of iron dome. i asked the president along with senator rowns, we asked the president to send home to israel and you see them in action today. i put forth the defend act, protecting israel today. on passover, this last year, i was proud to vote for the supplemental which supported israel. against iran. hamas. and all the terrorists. it also supported ukraine against vladimir putin. >> i would like to ask, 15 seconds to clarify. the question was if there was a line the israeli government could cross that may get you to rethink or not support as much what they're doing. 15 seconds. is it unconditional? >> i think when it comes to terror we always have to stand up to terrorists around the world and brutal dictators like we do with xi y china, putin in ukraine and against iran and its proxies in the middle east.

at the same time israel does have a responsibility to limit civilian casualties. it does have a responsibility to be sure that the humanitarian aid gets in. and it does have a responsibility with all of us to bring back those 101 hostages that have been there over a year. >> thank you. denise has more on the subject. >> a couple days ago, the u.s. government told israel that it needs to provide more humanitarian aid in order to help palestinians in gaza. and if they don't do that in the next 30 days it could lead to the suspension of u.s. military aid to israel. so ms. rosen, you're first with one minute to respond here. do you support this position that the united states is taking on this. >> i do believe we have to get humanitarian aid into gaza, to the citizens there. that need it. i do believe we have to continue to negotiate for the hostages. i will tell you i was proud to co-lead and co-found the abraham accords caucus where with our partners and allies in the region we continue to work on a

path forward. what will be the day after. and how will we support the civilians that have been used by the terrorists, hamas, houthis and others. we need to continue to get that aid in. we'll go back to work in the next few weeks and i believe we'll be passing another supplemental aid package. >> mr. brown, one minute to respond. do you support this new position that they're take, this hard line, that just happened this week? >> absolutely not. i do not support that position. it's amazing that senator rosen dodged answering that question explicitly. as someone who has seen the hor recovers war, no one should have to go through that. and that was the -- that was the amazing thing we had in the leadership of president trump. that is what we will have again when president trump is back in the white house. and i can be an ally to him in

the senate. but with -- when we have these conflict, again this is snag should be an easy answer from any politician. we do not need to be drawing red lines on what israel can or cannot do or how we'll support israel. >> can i just -- >> i'm going to give you a few seconds. do you support this ultimatum that the united states has given? >> i do not support the ultimatum. i believe that we need to support israel in its fight against terror but what i do support is our responsibility to help those civilians who are suffering in gaza or to help limit civilian casualties. we can and we must do both. fight terror and support the innocent civilians. >> all right. we appreciate that tonight. we move on to the next question. >> we're going to discuss an issue you both brought up. energy. if you take a look at this map, it shows nevada has more than 130 pending renewble energy projects. they could blanket hundreds of

square miles across the state. mr. brown, we start with you. you have one minute to answer. how would you help small counties in nevada manage the growth of these projects? >> emergency is a national issue. and we need to have the most available, efficient, and cheap energy possible. that's what nevadans are demanding. again, we go back to kind of the economy issue here. most of us can't afford basic life at this point. and it's easy for senator rosen as an elitist who lives in a dwaited community, who is known to have violated the stock act multiple times and has a $15 million trust, to sit back and say oh, let's pursue these green energy policies. at the end of the day what these local, rural communities want is a chance to develop in their own way. this gets back to land spills where we free up land for them. but we also need to have incentives like people keeping

dollar nairs pockets. we must extend the tax cuts that are set to expire that senator rosen won't commit to extending. we have decrease -- we have to decrease regulations that add costs to our life. these are issues an elitist like senator rosen don't understand. >> 15 seconds to clarify, you want them to develop these projects in their own way. how? >> just develop in general. a lot of counties are land do locked. we need to be able to, just like a federal land spill here in clark county, the one discussed in reno, we need to free up land around the smaller communities so they can build out whatever sort of business projects, residential home projects that they see fit. again, d.c. doesn't know any better than our local and state officials. >> ms. rosen, you also have one minute to answer this question. how would you help small counties in nevada manage the growth of these projects?

>> i'm really glad you asked that. because sam powf would have voted against all of this investment we have made in nevada that's bringing billions of dollars to our state. so our geography and geology like i said before, lead us to be part of the sustainable energy future, wind, water, solar, geothermal. more solar jobs per capita than any other state in the nation. companies are moving here to build component pars for solar panels. i can tell you that we've been designated the lithium loop and we have had companies commit billions of dollars of investment to increasing battery storage, research and development. these are thousands of jobs across nevada and as i travel around the state and i'm very proud to have so many mayors, republican mayors endorsing me because my team and i, many of my team even raised in rural nevada, we go around the state, we talk to them regularly about how they're going to be sure that they develop in a smart way. in a way that retains the personality of their community but allows for new development.

it's really important to rural nevada that we retain the flavor of their communities. and so we brought millions of dollars to our small -- smaller downies in order for them to start building infrastructure out to accept these prompts. >> a 15 second point of clarification. the counties have many jobs but don't have many employees. how will they nag? >> what i want to tell you is this. we have made these historic investments, billions, bright line train is coming to nevada. 30,000 jobs, billions of dollars of economic impact. the next thing we have to do is be sure we build out apprenticeship, whether labor, cyber, high tech, advanced manufacturing. we have a shortage of nurses and medical professionals in nevada. i've been working community colleges, particularly in our rural communities. we need to build out our work force is my point. >> she said you would have voted down these bills. >> it's a bipartisan

infrastructure law he would have voted against it. >> 30 seconds to respond to that. >> this is exactly the sort of thing that nevadans are tired of this insider politician talk. the reality is, senator rosen, when you hear words like sustainable energy. think higher cost of energy. when you hear billions of dollars of investments, think, where are the home for all these new workers? who will pay for that? how are local communities going to afford that? whenever you hear things like i know these rural communities, but you can't even talk to the issues that they're talking to me about, this is concerning. >> there's a reason the republican mayors are endorsing me in rural nevada. >> most of us live in nevada that senator rosen lives in, they're not the same. >> we're going to move on to another environmental issue. something that's the life blood of nevada. water. water that comes from the colorado river specifically, which is experiencing a historic drought. hundreds of years ago, seven western states agreed to share that water.

california uses 20 times more water than nevada. mostly for agriculture. ms. rosen, we're going to start with you. you have one minute to answer. what is the one thing you would demand in a new agreement protecting the future growth of nevada? >> i think that we have to be sure that those of us who live along the colorado river, every single person, every single community, that we are doing everything we can to invest in water smart technology. water smart farming. resiliency. all of those things. we did that with the inflation reduction act which my opponent would have voted against. and i can tell you, i visited a farm up in winnemanka a potato farm. they're using smart farming. they're increasing their yield. they're using less water. these are the kinds of things we have to do when we work along the colorado river, the colorado river compact, to make sure that everyone is doing their fair share and everyone is using and developing the best water smart

technologies that we can. >> mr. brown, same question for you. one minute to answer. what is the one thing you would demand in a new agreement protecting the future growth of nevada? >> let me be clear. i would demand that california become more responsible. they are not entitled to a permanent large share of this water when nevada has led the way on conservation. look, i've written an article about this. there is probably very few families that enjoy the great outdoors as much as i do, until i got on this campaign. now i've got to be in a suit a lot more. the reality is, we all love our environment. we love the great outdoors. nevada needs to be celebrated for what we've done. we cannot allow california to get away with the way they allow water to be wasted. that is a precious resource. it's important to us. california is not managing it. they're not stewarding the resource well. >> we're going to move on to john who has a question on another important topic.

>> let's turn to immigration if we can here. since the biden administration started, nearly 11 million migrants have crossed into the u.s. former president trump is promising mass deportations. mr. brown, we'll start with you. one minute to respond. do you think that's a good idea? >> i'll tell you what's a good idea is securing the border on day one. when president trump was in office we saw record illegal crossings. we need that again. this administration on tai one, president biden went and started dismantling the secure border and policies around that that we have. here's one of the things that a senator like -- an insider like senator rosen won't tell anyone. she sits on the security committee. in her six years he's been to the border one time. where is she to defend us? over 10 million people have come across our border. we're talking about drugs, we're talking about terrorists, human trafficking. this is a crisis. we must confront the cartel. this is a very serious issue

that president trump has a track railroad on. i will support making sure that criminals who are here illegally, like the 13,000 murderers that we just -- convicted murderers we just found out are here. senator rosen, why have you not told us about this? congress has known. they need to be deported immediately. >> mr. brown, thank you. ms. rosen, i'll get to you in a moment. i want to clarify for 15 seconds mr. brown, the question was about former president trump promising mass deportation. do you support that? how would it happen? >> that's a very big logistical undertaking. what i can tell you is we start with securing the border. then we deport those criminals like the 13,000 people who are convicted of homicide. we have sexual -- convicted sexual assault people here as well as criminals here as well. we can start there. but this is a huge undertaking but it starts with securing that border. >> thank you very much. ms. rosen, the question for you.

to you support increasing funding and security on the board her illegal crossings are at a reduced pace after president biden brought back policy, immigration poll circumstances somewhat similar to the trump administration. one minute to respond here. would you encourage the next president to keep some of those policies in place? one minute. >> first thing i'd to is pass the border protection act. my opponent sam brown said he was against that bill before he could have even read it because the bill text wasn't out because president trump said he wanted to use it as a political football. i speak with our border patrol regularly. i've been to the border multiple times. and our border protection act, negotiated by a democrat, independent, and republican, gave the border patrol what they needed. in fact it's endorsed by the border patrol union. gave them tools, resources and training at our ports of entry. so when trucks and cars go through, they go through x-ray, they can use artificial intelligence to stop the flow of fentanyl, to stop human trafficking. when that bill didn't pass we do have a fentanyl crisis.

i have two bill -- i had two bills in that package to stop fentanyl and end fentanyl bills. i pulled those out and they are now signed into law because our border patrol ages need to take care of that. since i've been in the senate i have been calling for comp rehencive imfraition reform, one that secure ours border and stops the tedly flow of cyle and fentanyl as a humane and orderly asylum process. >> i would like 15 seconds to clarify again, the question is about if you would encourage the next president, whoever that might be to keep some of these tougher poll snis place, would you support remain in mexico? things along those lines? 15 seconds. >> i think we have to do what we did with the border protection act. we can take it as a whoasm we can see what we need to do to be sure that we're securing our border. but we have to do more than that. we have to secure our border and then have pathways to citizenship. i want to address the deportation. how would that happen? mass deportation?

who would get caught in that? how many innocent people would get rounded up. we have to be careful about what we do. >> 30 seconds to respond, mr. brown. >> this is again what you'd expect out of an elitist from d.c. whose own neighborhood has more security than our border. with gate and security guards. our border deserves that too. our communities deserve that. this bill would allow for eight million people to come -- guaranteed, to come across as asylum seekers. it would pay for their legal counsel. it would pay to fly people into the country illegally. we talk about the border patrol union, they endorsed president trump. and president trump has ep coursed me. if you want someone who will be serious on the boredder it's president trump and sam brown. >> 15 seconds. >> i want to tell you my opponent is so stubborn and so extreme he often use es -- uses

the words not negotiable, no middle ground, for what he's doing. i'm one of the most bipartisan and independent senators serving today. over 09% of the bills i introduced are bipartisan. i work with everyone in order to craft solutions to prague gnat i think solutions. that's what i'll do in this case. >> we have to move on. >> it is time for us to take a short break. we're going to be back in a few minutes with questions about reproductive rights and also this from our chief investigator george knapp. >> what's out there? it's a mystery that could take the government to 106 solve. up next i question our candidates on the secrets our government keeps.

>> welcome back. we want to go to a topic made famous here in southern nevada. george knapp who you may know as the u.f.o. reporter has our question. >> there have been recent revelations of government agencies looking into u.a.p.'s, more commonly known as u.f.o.'s. this is one of the more famous ones, the tick tak u.f.o. we're not sure what it is but it appears to be a matter of national security. new u.a.p. hearings are slated for both the house and senate. do you support more u.f.o. transparency and should congress create something independent of the department of defense to conduct the research? >> ms. rosen, you have one minute here. should congress do its own independent investigation into u.f.o.'s? >> well, this is a topic that we have talked about, i sit on the armed services committee, we know that as your video showed,

area 51 is here in nevada. in the center of nevada. it's a top secret military site. i do think it's important that we do our independent investigation, of course, in the nat we are responsible for oversight. we have committees in both houses. i do think it would be important to see what we're doing there and if there is any merit to this. >> mr. brown, you have one minute hear to respond. should congress do it own independent investigation into u.f.o.'s? >> i think i'm as curious as anyone. i'd love to know what's going on. i never saw any sort of technology like that when i was in the service. not sure i'd fully trust congress. you know. to be able to figure it out. maybe elon musk can. when you're talking about secrets, here's the secrets i think nevadans need to know about. why senator rosen has violated the stock act multiple times. as one with -- as someone with a $15 million trust whose net worth went up 61% while most of

us are suffering with the high eprices and less take home pay, we're worried about paying ren, putting food on our table. some people have to leave the dignity of retirement and go back to work. we want to know what is senator rosen trading on and why does she have hundreds of thousands of dollars of big pharma stock while she continues to profit and we suffer? >> let me give you 30 seconds. >> it had nothing to do with u.f.o.'s but i want to tell you. i'm the granddaughter of imgrans on my father's side my grer was a cook, my grandfather a barber, my father a salesman. on my mother's side my grandmother a sickle mother, a union worker, a factory worker. third shift. her whole life i put myself through college as a waitress. i always worked hard. this has been debunked. all of this has been debunked. i introduced and sponsored bills to prevent members of congress trading stocks and not own stocks. when they're in congress. and so this has been debunked.

i always worked for hardworking families. i came from that kind of a family. and i'm going to continue to help the middle class. >> now we're going to move on to a different part of the program. these are individual questions for each of our candidates. there is no rebuttal. just for the specific candidate and we begin with josh what. >> we start with you, ms. rosen. this question is about, you have 30 seconds to respond. you're already sponsoring legislation on ethics reform for the supreme court. what do you think -- would you take it a step further by adding justices to the court or imposing term limits? >> i can tell you that our supreme court needs to be held to the same code of ethics that every other judge and elected official is held to in this country. i don't agree with increasing the size of the supreme court. some people have talked about creating term limbs for supreme court. so that there's a rotating group of supreme court justices. i do think we have to look at how the supreme court rules and

we absolutely, 100%, need to hold them accountable. and transparent in their transactions for cases that become -- that come before the supreme court. >> 15 seconds point of clarification. would you add more justices? >> i would not add more justices. >> let's talk about the proposed but never completed yucca mountain nuclear waste dump. it's about 60 miles outside of las vegas. back in 2022 you said yucca mountain is, i'm quoting here, an incredible los of revenue for our state. >> i did change my position. all i said is there's opportunities for us to -- that we should explore on what can drive revenue for the state. i made no determination on yucca at that time. but having done the research, i can tell you, yucca mountain is

dead. i would not support a reopening of yucca mountain just to store the fuel from other states. but what is clear is, we do need to take seriously our energy future and green energy like a proposal from this administration to cover millions of acres of nevada with solar panels is probably not the right solution either. >> mr. brown, thank you very much. denise, to you. >> that's the end of our individual questions. now we move back to questions for beth of our candidates. let's turn now to the topic of women's reproductive rights. there have been legal protections for abortion in nevada for more than three decades now. in fact right now the issue is on the ballot to put it into the state constitution. mr. brown, we'll start with you on this question tonight with one minute. what's your position on a national ban on abortion? >> look, i've been clear, let me just state this up front. i would not vote for any national ban. however, this is a very, very personal issue for so many people. for so many women and families.

and i come at this as someone who is informed by my wife's experience. unfortunately, she had an unexpected pregnancy and a traumatic situation that ended with an abortion. and it was very traumatic for her. what she told me as she was recovering from that was that she wishes she had more support. i think that this partisan issue needs to be -- we need to refocus on supporting women. i also stand by nevada's law. that allows for abortion up to 4 weeks. i stand by and allow that we should allow for women to have exceptions for rape, incest and threats to the life of the mother. nevadans have made our law clear 34 years ago. i stand by that law and would not vote for a national abortion ban. >> thank you for sharing that personal story as well. ms. rosen, with one minute here. are there any limits on abortion you would support? >> first of all, i support restoring roe v. wade and i support question six which my

opponent says he will not support. he says he's a no. he says his positions are not negotiable for him. he has a decade-long record of saying he's against any exceptions on abortion even in the case of rape or incest. not negotiable. women are dying. one third of american women don't have access to care and you can see in cities -- after city in this country, women are willing tairnd way from emergency rooms or dying in hospitals. this is fundamentally about freedom. i will tell you that complications late in pregnancy, they are tragic. they are horrific. and they are rare. and i will always tell you that a doctor's office, a hospital room, or an emergency room, is too small a place for a woman, her family, and her doctor to have a politician like sam brown, mitch mcconnell or anyone else sitting in there making -- telling them what they can and can't do. watching them potentially die look they did in georgia. too crowded. if you don't believe that he would support a nationwide

abortion ban then i've got some ocean front property to sell you on the las vegas strip. >> 15 seconds to go on the record here to respond to what she's saying. >> thank you. it's sad that i have to go on the record again and again because of the deceptions of senator rosen. >> this is his decade-long record. >> this is his time. >> this is a serious issue. this should not be a hyper partisan issue. we are talking about the lives of women. i have been clear that i would not support a national abortion ban. i don't appreciate, i don't think the voters of nevada appreciate when people lead with deception on this issue. we need to lead with empathy and care. >> may i have one sentence on that? >> no, we're moving on. kamala harris proposed getting rid of the filibuster in order to make roe v. wade federal law. so mr. brown, your first -- you're first, you have 30 seconds to reply. is there any scenario where you support getting rid of the fill bust her. >> absolutely not. when republicans had control of the senate, i was against

getting rid of the filibuster. when democrats have control of the senate, i also would be opposed to getting rid of the filibuster. the filibuster is there for the minority. and at this point in time, as in our entire history, it is important that we protect the minority voice in this country. the senate should not be a place where we just ram legislation through and regardless of which party has control, i would not eliminate the filibuster. >> thank you, mr. brown. ms. rosen with 30 seconds. would you be in favor of eliminating filibuster to pass a national standard for abortion? >> i will tell you this, take sam brown at his railroad and women can't trust him when he changes his position. s that his third run for public office. >> the question is -- >> the filibuster. we have supported carveouts for the fill buster to restore roe v. wade and restore voting rights but i do support reforms that help make us less stuck in the senate. there are ways we can reform the

filibuster that make it work for everyone so no one on an extreme side, on either side, can use it as a weapon and we can continue to pass bills. thank you. >> has our next question. >> right now there's an ongoing controversy over transgender athletes in college sports. some university of nevada-reno women's volleyball players are refusing to play against san jose state because of a transgender member on its team. this raises questions over federal title ix protections for gender equality in college port. ms. rosen, i'll start with you. one minute to respond. what rights if any should transgender athletes have while competing in women's sports? >> i can tell you that all student athletes deserve to have a fair competition and a level playing field. so i support parents, coaches and the governing leagues. they are the governing bodies. they are the experts. i believe that they are the right ones to make these decisions. not politicians. so, as in every other sporting

issue, we allowing the governing bodies to make those decisions. i think we should do that now. >> we'll move on. mr. brown. same question for you. one minute to answer. what rights if any, should transgender athletes have while competing in women's collegiate sports? >> let me be clear. what we heard was a politician say she does not have enough knowledge on this issue to know whether or not biological males should be allowed to play in women's sports. i will not support biological males playing in women's sports. i was proud to stand with the university of nevada-reno's women's volleyball team on tuesday evening as they came out in a stand, a courageous act, to defend their ability to have a fair and safe and also private locker room for their own sake. it's sad to me when these young women are having to take a courageous stand and our pool decisions can't even say they have enough expertise to be able to weigh in on this issue.

this is shameful. >> mr. brown, thank you. ms. rosen, you were addressed there. you have 30 seconds to respond, if you care to respond to that? >> we do have governing bodies. we have coaches, parents and leagues and they make all the decisions for sporting events. i think we should leave the decisions to the experts who make them. not politicians. i actually, i fully support that all athletes should have a fair competition and a level playing field. and allow the govern yog gsh governing bodies we have now like ncaa and others depending on where you're competing to make those rules and set those program terse. >> we're going to focus on the topic that's dear to both of you and to our country as well. veterans. v.a. facilities in southern nevada have been investigated for the deaths of two people. mr. brown, one minute, you are a veteran. do you feel you receive adequate care when you're treated at a

v.a. hospital? >> yes. let me tell you that as a veteran, i do get my care from the v.a. hospital. in fact, i was just at the reno v.a. hospital this morning. i also realized that the v.a. system, just like any federal system, doesn't cover everything it needs to. doesn't have perfect care. it's one of the reasons i started my business when i moved here to nevada to provide emergency andto provide emergent care to access to pharmaceuticals for veterans when hospitals were not able to. the v.a. is an important part of our health care system. it is when i personally utilize. my wife as a veteran utilizes it. it does have room to get better. what i see is incredible providers, nurses, doctors and so on but the bureaucracy and the processes create some of these missed spots where people end up in a really bad at