as a senator might do to recruit that situation. >> the promise i made to everybody watching to be transparent, honest, forthright and factual. to make decisions based on the truth. on the rail to help a lot the election cycle a convicted criminal, make stuff up. all the time, every day it does not help with potus or congress. and when you endorse somebody like that you have a responsibility to say that's not right. you need to stand out. up.you need to say patients aret eating dogs and cats. note sharks in the water and batteries in the water.

that is nonsense. i would like to see lou more transparency in congress. john and i agree people only see the bad things on tv because they do not watch c-span. if you watch us he spent like i want to debate everything. i can watch your speeches it fully informs an individual. i think we need to be more transparent and encourage people to watch c-span and to educate themselves. we cannot do it for them. they have a civil responsibility to pay attention. i think congress ratings will go up because john is right. they do a lot of good debate there. >> senator barrasso's 32nd follow-up if you like too. >> no thank you mix it next question is from claire mcfarlane. and mr. morrow will be the first responder two minutes. >> federal judge laster blocked the white house and other federal agencies from pushing for censorship of americans on social media. the discovery in the case revealed the white house and

other federal officials demanded facebook a sensor everything from vaccine critical post to memes. bidens social media outlets would not comply. government censorship or social media age the u.s. supreme court turned away for lack of standing. with executive branches justified and how would you work to address the issue? >> first of all, i am a huge supporter of free speech. secondly i did not get a chance to review the transcripts in the court hearing don't happen this in the court that in the court the rules and make sure the evidence is credible it's hard

to comment. i am amazed with this particular supreme court. i would tell you it's a bit of an overreach. to censor anybody. including these big companies. i'm not happy facebook let someone steal my facebook page they are selling a bit coins and i can't do anything about it. i would like to see that changed. but, not by the executive. i think congress has a responsibility to address this. to get all the facts before they make a decision and to proceed accordingly. >> senator barrasso 90 seconds per going talk about free speech from the concentration for rights of freedom of speech. all around wyoming who post poss what, who controls the media, at the same news weathers abc nbc

cbs. nine have so many different outlets and devices in our pockets. big business related social media has huge impacts on that which leads to some the things you asked about in the previous debate about how news and how what's short fake information gets out there and how perpetrate itself. these are the problems we see with artificial intelligence my concern is it's going to get worse. they don't impede free speech of the american people these are concerns i hear about students at the university is there a couple weeks ago i talked to students at school, what can we get? how do we know it's truly the facts when we see what you just said coming out of the white

house. the white house telling social media information that cannot get out even though it was true the biden administration did not wanted out. >> 32nd follow-up if you'd like. quick didn't think anybody could disagree with that. i don't know about ai and all of that. i hope they do not start coming after me because i'm running against you. i'm not sure you can censor it. i agree in the senate john is introduced a few bills and this 118 congress. the house can take them out but really in the senate we can introduce bills and consider what the house did on these issues. but the house has the purse strings. >> thank you by the next question from chris clements of wyoming public radio. senator barrasso or spofford to administer. >> recently you, senator

barrasso's companion bills in congress that would that power plants to irrigation district with the power plant is located within the boundaries of the wind reservation. some eastern shoshone tribe members have said they were never consulted by wyoming's federal leadership about this conveyance it. in december of last year you called this deal a quote when/win situation for the american people. senator, do you still think it's a win/win situation given the shoshone tribe is said they opponents? >> it's a win-win for the people. it's a hydropower plant. it's about the size of one half football fields. it's a fairly small piece of land for this and federal building on a power plant that's ready to be destroyed, paid for by the government.

it's basically not in use for the last 15 years. the people who live right there get back into use. make sure the power from there can be used locally. we understood the bureau talked to the and they didn't. i understand they did not get. that was a mistake but they that should've been informed early on. but i do believe it's a win/win to use the energy. not have the government have to pay the money to destroy this pit renounced taxpayer money that's going to be is that way. this is making something that is not been in use for 15 years, put it back to functional use for the benefit of the people right here in fremont county. >> the fact the tribe is said they oppose this deal. >> pretty much anything you do sometimes need support, someone opposes based on the size, the location and the use i think it is appropriate and i can get to you the support.

>> mr. morrow 90 seconds for your response? >> i had an opportunity today to talk to the executive secretary of the shoshone people. and twice as large arapahoe country that lives in the same reservation that we subjugated them. we being the white government. i don't think anything should be done on eight reservation. he steal someone's land put them on the reservation it reminds me of when jeff lake and the great lake john mccain paralleled that man but decided just feel steal apache lan and turn it over to a foreign mining company. we just cannot be doing them. we should have the councils of the arapahoe people on the shoshone people make this decision. and then brought it forward. i said in my comments to this

the government always want to give comments if you are interested. that's your only say in the matter unless you are senator like john. in my comments i said we need to let that native people the first peoples make this decision. we will back it up with legislation. we were told the same thing to representative and i got no response. click senator, 32nd follow-up? >> the plan is been there and sitting for 15 years not being used. local people and to activate it again. willing to put the resources in. the energy is a valuable use i still support the program. >> thank you for the next question is from me. mr. morrow will be the first to respond. it has been enough another rough wildlife season in miami with hundreds of thousands of acres burned, major property damage, wildlife losses, air quality dangers, impacts of wyoming's ws vital summer tourism season.

wildfire management comprises a mix of local, state, federal resources. are you satisfied with wildfire management and wyoming? and if not how can it be improved? >> anything can be improved. we've got two different wildlife management considerations here. one is performed by the state for that wyoming state lands. just 53% of the land and our states. the other 47% is owned by the federal government. they will be the ones the feds will determine how they manage that land. i feel so bad for the farmers that we had numerous farms are just burned right down. and the smoke mr. peck was talking about affects me. i have to start doing puffers and everything from the smoke. it literally almost kills me. so we can manage better. i know by my brothers and dome

home they do a great job of bandaging. they go in and trim all of the trees they take the wood and give it to people to have wood for the fireplaces. they really reduce the fire danger doing that. i don't know about the raking leaves things but the convicted criminal he endorsed, said we should sweep the leaves. do not think that is the solution. definitely we can do a better job of trimming out the trees and recycling it. letting people use it. and keeping an eye on stuff. they've got cameras in colorado these big pete's they can spot a fire like that the sooner you get to the fire the better. so yes we need to be careful about keeping the lands in good shape to avoid the fires. and we need to observe them better so we get to know quicker. thank you. >> senator 90 seconds or. >> as at the fire command center thousand firefighters working very hard. it's absolute right when you

talk about the different swing state land and federal land. state forrester twice come to washington to testify in the energy committee from a senior member of that committee. she talked about the difference the way that lands are managed. she is in charge of and private lands. the difference between night and day the lawsuits the environmental extremists acting is much harder to protect the land because they do not let us do the kind of management of those lands. you could take a look at it from the air you can to help manage land, state land from federal land which is much more likely to burn. these firefighters are doing a tremendous job right the communities have come together by the students in winchester mr dayton and cheriton are helping. people are helping in amazing ways but the perimeter of that fire was over 200 miles around. the containment they had about 30 miles contained. but contain what they say the percentage of containment is how

many miles the perimeter is and how many they have contained? it's only 15%. they have a great new technology with drones in addition to the lines that come in and drop of water. they've got drones with ping-pong balls they can seat with infrared what is happening there where it looks like there's going to be a hotspot they can drop it and put out the fire the technology is amazing for the still a long ways to go this weather is helping a lot. >> gym for 30 seconds or. >> i'm sorry i missed on the private lands because there's not really a lot we can do about that unless we want big brother to start getting involved in your personal/private property price don't think you want to do that. i don't what to do that. as far as the technology of very good thing to employ we need to imply that more. and then to talk about the firefighters, oh my goodness. they risk their lives for they do not get paid enough and that really work hard.

it's not an easy job for of couple relatives that have been firefighters and it is hard. >> thank you for the next question from claire mcfarland. senator you will respond first. >> republican delegates often complain about government spending. but debt and deficit continually risen under their watch. to fix that would require a drink unpopular things. but we could do to cut government spending? x first i want to finish something we talked about. we are working in a bipartisan way we talk about things that don't get reported on an upper part bipartisan way with regard to the funding. thirty-five chilean dollars. wyoming families have to live within their means. there the state legislature for

five years. his present of the senate speaker. we balance our budget every year. please look at medicare, social security, something called the bull simpson dimension al simpson's probably wash from cody, wyoming was involved with that. that should have been adopted in a bipartisan way. we have to start the constitutional amendment to balance the budget. >> i guess we finally found an area of disagreement. it is to be expected. they're not on budget. when you cash in a treasury bond make up $2.8 trillion if you're

on social security after collecting her ship. we need to look at and do something about it but cutting it is not the answer. and secondly i hear about the budget deficit. every president in the united states everyone except for andrew johnson provided deficit spending. it is not the president. it's you and congress bring that money when you give a tax break to most of the rich my taxes go up you establish to a 3 trillion-dollar deficit. tax cuts are spending if you look at it the right way when you look at the actual accounting numbers on the budget of the united states. i do not see it as big a deal as everybody else. the seven or 8 trillion the guy he endorsed for president put on the budget, put on the credit card is the highest ever. one quarter of all the deficit in 250 years i cannot take john

at his word when he is concerned about deficits. i think it's something to take a close look at. but not to freak out about. >> 30 seconds. >> it should not surprise anyone i want to keep taxes low. we were able to cut taxes revenue went up but spending when it more than rapid. we spend too much. we introduce the penny plan. you cannot cure it in this department of government their waste in every department of government. he skipped 2% over all debts ovs crushing us right now. the is unsustainable. >> 30 seconds or whatever you get. i'm not sure but please if you get reelected to not be cutting

might medicare and my social security that is my constituents as we depend on that to live. let's cut something else. a few hundred billion of the almost trillion dollars week give to war and so forth and the dod budget part you vote for the nda every year that adds to the deficit. >> chris clements. he will be the first to respond for two minutes. >> many of wyoming leaders governor gordon, senator, chair of the wyoming freedom caucus praise the university of wyoming athletics department decision to forfeit a women's volleyball game san jose state university. the forfeit happened after news stories san jose allegedly having transgender athlete how to use the will help the people of wyoming it won't. it's a political stunt for the

news media. i do not know who this athlete was. i can tell you transgender folks are afflicted with gender dysphoria. it's a psychiatric disorder. it's hurting them and that's why they do it. whether that changes the competition or not i don't know i am not a doctor i can tell you i'm getting tired of big brother getting in between doctors and women's healthcare. people with gender dysphoria disabled people. i think we should leave medical treatment plans to the doctors and the patient. we have no business the governor has no business getting involved and neither does university of wyoming. quick senator? she mentioned the nda in your previous answers national defense authorization act. i do support that it's a matter of principle in addition to one to keep taxes lower at once keep family safe in america strong.

right now the amount of money spent interest on the debt is higher than we are spending on defense in this country. and that's a real problem i have concerns about for security. >> with regard to the forfeiture by the university of wyoming which was your question i supported that forfeiture. i have two daughters involved in sports. for everything you said i want to know about justice for these young women who were trying to compete in sports unsay biologic woman needs to compete against a biologic man i don't agree. the people in wyoming go to university of wyoming you talk ahead of time you talk to people drink the tailgating the people of wyoming are fully in support in terms of the calls coming into my office. support of the women athletes not having to compete against mail athletes. >> 32nd reply. >> thank you. you are right you should listen

to your constituents. that's all i have ever wanted from you. if the constituents are saying that i stated my opinion based on what i consider to be reality. i would have to change my reality is to the constituents but not my own personal feelings or opinions. if that's the case then yes we've got to let whelming do it. i might rather see the student union make that type of decision or maybe get the volleyball team involved. >> the next question is for me and senator barrasso will be the first to respond. the groundbreaking of the nuclear power project wyoming's about to add nuclear energy to its energy profile. congress plays a role in energy policy. his nuclear power a good idea for wyoming and the nation and our ever changing energy mix? >> i think it is. and wyoming is so much energy

independent economic development which is energy driven complete all the sources of energy. coal, oil, gas. mass of uranium supplies here in wyoming. i was just able to get bipartisan signed into law banning imports it's a big thing to help her state come help our country come help our national security. for those concerned about climate right now nuclear power is the largest source of energy production in the country. which has no carbon. the opportunity of what's happening up in their number of times talk to people in the community using retired coal fire power plant new transmission loans are already there. they put it right on the centered area. jobs can stay in that area. businesses will come into the area as well and i think it's a good idea for wyoming. you're right in terms what the

public/private partnership. there's government investment, there's additional private investment all in the effort because meet all the power it demands energy in this country. five years from now heading home to california to the grid but that's what regulatory agencies who look at energy say we need. crypto, all these things eat much much more energy the electrification that's happening around the country. doing this and we will be the lead 1 gram will be broken, the work is being done wyoming will once again be leading the nation. wyoming is america's energy powerhouse. we need to use it all and we have it here in wyoming. >> gym for 90 seconds or nuclear power for. >> we agree on some stuff again although wyoming provides 2% of the nation's energy. part of that is because places

coal and gas jobs are going away because we are running out. even one of your contributors the petroleum association of wyoming says we got 15 years left. that's it. so we do need these types of projects. i'm not a nuclear physicist so i cannot tell you about half-life, the waste is going to create but were going to do with the waste. in all of those concerns a lot of people have it. but i love the idea the bipartisan infrastructure and job enhancement back to you voted against his supplying almost $2 billion the experimental nuclear plant bill gates in one of his charities is providing the rest. i am grateful they are doing that and i'm grateful were giving it a try but let's not think that's going to be the end of it. because we need to look at some these other issues i've been unable to determine because nobody tells experimental plan.

>> think everybody in wyoming goes environmentalists we want to make it as clean as we can come as fast as we can into it in ways that don't raise costs. when he talks about petroleum products running out, we have plenty the federal government wants us to keep it in the ground but they'll be happy to go to venezuela, or let iran export oil to china we have it here, we need to use it here we have american energy resources we are america's energy powerhouse in wyoming we need to continue. correct thank you. next question from claire mcfarlane. mr. morrow ill be the first responder. >> on august 14 there was a shooting on the indian reservation. scanner traffic indicated the shooter was on the run. but for months before the suspect was caught in charge, fbi was not answer questions about whether the violent crime suspect was on the loose in the

community. this is not a one off. sadly this unwillingness to inform the community on the reservation of the dangers on long it is a hallmark of federal policing in this area. will you work to remedy this dire shortfall and police transparency. >> said this happened on the reservation? >> a dire shortage of police transparency on the indian reservation. >> again as much as we can i would like to see the reservation address the issue. they need fun day congress can help up with that. we do owe the first people based on her past behavior as far as the fbi goes it has been their policy for the 70 years i have been alive. when they are in the middle of an investigation are not going to tell you anything. as far as warning people the

tribal council, the business canceled counsel and the shoshone nation should have been a part of that. i agree when we have a dangerous person on the run we should let people know it may be a tricky thing. but it can be done if they want to do it. i'm hearing from you based on those circumstances that you enumerated they probably did not really want to share the information. they probably could have put out a little effort. but these law enforcement agencies get into a think they do a regular structure. more funding for law enforcement on the wind river reservation everett reservation in the united states. but senator, 90 seconds per. >> i agree with you there is a real problem there should but much more transparency for the needs to be transparency. at one point on the indian

affairs committee and the senate and chairman of that committee lead hearings here on the wind river reservation. it's about the size of the state of connecticut part you take a look at how would people live here to try to recruit and retain police officers which is different than the transparency issue you asked about. but to your point making sure we have enough to be able to hire that many, have the people you could recruit to come here. to do the job in an area that is that vast width continues to be a challenge not just on this reservation but reservations are on the country. we had hearings about that there are so many issues about crime and issues related to the reservation. >> 30 seconds if you like it too. >> john is right again it's not easy to train and hire good individuals to do police work.

very corrupt very dangerous police officers. sounds like according to what you said it may be even worse on that wind river reservation for am really grateful you mentioned the entire united states. as a senator we do have that responsibility also in addition to watching out for wyoming. we need more. can we find it? can we hire them? can we find them? >> thank you next question john threw the first respond in paragraphs wyoming leaders, including use senator recycle from attorney general merrick carlin about what his department is doing to prosecute and investigate instances of noncitizens voting and elections. data show cases of noncitizens casting ballots in the u.s. are exceedingly rare. given that, would you say it's a good idea to devote time and energy to this subject? why or why not?

>> ogres threats to our democracy right now people talk about threats to democracy is the issue of the fact we have over 10 million illegal immigrants that have come into this country since joe biden and kamala harris was the white house. if you go in some states where they allow someone to get a drivers license who is not a citizen of the united states. when you apply for the drivers license they say would you like to register to vote? that's the pathway to voter registration for illegal immigrants were not happening in wyoming but it's happening in a number of places. we have laws that say you should not be able to vote you cannot vote if you are an illegal immigrant. the democrats of block the bill that said this has to be the federal law note voting by illegal immigrants. right now the illegal immigrants are counted in the census. why would that matter?