to take care of you, you are going to be right out there with us. host: in fremont, ohio, independent. caller: i am actually a democrat. i tried to call the democrats line and it kept being dizzy. host: you can have your essay. please try to stay on your line in the future because we rotate them. caller: sorry about that. host: go ahead. caller: what is your take on the

hypocrisy of evangelicals? they say it is ok for one candidate to beat the president who is a liar and is racist but it is not ok for the other candidate who is for all of the people. i was just wondering your take on that. host: we will go to richard in independence, pennsylvania. good morning. caller: -- host: turn your tv down and go ahead with your comment. caller: 83 years old and i wonder why our congressmen, senators and presidents lie to us instead of telling us the

truth. social, two or three times took money out of its and now they are talking about doing away with it. we worked our bout off for that and why our country can't treat us like they do other people. they sent billions of dollars overseas of our tax money but can't give us our money back that we worked for in social security. seven and one half to get on this and get a change and put that back into our social security. host: this is bill in spring hill, florida, for publishing. caller: good morning. i agree about the social security on the last caller. i was in the air force in the 1970's and we were able to go

across the border in tijuana and for $25 you could get a drivers license, birth certificate that any guy in the voting booth would not know whether it was real or not. it was made that well. i am sure they make them better. so don't tell me there was voter fraud because i know there was. you can get a license and birth certificate that unless you are an expert you wouldn't know. to go to the voting booth and you have a older gentleman running a voting booth. how is he supposed to know whether your papers are real or not area host: -- or not? host: this is lauren from miami. caller: i was calling about inflation. everyone complains about inflation. my 401(k) is higher under this administration than any other.

my girlfriend says i don't have any money for groceries or gas and i said let's look it. the grocery store, supermarket is making billions. the food that she eats, google that company. they are making millions because they keep raising the prices. host: that is our last caller in open forum today. we have a half hour left. we will be joined by the newsmax ceo christopher ruddy to discuss the network role in the media ecosystem. stick around for that conversation. we will be right back. ♪ >> >> attention middle and high school students across america, time to make your voice heard. our studentcam documentary contest 2025 is here, your chance to create a documentary that can inspire change, raise awareness and make an impact

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