♪ host: good morning. it is thursday, october 24. up all about stress in america.

the found the most commonly reported sources of stress centered on the election or were political in nature. the most common source of stress reported by 77% was about the future of our nation. we want to hear from you. as the campaign stressing you out? have election politics damaged any relationships? (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 free democrats. -- for democrats. (202) 748-8002 for independents. you can text us at (202) 748-8003 . you can post your comments on social media. facebook.com/cspan and x at @cspanwj. looking to washington journal. last night vice president harris held a town hall on cnn.

former president trump was in georgia campaigning. we will show you portions of that. take a look at this from npr.org. a divided country agrees the election is stressing everyone out. it says every year the american psychological association looks at leading causes of stress in the u.s. and publishes a report. this year the report shows all the usual suspects like money, health, family wearing people down. one issue is dominating, politics. seven out of 10 adults say the future of the nation is a significant source of stress in their lives and the issue crosses party lines. 80% of republicans rated it a top stressor. 79% of deats an73% of independents. let's look at some of the numbers from the report. 41% reported the state of the nation has made them conside moving to a different country.

39the political environment in their state has made them consider moving to a different state. 64% feel their rights are u attack. 82% worry people may be basing their values and opinions on false or inaccurate information. 32% sapolitical climate has caused strain between them and family members. 61% feel hopeful about the change this election will bring. that was 61%. 59% are hopeful the election will lead to a more inclusive society. 77% say they intend to vote in e presidential election. 51% feel compelled to volunteer or support causes they value. we will take your calls on that topic let's look at a portion of vice president harris speaking to voters in pennsylvania at the

cnn town hall. [video] >> understand what could happen of donald trump were back in the white house. this time we must take very seriously those folks who knew him best and who were career people that are not going to be there to hold him back. donald trump in the oval office, in the situation room. he who has openly admired dictators. said he would be a dictator on day one. his former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff said he is a fascist to the core. i think when the american people reflect, especially those undecided, upon who you should listen to, don't take my word for it. listen to john kelly, his voice, talking about what he thinks of donald trump two weeks before the election. i think we all know to your point, anderson, it is close. there are undecided voters who

clearly by being here have an open mind, want to talk in a way that is about grounded -- that is grounded in issues and facts. when they hear these facts i think it compels a lot of people to be concerned about the future of our country with donald trump at the lead. >> >> you quoted general milley calling him a fascist. if you have not used that word to describe him. do you think donald trump is a fascist? >> yes, i do. i also believe the people who know him best on this subject should be trusted. again, look at their careers. these are not people -- with the exception of only mike pence, these were not politicians. these are career people who served at the highest roles and national security. served as generals in our military. were highly respected. talking about the person who would be commander-in-chief. not to mention what we know and

what they have told us about how he talks about the military. servicemen and women. referring to the mess suckers and losers. -- to them as suckers and losers. host: that was last night. former president trump responded to those comments by general kelly on his true social account. "thank you for your support against a total generate named john kelly who made up the story out of pure derangement syndrome hatred. this guy had two qualities which don't work well together. he was tough and dumb. the problem is is toughness more into weakness because he became jell-o with time. the story about the soldiers was a lie, as are numerous other stories he told. even though i shouldn't be wasting my time with him, i always feel it is necessary to hit back and pursued -- in pursuit of the truth. john kelly is a lowlife and about general whose advice in the white house i no longer sought and told him to move on.

" we will start with dee in austin, texas. democrat. caller: good morning. i definitely want to answer the question about whether or not i'm personally stressed out. i want to do it through the lens of my experience as a civilian public affairs serving overseas for more than a decade. with the military. there is a thing called softening the target. what you do is you go in and you drop as many bombs as possible before you send in the ground troops. i am likening this to our emotional state. one of the things fascists need to do is confuse the people, stress them out and short out there emotional ability to handle atrocity.

that is what is happening now. making people question what is true and what is not true. making people doubt their neighbor. all this is part of a playbook. the best advice i can give to my fellow americans who care about democracy, and i know we are in the majority, is to remember that the way to beat a fascist is to hold on to what you know is true, even in the face of the feeling that things are slipping away. it is an allusion. it is not -- illusion. we are americans. we can do this. we have to believe and understand that there playbook t -- their playbook requires us to participate. if we don't do that, they cannot win. that is my response to the

stress. yes, it is stress but it is induced stress on purpose. they want this to happen and we don't have to let it happen. host: here is ron in michigan, republican. caller: good morning. i'm not stressed out. i'm concerned that we have a fair and honest election, because our vote should matter. nobody should be able to silence you on either side. these continuous lies that the former cabinet staff tell -- if they were such good people donald trump would not have fired them. they did not do the job he wanted. they wanted their own agenda. they were the swamp.

everybody can have their opinion. i have mine. i'm voting for trump. anybody that once a free and fair election should vote for trump also. thank you for your time. host: kevin in akron, ohio. independent. caller: i have been wanted to call the station for a long time. i appreciate you having me on. i'm from northeast ohio. i'm a physician in the area. i wanted to talk about the human condition. i'm a physician and also a person of faith. i am a believer and follower of jesus christ. i think it's important for us to take a step back when this happens every four years or during congressional races. we get so animated in this country. it is great people are

passionate about who they are voting for. for me, what keeps me stress-free or reduces my stress where we have so many opposing views are thinking about absolute truth. the great theologian karl bar se 70 muscle the bible in one hand and the newspaper in the other so we have an absolute standard. if you don't, that can lead us into all kinds of different directions. i know as human beings we all fall short of the glory of god. we have to keep that in mind. we have to keep in mind that we will fail. leaders are going to fail us. we have to be able to trust in the lord to be able to reduce our stress. host: does your faith inform your vote? do you consider it separate? caller: it absolutely doesn't for my vote.

host: in what way? caller: for me it is difficult. i'm an independent. i am pro-life. i'm pro-life from womb to tomb. every life matters, from conception to a dying patient. no single party covers both of them. there are issues with both parties. for me it starts with conception and i move on from there. i'm talking about loving people. i'm talking about loving the child in the womb. loving the mothers. i'm talking about everyone that's involved. i'm talking about families, society as a whole. i'm focused on loving people as i love myself. the golden rule. that is what i focus on. host: let's talk to oliver in

falls church, virginia. independent. oliver, are you there? caller: mimi, good morning. host: you are on the air. caller: thank you, sweetheart. i have been for the last two months staying away from c-span. i will explain to you why. because of the amount of calls that come to -- the americans that call in. many have not had coffee yet. the amount of americans that call in and make excuses for donald trump has made me sick to my stomach. donald trump is a man that is trying to divide the american people so i guess he wants to be the president of white people. he doesn't want to be the

president of hispanics or blacks. those people he's definitely hard on. it comes from a background in new york where he would not rent to blacks. they had to take him to court. him and his father. if that doesn't give you a clue on where this gentleman stands in his mind about america, a country of different races, different religions and everybody trust of pull together to keep this country number one in the world. that is why am so proud of being an american. i am 71 years old. i'm going to tell you a story real quick about donald trump as a democrat. barack -- i had a heart attack in 2004. i was in a housing program in

northern virginia. my rent went up under barack obama -- not under barack obama, not under joe biden. but donald trump and carson who was running the housing program for him raised my rent $50 on a fixed income. they did not think twice about it. barack obama, joe biden, did not raise my rent a penny. that lets me know donald trump cares nothing. they go and look at bob woodward's book, "war." it tells you how prejudiced and dangerous donald trump is. the stories that are coming out now don't surprise me a bit. the way he looks at the world in color. host: oliver, here is part of the report.

the percentage who feel as though their rights are under attack. this is broken out by race. here we have the highest percentage of people who feel their rights are under attack are white adults. followed by very closely black adults at 55%. latino adults at 55%. asian adult ed 52%. -- adults at 52%. the highest are those that it identified -- those that identify at lgbtq at 74%. carl in houston. democrat. caller: how are you doing? host: good. caller: this election is a little more stressful than normal for several reasons. one, i have been voting democrat for a long, long time. all of a sudden -- i'm

african-american. it seems like -- all of a sudden i become the worst thing that ever happened to the democrats that i have been loyal to for eons. since the beginning of time. all of a sudden the democrats feel they can treat black men and whatever they want to black men and we are supposed to keep voting for them. we have been getting scare tactics. when we voted for joe biden, the world is coming to an end. we voted for barack obama. if you don't vote for them, the world is coming to an end. to be honest i'm tired of it. i'm tired of it.

through all of that, to the most faithful voting bloc of people in the democratic party they go out there way to disrespect us in 100% of the ways. nothing we can direct for the democratic party so why keep voting for them? they tend to forget about us. four years later, here comes barack obama after we voted for this man eight years. he did nothing for the black community. we voted for joe biden. barack obama had a super majority in the house and senate and did nothing. yet people tell us we don't know what we are doing. to be quite honest, i'm not going to vote for kamala.

i'm not comfortable with her. i don't care she's a woman or whatever. she does not represent authority. she does not -- there's something about her that says she's not capable of making decisions on her own. she can't even stand up to a teleprompter. she wants to run the world. host: are you going to be voted for former president trump? caller: no. i'll vote for jill stein. host: is she on the ballot in texas? caller: i don't know but i will write her in. i'm deathly not voting for -- definitely not voting for people for genocide. i can't do it. my heart and soul won't allow me to do it. my vote in texas won't really be -- there's no way i can vote for

her and any party acting like genocide is nothing. killing thousands of babies is nothing. host: we have to move on. i want to show a portion from former president trump's rally at the believers and ballots town hall -- it was a town hall in georgia yesterday. [video] >> you have been one of the most vilified individuals in american history. they have tried to assassinate you twice. they shot you one time. they have absolutely vilified and the media for almost a decade now. particularly in the last three years. every hour on the day. how do you lean into your faith and your family to deal with this? i don't think anybody else could handle it the way you have for the past decade. >> faith. when you have faith and believe in god, it is a big advantage

over people that don't have that. it is a big advantage. [applause] when you have a great family -- my son eric is with us. he's been great. we have such a great family and such a strong backing. melania, the first lady has been great. the number one best-selling book. go buy the book. i will say this. i have been investigated more than any human being i suspect in the history of our country. more than alfonse capone. al capone was the gangster of all gangsters. scarface. i have been investigated more than scarface. my father is looking down from heaven. i think my father is in heaven. i know my mother is in heaven. [laughter] my father was great. he was a strong guy but a great guy. i have been. it makes you stronger. the fact that i had such backing from the public.

the scoundrels came after me at a level -- it is called election interference. it is the weaponization of the doj. they were all coming. we will get things turned around in this country. it is so bad. they don't do that except in third world countries. nobody thought it was possible. nobody thought it was even possible. they used the talk about it before the stuff happened and said it would never happen because it's never happened before. think of the scoundrels in office right now. it did not happen to them. i want to thank you for your support. it actually made me more popular. host: we are getting -- taking your calls this morning on are you stressed out about the election, about the campaign? we have this on facebook. bob says not stressed. concerned would be a better word. we will be glad when the ads stop. all i can do now is vote. donna says, no. i will sleep like a baby. i do well because of me, not

some politician. tammy says, with women's reproducve rights being reversed i'm more anxious than normal times. th is not equal rights under our constitution. kim says it is definitely a stressful ti. some people have aho fuse, a tolerance lel en talking about politics. there is so much division and strife. i don't eagin the discussion of politics as a preventative measure. i pray for this nation and give it to god. edward in alexandria, virginia. independent. caller: hi. give me a second here. apropos of general kelly's remarks and vice president harris's agreement with it about trump being a fascist, there's a difficulty with outward.

it's a long time epithet. basically vague. what can be said is a matter of fact. several things. you talking about a man who is clearly a liar, and adulterer, a bigot. in particular a convicted felon who has badmouthed our heroes and our veterans in general. none of that was said last night. maybe because it has been said so many times. i'm not saying anything new. those are things, the basic facts about this guy. host: you know this facts are disputed. former president trump said he never disrespected service members. he said all the trials and the

convictions against him are politically motivated. what would you say to that? caller: if nothing else i would say on the matter of his conviction, he was tried and convicted by a jury of his peers, like any other american. you can't ignore that it seems to me. his reputations are fabricated for the most part. this is on the record. he may dispute it. others may dispute it on his side but the facts don't support them. host: i want to ask when were thing because you live in the d.c. area. this report says that more than seven in 10 adults, 72%, are worried the election results

could lead to violence. are you part of that group? are you worried that there could be violence this time? caller: i think it is a possibility. i hope it is not a probability. a lot of folks are deluded about the realities we are confronting. it is hard to tell. i would think a lesson was learned in relation to january 6 and hopefully we would not get that kind of eventuality. it is hard to say. this is part of the record. i don't know. i hope not. host: ken, a republican in florida. caller: thanks for taking the call. i wanted to respond.

you have to never that kelly was fired by president trump. whatever he says, i don't have a lot of confidence in. one of the reasons he was fired was because he was acting like a dictator in the white house. he was not allowing some of the people that wanted to talk to trump in the office. that was part of the whole conflagration. trump is actually -- absolutely not a dictator or fascist. nobody would acknowledge but trump has tried to reduce rules and regulations. no dictator would reduce rules and regulations. they would add to them but trump is trying to -- and has in the past reduced them. i don't know where that fascist even can be originated. same for authoritarian, totalitarian, any of the governments add rules. they don't delete them like trump did. as far as democracy goes, that

is phony fiction. it was probably tested or something by democrats to destroy trump's reputation. host: i wanted to show the definition according to merriam-webster about fascism. "fascism is a populist political philosophy movement or region -- aubergine such as that -- or regime that exalts a nation and often a race above the individual that's associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader. that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition." let's talk to paul. jamaica, new york. democrat. caller: good morning, mimi. can you hear me?

yes, from new york. host: go ahead, paul. caller: i'm not stressed. i'm just concerned no matter what former president trump does he seems to have a gallery of people that can rationalize. he was just joking. it's a game. i can't wait until election day so we can remove him from the scene. host: here is james in oklahoma, a republican. hi james. caller: hello? host: we are here. caller: yes ma'am. one thing about the generals, i'm almost 80 years old. 50 years working for the government. retired military. to me, i have seen a lot of good generals and a lot of bad generals. some of the comments made

yesterday were very untrue about trump. seeing some of the generals and how they do, somewhere great. i served under some of the great ones from vietnam all the way through. yeah, it stresses me out. i think between trump and god we have to bring this country back together. host: do you believe general kelly was lying about the comments he quoted mr. trump as saying as positive of hitler, saying that hitler did good things and he wishes he had hitler's generals? caller: i think he was lying. i'm not saying what was said -- people say a lot of things and mean a lot of different things.

i think everything has been taken out of context. to me it really upsets me that our government and our military has become what it has been. we have seen it in the last -- even from the pulling out of afghanistan with miller. they should have fired him from the get-go. host: let's talk to robert from newfoundland, pennsylvania. independent line. caller: how are you? host:. . --host: great. caller: i don't really care who wins the election. if it is trump art kamala harris -- or kamala harris. trump got his votes and the nomination. joe biden, pelosi and schumer and all them actually just pushed joe biden to the side like trash. john kelly.

he's got an ax to grind. he's going to say what is going to say about donald trump. listen, you have a lot of people on from virginia and pennsylvania and all over the country. most of them are right. donald trump cheats on his wife. he says things that are not true. there's a lot of fact checking. izzy hitler -- is he hitler? no. hitler killed 6 million jews. the trump do that, honestly? whoever gets into the -- host: i do think anybody is saying he is hitler. general kelly says he spoke admiring of hitler and wishing he had his generals. caller: where is that on record? is there a record of that?

is there a comment of that or statement of that? my wife is a journalist and writer. where is that on record? i have not seen it on cnn and i watch cnn. i watch morning joe even though i don't like him. i still watch and. -- watch him. host: you said you don't care who wins. are you voting this election? caller: i'm voting. if kamala harris wins i will make t-shirts up in america will go like venezuela. joe biden, kamala harris, pelosi. the whole democratic party is not like the 1970's and 1980's democratic party. they were more like a bill clinton kind of conservative. my wife is democrat. i have voted republican most of my life. i'm 58 years old. my wife is 73 years old. we are homeless right now. my wife is in a hospital bed.

this is the america that is not going to work in the future. we are paying immigrants that are illegal here in this country. my wife can't get medicaid. we are paying. she laughs about it because she was the best prosecutor. this is a real fact. her husband actually had se with the nanny. i real fact issue put more black men in jail back when she was a prosecutor for marijuana that is the real fact. donald trump might be the cheater of a husband and says things that are way out of context and i don't approve of that -- i'm a christian. i was better off four years ago.

i will leave you with that. host: matt in new york, republican. caller: good morning. i don't know if i should claim to be so stressed. what i am bothered by is all the misinformation that is out there. it is totally ridiculous. i'm originally from central pennsylvania. on occasion i go back to central pennsylvania, which i did this weekend. going through the williamsport area there is a large construction project that was just completed recently. a big bypass. the people that are from that area know what i'm talking about. it has relieved congestion at the bottleneck. i heard an ad by the democrats claiming that was done because of joe biden and kamala harris,

which is a total lie. like i said, i have been traveling there for years. that whole project was started by donald trump. the money was allocated back then by donald trump. yet they just have been out an outline. that is -- out and out lie. that is the problem with misinformation out there like with cbs leading that story about donald trump defaming this mexican-american woman that was in the service and got killed and claimed -- it was reported by the atlantic that she was upset about the cost of the funeral for some mexican. the family of that woman immediately came out and protested vigorously that it is a total lie. that doesn't stop cbs. that does not stop cnn and

msnbc, abc, all of them from being propaganda machines for the democrats. yes, donald trump has said some whoppers and heat is fact -- he is fact checked constantly. we have the same fact checking with harris? no. whatever she says, that's fine. that is the problem. the washington post -- i love the little banner thing. it says democracy dies in darkness, yet they are part of the darkness because they are no longer informing people. them and the new york times and a lot of these just turned into propaganda machines. host: this is what matt was talking about. this is from nbc news. trump's reported racist insult about mexican amick and soldier draws bitter backlash and staunch denials. it says the electric made the remarks about the slain soldier

and a discussion with staff members about the cost of her funeral. it says it is drawing backlash from some hispanics but could be tempered by her sister's support for trump and the current political divide among latinos. the lytic magazine reported that trump one president complained about the cost of paying for her funeral as he had promised her family he would do in a meeting at the white house in july of 2020. citing two unnamed sources who attended a december 2020 meeting and notes on the meeting when he was told the $60,000 price tag, responded, "it does not cost 6000 buck to bury a blanking mexican." he told mark meadows not to pay for it. nbc news has not confirmed the atlantic's reporting. it said meadows and the trump campaign spokesman denied he

made such a comment. it says that the sister who was not at the white house meeting at which trump was alleged to have made the comment came to his defense on x. "i like don't appreciate how you are exploiting my sister's death or politics, to the important changes she made for service numbers, president donald trump did nothing but show respect to my family and vanessa. i voted for president trump today." omar in new york, independent. caller: good morning america. good morning foundational black america. we have to change this philosopher as calling black people african-american. we are changing that. i think the election is always stressful, especially from the black perspective of foundational black american perspective. i could not get through on monday when you guys had a

discussion for just black men. i was sad to hear that nobody represented the foundational black american point of view. the different points of view that they were great. every election cycle, whoever is on the ballot, they always try to come to the black american people for our vote every year. at the end of the election they are quiet. they are not saying anything but they want us to vote for what they are talking about. i always skip over what we are talking about. foundational black americans, especially black men that are using the election as power and using their vote as power, we want reparations. that is the only thing on the ballot. each side knows that. donald trump knows that and kamala harris knows that. they are not talking about that. they are talking about what they want to talk about and try to give us and make it seem like

that is the only thing we want to talk about. we know those other things are important. the only thing that needs to be done is reparations for the people who built this country, our people, the foundational black americans. host: here is lucy on facebook who says, "no matter the election outcome i have got to treat all voters and nonvoters with civility. i have to drive carefully and them a distraction throughout the day in order to do quality work i haveke the most of my own life no matters in the white house. th includes being kind to my neighbors, giving back to my community and respecting natural environment we share with beneficial wildlife. i do not want to live through others." here is ken on facebook. "i'm stressed over the prpects of four more years of the dilous leadership currently in place. i'm hopeful the american people will make the right choice for change. my stress level is five because it is so close." here is john.

"yes, there isomstress. anyone not stressed is not paying attenti. i'm cautiously optisc that sanity will prevail and ericans still appreciate our constitution and democra enough to flush twice on trump's ongoing foolishness." here is more from that town hall yesterday at cnn with vice president harris. [video] >> it is the case in the united states of america that billionaires on average pay less taxes as a percentage than teachers and firefighters and nurses. >> hard workers. >> i understand what let's set the scene. when i say the richest among us need to pay their fair share, i'm referencing that. i need to reference that because sadly, donald trump one president gave tax cuts to the

richest, to billionaires and big corporations which added trillions of dollars to our deficit. sadly, it needs to be said in a way that should be obvious to your point but is not given what he did. in terms of what we need to do to bring down taxes, i have pledged and have a plan for a middle-class tax cut that would affect 100 million americans, including what we will do around small businesses. in terms of tax deductions, in terms of what small businesses are now being mired in in terms of a bureaucracy. they have to fill out and do their taxes in a way that actually holds them back. part of my plan includes extending a middle-class tax cut that would include a $6,000 tax cut, essentially a child tax credit for parents and young parents in particular. knowing the vast majority of parents, natural desire to parent their children well but don't have the resources.

this will include an extra amount of money that people can use to pay for child care, which is far too extensive for too many working families. part of the issue is this. we cannot -- i will not raise taxes on anyone making less than $400,000 a year. we do need to take seriously the system that benefits the richest and does not help out working middle-class americans. i come from the middle class and i believe the middle class needs tax breaks to be able to actually not just get by but get ahead. host: another 15 minutes left in the segment to take your calls. pete in trenton, new jersey. democrat. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. i'm not stressed out but i want to say -- excuse me -- i would like it if you put of the tax

chart that they had this morning on the news where the low income tax people would pay no more than $2000 a year. trump would charges $4000. could you put the chart up? host: we will look for it, pete. go ahead and say what you wanted to say about it. caller: i'm saying that it doesn't make sense where trump is giving the rich all these tax breaks. that is all i wanted to say. thank you very much. host: i think i might have what pete was talking about here on cbs.

we will look for it and put it up for you once we do. christine. perry, michigan. independent line. caller: i'm not too stressed out by the grace of god. i can't believe how they bully this man, president trump. it's been since 2016 they started. the whole four years he got a lot done for us. they just keep criticizing him. i don't like his language sometimes but he's not a normal politician. he's not a politic. he is trying to make this country good again. all i know is i could afford to go get gas, eggs. i can't get nothing now. thank goodness for the food banks. i just can't believe how they

keep putting him down and saying he's the one that caused all this trouble. it started back with maxine waters trying to tell people. they never bring that up. it is always his fault. maybe by the grace of god, you know, he will get back in there and get turned around. host: pete asked for the new tax bracket. this is from cbs news. the headline says the irs announced its new 2020 five tax bracket. here is what is --2025 tax brackets. the new inflation-adjusted tax brackets for 2025, annual income threshold arriving -- arising about 220%. here is the -- 2.8%. here is the chart for single filers tax bracket. it is kind of small.

here is the percentages and here is the change from 2024 to 2025. you can look at that at cbsnews s.com. host: richard. caller: thank you for taking my call. i wanted to say couple of things. i will say as much as you allow. i am so stressed out. i wanted to tell people i wife is not so stressed out. she grew up under the dictator franco in spain. she has dual citizenship and is a legal immigrant. went through the whole process. we live adjacent to the marine base. i have had more than a couple of my retired marine corps friends and others around here get drunk

and become belligerent about this election. it is unbelievable. i'm not friends with those people anymore. i don't believe in belligerence. it is not cool. what we have in this country is a case of she said, he said, she said. going back and forth. a lot of people get lit up by that stuff. a couple of famous history pieces now. benjamin franklin famously said in 1778 i believe it was that what we have here is a republic if you can keep it. if you can keep it. he did not agree completely with all the working of the constitution, the various freedoms. there was a risk of being overcome by our own freedoms. martin luther king, famous man. he said the most -- the most two dangerous things in the world

are conscientious stupidity. he was right. there are 70 people now who are -- so many people who are choosing and picking what to believe in and what the facts are. the facts remain the facts. they are finding ways to say that this person is wrong, that person is wrong if it does not fit their particular agenda. i would not dare put democrat signs in my yard because everybody here has got guns. there are people here committing heinous crimes these days with firearms. it needs to be changed. nonetheless, we are in political armageddon here. i'm preparing to leave the country with my dual citizenship wife if necessary. i'm so stressed i want to sell all my assets, take my money and leave. i fear a big fight. january 6 was only a small

example of what could happen. that was a trump rally. that was not a biden rally. that was not a democrat rally. that was a trump rally. it pales in the face of the rally that could happen if this guy trump windsor does not win -- trump wins or does not win. trump rhymes with chump. don't be a trump jump. p chump. host: michael. caller: it would be the first time in over 15 to 16 years i did not vote early. we have been voted early for a week now here in johnston county, north carolina. i have not even voted early, because i have never voted for a

democratic president before to be honest with you. i don't know if i can. i don't know if i can't afford not to. i'm still undecided. host: michael, you don't have very much time left. caller: actually i don't. i have always voted the first day of early voting for a long time, like i was saying over 15-16 years. it's always been mostly republican with a few democrats. i just am going to use all the time i have. i'm not going to vote on the last day because i think there will be some issues with a large turnout. i'm going to get over there probably within the next few days. host: what is going to put you over the top. is there something you're still inking about? -- thinking about? caller: i can remember in one election where george w.

had a dwi come out a month or just weeks before his general election for president. there's always a bombshell. host: you are waiting for a bombshell? caller: yes, i think there will be a bombshell media report on one of the candidates for president. host: i remember you told me before you were no longer a trump supporter after january 6 -- because of january 6. caller: that is true. but you have to move her that biden was doing so poorly -- remember that biden was doing so poorly cognitively that i said i will have to vote for trump. i begin to listen to trump at rallies. i begin to pay more attention. when the democrat convention was held there was a big bump for the vice president. not a little one. it was a big bump in the polls.

i begin to feel better about that. i have no idea. i probably won't tell anyone which way i voted. host: do not even going to tell us? caller: i can't. host: as far as your family, your close friends, has this election caused any friction there for you? caller: no ma'am, it hasn't. it has not caused friction because i'm a lifelong republican and people probably just assume the way i will vote. host: you don't talk about it with your close friends? caller: i have with one family member and that was it. it was a close friend of mine that is my uncle. he's a big trump supporter. i had a kind of let him talk and not say much of listen to what he thinks. as far as he goes, he feels like

the trump has always loved america and loved his country. i had to hear that recently. it is tough here in north carolina. a lot of trump supporters. it is a tossup state once again. host: are you married? caller: no, i'm not and i never had any children. i live alone. i'm on a fixed income. i will be turning 50 this saturday. host: happy birthday. caller: yes, it is october 26. i'm a halloween baby. i have been very emotional because of getting older and the election had cause more stress. we are all getting older. the bright spot of the whole idea is that the stock market, the new york stock exchange is rolling with all power going forward. i think that the big traders and

little traders will be satisfied to matter who is president. they will do the right things for the economy. people have 401k's. everyone is concerned with how their business is going to go, the dividends. it looks pretty positive for either president so that is a bonus. host: call us in a month and let us know how you are doing. matt, maryland, democrat. good morning. caller: how are you doing today? host: i would like to -- host: good. caller: i remember when this was an issue as to what harris would say about trump and his stability. this would have been something we would have been hearing about for weeks had been further behind the election day.

also, please people that don't believe this is -- that believe this is all hearsay, all they have to do is go online where trump is saying to a host he would be a dictator, which he said the first day. who would want him for one day anyway? who would give up that kind of power? especially trump. i think the media has been very unfair as to trump's mental imbalance and biden's minor problem with whatever it is he has. nonetheless, i think that c-span has been biased in protecting trump. that is all i want to say. host: bill from columbia, maryland. independent. caller: good morning, mimi.

good morning to your audience. i am stressed to a certain extent. i have four children and four grandchildren. i worry about their future. the way i view it is the democratic party has been hijacked by hard-core leftists who will go to any lengths to take over this country and turn it into what they want. i view biden is nothing more than a puppet. i think of kamala gets in it will be a continuation of the same effort as barack obama to fundamentally transform america and turned it into a country that is not a place where we want to live anymore. from that standpoint i am worried. if you look at what the

communists have done, what authoritarians have done around the globe like in venezuela, how they destroyed venezuela and how they take over, the playbook is there. they have media domination. they dominate the media. they are trying to censor through the online sensor. they have control of the universities and through the public schools. they propagandize their message from an early age. now they have gone and resorted to the tactics of the left which are to try to keep trump off the ballot. they did the loft to try to lock him out. -- perhaps directly or indirectly they are trying to assassinate the man.

host: let's try to get mark in'n ocean city, maryland, republican. caller: good morning. talking about the stress level, i am very much distressed, not only with the divisiveness at every level and it doesn't matter if you're talking about one race or another or men versus women or wealthy against middle-class. we just saw that little clip you showed of kamala harris showing about the wealthy not peering -- paying their fair share. what is that fair share? please tell me because you can find statistics, the top 1% of wage earners pay half of the texas the irs collects.

-- half of the taxes the irs collects. something extraordinary like 80% or 90% goes into the irs. so if that is enough, how much is enough? i am not rich. i just retired recently and i am on a fixed income. but i hate hearing these half-truths all the time and pitting whatever group against the other. host: that is all the time we have for this segment. after the break, the battleground state series with the focus on nevada and how it could swing the presidential election. first up is jessica hill, politics reporter. and later, a political science professor of the truck he met a community college in reno.

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>> "washington journal" continues. host: welcome back to "washington journal." all this week we are focusing on battleground states that will decide this 's presidential en and we are examining what has changed since 2020 along with the issues and political trends that will motivate voters on election day. we are looking at the state of nevada with jessica hill, politics reporter for the las vegas review journal. she joins us now. good morning. guest: good morning. host: what do the polls show about nevada and what it is looking like for the election? guest: in nevada, the polls are close and neck and neck. some put harris ahead and some put trump ahead. with the margin of error it is a dead heat and could go either way. we will see how it goes on

november 5. host: your paper it says that over 180,000 voted so far in the 2024 election. what kind of number is that? what does that look like compared to other elections? guest: 6% of the total registered voters, so a lot. we have a two week early voting period until november 1. it is not a significant portion of the voter base yet but it will be interesting to see what the turnout will be. host: the article says that of those who have voted, nearly 32,300 were republican, 19,000 were democrats, 13,000 nonpartisan or from another party. what do those numbers indicate to you? guest: what is interesting is republicans usually turn out on

election day but there has been a shift in messaging from the republican parter -- party and the campaign from the previous message that said only go out on election date, alluding to fraud in the early mailing and this year they changed the message saying by any means, go out and vote. people are seeing that shift in messaging take effect with more republicans turning out to vote. it is hard to take any significance from the numbers yet. we see more democrats vote by mail and this your for the first time republicans are voting early. host: talk about the state as far as the trends among voters. when did nevada become a swing state and why is it a swing state? guest: nevada is usually pretty accurate in predicting who will

be the next president. when nevada chooses a presidential candidate it usually ends up being that person going to the white house. only two occasions have we not picked the winner and that was with gerald ford and hillary clinton in 2016. we have a pretty long track record of picking the president. we have political parties, split ticket voting also. a lot of voters tend to vote, not only with the parties but also vote with personality and a specific issue the candidate is doing better with. so you see a lot on the voting records. in 2022, we sought a democrat win and also a republican candidate, joe lombardo and that

shows how close the races can be and how we are a little more dynamic. host: what are the key issues animating voters? is it the same as what you would expect nationally? host: i think the housing crisis , we are more affected around the country. we struggle with growth and conservation and 80% of land it is privately owned and we are more affected by the housing crisis and talking with voters, you will find a struggle to pay rent and it will increase and they can't afford to buy a home and those with the big issues. also the economy, gas prices, food and groceries tend to be big issues. host: vice president harris was

in las vegas and talked about her plan for formal housing. [video clip] >> a searing house series housing is what is affecting cost for we will cut the red tape and build a 300 million new homes. [applause] and provide first-time home buyers with $25,000 down payment. [applause] so you can just get your foot in the door. we will do the rest. we must lower the cost of living because while we are doing well for many measures, everyday things like groceries are too high. you know it and i know it. i have a plan that includes lowering costs on everything from of character groceries,

including i will take on the corporate price gouging that we know has resulted in driving prices off often around crisis and emergency. host: your response, jessica hill. guest: we are seeing the vice president come up with these more detailed plans that we haven't heard when she first announced. both candidates do focus on the housing issue and economy and she has made a lot of inroads with that. down payment for first-time homebuyers, promising new homes working with corporate space on that but also working on the price gouging and making sure corporate isn't taking over too many housing and that has resonated with voters, especially supporters who talk

about wanting to see more accountability for corporate landlords. host: if you would like to join our conversation with jessica hill, you can do that at republicans (202) 748-8001, democrats (202) 748-8000, independent (202) 748-8002. we also have nevada residents line and that is (202) 748-8003. you can also use the same line to text us. former president donald trump was in las vegas in early june when he announced his policy or puzzles for no tax on tips. i will play portion and get your response. [video clip] donald trump: this is the first time i have said this, for those who get tips you are going to be very happy.

when i get to office, we are not going to charge taxes on people making tips. [cheering and applause] we are not going to do it and we are going to do that right away, first thing in office because it has been a point of contention for years and years and you do a great job with service and you do a good service and i think it is something that is deserved. popular and unpopular and i do unpopular things if it is right, but those people who have jobs, a tipping job, we are not going after taxes anymore. [cheering and applause] i announced that, the first time anyone has brought it up and i think it is very appropriate. host: how was that received and talk a little bit about i guess

the implementation of that proposal. guest: workers seem to like it but some said it is one part of a larger solution. if they want to see a holistic approach and some said they want it with also eight minimum wage raise. some said they aren't sure what benefit it will have. some workers earn $12 an hour and some make $13 an hour. experts want to see it coupled with minimum wage in order for benefits to be seen by it nevada workers. it is a generally popular idea. workers want more money in their pockets. president harris has signed on also but is also look at

increasing minimum wage. host: latino voters make 20% of the electorate in nevada. where are they going and what is the understanding they are not a monolithic rock. what are you seeing on them latino voters? guest: it is hard to tell xavier becerra feeling about things. both campaigns have tried hard to win them over this year. trump a couple days ago held a roundtable in las vegas for hispanic voters and talking about issues they care about. here's campaign has tried to win them over as well and had no -- held events at restaurants in they have also held football watch parties to talk to latino voters about what issues matter to them. host: let's talk to springfield,

massachusetts, trump supporter, rick caller:. -- rick. caller: i want to show information that harris and a four-star general advertised showing that trump thought hiller was good. they should dissect the word "good." we know trump is an extremely successful businessman and ran our country fantastically in the four years. when you mentioned the word "good," was he talking about germany and the times they were in extreme poverty and trump stating -- i don't like hitler's end of the polish heritage and glad he went to his demise but when trump said that, was he talking about how hiller.

germany and the upswing of becoming a successful economic country again? they should dissect that word good because i know mr. trump when he sought to think some -- things of auschwitz, i am sure he would have been so glad to see hiller go to his demise. host: not really related to it nevada but has that issue come up among nevada voters as far as you know? guest: i haven't seen too much from voters about that. maybe we are still playing catch up with it but i haven't heard too much about how it would affect the race in nevada. host: also in springfield, a harris supporter. caller: i have already voted for

come allah -- kamala. i watched the show every day and i do get nervous with politics and i just hope that whoever gets in there does a good job and maybe we can get another stimulus check to help out the people and that is really all i have to say. thank you for taking my call. host: he said he voted already. what is the process for early votes coming in in nevada? are they going to be processed, held until election day, when do they get counted? guest: the secretary of state implemented a new rule to let them start counting early. i am sure you know that nevada was one of the states in the

2022 midterms so he is hoping this will help with the results early. early votes will begin on election day at 8:00. after the polls are closed, then the first batch will be released. host: we have a call from las vegas. caller: good morning. i am calling strictly to say i don't believe the younger people really understand how serious this is. they really need to check and see what the parties are backing. i am a trump voter and i am

going for what he has delivered before. they need to understand that once somebody gets into office, we cannot throw them out no matter how things go. we have to ride the waves with that person. under donald trump, we had no problems but now the biotin -- the biden and harris are in and i am unhappy every day. host: when you say you are livid, is that the economy? is that your major issue? caller: regarding the economy and the border. two have to pay $5.99 for a roll of sausage. five dollars for mayonnaise. it is just crazy. host: jessica hill? guest: i think she makes a good

point about apathy from young voters. i am seeing some apathy in this race. they don't see the point in voting and not seeing a difference between the candidates, especially from younger people i have talked to expressed not wanting to vote, which is unfortunate. the economy is a big issue for many voters. they are seeing it in the cost of groceries and food but democrats have said it is because of the worldwide inflammation and the vice president has planned to fix that. host: i just put some statistics on the state of nevada on the screen. six electoral votes for nevada, population is 3.1 million from

2020. the unemployment rate is 5.6%, median household income $76,400 12% of people in poverty. one thing that strikes me is the unemployment rate is higher than the national average. is that playing into this election at all? guest: not as much. we have a unique demographic. we have a lot of retired folks and students in those who are necessarily looking for jobs and also job growth which can lead to the unemployment rate. what i have heard from financial experts they have not said it is a main issue with unemployment. host: tommy, california, trump supporter. caller: what i have to say is very synced. don't judge a man by what he says but what he does.

i know that he is spoken words about people in what appears to beat not a nice way. remember that jesus christ called the jews the sons of the devil and he wasn't lying but judge a man by what he does and remember what he did when he was president. everybody was happy, everybody had it made and you didn't have to walk to the store because you didn't have money for gas. it judge him for what he has done, not for what he says. host: got it, tommy. go ahead, jessica. any comment? guest: i don't have any comment on that. host: brad in maine, undecided voter. caller: good morning. i wanted to talk about voting

which is on the ballot in nevada. they have it here and it would allow me to vote for some other third-party candidates. i won't lose my vote and it will be wasted if she doesn't win which she clearly won't, it will go to my second choice. i think it is really important because voting is the most fundamental right. it is one of the very important things to fix in nevada because they'd still use the most votes

win and i hope they all go to rank-choice voting. host: jessica? guest: it is a big issue this year. we voted for it in 2022 and it passed and it would amend the constitution. basically without question this will allow for an open primary and allow them to participate in just one primary with democrats and then in the general election it would create a rank-choice voting system where you rank your top five favorite candidates. this does not apply to the presidential election. this would just be exclusively to state races. it does appeal to a lot of voters, especially nonpartisan who felt disenfranchised and felt they had to choose between the lesser of two evils and they like the idea of ranking a

candidate. others say it is confusing and could disenfranchise vote -- disenfranchised voters who don't know how it works. there is an element where if you don't have a ranked choice system your vote might not go as far. it depends on who you vote for. if you were to vote for your number one pick and not rank anyone else, then your boat wouldn't extend as far as someone who would vote for jill stein, kamala harris, and donald trump. win with that it would extend further. i think it will be interesting to see how it goes. host: you mentioned that joe stein was not going to be on the ballot. besides harris and trump, who will be on the ballot? guest: there are some independent and libertarian candidates and --

host: why is it on the ballot? guest: something passed in state law that allowed people to have an option which was in it to nevada. host: ed is in houston, texas, harris supporter. caller: jessica, i am glad she was able to get up so early this morning to get to the tv on c-span. harris is coming to houston tomorrow to have a big rally and this was supposed to be a trump state but the polls show him only about four to five points ahead which is close for texas. i am just wondering why your newspaper endorsed trump in this election. guest: the editorial board

endorsed trump and unfortunately the newsroom has no say in it. we are a separate entity completely. i was not aware they were going to endorsed trump until it came out announcing it. there are two separate entities in the newspaper and they have mad endorsements down the ballot with different races in nevada as well. it is rare you see newspapers endorsed but that was made by the board. host: damien in osan shied -- oceanside, california, trump supporter. caller: yes, i would like to ask jessica what she thinks about demographic changes. it seems like harris'open ballot -- border so policy and her interview with telemundo seemed

to indicate she was looking at a legal path but in nevada it seems like she is basically trying to buy voters. you come in and you get a path to citizenship and will eventually get to start voting. and the harris supporter that called, i wonder about her thoughts about the democratic policy is it a push for democratic -- demographic change in places like nevada? guest: with the demographics in nevada, a large percentage of voters, one in five registered voters who were born here and some were brought here when they were children. it is a very complicated issue. i have not seen her try to buy voters by bringing them in and

making sure they become citizens in the next couple of weeks and getting them to vote for her. i have not seen that but the demographic is huge and both sides are doing their best to win those voters which could play a crucial role. host: we have a nevada resident in henderson, sheila, good morning. caller: i am a supporter for donald trump and i believe that he is sincere and has done a great job trying to get everyone out to vote early. my husband and i have already voted. i want to appreciate each of thing c-span does for all of us. we appreciate you and all the different people working to support each one of us

americans. and yes, the nevada residents are in deep trouble with everything the open border has caused over here in nevada, not just due process but the trafficking of young children. it is extremely bad on our streets. i would appreciate everyone making a point to go out and vote for whomever they want to vote for. that is there given right. but all of the different children that are still in college, they do need to get out and vote. they can't stand on the streets and protest if they are not going to do their part as being a person to vote. host: anything to add, jessica hill? guest: nope. just get out there in vote. host: maryland, harris supporter.

caller: i have listened to donald trump ever since he came down the steps. i have heard him lie and denigrate people i haven't heard that from harris. she hasn't called a latino vermin. she hasn't called black people burp -- vermin or a scourge to the country but trump has. when she says a path to citizenship, it takes five years, a long time to get citizenship to the u.s.. but the people and they pick our vegetables and clean our houses and they do your lawn, they cook for you. they wouldn't be here if white

people didn't want them here. they want to come here and make money. the white farmers instead of hiring black people they hire latinos. they knew when they were hiring these people they or not legal. for people saying that is something that kamala started, she didn't. i remember when the migrants started coming in they live in terrible conditions to provide food for our families. host: anything to add, jessica? guest: no. host: you mentioned the choices on ranked choice but there is also a ballot to end trying --

to enshrine abortion into the constitution. what is their view on whether that will pass and if that will encourage more voter turnout. guest: this is something that a coalition of groups have pushed for. abortion is protected in our state law and this would expand that further into the constitution. abortion remains popular here in nevada and is one of the reasons why i think democrats were successful in 2022. my guess is that it will pass because it is popular and just wanted the right to have an abortion. host: westland, michigan, undecided voter. caller: i don't call on these things but here in michigan, earlier was somebody saying young people are not education

or looking into the political things here in america. it is enraging to hear both sides of the party candidates throughout the whole campaign. haven't heard critical thoughts or anybody making opinions for themselves about just why they won't vote for the other party. it is disheartening. it is sad to see our country not focus on a lack of education or the food industry is behind other countries and all of the other things going on here could we continue to spend money where we don't need to. it is frustrating. host: you are undecided and in a swing state. do you still plan to vote? caller: absolutely.

i can encourage other people to continue to make critical thoughts and research all candidates on the ballot. host: what is it that will make you come caller: to a decision? -- make you come to a decision? caller: somebody who is not bought by a pac. host: job, trump supporter. -- trump supporter. caller: that young voter that is undecided should remember that kamala harris said the young voters are stupid. let's look at there was no primary, joe was kicked aside and 13 million people were disenfranchised from their

votes. that is not exactly right. what has kamala done and what has trump done? trump had the borders secure and they widened -- had them wide open. gas prices were drowned -- down. anything made up plastics, it is unreal. these people need to stop and think about what they vote, what they are voting for. they are fixing to get us into a communist country if you vote for kamala harris. host: jessica hill, he did mention energy. is that playing into this election at all? guest: absolutely, especially with the statewide issues, the senate race they want to see how

they shore up energy development and what they are looking for. not so much in the national race but the down ballot races. host: we have jacky rosen seeking a second term and the republican challenger is sam brown. how is that race looking? guest: the democratic incumbent has been leading and a lot of the pulleys since the beginning of the election cycle by a large margin. the polls can be tricky in nevada. we have an ever-changing electric and difficult to take with a grain of salt these polls. some of them show 5% of voters are undecided and don't know and so there is some wiggle room for sam around. i have heard from republicans in

nevada that are impressed with sam brown and see a lot of people voting for rosen and donald trump. host: anna in gaithersburg, maryland is texting asking about the union vote in nevada. what do you know about that? guest: the nevada biggest union that supports a lot of the casino workers, they have endorsed harris and tim walz. down ballot they endorsed some democrats and republicans. historically, democrats have tended to get support from the unions. they talk about donald trump really winning over the union workers, like the national teamsters for instance have declined but the local teamsters endorsed harris and walz.

host: chad in massachusetts, in undecided voter. caller: good morning. i am basically a democrat that can't really vote for harris because she can't answer to many questions. in every election cycle, do you think it is fair that each election date separate us into it categories and break it down into black, white, hispanic, shouldn't it be done by at regent rather than race and color? host: what do you mean, like when we say black voters or at latino voters, that kind of thing? caller: basically the three

different groups. host: jessica, are you seeing that in nevada? guest: seeing what, exactly? host: in other words that it doesn't make a difference, there is not a black or latino, women vote, that kind of thing? guest: any time we have discussions about latino voters and black voters and we have to remember that we can't paint with a broad brush. host: jessica hill, politics reporter for las vegas review journal. they -- thanks so much for joining us. guest: thanks for having me. host: up next, we continue our discussion about nevada with the political science professor at the truckee meadows community college in reno.

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electoral college votes of all the swing states. what makes it so important to the candidates? guest: as we know, we live in peculiar times for the national elections. the electoral college votes have been relatively close and we start the cycle with 43 or 44 states that have already made up their mind regardless of what the campaigns and the party candidates do, they are going to vote their party. so those states who follow in the background state category, it is important because we ultimately provide the votes needed to get there. for the other states with the bigger numbers it is understandable but but when it

is tight, six electoral votes can get you over the 270. for a state like nevada, a very small state in terms of political influence, now much more influential than it should be. host: as far as party registration in nevada, i had to hear that democrats make up 30%, nonpartisan are 34%. what does that say about a possible independent voter or noncommitted voters? guest: nevada is not the only one that has this predominantly now. we have seen a growth in the independent voter. in the independent category have dedicated parties and it is confusing because we use different nomenclature that

other states don't use. that number has grown rapidly over the last 10 to 15 years. in the state of nevada, much of that has been refugee moderate republicans branded as rhinos in driven are the state party. they have been told they are not welcome at the party has moved strongly to the right. there are some disgruntled democrats that perhaps find some of the agenda too far to the left. the moderating voice in this group of voters in states like nevada, the phenomenon is going on in other states and that is the issue not being discussed in this election is that it will not be decided by democrats or republicans. it will be decided by nonpartisan's and independence in the state. they are shy to do the poll results and very much holding their cards close to the chest

and that is going to be the real surprise on election day is to what extent they turn out and how they voted, have they gone to the left or right. it is difficult in nevada for many of the nonpartisans to cast a vote for a republican like donald trump. after all, they have been driven are the party by conservatives and a number of them probably left because of the donald trump and so many election cycles. i think that will be a decisive issue for us in nevada. we watch that very closely. beyond that, you have to look at the distribution. in nevada, 80% resides in clark county las vegas. that has a 100,000 vote edge democrats over republicans. democrats are already in a good position in the southern nevada to nudge the total and the only

other county that seems to matter is reno in the north. the other county that can vote democrat and it is more swing or purple by far than clark county but these two companies are 95% of the state population. the other 15% are only 5%. it is an close election. 15 counties will read as a general rule. so the democratic strength resides in the two counties and that is where the election is going to be decided. host: what have you seen for the ground game for the two campaigns? have they been focused on getting the vote out? have you seen a lot of doorknocking? guest: it is a tale of two cities. the democratic party has always been organized on the ground game. it goes back to harry reid who served as senator for the state

for a couple decades. we always referred to it as the reid machine. you discussed with the unions, the whole idea was to get support for the unions and other strong unions in clark county and get them out doorknocking in over a number of elections, that machine really started to work well. when we see that is the dominance of the state legislature and that is where it has been by far the most successful but it supports the federal offices as well. that has in recent years moved to northern nevada. we have that working on the ground here and in this election, we have seen the democrats knocking on doors a lot and have come through in waves. frankly, we have not seen the republican party able to do the

same thing for a variety of reasons. the republican party is not as well funded. they don't seem to have the organized structure in place. the current governor is a republican and he has been looking to get that in place. we know that it takes years to put that in place but we think it is a very decisive factor in getting the vote and message across and has been critical this year because of how short a turnaround time we had between the decision of joe biden and harris having to get her campaign going. the machine is on the ground for them and we have seen a lot of harris material in the neighborhoods as a result. host: if you would like to join the conversation, if you're a trump supporter, call us on (202) 748-8001, if you support harris-walz, (202) 748-8000,

undecided (202) 748-8002. nevada residents since we are focused (202) 748-8003 since we are focused on it, call us on (202) 748-8003. how effective do you think it has been? guest: when we started the conversation, nevada was only six electoral votes could we should not be see many visits by the candidates and surrogates but we have because of the battleground status. the voters have gotten used to that. we have looked forward to seeing that. as soon as six to eight weeks ago, both reporters and voters were thinking, we are out of the loop. all of the sudden it has swept

the state in the north and south and there is a tendency to go primarily to clark county but we are seeing most everybody once or twice and it does add a flavor and excitement level and engagement level when they do this. the rallies are well attended for both democrats and republicans. we have seen excitement as a result. i can see why the candidates do it but it is so difficult in a nation so complex with so many people but with the swing states you can focus on those in contention and we are seeing steady waves and it doesn't make a difference in activating and engaging the voters. host: let's start to stephen in pennsylvania, a trump supporter. caller: good morning.

being a republican, i feel compulsive to vote for trump, although i don't agree with either candidate. as far as i am concerned, the united states deserves better than these two candidates. the reason i am looking to vote for trump is mainly because of israel. i am very concerned that over the course of this campaign we have heard very, very little and that bothers me. if they are not saying anything and voicing their opinions, that means a deal has been made between the harris-biden administration to give them what they want once they are elected and that worries me. many people are anti-israel now because of what is going on over there. israel is the only ally in that area. israel is the only country that will fight for us and put down their lives for us to keep us

safe on the side of the ocean. that is the main reason i am voting for trump. other than that, there is not much to choose from either one. host: professor lokken? guest: we always teach in the classroom is that it is domestic policy that motivates the american voter. foreign policy is the exception because we feel the impact of domestic issues and often the foreign policy issues don't seem to directly impact us. i understand the caller's point of view, but the whole situation is a complex situation. it has to be recognized it is a strong ally and i agree with that assessment. it is kind of like raising a child, you can always love them

as a child but you don't always like their behavior. the ultra coalition governing israel has been a difficult partner to deal with. that is true of all the countries that are allies of israel. we work closely with the egyptians and jordanians and saudi arabia, but there is a tremendous foreign policy presence that joe biden has been able to put into that region to keep us from tipping over and becoming a regional war. all voters should be concerned about where the middle east is going to end. it is the longest anticipated work in the middle east and does not seem to end. it does not look like it will be much of a voting issue on november 5. host: we have a collar in las

vegas, nevada, rebecca. caller: i would like the professor to talk about what happened on december 14, 2020 here in las vegas in the state of nevada where michael mcdonald in the rnc in nevada signed fake electoral votes in an attempt to disenfranchise thousands of democrat voters here in nevada. and also you had jessica on and when someone asked her a question about how the journal made the decision on who to endorse, i would like the professor to talk about who owns the review journal here in las vegas. i will take my answer off of the line. guest: i appreciate rebecca's call.

the election in the process of voting is probably one of the best in the country. we have been a leader in electronic voting. we have a structure of over -- of only 17 company so it is easy to coordinate with the secretary of state cost austria's office. procedures have been developed over the years and we do occasionally have someone who tries to vote illegally but they get caught and tried and convicted. we had a case in 2015 and another case from 2020. there is no integrity issue in nevada but unfortunately the republican state party has chosen that path and certainly the perception from the attorney general's office and secretary of state's office was that this was an attempt to disenfranchise voters in an legitimate voting process. there is no state law that could

necessarily apply so they were reluctant to bring charges initially. then they did finally try to bring charges and wound that being dismissed because we don't have a law they can use it effectively against it. we have doubled efforts in the state of nevada to make sure the process is transparent and fair and impartial. it is felt this may happen again in nevada and has happened in other states. it is unfortunate because there are certainly efforts to suppress votes in the united states. it has taken a toll on our registrar's and secretary of state's office. we have had death threats and all kinds of things that should not be happening in an american democracy in 2024. we need to focus on campaigns and respect the decision of the

voters is they exercise it. they have been looking to expand the ease of voting in the state. we expanded to early voting 10 days before doing that over the weekend and saturdays and sundays in grocery stores and libraries. we ushered in during the pandemic mail and ballots and have made that permanent. we are hoping that will improve voter turnout because nevada is one of the states that has a very low voter turnout percentagewise relative to the eligible. all of these things, including same-day voter registration, will hopefully be wide enough to improve the number of host: she asked about the las vegas review and their ownership and their endorsement. guest: 12 years ago, something

like that -- in las vegas, it is a very conservative family. the elder statesman of the adelson family. they say they separate the editorial board from any kind of political influence, but the owner. it is a competitor, the las vegas sun. there is the nevada independent. nevadans have other options for the news. they know where these papers are generally in terms of their ideology. host: kathleen and indianola, mississippi, a harris supporter. go ahead. caller: what i want to talk about today is mississippi. it is one of the reddest, reddest, reddest states. you know what i am talking about.

everything donald john trump touches is dead or dying. we are in a one bedroom apartment. donald trump raised everything and left it in a coma. biden, obama got us out. people need to wake up and learn history. if trump gets back in, we will not make it. everybody talking about "i need more money." what about my life? i've got snap. i've got medicaid, but most people don't. medicaid is expensive. what do we have left here? host: professor, any comments on

mississippi? no that is not your focus. -- i know that is not your focus. guest: it is representative. we have seven battleground states, but there are 43 other states. republicans in this -- in mississippi and democrats in states like new york and the northeast -- e seen efforts to gerrymander the states so there is perpetual control. mississippi has been one of the states. in the southern states, 10 years ago, they passed laws that required photo i.d.. for so many, they were maybe 50, 60 miles from the closest place they could get an official government i.d. it was disenfranchising people who had been able to vote their entire lives. and these are unfortunate developments during times of hyper partisanship. it is very difficult sometimes

once you create these situations to be able to undo them. it will take decades to be able to work out political shifts, given the way lines have been drawn to make them guaranteed to be republican in this case, but in some other states, guaranteed to be democrat. i can understand voters get very frustrated by it. host: i want to play a harris ad that has been playing in nevada for you, professor, and then get your comments on it. v.p. harris: this election is about two very different visions for our nation. one is focused on the future and the other is focused on the past. when the middle class is strong, america is strong. the cost of living will be a defining goal of my presidency. i will lower the cost of insulin and prescription drugs for everyone, and i will work to pass the first ever federal ban on price gouging on food, close

to 100 million americans will get a tax cut, you will end america's housing shortage by building 3 million new homes and residences that are affordable for the middle class. together, we will build an economy where everyone can compete and have a real chance. now is the time to chart a new way forward. i'm kamala harris, and i approve this message. host: professor, that ada showed workers. it had a spanish translation of what vice president harris was saying on the screen. what do you make of that as far as the issues that are animating latino voters? guest: it is doing very well. i think the issues -- the economy is strong in nevada, but it is stronger in northern nevada than it is in southern nevada. northern nevada has been the

beneficiary of a factory being relocated. we are in the heart of the lithium loop, as we refer to it. we see the move to alternative energy. we are manufacturing battery-powered semis and cars, and we are operating on geothermal power. it is a very different reality in northern nevada than in southern nevada. southern nevada has been slower to respond. the convention business is not come back. the tourism and gaming parts of the economy of las vegas are there. i would say it still makes up about 85% of the state economy. so it is very important to know that their unemployment rate is a little higher than it is in northern nevada. people are very aware they're not making the money to deal with increased prices. it may be harder in southern nevada to get a job. housing prices in nevada, both

north and south, or out pricing much of the market, as they are elsewhere in the country. every one of these problems were here last year. they were here probably 10 or 15 or 20 years ago. the price increases, not so much. but there is also an understanding that much of that seems to be more arbitrary and capricious. we don't have supply problems anymore, and nevada has realized that. we are all wondering why prices are so high, and there seems to be a relationship to the prophets being record-breaking. it is a growing factor in the state of nevada. about 30% of washoe county's population is hispanic. 40% or more in southern nevada, in clark county, is hispanic. that makes this a very powerful potential voting block.

but as was pointed out in the previous segment, it is not a monolith. it is not an organized settle. it is a complex situation with a lot of different views and priorities. housing is front and center. a majority of the people in the state of nevada cannot afford to buy a home. until is the most common way, and we are painfully aware of that. so the idea that there would be a national focus and help to be able to open that door for first-time buyers has been very popular not only with the latino population, but frankly with all of those who struggle every day with the paycheck they have to create a high quality of life and living that they want. it is the issue along with abortion that i would say are the key issues in this election. they are both factors that will bring out the vote, for sure. host: we got this text f

glenn in henderson, nevada, a trump supporter. he said we need our state turn red this election. i have occasionally seen more and more democrats switching to republican party after realizing how successful trump was during his presidency. shou be anywhere near the oval office. she drives us right into the ground. are you seeing democrats switching to republican? and how is donald trump's first term seen and received by nevada voters? guest: it is interesting. nevada has been evolving. we have always kind of been a purple state at heart. we have elected republicans and democrats throughout our history. but starting in 2010, the census really indicated a demographic shift in the state that was moving us toward the blue column.

political scientists -- i indicated after the 2016 election that nevada was purple but picking up a pretty strong blue tint, and that we would likely be moving toward the blueness of the west coast -- california, washington, oregon, hawaii. this is a blue end of the country, and nevada seemed in 2010 to be moving more in that direction. our elections stay very close. i don't see a lot of democrats shifting to the republican column. but we do see more democrats moving in than republicans. the first wave of republicans that moved here were coming from california, not liking the taxes or the government of california. that really started to make it purple, especially in the north, where it is more prominent than in the south. i would say in 2014 the south has been picking up a lot more

democrats, and now, because of our economy, we are attracting people from all over the country, and it is younger and predominantly male in the north, and more apt to vote democrat if they vote. the trick with the democratic party is there are more of them registered but they are harder to motivate to vote. the republicans are usually better able to motivate. but what i have seen is a lot of republicans that don't want to vote for donald trump this time. that is the first time i have seen that. there is a feeling of fatigue. it has been the same candidate three times in a row. there is a greater debate about how successful the trump administration was in its four years. we have had any number of people very much aware of adding to the national debt that was represented by the 2017 x cut. it is adding one -- $1 trillion

to 1.5 trillion dollars to the national debt each year. spending for defense surged. -- was cut. it is less ideological here. it is more on the ground about how am i going to benefit. harris is a better-known candidate here because of her years of service in california. pay attention to california politics as a general rule and she was very popular here in 2020 when she was seeking the presidency and joe ultimately one. i think in that sense, plus the fact that she has been the vice president for the last three and a half years, there is a lot of knowledge and understanding. i think a lot of people are happy to see her bring her values forward, because she is a vice president has supported joe biden. that has equally been a fairly popular presidency in nevada. we generally, i think, don't see

democrats or republicans really moving too much in the other direction. the non-partisans are going to decide this election. most of those are republican moderates who i don't think will be voting for a conservative presidential candidate. host: in montgomery, alabama, harris supporter. hey, jason. caller: i guess my comment is i am voting for harris/walz because trump has declared and the people around him have declared that he wants to surround himself with loyalists. he keeps appealing to the independent arizona voters. that seems to be this common refrain across multiple states, people talking about the value of an independent voter and being independently minded. but trump has said that is not what he wants. and on his way out in 2020, when he was illegally trying to overthrow the results, he was

trying to surround himself with loyalists and to do what he wanted, but he had people like bill barr and others around him that said we are not going to do that. that makes no sense. so now he is saying i don't want that. i want people who are going to do what i say regardless of their oath to the constitution, regardless of the law. that is not a person that i feel like should appeal to anybody, not to mention independents, quote unquote. he wants what he wants personally. in this particular instance, i would say he wants to be president again because he wants to be vengeful. but on top of that he does not want to do with the legal challenges he is facing. if he gets back in office, the vast majority of that goes away, if not all of it, and he gets to do whatever he wants in office with no consequence.

host: professor, any comments on that? guest: the partisan frustration -- most voters are not that left or that right. the color earlier commented about the quality of candidates. i think when i talk to my students, they are often surprised at who our nominees are. how did we get there? most voters in america don't pay attention to what the policy wonks do. they don't really get interested until about right now, and they raise their heads and it kind of overwhelms them, the issues and things that are going on. we do have an election that offers a very dramatic choice, a real difference between the two candidates. i think this color is sensing that. but it also points to the frustration that most voters are hemming, the stress in voting over the last almost 12 years.

every election now seems to be so consequential. the passions that we feel, we get so frustrated and even angry about how can anybody support this candidate or that candidate. and i think you see it in the electors and voters. they see this and are feeling that frustration. again, it is a consequential election that i think will have may be more consequences than we anticipate depending upon who gets into that office, and my heart goes out to the voters. i wish we were in a different situation right now. host: bill in anderson, indiana, a trump supporter. good morning. caller: the reason our prices is so high is it is costing so much to transport goods. all the goods that's being transported in the united states is high.

and our deficit is so bad, i mean, that it is unbelievable how much our deficit is. our social security -- i am 75 years old and our social security is not going to last much longer. it cannot. and all the lies that's being spread about, you know, trump is going to be a dictator on day one -- and maga. why do they want to bring out names, you know what i mean? call people maga republicans. it's just -- host: all right, bill. let's get a response. guest: well, i think people

react the way they do to donald trump because of what he is saying. i mean, the message that he really put out there is he is saying these things. he is bragging about dictatorships and saying what he is going to do on the first day. the sentiments are out there for every voter to see. in terms of the economy, it is always politics, right? there is no logical reason for the gas prices to be as high as they are while the united states is the number one oil producer. the biden administration relaxed access to drilling about two years ago in the process. it is not a supply problem. it is a politics process. the oil industry knows that it prefers one candidate over the other, and it does what it can, i think, to support the candidate that it wants to win.

but we also have an issue of climate change and a desire to try to control the use of fossil fuels. here in the west, people use alternative energy prices -- alternative energy for that reason, and we would like to see investment there because we believe they have four more benefits coming long-term. oil is a finite source. so prices are not always there. it's for a reason that makes sense economically. sometimes they serve a purpose. that is where i think oil prices are right now. host: the color also mentioned social security. even the number of retirees living in nevada, have you seen the voters trust one candidate over the other is far as social security goes? guest: well, yes. i think to begin with there is concern about the viability of social security long-term.

for many people, it is their major source of income in retirement. to even suggest it might go away or something might change in medicare or something like that is very, very unsettling. the number one issue i have heard this year that we talk about is the national debt. americans are aware that the debt is growing way too fast. spending has to somehow match revenue. but the problem is -- in 2000, the united states had a 3.5% growth rate, a balanced budget, and was at a $4.9 trillion debt, and it was paying down the principal. it did that with existing tax revenue. then we had to tax cuts under the bush administration, a tax cut under the trump administration, and most of the deficit, along with the economic collapse in 2008, has been

generated by not enough revenue because they did not cut spending when they cut revenue. most of us run our home budgets a lot better than the national government runs it. people are very frustrated about that because they know this is coming back to roost. when you have a kid, you send them off to be the next generation. you don't want them dealing with the economic collapse that could be coming from a deficit that is out of control. many are frustrated that the issues that are talked about are never the issues you should be talking about, and the national debt is a big issue, have to balance that spending. where do we increase taxes and where do we cut spending? it really should be a focus of the campaigns. host: republican vice presidential nominee jd vance was in reno, nevada yesterday. here he is, encouraging supporters to vote early. sen. vance: we are only going to win if you get out there and

vote. it is very simple. i will tell you i don't like election season. i prefer election day. but as our great president said, donald trump, it is what it is, ok? we are now in a world where the democrats are using every method they can. kamala harris's campaign is using every effort they can -- using mail, early voting, election day voting. so republicans, we have got to play by the same rules and get our people out to vote however we possibly can. [applause] so let's get out there and vote early. let's get out there and vote by mail. let's go out there and vote however makes the most sense. [/video] guest: about early voter turnout, there is a dedication the republicans are voting and may be ahead by 2%. this is a shift.

in 2016 and 2020, republicans were basically told to not vote until election day. but it does not make any sense. the motivation for doing what states like nevada and many other states have done is when you open the door wider you get more people able to participate. voting by mail in balloting has really been a game changer in this and other states. it is open to every cut and silk of voter. -- and ilk of voter. it is tragic that there was this opposition to it. voting on a regular workday is so complicated for the average american in this day and age that it is depressing our voter turnout. member that the united states is the worst democracy of the industrialized nations and a lot of it is because of the way we conduct our elections. now, that makes it more

flexible. many republican states went to early voting a long time ago, along with democrats. it is not a partisan decision. it is to open the door and try to get more americans to vote. we have a democracy. we want as many citizens involved in the decision-making as possible. i don't understand the remarks about that. in a state like nevada, a lot of republicans vote early as well. host: a harris supporter. caller: i will vote for her because i think she will help her country. i served in the vietnam war and i am going on 82 years old. as we, as america, need to look

at the candidates and what they say dashed, he don't tell the truth. you should say what you are going to do, and do it. but you should not lie. host: we have got qution for you from cal in spokane, washington. i did the union support harris? -- why did thenions support harris? millions of immigrants will only put more pressure on wages and we face for more years of the open border. guest: the reality is that the relationship between democrats and union members has been legendarily long.

democrats supported the union movement beginning today and there is a loyalty and connection that has been built there. the inroads during the 1960's was richard nixon. you see that this year with the almost monolithic support of unions for the democratic ticket , save for the teamsters not endorsing this year. the reason is that democrats see the value of organizing, arguing why unions are good. the republican parties and candidates have not been nearly as enthusiastic. we do have the conversation between elon musk and donald trump. it kind of lingers out there and it has been heard.

we have a labor shortage in this country in certain areas, certain types of work. the immigrant labor, the migrant labor, those who come to this country seeking a better life are the ones filling those positions. if they are not coming, we have a problem. it is a threat to the vitality of the economy. it is in part what keeps our food prices lower, because they have been more willing to work at lower wages here in the states. also, the notion of an open border -- it is relative. timing is everything. you have the collapse of venezuela and colombia. you have mass migrations from two countries that are embroiled in tremendous violence. and you have the country of mexico -- we don't have a border with venezuela and colombia. we have a border with mexico.

the republican willingness to either block them at the southern border -- it is a complex situation that is not a democrat or republican problem. it is working with their neighbors and trying to figure out the causes of why these people are coming. we have been very tight on the issue of immigration. the issue here at the border has been refugee status. people are fleeing violence because their lives are threatened. the united states has had a history of wanting to be helpful for those who are seeking refugee status. frankly, the border is under control right now. there was a. -- there was a period under the trump administration. democrats and republicans have something on the table. they should pass it and we can

move on to other issues. host: one more question before go, and that is a question from lori in maryland. why are native americans not brought up in this race as a specific group? guest: because statistically they are extremely small. native americans now make up something like 1.5% of the american population. in a large society, you focus on numbers that matter. they have been able to participate in federal election since 1920. in nevada, we have seen test cases to improve access to the ballot. they are experiencing a serious voter suppression. in south dakota, they shifted to require a mail address, disenfranchised a large number of native americans on reservations.

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invasion in 20 that has left hundreds of thousands dead. white house national security spokesman john kirby talked about this, acknowledge north korean troops moving into north korea. [video clip] >> we are working with our partners to gather a full understanding of the situation. i'm prepared to share what we know at this stage. early to mid october, north korea moved at least 3000 soldiers into eastern russia we have sensed that these soldiers traveled by ship to vladivostok, russia. the soldiers then traveled onward to multiple training sites in eastern russia, where they are currently undergoing training. we do not yet know whether these soldiers will enter into combat

alongside the russian military. this is certainly a highly concerning probability. after completing training, these soldiers could travel to western russia and then engage in combat against the ukrainian military. we have briefed the ukrainian government and are consulting with other allies, partners, and countries in the region on the implication of such a dramatic move and how we might respond. i expect to have more to share on all of that in the coming days. we will continue to monitor the situation closely. this would demonstrate russia's growing desperation in its war against ukraine. president putin appears intent on continuing this war. if russia is indeed forced to

turn to north korea for manpower, this would be a sign of weakness, not strength, on the part of the kremlin. host: that was from yesterday. you can watch that full press briefing on our website. we will go straight to your calls for open forum. joanne, yakima, washington, independent line. caller: hello. i had facebook information tonight from a friend out of seattle, washington. she blamed harris for hating black men from a tree upside down and it was very graphic. i thought i would let you guys know. maybe you know something about it. host: no, we don't. you saw that on facebook? caller: on facebook, saying they

just got off of watching the news. the tv out of seattle. showed an advertisement, and i thought i would let you know. black men hanging from a tree upside down. host: all right. let's go to angela in maryland. caller: my last call before the election, so i'm going to make my case in two minutes for the undecided or couch sitters. let's start with trump. he came into the office with two counts of civil fraud and he ended by trying to suspend the constitution and use big electors to keep himself in power. that is kind of a dictator move. not to mention all his indictments. he is a criminal. he is the worst of the worst. but even more important, people

wondering who to vote for -- she will be picking two more supreme court justices. i was a teenager when clarence thomas was put on the bench. i was not even old enough to vote. i was a teenager. him and alito have been funded by billionaires for years now, their lifestyle. the billionaires -- they are going to retire. it could be 35 more years of a right wing supreme court that gave us such decisions like citizens united, where money is speech and corporations are people, which is nowhere in the constitution, to ending civil rights, loosening gun laws, environmental laws, and it was the worst decision, immunity for presidents. donald trump, a wannabe dictator -- he is not coming in with the same people he had four years

ago. he is coming in with the radicals of the radical fascists that will help him implement all this. to the democrats out there -- you did not get all your goodies from joe biden. i want medicare for all, but it is never going to happen. social security and medicare -- the only thing stopping cuts to that are democrats, so that is good. but i will not give up my future to save this country from a dictator. people have fought and died for the constitution of this country. i'm just beside myself thinking how you are going to let any little piddly issue, especially your grocery prices, allow a dictator to come into this country. you don't deserve to eat. host: in new jersey, republican,

good morning. caller: to me, the only person that can help this country is trump. i'm tired of hearing all the nasty talk, lies of the democratic party. this man gave up his money when he was president. we had no problems. if there was a problem, he would fix it. and these people are still coming across. why can't they do something about it right now? i better wait for the election. we need help now. democrats will not do it. they lie. trump comes right out and says what he means. that is what i like about him, so i am for trump. thank. -- thank you very much. >> -- caller: good morning. the woman that called from maryland was right about the

supreme court. they have been paid to vote a certain way, and he was proud of it. he overturned roe v. wade. now, we have women dying or can't get health care because they are losing their babies. and women know that there are babies that sometimes you might lose them at three months, six months, and even after you deliver one. i just -- he has lied. he's lied to us. he says he's going to be a

dictator. and who would want that for our lives? host: all right, janet. here is erin an upper mall borough, independent. caller: thanks for taking my call. let's stipulate that you can't make people do what they don't want to do. the people who say they are undecided -- like the blue notes say it, if you don't know by now, you will never know. trump might be the second coming of jesus christ. most christians know about jesus christ and mary magdalene. a lot of americans know about donald trump and stormy daniels. jesus christ was in the business of saving mary magdalene's soul. all trump would tell you he was in the business of keeping stormy daniels gainfully employed to the tune of $130,000. jesus christ was in the service of others.

donald trump was in the service of oscar meyer. you think you are buying a rolex from donald trump or a gucci bag. donald trump is selling you a rolodex or a gotcha bag. host: here is john in liverpool, new york. caller: the only issue to me that the republicans have correct is immigration. you can hear from the callers how it spans different levels of these people taking up the resources, medical resources and staying at expensive hotels. but that is the only thing they have right. the republicans are wrong on gun control. they are wrong on abortion. they are wrong on everything. but i voted by mail for trump

already because of one issue -- immigration. i want these people deported. they cut in line against everyone doing it legally. they cut in line. they talk about that bill that the trump did not -- exerted pressure so they would not pass it. it is a bad bill. it would have let 2080 people every month come into this country. i am a democrat that supports mass deportation. a democrat for deportation. that is me. host: tonya is in fredericksburg, virginia, independent. caller: good morning. i just want to say we live in a fabulous country, the united states of america. here is a fun fact. the u.s. is the number one economy in the world right now.

we have the lowest unemployment. wages are up. i am a 67-year-old who went back to work a couple of years ago. i have already had to pay raises. people have short memories. people worked from home. right here in virginia, i get gas under three dollars, ok? are only chose -- choice right now is to vote for walz /harris. i just love her, and she is a serious -- she is a very serious woman and she knows the law. we have to go with the candidate who knows the law. and i cannot vote for a man who has assaulted women. women who are listening to this show -- i know i am a woman of a certain age who has been in a position where someone has tried

to take our freedom away. we cannot go for a man who has assaulted women. i am going to vote for harris. she is the only one, the only choice. and i thank you. god bless america. host: let's go to dallas, texas, our line for republicans. good morning. caller: good morning. i mostly want to definitely say good day to the country. i want to say i'm glad we are unifying. [indiscernible] host: i am afraid your line is not very good. try calling us back if you are able to. arthur in springfield, virginia, democrat. good morning. caller: thank you for taking the call and kudos to the last lady

that did speak so eloquently about who she is voting for and the status of our country. it seems like the biggest issue here is the border. in the issue for anyone that has been following knows there was a bipartisan bill that was put before congress that was going to help the border. and when donald trump called his cronies and told them to voted -- vote against it so he could have this to run on, it is just an indication that these are people that do not want to solve a problem. some republicans already worked on the problem. there are republicans on there. i would empathize with the people that can change their minds. people can still understand that a leader can help the country.

donald trump does not want to do that. i hope we will have vice president harris. thank you. host: republican, mark, you are next. caller: thank you for taking my call. i love your program. any chance to help people and hear what people have to say. you can get on trump all you want. it is not going to do any good. he is not a dictator. he is not going to be a dictator. when trump was president the first time -- do people say things they regret? i'm sure he regrets that. he probably should become a dictator to clean this country up, but he's not going to do that. the american people will be much safer and happier. host: here is modeled in dayton, ohio, a democrat. caller: thank you for taking my

call. i don't understand what is going on with -- facts, morals, and values used to mean something. now it does not even matter. he said he wanted to be a dictator on day one and it is ok , and doing away with the constitution. what? and they're not even being a government anymore. host: let's talk to nick, rochester, minnesota, independent line. caller: a couple of things. number one, i own several houses and in the past 5, 7 years i have gotten new roofs on two of them. during that timeframe when i was getting the roofs done, not one person spoke english. they all spoke spanish. if we get rid of all the immigrants, we are not going to have anybody to put roofs on. number two, i just drove down to georgia. either way, gas was $2.69 going

through several different states. so i don't know who is crying about the price of gasoline. i thought that was pretty darn good. not every barrel of oil can become -- can be converted into gasoline. some oil is so dirty it cannot be effectively turned into gas. either way, we are pumping more than we know what to do with right now. thanks very much. have a nice day. host: san antonio, texas, republican. caller: i want to see if the washington journal would have done honest reporting on the border issues, trump would not be winning this election. washington journal and the media is the main reason why trump is going to win this election, because everyone lied about the border. i'm in senate tonio texas. you will see these murders being covered up. at the border, it is a big problem. media, including the washington journal, did not tell the truth.

you are responsible for trump winning more than anybody. so i appreciate you doing it. host: all right. here is an article from nbc news. house democrats says trump campaign has refused to commit to a smooth transition by not working with the administration. it says that representative jamie raskin of maryland, the top democrat on the house oversight committee warned that trump's failure to enter an agreement on a presidential transition could endanger the peaceful transfer of power. you can see that at nbc news.com. in new york, the line for democrats. good morning. go ahead. caller: good morning. people here to understand what

trump did in 2016. this belongs to the people of our country. they see or feel what he is saying in this country. there is something wrong. we cannot vote for him. he is not fit for the presidency. host: here is don in missouri, republican. caller: the coincident with the photo op. host: say that again? what? caller: the photo op that he had with the reporter? host: the photo op with the reporter? is that what you said? caller: excuse me. lewiston. host: ok.

go ahead. what else did you want to say? caller: they -- from what i can see, lewis was the lt. col.. he should have had some sort of college. in the area where they were shooting. host: and here is mike in dover, arkansas, independent line. caller: i would like to thank donald trump for coming out of the closet. any man that would talk about another man's genitalia has got to be gay. host: in maryland, ohio, democrat. caller: i have been sitting here listening to calls and i would just like to remind every u.s. citizen that when he broke the law -- we would go to jail. we have the republican candidate

running for president. he has broken many laws. why is he so special? criminals cannot be president. thank you. host: let's talk to julie in meridian ville, alabama, republican. caller: hi. i just want to say that all the media has done is trash trump, and the thing about it is that he was president before. and we did not have all of this mess. it is ridiculous. i am a woman. i think a woman president would be great. but we have got to have strong women, smart women, that can answer questions, that have not had babies with their husbands,

have not cheated and had babies with nannies, people like margaret thatcher. host: here is stone mountain, georgia, independent line. caller: how are you? host: doing ok. how about you, victor? caller: i'm doing great. it is time. it's time for a woman to lead this country. no, we have had 46 presidents, all male, most of them white males. and it is time for a woman to lead this country. i feel like they can do it better than a man can. men have done too much. some men did good. some, not so good. let a woman try. but her give it a shot. i think she can do just as good as a man can. i think it is time for a woman to be president of the united states of america.

thank you. god bless you. host: democrat. caller: good morning. i think the country is in a state where we are not focusing on the issues. we are focusing on the personalities. i think that might be a mistake. i think joe biden did a great job. he was not perfect. obama did a great job and he was almost perfect. voting for a race is not a good idea. voting for someone that at the time is right for the job. and there is a big problem with the border and a big problem with the economy and a big problem with russia, north korea, etc.. i think people should vote on the issues, not whether they are

male or female. i think congress and the senate are there. and they have limitations so we don't get a dictator. maybe the cycle -- it might be time to find someone who can temporarily set us back on track and can do a better job of bringing us together internally. right now, the external problems are so great i wish we had a third candidate. we don't. i just don't feel comfortable with someone, unfortunately, that is trying to be obama when they are not obama. i'm not comfortable with someone who thinks they know everything. if we can get a president that realizes he has to be the toughest guy in the room, hiring the best people around him to make the decisions, because no one can possibly know everything about everything -- host: all right. let's go to charlotte in london, kentucky. republican.

caller: i have just been really upset about all the misinformation about the border bill. what they don't understand is that trump did not stop a border bill. six democrats voted against that border bill. it allowed 5000 immigrants in a day. up to 8000 people a day on the road to citizenship. and i feel there is a lot of disinformation about the border bill. host: alonzo in fairhope, alabama, independent. caller: good morning. i thank you for taking my phone call. just to elaborate as an american citizen, we tend to not understand the importance of facts and logic. the professor was very logical,

very informative. it seems like people just did not understand that you have to look at it from a standpoint as it makes sense. right now, donald trump -- he was fired. in his timeframe, he was there when covid came. he did not do a good job. that was an enemy that no one saw, but he failed as a president. and now we want to act like we forgot that? almost 2 million people died because of his mismanagement. and you want to talk about the economy was good? he was putting people in the ground. people have amnesia toward this. it does not make sense to me. how can you put somebody in the position of a free world who does not have empathy, does not show logic. if you vote for someone like

that, what type of person are we? host: some information here for you from "the washington times." shrapnel injures reporter's arm after democratic senate candidate shoots weapon at campaign event. the u.s. senate campaign event at a firing range went awry when a bullet fragment struck a tv reporter in the arm. democratic candidate lucas kunz gave first aid to the journalist. he is challenging republican senator josh hawley of missouri. he was at a five it residence north of kansas city with former senator adam kinzinger and other supporters, who were shooting metal targets with air 16 firearms at a distance that some said was too close. thomas, wichita, kansas, democrat. caller: thank you for taking my

call. i've been this into all the stuff about immigration over the past several years, and i feel it is time for me to speak up and express my views on this whole immigration thing. first of all, illegal immigration has been going on for decades, not one or two presidents. and number two -- let me get right to the chase, what i'm trying to get to. we have, what, 10, 12, 13, 14 supposed illegal immigrants in the country. let me tell you something in my study demographics-- i study demographic. the united states could handle another 40 million to 69 people before we get crowded, and that's not counting the last -- 60 million people before get credit, and that's not counting alaska. most of us are too complacent and lazy. you find an immigrant, go out there and they will find enough

work to feed, clothe, and house themselves. having said all that, the united states isn't finished growing. at the risk of controversy, i will tell you how. in the next 200 to 300 years, we will add about five new stars to the star-spangled banner. we've got plenty of room here. people don't think we have enough room for more immigrants, let them come to the middle west and you will see what open space is, especially in the great plains where i live. now, five new stars to our flag will be puerto rico and the virgin islands, that will be a new state. puerto rico almost as a state right now. all its residents our citizens, they can come and go in the country as they please. that will be the first star. the second star will because to recover. all the currency there -- the second star will be costa rica. all the currency there is american currency.

the next two stars will be two northeastern american states united states will and ask -- annex. i base all of this on a book i read and i give credence to this book -- host: thomas, asked to move on to randy, republican. caller: thank you for taking my call. i'm a republican, but i know i've had two risks on my home from hail damage and when i had it done. both times the mexican crew came in ended it all in one day. i agree that if they deported everybody, they would -- there wouldn't be anybody to put the roofs on. but shame on us white people. but anyway, i think they should just deport -- start with

criminals. if somebody does something wrong, deport them, and remember that obama deported a lot of people, and so did clinton. it hasn't just started now. thank you. host: here is charlie, independent. caller: how you doing, and want to make two points. his last two callers were right on. the danger of skate grooming --scapegoating immigrants and seeing it as a panacea for all problems -- we benefit from these immigrants, we benefit a lot. trump is a trojan horse. he knows our nation needs a lot of change and he says he's going to do that, but he has his own agenda. just like his first presidency, he has his own agenda, that of a millionaire. we can't trust him. am i saying he is it look -- he is hitler? no, he is hitlerish.