both the candidates very well. i think kamala harris is the only candidate in this race -- [applause] that has had the vision, experience, the temperment, and yes, the will to do that on good and bad days. one of the things i find most interesting about donald trump which has surprised me as someone who has known him over the years and there were times we had a cordial relationship and he was nice to me until he decided to have hillary should be locked up for her email practices which the state department said, the state department said she sent out exactly zero confidential emails

and received exactly zero. and somehow he was able to make that the biggest issue in 2016. but any way, he now makes this into personal grievancees and these crazy conspiracy. and congressman greene said it's the deep state and the ability to direct lasers into hurricanes so that instead of what usually happens is that eastern north carolina is hit with more red north carolina. and they want people to believe that.

i remember when i was a young man, i fell in love with thomas wolf novels and i read all of them and couldn't wait to go to asheville and it is a beautiful place. and i played that that woodrow wilson, the idea that someone who willfully destroy or hurt people in that part of the nation because of their politics is appalling. but i am sure now there are people that believe it. what happened, we lost our local newspapers and radio stations and everything was the planet. but the most extreme media --

and friends on fox news. she did a good job with brett baier, didn't she? [applause] one of the things that bothers me when someone says how bad they are and how awful they are, they don't tell you the full story. certainly trump doesn't. this is the most important thing for you to actually solve the problems that he moans about. solutions and getting along better with your neighbors are bad for his band, isn't that right? you don't have to cut the lies. i came up this morning and i

made it happen. it rained yesterday. if i had been president, it never would have happened. it's always about him. one reason i want kamala harris is that it will be about you. [cheers and applause] number two, kamala harris wants to go forward and not backward. she doesn't want to waste time talking about this stuff. look at inflation and the economy. i did have the job for eight years and we had the longest peace time expansion in history. [cheers and applause] balanced the budget in 30 years.

[cheers and applause] we paid $600 billion to end the national debt. but you got to know when to say, and you can't pretend that all spending is the same. if you look ti candidates' plan, the trump plan is twice as more expensive as the harris plan and it will help way less than half the people that the harris-walz plan will help because their plan goes mostly to help already wealthy people and wealthy corporations who don't need it and won't necessarily invest which is going to the middle

class and so while he is voting for the democrats, a lot of people say there has been too much inflation. that's right. when covid happened and the economy and the world shut down, it broke the supply chain. and when the supply chain is broken and the demand for goods is much higher than the available supply, when the supply chain ends here, the price forces a raise. that happened everywhere in the world. now what happened? the administration of president biden and all of his economic team and vice president harris tried to get the inflation rate going down and finally the federal reserve has lowered

interest rates which is going to drive it down more. [applause] so there is still some residual inflation that we have especially in the fuel prices. now here's how that works, if you look nationwide, there are still quite a large number of independent grocery stores, especially in smaller places, but have a limited number of supplies. and then there's the problem of concentration in larger places of huge grocery stores with massive numbers of customers having a big sale and markup. it sounds like a low profit

margin, but if you got millions of customers, you can make a ton of money with that profit margin and the difference of 1% might be enormous and it might come off people buying meager groceries to stay alive. most states have antiprice gouging laws but we always let it to states before. and this is changing before our eyes and getting more and more concentrated and harris was the first one to say we need a national price gouging law. [cheers and applause] and bob casey, the senator from pennsylvania, has already introduced one. you have them in blue states and red. we might be able to get a big

partisan vote for them. but we won't but we won't get it if they don't get it in the congress and we don't have a president standing behind us. once the justice department starts to look into these things, prices may start to drop a little bit. if you think you are free to do whatever you want, it's a different than if you have to think about if the law will come down on you. this is just one example, but she is in this looking for a practical solution to a big problem. people doing their best to run independent grocery stores and

people trying to do the best for their families at reasonable prices. so i hope you will think about that and i hope you will talk to your neighbors about that. we just started this early morning. there is still time to talk to people. but i think it's unfair -- i will back off from calling names, but it's unfair to pretend that we could be the only country in the world that will escape this inflation problem, and she is actually trying to do something about it. that's the first thing. second thing is she will help working families by another big increase in the earned income tax credit. [applause]

and i know this will work, and the ruby -- there will be $6,000 in the first year of a baby's life. i know this will work because i know that when i was president and it was the beginning of that and we started with the first family tax credit -- it was only about $500 a child then, but that was back in the dark ages when i served. [laughter] but together, those things moved 8 million people and working families from poverty into the middle class. this works. [applause] since we started on this road, child poverty has gone down

almost 60%, and if we interact what kamala harris and tim walz want to do, it will be cut in half again. the guys on the other talk a lot about family values, but i think how your children live, eat, get medical care and handle medical responsibilities that they impose on their parents, i think those are very important family values. so what does donald trump want to do? his economic plan basically amounts to more tax cuts for the

ultra-wealthy. he does impose tariffs across the board, and all the surveys show that that's kinda popular because it sounds like he's zapping foreigners. here's the problem -- if you double tariffs on stuff that we don't make here but you have to buy, all you are doing is raising the price of stuff we have to buy. it doesn't create any jobs for anybody. it's not like the ships bill -- the chips bill where president biden got the support to start manufacturing computer chips in the united states. this is just stuff -- anything. buying pencils for your kids to go to school with, whatever. if you do that, it it amounts to a sales tax on every family.

these tariffs will hurt lower and middle income families most because north americans spend a larger percentage of their income on goods and, the very things we don't produce here, so economists say it would cost middle-class families about $4000 a year, and by raising the price of essentials like gas, medicine, and prescription drugs, which also he wants to do , it will become worse. please talk to your friends about that. and then there's the jobs issue. we are about to finish the four-year term which has produced more jobs than any four-year term in the history of the united states.

[cheers and applause] and it's kind of rich barron trump talk about how bad -- hearing trump talk about how bad the economy is under biden. he will complain that's not fair because look at what i had to go through with covid, but he inherited a booming economy and had the great good luck that most voters did not feel it yet because there's often about a three-year lag between when something good or bad happens and anyone is going to feel it, but already before covid happened, the job growth under trump was a down from president obama's last two years.

he wants you to believe, like i said before, a whole different world started when i took office, and, boom, everything got fixed, when, in fact, the job growth was already underway, so democrats do know how to create jobs. [applause] since the end of the cold war, about 51 million new jobs have been created by the private sector. 50 million under democrats. if tim walz would still -- were still out here, he would tell you if you are had 50-1 -- ahead 50-1, you are winning. if you vote for tim walz and kamala harris, they will up the score even more.

the same thing with health care. as i said, republicans donald trump's support, both before and during the time he was president, voted 60 times to reveal -- repeal the affordable care act. now he says he still wants to repeal it, but he will replace it with concepts of a plan. [laughter] meanwhile, you got to pay the health care bill. i mean, if i came to you with concepts of a plan, you would tell me to take a hike. concepts of a plan means you are going to lose protections for existing conditions. you are going to lose much of the freedoms we have and the options we have, and i don't care what they say, they are

coming after the right to choose if they went -- if they win. [applause] so what's going to happen? limits on insulin pricing will be gone. the $2000 limit a year for seniors will be gone. harris and walz want to get rid of the age limit and bring this down to other people. we know a lot of these people are selling medicine for astronomically more than it cost to make it. so if you want to spend more for less, pay more for prescription drugs, take the safety net away, create a more calamitous world for your family, you've got a

good choice here. [laughter] trump is waiting for you. [laughter] now, look, look at his own vice president, members of his cabinet, prominent members of republican congress, military leaders, members of his own administration who will not endorse him because they say kamala harris will honor the constitution and give us a new -- give us a normal life and enhance our strengths, and he will not. [applause] he wants four more years of chaos, four more years of the blame game. we want a leader who will take

us to buckle down, to solve problems, to seize the opportunities, to give us a stronger middle-class with greater ability for more people to work their way into it. we want to do things, and we are tired of wasting time talking about problems. we want more affordable housing, more affordable health care. you heard what governor walz said about housing. more affordable childcare, more financing for small businesses, stronger alliances for freedom and democracy around the world, including in ukraine. [cheers and applause]

and we want peace in the middle east that secures israel's future and gives palestinians a right to a homeland. [applause] that's what we want. we want to lead but through cooperation and were not too interested in hearing about the late, great hannibal lector. [laughter] or the very real wishes of president putin and the president of north korea. folks, it's dangerous. we are all having fun. i want you to have a good time, but this is really serious. here's what i know -- for 250 years now, we have always been

divided. benjamin franklin's only son was a loyal governor of new jersey and was never reconciled with his father. you cannot get over every conflict, but we've got a constitution which specified how they were all going to be handled. basically, could be subtitled "let's make a deal." majority rule, minority rights, individual rights, the rule of law, and all us living under the same rule. but somehow, we kept hope alive. we kept marching together. we should not despair about these divisions. we have to do something about it. [applause]

we all have to reach out our hands to our neighbors, those that agree with us and those that don't. we should realize that more than ever before in my lifetime, the fundamental protections of the constitution -- majority rule, minority rights, individual rights, rule of law, same set of rules apply to everybody -- those things are in great danger , and i'm telling you, i think it is an enormous opportunity that we have been given to elect kamala harris. [cheers and applause]

i think she is clearly up for the job. tim walz is clearly up for the job. they will bring us together and move us forward. will everything be hunky-dory? will you agree with everything they do? no, this is the real world, but you still get a chance to do as much good for as many people, so go out there and win this because -- [cheers and applause] your country needs you. your families need you. future generations need you. so, starting today, take advantage of the chance to vote early and spend the rest of the

time all the way to election day taking other people to the polls. [applause] a lot of people need a plan to vote. they need help voting. we have so much hay in the barn. there is not another country on the face of this earth that is better position for the next 20 years than the united states -- not one. [cheers and applause] but we have been through so much turmoil, so much trouble. we still have people with ptsd from covid. this has been tough on people. you've got to take a deep breath and push this thing over the finish line. thank you.

on behalf of my grandchildren and yours, there is a lot on the line. so far, for more than 250 years, everybody that has been against america has lost money. [cheers and applause] do not -- don't let them down. don't let the future down. don't let the kids down. don't let the prospect that we might learn to live together, learn from each other, and have fun again with our differences got away. you can do it. [cheers and applause]

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♪♪ >> welcome. welcome. i am thrilled to be here. >> thank you for coming. moms all over the country watching tonight are very eager to hear what your positions are

on all of these issues. they have some questions so we can ask some questions. a vice president pick exactly three months ago today. >> i did not even realize that. it felt like three years ago. >> it does because we were there >> the days are short, but the weeks are really long. it is like marine corps boot camp. it's going so fast you don't realize it is passing you by, then you wake up in here we are. >> the last three months. >> what has that been like? >> while there is so much i could talk about. we are proud of these guys and we are very grateful to them. having a secret service detail is very weird. i have not driven a car in three months which my wife is probably happy about because i have a bit

of a lead foot. all the mobs are probably happy that jd vance is not on the road the last couple of months. it is so unusual because you show up to the grocery store and they are like 15 guys surrounding you with little things in their ear. even if they have no idea what you are, somebody has to be here because all the secret service is around. there is no anonymity anymore. it is one of the things that just come along with the territory. we are having a good time. what is different for running for the senate than for vice president, i ran for the first time a couple years ago, i joke, right around the back of a used subaru owned by one of my staff members in our right around on a 737. a little bit more comfortable than it was. this is partially just because, you know, life happens and we had our third baby before the

republican primary when i was running for senate. this time the kids are two, four , seven and they can come with us and they are part of the journey a little bit. it is a really cool thing to see the country from the perspective of them. it is been a very nice thing. a great family event for all of us. >> together on the tucker to her talking about how you may have had to cancel on tucker. [laughter] >> you didn't visit any carnivals became you -- before you came here. >> we are not too far from her she. so, yeah. again, you are surrounded by secret service and everybody knows who i am now. every time they do something there 10 different iphone cameras trained on me. my 7-year-old, i really want you on a roller coaster at hersheypark.

you have to go on one of these spinney rides afterwards. i do the roller coaster, it is great. i think to myself, i am going to throw up. it was going so fast. you could see these cameras from outside the ride. when i throw up, it will look like one of these old sprinklers it will be captured on camera for the entire internet to see. luckily, i held together. i think they may have stopped the ride a few seconds early. but, you know, whatever revenge my son, ever wanted to get revenge on me. >> that was a very miserable two minute spinrite. my son, where else do you get to go to all of these different theme parks and see all of these

different parts of the country. >> that is a great opportunity. >> again, you see it through their eyes. they make little observations. they are really into the cherries that we bring home. or we go to hersheypark. they have all of these recedes theme treats. they notice things that i don't think you notice if you are 40 -year-old guy. i think that noticing has been a really fun part of this. >> while. supermom. >> she really is. my wife is this amazing person. she quit her job when trump asked me to become his running mate. i really brilliant corporate litigator. we do this i will make it as easy on the kids as possible. i will come around and travel with you.

if we do this let's make it a family adventure. i will tell you a story. one of the first times that the president actually met my wife, the first time i talked in any detail we were throwing a fundraiser for him. you are so beautiful, so glad to see you. he is a very engaging guy despite what the media tells you about them. he is actually very warm and normal person. he oscar what she thinks about me being involved in politics. it is a very diplomatic answer. my son really loves public service. i'm just really thrilled to be able to help them out where i can. trump goes, yeah, my wife hates it, to. [laughter] >> i'm so glad you brought up trumps honesty. >> that is what i love about

trump. he finds the real truth in something. he just points his finger right at it. >> a lot of people have brought up the fact that you are not a big fan of president trump and that you are very vocal about it i think moms would like to know, what changed? >> a lot changed. one i become a father. my first was born in 2017 in my second a few years later in my third a few after that. when i became a father i took a slightly different perspective. a little bit more protective, a little bit more worried about the future. you know, becoming a dad change your perspective like that. there were a lot of predictions made about donald trump's four years of office. i think for swing voters on the

fence, there are a lot of predictions right now being made about donald trump. that is what the media and the democrats say. i am ashamed to admit it but it's more important to be honest i kind of bought into some of the lies in 2016. then he was president and take-home pay was going up faster than it had probably in years. the border was secured. they also donald trump would start world war iii yet we had more world peace around the globe that we had had in a generation in this country. [applause] politics is sort of, i think the incentives are all messed up in politics. people don't want to admit they change their mind. there is this thing where you try to pretend that even though it's obvious you screwed something up, you never want to admit it.

i thought this would happen. something else happened i was wrong. it is okay to be humble and say i screwed something up. for a lot of voters still in this sense i would say the very same thing they are saying about trump now they said in 2015 and 2016. i think that we will have an even bigger and better presidential term because we have so many more big problems to solve now than we did even in 2016. basically, he did a hell of a job and it's important to say i was wrong. >> they have a lot of questions. every one of their questions relates to the first personal experience that they had. >> they all shared very moving stories are personally affected them. now we have a question for you. >> i wish i could have seen them i'm sorry i'm a little late here you do not always control your

schedule perfectly. thank you. >> the first one i have here is, >> my family and i were trapped five days living the nightmare of hurricane helene. >> i am so sorry. >> thank you. i appreciate it. fema was nowhere to be found the first week and has done almost nothing. my question is what will the trump vance administration deal to restructure fema and to rebuild western north carolina. >> yes, ma'am. i am sorry that it happened. i am sorry most importantly that your government did not do its job in response to it. from the western part of north carolina. >> if you grew up in the appalachia part of our country north carolina, pennsylvania, north carolina anywhere else you often feel that region of the

world was really neglected and left behind by the people that should have been done the most to look out for the innocent victims. i hate to say it but i think there would have been less loss of life that the government had responded more quickly. what do we need to do to restructure fema. i actually think that this one is pretty straightforward. you just have to fire the present leadership. [applause] but i think that there is a second part of this. it goes to the rebuilding effort i promise you if we win and i think we will win, by the way. [cheering and applause] i promise you i will never forget where you came from and i will never forget that we have responsibility to help you all rebuild the understanding i will not get the full picture up here the other thing is, when you have a crisis like this, there

are some things that seem not equipped for. i criticized fema for focusing too much on the illegal immigrant problem, not enough on american citizens. let's be honest, this was really a bite and then kamala harris shortcoming when as soon as the rivers started to swell like they did, the 82nd airborne should have been in western north carolina the next minute. [applause] and if you think about all the bureaucracy of the federal government, you have a different agency supposed to do a different things, you need somebody who is in control whose only job is to save as many lives as possible. the fact that it took us six, seven days before that was really possible, i hate to say it, i think that there was a lot of loss of life that would not have otherwise happened. just a lot of human suffering that we've got to do a better job next time. god bless you. thank you. [applause] >> next we have madeleine.

she is from new york. she has a specific question for you regarding her son. >> hello. >> yes, ma'am. >> vice president jd vance. [laughter] >> not quite. >> she is claiming it. [applause] >> you actually heard my story at the rnc. i spoke about my son. >> of course, of course. yes, ma'am. what my question is, what will a trump vance administration deal to strengthen and protect the rights or families of homicide victims legislatively? >> yes, ma'am. first of all, i am sorry that your government failed deal. we will try to make sure that your government does not fail the next person dealing with what you are dealing with. here is the basic issue.

the progressives, i don't think this is true of most democrats, by the way, but the leadership of the democratic party has gotten in their mind that law enforcement is inherently racist i think that that is a real disgrace. it has led us to dismiss a lot of good cops. we do not empower people to go after the truly bad guys. what i find so crazy about all of this is if you look at the statistics, ma'am, it is a very, very small number of people who commit the crimes in our communities. whether they are white black or whatever, there's a very narrow slice of our country that commits chronic violent crime. the thing we have to do is change the laws and most importantly empower law enforcement to go after the baguette, lock them up so they are not hurting more kids like yours. that is fundamentally what you

have to do. i just cannot believe that one half of our political leadership has gotten in their head that if you lock up criminals that is somewhat a bad thing. the core functions of government we could do so much better. part of this is legislative, too we are getting to a point where we have a major law enforcement crisis in our country. a lot of great police officers. a lot of great young and women that don't want to become police officers because they think it is part of the job. we want to fix the pay benefits for local law enforcement because if they get the pay they deserve, most importantly, getting the right people serving as police officers. if you think it is bad now, it will be a lot worse in five

years if we don't get a lot more people coming into law enforcement. thank you, ma'am. >> we have an online question. families are struggling to pay their bills let alone pray for their future. resident 26%. when will my dollar be a dollar again and how fast can we get back to a 2019 normalcy? >> help us out here. >> the best thing we can do is elect donald j trump president of the united states. that is the first and most important thing that we've got to do. i will talk a little bit about what comes after. a small grocery store. the owner had just bought that a couple years prior. coming with daddy on the campaign trail. having a good time out there.

it illustrates how different kids are. i tell the two of them you can get anything you want. the 4-year-old tried to get like a gallon of ice cream. he is like his mama, the 7 -year-old, trying to get me to buy a dozen or two dozen eggs. i am like i met a candy. he is like, no, no, dad, you made the last egg this morning if you don't get more mom will be mad. of course cameras following around because there always are. in the commonwealth of pennsylvania eggs are about 320 a dozen. from about 150 a dozen. that is a huge price increase in three and a half years. i fear it will get worse if we promoted to president. my kids, these guys eat about 14 eggs a day. obviously exaggerating.

making a joke about my kids who do eat a lot. i had some journalists fact check me and say there is no way that a 7-year-old and a 4 -year-old cody 14 eggs a day. it would be like me saying i'm so hungry i could eat a horse and the journalist saying jd in fact ate a normal man's eyes meal, not a horse. the media sometimes in this country is so obsessed with misleading us that they don't actually wrote work, i mean some of these stories of people suffering. i think the most important thing to answer is a lot of us do not fully appreciate how energy prices going to everything else. if you are a construction worker in your building a house but the truck driver who was delivering the lumber to the jobsite is paying 50% more for diesel than

that will be more expensive. if you are grocery store that delivers the groceries or the farmers producing the food rubbing 50% more per energy than that will make all the groceries go up. the most important thing is donald trump says this, drill baby drill. lower the cost of energy. lowering the cost of food. look, the government has want to stop spending trillions upon trillions of dollars that it does not have. when you do that you increase the price of everything. think about it. when you're printing all of this money to cover the debt it becomes more and more worthless all the time. i hate to say it, casting the deciding vote in trillion dollars new spending. putting somebody with common economic sense back in the white house. [applause] >> you see this all the time. when you are in the groceries or

everyone is commenting about how expensive everything is. everyone's like i cannot believe this is gotten so expensive. >> nobody knows like a mom. >> in our family, probably unlike most families i tend to do more the grocery shopping at least until three months ago. something change three months ago. it is shocking how much more expensive some of these things are. a stake compared to three and a half years ago, it is just so much more money. i don't know how any class person can afford and kamala harris economy to live a good life. we have to get back to good common sense here. >> we have another question. taryn will share her questions. i will follow suit. vice president jd vance. >> i am superstitious. you guys are making me nervous

here. >> my stories a public school in our district socially transition my daughter. so my question for you is, there is currently a lawsuit against the valley school district in ventura county california where three of my other minor children still attend. gender affirming surveys. with president trump recently mentioning abolishing the department of education, what specific actions will your administration take to uphold my 14th amendment right to direct the upbringing, care and education of my children? >> wow. i am so sorry this is happened to both of you. i cannot believe that your leadership has failed in this way. i promise that when donald trump and i are back in office you

will have somebody that fights for you and fights for your right as parents. [applause] i want to know so much more about your stories and i know. so much more than we have time for, of course. i just think to take something that is so profound away from our moms and dads is such a violation of every right that exists. the reason we established government is to protect their light -- protect our rights not destroyed. such a difference in this race. you mentioned that education policy. one of the reasons why we have this incredible pressure, a 14 -year-old kid, 12-year-old kid , we know it is hard kids have all kinds of tough things going on when they are teenagers , three teenagers.

i think in the era of social media sometimes we take normal adolescent insecurities and we tell especially our young girls that that is not an insecurity, that is because something is wrong with you. we used to live in a country that recognized, no, there is nothing wrong with you, we just have to teach people to be comfortable with themselves and be comfortable with who they are the fact we have gotten away from that is really profound. ask ourselves, why have we gotten away from it. i think we have to ask ourselves who is getting rich from what we are pushing down this road so parents and children and the answer is there is a billion-dollar industry in cross sex hormones and gender transition and i think we have to go the heart of the money and stop telling these pharmaceutical companies that they can make money by experimenting off of our children. it has to stop and it will stop when donald trump is president. >> you actually answered my next question. we will not do that online

question. >> just on education policy, i want to say that we do not even realize how much of our tax dollars, how much money of the people in this room goes into funding very radical curriculum. we ask how schools have gone away from teaching reading writing and arithmetic and towards the more crazy stuff we are seeing schools teach. the answer is how often we are paying for it. what president trump and i will do is make sure our tax dollars go to educating our children and not to indoctrinating them. stop the flow of money and that's how you stop. thank you. >> thank you. >> going over here to vanessa. vanessa is in florida. >> senator, my family and i migrated to the u.s. legally. >> god bless you. >> from peru. it took us seven years to make it into the country. how can we make the process easier for those that want to

follow the law come into the country legally. >> yes, ma'am. one of the things that i hear, actually, i was in tucson, arizona, a couple of days ago and i was talking about our illegal immigration system and one of them is it is so profoundly unfair to the people that have done it the right way, waited in line, paid the fees, this is one of the reasons why we have to get our hands wrapped around his illegal immigration problem. it is unfair because there are great people that want to come to our country. the question we have to ask is, what is it that we want out of welcoming newcomers into our country? we want people with great values we want people willing to work hard, willing to play by the rules. obviously, you cannot let everybody in that wants to come. you have to have an orderly process. part of what we have seen is we have redirected so many resources away from processing legal immigrants who are doing it the right way to focus on

illegal immigration that has been facilitated by kamala harris. harder than it was maybe 15 or 20 years ago. we have to devote the resources into the broken system we have under kamala harris. border security first make sure we secure the southern border and then we free up a lot of resources to focus on the legal immigration issue in our country thank you. [applause] >> we have a question for you. stephanie from texas. >> as a mother who has lost a son to fentanyl poisoning by deeply understand the crisis and the impact it is having. my question is how do we cut the red tape and move faster to reach every child across the

u.s. with education based prevention programs. we cannot afford to sit idle. while more lives are lost. they have no knowledge of this. >> yes, ma'am. how old was your son? >> he was 19 and 2021. >> i'm sorry. i will say a prayer for him tonight. not nearly the way that you do, but we, of course, have experienced the problems of addiction in my family. we want people to have second chances because, you know, when you are caught in the throes of addiction it is so hard to get out of it. sometimes there is not another chance. from the dads or kids it has to

stop. it is disgraceful that we have a government right now that is facilitating it instead of stopping it. what we can do on prevention. i think that one of these things , you can only do so much with so many dollars. let's say you have curriculum money going into radical gender ideas instead of teaching kids how to say no to drugs, how to resist peer pressure. the warning signs, you probably appreciate this having seen at the some people get addicted the minute they taken opioid. some people can take percocet for three years and never get addicted. i have seen this even with my own friends who had a minor surgery to take one percocet in there like i'm never taking it again because i liked it way too much it did something to me. we have to teach kids to recognize when they are going down that very dark pathway. the second thing, i know friends

from back home, families from back home who were involved in detox. if you think about recovery being a very long road, the first step is very often detox. there is not enough detox facilities in the united states of america right now. we should empower our churches in local community organizations to provide those detoxes because you cannot get into recovery if you don't do the detox early. shutting down the poison coming into our country in the first place and teach our children the red flags in the warning signs of addiction. starting to get down the road of solving this spirit it is an un- speakable human tragedy of what is going on in this country. 100,000 people. many of them in the prime of their lives. i have known so many people who lost their lives to this. i am sure, ma'am, you are asking

yourself the same question. what with the kids have looked like? human tragedy that we are allowing in this country. it has got to stop. president trump and i will fight it, i promise you. >> asking two questions on the stage here. we have stephanie from pennsylvania. not stephanie, sorry. caitlin. >> thank you for the sacrifice. >> i credit my family. >> as an ob/gyn nurse my coworkers and i are experiencing an overwhelming number of illegal immigrant mother seeking and receiving free care between

the volume of patients they are not getting the quality care they gave for and deserve. how would they address this growing problem. >> not that this is the most important issue today but i think it was a few years ago. maybe our nurses would be less overwhelmed if we did not have a federal government firing people for not taking the covid shot a few years ago. [applause] >> whatever year feels, whatever your views i think it was smart to let individual nurses and moms and dads to make these decisions. now force. the answer to your question is if you have 25 million, 20 million, whatever it is in your country, we are compassionate people. we will not let people just

conspire on the streets nor should we. a compassionate name for our own citizens. i believe it is to stop the open border and saw people coming in the first place. if you look in the state of pennsylvania, i believe the last time i checked, the media fact checkers will double check my information here. it is around three hours. you go to the emergency room and you are not getting the care you need because we diverted so many resources from caring for people that ought to be here to focus on people that have no right to be here. we have to recognize that there are sometimes trade-offs in the compassionate thing is to open and allow mexican drug cartels to sex traffic kids into our communities. the compassionate thing is to

secure the border and focus on basic common sense. that is what we have to do. >> thank you. >> we have another question. >> senator vance. >> please. >> our children schools are teaching them that they are victims based on race. family values are being mocked. how will a trumpet vance administration the dress and the public schools without fear or government reprisals. >> another big and important question, obviously do not know the background of all of you entirely, i don't know it a lot of folks in the room, i'm 40 years old. i am a child of the 90s. my wife is 38.

>> so her parents are illegal immigrants from south immigrants we were taught to think about kids as people and not whatever artificial super official skin color they had. i think one because both of us grew up with that bad attitude, we met, we fell in love, we never thought anything of it. anybody ever made when my mom asked what ethnicity and i said she was indian. she said which tribe. i said, you know, slightly off, mom.

she is one of the smartest people i have ever met. she said i get really mad at all the people talking about your biracial children. whether they are white or indian or what their background is. they are just our babies. american babies. that is what matters. [applause] i think one thing that we have to do is do better as leaders. talking about, yes, of course, we have differences and, yes, there are things that happen in america's history. i'm not saying we ignore that but we talk about it in the way of getting to a point where we see each other as americans first and foremost. that is the most important thing and then we also go back to one of the earlier questions. a lot of this crap is not

something that anybody, black, white, latino, anything, would teach their kids. they are learning it from very radical curriculums that are being planted in our schools by money coming from american taxpayers. i think the first thing we have to do it's a fun crt and all of the radical curriculum going into our schools. that is really important. the leadership part of this is really an urgent, too. it got into our head. the differences, i think what real leadership requires now is as americans. if we forget that it will rip our country apart. let's not do that. >> you have a very busy day.

>> we have thousands and thousands a month watching this. >> i ask you to get out there and get involved. everybody gets out there boats it makes our voices heard. the democrats will never be honest. if you want to take your country back, if you want to teach your kids your own values, if you want to save your children from unsafe neighborhoods, if you don't want your kids taught racial,. a lot that can happen in 20 days do you have friends or family that you think would probably vote the right way but you have not gone to the polls yet? maybe you just want to post on

social media hey i saw jd vance and he is not nearly as bad as the media says he has. there are all of these ways that you can get involved. this number of ballots in 2020 that if change, donald trump is the president of the united states. simply they are not happening in this country. ask yourself wake up on november the sixth. you want to say i did everything i think the question is what does that everything mean? talking dear friends, talking to your family, if you have spare time, donate your time with the local party. call people. knock on doors. there is so much we can do to get involved to make sure people get out there and vote. moms are in a very unique situation. i see the polls. right now frankly donald trump

won this election. >> the polls also tell you that we are doing better, president trump and i are doing better with male voters. i think moms are the best ambassador. don't believe the lives you've heard about these guys. vote for what is in your best interest. vote for public safety. lower prices for your family. housing prices affordable for people to live in american homes we have to get back to common sense. it is a way to put common sense out there. you have, guarantee every single person in this room has somebody in their friendship circle. just talk to them and say i think these guys have good heads

on their shoulders. good heads on their shoulders. i think if we do that if we get out there and do that that person power we have let's go into it. god bless you all. thank you so much. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪

>> how about a round of applause for senator jd vance. thank you.this is 25 minutes.

♪ [applause] pres. biden: hello, hello.

>>[crowd chanting] thank you joe! thank you joe! pres. biden: you know, i represented delaware but i would not have been elected without philadelphia and that is the truth. thanks to the sheet metal workers local 19. along with the leaders of members of other labor unions across the country, folks i want to thank my good friend bobby brady. if you are ever in a foxhole, you are looking for help, you want him next to you, man. you've got great leadership in

the state. governor shapiro who i talked to all the time. lieutenant governor, two of the best in the nation. bobby casey from my hometown of scranton, pennsylvania. john fetterman, doing a tremendous job. he does better in short pants than most people do and long pants. you have an incredible mirror -- mayor ian cheryl parker. are we going to reelect bobby casey to the u.s. senate? are we going to elect mcclellan state treasurer? is eugene here? he is in the debate. you better elect him attorney general. you've got to elect my body malcolm -- my body malcolm. most important, are you going to

elect kamala harris president of the united states of america? folks, four years ago i picked her to be my vice president because she is smart and tough. she is a first rate district attorney in california, attorney general and u.s. senator but most of all, i picked her because she has character and integrity. i must admit, she has one endorsement that matters most to me. my son beau biden was attorney general of delaware and i gave him my word before he headed to little rock, he said it -- i met the next generation. he worked with kamala, they worked together to take on the big corporations. he spent the next year in iraq with those awful burn pits. 10 feet deep, incredible, used to incinerate chemicals, tires,

just like 9/11, all of those firemen. smoke thick with poison spread through the air into the lungs of our troops. beau, like many others, was diagnosed with glioblastoma. it was a death sentence. he lasted for a long while. he was attorney general in delaware, she was attorney general in california and he told me, dad, she is an extraordinary leader. she is the next generation. she has batman more to me. -- that and more to me. i know both jobs, what they take and i can tell you kamala harris has been a great vice president and she will be a great president, as well.

it is time to pass the torch to the next generation. i knew who i wanted to replace me. i endorsed kamala. her enthusiasm was off the charts. she beach trump so badly in the debate, he is scared to death to meet her again. tough guy, right? he knows he will lose again. he is a loser. that is a fact. i'm proud of our record the past four years. maybe you saw rachel maddow last night who raised a lot of questions. who is doing a better job in the economy? she said the biden harris economy has left every other rich country in the world in the dust, it left the trump administration and the dust. that wasn't hard to leave him in the dust. i think he lives in the dust. we created more jobs in a single

term but in all of american history. more people working today than ever before. wages are higher than they have ever been before and more people have more -- health insurance. what does trump want to do? use his favorite words, terminate. i'm serious, he means what he says. he wants to terminate the. he has been trying and he failed every time. if he does so 40 million americans is health care. 30 million. 100 million will lose protection because they have pre-existing conditions. he likes to call himself pro-business. we know trump is a failed businessman. he inherited $100 million. and he was bankrupt how many times? i can't keep track. including bankrupting a casino, which is hard to do. how is that possible? i thought the house always won.

he was not only a loser in 2020, he is a loser in everything he does. on my watch businesses of all sizes are surging. a record number of small business applications, 19 million so far since we got elected and every application is an act of hope. remember when trump got elected, he said the stock market would crash if i got elected. i didn't have any stock, but anyway. if he means the stock market crash to record highs, he is right. the highest in american history. it must be irritating to a guy who turns to fox news and sees the biden harris it is the strongest in history. unemployment is in historical lows. the smallest racial wealth gap

in 20 years. the wages have grown faster than inflation for more than a year. inflation is at 2.4%. in fact it is back to pre-pandemic levels and still going down. along with interest rates dropping. send middle-class folks are benefited more than those at the top. the number of workers filing for union representation has doubled since i became president. doubled. you got it, man. >> [crowd chanting] thank you joe! pres. biden: my grandfather said , joey, you are union from belt buckle tissue soul.

he said it a little more colorful than that. our administration is the first in five decades to increase union participation. it is simple. they know, you know, we know wall street didn't build america. the middle class did. that is a fact. i make no apologies for being the most pro-union president in american history. folks, i mean it. under our administration we made the most significant investment in public has -- $15 billion to law enforcement. not a single republican voted for it. as a result violent crime is down to a 50 year low. murder rates are at the lowest ever. the reduction. trump's response, lie after lie. somehow he says the stats are fake. they are making up numbers.

for weeks we negotiated the strongest bipartisan border deal in american history. one of the most conservative senators from oklahoma and a progressive democrat from connecticut worked on it, got it passed, and produced it into congress. what happened? judges, high-tech machinery and the like. trump knew it was a good deal. he got on the phone and started calling republicans saying you can't vote for this because it will help biden. he is a great american, isn't he? trump and the republicans killed the deal but kamala and i took executive action. despite of -- what trump says, there are fewer border crossings today than there were when he left office. we were people coming into this country illegally -- fewer

people coming into this country illegally than the day he left office. kamala will do more for comprehensive reform. that is one of the main things. let's set the record straight, more people are working today in america than any time. more people have health insurance than when trump was president. people earning higher wages. the stock market is higher. violent crime is down. fewer people are crossing the border and trump calls that a hellscape? he talks about america being a failed nation. where is he from? a president calls america a failed nation. that makes me angry. i say america is winning. we are the most powerful, respected nation in the world and every other country would like to be like us. trump says we are losers but the

only loser i know is donald trump. there is more work to be done. kamala and i have plans to bring down the cost of housing, childcare and more. how we solve these challenges will help the next president. every president has to cut their own path. i was loyal to barack obama but cut my own path as president. that is what kamala will do. she will cut her own path. she will further economic growth, making it easier to start businesses, how to make health care more affordable, the border more secure, how to make eldercare more affordable. this grows the economy and cuts the deficit. folks. kamala will take the country in her own direction and that is one of the most important differences. her perspective is fresh and new.

donald trump's perspective is old, failed and thoroughly, totally dishonest. what is his idea for our economy? he says he wants another tax cut, $5 trillion, this is not a joke. $5 trillion tax cut for the wealthy. last time he did $2 trillion tax cut and increased the national debt more than any other president in any single term. by the way, to pay his taxes to the wealthy, he wants to cut social security and medicare. it is not a joke. it is not a joke. in addition to terminating the affordable care act he wants to repeal what we did to lower prescription drug costs, bow down to big pharma again. kamala finally beat big pharma. we gave medicare the power to negotiate.

look. the v.a., seniors with disabilities are now paying $35 per month instead of $400. starting in january, all seniors on medicare will have a total percentage of drug costs capped at $2000 per year no matter how much they have to spend. [applause] pres. biden: cancer drugs. excuse me. we ain't going back. >> [crowd chanting] we are not going back! we are not going back! we are not going back! we are not going back! we are not going back! we are not going back! pres. biden: by the way. our medicare reform not only

saved seniors medicare money. you know how much it saved taxpayers? $160 billion. medicare is paying $35 instead of $400. trump wants to take that away. kamala wants to expand everything. look. trump would get rid of the $369 billion we passed, most in history to deal with climate change. by the way, no climate change, right? i just spent a week from florida to north carolina. it is devastated. you want to know why? because the ocean water is warming. it is increasing the threat of significant weather. how does that make you feel after the last hurricane that ripped through this country? knowing we would cut back, just

-- look. trump wants a new sales tax on goods we import. in significant numbers. 85% of all the sea food we eat is imported. 60% of the fresh fruit, 40% of the vegetables. we import coffee, clothing and much more. according to economist, if the sales tax will pass the average family will have an increase of 400 -- $4000 per year. it is a surprise that we have a guy who can't afford to say the word union wants to get overtime for hard-working folks taken away. he and his allies say they support the middle class. give me a break. this is from the same guy who

calls himself a great protector of women. come on. >> [crowd chanting] fire trump again! pres. biden: this guy has been held liable for $83 million for sexual and defamation. same guy who got rid of roe v. wade, who has 300 major cases waiting for him when he loses. and by the way, 34 felonies. he got the sentence kicked back, but i want to watch that sentence. donald trump is running for himself. he is running to stay out of jail, i think. what does he have left? he has come down to demonizing immigrants, calling them animals. saying they don't have good

genes and poison the blood of the country. it is sick. it is designed to prey on our worst fears. it is un-american. think about it. trump hides all his racism, or used to. now it is out front. he has the same idea on race as the 1930's. ideas on the economy from the 1920's, his ideas on women are from the 19 50's. this is 2024. we can't go back. we have made too much progress. we have to keep moving forward. for all the talk about policy, this is important but the real measure of a president's character. integrity. judgment. because here is what i can tell you. every president is confronted with crises no one saw coming. in that moment, what matters

about a president, does he or she have integrity? a code of honor they live by. what belief system guides their decision? how do they handle pressure? how do they respond when things don't go their way? will they uphold their oath and honor the constitution? with donald trump we know the answer. ask yourself, how did donald trump handle covid? a crisis he saw coming. we know from bob woodward's book that he lacks character. the belief that it wasn't the dangerous thing, and remember how he told us to inject bleach? bless me, father. in the middle of the covid crisis he gave putin, came out recently, he gave vladimir putin covid tests that were deafened -- desperately needed by

americans at home and to putin. trumpcare is more about kissing up to putin than he does about your sons and daughters. we lost more than a million people in covid. think about how many we could have saved if it wasn't for his selfishness. think about the 2020 election trump lost. we defeated him by 7 million votes but he couldn't accept it despite the ruling of more than 60 courts including the supreme court. he threatened the lives of elected officials, sent violent mobs to be u.s. capitol to stop a peaceful transition of power. he sat in the oval office and did nothing for three hours as people were being attacked. lawmakers were forced to hide. when trump saw the mob was looking for mike pence to hang him, you know what his response was? so what?

let me tell you something. you can't be pro-insurrection and pro-america. you can't denounce january 6, you don't have any business being president. and look. trump has gotten worse. he snapped. he's become unhinged. look at his rallies. last night, last night his rally stopped taking questions. because someone got hurt. and guess what? he stood on the stage for 30 minutes and danced. i'm serious. what's wrong with this guy? if trump is elected again he said he'll use the justice department to attack his political enemies. he said he'll fire 500,000 civil

servants and replace them with trump loyalist. he just said he could use the u.s. military to go after u.s. citizens who disagree with him. he said it. he still refuses to accept the results of 2020 and refuses to accept the results of the 2024 election if he loses again. look, folks. every generation faces a moment where democracy has to be defended. this is our moment i believe to my core, when we beat trump in 2020, we saved american democracy. now we have to do it again in 2024. folks, in this election we have to decide who we want, what we want america to be, who is america? kamala will be a president who believes in an america that still stands for the corps proposition stated in this -- started this nation. right here in philly. where the declaration of

independence was signed. where the constitution was written. where we determined the power of the institutions of government are determined by the power of the people. the very idea of america, we are all created equal, deserve to be treated equally. we've never fully lived up to it but unlike trump we're not going to walk away from it. i'll be damned if we walk away from it now. we have a lot of work to do. especially here in pennsylvania. how you go will affect the elections. we have to talk to friends and neighbors and co-workers, we have to beat back the lies with truth and we have to vote. we have to get out the vote. philadelphia are you ready in let's show the world who we are. we are the united states of america. and nothing is beyond our capacity when we work together.

god bless you all and may god protect our troops. thank you. ♪ higher and higher i said your love keeps on lifting higher and higher ♪♪ [crowd chanting "thank you joe"]

♪ your love keeps lifting me -- pres. biden: by the way, i married a philly girl! [applause]

♪ >> c-span is live at the headquarters of the international monetary fund in washington, d.c. just waiting for remarks from the managing director, kristalina georgieva, on the global economy and the i.m.f.'s priorities. she's expected to speak and have a fireside chat with reuters' andrea. expecting this to get under way shortly on c-span. andrea: we are expected to announce kristalina georgieva to

give a curtain speech. i'm andrea from reuters and delighted to be here today to introduce a woman that needs no introduction. particularly not in her own house. ill deit for the audience out there. masai ujiri began her second year -- kristalina georgieva began her second year term at the i.m.f. month. she's the first woman to head the global herseth sandliner and the second woman to run this institution which is celebrating its 80th anniversary this year. the first of many, we won't go through them all. she was the first bulgarian to ever visit fiji. she calls herself an unwavering optimist. took months before the covid-19 pandemic and i remember well how she spoke out at a g20 meeting in riyadh, saudi arabia in february, 2020. about the potential devastating consequences of the disease that was just starting. a scourge that ultimately has claimed over something like

seven million lives to date. at that time in those very early days, other finance officials were down playing the risks. we know what happened. and the i.m.f. played a crate cal role in shaping the world's response. since the pandemic, the i.m.f. has provided about $1 trillion in liquidity and finance for its 190 members, soon-to-be 191. she brings a different perspective to this job of running the i.m.f. than her predecessors. that reflects her experience. she grew up in pwaoupbist bulgaria behind the iron curtain and knew what it meant to experience the depravations of that system. she exspao*erpbsed firsthand the impact of str-bg taourl reforms -- of structural reforms. she wanted to study journalism was accepted into -- but that was difficult to get into. but eventually was accepted into bulgaria's institute of economics.

and quickly embraced the discipline as a useful way to understand and interpret our complicated world. it was like serendipity. she studied french but went to britain. later -- learning there about market economies. writing the first textbook on microeconomics in bulgaria. then working at the world bank. then at the european commission. returning to the world bank to be its c.e.o. and since 2019, october 1, she's been the managing director here. just across the street. just across the street. from the world bank. under her leadership, i think many of you in the room were here when she greeted people here, under her leadership the i.m.f. has adopt add first ever climate strategy sustained its first term -- first long-term lending instrument, the resilience and sustainability

trust, and last year the i.m.f. increased its quota shares to member countries by 50% on an equitable proportion at basis. it add add third sub-saharan african chair to the i.m.f. board. and as you know, she's raised her voice for gender equality. one of the first events that she did upon taking over was a very large and well attended panel on gender. she's called for greater attention to climate change. despite the responsibility she holds still manages to spend time with her grandchildren, grand taught earn grandson. i'm honored to introduce her now to present a curtain raiser for next week's annual meeting for i.m.f. and the world bank. please welcome, kristalina. [applause] kristalina: thank you.

thank you, andrea. very kind words. good choice to sit down with the audience because when i speak we will have a chance to see visually some of the points i make and you are very well seated to do so. five years ago in this very hall i delivered my first curtain raiser as head of the i.m.f. at that time my main concern was sin kron niesed -- sin kron nien growth. only months late it paled in comparison with the sudden shock of the pandemic, followed by other dramatic events, the tragic wars in ukraine and the

middle east, the cost of living crisis, and further fracturing of the global economy. next week, the world's finance ministers and central bank governors will converge here to reflect on where we are, where we are headed, and what to do about it. i would like to offer you a preview of what this conversation is likely to be. tpeurbgs, we will cherish the good news. rightly so, because we haven't had much of it lately. the big tkpwhraoebl inflation -- inflation wave -- the big global inflation wave is in retreat. a combination of resolute monetary policy action, easing supply chain constraints, and moderating food and energy prices is guiding us back in the

direction of price stability. and this has been done without tipping the global economy into recession and large-scale job losses. something we saw during the pandemic, and after past inflation episodes, and which many feared we would see again. but we didn't. both in u.s. and your area labor markets we see taking these two examples, we see cooling in an orderly manner, and let's pause and recognize this is a big achievement. where did this resilience come from? answer, from strong policy and institutional foundations built over time and from international

policy corporation as countries learn to act fast and act together. we are benefiting from central bank independencecy in advanced economies in many emerging markets, we are benefiting from years of reforms in banking. from progress made in building fiscal institutions. and progress made in capacity development worldwide. but this fight the good -- despite the good news, don't expect any victory parties next week. for at least three reasons. one, inflation rates may be falling but the higher price level that we all feel in our wallets is here to stay.

families are hurting. people are angry. advanced economies saw inflation rates at once in a generation highs. and that memory is not going to be erased rapidly. so did many emerging market economies. look at how bad the situation was for low-income countries. at the country level and at the level of individuals inflation always hits the poor the hardest. true. even worse, we are in a difficult geopolitical environment. we are all very worried about the expanding contpwhreubgt in the middle east -- conflict in the middle east and potential to destabilize regional economies and global oil and gas markets.

alongside the prolonged wars in ukraine and wars elsewhere, it's heartbreaking. and it is harming confidence in the world economy. and on top of it all, this is happening at the time when our forecasts point to an unforgiving combination of low growth and high bet. a difficult future. let's take a closer look. median term growth is forecast to be lackluster. not sharply lower than prepandemic, but far from good enough. not enough to eradicate world poverty, nor to create the number of jobs we require, nor

to generate the tax revenues that governments need to service the heavy debt loads while attending to vast investment needs, including for the green transition. this picture is made more troubling by high and rising public debt. way higher than before the pandemic. even after the brief but significant fall in debt to g.d.p. as inflation lifted tphoplal g.d.p. -- nominal g.d.p. do please notice the shaded area on this chart. what it shows is that in severe but plausible adverse scenario, that could climb some 20

percentage points of g.d.p. above our baseline. what does it mean for fiscal space? to answer this question let's look at the share of government revenue consumed by interest payments. this is where high debt, high interest rates, and low growth come together. because it is growth that generates the revenue governments need to function and invest. as that increases, fiscal space contracts. disproportionately more in low-income countries. not all debt burdens are made equal. and fiscal space keeps shrinking. just look at the frightening

evolution of the interest to revenue ratio over time. we can immediately see how the tough spending choices have become tougher with with higher debt payments hanging on our heads. schools or climate. digital connectivity or roads and bridges. this is what it comes down to. making this tough choices. and to make matters worse, we are living deeply troubled times. the peace event from the end of the cold war that andrea talked about, i experienced the colder side of it, is increasingly at risk. in a world of more wars and more insecurity, defense expenditures

may well keep rising while egg budgets fall further behind the growing needs of developing countries. not only is development assistance too small, but major players driven by national security concerns are increasingly resorting to industrial policy and protectionism. creating one trade restriction after another. going forward trade will not be the same engine of growth as before. it is the fracturing i warned of back in 2019, right from this very place. except it is worse. it is like pouring cold water on already luke warm world economy.

what is my message today? my message today we can do better as the president of the world bank across the street often says, forecastses are not destiny. there is plenty we can and must do to lift our growth potential, reduce that, and build a more resilient world economy. let me start with actions domestically. actions at home. governments must work to reduce that and reveal buffers for the next shock, which will surely come and make come sooner than we expect. budgets need to be consolidated. credibly. yet gradually in most countries.

this will involve difficult choices on how to raise revenues and make spending more efficient while also making sure that policy actions are well explained to earn the trust of the people. here is the problem, though. fiscal restraints, let me ask you -- have you seen fiscal restraint ever popular? yeah, we are going to have fiscal restrain. it is not popular, as a new paper by i.m.f. staff shows, it is only getting harder. so this is what we learned. across a wide sample of countries political discourse increasingly favors fiscal expansion. even the traditionally fiscally conservative political parties are developing a taste for borrow to spend. fiscal reforms are not easy, but

they are necessary. and they can enhance opportunity and inclusion. and we know from experiencing countries they actually can be done with political will they can be done. when we look at the medium term where is the key? the key's growth to deliver jobs, tax revenues, fiscal space, and that sustainability. very simple. the solution to low growth, high bet is high growth. soy when i go any place tkpweu what i hear is this aspiration, can we get our growth potential up? can we create more opportunities? the question is how. answer, we know it. focus on reforms. and we recognize there is no time to waste. first area of reforms, make job

markets work for people. we confront a world of deeply uneven demography. surging young populations in someplaces. aging societies elsewhere. economic migration can help. but only up to a point. given the anxieties in many countries. so, too, could supportive steps to help get more women into the workforce. but the most critical task is reforms to enhance skill sets and match the right people with the right jobs. second area, mobilized capital. there is abundance of it globally. plenty of money, but oven not in the right places or right types

of investments. just think of all the money from all corners of the globe poured into liquid but less productive assets in a few measured financial centers. putting savings to work for maximum economic benefit requires policymakers to focus on eliminating barriers such as weak investment environments, shallow capital markets, and financial sector oversight must not only ensure stability and resilience, but also encourage phraoudent -- prudent risk taking and value creation. by the way a message also for us at the front. third area, enhanced productivity. this is what yields more output per unit of input, and there are many ways to raise it from improving governments and institutions to cutting red

tape, to harnessing the power of artificial intelligence. more and better spending on education and r&d. among advanced economies, those that lead on innovation show what works. venture capital industries, ecosystems that bring not only financing but knowledge, advice, and professional networks, screening new ideas, identifying winners, feeding them from birth to graduation. and these lessons can be learned by everyone. what we have seen over the last eight years, tragically, is that the pace of reform has been slowing since the global financial crisis as this content has risen -- as discontent has risen. progress is possible. we have a new study that shows that resistance to reforms is oven driven by beliefs and

misperceptions about the reforms thisselves, as well as the -- themselves, as well as the distributional effects of these reforms. how can we best develop them? well, two way dialogue with the public. with measures to mitigate the impact of those who risk losing out. we have learn how much this matters over the last years. and as policymakers pursue reforms at home, they also need to look outward. there is so much countries can do together as members of the integrated economic community. each benefiting from its own comparative advantage. each benefiting from the forces of technology, trade, and capital mobility that have delivered an incredible degree of interconnectedness.

yet we still live in a mistpr*uls fragmented world where national security has reason to the top of the list of concerns for many countries, has risen for many understandable and good reasons. this has happened before. but it never happened at the time of such economic co-dependency. my argument is that we must not allow this reality to become an excuse to do nothing to prevent further fracturing of the global economy. quite the opposite. my appeal during this annual meetings will be, let's work together in an enlightened way to lift our collective prospects. let us not take the global tensions as given, but rather resolve to work to lower the geopolitical temperature and

attend to the task that can only be tackled together. trade, which has lowered price, improved quality, created jobs. and is still showing remarkable resilience in the face of new barriers often flowing around them via third countries. but we need to recognize redirection can only take us that far and we cannot assume it will continue indefinitely. so we have to get on the page of protecting what works well in our trade system. second, and this one is truly existential, climate. countries that contribute the least are the most negatively impacted. unexpected global warming moving

actually faster than we thought. you read every book and it says, oops, we were wrong, it is worse. glaciers melting, icecap crumbling, average weather events have telegraphed a frightening message from the future. we know what we must do. create fiscal space for the green transition, eliminate fossil fuel subsidies, get capital to where it is most needed. and three, artificial intelligence. our single best shot at higher productivity. if it is managed well, it has the potential to lift world growth by up to 0.8 percentage points. with that alone we are likely to not only reach our prepandemic higher average growth, but even potentially exceed it.

yet what we need is, we need regulatory and ethical kouls that are global. why global? a.i. is borderless. it's already on smart phones everywhere. i have a question for you, how many of you have chatgpt on your phones? raise your hand. how many of you don't have it? ok. there is some way to go. but it is not going away. this technology is not going away. those of you who have not raised your hands. go ahead, catch up. bottom line is that there are areas where we need to work together. sometimes we need to relearn to work together. and we at the i.m.f., we are born from this basic idea, pull resources, everybody's better off. we have a role to play. andrea has already mentioned in

my first term it was anything but boring. it was a really hard time. and we had done a lot. we have injected historically high liquidity, you mentioned this number, more important than the money, we kept our membership together so they can synchronize policy action at the time of very high uncertainty. and now we are in the first days of my second term we deliver, again. our executive board in full consensus, not a single abstention, approved important reforms that reinforce our strong financial position and directly benefit the membership. reducing charges and surcharges on our regular lending, putting in place a comprehensive package to secure our concessional

lending capacity to support low-income countries. i see quite a number of people who have worked on that. bernard, jayla. it was a very heavy lift, but it got done. andrea mentioned we are going to have a third board member for sub-saharan africa. i can disclose that this new chair will be held by ko coat desroeur -- by cote d' ivorie. what they do is give us strength to continue to deliver high value added to a membership that engages not out of charity but self-interest. and it is this value that brought our membership to grow. now we are welcoming very warmly the principality of

liechtenstein as our could 191st member. as our 191st member. so when i go back to the founding in the dark days of 1944 to today, what we have established is is a tradition of adapting to the changing world around us. and today you have my word this will continue. we will stand with our members, always looking for the most impactful way to serve. by the time i complete my second term at the hellp of the i.m.f., will i have led it for almost the whole of this decade. if i'm granted one wish, it would simply be this, let this decade be remembered not as one

where we allowed conflicts to get in the way of existential tasks, storing up vast costs and misery for those who would follow. let it be remembered as a time when we rose above our differences for the good of all. for our mutual prosperity. and ultimately for our survival. i say, we can do better. let there be peace on earth, and let corporation flourish. we can do better. thank you. [applause]

andrea: thank you so much. now we get a chance to ask questions which is my favorite part. thank you so much for the overview i did want to sort of go into the big picture here. clearly the global economy is facing tremendous uncertainty. you mentioned rising tensions in the middle east where we have seen just dreadful, horrific pictures in recent days and over the past year. there's russia's ongoing war in ukraine. rising protectionism. the chart was -- seeing the trade restrictions was shocking i have to say. seeing it visualized like that. we are also seeing major devastating weather events.

and with increasing frequency. of course, we are here in the united states, we are in an election, many things in just a few week. s. as you prepared for the meeting next week, how worried are you about the global economy and the head winds we face? it seems the challenges are daunting and the risks on the downside. kristalina: this is a very interesting situation we find ourselves to be. because it combines better than expected performance of the world economy and risks to the downside. so when we are assess ising the situation -- assessing the situation what i want to emphasize is that incredible resilience we have demonstrated, andrea, over the last years and especially in this last year

when we were fighting inflation, it does come from years and years and years of investing in strong institutions and also investing in the world having charges of communication, ability to engage. and this investment i don't think is gone. it actually -- we'll see it next week continuing. my expectation is that we will see governors and ministers coming here leaving outside their differences. the line i would use is leave your trade war out. leave your cold war out. if god forbid you have a hot war, leave it out. and if you have a proxy war, leave it out. and engage on the important

policy choices that i just outlined that are very pressing for us. it's a mixed picture when you look at the world just in the couple days we'll come with the growth projections. what we see is -- compared to historical performance, china slowing down, india is accelerating. some other parts of asia are accelerating. u.s. is doing quite well. europe can do better. so in that picture i think the issue with that would dominate is are we going to right on the opportunities we are presented with by technology and by the instruments of collaboration we have built or we will retreat to a worse position.

you heard me, i think, each and every one of us in whatever we do, institution, individually, we have a very important responsibility. i hope the media would take it as well. to work for doing better. and in that sense i'm not super pessimistic because if you look at the trajectory of the world economy, yeah, we can do better, but we can also do much worse. so we will see how the conversation goes. my expectation is people will leave from here somewhat uplifted, somewhat more scared, hopefully scared to get them into high gear to act. we will do our part to bring get more scared but, hey, there are

things you can do. go back home, do them. andrea: that brings me to another question which is you outlined ways policy makers can bolster lackluster growth forecast by improving their situation whether that's through raising taxes, reducing and boosting revenues, reducing debt, enhancing productivity. as your paper shows doing that is hard, really hard to get through. what's your advise when you meet with the -- advice when you meet with the ministers from countries that need to implement those very often painful reforms? kristalina: two words, buckle up. i lifted a country that has gone through tremendous structural transformation. it is painful but then you reap the benefits from it. when you look around the world, there are shining examples. look at brazil. brazil started in 2017 reforms

of the labor market, then they went into tax reforms. value-added tax reforms. what we see from the data is that growth in brazil is boosted by somewhere between 0.3, 0.5%. that is significant. or you look at the performance of india over the years. remarkable. india was a country in the 90's where you can cannot make a step forward because of red tape. everything needs to be permitted. permits require -- they breed corruption. the country doesn't move. look at india today. it is a bright spot on the world. so the question really is how to generate that determination. then go to work. i would not -- do i not want

anybody to -- i do not want anybody to walk oust here thinking it is doom and gloom. it is difficult. but there are actions that have been taken by others, you can do it as well. andrea: ok. i have to say that it's difficult not to be pessimistic or fatalistic about the low growth, high debt conundrum. it seems like it's getting worse. given the high levels of uncertainty, all the risks and geopolitical environment, where do you see opportunities for hope? you mentioned a.i. how significant of a factor can that be? can we shift the momentum there on this debt issue? kristalina: there are three things that need to be done. in countries that are in situation that is not sustainable, we know what needs to be done. that needs to be restructured.

i am encouraged to see speeding up the restructural process, the global sovereign at round table is helping to get consensus on some of the policy issues. ethiopia, if you look at the speed with which ethiopia moved to restructuring vis-a-vis the first country, chad, it is night and day. the second is thing that needs to be done on that is to get governments to think about their fiscal consolidation over time. we worry of too fast tightening because you have to find this balance between -- are you still supporting growth in the economy but you are getting fiscal consolidation in place. we actually very actively and loudly tell countries, yes,

consolidate credibly, but do it over time so you don't suffocate your growth potential. and three, there are *r there are things that can help -- there are things that can help economies to grow. look at the enormous impact of the green transition and digital transformation. it is cutting up parts of the world in way that is just amazing -- powering up parts of the world in a way that's aphaeugz. when i think about the -- my concern around what is going on, the distance between those who do well and those who don't, unfortunately, is growing. what we used to be in a world of convergence, now we are in a world of divergence. pay attention not only to yourself, pay attention to others. this is where this whole

conversation about trade restrictions, industrial policy can play. you throw cold water on the economies of others, guess what? other economies shrinking the pie of which would get smaller. a bit more rational design of policies. this is where the fun comes what we can do is show what are the costs, what are the benefits. in the most transparent way for policymakers to make their mind. again, andrea, we can say, o god, it's horrible. let's go home and lie in bed and cover our heads and go to sleep. or we can say, this is a tremendous challenge. let's figure it out. andrea: when you -- during your first term you pioneered some work that was important in terms

of addressing the needs. you mentioned the r.s.t. and also a global -- helped set up the global round table to sort of help particularly china as the largest creditor, but others. also work through the issues involved with debt restructuring. what's your next initiative? where do you see opportunities, or do you -- kristalina: luckily focus at the fronts right now are three things. number one, make sure that this soft that this soft landing we talk about actually happens. a fleet of soon-to-be are forgiven. that work with helping countries with monetary policy

understanding what needs to be done. but then move the attention to the fiscal side. and help countries in this fiscal consolidation that many of them have to do, do it wisely. do it pro-growth, not growth suffocating. the second one is if you come to the fund almost every day, there is a discussion around growth. structure reforms or growth. how do you lift up productivity? what we can learn from one country to the other? for us yes we are about monetary policy, stability, but let's remember our articles say for growth and employment. and we are very keen to see that ability of countries to grow enhanced by the support of the fund. and three, we are in a world where the changes technologically are so rapid

that we risk new shocks to come for which we have a blind spot. just think about technology affecting financial systems. cross border payments, the way investments are managed. and that area of risk that is financial stability risk for us, for b.i.s., central manx, hugely important. when you ask me what's next for us, i'll tell you, i want the fund to be financially very strong to anchor our members and lean forward on issues that matter to them. one thing i'm extremely proud we are financially strong, andrea. the fund for years and years and years and years and years had a

target for precautionary balances. this is what buffers us against risk in our portfolio. we couldn't reach this target until april this year. for the first time i can say we walk our own talk. we tell countries build buffers, here we are our buffer is really strong. that's how -- i'm not thinking of big initiatives, i'm thinking about doing the police -- business of our membership with agility, speed, and of course quality of the work we do. andrea: terrific. in advance of this event we asked for some questions. we have got four people that are going to ask questions that were selected. let's start with you, fred. get the microphones to you. >> madam manageling director,

thank you for that really remarkable presentation. i want to fred from the atlantic council. i would like to grill down on global trade. your global trade alert, your quote trade will not be the same engine of growth as before. you said that in 2019. you are saying it's worse. my question is is, how much worse is it getting? and you talk about we can do better. wonder if you can get more specific? a lot of countries see it in their self-interest whether it's chinese over capacity exports, whether it's tariffs of the e.u. or u.s., self-interest sometimes overcomes what you are arguing for which is global trade coming together. where do we start? what changes this trajectory? kristalina: first observation i would like to make, fred, is

that trade has slowed down, but has not gone into reverse. when you look at the reason for it, it is primarily this very deep interdependence that has been built over decades. what is important to recognize is that it is now mostly advanced economies that are leading the way on restrictions. in the last 18 months there have been 4,000 industrial policy measures that impact the free flow of trade. 4,000. 60% of them come from advanced economies. can can we work -- can we work rationally to determine where this is genuinely grounded in

national security concerns, or in market failures? yes. the person sitting right next to you, her team just published a guidance on industrial policy. the job for us -- it defines when it is justified, when it is not, how do we measure costs and benefits, and how we build this in our regular surveillance work so we can help countries make decisions in the future that they are grounded in sound analysis. this is our job. and then comes the reform of the w.t.o. it is not going very fast, but it is also not dead. how can we more momentum be

built practically to make the w.h.o. more acceptable for members? and three, i put actually a lot of hope on that. what we see as regional corporation. you have the world cooling off a little bit on global cooperation. but at the same time we see gulf corporation council, countries that are linked by interests, for example some of the commodity producers, we have seen africa more interest in building africa wide free trade arrangements. how can can we use different pathways to build better prospects for growth on the basis of trade continuing to function although it's not going to be the same engine of growth

as it used to be. you the atlantic council, you have also role to play, because you do a lot of this analysis of comparative performance. i think we have to be -- one thing i would advise against is don't take it for granted that oh, well, this is how it is. make the analysis show the arguments, better days will come. but these are the three things. one is make sure people understand the implications of measures they take. especially industrial policy measures. we can help. make sure that obstacles to the functioning of the global tradecies is tell related to w.t.o. are removed. and look at the other drivers of collaboration and trade especially in regional settings.

andrea: let me follow-up on fred's question. we'll go to a few more questions. it occurs to me that when you talk about inflation coming down and prices staying up, it's one of the big drivers of the discontent. isn't the same thing sort of true with trade restrictions that once they are implemented they are really hard to dismantle? going back is always harder. kristalina: one of the main messages of this industrial policy piece i mentioned it says, make it temporary, build an exit door. don't make it so can you not leave it. you're right, occasionally this is the case. since you mentioned inflation, why are we concerned about trade restrictions and protectionism? actually who pays for it? who pays for tariffs? the businesses and the consumers. mostly in the country that will

has created the tariffs. and also what we see is that there is three out of four -- if this is to happen, in three out of four cases there will be retaliation. somebody's going to get hurt because of this. i think our job is to show that you make benefits here but they may be costs there that outweigh this benefits. and help policymakers think through this. andrea: it's not a panacea. kristalina: no. it is not. there is no silver bullet in very short supply. andrea: terrific. let's take a question from homey from brookings. >> great to see you. >> thank you so much for the overview.

you talked about countries worrying about getting growth going again. many countries worry about the impact of comply mat on their growth -- comply mat on their growth and -- climate on their growth. they are worried about build up of debt. i just wanted to ask how do you view how do you balancing -- view balancing those kind of risks? kristalina: we did a fairly thorough analysis of how to finance mitigation and one obvious conclusion was who cannot borrow your way through this problem.

you have to think about and this is why i'm so much emphasizing the purpose of growth. and unless you do that, unless you do that you are in a catch 22. you do not have physical space. and climate shocks are more damaging to you. what agitates me honestly is that there is so much we know about the way to lift up productivity and growth. do it. our staff said that countries,

15% of the structural measures that are in place here delivering higher productivity for the united states, they can generate just about a percentage point stronger growth in the economy. in a way i would have said, the answer to your question is engage with the public, create more appetite to guarantee our survival. >> let's go next to rajkumar.

>> thank you so much, great to see you. i appreciate the optimistic message. the fragile second state strategy of the imf. you talked about where the low income countries are. half of them are at or near the debt crisis. what does that mean for bilateral going down, that the debt situation is worse. i know we talk about a soft landing, what is the model for them? kristalina: we are working on a three-pronged approach as we

engage with countries that face great difficulties. one is to help them own of the government another policy front, so they advance, they get better. the second one is to mobilize more assistance from others. we take our role to use problems so we can catalyze more funding for these countries and we recognize that the ultimate difficulty comes from conflicts. what we do is we work with regional structures, we work with other organizations to

bring forward solutions to solve these problems. we are not the peace building organizations. we are zeroing in on sudan and countries that need more attention. i must say it is very troubling that you would have a conflict like the one in sudan and it is not one of the top list of stories. we do what we can to stabilize countries and in some cases there is progress. like in somalia. somalia was seen as difficult, somalia is doing better.

but unfortunately the fragile country situation has not gotten in totality better. we give people bonus points because we want to work with those that need our help the most. we work with the bank, we work with regional development banks to support these countries. you are right, they do require all the attention the world can spare. >> let me follow up on that and then we will take one more question and wrap it up. when you are talking about preparing for the next shock, is it conceivable that the next shock is coming from an area of fragility? generally, the conventional wisdom is that these countries

are very relatively small economies that don't impact the global economy, but how do you assess that? kristalina: first, let me say this. i did not quite answer your question, my thinking is to teach us and help our members to think because the unthinkable is going to happen. we are building this muscle so we anticipate and then we respond quickly and we lean forward to target the most vulnerable. could that be the unthinkable that comes from a small country? of course this is possible. a small country developing terrorist capabilities in a

world where drones can go anywhere, yes, a small country can cause big trouble, yes. so, how do you counter that? you make it so countries have opportunities. as many of you know, i was the crisis commissioner. this is what helped me to be a good managing director because this is what i was wired to do. andrea: let's going now to jordan schwartz, executive vice president, thank you so much, jordan. >> thank you so much.

a question about cooperation since that was the call for engagement at the end of your speech. i think over the course of your tenure at the fund, we have watched the institution evolved further from focused traditionally to one evermore concerned with the impact of finance, whether it is climate change or productivity or vulnerability and equity in some of the points you have raised. it brings it closer to the multilateral banks and ourselves closer to the fund. i was wondering if you could give us a sense of where you see collaboration going across the international financial institution? kristalina: it is very important that institutions do what they do best. for us as the fund, what we are

best at is to take the vital signs of each and every economy and identify areas of risks and opportunities for these economies in particular with the risks associated with balance payments. as the world becomes more complex and interconnected, we cannot separate those needs from policy choices countries make. we have to think about those. and there we find it very useful to partner with organizations that have deeper knowledge. i will give you one example. we have the resilience of sustainability trust to create

fiscal space for climate policies, adaptation, mediation. we benefit tremendously from your work, your work of the world bank in understanding what are the key parameters for the climate performance. so then we can draw. for all of us in the financial institutions, if we are not seen as delivering, the attitudes of society, it is a matter of every single day shown that it is

collective assistance. andrea: thank you, everyone. kristalina: and thanks, andrea. [applause] andrea: thank you. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2024] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]

>> good evening everyone. welcome to the tv 2024 senatorial debate featuring candidates and democrat actor christina christiansen republican senator kevin cramer. moderating with me this evening. >> thank you. we share common interests and talk radio from bismarck he is from fargo. i'm a former mayor of bismarck joel is a former legislator but we're broadcasting live from legacy high school in bismarck, north dakota tonight. this evening will be alternating as we ask questions of the candidates but we have prepared

the questions ourselves and flip the coin to decide who goes first. both for moderators and for candidates. it is recommended hold its applause until the completion of a candidates answer. so that the candidate does not forfeit their time to the applause. candidates will be given two minutes for answers. one minute for follow-up answers or a return to the previous topic candidate please be mindful of the clock. and understand if you watch the monday night steve and i are not afraid to tell you you are done. [laughter] >> we will be taking the television break near the bottom of the hour. we begin this evening with opening statements of three minutes from each of the candidates beginning with doctor katina christiansen. >> thank you so much. thank you joel, both of you for moderate this evening. i want to thank them and their team for making this happen. i want to thank senator cramer

and debates with me. while he may not agree on all of our policy issues, we both agree it is important for north dakota and to hear us. it's vital to a healthy democracy. it is important to vote for the person, not the party. i am katrina christiansen. i am proof of the american dream. my dad and his brother lost the farm. my dad struggled to find work in the 80s and it was hard because i grew up in poverty. i remember the first year of college, my dad was dropping me off i did not have a car but he gave me 20 bucks and said good luck kiddo. i lived off of 20 bucks for two weeks. now some of you listening are here tonight may have lived this more experienced. and you know what it took to get here.

because of federal programs that my opponent might demonize tonight. i graduated at the top of my class. i've built a better life for my family. i have made jamestown my home where i live with my husband max and our three kids who go to public school and to the dairy queen as often as possible. i am an agricultural engineer. i have three patents. so tonight you will hear from somebody who voted against lowering prescription drug prices for seniors. you're going to hear from someone who voted against the bipartisan border bill protecting our communities. you are going to hear from a career politician who is failed to get a farm bill passed. because what he does is identify problems, assign blame and walks away from the hard work resolving issues. you're also going to hear from someone who thanks north dakota

can do better? who is talk to those north dakota and spent has to rush in their meds. who has talked to many north dakota ends that are frustrated that we have not secured our border. i want safer communities. you are going to talk to somebody who knows how to solve problems. and actually knows how to do the job in the hard work it takes to get things done. thank you so much and i hope to earn your vote in november. you for lending your talents to this night. thank you derek, thank you for your remarkable service you provide. so many out there in rural north dakota as much is right here in the big city of bismarck and fargo. not just for stepping up to the plate is very few have done what we've done right now there's a

reason for that it's not that easy. it's tough work. i was thinking and i appreciate you mentioning the debate. i was thinking about my career and some of us have done this quite a bit. all of the debates i was thinking about all the people i've ran against a been an incumbent and i've been a challenger. i don't think i have ever had an opponent that accepted fewer than three debates. that says something about the culture of our states. he says something about this right here. people have asked me why would you, the incumbent why would you give your opponent a third debate? i don't like giving my opponent third debate i give you a third debate. it's hard to hide we know each other. i look forward to this katrina is right you see a difference yes somebody has got some experience. yes, somebody who's been there a while.

this would be my second term i'm seeking in the united states senate. the senate is a place where experience matters. or having a gavel matters. and by the way it arty doesn't matter. the idea that somehow you can both work but not vote for a party not going let chuck schumer be the majority leader if kristine becomes senator. that's a nice idea nice ideal is just not practical. i talk about my upbringing i'm way back 400 years three of my ancestors came on the mayflower i'm in tenth grade grandson of william bradford the governor of plymouth colony. the person who offered and signed the mayflower compact. for generations in my sixth grade grandfather was one of the first people to die in the revolutionary war and bunker hill. a family member still has his plane he made.

he was a craftsman. he carved the scriptures and in this he said this complaint was made by me. a son of liberty. my father was in 11th grade educator. he was a lineman. my mom graduated high school and pumped gas at the co-op. they worked overtime for what the time was thought and a half. but they did whatever it took. >> time, senator. >> thank you. >> my first question goes to doctor christiansen. doctor christiansen, what makes you qualified to be one of 100 people in this nation to make decisions? >> thank you. i really appreciate that question. it is so refreshing to hear

something not starting off with ukraine. i get asked this a lot. the thing that makes me a really great candidate for north dakota as i am forward thinking. i understand how to tackle problems. i understand the importance of reaching out to stakeholders. that means reaching across the aisle. i am not afraid to go get the republican votes and the independent votes. and that's the same thing i'm going to do in the u.s. senate. i told the story about growing up in poverty. to try to convey to you what it took to get to this point to graduated as valedictorian. should be high scholars at the university of nebraska, lincoln beat departmental senior of the year end biological systems engineering. those are no small feat. i am not doing this for me. i'm doing this for all of the people i have met across the state of north dakota.

i have gone to every county. i have talked to people. those conversations have left marks on me. i was at my not a couple weeks ago and there is a guy there who talks about how he could not for his insulin. my opponent voted against capping and some prices at $45 heat loss 75% of his vision. he cannot drive. we cannot have career politicians that recycle talking points representing u.s. senate. we need to be luring prescription drug prices. aside from securing the border, lowering prescription drug prices is the most important thing on people's minds. we have some his voted to repeal the affordable care act to but we have somebody who voted against capping prescription drug prices for seniors. voted against capping insulin at $35 a vial. we need somebody who understands the problems of north dakota. click senator cramer do you have

a rebuttal? >> first of all i want to agree with the upfront answer. the beauty of our self governed system is the only qualification to serve the people that are voting as you get more votes than your opponent. it's up to the people that we work for. that is the qualification. that is what gets you there. but what makes you a good senator? personal experience does matter by the way. it doesn't matter. not sure about scholarly accomplishments. i have seen plenty of scholars not do so wellin congress. i prefer workers. i would raise this point about reaching across the aisle and point i don't do that. the reality is, i do it a lot. the reality is i'm the only republican nights it centered in senate inthe last congress thatd a bipartisan action award reaching across the aisle. i don't introduce legislation very rarely doesn't have a democratic cosponsor. by grew with a long list of them

to say the least. also implied i am the guy the first talking point the democrat party is accused your opponent using republican talking points. they got immersed today by jamestown newspaper precisely because i do not use talking points. because i sometimes warrant my staff in advance about to be blunt. >> next question is for senator kevin cramer. the economy is on the major issues during this presidential cycle. of course the sentence and the house and the makeup of that will have a large play in dictating the finances of the economy. vice president kamala harris. give us a take on your working relationship no matter who wins and what that looks like assist

in the economy. >> the president has a lot to do with legislation. unified government has the ability to pass legislation with the 50 it went votes in the senate rather than the 60. that's a circumstance i hope for but one thing is sure the job acts expires next year. everyone's taxes go up unless we do something about it. inflation is arty 20 plus% aggregate over the last four years under the hair/biden administration. a lot of it has to do with tax on energy. when you cause energy prices to go up there now at 45%. you drive up the price of everything everything you move, you go you produce everything you manufacture everything goes up. we have to restore solid energy

policy. places like north dakota to feed a hungry world. to feel a growing economy. we do it better than anybody we do cleaner than anybody. my opponents have advocated for limiting fossil fuels. stop investing fossil fuels and invest only in renewable energy. that is nonsense low cost abundant and clean energy. north dakota oil, gas, coal, wind it's all cleaned for cleaner than anywhere else in the world. it's a lower-cost and more available than any place in the world too. >> doctor christiansen same question. >> i thought about this coming in tonight. pointing out many of the talking points you will hear tonight for my opponent are the ones he is six years ago. you are here tonight you're probably wondering why you have not accomplish a lot.

that's become 13017th congress he cut the third worst attendance rates. how could he be voting for north dakota family if he is not there? okay? what about the 118 congress? he has the eight worst attendance. he has missed more than 60 votes. i think it was a couple of weeks ago or maybe just last week. we have the terrible fires out west. just terrible. i'm sorry for the family members who lost their loved ones. but, we are going to have to come back to congress in the new year and address those disasters. my opponent voted against a jail disaster funding in 2021 that would have given we can't send someone to washington that does not show up

or they cannot do the work for us if they are not there. in the 1117th the eighth worst in the 118th. his expanse has allowed him to forget who he is and who he represents. it's time to send somebody who has worked in industry and understands the importance of working hard. click senator cramer at one minute rebuttal if you choose. >> several things. the 117 congress is most productive congress as we passed unanimously under the eye am the ranking member. provided lots more money for north dakota cities, counties, rural communities, farmers. the type of infrastructure that brings down inflation and brings important resources. it's also the year i led the charge with a lot of upset republicans to pass the committee i'm a ranking member.

that provides more than 50% more money to north dakota counties, cities, communities, townships. 50% more for infrastructure moving goods and services including farm products. when my mom died i was fortunate enough to be able to get there before she died and spent some time with her and of course plan for arrangements and lead the family through the grieving time. i spent the week at the mayo clinic with my son was having surgery at the time. it's also when i had my surgery. it was productive nonetheless. >> the next question goes to senator cramer. your opponents accuse you of doing nothing. that you passed a number of bills. you and i both know there's a difference a drink on a bill and being the prime sponsor of the bill.

being the origin of the bill itself. so you could easily, you've been in the majority, you've been in the minority you can easily find yourself having to introduce legislation that kamala harris would sign. and so i'm going to ask you, have you passed any legislation that its genesis came from you? >> lots and lots of it. >> it came from north dakota governor to use resources during the pandemic when the oil patch was a bleeding people and bleeding money to hire more workers. to re- claim oil that was my prime cosponsor was rule on a democrat from new mexico.

that was my bill. there's lots of those but i introduce the legislation that created the states force of nine states of america. brand-new military force. they thought you've got to be out of your mind. fifteen votes to 14 that opposed it. and now there's no way he thanks we were crazy. expansion of the export import. the largest extension in its history. by the way, but had this idea that there's independence record there's no such thing. but the idea is you could somehow keep score on how many bills you introduce that passes the bill that you introduced is

following. is only a handful of meals that get past it. that is why you've got to be ready. there's a whole bunch of them have benefited the north coast airmen and soldiers, national guard. probably dozens of them i could point to one at a time for they are all part of the national defense authorization act. >> doctor christiansen, amid one minute rebuttal. >> i think if kevin had a voting record to run on, we would already know it. the reality is one of the largest industries in north dakota, agriculture, does not have time but the low price right now soybeans are way under being profitable. we are not talking about the facts that we have a bunch of

career politicians in washington d.c. and i believe senator cramer said it best. only a few bills get past. every five years we ask our congress to pass the farm bill. to make sure our farmers have the right reference prices. they make sure we are improving crop insurance like making sure they can enroll in dual arc programs. >> time? the next question for doctor christiansen, i want to save the theme of agriculture. of course the farm bill for north dakota. one of the pieces of the farm bill is snap. there's a lot of producers out there looking at the protection for an operation. first of all would you be in favor or not in favor of separating the snap program from

the farm bill to address agriculture? would your vision of farm bill be? >> steve, i really appreciate that question. senator cramer and i have had the opportunity to talk about the farm bill and are two other debates. one of the debates he brings up as a problem is a snap benefit. i will be honest. i find it offensive coming from u.s. senator and someone as a christian you would vilify poor people. i grew up in poverty. i remember being at the economy market in nebraska or my dad asked to get credit to buy groceries. and he was denied. i remember it later on him saying he would never own money for food because of food stamps. one out of six households in north dakota uses food stamps.

one out of six. 49% of those work. they are the working poor. they are the people we should be protecting. 65% of the households have children. 30% have elderly disabled adults. this is a serious program. the reason we have it is we value everyone. we want people to be fed and survive. that's the best we can do. when we vilify these snap program i get upset i think that's apparent right now. that is not a u.s. senator should do. the farm belt and the snap program goat together. that brings urban it makes sure we take care of our most vulnerable people.

>> thank you doctor christiansen. and it sent on their own 2 feet. >> first, absolutely not. you would lose the farm bill if you did that. you lose the safety net for vulnerable people if you did that. but, she said something very interesting just so you know this is not insignificant problem to the farmer. duke dilutes the amount to go to the farmer. think that farm is a rooftop garden by the way. fuel on fire which drove the price of everything out. she is that as a reason to bring more money to snap and the

conservation called climate title. thus to limit the amount owing to the farmer. you've got to rebalance those things party matters. a violent uprising and's authority for government. that is insurrection. and so the question becomes, do you believe donald trump played a role in the january 6 insurrection and the beating of those law enforcement officers on the steps of the capitol i think donald trump on that day gave a speech those two ramped up. it was nancy pelosi who turned down donald trump generosity of

national guard or active military. he calls her, he warned her. it is well documented. these people are upset. i think you better get more security there. she turned her down, why did she turn it down? i have no idea. i could speculate but i do not know what's in our heart or mind. that fact to seeing what was going on, knowing how upset people were and then to deny the decline in health and leading our police officers who i love, so my best friends in washington. i love marcus like a brother because he is a brother he hugs me every single day at the door of the united states capitol this big tall beautiful and says were in it together we are in it together from her military is unconscionable to me. i blame her as much as i blame anybody. it's a handful of people that

were violent not the one strolling through the capitol after it became easy but the people who were violent and shouldnot be taken off the hook. it's not somebody else's fault they did with a did. >> the question was do you believe donald trump played a role in generally six insurrection yesterday? i think his role was minimal converted nancy pelosi. >> rebuttal? >> talking points is on the career politicians do. but recycling dangerous lives is really un-american. i do not know how many of you in this audience or at home were all watching what happened in generally 26th. i remember being terrified that we would lose our democracy. i hold president trump accountable and those who went along with him and not certifying the election results

of the free and fair election of our president. i have never been more terrified of my life. i think it is so sad you have changed so much as a career politician you would repeat dangerous lives and not reflect history. that is the important thing here. we cannot recycle dangerous lives for. >> same talking points over and over and over again. >> was at a rebuttal for mule of a bottle back. >> by the way, i was there. i was there. she watched on tv and was was t, i was there. i voted to certify. i was there. watching on tv and being terrified, who are we kidding? who are we kidding? this is serious not some drama because it's a nice stage for because she blame nancy pelosi? i blame people who did it because she blame nancy pelosi?

senator, then the question becomes did donald trump have it within his power to release the national guard to put it down? wesley ordered his own military declined as well. >> i am a rule follower and he was interrupting me. i have just got to say, i said my piece i think it is really important that when you are a politician and representing people that need you to get things done, that you tell the truth. he missed that boat in 2022 where were you? you did not vote for the ranchers, okay. he does not have a problem misrepresenting the truth because he is a career politician. that is a great quote from president roosevelt at the end of his life became so disenchanted with politics he said good people to go into politics become crooks and very

good people become impractical. i will let you all decide who the career politician has become repeating this dangerous lives. >> are going to take a little break. when we come back steve will be asked the next question. thank you for tv. ♪ >> welcome back to north dakota senatorial debate between senator kevin cramer doctor christina christiansen. our next question is for doctor christiansen. i want to talk about border security. there's a lot of different pieces that go into border security and north dakota was a part of a building the wall that was started and not completed. but what we are seeing as illegal immigration, as discussions about the wall, about security, it all comes under trafficking. whether or not it's narcotics

trafficking whether it is labor trafficking or whether or not it is human trafficking. what is your stance what would you do in the u.s. senate to help secure the border and alleviate some of these issues? >> thank you. such an important question right now in our lives. there is a bipartisan border bill that was introduced this spring. it gave money to the border patrol to add new agents, over 1000 to help fuel the human trafficking issue. it also had the money to install 100 conventional detectors. as many in the bill to make sure we could process to actually endorse the bill. it did not pass.

the resources to her border patrol. to including our children. that's an up and everything it's so important we make sure we address that. we are talking about this because it did not get past. clear politician he identifies a problem, he assigns blame and walked away from the hard work of resolving the issue he saw on the bill. it's important we send somebody to d.c. this going to go to the senate majority leader and ask for the bipartisan border bill which has buy-in from both sides. truly bipartisan not the big awards senator cramer talks about but real bipartisanship

fought hard over four months to reintroduce the bill and i would vote yes on that so we can install the fentanyl detectors. make sure communities are safe. and he would voted for joe biden is responsible at ludacris and defies all logic and historical facts. a career politician is a talking point here is what that builds it in addition to some pretty decent things. customs and border protection did not need a thousand more or 100,000 or one more when donald trump was present and took care of it the way he supposed to by enforcing the existing laws. by the way with the democrats took over the senate and the white house, not only did they stop building wall that was already paid for including allowed it by north dakota

company. they sold the wall for pennies on the dollar that bill gave lots of money to ngos and sanctuary city. the biggest problem with the border is not the fentanyl are not stopping the fentanyl at the border. were not stopping at the border. sanctuary cities and ngos to protect criminals that's what they do. sanctuaries if you are the mayor at bismarck a bunch of criminals that commit crimes but can skip sanctuary you cannot touch them. that is the policy of guys. that's the draw. and by the way it regard to expediting asylum, what that is

is expediting illegalities. legal to faster process. i don't know about you, i am not for that. i am tired of kids dying from fentanyl. >> doctor christiansen, rebuttal? >> i think, senator cramer's argument that maybe he is implying senator lankford a republican from oklahoma is a closeted democrat. which is really hard to believe. he assigns blame and identified problems. he walked away from protecting north dakota communities. i am not going to do that. he brings up sanctuary cities a lot. i control the map after the debate. in the cities are not here north dakota but what is here in north dakota is fentanyl. those overdose deaths are really serious. we had a pragmatic a bipartisan solution that career politicians torpedoed for the sake of

running our problem but that is not why we send people to d.c. to introduce the bill and i'm going to vote yes. they're not going to bring the bill up. i assure you. i'm pretty sure president trump is going to fix the problem with the authority he has before that joe biden's head for four years that kamala harris has had as a group, they had a person in charge of the southern border. i'm pretty sure without another bill you do not need another bill part you need somebody who cares about it. you need somebody a backs up customs and border protection who backs up our police. who backs up our community the idea that's because north dakota's are too smart for that kind of silliness. that's why there's not one north dakota. blue states have sanctuaries they are criminals imagine that. think about that for a minute. century from the cops if you are

a criminal. we'll never turn you over to the federal police. just get here fast. get your fence halted north dakota and montana but don't hang out there, they will arrest you. not a good idea but one good follow-up yes or no only. doctor christiansen do you believe a path forward the illegal immigrants are here for citizenship? >> and the dreamers? >> for the illegal immigrants already here that across the border do you believe there's a path for citizenship for them? >> just to be clear, for the dreamers and guests. this people who came over here with their parents who did not have a choice. i absolutely think we should have a pathway. cook senator cramer yes or no? >> donald trump offered that up to the democrats and they declined it. they denied it. but i would support the dreamers as well not as citizenship but legal status not for anybody fre sensed. >> thank you, joel? work senator cramer, do you believe a woman should have a

right to decisions about her own body? >> she should have a right to decisions about her own body. she should have limited rights about decisions as it relates to another body that is in her. depending especially on how old the body is. i believe in life at conception. life deserves protection which is why i introduced legislation, bipartisan strongly supported by the left to make sure the father's of unborn children have the same accountability as a father's unborn children. i believe a row the way it was a bad legislation the bill returning as a gift it's up to states from now on to pick that up state-by-state. same question. quick so i believe a woman has a right to control the health care that she needs. i think since the overturning of roe, what we have seen from

states across the country is sad. there's a lot of poorly written by humans that have not reduced the number of abortion. but we have seen is there are women who are denied care and are in need of emergency healthcare. we are talking about life or death situations because of poorly written band. we do not need the government in the doctor's office. now my opponent wants to whitewash these stories. it does not fit into a historic line that's not the reality of women's healthcare. anya cook was in florida. she had three term membrane rupture. she went to florida hospital was told to go home was denied care and almost died. jackie stanton, had a mueller pregnancy that was cancerous in oklahoma she was told that if she did not get treatment, which

was an abortion, she would bleed out and die. she was told to wait in the parking lot until she flatlined her had a heart attack. and there was a woman from idaho who started bleeding at 20 weeks. had to be life flighted to utah and all she could think about was living for her to living children. these women are real. they have people who want them to live healthy lives. and what to be able to have children when they want them. this is the reality would limit women need to be in control of the healthcare. we cannot whitewash the reality in the states where there are bands but we just can't. >> one minute you don't have to use it all for a rebuttal. [laughter] >> let me just say, first about healthcare and abortion are hard for me too put together in the first place.

she's three major healthcare denial but i do not know a place and certainly north dakota is not one of those places. i am surprised utah would take a woman from idaho quite honestly. the reality is saving the life of the mother is obvious. i don't know anybody that does not use that or agree that should be an exception for i am with her one 100% on those things. but last night i was in fargo and event with about 600 people who love life. who care for women for free. that's at the women's care center. a big fundraiser. they take care of the woman and the child. as a result of that this year they've already saved 426 babies. i am for saving babies. i think that ought to be our passion. we can argue and debate with the policy ought to be what the point of life but i'm for saving babies. >> same point, rebuttal.

>> i think what senator cramer misses when he focuses on the pro life narrative is the very real experiences that people have in the states with fan. interest is not happen here yet. we have comments on ponce rightt now, a six week van that does not have exceptions for rape and incest and north dakota. we do not allow that. is not really a pro life position that we are going to make somebody have eight rapists child? the son of a pro-life position point we should allow people to seek the healthcare they need when they need it without the interference of the government. that is it. it is that simple. >> thank you. next question is for senator cramer. i want to talk a little bit about global policy. with what is going on the state

of the world right now and unrest and many different areas. primarily ukraine and what is going on in israel. what is your stance with supporting or not supporting either one of those countries? >> i believed america safe when the world is safe in the world's safest when america strong. when america leads with strength and lack unlike the last four years, the world goes into chaos i supported every aid package for ukraine not just because it's good for the ukrainians but it's good for us. the cost of preventing a war coming to the united states is a lot less than fighting a war. or a nato or should it break out. this things did not happen with stronger leadership. with god to israel we have a moral obligation, a biblical obligation to back the people of israel. they have a right to be a jewish state plain and simple.

the very idea we now have a president calling on our very best friend may be in the world to tell him how to fight a war how to go after the people trying to eliminate the entire country is ludicrous to me. he succumbs to strength. yes i'm a ronald reagan republican. peace comes through strength we are taking 40 or 50 or break from modernizing our military which is i'm on the armed services committee. that's why senator kellyanne i started the modernization caucus a democrat from arizona. it's why i believe it got to invest where we have not invested for 40 years because america safe in the world is safe for the world is safe when america strong. right now we act week we project terrible weakness but we do back israel that's our war already. rivet north dakota and now coming up on a year of being in the hospital who was taken down

by a houthi drone. took down his helicopter his wife was also an army helicopter pilot for their grieving wondering where in the world to we go wrong that these iranians could take us out the small drone? >> doctor christiansen same question. >> no, i don't think we should be taken for impulsive advice from a senate member who supported and fund raise off of withholding the promotion of 500 military members. that really jeopardized our military strength and readiness for the global complications we are seeing across the globe. in fact, i was in my knots, like i said before. there is a young woman who came in and asked the panel of candidates about what we would do to support enlisted members? senator cramer talks about sitting on the armed forces

committee this young woman was concerned because so many of the younger enlisted men did not have the money to buy food. and so they had food stamps. i'm so when we talk about military readiness, that means promoting people who have served our country honorably. that means making sure that our military members have the resources to provide for themselves and their families. i am standing up on stage with somebody who has that ability and has not exercised it. he's not willing to work across the aisle and get things done like pass the bipartisan portobello. ukraine is serious. it is serious because putin is a bloodthirsty dictator and he of is not stopped in ukraine, he is going to roll through all of the other eastern european

countries. it's important we help ukraine win because that puts america first. otherwise putin wins, china wins, taiwan wins. let's send somebody to washington d.c. that understands the priorities and is not there to play games with our service members. >> it a crime or rebuttal? >> lex asked roy about specific legislation i passed. when we had about one piece about the national defense authorization act, two widows of the air force base for two people suffering with mental illness went to get help. both of them were denied that help buds because the people that were there to help them do not have the right certification. i offered up an amendment and told by the bureaucracy don't do it it's going be very controversial. they're bound to a study. i thought about that. i thought i'm going to take my chances for they introduce that

amendment life and the committee. it passed unanimously. there is nobody. you can say a lot of things if you find one general with one star that would back what she said about me i will be very, very, very surprised by this cell phone number of several if you would like them. >> one quick follow-up 30 seconds or less. doctor stinson fighting a proxy war against the israelis, would you be in support of further sanctions against some of those proxies are going after iran directly? >> i think it is really important that when the united states considers going to war with an adversary that we look at the last 20 years and what did we learn? what did we learn from going into iraq? forever wars don't work. and so it's probably better for us to resolve through

negotiation. we just stop ethically the fighting in the middle east. we need a cease-fire and then start the very hard work of resolving the issues of her. >> were to seconds or less same question. >> said it will be responsible for slighting a war for iran who is become a member of the axis of evil has become empowered because joe biden lifted the sanctions that allowed to go from $4 billion to $2.4 billion or $240 billion of foreign reserves is nuts. the idea someone would negotiate their way out with this that's we had a world war one of the sump american ships too. that's without in world war ii until came to pearl harbor but that's without in the war on terror until he took on the twin towers. america's safest when the world is safe in the world is safe when america strong. appeasing the ayatollah will not de-escalate.

you have been in a position of power as a united states senator many times spoke to the national media. one of things you talked about at length was the biden family and hunter biden who in light of your strong comments about hunter biden and in light of now what is happened with your family, do you regret it? >> i've not said a lot about hunter biden. they meet he hasn't pretty open about the fact i shied away, stayed away from. having been through it i have been there not just recently with my family but throughout my family. particularly adult children it a little bit different when the president of the united states or the vice president of the united state is aiding and abetting an enterprise where his influence and even his presence is for sale. that's a big problem.

in fact just the opposite been very clear with national media. i've empathy for them. i pray for them. quentin's father to love each other forever just like i love my children forever no matter what. i told my kids and i was able isaac and ian were four and five i adopt them i told of nothing you can ever do in life could stop me from loving i told my son that several times recently. quick senator christiansen response or rebuttal if you choose? >> you are premature there, doctor christiansen. i just think it's really important to it love it you are family and keep them close as possible. i really hope that kramer and his family can heal from the incident. and they deal that like they need to deal with it. the president who is simply mutual the judicial work its way

out and we hope for the best they can have a loving long relationship. i think it's really important that we are supportive of all sorts of families. i don't think it's worth discriminating. i don't think it was worth a bashing prince important to recognize we are all human. we all live here. it's best to love each other while we are alive brickwork .quick senator it's time for statements. >> held her closing statements? >> two minutes per thank you all again. thank you again doctor christiansen. you earned it for doing this. this has been invaluable hopefully to the people who are making the decisions that they have not already. i do worry about the people washington have made the decision and are looking for entertainment. totally they've got that as well. the very least was a great testament of the american experience.

i'm always amazed some people say something about the person they voted for that they never polite to themselves in this beautiful nation of ours. with that we hear a lot of class warfare going on these days. i'm going to tell you a reject t that as well. growing up as poor as we did i never felt like we were poor. i remember holding up the collector several times not me by them. they never complain they made us believe we could be whatever we wanted to be never had an idea it was possible the seventh of 11th grade rural electric lineman from a little town and north dakota can become a united states senator. but they can and so could a professor, soak it in any number of people. that's the greatness of our system for it if you are thank you all for participating in

this. i will try the top 1% are 46% of taxes in the country. i love them all. the bottom 50% are paying about 2.3% of the taxes in this country, i love them all we ought to try to get them closer together but, everybody's doing their part everett we live in the greatest land in the world. we should not apologize for but we should not be pessimistic about it. i love god, i love my family per thank you for being here. thank you again katrina for participating in for stepping up. and let's have fun for the next two and half weeks. >> doctor christiansen two minutes. >> i just really appreciate the audience coming out tonight. enjoyed our dialogue. like i said before it's vital for healthy democracy. for people to understand how we would work differently and d.c. thank you again senator kramer and truly for three debates that awesome. i appreciate the moderators. then really original questions i appreciate that so much so thank

you. i want to acknowledge my friends and my family who have been so supportive this past year. i am grateful for your love and your support. you all can tell my opponent has been doing this for long time. he has had a career politicians answer for every question. but he did not have solutions for our problems. so i say to the 8000 ranchers abandoned by our senator cramer, i will be there for you. i want to get the origin labeling the 146,000 people on social security in the state of north dakota, i'm going to protect social security and career politicians. to the 38000 veterans in the state of north dakota i will always have your back. into the police officers and the healthcare workers, and the

laborers, and everyone in between i am going to work for you. i'm not going to work for special interest. it is time. it is time we get beyond blaming back to doing. it is time to send kevin home. thank you so much. [applause] [applause] [inaudible] >> thank you very much for being cognizant of our time restraints this evening. >> i am told this it concludes our debate special thanks to the candidates for both participating. for steve for moderating with me. for tv airing this debate live. thanks are volunteers who assisted with registration, clock management and crowd control. to a television audience for watching tonight and those

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tonight live conversation, not a debate. >> she's a one-woman economic wrecking ball. and spotlight spotlight is this trying to bring civility back to the election cycle. democrats andy kim and republican curtis deaton are the candidates are vying to fill the seat of the convicted former senior senator bob menendez. we are going to take our campaign and message as a political outsider. we sit down to hear why they think they deserve your vote on november 5.

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conversations with the candidates for the senate. we are calling it a conversation because this is not a traditional debate. there'll be no time for responses and the goals to talk about the issues impacting you are an exchange of ideas by david and i believe the discussion and direct the questions the candidate. we welcome our guest democrat andy kim and republican curtis bashaw. welcome to you both and thanks for doing this. we will start off by having you talk about the economy. we will start with you mr. bashaw. everyone agrees that affordability is what's on the top of the mind for voters today. what do you think is driving this crisis and what specifically can you do from your seat in the senate? >> affordability is a huge issue. i run a small business that has grown to 1000 employees. we know our utilities are more expensive than we know the food that we buy to serve in a restaurant is more expensive and

in all 21 counties in this state i have heard that issue loud and clear from new jerseyans. to me, the way we fix that is to cut back on our government spending. we had to do with the cobra crisis and we kept doubling down by doing more and more expensive bills that have caused inflation. i believe the blessed with the curate is to spend more money -- isn't to spend more money or to price caps and it isn't to try to mandate for subsidies but to unshackle our businesses, let them grow trust our business people, grow the economy and make it bigger. >> what you think is driving this issue or this crisis? >> like we want to make sure we are growing our economy but we want to grow for everybody. right now the corporations in the world are growing exponentially and we are seeing

a lot of small as this is really struggling to add aitkins made in seeing a lot of people not invested in over half of our country is not invested in the stock market. we have a huge racial wealth gap in new jersey. it affects the black communities nul communities and latino communities. that's why took steps to lower prescription drug costs one of my biggest legislative wins. out-of-pocket cost for seniors when it comes to their prescription drugs. capping insulin caused a $35 a month to do that for all americans. all the things we did child tax credit cuts child poverty in half. these are proven tools that the republicans in congress got rid of all these different efforts that we are trying to help people with.

these are some of the things return to fix. sankey seemed to be ready to unleash business and have regulation what's the difference between you two on what role government can play in stimulating the economy are making things more affordable? >> look we live in an america that's a free enterprise country. we trust our citizens here and our businesses and that's how we created this american dream. i don't think we can spend our way to prosperity. i don't think we can tax our way to physical health and i don't think that we can regulate our way to innovation and growth. new jersey is one of the most expensive states for taxes and one of the most unaffordable state, one of the most highly regulated states. ironically new jersey is 49th and what we get back from the federal government out all the other states so i don't believe these old 20th century habits of price caps of subsidies

excess spending, those are failed policies socialist policies that we tried to force the hand of the market. we need to let her businesses thrive. i lean against too much intervention but i understand that we need to take care and make sure that everybody has a shot. >> one of the things we have found in our reporting with pastor particularly is a lot of people we talked to about affordability .2 of affordable housing as a driver of this crisis. the estimate is that there needs to be about 200,000 new units of affordable housing built in the state. water barriers to meeting that goal and what kind of federal legislative remedy is there? >> i think barriers currently are inflation and making houses

unaffordable for people and high interest rates that we need to make sure we control inflation. i don't think that's by spending another trillion dollars as a way to solve it. if people think we solve inflation with the inflation reduction act i don't think anybody believes that. now are spending trillions of dollars. it was a policy that was a partyline vote. >> how do you remedy affordable housing? >> we need to get inflation in check and we need to make sure that interest rates come come down and two we need to make sure there is permitting reform. it takes ages to get permits particularly in new jersey but you can't just go out and build a house. it can take years to get a permit so that's the second thing and thirdly we need to make sure we have a trained workforce. this is where i think the trade and the trade schools making sure that young people understand there's a living to be made in the trades and we need more workforce.

>> i think this is an example where there's a difference here. for me i look at the bipartisan infrastructure law that we did, something that's putting billions of dollars back into new jersey and helping to rebuild our roads, bridges tunnels and our public transit but that will lead into the ability for us to build more. we need a decade of building to offset the steep challenges that we face right now. >> how does the senator make something like that happen? mr. bashaw said he opposes the inflation reduction act. that's a perfect example of where government is investing in private sector in the market that creating an unbelievable response in surging anatiere -- energy innovation in the country. we can send signals to the market and then devise building.

the market is not clearly doing this on its own. we need to make sure we are building diverse types of housing. not just luxury housing. government can play a role in incentivizing that. >> let's look at some numbers living on from affordable housing. we are up for by 1% and inflation is at 2.8 and 250,000 new jobs created according to the last report and 1,043,000. how is this not a good economy? >> look because leading indicators move but i think talking to new jersey voters in 21 counties everyone realizes how much more expensive things are than four years ago. i mean what has happened in inflation over the last four years is not solved when you look at what groceries cost four years ago to what they cost today and what the fuel and heating oil and all those things cost. this is a burden for new jersey

families. the solution isn't i don't think to spend another trillion dollars but i don't thank you can force it by saying we are just going to cap prices and give away things here. i know i have 180 of our employees where affordability is a very important think that these don't get solved in the halls of washington and think tanks but i think they get solved by unshackling our business people and making sure they can get permits to do the building, making sure interest rates are low and we are not living beyond our means of the country. i think political outsiders and business people will make a difference in these issues. we can't have more of the same. hasn't worked. >> it used to be could get a blue-collar job and earn a living raise a family in the current minimum wage in new jersey is 15 bucks, about half that on the national level.

you are an employer curtis. do you paid your folks, are you a union shop at your place? >> we are not. we have had hotels in atlantic city but they are very few that make minimum wage of our 1000 employees. we understand the affordability issue and there's a supply and demand issue with labor. we need workers and we pay well. >> i think this is an example of the differences here. i too think we need to make sure we are investing in our unions and their workers. mr. bashaw could increase the federal men on wage from $7.25 an hour. i disagree about. when you talk about something that would pay what, 16 or $17,000 a year no one in the country can live off of that.

>> the m.i.t. living wage calculator says in new jersey and this is almost like the first case scenario a family of four, to a parents both working, two kids it's not much of a gotcha question because most people probably don't know this. guess what the wood -- living wage should be according to m.i.t. living wage calculator? >> in new jersey or the country? >> in new jersey. >> i would say 65 or 70,000. in terms of per hour. >> oh per hour. living wage i would say it's probably around $8.20. >> i would say probably 19 to 21. >> $30.19 according to this calculator. are those jobs out there for people without a college education? >> we are struggling right now. we have seen a challenge and that's why we need to address

the fundamental inequality in our country right now. we have billionaires and huge amounts of poverty and challenges here. >> let me tell you what i'm doing but i created 1100 jobs. i have hundreds of people that make way more than $30 an hour because we started in enterprise that worked. we started with 20 employees. now we have 1000. i make payroll every two weeks. i have given them health insurance for 35 years. i understand. >> how do other employers get that $30.19? >> we paid minimum wage even before we race before we raised it in jersey. we have been ahead of the curve because that's where the market is my experience. >> i have about 30 seconds for each of you. the deductions or something that

both of you assume want to have restored, right? so the brookings institute called it a massive tax cut for the rich saying to 1% are the ones who benefit. in 30 seconds what other tax deduction for removal would you support that would work for the other 99%? >> anybody -- i need 30 seconds. anyone who pays taxes in new jersey, income, all the taxes in new jersey are deductible up to $10,000 so anyone who makes more than $10,000 would get a benefit if that cap was removed. i will say this when we are 49th and what we get back from the federal government and third and fourth in what we contribute there's a big gap. new jersey is a donor state selecting getting that money back to our state and it's important.

>> i would start facing the salt isn't the case when it comes to our state. we have people here who are struggling with this but we should keep the standard deduction double what it was before and i think that was a good move. the effort to give 20% offered to small businesses in an effort to raise the state tax on $30 million? what we saw in terms of the taxes and dropping the taxes for wealthy americans of the biggest corporations those are things we can do. >> this weekend a couple of surveys came out kaiser family foundation being one of them has said for young female voters apportion not, not the economy abortion is a top issue and you both say you are pro-choice. what specifically does it mean to you when you believe in a

woman's right to choose and is there point in a pregnancy where you believe there should be a restriction on having an abortion? i believe the woman has the right to choose her medical care and i do think we need a federal law to codify that. that should be worked on in a bipartisan way and i think that process will bring us to reasonable commonsense common sense reforms. when we had rowe the number of weeks where the camera and -- determined based on viability from years ago and there will be that conversation that happens. i think new jersey has a pretty good position going all the way into the night. as we work on this to find common ground as a country which i think is long overdue. we've been fighting about my entire lifetime do we need to roll up our sleeves and we will

find common ground. i believe most people believe parental consent is an important right for a family with minor kids to have a life-altering procedure done. i think when people get down to business which is why i want to go to d.c. to work. >> let me ask you what would you like to see in a federal bill that would codify its? >> i think we need to codify a woman's right to choose in all 50 states. i think a reasonable restriction would be that there is a viability determination based on factors and the conversation. >> you aren't willing to say at what point? >> i'm not a doctor. >> it's a process we need to go through to come to common ground. >> let me ask you this then lets say you get elected to the

senate the federal abortion bill comes up for a vote. would you be willing to say that you would break from your party to vote in favor of that bill? >> when my party is right i will defend them and support them and when my party is not right i will stand up to them. i am curtis bashaw and i'm running for the senate seat to run new jersey. i'm my own person and i don't agree if my husband and everything so i'm going to be that person i think the people that know me understand that. >> was the difference if you are pro-choice, do you support abortion without any restrictions? do you support on-demand abortion without restriction? >> the number one difference between us is that i believe that abortion is constitutionally protected. my opponent mr. bashaw does not end a woman's right to choose

and make decisions about her own body or fundamental about what it means that freedom in this country and we shouldn't have government telling us what we can do with our own bodies. that's the fundamental difference and that's why i take a position to mr. bashaw saying he's pro-choice. when you talk about that you are talking about the fundamental freedoms about the constitution. right now we do not have a choice right now. both states are fully banning abortion and six of them are banning this including no exception for rape and the other question about where does this go? what i will just say this is something that a woman can decide. what we have seen when there are restrictions that have been put into place they've been weaponized in the states. alabama you can go to jail for

99 years if you perform an abortion. they are going after dockers and dockers are worried about doing anything even when it comes to miscarriages and other issues out there. they are worried about legal repercussions so mr. bashaw said he thinks there's a commonsense approach that we can come together as a country on this issue. i'm not sure what you have seen or how the debate has gone on in our country right now but it's very toxic and it's very. i do not see how you going to the u.s. senate is going to single-handedly change everything that we see. you have a party -- let me finish. >> you are going to support a senate majority as a republican and look at the other people there. your party is on the extreme side of it and you endorsed all time to put three justices on that overturn roe v. go wade. >> how do you balance the

supreme court's decision in? >> i understand what happened in dobbs. that doesn't take away the fact that i am pro-choice. dobbs with separation of powers they didn't find it specifically a constitution in the process would be to go to the legislative branch and be codified. to your question about what i'm going to do down there and how it can single-handedly try i'm trying because i think i can make a difference but the fact is you've been there for six years and you voted 100% with your party. you wouldn't understand how i like you to stand up for my because you never set up for mine. that's a difference between us. i'm a political outsider and i'm not behold and to anyone in. i've had a great career provide a businessman that is created jobs for the economy and i'm my own person. i'm going to go down there and

defend a woman's right to choose because i believe that in the same way a plea but have a right to be married. i will talk about our freedoms all day long and i'm happy to move to that conversation. >> do you want to respond? >> i will respond by saying look god says constitution does not afford the right to abortion and he agrees with adam i just disagree. i will say look everyone in the state has seen me stand up to my own party. in the senate race i got her a very contentious primary standing up to some of the most powerful political leaders in the state in my own party. i'm willing to stand up for leaders my own party. i vote a fight to codify a woman's reproductive rights. think i care you say the position you have on abortion and affording reproductive rights to women is extreme and i

take issue to that. so let me ask you both this question talking about the legislative branch branch. with either of you support suspending the filibuster to help restore a national right to abortion and how would you get it done through legislation otherwise? >> i think the whole point of america was to have checks and balances and separation of powers which forced us to have conversations and find common ground. we don't want to back and forthwith a majority of one and that's what the senate is the place where there were longer-term and staggered terms and the filibuster is a tool for that. i think they should be verbal. i don't think it should be a filibuster but i think that's a tool to support 60 vote so why not? that forces people to talk to

each other. >> allotted votes don't even come up to the floor for a vote because of needing to have that supermajority. but you are saying you don't see room for it. >> i think the filibuster is a filibuster. so make it -year-old but i get nervous about this only don't get what we want, freedom is a little and our structure sets up a process to make sure we don't whip back and forth so much. it's hard to amend our congress -- our constitution. >> where do you stand on the filibuster and either funding it on this issue for reforming at? >> i think reforms are needed. the house of representative i

helped pass the women's health reduction act only to see it fall short in the senate. we passed universal background checks. something that 94% of americans favor and be passive in the house and it failed in the senate. the john lewis voting rights act a critical effort to protect our right to vote in our democracy failed on delivering the senate. we just see weaponization of this. i understand mr. bashaw what you are bashaw what you're saying but we also see the weaponization of that over the last few years and the last 10 or 20 years. it got to the point where we are able to make a decision. just let us vote. >> if you see abortion cares health care should the federal government be on the hook to pay for it through medicaid? >> i think that they could. we passed legislation that said

people require medicaid. think mifepristone known as the abortion pill is used in 63% of abortions in the os. should that remain on the market? >> i don't think people should -- government should tell us the medicines that can be prescribed by our dockers. >> absolutely but the problem is when the dobbs decision happen now women are not able to decide on medications and so my different things. >> when you two were last together curtis bashaw you said there were 900,000 illegal aliens, your terminology in the state and their presence here is making people feel unsafe. should people really feel unsafe

and why and where did that number of 900,000 come from? >> i will try to answer all the questions but the number came from a report from the new jersey assembly and i know they are other reports that were four or 500,000 so let's say somewhere around half a million illegal people living in new jersey. i will say this having driven 75,000 miles on my car is january 15 to all 21 counties and talking to so many of our citizens, people are concerned. this and affordability are the two issues. i don't understand and i want to know congressman kim do you think the border policy has worked for new jersey? we have all these people and i don't think the citizens are telling me an untruth that they feel less secure. it's a level playing field issue. our immigrant communities are the ones most upset about this

because there's an open backdoor into our country where you can cut the line. such a commonsense fairness issue. the rank-and-file trade are upset about the fact that you can come to our backdoor. i locked the backdoor of my house at night. that's okay. that's not a big deal and why we have holes in the border that people walk through but i stood there and watched people three months ago between 12:30 and three in the morning from all over the world. it was an absurdity and you realize talk about politicizing an issue we should decouple border security from immigration policy. it's okay for a country to have a boundary with ports of entry. the costs to our state and the concern to our state impacts immigration policy. let me finish my thought here. i support that 100%.

that's another issue we need to resolve in a bipartisan way. one third of my workforce are second-generation americans and one of the great highlights of my life was sworn in as an honorary judge for a day to swear in the police when they naturalize but i love the migration and making it work. having a secure border to say we can have an orderly process without that and vote against seven bills that would have the least tried to address the border security issue. i'm passionate about this. the candidates had introduced themselves at a more republican rally and a woman said to us no one product into now. so afterwards i walked right up to her and she said i lost my daughter. i'm raising her child. why aren't you talking about

tantamount and we just hugged. we can't ignore the fact that this is an issue and i think think that's why lot of voters are going to vote for me. >> you got your point in there. how much of that do you want to agree with or disagree with? >> let me go backwards because i feel it's disconnected. i'm also concerned about centinela centinela. i lose a least one person a day every day to 03 i'd overdose. this is catastrophic but so much of the sentinel challenge we have we a prescription drug challenges allow the sentinel coming into america's brought in by american citizens. the fact that he raised it so nonchalantly. it adds to the sense that migrants are there reason for the sentinel crisis. i disagree but i disagree when he said we should separate

border security from me job. of course i want to keep our country safe and the believe that's a solemn nation we can have control over all of our land air and sea and that's why it supported border security measures. when they are not weaponized in a way to attack president biden and things like that for the lot of legislation he raised these are pieces of legislation that poison pill elements and them that are trying to take away resources from children to come on their own and things like that. i think they are all sensible approaches and why is it that we have such a large margarent challenge in our country right now? it's not just border security that we have only 682 federal immigration judge judges in the country. they have 3 million immigration cases and would take 10 years

for them just to get through those cases. so yes we should surge the number of immigration judges we have an increase the number of asylum officers a bipartisan bill that came up in the senate is addressing some of these. those are the things that will help us get it under control. >> decoupling a little bit mr. bashaw, what does that mean and how does it work? and who takes care of immigration who takes care of border security? >> i just think it's more common sense stuff and that sound like a d.c. insider to me going through other reasons and rationales while there is a hole in the wall that people are walking into every single day. they are coming to new jersey and maybe it's not all sense now but you are trying to say no fentanyl is coming through the holes in the border? closing the border and having a portal that's lockable enforcing

our law wise that a big deal? why hasn't biden kamala harris and you'd done? new jerseyans want to know. it doesn't make any sense to them. >> we have invested significant amounts of money and bipartisan ways to try to address the issues of fentanyl coming in. love that is happening with drugs. that's why we need scanners and technology. that's something i will continue to do. >> have you've been there to see the holes in the wall? >> have lived in there? i've been working on a lot of national security issues. >> have you've been to the border and. >> no i haven't gone to the border to look at it in that way. >> my point is when you see at congressman it seems that we don't fix the holes in the

walls. it's just and voters see that i'm just telling you. >> what i would say is i have supported barriers in right places but we don't need what you're proposing which is a wall >> i am saying fix the holes right now. just do it. you're in charge. >> on the question of mass deportation do you support that proposal by the former president and how would something like that work and what would the impact of that be? >> i don't think that's doable personally. i think it's really impractical. i do think we need to know who is here and it's why, because there were more people coming every day and it just makes sense to secure the border we have. let's not make the problem

worse. >> what about the people who are here? >> getting to know who they are and if they are criminal or have a criminal history coming from their country to our country that's a reasonable to ask them to go home. i think we need to have a compassionate conversation and work on some citizenship in my opinion. on think it's possible to support people. >> not only would it be impossible to do but it would be for our economy as well. when i talk to people across new jersey i talk to lot of businesses who say look we need the workforce right now. we can make sure people coming in they can get a work authorization and things like that. i think it makes economic sense and mr. bashaw we want to make sure there are pathways forward. we passed the dream legislation

for the daca dreamers. that's something we want to make sure we are correcting funds for. >> when she deportation be announced? >> way we have on the books already that if somebody is convicted of a crime such as a violent crime drugs and things like that those are means by which to deport. we have had that in the law already and those are actions that would before. >> there is a time when the gang of eight which i know you both read that reference, it was close to an actual deal on immigration. if something like that were to ever happen again without partisan divide we are experiencing now but what would need to be a national immigration reform bills? wondered two things, pick them

off. >> i think we need that the process that is legal and we need to have a secure border to be in force. you can't have a process if there's a backdoor or shortcut. that is one in two we need people like me. i believe political outsiders and not career politicians in d.c. insiders down there rolling up their sleeves to work across the aisle to bring people together around this issue. i agree we need workers. one third of my employees are first and second generation americans. >> people will say let's do this on the partisan way that is easier said than done clearly. how do you with these folks into shape? >> should i not try? i'm just saying we need people to be willing to try and that's the conversation that will start in their senators down there

that do want to work in a bipartisan way. we are going to solve our problems with the extreme. we will solve them from the middle and we don't need people who vote one under% of the time in washington with their party. we need people that will cross back and forth and pull people together. everyone said it was impossible, everyone. >> we have 45 seconds on that question. one or two things that might be in ability could vote for? >> i think border security is an important component that want to make sure we take the steps to ensure we have legal pathways and we should be increasing the numbers of legal pathways. these are people who want to come. people want to innovate and build businesses here in right now we are shutting the door on them. i hope we have that pathway forward for daca dreamers and

others to show them that they are welcome. >> yes or no a pathway to citizenship? >> yes. >> another crisis as we sit here tonight we are all aware that the u. s. is preparing to deploy a defense system along with 100 troops to israel. this is what the biden administration says to help israel after iran's most recent attack. do you support putting specifically american boots on the ground in this conflict. >> i will start by saying i'm familiar with the technology. that is something i'm supportive of and i believe in israel's right to lead the charge every single year in the preparation process for efforts to provide that defense. we saw with iran's direct attack

these are unprecedented after such a dangerous adversary. if you want to make sure we will be there. i think there are due with this and that's going to be safe for our troops. i worked in these situations in and i worked at the pentagon and afghanistan at the height of war. they are types of system where we have strong oversight. >> you put support putting american defenses they are? >> mr. bashaw. >> it sounds like a d.c. insider talking. you just keep calling me a d.c. insider and bureaucrat. they are people who have served our country people, i pressed my life for this country and i do not appreciate the label.

you are trying to serve in the senate so have some respect to public servant. >> i do. >> no you don't. kurdish--- curtis bashaw.com. this is a scary moment and i hope i bring the expertise and experience that i have. >> let me respond to that if you don't mind. i have taken two years and ran the reinvestment authority for democratic governor state. i served 12 years on reopening the task force. i also go the distance in the distance starting with 24,000 employees over 35 years for public service. i work for the people that work

for you. we have an economy that covers 800 families mortgage payments rent payments car payments tuition and we pay our taxes to fund the government. i would appreciate career public servants police fire emt schoolteachers. we have all affirmed military. i get skeptical of bureaucracies that are and inefficient or they lose touch with -year-old life, with being on the front lines on the economy and knowing what it is to deal with the one-size-fits-all regulation cooked up in washington d.c. office building that they don't understand the unintended consequences. i have respect for the urge to serve and we all have put the citizens and i respect that service. any confusion there i apologize for because i don't disrespect it. i believe all of us are citizens

and has to be in service to our country. >> let me verify the question of american boots on the ground. >> we have allies we have enemies in the world and i believe we need to support our allies but we need to support israel not only to help defend itself but to be a will to win the war. i don't think we have should micromanage the world. boots on the ground i'm not sure the people they are proposing to send there are because they are the experts in the missile system that we are giving them to defend themselves against an attack. all i know is to me there would be greater clarity if we weren't releasing sanctions on iran appeasing iran on one hand letting them near hezbollah and hamas. these terrorist groups that then attack israel and talk about maybe we'll call for a cease-fire or we won't and what is at the signal giving the

terrorist? i get nervous about creating moral equivalency to a terrace at organization. >> to clarify these folks are needed and multi-personal to operate it. let's take a wider view because you support israel's right to defend itself in the biden administration on sunday sent a letter to the israeli government stating essentially we need to be in check with regards to the humanitarian crisis and human rights violations. is it putting the atu us in jeopardy? should israel have the right to defend itself without conditions on weapons? i will ask you first. >> i think you have allies for a reason. they are your friends in a custom and i don't think war is the type of thing you can micromanage.

israel has a right. >> even with its with a regional powerhouse like iran another proxy or? >> israel has a right to defend and when and i ran has attacked them. >> mr. kim. similarly have allies around the world we should have a single -- to hold accountability and when we are a partner we work with them and understand what it's going to take for them to win and what defense equipment they need. when it comes to access to the military and aid we need to make sure it's going through the proper way. we do that for her own troops. we hold our own troops accountable that way and it's something we should hold everyone to. do you think the bike demonstration should use the law

by the vermont senator senator which supplies of standards and conditions with the biden administration so far, should the demonstration be enforcing that? >> yeah we should enforce those standards all over the world. i believe they should be held to account because those are the same laws that we have for our own troops. i think we should hold anyone to that same standard. >> you have endorsed former president trump. do you think they trump white house would be better equipped to handle this conflict and what do you think? >> i'm not going to try to speak for president trump on what he would do with form policy. i would say i do believe any peace through strength. one of the greatest foreign-policy moment in my life

was when arnold reagan said mr. gorbachev tear down that wall and there was moral clarity and not. there were shots fired. i do think we need to be supportive of our allies. i don't know what the president specific intentions are but i thank you can see from polling lot of people seem to trust him on form policy. >> what about you? do you trust him? >> he is their leader and i think he would talk to people. >> is anything you think the biden administration should have done differently to keep this war from escalating? >> i think there should have been more direct dialogue and diplomacy. the separate one may look back on it this effort of using intermediaries that slow down the process and d bharata is the return of the hostages. a number of the families of

hostages with their loved ones being away for over a year is. that should be a greater priority. as this war has unfolded we have seen that diminished and we are seeing the intensity we need to when it comes to diplomacy. that's something we should address. >> if an appropriations bill comes for markup which would be the first opportunity as he was senator to have a say on this type of aid would you support restrictions on anything? i've supported aid to israel in the last fundamental select traditional debate there traditional debate. through just to through start in to support our allies and trust them and we can micromanage a war.

standards of warfare are appropriate to hold each other accountable with our allies. water who is the biggest foreign threat to united states your opinion? >> i think china is a pretty big issue. i don't think fundamentally there isn't a level playing field. we are in this new realm of technology that can be exploited in weaponized. it's unknown to us and all the impact there. the trade has been imbalanced and isn't really a level playing field. keeping a big focus on china's important. >> what's the biggest threats to american's? there's a law that they are doing that i'm worried about.

i hope we can agree that we don't want to find ourselves in a great power war. it's certainly very complicated but when you look at russia and their brand these are adversaries. these are opponents that. >> if he had to pick one. >> i would say russia would be your biggest threat. we have seen hurricanes destroy parts of florida and north carolina and new jersey has its own problems with weather related catastrophes over the past decade. how can the federal government best manage the cost of flooding for instant and what priorities should congress focus on his new building resiliency fighting climate change by regulation.

i represent ocean county for a number of years. the work we did with the bipartisan infrastructure law to make our communities more versailles and i passed a law to make sure people have a the safe route and things like that. the inflation reduction act is our effort. we need to mobilize across the entire world but in the meantime we should do more to do with being response and resilience and infrastructure. that will save a lot of money on the backend. >> we will go to different question. fema said this morning you brought it up door-to-door

outreach for areas that were hit specifically by hurricane helene. fema had to pause because threats made against employees that stem from the situation. specifically about money diverted to immigrants and migrants in folks at the border and the victims of these hurricanes. in the last debate despite fema debunking not you repeated that claim of $750. why? i think mayorkas said himself their limited funds in his own office and that's where the whole thing started. it's grown from there. >> do you feel responsible for spreading any of this information? >> no. that's why reported in the mainstream media and then it got picked up and goes viral in different ways. but i will say this. governor kristine barack obama

work together hand in glove on superstorm sandy was an incredible example. if ever we need to come together as a country it's a disaster. so they have it be politicized and heard those victims more than they are suffering or to put them in the middle of a political election cycle is wrong. if there's ever a time to show my resiliency it's a disaster. >> quick answers from both of you if you can. we'll start with you mr. cam can you remember a time when you changed your mind about an issue or policy where you were once a yes or now in our vice versa and what changed her mind?

grandsons this came up when i was in congress about medicinal marijuana and psychedelics. they were talking to veterans and saying they wanted to deal to have access to some of these kinds of drugs. for them to be able to recover from traumatic brain injury and things like that. i thought it was very powerful. veterans going to mexico to get access. originally you were against the? >> i woodsen paper legalizing marijuana but when it came to these more schedule one drug's. that's something initially opposed. >> that's funny because i was going to say the marijuana thing myself the reason being i employ a lot of people i was very

nervous because with alcohol with marijuana at the 30-day test. you don't know in that meeting nervous. at the end of the day it hasn't been an issue and i change my view of it and talking to people and so. >> there's one thing and want to end with a no start with you mr. bashaw can you name a democrat anywhere here in the country could support and vote for? i've contributed to joe manchin through the years an example of somebody who is willing to work across the aisle and i appreciate it that. i think. >> i'm going to leave your answers there and mr. kim is

there a republican he would vote for either here in new jersey? they are sensible moral leaders from both parties. >> gentlemen thank you both for coming in. that's going to wrap up our 2024 conversation with u.s. senate candidates. thanks to row in university for partnering with us and to curtis bashaw and andy kim for participating you can watch the entire thing on line. for david cruz of the entire team thanks for being here. good night.

with vice-presidential nominee j.d. vance. ♪

♪ mr. vance: wow! [crowd chanting "j.d."] mr. vance: thank you, thank you, thank you. i've got to say, it's great to be in this beautiful place in pittsburgh. we're going to win pittsburgh and pennsylvania and we're going to make donald trump the next president of the united states and it starts right here, my friends. now, i honestly am just -- my

breath is taken away by this beautiful space. it makes me realize, you know, the place where we stand, pittsburgh, pennsylvania, is one of the great capitals of american craftsmanship and american manufacturing. it is an incredible, incredible place. i think there's so many things the presidency of donald trump represents but one of the most important things donald trump's leadership represents is we'll get back to a country of making beautiful stuff and doing great celebrations in beautiful buildings like the one we're in right now. we've got a lot of great local officials here and want to call out the great congressman guy rushen taller. where are you?

i appreciate you. we have 19 days to go. 19 days to work. 19 days to knock on doors. 19 days to make phone calls. 19 days to get our friends to the polls to vote. and 19 days until we get to say that kamala harris and her broken leadership, you are fired, go back to san francisco where you belong. i have to say, you'll probably be surprised to hear me say this but i feel bad for governor tim walz, kamala's running mate. and here's why. tim walz has to defend the indefensible which is kamala harris' failed record of leadership the last 3 1/2 years. think about this. when i agreed to be donald

trump's running mate and he called me and offered me the job that would change my life and change the life of my family, think about it. all i have to do is go talk about how donald trump rose take home pay, the fastest in a generation. he did. i go out and talk about how donald trump delivered rising wages for workers and inflation that was the lowest in 40 years in the united states of america. he did that, too. and of course i get to go out there and say levels of illegal immigration were lower. donald trump had secured the border in a big way for the american people but that's true, too. now, here's what governor walz has to do. he has to try to pretend that kamala harris hasn't delivered the fastest rising inflation in

a generation. the state of pennsylvania is paying $1,000 more a month to afford what we all could have afforded 3 1/2 years ago when donald trump was president. tim walz has to pretend kamala harris didn't open the southern border and of course we know she did. she came into office bragging about it and then did that exact thing. and tim walz has to go out there pretending that kamala harris is a person who delivered chaos around the world and is going to somehow bring peace to a globe that's gotten more intense with war because of her leadership. that's a pretty hard job, my friend. but i think that we all -- tim, don't worry. because in 19 short days, we're going to end that job because the american people are not buying your crap and they're not buying kamala harris' crap.

now, kamala harris -- oh, in some ways it's too easy, my friends. you talk about donald trump's record of achievement and fundamentally you're talking about a great period of peace and prosperity for the american people. you talk about kamala harris and what she said and man, we could be here all day. think about it. yesterday she had an interview with brett baird. did you see that interview? wow! wow! that made me feel pretty bad. i felt bad for her and felt bad for every single person who was watching. because remember, kamala harris, we have to remember, the entire theme of her campaign is basically pretending she doesn't know who joe biden is. don't pay attention to high inflation or that wide open southern border because kamala harris will tell you it's not her fault. she's never seen seen joe biden is what she'll go out and tell

people. she'll stand up in front of crowds without a hint of shamelessness and say on day one we're going to fix the inflation crisis affecting american families. on day one we'll lower the price of groceries. on day one we'll secure that southern border. and anybody with a lick of common sense, day one was 1,400 days ago, what have you been doing that whole time? go do your job! so brett bear asked her, well, the american people are saying they want to turn the page and that is in fact the theme of your campaign. they want to turn the page, well, who are they turning the page on because you've been the vice president for the past 3 1/2 years. you know what she said? she started talking about trump. these pathologically incapable of talking about the american future without talking about a person who hasn't been president for 3 1/2 years.

look, i wish he had been president for the past 3 1/2 years, we wouldn't have had all these problems. but kamala harris, it's so shameless and something i think most politicians wouldn't be able to do to stand up there and run so far away from the record that she bears a lot of responsibility for. and we're voting for the prosperity of our children and we're not giving kamala harris a proceed possession for the president of the united states is what the people of pennsylvania are voting to do. i want to talk about the affordability crisis facing families and how we'll make it better. think about this. in just 3 1/2 years the price of

housing has gone up 40%. the price of eggs has gone from $1.50 to well north of $3 for a dozen eggs. the price of groceries at large is up 30% because of kamala harris' policies. this is not rocket science. if you want to lower the prices on families, what we need to do is release pennsylvania workers and drill, baby, drill, at lower prices for all of us. [cheers and applause] mr. vance: i'm asked sometimes what's the connection between energy and groceries, energy and housing? the answer is everything. because energy is the biggest cost of what most of us make. if you think about the truck drivers getting the groceries to the grocery store, if he's paying 50% more for diesel, you're paying more for your

groceries or the carpenter getting lumber delivered to the site, the guy delivering that is paying 50% more for gasoline and you're paying more for a house. the biggest and most important thing donald trump wants to do to lower prices for pennsylvania families is very simple, we're going to drill, baby, drill, and unleash american energy. [applause] mr. vance: now, if we think about it, look, we've got plente great commonwealth of pennsylvania, on the saudi arabia of natural gas. we have between west virginia, ohio, pennsylvania, we have enough coal and natural gas to power a golden age of american prosperity but the only way we're going to be able to take advantage of it is to fire kamala harris who is saying she

wants to buy oil and natural gas from dictators all over the world. donald trump and i want to buy it from american workers and american territory. we have plenty of it right here at home. and to the friends watching at home, just look at the clips, kamala harris announced she wanted to ban fracking in 2019 and pursued policies that made it harder for american workers and american businesses and now she says i didn't mean any of it. we know she means it because she governed to make it hard for pennsylvania families. don't trust kamala harris on the campaign trail but trust her deeds and her deeds show she's not fit to represent pennsylvania and she's not fit to serve as president of the united states of america.

let's talk about something else where kamala harris' deeds don't match her words and that's what's going on at the american southern border. kamala harris, i don't know if you watched any of her interviews. i don't recommend it because you lose 20i.q. points if you do. kamala harris has religion on the border. all of a sudden after 3 1/2 years of being the border czar during the worst period of open borders, kamala now tells us she really cares about a secure southern border and blames donald trump who has not been the president for the last 3 1/2 years, she blames donald trump for the problems that have come up during kamala harris' own time in office. think about this, on day one kamala harris undid 94 executive orders of donald trump that destroyed his successful border policies. she ended remain in mexico. they suspended deportation.

they stopped construction of the trump border wall. i've been to the border more times than kamala harris. if you go down there, you know what you see? big, beautiful slabs of rusted border wall sitting on the ground because kamala harris has made it impossible for american workers to build an american border wall and now she wants to lie to us and tell us that she cares about the border. how dumb do you think we are, kamala harris. we saw what you did and we don't believe you now that you're running for president. now, i will say to kamala harris' credit, every time she gives an interview we gain about 100,000 votes. and you know, the reporters will talk about how until yesterday, and of course that was a disaster, that kamala harris would only do softball interviews. we have any sports fans, any

baseball fans in the room here? [applause] mr. vance: you know, as everybody who has ever played baseball or softball will tell you, the problem with a softball interview is you still have to be able to hit a softball. and unfortunately, even when kamala harris goes and does a softball interview, she says something that blows up the entire narrative of her campaign. i don't know if you noticed but about 10 days ago she did an interview with "the view." that's the easiest interview in the world for a democratic politician. i love tucker carlson but that's like me going to to do an interview with tucker carlson and saying it's a tough interview. she gives an interview with "the view" and say what is one thing you would have done differently than joe biden during your time in office. and she said, nothing comes to mind. nothing comes to mind. after standing up there and

lying for years -- or i should say months, about how she's going to somehow be different than joe biden, she cannot name a single thing she would have done differently than joe biden. i think, actually, her interview revealed an important truth about the kamala harris campaign. if you think about their plans and slogans, because they don't really actually have any details, maybe we should change the slogan of the kamala harris campaign to nothing comes to mind because i think that would capture the kamala harris campaign better than what they're saying right now. so let's try it out. kamala harris, how are you going to lower the price of groceries for american citizens? nothing comes to mind. kamala harris, how are you going to secure the border you opened for 3 1/2 years? nothing comes to mind. think about it, i think we may have just saved the kamala harris campaign. at least she'll be honest if she

goes out there and says to every question, nothing comes to mind. that would at least solve that one problem for her. but look, we need a president who actually has ideas and a plan and a vision for how to solve this country's problems. but let's just compare and contrast the record of kamala harris and the record of donald trump where she did 94 executive orders to open up the american southern border, donald trump shut down that southern border, built a wall, and secured america for american citizens. that's a hell of a record to run on. where kamala harris had groceries up by 25% and housing up by 40%, donald trump made it affordable to live the american dream for american citizens. where kamala harris wants to

raise taxes on american workers and reward companies that ship jobs overseas, donald trump wants to cut taxes for american workers and penalize the companies and countries shipping our jobs overseas. and of course where kamala harris implemented regulation after regulation, she shut down the keystone pipeline, donald trump is going to reopen that pipeline and open up american energy for all of our citizens. and you know, she's got a problem. kamala harris has got a problem because the words have not matched the deed, and a lot of folks who used to be the foundation of the democratic party are abandoning the democratic party in big numbers, especially in the commonwealth of pennsylvania. a lot of you know my story. i was raised by two blue-collar

democrats, my grandparents who took care of me because my own mom struggled with addiction. i think my grandparents, if they were alive today, they'd be doing what a lot of other union democrats are doing, which is recognizing the democratic party of kamala harris has left them behind and they're welcome in the republican party of donald j. trump. that's why, my friends, i'm proud about this. over 65% of pennsylvania teamsters support donald j. trump for president. and that's why union workers, nonunion workers, but pretty much just everybody with common sense is welcome in the big tent republican party of donald trump. i don't care what letter is next to your name, you're welcome in our movement.

now, i want to talk about -- somebody asked me earlier, why do we have so much division in the united states of america? i think that's an important question. because i think, look, whoever they vote for, whatever their background, i genuinely do think most of our fellow citizens are good people, whether democrat, independent, or republican. they're our neighbors and they're our friends. but when kamala harris talks about division, she likes to blame the republicans and our country for being the source of that division. i'm thinking to myself, where is the leadership of this country, if you've been the vice president for 3 1/2 years, maybe the divisiveness in this country is something you ought to look in the mirror about rather than blame republicans all over the united states of america.

but i also think one of the biggest sources of division in the united states of america is we have leaders who would rather censor their fellow citizens than listen to them and persuade them. this is an important thing that changed about this country. and i want you to go back, my friends, to just a few weeks ago, i pointed out that there's a small town in ohio, and of course there's -- what's going on in aurora, colorado, we're seeing all across this country that criminal gangs sometimes are moving into our communities and making it unsafe for american citizens. even if it's not criminal gangs, sometimes it's just people moving into our communities who have no legal right to be there in the first place. that causes a lot of problems,s especially for the folks watching this at home when we add thousands of illegal aliens in american schools, children who can't speak the english

language and that means american citizens lose quality in their education. [applause] mr. vance: when we bring in millions upon millions of illegal aliens and give them free health care, that means hospital wait times in the commonwealth of pennsylvania have shot up for pennsylvania families. i feel terrible for anybody who has to take their kids to the emergency room because you'll wait longer than three hours because there are millions of people in the united states of america who don't have the legal right to be here. here's the thing, kamala harris and they are friends in the media, they will say somehow donald trump doesn't support social security and medicare. donald trump is fighting to protect social security and medicare every single day. but i'll tell you what is going to bankrupt social security and medicare, and that's kamala harris' plan to give social

security and medicare to illegal aliens who have no right to be here in the first place. so while kamala harris wants to roll out the red carpet forily dell aliens and give them medicare and social security, the message of donald j. trump to people here in this country illegally is simple, pack your bags because in four months you're going back home. [cheers and applause] mr. vance: it's not just that i disagree with kamala harris on the policy of immigration, you know what really gets me going? when kamala harris attacks the citizens in her own country that they are racist for daring to say she shouldn't have opened up the american border. i think that's one of the most disgraceful things. so i think our message to kamala

harris ought to be very simple, stop trying to censor us for criticizing your government. stop calling us racist for saying we've got to close down that southern border. stop accusing us of being bad people because we have the audacity to say to kamala harris she ought to do her damn job and she needs to look in the mirror and stop attacking the citizens in her own country. and i think that is what has led to the divisiveness in our country. because donald trump, whether we agree with you or disagree with you, whether you vote with us in 2024 or don't, we're rooting for you because you're our fellow citizen and we will always fight for your right to speak your mind. our founders -- the genius of the first amendment is not that it protects everybody's rights, the genius of the first amendment is that when we debate our ideas rather than censor one

another, we can actually come to the table and we can disagree but still share share a meal with one another afterwards. and we ought to remember that while kamala harris and tim walz talk a big game about bringing our country together, you do not bring our fellow citizens together by trying to silence them, you bring our fellow citizens together by talking with them and inviting the conversation on how we'll make this country better and fix our problems. that's what donald trump and i promise you and promise everyone watching. we may not always agree with one another but we'll fight for your right to speak your mind and this is america and we get to say whatever the hell we want to. [cheers and applause] [crowd chanting "usa"]

mr. vance: thank you all. sorry, i'm fired up there. but i want to say one more thing and we'll take a few questions from reporters and you guys are welcome to stay and watch me as i answer these questions. but i want to remind you that as much as the energy is really good in pennsylvania, and we've got a lot of good energy in pennsylvania, i think we'll win this state and win it in a big way. and by the way, we're not just winning pennsylvania just for president trump and j.d. vance, we're winning pennsylvania for dave mccormick running for the senate. let's get out there and support him. and for a lot of our great congressional candidates, and i know we have great state

candidates running, too, but we're not going to do it unless we get out there and vote. i'm going to make three requests, three requests of every single person in this room. number one, first thing i'd like you to do is take out your phone, take it out right now. take a photo of this event, take a selfie, a photo of me, whatever. post about it on social media or send it to your friends in a text message and tell them why you're voting for donald trump and remind them we have to get out and vote on or before november 5. that brings me to my second point. i'm not a fan, to be honest with you, election season over election day but donald trump has said this very well, it is what it is. and we've got to take advantage of all the methods we can to vote because if we're not doing it, we're giving ground to the other side. vote by absentee if you're not going to be in town. vote by mail if that's what you want to do. vote early.

vote election day. just get out there and vote. i believe we've done more on the last few years of election integrity at the republican national convention so rest assured we're fighting every single day that your vote is going to count but only if you get out there and actually cast it. everybody, make sure you get out there and vote. two more requests here. the third thing is i don't want just you to vote, i want everybody to get out there and get nine of their friends and family to the polls, too, because if you do that, look, pennsylvania could be decided by a couple thousand votes and none of us want to wake up november 6, this is nightmare fuel with the idea of a president-elect kamala harris. if you want to prevent that, don't just get yourself to the polls but your friends and family out there, too. every single one of us commit nine people in addition to yourselves to get out and vote. this is the final thing i want to say. i'm going to read the website to

get it right. swampthevoteusa.com. jumpthevoteus swampthevoteusa.com. check your polling information. track your polling information. we're going to win this election by working our rear ends off for it and getting out and voting. swampthevoteusa.com. check your registration and make sure we all get out there and vote. look, i think -- man, we're 19 days out and i'm feeling good about this election. i really think we're in a position to not just elect donald trump the next president but to take this country back in a very, very big and meaningful way, so let's do it.

so i'm grateful to all of you being here and grateful for what you've already done. and most of all, i'm grateful we're all going to work our butts off the 19 days and make donald trump the next president of the united states. god bless you all. thank you for having me. i'll take some questions from the reporters now. mr. vance: thank you all so much. we're not done yet. we'll have a little bit more fun. i ask we start with the local reporters. i'll only take four or so questions because i have to get on the road. but the first question, i don't know we have a microphone there. i assume we do. i love jesus.

thank you, ma'am. it's always good to have that reminder, jesus loves every single one of us. that's an important thing. god bless you. first question. reporter: hi, senator. hi, senator vance, my name is steven more from wtrf channel 7 in wild and wonderful wheeling, west virginia. now, the u.s. labor force participation rate is historically low among young men in particular. there are a lot of reasons for this from drug addiction, lack of education, mental health problems. how does this administration plan to address this issue and get our young people back to work so they can start families, buy homes, and participate in the american dream? mr. vance: yes, sir, a very important question and the most important way to get people back into the labor force is to make sure we've got good jobs and the dollar goes far enough to support a family in this

country. if you want to get people a back to work, you've got to make sure when they earn a dollar, first of all, they get to keep as much of it as possible, which is why we want to lower focus' taxes. but second of all, a lot of people are not going to choose to work if they work 40 hours a week, 50 hours a week and can't afford food or can't afford to buy a house. this inflation that we've experienced under kamala harris' leadership, we've got to make the dollar worth a dollar again and that's something donald trump and i are going to fight for every single day. now, a second thing we've got to do is we've got to promote more pathways in this country to the middle class. when i was growing up, what everybody told me, all my guidance counselors, all my teachers, they told everybody, you've got to go to college, you've got to go to college. well, here's the thing. now we're waking up and realize we have way too many basket weavers with a four-year college

degree but not enough electricians or welders or enough people to build things in this country and that's got to change. so we want to make it easier, whatever you want to do, if you want to go be a doctor, be a doctor. but if you want to work with your hands and build something in the greatest country in the history of the world, we have to make sure there are pathways available for people who want to do that. that's how we get people back engaged with the work force is we give them the training for the kind of jobs they want to do that will make our whole country better in the process. thank you for the question. reporter: good afternoon, nicole ford here with wpxi in pittsburgh. when it comes to pennsylvania, which county are you going to look at the margins first to know that you have won the state? mr. vance: that's an interesting question. look, i'm not a -- i'm a political candidate but not much of a political prognosticator.

the only prognostication is pennsylvania will make donald trump the next president of the united states. i really do believe that. but look, i mean, the smart people who know this state will tell you, you know, you've got to look at bucks county in the east and eerie county in the west. there are a couple really important counties we'll pay attention to. this, my friends, is why i'm so excited and optimistic about this race, if you look at the early voting numbers and look at how much redder pennsylvania has gotten in the last couple years, we are going to win this race so long as we work for it over the next 19 days. i really do believe that. but the final point i want to make about this is the reason why i think president trump's message resonates so well in pennsylvania, more, frankly, than republicans did from 20 years ago is that president

trump believes in making things in america and stamping more product with the incredible label, "made in the u.s.a." and the only way -- look, pennsylvania has some of the proudest traditions of steel manufacturing, of craftsmanship in the entire country, frankly, in the entire world. but we've gotten way too far away from self reliance in the united states of america. let me give you a statistic that scares the hell out of me and should scare every person in pennsylvania. china has 32% of world manufacturing g.d. that means the goods that are made, 32% of them are made in china. you know what the number is for the united states of america? 18%. that means china makes more stuff -- i'm talking about the pharmaceuticals that we put in the bodies of our children. some of the important weapons of the future, the computer chips. we've got to make more of our

own stuff in the united states of america. the way to do that is lower regulations and lower energy costs for american businesses and to rebuild the great american middle class. final point i'll make about this and this is where president trump gets the most criticism but also where president trump is the most right. if you are a business and you rely on foreign slave labor at $3 a day, the only way to rebuild american manufacturing is to say if you want to bring that product made by slave labor back into the united states of america, you're going to pay a big fat tariff before you get it back into our country. and don't -- my message to pennsylvaniaians, don't trust anybody, especially kamala harris when she tells you she's going to rebuild american manufacturing without forcing

the chinese to pay a tariff, there is no way to do it unless you're fighting hard against the people stealing our jobs and stealing our manufacturing industries. you've got to do it. if you're not doing it, you're not serious about rebuilding the american middle class. next question. reporter: hi, j.d., adam for the pittsburgh post gazette. you've raised questions about election security and integrity and if you think it cuts both ways. if you're leading in the popular vote nationally after election week do you think kamala harris should concede if she has similar concerns? mr. vance: whoever wins this election, and it's going to be donald trump and j.d. vance -- you know, we certainly expect to have a good election. we certainly expect to be congratulating the winner, and we certainly expect that winner is going to be us. look, can you say on the one hand you don't think big tech should be interfering in an

election while at the same time respecting the results of the election. i don't think there's any inconsistency of that. i think american citizens have a right to be heard and american citizens have a right to have every legal ballot counted. we'll work on legislation while in office which is the save act that makes it harder for illegal aliens to vote in american elections. and i think, like most people, most people in our country, whether they agree or disagree with me on any issue, they can admit we can have faith in the 2024 election and i do have faith in the 2024 election while assessing we can do a hell after lot better at the same time. both thoughts can be held in our heads the same time and is certainly true for the majority of the residents of this commonwealth. thank you. reporter: hi, i'm ryan with the pittsburgh tribute review. you talked a little bit about housing costs. i'm kind of wondering if you

could elaborate more on the issues on dealing with the supply of housing. i know here in pittsburgh we have -- just like everywhere, we have a bad supply of housing. how do we boost that and address that issue? mr. vance: important question. we have to talk about the supply issues and the demand issues. you asked about supply. we don't make enough houses. there's not a high enough supply of houses in the united states of america. what does it mean? lower energy costs to make it easier to build. that's why we say drill, baby, drill, and that's the most important point of lowering housing costs and get mortgage rates down so people can afford to buy a home when they find a home they like. and thirdly, you have to end the regulations that make it harder for people to build homes in the united states of america. we're the proudest building country in the world and we have to get back to that very proud tradition. but we also have to be honest. if you build five million new

homes over the next three years but you import 25 million illegal aliens, the price of housing is going to go up. because when american homes don't go to american citizens, that is one of the biggest drivers of the increase in housing costs. so here's the simple donald trump plan to reduce housing costs for american citizens, build more american homes but make sure they go to american citizens, not people who don't have the legal right to be here. we'll do just a couple more. reporter: with kdt news. trump talks about the enemy within. will trump use the military to go after people who oppose donald trump. mr. vance: of course not. [crowd booing] mr. vance: i'm glad you asked the question. it's so preposterous. first of all, the biggest

problem we have in this country right now, because of kamala harris people can't afford housing and groceries. we have to fix that problem. that's why me and donald trump are running to bring back prosperity to the american people. and we have 25 million illegal aliens, many who committed violent crimes who shouldn't be in the united states to begin with. by the way, those are the issues that pennsylvaniaians care the most about. when you go out and talk to them, you look at the polls. we ought to be talking about how to deliver peace and prosperity for the commonwealth of pennsylvania and that's what president trump and i are focused on. but look, the media picks up on this question when he makes this observation that we've also got to have law and order in our own country, too, because this is an important issue. do we remember the media loves to talk about january 6, and of

course january 6, 2021, if you were violent and committed acts of violence, then you should be prosecuted for them. everybody believes that. but what they don't like to focus on, is months prior, $13 million was damaged and 20 lives were lost in the mass riots in this country in the summer of 2020. and what president trump has said quite directly, look, if that happens again, and you ever have people that think they cannot just exercise their first amendment rights but loot and riot and burn down american cities, we're going after them and going after them hard. we don't tolerate that crap in the united states of america. reporter: hi, kayley gunderson, channel 4 in pittsburgh. i know you touched on election

integrity but i want to ask about mail-in voting. how do you reconciled former president donald trump and the party casting doubt in mail-in voting when the republican party is encouraging supporters to vote by mail. mr. vance: let me say two things about that. first of all, as i said earlier, i don't love that we've gotten away with having an election day where everybody casts the same ballot and casts it on the same day. but again, the people of pennsylvania, through their elected legislatures, through the governor, have changed how this works. i'm not saying i prefer mail-in voting, i'm saying that mail-in voting is now here so let's deal with that reality and make sure our voices count just as much as the other side. that's all we're saying here. now, by the way, a number of international organizations, a number of folks have talked about the fact that mail-in voting can sometimes introduce

problems, and we're fighting every single day to make sure those problems don't happen in pennsylvania or anywhere else in our country. here are the things you've got to do. you've got to make sure mail-in votes have the proper signature matching. you've got to make sure mail-in votes are properly tracked to a real registered voter. there are all these things we can do and the republican party is fighting every single day, not just for our own voters but for everybody. we want every legal ballot to cast and count but we only want the legal ballots to count, not the illegal ballots. so we've got the election integrity underway whether you vote by mail or voting early or in person, your ballot is going to count. my message to everybody is get out there and vote because it's the only way we're going to send kamala harris back to san francisco where she belongs.

so on that note, because we're going to have to hit the road here. and i'm very excited. my friends, my cousin who is more like a little sister to me, is getting married tomorrow. let's give her a round of applause. we'll tell her that the people -- i'll tell my cousin bonnie rose, named after my mama, the thoughts, the prayers, the blessings, and the good wishes of the commonwealth of pennsylvania go with her on this new journey. [applause] i want to tell you a story. i've got so many stories and i have learned so much about our country over the last few weeks. people always ask me how i'm doing and i appreciate you asking but the answer is i'm doing as good as a person possibly could.

because aside from being married from my beautiful wife and being a father to our three kids, the greatest honor of my entire life is to stand up here and ask all of you to make me your next vice president of the united states. it is a cool thing. it is a great honor. [crowd chanting: jd] but one of the things that happens of course is you get to meet a lot of people. there is a woman that i met a few weeks ago as a matter of fact, she was just in one of these photo lines, you take photos with people before, and she was talking to me about how she was really hurting because she couldn't afford her groceries anymore. she was talking about the things they cut back on, the things they like to have in their house but they don't have anymore because they've got to make ends meet and they have to make do with what they have. she spent about 30 seconds telling me about how she was

struggling to buy groceries and then she spent the next three minutes telling me that she prays for my family every day. she knew the three names of our beautiful kids and she prays for each one of them by name every single day. and she spent more time asking me how i was than talking about her problems even though i'm the one who gets to run for vice president and she's worried about paying her bills. i've met so many people like that. you know it it's taught me? it's taught me we have a generosity of spirit among our people that i was not fully aware of until i excepted this incredible honor. i think that when you realize how great the people of the united states of america are -- [applause] and how beautiful of a country we have, i was in williamsport, pennsylvania just yesterday i believe, and we get off the plane and there is a mountain by the airport that is red and yellow and orange and green

because of course pennsylvania is really beautiful but especially this time of year. and we've got the best natural resources. the chinese and the russians would literally kill for, sometimes they have, for the natural resources we have just right here in the commonwealth of pennsylvania. and i realize that is frustrated as sometimes we get and certainly as frustrated as i get with the failure of kamala harris's leadership, we've got to remember, my friends, that the only thing that is truly broken about the united states of america is the failed leadership in washington, d.c. so over the next 19 days when you are feeling tired or you are sick of talking about the election, i want you to remember that woman who is working hard to elect donald trump and is worried that if he is not elected president she is going to go another four years where

she is not able to afford her groceries. i want you to remember a kid like me were sometimes my mama wouldn't turn on the heat at night if times were especially tight. withrow a few extra blankets on and just make do. i would like you to remember that the basic principle that every american citizen deserves to have safe communities. every american citizen deserves to turn on the heat during the middle of a cold winter night. every american citizen, so long as they work hard and play by the rules, all to be able to afford the groceries they want for themselves and their families. and that is only going to happen if we get donald j. trump back in the white house. so let's go fight for it, let's go earn it, let's go make donald trump the next president, and we're going to do it together. god bless you guys and thank you for everything you're doing. we love 'ya. ♪ [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2024] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy.

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campaigning in the battleground states of michigan and georgia.

vp harris: good afternoon, everyone. good afternoon. well, it is good to be back in detroit. we are back today to thank all the folks for the work that they are doing to help organize voting, get them out to vote today. early voting begins in detroit. it is good to be back here, and obviously to be in a great american city and to applaud it from being just that, a great american city with a lot of hard-working folks who have grit and ambition and deserve to be respected for all about. that on monday, i will be headed

to pennsylvania come to michigan, and wisconsin, to spend some time with a great american leader, liz cheney, and talk to folks about why it is important to put country before party and value the very important foundational principles that we stand on, in terms of especially upholding the constitution of the united states and the rule of law and the importance of having a president in the white house who actually understands their job and is fit to serve. with that, i will take any questions. >> are you concerned republicans are cutting democratic strength to early voting, and how do you feel about that? vp harris: what i'm hearing as we are seeing record turnout. what i'm hearing is that in georgia, for example, we are beating our records in terms of early voting, and in north carolina. michigan, i challenge folks here to do the same. i don't have enough data to tell you who is voting for who or how

they are leaning, but i think it is great that people are turning out in voting and staying active. it is what we should all want, right? people understand it is their civic duty and that they can make a difference. >> what you think of elon musk getting increasingly involved in the election, both through his financial contributions to truck's super pac also upholding campaign events, campaign rally's. vp harris: the most important thing that anyone of us can do right now is to pay attention to the issues that are at stake, and there a lot at stake. we are looking at, as i've said repeatedly, because it is true, two very different people for our country. donald trump has proven himself to be increasingly unstable and unfit, and he is trying to take us backward. he is someone who demands the american people, who has no actual plan for uplifting the middle class, no actual plan

that is about any sense of optimism or who the american people are or what we are capable of doing, and i think that is what is most important in these remaining, i believe it is 17 days until the election, focusing on the issues themselves and reminding the american people they know not only have the choice but they have the power to decide who will lead this country after the selection. >> yesterday, you face -- he faced tremendous backlashes mention his name. do you think you could lose the election because of guys i? -- because of gaza. 32 more people were killed overnight. how risky is it that you could lose the election?

vp harris: well, it is undeniable that it is something everyone is aware of what is happening there. i speak publicly all the time about the facts. there are so many tragedies coming out of gaza, and the first and most tragic story is october 7 and what happened that day and then what has happened since. i think what is critically important as we look at this moment is one, acknowledging the tragedy of what has happened in gaza, and terms of the extraordinary number of innocent palestinians who have been killed and taking that seriously and speaking truth about that, in addition, of course, what i said happened on october 7, and terms of innocent israelis being slaughtered, women being horribly raped, and then today, with the killing of sinwar, this

creates an opening that i believe we must take full advantage of, to dedicating ourselves to ending this war and bring a the hostages home. >> -- vp harris: as it relates to the issues, it has never been easy. that is not me we give up. it is always going to be difficult. we cannot give up. >> one more from npr. >> you have been doing more rapid response, responding in real time in recent days. it feels like something different from the way you are handling it before, and i'm wondering, why that shift? vp harris: he's becoming increasingly unstable and unhinged, and the american people are seeing it, witnessing it in real time, and we must take notice of the fact that this is an individual who wants to be president of the united

states, and i think the american people deserve better than somebody who actually seems to be unstable. thank you all. thank you. entertainer lizzo in detroit, michigan. this is live coverage on c-span. ♪ ♪

[♪ "freedom" by beyoncé and kendrick lamar plays ♪] vp harris: are we going to do this? hey, detroit. thank you so much. hey, detroit. are we ready to get out there and get everyone to vote? and the mic is not on.

now it is on. hey, detroit, are we ready? before i came out, my team was telling me, i was talking to members of the press, hey, since early voting has started -- can you hear me? they can't hear me. i'm going to have to stand right here. ok, can you hear me now? ok. there we go. so, my team was telling me, so you know georgia started early voting, and they broke historic records in early voting. north carolina started early voting, broke historic records in north carolina. so we are going to break the records here in detroit today, yes, we are.

we are going to do this, because we know what is at stake, and we know the power of the people. this is about the power of the people. this is about knowing each one of us, as an individual, and as a community, as a coefficient. we have the power to make the decision about the direction of our country, and we know this election is about two very different visions for our future. our focus is on the future, focus on young leaders, focused on the ambitions and aspirations and the dreams of the american people. [cheers and applause] understanding, like the people of detroit, we have grit, we

have excellence, we have history! [cheers and applause] and it is about looking in the face of a perfect stranger and seeing a neighbor and understanding that we are all in this together. we all have so much more in common than what separates us, and we are going to fight for this country we love. we are in this to win it. [cheers and applause] and we know, look, it is going to be hard work, but we like hard work. hard work is good work. and we will win. we will win. so, you all are here, taking time out of your busy lives and all your other obligations, and i thank you so very much. and i know what today is. this is a working day. we are ready to get out there,

we are ready to walk the neighborhood, we are ready to talk with our neighbors and our friends and just of the people that we see and remind them they are important, and that we are so optimistic about our new generation of leadership for america and what we will do together. that is about investing in working people, in middle-class people, in our children. what we do interns of caring about the education of our children, which is why we are not falling for the other by trying to get rid of the department of education and headstart. because we know what we stand for. we stand for the idea that the true measure of the strength of a leader is not based on who you beat down, it is on who you list ft up! [cheers and applause] and these are the things that we

stand for, as a community of people that understand the importance of caring and kindness, who understand the importance of having a leader who speaks truth and is not so self concern. someone needs to watch his valleys, if you are not sure how to vote, because he spends full-time talking about himself and mythical characters, not talking about the working people, not talking about you, not talking about lifting you up. as we spend these next 17 days, we are going to go vote today, we are going to my mind people to vote, we are going to register folks to vote, we are going to email, text, knock on doors, and we are going to remind people of what is at stake. and with that, i want to thank incredible leaders in michigan who are here, the lieutenant

governor, garland gilchrest. he always stands above the crowd . we have representative slotkin, we have all of the national labor union presidents who are here, and let's not forget the most phenomenal lizzo! but to everyone who is here, i'm not going to spend anymore time on this stage, because we have work to do. we have 17 days to get this done , and we are not going to be able to get these 17 days back. and what i think we all know is on election day, we don't want to have any regrets about what we could have done these next 17 days.

and on november 5 and at the end of that day, we are going to look at each other and say yes, the power is with the people, and we made a difference, and that is the beauty of who we are as a nation. we know we can make a difference, because the power is with the people. god bless you, thank you. i will see you out there. thank you all. ♪

brad raffensbperger. this is 25 minutes. >> i cover voting for the national desk at the washington post

>> i wonder if you can talk about what you're more focused heading into this election, please? >> good morning, amy. we have been focusing on this since day one, help rebuild trust where we felt it needed to be rebuilt. number one no matter how you vote in georgia, we now have photo id for all forms of voting, if you vote absentee, voter id, in-person early and obviously on election day. that sures up voter's trust in

the process. all the early voting has to be reported by 8:00 p.m. on election day. we will be starting early voting despite helne devastating our counties and several others, all 159 counties are starting early voting tomorrow. >> as you said early voting start tomorrow across the state of georgia, what can voters expect and what would you like them to know about the start of early voting on october 16th? >> well, by in large all are in great shape but if you're living for in one of the counties that were hit, we will have to move precincts and probably election day. we have been working very closely with governor kemp and his team at fema. since this, the day after the hurricane hit, making sure that

we have power, internet. you can go to my voter page and that'll tell you where to vote on election day. we want voters to be aware of that. >> and what kind of turnout are you expecting, early voting, mail balloting, what you're expecting and how well the counties are prepared for that? >> we don't like making predictions but from what we've seen so far, last week we had 250,000 people that had absentee ballot as the united states postal service did post up game and ballots have been requested and accented, they went out to voters last week. 250,000, we may have another 50, so 300,000. i would say 5 million voters, that's 6%.

so that's really about what we are going to see for absentee voting, i believe, probably 60% will be voting early and the balance of the other 30%, maybe 35% vote on election day. >> and is that number 6%, certainly lower than 2020 during the pandemic, of course, is that higher than pre-pandemic absentee voting levels in georgia. >> it's about the same. 5, 6 in 2022, 5% back in 2018, 2016 and prior years. so looks like georgia have gone back to preferred way of voting which is actually 17 days of early voting that we have. >> let's talk a little bit about the state election board. of course, you are sort of the top election official in the state of georgia and give a lot of guidance to the counties that are actually running the elections on the ground in the state. as you know the state election board has been passing new rules in recent weeks including one

requiring hand count of the number of ballots in the days and immediately after the election. what do you think the impact of the rules are and what ask your view of the purpose of those rules? >> first of all, about the hand counting is before the judge and he'll hear that later this week. that will be decided and pushback from both sides of the aisle and -- they are also concerned about management. first of all, the chain of custody concerns, have the people breaking all the boxes and starting count to ballots, who is touching, there's supposed to be a chain of custody. we have that in place. also hand count for larger precincts. it's going to take a lot more

time. everything that we have been fighting for the voter quicker responses, quicker results, that's why we are going to post all the early votes by 8:00 p.m. well, this drags on for the final 30% to 1, 2, 3, 4:00 o'clock in the morning. really that just becomes breeding ground for conspiracy theories and we don't support but the judge will make that determination and we will find out and follow the law. >> do you think that the state election overstepped its authority with these rules? >> i've been pretty clear that they exceed state law, so is general counsel. they have it. >> got it, thank you. i heard a story last week about how republican members of congress in pennsylvania to force state officials to segregate oversees and military ballots which they say are not sufficiently secure, the process is too porous they say and in pennsylvania they don't require

the same identification requirements required of in-person of early voting and domestic mail balloting. do you have thoughts about the impact of that suit and of the rhetoric questioning the security of military and oversees ballots and have you heard about that issue in your state? >> well, what i will say i support military and support their commitment to -- if that's what happens during military conflict. we want to make sure we get overseas ballots out to them and we've done that, no matter how you vote, using driver's license number or some form of photo id based process so we can tie that back to the voters and give voters -- look at how we do it. look at some other states, minnesota, nebraska and texas

are using photo id. i think that sures up voters' trust and confidence. >> of course, you were a party to the famous phone call januarh president trump asked you to find 11,779 votes when it looked like he had lost the race in your state to joe biden and, in fact, the race had been certified at that point. i wonder if you can talk about how you're combating misinformation and as you put it a minute ago conspiracy theories and how much harder is it, is it harder because some of those theories are coming from the top of the presidential ticket, for instance, trump's running mate j.d. vance has refused to say given multiple opportunities by the press that trump lost the 2025 election, i wonder if you can talk about to combat that kind of misinformation coming from the top of the ticket? >> well, we want voters to have

high trust, high confidence, so if you look at everything that we've done since 2020 and even going back to 2019 when i took office we have verifiable paper ballot but this year what we are going to do is first time in america ever, we are going to be able to audit every single race that's been cast, so we have the ballot images after 5 million ballots are cast, we will have the images and be able to run those through a scanner with a tech company and not just the president, county surveyor and county librarian and compare to what you've got with the machine totals. that's one way that we are going to retally that and give you 100% risk limit to help you encourage and dump trust with voters. we think that's really important. i think photo id for all forms of voting. so everything we've done is make sure that we can proof the accuracy and then have suspenders no matter what people

say, we are going to stay we've already checked that. we have list and recognize that for several reasons, one we are also part, part of a 25-state, multistate organization. our office will exchange our voter list with 25 voter states, it's a confidential secure way of doing that to make sure that we don't have two people on different voter list. now with our department of driver's services all -- all, you know, 49 other states plus the district of colombia, all of them will get their driver's license. you say move from georgia to whatever state that is in, massachusetts or could be washington state, we find out about that and we can reach out to the voter to make them off the list because they driver's license in other state because they've moved there. death records monthly and then we also have bilaterals with four states that pulled out of the multistate organization. so everything we've done to have clean and accurate voter list

because people always said there's dead people voting, no, there aren't. first secretary of state over 20 months ago to do and ad it of the voting roster to make sure only american citizens are on the voter list and because we do a robust citizenship verification, we came back and we found 1600 people who attempted to register but never got on the voter list because our system was secure, our system checked that and couldn't prove citizenship. so we feel like we have a lot of things in place, so people can say things but at the end of the day, the winner will be the winner and the other person will be the person that comes up short and we are trying to gentle as we share that because we understand how polarized is on both sides of the aisle. >> notstanding the steps that your happens has been taking, that has not stopped groups and individuals from filing lawsuits claiming that the voter rules in georgia and elsewhere, of course, are still bloated or,

you know, still do include people who are not eligible to vote or noncitizen or moved away. what are you doing specifically if anything to -- to sort of counter message, when you talk to individuals who disagree with you, do you feel like you've made progress with them? do you give them the same explanation that you gave our viewers and is it effective and can you talk expansively what your office has in place in terms of a messaging counterpoint or rapid response operation to deal with the misinformation that is so prevalent out there right now? >> well, we do the best we can with our press releases but we understand on a good day we may have 50,000 twitter followers and others have millions upon millions, probably outside organization that is can weigh in there and really try to correct all of that disinformation and, you know, be very -- you know, out there in

social media to get that out there immediately. but our job is to do our job and our job is respond to people. we get sued and beat them in court because at the end of the day, you have to have the numbers, we have the numbers and we have the facts on our side have you come out and attempt today refute his statements in particular and what impact do you think his misinformation has had on voters in georgia specifically? >> well, i think that when people have any questions, particularly someone with his really number of twitter followers, his influence, he can

call me whatever he wants. in fact, he can get my personal cell phone number, you can give it to him and i won't put it out here today because i can only handle so many calls today. this will be safe, secure and we will get those results posted quickly and, you know, i think we have high marks from the heritage foundation and also the bipartisan policy center. top of the list of those organizations. we have that. you have to understand in georgia we have secure, accurate elections. at the end of the day i would like to talk to influential people, give them the facts, they want to come to our office, i'm more than happy to sit down with them. that's really important. past sb202, some of the major corporations, you know, located here in georgia would have called us before they started saying we think that stacey abrams is right about this because she was wrong about

everything she said about sb202. voter id has been used in minnesota for over ten years. now we are using photo id for absentee voting. so it's a mid western thing but makes sense, you're taking away just -- we have been sued by both political parties republicans and democrats. as an engineer i'm looking at a fact-base system and we have been working hard every day because i know that every vote matters because every voter matters. i want them to know that their vote counts. >> do you expect donald trump to contest the result in georgia if he loses to kamala harris, vice president harris and are you prepared for and can you tell us a little bit about how you're prepared for it if so, please? >> well, obviously this is not our first rodeo. stacey abrams lost by 55,000

votes in 2018. i get signed into office and we have about 10 or so lawsuits from that, pushed back with the facts. in 2020 we got it from my side and we pushed back with the facts. and so if people have questions at the end of the day we will be able to respond with fact-base but also we are going to have all 5 million paper ballots and we are going to be able to scan those and human readable text. we can do that by hand or we can do that with, you know, tech companies that we partnered with and be able to do that scan. you can check it and look at it and the paper ballot that we have, has security fibers and state seal on it so you know it's official ballot paper. it's not something that you got from a local office supply store. and so all those things that we've done are to build trust for voters. >> i'm looking at a story this week with my colleague tyler pager who covers the white house and the harris campaign about

how the harris campaign is prepared to -- to protect the vote against efforts to undermine popular result. they say they have a robust election protection as most campaigns do but they are also telling us that they are not worried, they talk, everyone is sort of on message talking about how the 2020 election was the most secure election in u.s. history and that they have no reason to believe that 2024 will be any different and i wonder if you can reflect on whether you agree with that outlook and, you know, if you're prepared in different ways to -- to combat sort of emergency scenarios in your state if -- if there are -- if there is a large scale

objection to the result. >> we are going to be prepared. obviously 2020 in the middle of a pandemic, it came off as it relates to election management, it came off well. people made short lines on election day in 2020. we have been working on that again. we will keep the lines short. less than one hour. the voter will have a good experience but we understand at the end of the day when the results get put up on the floor and look at the total, half of the people dancing in the street, half are going to be very disappointed. we want voters to have confidence in that and that's why we have all of the things that we put in place and make we check citizenship, clean voter list, we make sure that you have photo id for all forms of voting, keep lines shorter, everything we've done is to -- at the end of the day political parties could have observers

there. they can watch the process and they can actually understand what they are watching. we think that's really important. so we will be ready and we welcome, you know, that scrutiny. we tend to have a very open and transparent process because at the end of the day, i work for the voters. i want every voter to know that their vote was counted, counted accurately and hear what the results are. >> i want to try one more time, do you think that the harris campaign is being too lazy about the possibility for disruptions? >> well, i believe in the very best of my fellow georgians and i know at the end of the day they will accept the results, you know, out of our state and cause disruptions. we have seen it before and we will be prepared. but when we meet them in court, we win because we deal with the facts. i know that for half of the people it's going to be very disappointing and i understand that. we don't know which way the

election will go but our job every day is to make sure that we have fair, honest and accurate elections and that's what we have been working on inspied of a pandemic, we are going to be ready tomorrow. we have a great team in the state election's office, we also have great county election directors too. >> one of the moments four years ago that was -- that was troublesome i suppose is a good word for it was the meeting december 20, excuse me, decemben the electors who had been picked by the trump campaign met in the georgia state capital in atlanta despite that biden had been certified winner and biden electors shared by stacey abrams were meeting to cast electoral votes for joe biden. are there specific preparations underway for the meeting of the electors this year at the georgia state capital, are you worried about security or alternate electors as they were

known in 2020 and are you doing anything specificically about the meeting to have electoral college this year? >> no, that's not really in our lane. our lane is to report the results and point to certify it. we will recount any of those races within half percent. they'll be up to 3 counts on those ballots, everyone will know who won those races based on those results. what they do with the electors, i think, they probably realized that wasn't a good strategy but, you know, that's a different, you know, part to have process. my process to certify it and send it over to the governor's office and review it and he will be in that position, certify the results and that's when they'll have the election of the

electors here for georgia. >> as you know, hundreds of election administrators around the country have retired or quit since 2020 in part because of the absolute spike in threats and harassment that they've endured since donald trump began contesting the 2020 result. i wonder if you can talk a little bit about whether your counties in georgia have -- have been able to recruit sufficient numbers of poll workers to staff their polling locations and make sure the election is running smoothly and also what are you doing to protect their safety and security during election hours both early and on election day and what are you telling them in order to encourage them to feel safe in that environment? >> well, as it relates to manpower, by in charge we are in good shape. we have a few election directors. we work really strong on

training. our only concern is we have county election director where they are running a smaller county, 10,000 people and now in the county of a hundred thousand, it's just more complex, we work with those folks but we have worked hard, getting their counties ready, poll worker wise, we have been in good shape, hurricane helene did damage some of the poll worker homes and so the counties are making sure that they can have enough poll workers there. at the end to have day be in good shape on election day coming up in november. >> are you -- sorry. are you -- are you -- will there be law enforcement at polling locations, that's always viewed as double-edge sword because the balance of security and voter intimidation, is that an issue in georgia? >> regional table tops with law enforcement, so we've called in the county sheriff's department, local police departments, you

know, if they are more of urban-city type location and we've also brought in dhs, tbi, fbi and other organizations and role-playing, game playing, scenario strategies but also the poll workers, the poll managers all will have a tool, see something, say something, we will get notified and have panic button and if the situation looks like it's getting out of control, dangerous. by in large, many precincts will have a sheriffs vehicle posted out there, just sitting up there and they just sit there all day to let everyone know that law enforcement is here and just come in and join the process, vote for the person of your voice and, you know, smile and ready for the results to be posted on election night. >> okay, we have time for one more question and i'm going to ask you to be as brief as you

can although it's a big question. you are a life-long republican, self-described proud conservative. i believe you said publicly that you voted for donald trump in 2016 and 2020, i wonder the state of your party and if you want to tell us who you're voting for it and whether you're voting, i'd be happy to hear it? >> i think that the republican party at the end of the day will have long-term benefit from really leaning into integrity, character, just being a good honest, descent human being and really leading into being a public servant, elected public servant, we need people to do their job. build trust where it needs to be rebuilt and increase security where it needs to be increased and i will continue to do that. i think at the end of the day, that's what voters are looking for. honest person working hard for

them. >> thank you so much secretary, always a pleasure to chat with you, unfortunately we are out of time. thank you for joining us. we will have to leave it there and thanks to all of you for watching. if you are interested in watching more of these important conversations please sign up for washington post subscription, get a free trial by visiting washington post.com/live. i'm amy♪

governor walz: yeah!

wow. wow. hello again, neighbors. it's good to be home. [cheers and applause] can we all agree that small-town song it's most of us here? this is a state and a country that is willing to put their country above their politics. that's exactly what blaine did. not from nebraska. first of all, i've got to give a huge thank you, this state has

produced some of the best and most effective politicians like our former senator ben nelson. look, we got some elections coming up, as you know. i want to get thank you's to all those folks who run for office, but themselves and their families out there. [cheers and applause] i'm guessing we got a few folks here from lincoln, right? [cheers and applause] let's make sure we elect carol blood in that. [cheers and applause]

when kamala harris is president, which is happening here in 17 days -- [cheers and applause] we are going to need a congress that actually knows what work looks like for the american people. send tony martin and put democrats in charge. >> tony! tony! tony! governor walz: for all of you, to give you a point of personal privilege, today is pretty special to me. my big sister is here today in support, and i'm just led -- [cheers and applause] like all of us, most of our family is with us, so thank you.

i've got the crowd here, the valentines crowd and the alliance crowd, so thank you for that. every single one of you here, it's a beautiful day in october, 75°. you could have been anywhere. he chose to come here because you believe in the promise of america and you love this country, so thank you. if i could -- if i could, the blue dot that has taken over the country as they know what you're doing here, let me be clear what that symbolizes. this blue dot symbolizes democracy, decency, a woman's right to make her own choices. [cheers and applause] that's a lot more than politics.

it's about who we are as people. this state and this district are showing the rest of the country democracy will run right through it. [cheers and applause] do we have this? i thought donald trump might win bad in detroit. you do not want me dancing for 20 minutes like this do. somebody on his -- and explain the ymca song to him, to. 17 days until this election happens, folks. here we go. we are running because all of you are leaving it on the field, folks because, there is too much at risk. there is too much at risk. kamala and i, we are

barnstorming the country. i just saw as i walked in here, kamala harris' rally down in georgia had over 20,000 people show up. [cheers and applause] now, we are going to win georgia. last time, won it. we should call donald trump and ask him what we wanted by. i said, how great would it be if we won georgia by one vote, and it was jimmy carter's vote? we are on podcasts, on tv, doing rallies. the two of us are about one hit away from being regulars on fox news. you know what? it takes stamina to run for president. it takes a lot of stamina to be president. you might be asking yourself -- how in the hell does donald trump think he's going to do this?

i'm sure -- his handlers are being pretty clear, they got him under wraps if you have not seen this. donald's stick is old, tired, and divisive, just like him. he is refusing to debate kamala in a that he is refusing to face kamala in a debate again. can you blame him after the but looking he took less time -- he is refusing to face kamala in a debate again. can you blame him after the butt -whipping he took less time? to lie that's probably the smartest thing he's ever done. he is not up to this anymore, folks. he's not up to it, and we need to make that clear. but you know what? you need to be clear about this. they know this. but you know who stands waiting in the wings?

[crowd booing] if you don't know, and i'm sure most everyone here knows, there's something called the 25th amendment, and you can be damn chair jd vance has read the 25th him and. i know this guy is tired, but he is not nearly as tired as we are with his crap. but don't despair, he is never going to be president of the united states again. kamala harris is. she's offering a new way forward, not the same old tired, divisive, hateful stuff. she and i both grew up in middle-class families. we know that our economy works best when it is fair for everybody. and she's not just talking about it, she is laying out a concrete plan to make sure every single

person in this country benefits from this economy. 100 million americans will be a tax cut under kamala harris. [cheers and applause] taking on price scavengers and big pharma. those guys say there's no such thing as price gouging. anyone who knows going into florida, airline tickets skyrocketed when the hurricane came through. we had to pass a law in minnesota because we had a young man named alex. he turned 26 and went off his parents insurance. he could not afford his insulin and alex smith died over that. his mother said, i will be damp if another child dies -- i will

be damned if another child dies over insulin. a bottle insulin now costs $35. they were charging $800 for it. you know how much it costs to make it? five dollars. our economy works best when it works for everyone. many of you may not be there yet, but you start getting near to 60, you start paying attention to some hard things like care and social security -- really hard things. the plan is we get a majority, we pass this and sign into law medicare for our people. [cheers and applause] i'm glad to see young people here. they don't care about this, but some of us with less hair due care. also adding to medicare -- i think most people did not know this -- adding vision and

hearing to it. [cheers and applause] those of you that want to start small business, a $50,000 tax grant to get your foot in the door and get you started on the american dream. [applause] some of our largest corporations pay zero in federal tax. why not small businesses? that's what we are proposing. we talk about this in minnesota, and i know this being a nebraskan that you have it, too, but the saying is the economy works and we all do that are when we all do better. it is about an economy that is about fairness. it's about understanding workers and builders in the country should receive a fair wage, about understanding health care

should be a human right and that you should feel safe going home from work. those are the things we care about. [cheers and applause] donald trump and jd vance got a little vision -- a little different vision of how things go. we know what they will do. i want to give them credit because he has kept his word on a few things. they will gut and take away the affordable care act, kick you off if you have a pre-existing condition, stop your children from staying on your health insurance, drive up premiums, and make this country less healthy, sicker, and poorer. they will go after medicare, social security. it does not matter to him if he gets a social security check because he's down in mar-a-lago not paying taxes on $1 billion. it matters to my mom when she has to decide between drugs and

food for the house. there are people who say they don't like donald trump but like his policies. which ones are those? he is proposing a fine on traveling costs. that's economy saying that. china did not pay -- china will not pay the tariffs, you will pay the terrace. no more than mexico paid for a wall he did not build anyway. i have said this -- donald trump never keeps his word here that's not true. he does sometimes. he took those wealthy donors down to mar-a-lago and said who are rich as hell, and i'm going to give you a tax cut. he did it. he followed through. he also became the king of debt

and drove up the debt more than any other president in u.s. history. clear -- this guy knows nothing about business except how to go bankrupt. he knows nothing about paying his bills, and he knows nothing about the middle last. i think there's probably some of you here that are in the same place of this -- the republican party of old contributed much to this country. when the republican party of old talked about freedom, they meant it. that's not these guys. these guys mean that government should be re-to be in your exam room with your doctor. [crowd booing] they talk about small government. apparently small enough to in your bedroom with the people you are there with or in your library to tell you what to read. [crowd]

i got this from my friends in valentine and -- we respect our neighbors' choices. we don't have to agree with them. you do you, i will do me. that i thing we do. -- that's a thing we do. [cheers and applause] there is that golden rule -- do under others. -- do unto others. that's a good golden rule. i would add an addendum to that, too. there's a second golden rule, mind your own damn business. [cheers and applause] somebody said, you think donald trump knows the golden rule? and i said, yeah, those are the instructions he gave to his interior designer for instructions on his golden toilet or whatever the hell he put in. when kamala harris and i talk about freedom, we mean you should be free to live your life

the way you choose. your choice about your own health care decisions, about your own family, the freedom for seniors to retire with dignity by strengthening social security and medicare. [cheers and applause] and for all of us here and those who have little ones and those who have grandkids and just those that are just basic, decent human beings, the freedom to send our little ones dressed in their finest clothes off to a school to meet with a teacher and to be there and learned -- the freedom to do that without being shot dead in their classrooms. [cheers and applause] and this is nebraska and the folks who are here, you know and i know, i'm a gun owner. i am a veteran. i'm a hunter. kamala is a gun owner at the

same time. owning guns does not mean we cannot be for common sense solutions to protect our children. [cheers and applause] you can hold the second amendment while upholding our primary responsibility, the safety of our children and neighbors. [cheers and applause] this is where you take the notes for that family member that is not sure where they are voting -- isn't it interesting how both numbers of the democratic ticket are gun owners this year? but that god on the republican ticket cannot pass the background check to get one. [cheers and applause] -- that guy on the republican ticket cannot pass the background check to get one. you know, the 34 felonies that come.

i'm going to speak to part of the audience here, i am going to men on this one. there's a lot of you here. look, all of you, for the women in your life that you love -- your wives, daughters, mothers, wrens, all that, literally, their lives are on the line in this election, guys. that's what's on the line. donald trump appointed his supreme court justices who did exactly what he told them to do. they repealed the protections of roe v. wade, and he brags about it. he is glad that my daughter, your daughters, our wives have fewer rights than their mothers and grandmothers had. he brags about it. [crowd booing] 20 states including right here now have a trump abortion and -- ban. he calls that a beautiful thing. you are seeing. women getting denied care at

er's, having miscarriages in parking lots. women's names that should have never been known by americans because it is nobodies damn business what they do with their health care, but we now know them. the bravery of hadley devol who stand up to say when she was 12 years old, a child, raped and impregnated by her stepfather, and they told her and jd vance said that there should be no exceptions for rape and incest because he said two wrongs don't make a right. [crowd booing] there is not one thing right about what happened to hadley devol, and what they are doing makes it so much worse. it's bigger than that. the guys at project 2025 want to control contraception at fertility clinics, fertility clinics in states are trying to

close and turn couples away, couples who simply want to have a family and use those services. this is personal for me. again, you don't need to hear about my personal, but my wife and i have talked about it. for years, we try to have children, and it's because we could use fertility treatments that we have our dutiful family. [cheers and applause] -- a beautiful family. [cheers and applause] i'll be damned if any politician, especially donald trump and jd vance, should have anything to say about your access to health care and fertility treatment. when we take this congress -- when kamala harris is president and we codify roe v. wade, the protection of women to make their own decisions over their own bodies, kamala harris will sign it into law. [cheers and applause] i think we got to know, and i

get this, you have 17 days and in this amphitheater, i am preaching to the choir, but folks, our recital is 17 days away, and we need to hang loudly, so it's important to know what is on the others. if donald trump would be elected again, he would have the opportunity to appoint either two or three more supreme court justices during the next four years. [crowd booing] this is a group of folks who already told donald trump, "you have the immunity to do whatever the hell you want to do." these are the folks that will be making decisions about the laws in this country for our children and grandchildren's lifetime. they would have six of the nine supreme court justices and would have no accountability over donald trump. look, i know that's not the future you want for your family. it's not the one, so, look, there is a solution -- you and everyone you know vote for

kamala harris, and none of that will happen. [cheers and applause] we're not going back. >> not going back! were not going back! were not going back! we're not going back! we're not going back! governor walz: look, there is plenty of reasons the stakes in this election are really high, but let me give you one more. some of you might have heard -- and, look, people are overwhelmed by this. i run into people who say, i am just not that into politics. i'm tired of it. too damn bad, politics is into you. there are so many people who recall the trump term and do not recall that all our neighbors

were dying of covid because of his idiocy of neglecting science and telling people to inject bleach did not do as much good, but they tell us we could survive another four years. i'm an optimist, but you have heard me say this. i truly don't know if the institutions will hold if we get another four years of donald trump. i genuinely don't believe it. i say this because something has happened over the last few weeks that is unprecedented in our history. the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, top military officer in this country, decorated officer, he did not mince words. he told us on the record if donald trump, and this is a direct quote -- is fascist to the core and the most dangerous president america has ever faced. the guy is not a democrat, people. he is a lifelong military officer who served his country. this week, trump's own secretary

of defense endorsed that very view. he said donald trump was the most damaged person he had ever met in his life. trump's plan to seize unprecedented power for himself because the supreme court would give him the right to do that -- it's not hypothetical. once again, people say donald trump has no plan, he has the concept of a plan, he does have a plan called project 2025. some of you may know who this guy is, he was trump's national security advisor for a short time. his name was mike flynn. some of you don't know -- i hate to encourage you to look this guy up, but it is important to know, trump said he would have a top role in ex-white house. this last week, mike flynn was

asked -- think about this, this is america, not some regional place -- he was asked if he would military tribunals to carry out executions against those who were against donald trump if trump were to win. that's what he was asked. the answer to that is are you out of your god-damned mind? you know who he's talking about? he's talking about me. don't kid yourself about this. when they are done with me, he is talking about you. that's who they are talking about, because you had the audacity as an american to come and express your political views in a safe and nonviolent manner. countless people fought and gave their lives for us to be able to do this.

[cheers and applause] >> usa! usa! usa! governor walz: that is exactly right. that's exactly right. i will be damned if i will get the flag to a fascist like these guys, and i will be dammed if i will give them family issues. we are not going to give them read him, that is for damn sure, because we know where freedom looks like. and i'm not giving them football because they don't know cap. the donald trump 2016 is not the donald trump that's running now. he is far more unfit than he was in 2016. he is more deranged. he is more desperate to stay out of prison that he was in 2016.

and he made sure there no guard rails. when i asked jd vance a simple question in the debate donald trump is the election, he would not answer it. he answered this week -- no, he did not lose the election. if jd vance had been sitting where my aunts was sitting, they would have overthrown the election of the government of the united states. there is a word for that. it's called trader -- traitor. just so we know. you know it here and joni vargas knows it. god knows the spineless republicans in congress will not do a damn thing to stop him. there's one way we stop this from happening. we came here with the courage, democrats, independents, republicans across this state -- [cheers and applause] think about it. think about it. you tell me how bad donald trump

is that he brought bernie sanders, dick cheney, and, for christ sake, taylor swift onto the same ticket. look, folks, we do this the right way. we do with the american way. we get organized, make the phone calls, do the door knocks, and we clean his clock on election day and win this. [cheers and applause] so, 17 days, folks. we are still the underdogs. it still a race. we are leaving at all on the field. return your mail ballot today if you have one. [cheers and applause] don't wait. you can vote early at york county election office monday through friday. be sure to bring a photo id, nebraskans. if you are not registered, you have until october 25.

you can register in person. you can vote at the same time. if you want more, iwillvote.com/ne. when you the door knocks, the phone calls. one or two extra votes per precinct could make a difference, and you know that. i know we ask much. if you got a little, you can go to, lynnharris.com and done it a couple bucks. it puts one more add on facebook, puts poll workers at election places. i have to tell you -- i think all of you know this -- this thing is going to be close. the blue wall is going to hold. michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania. [cheers and applause] but, you do the math -- wisconsin, minnesota, michigan,

the rest of the state, 269. one dot makes the difference. [cheers and applause] look -- >> luke. -- blue dot! blue dot! blue dot! governor walz: you inspire the rest of the country because you believe in democracy, you believe in freedom. we are going to end on the right. the vice president, she talks about when we fight -- >> we win! governor walz: when we vote -- >> we win! governor walz: omaha, put us over the top. let's go! [cheers and applause]

♪ >> ♪ i was born in a small town probably done in a small town -- probably die in a small town all my friends are so small town my parents live in the same small town my job is so small town provides little opportunity, hey educated in a small town taught the fear of jesus in a small town use to day dream in that small town another boring romantic, that is me

but i've seen it all in a small town had myself a ball in a small town married and l.a. dahl and brought her to this small town now she's small town just like me no, i cannot forget from where it is that i come from i cannot forget the people who love me yeah, i can be myself here in this small town and people maybe just what i want to be ooh, yeah ♪

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