♪ host: it is the washington journal and the first in november. four days until election day.

as always, stay close to c-span.org and the free c-span video app for the latest from the candidates and their running mates. tell us your thoughts on the current state of campaign 2024. call us on the following lines if you support the harris ticket, (202)-748-8000. if you support the trump ticket, (202)-748-8001. if you support neither where you are undecided at this point, (202)-748-8002. you can text us at (202)-748-8003 or post on facebook at facebook.com/she c-span and on x at @cspanwj . the candidates will be the the next days, this is from the

journal sentinel this morning saying the vice president on friday evening will hold a rally at the wisconsin state fair exposition center, according to an event posting. former president trump will hold a competing rally friday evening six miles away at the fiserv forum. you will remember that is the site of the republican national convention. both candidates make a final push in the battleground state ahead of tuesday's election. when it comes to some we can defense to keep track of, the observer highlighted the fact this morning that former president trump will spend the weekend to north carolina, including a stop in the charlotte area. there will be a rally in gastonia on saturday. the event will be held at noon at the airport, according to the campaign announcement, as trump rallies supporters anscduled to hold a rally in greensboro saturday night, and then when it

comes to vice president harris, she will be traveling to pennsylvania, the headline saying that it is on monday night, that vice president harris will hold an election in front of the philadelphia museum of art. and that is according to the philadelphia inquirer, as well. call us about the current state of the race at (202)-748-8000 if you support the harris-walz ticket. (202)-748-8001 if you support the trump-vance ticket. if you are going to support neither candidate or are undecided, (202)-748-8002. and text us at (202)-748-8003. as always, stay close to our website at c-span.org, and our free video app, c-span now, where you will find a archives of all the events we are taking in.

and those are options you can do as you keep track of campaign 2024. deborah, north carolina, supporter of president harris, go ahead. caller: good morning. yes, i'm supporting the harris-walz ticket. people need to take a long look at donald trump and understand our democracy is at stake. i have great nieces and nephews who will be growing up in a country where things are going to be different for them. i'm 67, i've seen quite a bit. the fact that mr. trump has this affinity to disrespect women and to scream that he would like to make sure that women are held under the thumb of men, that's one of the reasons i voted for

harris-walz. host: james, maine, line for those who support the trump-vance ticket, hello. caller: yes, hello. it took me a long time to decide who i was going to vote for. i sometimes vote democratic, sometimes republican. i'm a registered republican. but this year, i was having a really hard time with it. i just subscribes to some democratic magazines, and the use a lot of scare tactics about trump. i listen to republican radio, and the republican radio people kind of made me think maybe trump was the better choice, but i had a really tough time with this one. thank you. host: james in massachusetts. both of those calls mentioning the idea of anxiety, and a

recent poll at the associated press saying americans are frustrated and anxious about this upcoming election. here are the results saying the majority of adults are feeling anxious, saying the percentage of adults for those who feel excited about the election, 61% say that does not describe them this time around, versus 36% saying it does when it comes to interested in the election, 24% say that describes them, and 25% says it does. when it comes to being asked if they were frustrated by the election, 65% say that is the sentiment they feel versus 29%, and then anxious, 69% of the respondents say they were anxious about the election and 28% say that does not describe them this election cycle. that is from the associated

press. you can see that. frederick, new york, supporter of the harris-walz ticket. caller: saying that does not describe them, 75 -- host: you are on, go ahead, frederick. caller: i asked if they were frustrated -- host: like i said, you are going to have to turned on your television. for those waiting, if you would not mind turning down the television and not depending on that feedback, it makes the conversation go a lot smoother. andrew says neither candidate he is supporting. go ahead. caller: my question is for normal people just working their jobs, when they see a lot of these political events and rallies, if it is foreign to them, sometimes it is weird or awkward. i noticed candidates are moving into new media, doing podcasts, doing the kind of things people consume on a more regular basis, especially young people.

i've also heard, and i would like to know if this is true, the trump-vance ticket is getting a lot more traction on that new media, and i'm wondering why? host: at this point, you support neither candidate? undecided? tell us what. caller: i'm undecided because i don't think that there is a complete answer that has been given from either campaign yet, and i would like to wait until he finish the campaign before i decide. host: what do you mean a complete answer? caller: it takes the full campaign to let the discussion play out on a lot of these issues. host: so you will that decision by monday night? caller: by tuesday morning. host: ok. andrew pennsylvania, giving us his thoughts on when he will make his decision. you have seen stories about the

various podcasts both candidates have appeared on recently, not only the main candidates but there buys presidential running mates. you can factor that into the mix as we hear from janice, tennessee, supporter of vice president harris. hello. caller: hello. host: you are on. caller: good morning. harris and they want trump in there, what he did before, what is he going to do now? horse? -- worse? take away our voting rights? host: janice tennessee, giving us her thoughts. if you go to real clear politics, they have that section where they tried to determine where the favor is going this time around. when it comes to the averaging,

they list the polling there, but when you take those and average them out, it is former president trump with 0.3% advantage at this point of the contest. when it comes to battleground states, the average aggregate for the former president is 0.9%, taking a look at the specific state of arizona, mr. trump with a 0.9% advantage in nevada, vice president harris with advantages in wisconsin, and 0.8% in michigan, and then former president trump with that zero point 3% advantage in pennsylvania, north carolina, and georgia at this stage. these are the aggregates of various polls that are taken. you can take a look at what makes that up and the real clear politics site, if you would like to look at that. joanne, massachusetts, supporter of former president trump, good morning.

caller: good morning. i would just like to say i don't know how harris can go on tv and say that trump is unstable. she is unstable. all she talks about is nothing, and that is what i think of her. she talks nothing about the policies. she has all of bidens policies. i would also like to say, how can she put her head on the pillow at night and think of all the people who have been killed at the border? she never talks about the border. she is unfit to be president, and that is how i feel. i'm really disgusted with her. thank you. host: joanne in massachusetts for our line for people who are voting for neither candidate or perhaps they are undecided at this time. from pennsylvania, one of those battleground states a lot of people are watching. you will hear from gary. hello. caller: hi, pedro. i'm leaning a little bit towards

kamala harris on a number of factors. first was that statement made about puerto ricans that was in bad taste, whoever that guy was who did that. we still have four days. i guarantee you that a lot of latino and puerto rican voters are going to change their minds. he also made a statement that was on cnn this morning, where he said that he would seek liz cheney -- sit liz cheney across from me and put a 15 barrel gun or something like that. that is going to really anger dick cheney, who is going to rally more republicans towards kamala harris. really, i'm leaning towards that further harris-walz ticket, and by sunday, i should be able to make up my mind. thank you. host: that is scary in pennsylvania, former president trump in phoenix with statements

made that the caller had referenced, here's the ap headline, trump says liz cheney might not be "such a war hawk with a gun pointed at her." here's a portion from yesterday. [video clip] >> i don't blame him for sticking with his daughter, but his daughter is a very dumb individual. very dumb. she is a radical war hawk. with nine barrels shooting at her, let's see how she feels about it, if the guns are trained at her face. the war hawks, when they are sitting in washington, let sent 10,000 troops right into the mouth of the enemy, but she's a stupid person, and i have meetings with a lot of people, and she always wanted to go to war with people, so whether it is her, i was surprised a little

bit with dick cheney. i did not know him at all. i only essentially had the one or two phone calls, and it was a phone call saying thank you very much for doing that, and scooter libb e, by the way could not believe that it happened. they should have done that for him years before, but i was little surprised because i actually thought that dick cheney would go with me over his daughter, and he did not. i understand it, but she is a bad person. host: those are the comments from yesterday regarding liz cheney. liz cheney posteon x in response saying this is how dictators destroy free nations. they threaten those who speak against them with death, cannot interest our country and freedom to a petty and unstable man who would like to be a tyrant. those are the comments and thoughts from liz cheney from

yesterday's reaction. let's hear from massachusetts, supporter of vice president harris. jerry, city sits. caller: good morning. there are so many issues that are going on. a lot of issues that are against trump are phenomenal. he led an insurrection against our country. he should not even be able to run as president and they are allowing him to run. he has six bankruptcies. people say he is good in business. he has had six bankruptcies, he defrauded the country, and they still hold him up to standing character. he is the worst character i've ever seen. and for people to downplay what harris has done, she has done a lot throughout her life, and she stands up for a lot of american people, and for anyone who thinks they are a patriot, or

anyone who thinks they are able to hold on to the sanctity of the united states, they should look really close to trump. remember billy bush and his comments that trump made, statements that he made. those were added to the onslaught of rhetoric that goes against him, and people listening to republican stations, they don't get that over again. host: joe, ohio, supporter of neither candidate, undecided line, go ahead. caller: hey, this is joe. i have got an absentee ballot, and the problem was that the three of us who got absentee

ballots, only half of them got their ballots, so i called down to the board, and they sent me another ballot, and i still have not gotten it. and the other two got their ballots because i have come down to florida for the winter. i'm just wondering if that is going to be a problem with the election this year. host: supporter of former president trump in california, hello. caller: good morning. i'm for trump because i can make money off of him, and that gives me more freedom with a job. as for the democrats, i don't believe in them and anyway they do stuff. i also believe that when he is elected, and there will be riots, it does not matter who wins, they will be riots. they are boarding up d.c. right

now and they expected. i would say this, we are going to go through trouble, we will get through it to the other side, and that should do it. host: this is where the vice president was yesterday, las vegas, north las vegas, joint appearance with the vice president there, but also the actress and singer j. lo. the vice president talking and directing supporters, here's a bit of that event in las vegas yesterday. [video clip] >> we all know who donald trump's, this is not someone thinking about how to make your life better. this is someone increasingly unstable, obsessed with revenge, consumed with grievance, and he is out for unchecked power. look, in less than 90 days, it

is either going to be him or me in the oval office. and here is the thing we know, and this is part of what we are fighting for because we have the image of what it could be, it will not be, but what it could be if he was elected. if you were reelected on day one, donald trump would walk into that office with an enemy list. when i'm elected, i will walk in with a to do list on behalf of you. [end video clip] host: that event available at c-span.org, our free video app at c-span now. kansas, supporter of vice president harris, hello. caller: good morning.

i was shocked to hear the news this morning that somebody is a felon, and somebody that is calling for the murder of somebody can be running for president, so i like harris, i like that she is focusing on health care and prices, and she is standing up to dictator, and how do we have somebody that is threatening the life of people running for president? really, i don't understand. thank you. host: supporter of former president trump, bradley, west virginia. caller: good morning, c-span. it is kind of early here, raining. when i turned 75, i changed from democrat to republican. i hated to do it, the democrats got so out of line, just like the lady who was just on,

talking about trump going to shoot cheney. i did not see it that way. i had seen cheney had a gun in her hand, there were seven pointed at her, and he was trying to make a point on how brave she would be if she was in battle. that is in war. it is sad, and i have got another thing. how is the government going to pay for all these border runners, is what i call them, and not raise taxes? where's the money coming from? are going to write checks and they bounce? and like the twitter guy, if that is what he would like to do, you know, getting awards out or something, that is fine, but they have blown that out of proportion. they have blown the portion out of biden, saying everybody was garbage. it is a shame that the

politicians cannot have better voices of other politicians, no matter whether democrat or republican, they have got to run their mouth, diarrhea of the mouth. it a full. host: marshall, illinois, supporter of vice president harris, hello. caller: good morning, america, thank you for taking my call and for this wonderful service you provide all of us. i cannot think of any other channel out there that allows us to do this. it is important that we all hear from each other. when i was growing up in the 1970's and 1980's in school, i recall we constantly would hear how in our history classes, we would be blaming the german people saying, how could you let hitler come to power? how could you be so blind to it? we were caused reminded of that and the german people had to

apologize for decades. i feel like this is our hitler's moment. and all the writing is on the wall about this man. i just ask my fellow americans, look in the mirror. and if you are thinking of voting for him, it is not really a reflection of him in donald trump, it is a reflection of you. do you hold those values? is that truly who you are? if that is who you are, that really saddens me that you are a fellow american and that is all i have to say, thank you for the opportunity. host: this is ed, line for supporting either candidate or undecided at this point, go ahead. caller: good morning. sorry i'm going to be the one to tell c-span listeners the biggest news story this year, is

that two scientific journals have given a date [indiscernible] , this century, 2056. host: how does that relate to campaign 2024? caller: the democrats, they are trying, and the republicans will not use science. you cannot use science on abortion and not climate change. host: you are saying you are voting for neither candidate or you are undecided, why? caller: because the democrats are right, but they cannot explain it. they cannot talk or communicate. the republicans are combining church and state, and the democrats cannot explain that. they do not want to tell people,

which i understand, but do not combine church and state. the first amendment -- host: ok, this is from the associated press this morning, regarding the white house and the garbage comments from president biden, reporting that the transcript released by the press office rendered a port with anapostrophe, saying supporters with anapostrophe rather than supporters without one, which aims to talk about the comedian, and it was made after the confirm the president according to an internal email from the head of the stenographers office obtained by the associated press, the authenticity of the email was confirmed by two government officials spoke on the and anonymity, and the supervisor in

the mail called a press conference handling a breach of protocol and spoilation of transcript integrity between the stenography and press offices, going on to say that if there is a difference in interpretation, the press office may choose to hold, but cannot edit it independently, writing that the transcript related to the national archives is no different than the version edited and released to the president by press office.. there is more there and that associated press story and you can find it online. all part of campaign 2024, (202)-748-8000 if you support the harris-walz ticket. (202)-748-8001 if you support the trump-vance ticket. if you are supporting either candidate or undecided, (202)-748-8002. a supporter of vice president harris, minnesota, hello. caller: morning.

i like with the caller from illinois said about how to get that far? i grew up in germany, and to me, a big sign of an autocrat is they know it all. don't take note advice, do not apologize. they think themselves perfect, and people around him, and loyalty is a one-way street. only expecting loyalty, but don't give it back. normally, i call independent, but in this case, it is important. and good luck to us. host: sherry, indiana, a

supporter of former president trump, hello. caller: i don't even know where to start, support and truly believe that president trump is what our country needs now. the caller from illinois, we need to open our eyes and he's right on a certain part of that, only because the media for eight years, the media and democrats have been brainwashing america that president trump is bad. that was obvious from the call from the lady from virginia or georgia earlier, who says he does not like women and he's always putting women down. that is not true. he had more women in his administration more than any other democrat in history, so people are getting too much of what they believe from the media and democrat party, and they sound like politicians and the media would never lie to us, right?

i was disappointed when the guy called and said president trump was charged with insurrection, nobody was, and that is probably why people don't trust the media, because you don't call it out when you see it. everybody has their opinions, but at the same time, i have heard on c-span before, people being corrected, that's not true, but that never seems to be the case when it is on the other side. i hope people can really soul search. the only thing i watch on fox news is the five and then i switch over to newsnation, and i try cnn to make sure to have all sides and stories, and i encourage everybody to do that. host: brian on the undecided line massachusetts, good morning. caller: yeah, i was undecided until i heard your last caller talk about how trump was a fascist. he governed like ronald reagan and kennedy by cutting taxes,

deregulating and supporting the military. fascism is the definition of a government that uses the military to control people, so i don't know what the hell democrats are talking about. host: it sounds like you were decided before you called. caller: i was decided after i heard your radical caller called in and call trump a fascist when he is not. host: you can call in, the lines are for the harris-walz ticket, the trump-vance ticket, undecided. (202)-748-8003, text us if you wish, and on facebook.com/c-span , you can post on x that -- @cspanwj. you can call the lines that test represent you. if you have done so within the last 30 days, hold off from

doing so today, and then as always, if you are online are waiting, turn your television off if you wish so that there is no feedback or interference. ohio is next, supporter of former president. rich, and marion. caller: after 9/11, people said never, ever, ever with the ever do that again. well, we have people coming in from china, russia, north korea on what they are going to go after. just close the border. we have generals sitting here trying to figure out what to do, just close the border. and now we know it is coming at us, and people are not closing the border, that is why trump is

going to be the right person to put in there, and maybe we would not need to see people dying. host: the olanta journal-constitution reports this morning when it comes to election results next week, saying that results in georgia will come in faster than ever after the polls closed tuesday night, giving the nation an early look at which rate a critical swing state is leaning right after 8:00 in the evening, early and absentee votes for president, three quarters of all votes will be posted online and brought past after election results unlikely finish before midnight. the results are required to any state law that calls for early votes and most absentee votes to be reported within one hour of post closing. legislators mandated the early results, helping to address early suspicions about fallacy. and this year, georgia is one of

the quickest counted states in the nation and that does not necessarily mean whether the former president would win on election night. that is the atlanta journal constitution if you would like to see the story. in ohio, sarah, supporter of vice president harris, hello. caller: hi, good morning. i'm supporting harris when i go and vote on november 5. there was a professional economist on msnbc this morning, supporting harris. i did not listen completely to what she had to say, so i had to tune in to c-span, and i would like to comment on the economy that biden was given, and he is a democrat. he worked his way out of the terrible pandemic we had, and i'm not disappointed because i'm

a democrat, i feel the democrat always had a good economy headed over to the republicans, and that was explained by barack obama because he said he had to president trump, and he messed it up, so now we are digging our way out of the pandemic and a rotten economy that he could not handle with the pandemic either, so, yes, i'm going to vote and stay with democrats. host: we will hear from dan next. go ahead. caller: hi, thank you for having me on. i think this morning, i mean, i see it every single day, but this morning really hits home as far as why the american public are so up in arms and are so on one side or another.

the reason is this. trump has talked about liz cheney because she is a warmonger, and she likes to go to wars. he was putting into perspective how would she feel if she was the one being at war, right? that is exactly what he said talking to tucker carlson, but you have this morning, on programs like this morning joke where have professors, everyone the left would want to listen to fairfax, every single one of them stating that donald trump wanted to kill liz cheney and that is what he was going to do. pedro, you sat there when a caller said the same thing, and you said nothing. do you have a comprehensive problem? something this important, and

you have the media and the public being misled thinking trump would like to kill liz cheney. that is unacceptable, completely unacceptable. host: dwight, california, supporting either candidate or undecided. hello. caller: good morning, washington journal. yes, pedro, i'm not supporting any of the candidates. i have not loaded for a presidential candidate since barack obama, and i have no clue to where they even give us choices on who to choose from, it is utterly ridiculous. i have voted already, absentee here in california. we have a lot of things going on here, especially on the down ballots that we have going on and school boards, trustees,

city council, etc. things in washington, d.c., in my opinion, it is too much money involved. i'm listening to the right and left, and everybody is correct on one side and wrong on the other, and america is doing all this internal fighting, and it does not make any sense. one last thing, i hear people talking about policy all the time. we are under the rules of law. the president can set a policy anytime he would like to. if it is not law, then the next president who comes can change it, so until legislators, congress and the senate get together and pass laws, nothing is going to change. host: ok, dwight in california, giving us his thoughts. you can send us texts, posting on social media. the caller mentioned down ballot

issues, and one of those is pro-choice. usa today saying that it is on the ballot in three states, saying that the ballot item in colorado and kentucky proposed adding language, supporting language and constitutions but neither lays out specifics, saying that if the colorado and kentucky measures pass, they were joined states that already have some form of school choice language on the book, according to education week. it also highlights a measure to aim and repeal a $10 million school voucher program that a state legislature passed this year, putting that decision in the hands of voters. usa today is where you will find that story when it comes to the down ballot and initiative issues across the. virginia, john, supporter of vice president harris. caller: i'm shocked the previous

caller that is accusing you of why you don't respond. they think they know everything. they don't know what they listen to. the recent called, the reality is, they make one time a state, the next time, they don't. donald trump, you make a mistake, and you become a president. i grew up and the issue is not about whether or not donald trump should be president or not. the president has some kind of dignity he runs with the country. donald trump does not have that. insulting women is not policy. and i'm sick and tired of those people calling and saying that what donald trump did against females is acceptable. if you have a wife and

daughters, take about one minute. if someone talked to your daughter that way, you have to understand one thing, america, you don't know what you have, believe me, the freedom that you have. you think this freedom comes easy? it did not. host: david in maryland, supporter of former president trump, hello. caller: thank you for taking my call, i'm totally eight trump fan. when trump was there, the economy was great, our supporters -- are borders or secure. that last guy talking about what he did was ridiculous. anyone who is a harris supporter, they are asinine. she is going to make our country a communist country, she is anti-god, anti-america, and we don't need that. we are not running for that. even in the year 2024. and trump, he is a great guy.

when he was in there eight years ago, he had done a regular job, and kamala harris is nothing but a liar. you are for taking my call. host: florida, supporter of vice president harris, you are next. caller: i'm from pensacola, florida. host: you are on, go ahead. caller: i wanted to ask all the trump supporters, where were they at one cubans flocked to florida and south florida and stol lack -- stole black's jobs, and obama was out

there, calling and saying that obama was not born in the united states of america, he is a racist as all get out, and he is just like adolf hitler, and i'm a moderate republican, and i'm voting for kamala harris, and i already voted for kamala harris, and these far right-wing radical republicans are nothing but garbage. host: ray, tennessee, supporter of president trump, hello. caller: hello, yes. my comment is that the republican party is a communist party. bottom line. i'm 80 years old, vietnam

veteran, and i'm sitting in my living room watching wheel of fortune, and they are sending people to hanoi for vacation. that is the same thing with the man who fought in afghanistan. they are going to do the same thing. donald trump would like a strong military so we don't have to go to these foreign wars and lose american people. that is common sense, basic knowledge, and if the democrats can, than they are paranoid people. host: political reporting as of last evening that with four days until the election, if donald trump would like to engage nikki haley, the last candidate to drop out during the primaries, and remains on standby for the trump campaign, and has focused

on the media, but at a time when democrats have been courting so-called hayleigh voters, republicans cast the vote in gop primaries, and so far chose not to schedule y appearances with the former un ambassador in the final stretch, adding that the trump and hayleigh teams have remained in contact about appearing together. a spokesperson for hayleigh did not return requests for comment, deciding the former president has been largely dismissive of the former idea. in california, supporter of former president trump, talking about campaign 24. good morning. caller: hello, good morning, pedro. calling in support of donald trump, i voted for him the first time. also because this country will be able to see the effects in our lifetime, also the fact that

he got shot a couple of months ago, and he is still confident. you don't see him running around with a vest or is overly paranoid. he's more visible, seemed going to work every day, talking about policies. i may -- i'm a black male, and i feel like a lot can relate to him. one, i'm a felon, two, he is a felon, and two, he has children with alterable women, nobody is perfect, and if i was running this campaign, it would say donald trump, america's choice, america's answer. thank you for allowing me to speak this morning. host: ohio next, supporter of vice president harris, go ahead. caller: good morning, america. i support harris and tim walz.

i voted early. i'm curious, where is downey junior -- donnie junior, ivanka, jared mark where they asked to stay awake or do not support him? in regard to the man from ohio, which i am from, i had never heard of vance until he turned up on the scene, he called trump hitler, and trump thinks he has a cool beard, so that is why he is going to be running with him as vice president. and god and trump just plain don't go together. host: yesterday, donald trump was at high point diversity in a forum with younger voters and then spoke about with the next election to him means. voters. [video clip]

>> i think young voters have the most to lose or the most to gain from getting the election right or wrong. one of the things that worries me when i hear kamala harris because i hear a person who does not have strong or sincere views about what she would actually like to do, setting aside policy disagreement you have with kamala harris, and i have a lot, by the way, policy this agreement you may have with barack obama, and i have a lot there, what i would say for barack obama but not kamala harris, is he actually has beliefs and thoughts and his head for how he would like to govern the united states of america and i don't think you could say that about kamala harris. the problem there is that person becomes an empty vessel for whatever the prevailing efforts that are prevailing in washington, d.c., r, and one of the prevailing ideas that affects young people's number one, we should use our young people as cannon fodder for foreign military misadventures

that are going to get a lot of your peers killed unless we have a smarter foreign policy. i think you guys have a lot to lose because we are on the precipice of many broad, regional wars, potentially even a world war. would you like a person that kamala harris negotiating in private rooms with people at vladimir putin and xi jinping? or would you like a guy like donald trump sticking up for the united states of america? the answer is obvious. the second prevailing idea in washington, d.c., is we should let in millions upon millions of illegal immigrants to compete against young americans for important jobs, to undercut the wages of american workers, and it is american workers of every color and background, but we have to recognize that when you let and aliens upon millions of illegal aliens, it severely undercuts the wages of people, especially those entering the workforce, which is true of every person in this room.

[end video clip] host: that is available at the website and app. deborah, maryland, undecided. hello. caller: good morning, c-span. i appreciate hearing the views from my fellow americans. typically, i vote on policy and the policies of the candidates. this is whether i'm voting for senate or president. i really believe that climate change is one of the major issues of our time. i now going to my school, i'm a schoolteacher, and never in my life have i seen 80 degrees temperatures on halloween. and one of the important things that the president does is he allows different people to

control branches of government that affect all of us, like the fda, department of housing, and if we really do not get our climate change policy under control and try to meet the standards of the international standards for what we have to do, our world is going to change for our children and in children so that the idea of a white christmas or any of these things is going to be a thing of the past, and one of the reasons why that is so important is even though we have a lot of movement we think because of migrants coming in or immigrants coming in, it will completely change our way of life if we don't get things under control, and the president, he or she, will

control the outcome of the epa in particular for the next four years. it is so critical that we have someone who understands the science of what is happening. host: mississippi, supporter of vice president, tracy, hello. caller: good morning. host: you are on. caller: yes, i have one question. i'm going to ask a question to america. how are you all voting for trump when he has not been anything the last four years that he was in office? i think the government system is messed up for letting him be on the ballot as a president running for president, and i'm voting for kamala harris and tim walz, and thank you. host: governor tim walz was in pennsylvania yesterday, campaign stop there, talking about economic policy. here is a portion from yesterday. [video clip] >> pennsylvania created over

560,000 jobs [applause] . and she sat on the mall yesterday, spoke and looked like a president talked about unifying country, and she laid out a list of what she was going to do going forward because you know she will do it. she will go into the white house with a to do list, not an enemy list. starting by putting more money back in your pocket. that is the priority every single day. for starters, we will announce the price gouging that all groceries. here are a couple of examples of price gouging. we have a hurricane coming, they are telling you to get out of florida, and airline tickets went through the roof. that is not capitalism, free-market, or ethical, that is

price gouging. grocery prices are up, guess what? our farmers, my farmers in minnesota, went grocery prices were lower, they were getting about four bucks, and now they are really high, and farmers are getting about four bucks a bushel. you get it, price gouging. 37 states, democrats and republicans, and then we will focus the tax cuts on the middle class. [applause] reducing childhood poverty with the tykes credit we -- with the child tax credit we propose. [end video clip] host: to give you a rundown of what to expect today as part of campaign 2024 coverage, continuing with jd vance in michigan. you can see that at 1:00 this afternoon on the platform at

3:30 this afternoon, governor tim walz will be in flint, michigan, and then later on, former president trump expected to speak to supporters in warren, michigan. and then governor tim walz on c-span2, see him in detroit as they continue making their case up to election day. jd vance in carolina, later on c-span2, and then tonight in wisconsin, this is kamala harris . you can follow along on the main channels, c-span1 and 2, our video app, c-span now, and as part of our coverage there, rachel, north carolina, supporter of former president trump, hello. caller: yes, hi. my name is rachel from north carolina. god bless you all today. i hope you all are praying about

the right choices to make for this campaign. the only thing i can say is that ms. harris, vice president harris, i got a phone call yesterday from her campaign saying that at our polls on tuesday, there would be a party. that is the clarity in what i have with what she has set forth. we had the hurricanes in the mountains, pushing all this electric vehicle stuff, people would have been down without vehicles at that point, yes, it is just regulation on climate change and stuff, but you have to think outside the box sometimes. the only thing i have a definite on what she has proposed before us is that she will sit down at the table, and we are having a party at our polls, so let's pray about the selection, and

everybody have a blessed day. host: sharon, supporter of vice president harris, in oregon. caller: i just have a couple of points. the first one, it is always brought up, were you better four years ago? we were not. four years ago, we were locked in our homes, you could not bite toilet paper, people were dying by hundreds of thousands, we were being told to drink bleach. i'm a lot better now. i can go out, i can buy stuff, etc. also, let's look back at trump's track record in the two big things he did, a big tax cut that i far helped the top 1%, which i'm not. i'm a retired person. it did not help me at all. the second thing he did was set

tariffs, which he had to spend millions of dollars to prop up the farmers because they lost their chinese and the outlets to sell the products. that did not help us, and it raised prices. now he is talking about big tariffs again. haven't we learned from the last time when somebody does something and it does not work, why are you applauding it now? even the wall street journal says that his economic plan is far worse, the wall street journal, a republican paper. host: thomas, maryland-, undecided. caller: hello. yeah, i'm roughly undecided. i look at what folks are saying about the democratic party and

how they have been soft on border security issues, and i gave that consideration. i also look at the economy. i take that into consideration. i also take into consideration that job unemployment is at a historical low. i also looked at as a veteran myself, i look at really the consideration of former trump staff. i think about former vice president mike pence, he said trump is unfit to lead. i look at james mattis, these individuals are not far left individuals. these are conservative christian individuals, so as a former military member, even if i think sometimes maybe trump has may a decent economic plan, even

though he doesn't talk about it, or he says he will increase tariffs, which i think is not a great idea, i also look at what these individuals have said, and i'm like, ok, your former chief of staff and secretaries have said you are unfit to lead. i have to take that into serious consideration when making a decision. so that is it. host: one more call, alan, new york, supporter of former president trump, hello. caller: i'm calling from albany, new york. i voted for trump as soon as we were able to. the democratic party is controlled by george soros, who would like an open society, he would like wide open borders, and he is the democrats biggest donor, if you vote for kamala harris, they will keep the borders wide open. we have 20 million here already that invaded our country and our

spending hundreds and billions of our tax dollars supporting these people, and we will be supporting them for decades if we do not deport them. hundreds of billions of more dollars will be spent on them, and they will keep the borders wide open, they will not shove them if kamala harris gets in. if you would like that, vote for kamala harris. host: thank you to those of you whowe have been concentrating at the top of the ticket for the house and senate will be determined on who controls which body. joining us next to talk about that is david wasserman. we will look at some of the key races to watch as part of our campaign 2024 coverage. we will have that discussion when washington journal continues. ♪

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report, senior editor and elections analyst to talk about the house races and things connected to campaign bank 24. -- 2024. what is holding your attention most from here to tuesday? guest: the house is especially fascinating. we have a situation where democrats might have a better shot in the house. certainly then in the senate. their chances in the house of argued we improved a little bit in the last few weeks and months even as the presidential race has gotten tighter. we have seen harris's lead narrow. there are reasons democrats have an opportunity to flip control of the chamber. there are 221 republican seats, 214 democrat seats. democrat need to pick up four to make hakeem jeffries the speaker. the house is being fought on

friendlier terrain for democrats than the senate or possibly the electoral college. 16 republicans are running for reelection in districts that voted for joe biden four years ago and only five democrats running for reelection it democrats the votive that this trick that voted for donald trump. trump districts have decent brands. the 16 republicans, most are in two blue states were democrats underperformed in the 2022 midterms, california and new york. the second reason is you have a decent number of check and balance voters out there who dislike both presidents a candidate. they don't want either party going too far in the next congress. that dynamic in 2016 and 2020 was a lot of voters, particularly suburban independents and women want donald trump but they were open to voting for a more normal republican down ballot.

this year voters are conflicted about their expectations of who is going to win. to the extent the same voters want a check or insurance policy on trump going too far, they are opting for a democrat down ballot. we're noticing a handful of key races were democrats are outperforming harris in pulling. the third -- polling. house republicans have been a mess for the last two years. it took them 15 votes to elect a speaker last january. we have seen downstream fundraising from the leadership turmoil. democrats have clobbered republicans at the candidate fundraising level. a disparity unlike anything we have seen in a long time. the median, craddick and comment as of october -- the median incombent democrat had

raised just as much as the median income at republican. a lot -- incumbent republican. they have controlled it in the final weeks of the campaign. host: if you want to ask our guest questions about what to expect when it comes to the house race, senate race, top of the ticket, (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8002 for independents. you can text us at (202) 748-8003. if everything you said boils down to specific races that illustrate what you are talking about, where would you look to first? guest: when you add up all the seats that lean to democrats, 205 districts. when you add up all the seeds that lean towards the republicans, 208 districts. we have 22 tossup in the middle. our house editor has an excellent overview of all this

this morning at cookpolitical.com. we moved several race ratings, six in democrats favor and two in republicans. anthony d esposito on long island, brandon williams and syracuse, don bacon and omaha. -- in omaha are slight underdogs reelection. there are other vulnerable republicans who are polling even at best. people like john duarte in california's center valley. lori chavez-deremer in suburban portland. the insurance policy for republicans is open seats. republicans don't have any vulnerable open seats to defend. democrats have four. two in michigan. one of the seats we moved this morning is alyssa slotkin's in lansing. she's leaving to run for senate.

we believe republican tom barrett might be entering election day with a slight advantage over democrat curtis hurtell. that is why republicans might still be ever so slightly favorite for control of the chamber if you have the 22 tossup's break evenly down the middle, republicans would end up at 219, 216 for democrats. what we know from history is it is likely most of the top subs will break one direction. host: colorado's third district. guest: this is the seat where republican lauren boebert left to run in a much redder district on the opposite end of colorado. the democrat in the race, adam fish, he came within 504 votes of beating her never stopped running and raised over $14 million for this house race

because for much of the cycle he was running against boebert, probably the best fundraiser the democrats have ever had. now he's running against a more conventional republican, however pu -- an attorney named jeff hurd from grand junction. in 2022, it would never have been that close. because fresh has such a head start. that has kept it somewhat close. we believe the republican hurd has an advantage. host: you mentioned representative dunn bacon. what makes the race this type this time around? guest: in bresky by congressional district. this omaha seat has been

trending blue for some time. polls show kamala harris is a close favorite over donald trump to carry the one electoral vote from this district. that undertow could drag republican congressman don bacon under. he's been a survivor. he has been there since 2016. he has won the seat as joe biden was curing the district in 2020. this time around he has the same opponent as in 2022, state senator tony vargas. this has been a high dollar raise with democrats accusing bacon of getting closer to trump and the maga wing for endorsing the change that would have converted the state's electoral votes to winner take all. it was highly controversial in omaha. bacon is emphasizing bipartisan credentials. he has an ad featuring the widow of his democratic predecessor

brad ashford endorsing his reelection campaign and hitting the democrat as excessively partisan. host: david wasserman, a lot of information when it comes to the down ballot races. call the line that best represents you. beverly in wyoming, democrats line. good morning. guest: yeah. i was wondering why they don't have democrat candidates in wyoming. maybe if they had diversity they might have a free election. it is going to be so hard for these republicans to get a good base. they are all backing each other. the ones, the rhinos, i hope they win. guest: wyoming is a state where

the orientation of the at large district was really decided by liz cheney's reelection race in the republican primary a couple of years ago when she lost a harriet hageman. that moved the seat essentially from one that was a trump skeptic republican seat to say the least to a maga held seat. what we are noticing a lot of republican open seats, and there are 23 republicans who opted not to seek reelection this year, is the direction that republicans are headed overall depends a lot on who comes through the primaries. there are open seats work candidates allied with trump ended up availing and people like brandon gill in texas 26th

district, and we saw districts with more conventional conservatives who would have fit in the party in the pre-trump era prevail. people like julie put your check -- padorczack in north dakota. host: james in north carolina. caller: it reminded me when you are getting so excited about how much the democrats have outraised republicans. i was wondering if you care or if you thought about all the money people like george soros that hate our country and is really a bad guy that funds the democrat party in these deeply states -- deep blue states where they burn their cities down in 2020? this morning i saw on the ticker thing speaker johnson said there

are serious issues with the democrat party taking money from our adversaries. the democrat people are good people. my neighbors are good people. the party does not give a damn about america and will take money from anybody. host: money comes in from a lot of outside sources. talk about where the money is coming from and some of the races where the -- guest: there are bogeyman on both sides here. republicans love to point out the soros family. democrats are increasingly taking aim at the spending elon musk has injected into the super pac realm. yet there is a broader array of donors that are funding super pac's that are spending hundreds of millions of dollars, if not billions of dollars on races at all levels. those pac's have less of a punch

than the hard dollars that candidates spend. candidates are raising funds that are subject to limits and have access to better advertising rates than super pac's. one thing we noticed early on in the reset of the presidential race when kamala harris was nominated after joe biden withdrew from the race is that democrats leading super pac which will spend upwards of $600 million on this year's campaign -- don't get me wrong, there are comparably funded pro-trump pac's, but they launched a reintroduction ads introducing kamala harris as a change agent which is hard to do when you're talking about the sitting vice president. it was very effective in turning her image around from negat -- -16 where it had been for the

past couple of years to net neutral. now that we are finally seeing trump's ad take theirs toll in battleground states, we have seen harris's favorably come back down to maybe -2. that's an important difference between what we saw in august and september versus now in october. host: one race you highlight is minnesota's second district, angie craig versus joe terab. guest: get to see where republicans were hoping to give a democrat incumbent a tough race in the minneapolis suburbs. what we are seeing there is that the president of race is tighter than it was in 2020. joe biden carried district by seven points in 2020. i would not be surprised if kamala harris only won by four or five. we are seeing the democrat angie craig win comfortably or

lead come to be in the polls over teirab, a former federal prosecutor and also comes from a family of sudanese heritage. yet this is a prime example of where republicans have not been able to match democrats dollar for dollar. craig has raised $7.4 million this cycle to teirab's $2.6 million. she said a communication advantage in portraying herself as a bipartisan problem solver and her opponent as part and parcel of trump and the maga wing. host: the ones you don't mention specifically but you did mention in the introduction is the fourth district of new york. anthony de esposito. guest: this race has been rocked by scandal and revelations of de

esposito apparently putting his mistress and fiance's child on his congressional payrolls. long island has probably a higher tolerance threshold for patronage politics and most parts of the country. yet the democrat running against him who fell 3.5 point short in 2022 has run a much more aggressive campaign to get ahead of republican attacks that she is soft on issues. we expect there to be a higher nonwhite turnout then there was in the midterms. it's a district that somewhat half nonwhite. particularly in the five towns area of nassau county. if there is a more normal democratic turnout in those kinds of places, districts in and around new york city and l.a. and california's central valley, democrats would have a

better chance of taking back the house. host: ron from iowa on the democrats line. caller: i would like to hear his take on the race in the first district of southeast iowa. i will hang up and take his answer offline. guest: fantastic question. this is one of the races we are watching closely. marionette miller-meekes ran for the seat three times of forgetting elected. even though this district will likely vote for trump and voted for trump by about 3.4 years ago, -- three points four years ago, voters have not warmed up to the republican incumbent. she only won her first term by six votes by the closest house vote in the nation in 2020. the democrat here, christina

bohannon, is running a much more aggressive race this time, particularly on the abortion issue. marionette miller-meeks got a primary challenge from a religious conservative candidate who attacked her from the right. that really dented her favorability with republican voters. what we are seeing now is she's having a problem consolidating her own base heading into the general election which is giving the democrat bohannon an unusual opportunity. i would have guessed at the beginning the of the race would find its way to our top column. we are seeing polls that show it either tied or even bohannon with a small lead. if miller-meeks wins, it's only because trump's performance pushed her across the finish line. host: moishe from new york. caller: how do you look at polling? you interview people. when do you move things to the

tossups? can you give us details how you conduct interviews -- i mean polling? guest: to be clear, except for a series of swing states that we did in conjunction with the democratic and republican polling firm, we are not polling the districts. there is a lot of public data about the presidential race and coverage of how precarious polls are these days given low response rates. it is through the pollsters are having a harder time reaching voters. they are having to weight samples to adjust how they think the electorate will look at the end of the day. those assumptions may or not prove correct. all polls are subject to error. that has always been the case. the vast majority of data we are seeing is data that the parties have compiled privately. the reason why partisan polls

taken by the parties can often be better than a lot of the public service or of higher quality is that is what the parties are using to make investment decisions into where they will allocate their resources across a wide array of battleground districts. in some cases the parties' poll paint a similar picture. then others have a very different notion of where races stand. we are trying to see how everything lines up and making a best estimate over the races stand. there are always surprises on election night. host: you are known to say i have seen enough. what is that moment when you're analyzing data? what is the moment you make that conclusion? guest: there is not a hard and fast rule. i don't have a secret sauce. my approach is more straightforward than a lot of people think. i am taking a look at the data coming in at the county, the

precinct level, and assessing whether the trailing candidate has a reasonable path to overtaking the leader or not. if you have watched the races long enough, there are clear patterns across demographic groups, across geography that can give you a good idea of how races are shaping up early on election night. i will actually be part of a larger team on tuesday as i have been in every major election since 2008. i will be a consultant for the nbc news decision desk as a size of races at all levels. the challenge for the presidential year especially is there is so much data coming at you at once that if i were trying to do it myself there is too much to cover and is possible to make mistakes. i prefer to be part of a larger team to evaluate what's going on and communicate it to our on-air talent. host: we have been talking about

down ballot. what is your sense of where we are at the top of the ticket? guest: this is been the closest presidential race i have covered in my 17 years. we have got seven states that a basically tied over than a point or two point. that backs the question, who the heck are these 3% to 5% of people who still have not made up their minds after everything we have seen in the past 10 years? in our research what we have found is that these undecided or unsure or soft voters, they are disproportionately younger, they skew more female and a little more nonwhite than the rest of the electorate. in theory, that should give kamala harris more upside, except we also know these voters are less college-educated than the rest of the electorate, overwhelmingly independents who dislike both parties. they also have dim views of the candidate.

when we took our last survey in the battleground states we found that 68% agree with the statement that kamala harris is too liberal to serve effectively. 70% view trump as too out-of-control to serve effectively as president. these voters are cost-of-living and pocketbook voters. buy 55-26, they trusted trump more than harris to get inflation under control. she's had to try to neutralize that edge through her ads. what is the final week of this election about? we have not had any bombshell national news stories. it has been about things like madison square garden'and trumps final rally, another unforced error. if there is something you can always count on close to election day it is joe biden committing some type of gaffe. republicans believe his comment

or his verbal miscue has energized their base. it is tough to see either harris or trump winning without caring the state of pennsylvania. it is not only the largest electoral college prize of the seven states, it is consistently the closest state in the polls. joe biden only won pennsylvania by a point in 2020. harris lacks many familial ties that biden has to the state. he grew up in scranton. he was practically a senator from the philly suburbs for close to 40 years. she lacks some of the union endorsements he had. whether it was the teamsters for the international association of firefighters, those things matter in more blue-collar parts of the state such as lower bucks county where it was not an accident trump went to a mcdonald's and slung french fries. in the end, pennsylvania is a

state where if democrats fall short by a tiny margin, a lot will be wishing harris had picked governor josh shapiro as her running mate rather than governor tim walz. if trump full short, democrats performance with women will be the reason. host: as far as the blue wall states, at this stage what is the possibility the vice president will claim those states? guest: if you squint enough at the polling her best states have been michigan and wisconsin. pennsylvania has been a hair closer. trump has had an edge in many sun belt states by a point. arizona, georgia, north carolina. in wisconsin and michigan, democrats are really counting on blue-collar women who are pro-choice to stick with harris over trump. it is clear why democrats have

sought to frame this election around the dobbs decision and reproductive rights. it is an issue where especially in those great lakes battlegrounds democrats at the issue advantage. the question is whether enough of the swing voters really do see trump as an extremist on the issue or an unacceptable risk to take. after all, he has frustrated a number of christian conservatives by refusing to endorse a national abortion ban. even though democrats dispute this, he says he wants to preserve access to ivf and methyl crestone --which allows them to check the box on the issue and frustrate democrats. host: we continue with david wasserman. alan in north carolina on the republican line. caller: good morning, pedro. good morning, dave. i have a senate question and i have a house question at the end.

i am from north carolina so i think our senators are intact and i think they have a six-year term. there are four states i wanted to ask your opinion. pennsylvania with mccormick. tester in montana. i forget the guys name in nevada. the army veteran that was injured in afghanistan. ted cruz in texas. how do you see those races? my final question and i will take it off-line. i live in north carolina and i think patrick mchenry has decided not to run again. i am wondering when his term runs out. i will take my question off-line. guest: yeah, great series of questions. particularly north carolina.

kat harrigan is the republican likely to succeed -- virtually guaranteed to succeed patrick mchenry in the district. one thing republicans did was read through the congressional boundaries before this year's election. they gerrymandered them in their favor, which is going to net them at least three seats and possibly a fourth depending on the outcome in the first district held by democrat don davis. that is somewhat offset by new district boundaries in louisiana and alabama where the supreme court interpreted the voting rights act in a way that led to the creation of new black majority seats. my colleague has a fantastic overview of the state of play in the senate that went live on a website in the last hour. on those specific races, montana is the one that is really the focas of the senate.

if they were to win montana by beating jon tester, that would likely get an absolute majority of 51, which would guarantee that the majority regard this of who wins the white house. jon tester has run a race -- it is hard to criticize. he has run a really aggressive reelection race that has highlighted his roots in the state and try to contract them -- contrast them against her publican tim sheehy he will he moved to the state in 2014. the final democratic hail mary in the race as they see tester slide behind sheehy is the polls is ads featuring a navy seal that served with sheehy alleging he lied about where he got a bullet wound. he said he got it in afghanistan

when both the navy seal and a glacier national park ranger alleged that he received the bullet went by shooting himself in the arm in glacier national park. nonetheless, sheeh is maintaining a lead. in nevada, we have a race between the democrat jacky rosen, the incumbent, an army veteran sam brown. here is a case where money has made a big difference. brown, who has a heroic war story to tell, emerged from the republican primary in june broke. jacky rosen had a massive spending advantage on the airwaves for the first couple of months of the general election. she highlighted his position on abortion. he had previously run for office in texas. that a letter to establish a lead that looks like it is going to hold even as the state remains pretty much tied at the presidential level.

in pennsylvania, this is a race where we just moved the seat to the tossup column for lead democrat. republicans have made an ad push and had this many advantages democrats try to cast mccormick as a carpetbagger. host: assam think of pennsylvania to show her viewers. [video] >> i'm bob casey and i approve this message. >>, intimidation and retaliation. under dave mccormick the world's largest hedge fund was a dangerous place for women to work. they were sexually harassed or worse. in stead of protecting his female employees, mccormick protected his prophets, threatening one women if she ever spoke up she would be sued for the rest of her life. another was reminded he has the power to destroy her. that is ugly. that is dave mccormick. >> 9:00.

it's about to happen. every night under by the border patrol process is 6000 illegal migrants on this on the border. that is 8 million since biden took office. plus the once he got away. >> joe biden and bob casey give illegals a kind of benefits and you pay for it. it is not fair. biden and bob casey are too weak to stop it. i'm dave mccormick and i approve this message. host: there is a sample from the ad. guest: you are seeing dave mccormick co-opt a lot of trump's message. the question is, can he match trump's performance in regions of the state where there are still a lot of union democrats were casey's name means something because his dad was governor? please been at the senate seat since 2006. he's been a statewide office longer than that. the dynamic in the great lakes

battleground is not just pennsylvania but wisconsin, michigan. we are seeing democratic senate candidates outperform harris by just a little bit. that could prove decisive. it could keep these states in democratic column in the senate. the other state that has been interesting is texas. senator ted cruz took that ill-fated 2021 trip to cancun. that is coming up in democrat attack ads. colin alred has waged a well-funded campaign but it's a difficult state to win. cruz is raising more money than he did six years ago when he almost lost the beto o'rourke. democrats are not performing quite well enough with hispanic voters in south texas to have an even shot at winning

the seat. democrats need everything to go right for them to win texas. they have not done it since 1994, yet trump's inroads with culturally concerted hispanic voters has not only kept the state a clear trump favorite but also has helped cruz. host: john on the line for republicans from new jersey for david wasserman of cook political report. caller: thanks for all the hard work. i appreciate it. in 2016 and 2020, with the polls not being so close, especially on a state level and now with the polls being so close where they are going four days of alexion, can you see any state like virginia or new hampshire where trump could potentially outperform the polls? i'm not saying win but instead of that six or seven point margin it could be at two or three point margin?

that indicates where election that will go as well? i will hang up and listen. guest: great question. if donald trump came close to winning virginia or new hampshire or one of those states, it would be a tectonic break from everything we have been told by polls in this cycle which is that kamala harris has gained ground relative to biden in 2020 with white college graduates who make up big shares of the vote in virginia and new hampshire. donald trump has made inroads with black and hispanic voters, particularly men, younger voters and those identified as independents. that explains why he has made progress in polls in sun belt states where the voters are more numerous and why we have seen harris and before her biden doing relatively better in the great lakes battleground. early on election night i will

be watching virginia but for a different reason. we have two house races there that will tell us something about how the night is going. republican jan keegan running for reelection in the second district of virginia beach, and then the open seat in the seventh district where applico spam -- abigail spanberger is leading in the run for governor. that is a race where if democrats somehow egot a -- eak out a win it would portend a rough night for republicans. the seventh district, that's in the tossup column. eugene vindman, who he and his brother are famous whistleblowers from the first trump impeachment, he's raised a stunning amount of money but he's also got a tough republican opponent in retired green beret eric anderson.

this is a seat that democrats ought to be able to keep in the column. if the republicans flip it, that would portend possibly a good night for republicans' chances of holding the house. host: dawn in maryland. democrats line. caller: i have a question on the race -- the house race in pennsylvania with perry. he is running against a woman who was a former anchor on a local tv station. i wonder what is the status of that race. thank you very much. i will take my answer off the air. guest: this is a rare case where you have a freedom caucus leader on the republican side running for reelection in a swing district. perry has had some close calls before. this seat is a part offense of a number democrats believe they are gaining ground. it is harrisburg and suburbs.

particularly the westshore areas in cumberland county. you have the city of york. you have hershey where there's a medical center. it's attracting a lot of professional workers who are more sympathetic to democrats or at least not trump'type republicans. scott perry's cell phone was seized by the fbi in the aftermath of january 6 for his alleged role in coming up with ways for trump to overturn the election. that was really a motivating force for janelle stilson, a longtime former debbie gal -- wgal abc affiliate anchor to run. you are not seeing her message center on january 6 in the closing months. she has outraised perry significantly but she's pointing at. '-- perry's more iconoclastic

bulltick and spending bills to show he's out of the mainstream, such as votes against bills that would've funded first responders. perry is wearing his, you know, reputation as a rabble-rouser as a badge of honor in the race. he said i didn't go to congress to make friends. i would to congress to serve you. that is his appeal to independent voters. the polling has been very tight. stelson appears to be doing a hair better. they voted for trump by four points four years ago. if every does hold on the cycle and trump wins, he will be vulnerable again in 2026. host: new jersey, andrew. caller: hello. host: you are on. go ahead. caller: can you hear me? host: go ahead. caller: i go on opensecrets.org

about five times a week. i'm addicted to that site. they follow dark money and where -- they are trying to determine where campaign money is coming from. correct me if i am wrong. if a nonprofit is donating, do they have to disclose where the money is coming from? that is my question. guest: if we are talking about an actual campaign for house or senate, they have to disclose all the donors who have contribute more than $200 to the campaign. that is all on fec reports. if you're talking about an super pac, it's harder to trace the funds. these days it is hard to win a congressional seat unless you have outside help from a

well-funded super pac that can accept dark money or soft money. there are a few cases every year where you truly have a mom-and-pop campaign that doesn't have a big super pac ally or millions of dollars and still wins. an example with tim walz when he won his congressional seat in 2006. it can be harder to trace where the money is coming from. funded groups that are big spenders in this year's campaign. i don't know their ads are especially effective because a lot of these new players in the space have limited experience when it comes to persuading and turning out voters or knowing the messages that will actually move votes and protect the district. -- in particular districts. host: you released the best county to watch for this election. what was the importance of this? guest: i am trying to give

viewers at home a rough guide of how we are sizing up election night as we see these results flying at us. there are a couple of bellwether counties that are worth watching in the race. we will probably get some of our first meaningful results in georgia and north carolina where most of the votes are typically counted within a few hours. i will be watching baldwin county, georgia. most everyone is focused on the atlanta metro. that is where about three fist of the state votes are -- state's votes are. it is not just that they have made huge strides in atlanta's severed -- suburbs but they held ground in rural georgia and small-town georgia and places that are losing a black

population. milledgeville has two colleges. it is 41% black. it is a county -- baldwin county voted for both hillary clinton and joe biden by about a point. if trump were to carry it this time, that would indicate that harris is expensing some erosion in either black turnout or support among young and minority voters. if harris does keep the county in her column, that would be a good sign for her chances of metro atlanta overpowering the republican rural reaches of the state. in north carolina, i'm watching outside of charlotte. this is a place that has seen a lot of growth in voters moving out of charlotte. a lot of added diversity relative to 10 years ago. trump won by 20 points in 2016

and only nine in 2020. harris has to keep the margin under five points they have a good chance of flipping north carolina. i will be watching nash county which is outside of the research triangle but a middle income area, racially mixed part of the state. that has been within 1000 votes in every president election since 2004. democrats -- joe biden carried by about 100 votes last time around. if harris keeps that counting her column, that would be a good sign for her. that is part of the first congressional district in the tossup column for house between don davis and republican lori -- that is one of the earliest house indicators. host: that is part of the analysis david wasserman does for cook political report. stephen in arizona, things are

waiting on the republican line. caller: can i talk about the 2020 election and the integrity? my question is if biden was ahead in those five states, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, i think fox's ready to call trump the winter and most of those. if biden was ahead in those states and then they stopped counting, and the problem with not counting -- in the 1860's, they counted. in 1900, they counted. for the first time in our history, five states could not get the results with trump way ahead. if that was reversed, if biden was ahead by a lot and they stopped counting and trump ended up winning every one of those states, i think the democrats would have been infuriated because it does show the possibility of something wrong with the election.

if they stopped counting again i would think it is very suspect. we are in the 21st century no. if they can count back in 1824 and 1860 and all of a sudden in 2020 they stopped counting -- i think they used covid as an x use. -- excuse. guest: there was no order to stop counting ballots when a certain candidate was ahead in 2020. the phallic counting and canvassing -- the ballot counting and canvassing process took longer than it did in the past because there was a deluge of votes cast by mail. the 2020 election was held during a pandemic. there was a spike in absentee voting. there were laws in some states that allowed for the pre-canvassing and pre-tabulation of ballots. the early and advanced absentee

votes were able to be reported by the time the polls closed. that has always been the practice in florida, and georgia, in texas. yet the delay that we saw in those upper battleground states in 2020 was partially by republican designed. they prevented laws from passing in the states that would have allowed for county election officials to tabulate ballots on election day or beforehand so they were ready to be reported at the time the polls closed. it took many hours to count as balance. it created the illusion that trump was initially ahead when in reality the most pro-democratic votes of those who had regarded the pandemic both seriously and cast a ballots by mail had yet to be tallied. every state has procedures to

ensure that votes are only counted once and counted accurately. yes, elections are subject to some very small degree of human error. we did see a case reported in michigan this week involving a foreign national, a noncitizen who successfully registered and cast a ballot on the same day. yet there is absolutely zero evidence of fraud occurring at a widespread scale, enough to tip elections one way or the other. host: zamaz in maryland on the democrats line. caller: the poll numbers are reporting -- do they include the recent comments about puerto rico being garbage? there are a lot of puerto rican celebrities and podcasters that

are urging puerto ricans, millions of them across the united states to vote for harris. also, comment on the maryland senate race between brooke and hogan. harris is going to win. thank you. guest: i don't regard the maryland senate race is particularly competitive anymore. larry hogan would have needed a couple of things to happen to have a chance at winning the race. it is likely he would've needed a different opponent. had david trone, who spent a lot of his money trying to win the primary and alienated voters, it could have been a different race. angela alsobrooks is likely to win by double digits. it is hard for a well-liked

republican like larry hogan to be competitive for federal office. mike kelly jessica taylor has a good overview of the race -- my colleague jessica taylor has a good overview of the race. with regard to the polls we are seeing on hispanic voters, the short answer is no. we don't have enough national polling to capture reaction to the msg rally among a small subset of voters, puerto rican voters. they make up a substantial share of the vote in pennsylvania. yet when we look at our most recent national crosstab average that estimates the support levels among particular groups, kamala harris was leading hispanic voters 54-41 in our most recent crosstab average. that is down 11 points from the 24 point margin exit polls said joe biden won hispanic and latino voters by in 2020.

look, it's a comedian at the trump rally made -- the comments the comedian made are a godsend for harris. they can motivate a group where she's been struggling to match past democratic performance. now that we are seeing a number of celebrity validated coming out against -- validaters, get against trump spurred on by comets about floating garbage, there's no way of knowing the effect it could be uniquely help harris in key states, whether it is pennsylvania, nevada or arizona. host: mike in ohio, independent line. caller: thank you for c-span. i recently turned 71 about a week ago. if i can make a football analogy, most politics is done between the 40 yard lines.

i'm on the 40 yard line, left of center. i was much more left when i went back to kent state in 1971. i just now turned 71. my congresswoman is emilia sykes in the 13th district. she is an african-american. she was born and raised in akron. her opponent is a guy named kevin conklin. they are doing to her with a did to obama. trying to stop -- she was born and raised in akron but she didn't columbus and voted in columbus. they are trying to say because you voted in columbus she should not be able to run in akron. it is like with a deductive -- what they did to obama back in 2008. i don't agree with every issue or with kamala harris on every issue, but for the first time i voted for two african, can women and i hope they both win. not because they are black.

not because they are women but i believe they both have more patriotism than their opponents do. host: that is mike in ohio. guest: this is a really interesting race in the 13th district of ohio. if you just go by the math of the district, it is a seed that biden only won by three points last time. only about 13% of the district's vote is black and there is a black freshman democrat named emilia sykes who comes to my prominent akron political family. a lot of people don't know this but you don't have to be registered to vote or a resident of the district in which you are running to serve as a member of congress. republicans are questioning her residency. she claims she lives in akron. she's in a relationship with an office holder from the columbus area. she has actually been able to

establish a lead over republican kevin conklin because she has clobbered him in fundraising. her ads portray her as a bipartisan member of congress who is attuned to local concerns. they are unique because they show her performing gymnastics and appeal to a lighter side, a more relatable side than most politicians. the republican caughlin got elected in 1996. a lot of consultants acknowledge he's been out of the game for a while. we viewed sykes as a slight favorite heading into election day. the senate race in ohio is also very tight. sherrod brown will need a big margin out of akron, canton, lorraine, the places he used to represent in the house if he's

going to hold his seat against bernie greenough. host: you have been tracking voters as highly engaged and less engaged and newly registered. how did they factor into the race coming up? guest: there is a new divide in politics. we are seeing politics turn on how attuned and engaged voters are with the democratic process. democrats have a growing advantage among the most civic minded voters who always show up not just in presidential years but also in every midterm, every primary, school board election. the final poll showed kamala harris with a four-point lead among those 100% voters. were trump is getting his mojo's from people who are on the lower engagement end of the spectrum. this is true across demographic groups. he's consistently doing better with the lower engagement

voters, ahead by seven in the last poll among anyone less-than-perfect. kamala harris has drawn ahead with new registrants. that has been a difference for where biden was earlier in the year when he was really struggling with young voters and struggling to motivate a lot of young people to register to vote. it is cliche to say. it comes down to turnout. if there's a higher turnout, maybe that is better for trump because you have more peripherally engaged people. if turnout declines a little bit, maybe that is better for harris. we won't know until the polls close. host: how much is early voting and the numbers we are seeing in early voting track determining who wins and loses? guest: yeah. there are a lot of bored analysts right now who don't have many numbers to go on. the total of who is voting early

tend to fill the gap and the need for a lot of people. yet they don't really tell us that much about who has a better chance to win, because even if we know the number of people who have voted early in each jurisdiction, we don't know how those people are voting. we don't know who's going to show up on election day. in georgia right now for example, there is evidence republicans are getting are really strong early vote in very pro-trump counties. whereas there has been lower black participation in early voting. that does not tell you that trump is going to win georgia. it means the democrats probably have a little more work to do to turn out the vote on election day. the reverse can the reverse can be true with mail-in voting. host: mr. wasserman. thank you for your time. we'll go back to ostion we

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host: this is part of campaign 2024 when it comes to you what bring to it. if you support harris-walz, (202) 748-8000. support trump-advance, (202) 748-8001. if you're undecided or neither, (202) 748-8002. let's hear from nelson. this is from maryland. nelson, good morning, go ahead. caller: good morning, pedro. thank you for taking my call. i was calling to ask the question for david. but i just want to say, i'm going to be voting for kamala harris and the reason i'm voting for kamala harris. donald trump hates -- he's brought total chaos. he denigrates our generals, look how he talks about general matusz, general kelly, look how he talks about macmaster and all those folks.

if you ask all those four generals, they've served 154 years in the military. cumulatively. you know how many years donald trump served in the military? zero years. so that's a big issue for me. and that's why i'm voting for kamala harris. another thing. donald trump keeps talking about the border. the border. he was president for four years. he didn't do anything about the border. so what makes him think we're going to believe in him this time? he's still not going to do anything about the border. host: ok, let's hear from van. van is a supporter of vice president harils. go a-- harris. go ahead. caller: yes, thank you for taking my call. what gets me with the republicans and the news outlets that support trump, they listen and believe everything he says, his name calling, his degeneration of all women and everything else.

but you let president biden make one mistake and make a statement because of what that madison square garden comedian said and they're all over him and vice president harris. nobody can control what another person says. they blaming her for what somebody else says. but they never take responsibility for what donald trump and j.d. vance say themselves concerning migrants and americans. now they want to put liz cheney in front of a firing squad and that's ok? that's my point. host: ok, let's hear from a supporter of former president trump, albert in new jersey. go ahead. caller: how are you doing, pedro? good morning. i'm going to vote today for president trump. i wanted to ask mr. wasserman a question. maybe you might know the answer. 2020, they in pennsylvania, they let them votes come in after election day. it was supposed to be closed november 5 at 8:00.

8:00 p.m. and late votes came in and trump was ahead, i remember. two or three days later he lost pennsylvania. are they going to close the polls, do you know anything about 8:00, november 5? this election? coming up? all these polls going to be closed or are they going to take votes in later after they're not supposed to, when they're not supposed to? host: i don't have an answer for that. i apologize. let's go to george in pennsylvania. a support of former president trump. go ahead. caller: yeah, i'm really thinking that donald trump, man, is my best bet. for my business. i grow and sell marijuana. host: ok. that's george there in pennsylvania. whoever wins the next election on tuesday, one of the things that will be determined from that is the federal court system and how that's impacted. that's a focus of the story in

"the new york times" this morning. saying that it's votes that are will set the course of that, saying when voters pick the next president, they'll also be choosing between two visions of the federal judiciary. federal judges are nominated by the president and confirmed by the senate in almost all -- and almost all will serve for life. shaping american law for generations. today around half of all federal judges were nominated by one of the two most recent presidents. host: that's in "the new york times." we'll hear from sherri in dallas, texas. a supporter of vice president harris. go ahead. caller: yes, sir. good morning. i'm voting for harris and walz

and all the democrats up and down the ballot for our freedom and our constitution. if people take the time to read the republicans' project 2025, you will know that it's there to attack everybody. and i mean everybody. women, men, children, the elderly, the military. it's awful. go read project 2025. the republican plan is horrible for america. thank you. host: john in florida, undecided line. you're next up. caller: yes, sir, my name's john. i have a serious issue with both the candidates as far as social security. i worked for the postal service, a letter carrier, for 35 years. i get a very good pension.

but i also worked other jobs. paying into social security. and when i turn -- i'm 70 years old in florida now, trying to enjoy life. i worked my whole life in connecticut, new haven, connecticut. jobs i worked were yale university, custodians, to raise a family, and when i turned 65 five years ago i knew what was coming. i applied for social security and i was entitled to $1180 a month. but because ronald reagan windfall elimination position, postal employees and railroad employees, this is not only for me, it's for hundreds of thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of other postal and railroad employees, we cannot double dip. so instead -- host: what does that all mean for this election coming up? caller: i'd like to know which candidate -- i hear that kamala

is against social security and i was entitled to $1180. i get $143 a month instead of $1180 because we can only collect 10% of what we're supposed to. host: ok. that's john in florida. i invite you, john, to go to our website at c-span.org, by the way, if you want to see what the candidates are saying on topics of social security. a lot of videos there. you can type the search word into the box there and see if any of the candidates and what they referenced when it comes to social security and the future of social security. all that available to you there at c-span.org. supporter of vice president harris, this is in texas. ray, go ahead. caller: hi. my name's ray. and i'm from houston, texas. sugarland, right out -- sugar land, right outside of houston. i support, of course, kamala harris and her efforts to continue the good work of joe biden who has done a terrific

job as president, working as a bipartisan, as he always has, for 50 years. she's had a great learning experience of over 3 1/2 years now from working as vice president, from traveling the world, from working with our allies, to strengthening our economy. to doing things right. as joe biden always has. to do them with integrity, to do them with what's in the best interest of all of us. my father was a reagan democrat. i know a lot of conservatives and a lot of republicans that i consider friends. i consider all of us to be in this together. i also consider foreign policy to be very important. i think ukraine and the 40 million people that depend on our support there that are fighting the good fight for their own freedom, that don't ask us, any of us, to go fight for them, just to support them in their effort to be free, i

think she'll continue that and i think donald trump has shown he's a russian sympathizer, if anything, he's not for ukraine. host: ok, let's hear from another texan. this is john in texas. undecided line. john in texas. hello? one more time for john in texas. hello? let's hear from jim. jim in idaho. a supporter of former president trump. hi. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i'm voting for trump-vance because of border policy, energy policy, safety and law enforcement policy, economic policy, the foreign -- iran is a big problem and that was all funded by biden and obama administration, it continues to be funded by the biden administration now. i trust in vance and trump.

and i don't know what harris really stands for. thank you for taking my call. host: jim in idaho. one of the features of last night's rally with kamala harris was comments from the singer and actress jennifer lopez, particularly made about those recent comments made about puerto rico. at madison square garden. hear comments from jennifer lopez. >> at madison square garden, he reminded us who he really is and how he really feels. it wasn't just puerto ricans that were offended that day. ok? it was every latino in this country. it was humanity and anyone of decent character. [cheers and applause] look. you -- i'm a lover. ok? you guys know that about me. i'm a lover. i am not a fighter.

i'm not here to trash anyone or bring them down. i know what that can feel like. and i wouldn't do it to my worst enemy. or even when facing the biggest adversary i think america has internally ever had. but over kamala harris' entire career, she has proven us -- to us, who she is. she has shown up for us every day, for the people. and it's time for us to show up for her. it's time for us -- it's time for us to all answer presente. i am an american woman. i am the daughter of, a proud daughter and son of puerto rico. i am puerto rican.

puerto rican.i was born here ane americans. i have a mother, i am a mother, i am a sister, i am an actor and an entertainer and i like hollywood endings. i like when the good guy or in this case the good girl wins. and with an understanding of our past and a faith in our future, i will be casting my ballot for kamala harris for president of the united states proudly. [cheers and applause] proudly. host: you can see those full comments, that rally, at our website on our app. let's hear from a voter who is voting for neither, this is rose in tennessee. hi. caller: hello. you do not have to choose between the two awful, terrible choices, both of which support a consult free masonry and jesuits

which are a renegade sect of the catholic church. you do not have to pick the least egregious as they've told you to do for seven election cycles. pick any of the outlier, any of them, and break up the uniparty that protected epstein's pedo island, groomed diddy to be a predator and funded gain of function to make a bioweapon for depopulation. both sides are evil. they both work for a small oligarchy who hate women, abuse children and are out to destroy humanity. host: linda in wisconsin, a supporter of former president trump. good morning. caller: yes. this is linda. the joke that was told by the comedian at the trump rally was -- he was somebody that trump did not know. he did not approve this comedian. he did not make that statement. so you can't be responsible for everything said by everybody. also on the abortion issue,

trump said he would not sign, not sign a national abortion ban. he's also for i.v.f. it's a state issue. so if all the ladies in the state would like it to go a certain way, i believe they should go and talk to their state legislatures. i think we can come up with a reasonable amount, you cannot get the democrats to say there would be any cutoff date regarding abortions. i think there could be a 6-week abortion cutoff date. you could also have all the things that you say, not for rape or incest, the life and health of the mother. all those could be included on a state ballot. so i'm just hoping that the ladies out there would start talking to their state legislatures and that trump would not sign a national abortion ban. host: ok. in minnesota, c.j., this is c.j.

from minneapolis. a supporter of vice president harris. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. yes, i think that kamala harris deserves a chance, but i know that once she wins, i wonder if the senate is going to sabotage her like they did obama and block everything she tries to do. that's my concern. thank you. have a nice day. host: c.j. there in minneapolis. a couple of stories, looking at the topic of transitions, particularly on the side of former president trump. this is the "wall street journal." meet the head hunter in chief of the former president, he's 63 years old, he's maga's top emsear on wall street, a place where some executives have embraced former president trump's tax policys but they're leiery of the tone of his rallies.

host: that's quoted. that's in the "wall street journal." if you want to read that there. when it comes to the other transition aspect, "the washington post" picking that up. this is the headline, the form president testing congress' bid to fix presidential transitions saying if there's no apparent winner within five days of the election, every federal agency will be required on november 11 -- to open its doors to both trump and vice president harris' campaigns so they can simultaneously begin the sprint to install a new administration.

host: there's more there when it comes to talk of transitions in the papers this morning. let's hear from wisconsin. this is where john is. a supporter of the former president. hello. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. i want to bring to light the double standard as far as what the previous wisconsin caller said. as far as the puerto rican statement made by a comedian. i just verified and heard a clip of julia louis-dreyfus who spoke

at the d.n.c. convention in chicago in episode four of "veep," she walked in and said, it smells like puerto rico in here. how come no one's bringing that up? and a second question i have is about the edit of the transcript of joe biden using the word apostro if i of the word supporters is. there's ethical violations going on inside the white house as far as coming to changing legal government document transcripts to put a narrative in which joe biden called myself and every other trump supporter garbage. those are my two statements and i thank you very much for taking my call. host: a supporter of the vice president, this is rita in maryland. caller: good morning. i'm rita in capital height, maryland. i would like to send gratitude and my support for kamala harris

and staff, may god bless you on that special day in jesus' name. amen. host: a supporter of neither candidate from vermont. this is barbara. caller: hi. so i wasn't going to vote because climate change is one thing and the democrats, i'm not really sure. so anyway, yesterday i was watching -- well, i was on twitter, and i heard there were two representatives, one was a woman, one was a man, the guy from nebraska. i think his name was bacon. and they were talking about -- this is kind of like opening up my eyes a little bit, how the inflation reduction act actually is spending $3 million under the names of climate, but it's actually come to groups that are for defunding the police, closing prisons, so it's kind of

like they're against the united states. so that opened up my eyes. i tried googling it, couldn't find it. but i put it in my archives on twitter and so i'm concerned that the democrat party is doing open borders. so it's out there, but it's hard to find. host: barbara, you're breaking up there. apologies for that. let's hear from michael in texas. supporter of former president trump. go ahead. caller: yes, sir. thank you for taking my call. i'm just believing in trump that he's got the knowledge and the experience to maybe pull this country out. voting for kamala harris would just be insanity. that's the definition, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting something else is the definition of insanity. she'd been there four years,

never done anything. her and biden destroyed the border. the economy. and what people don't realize is this dead, this national dead, -- debt, this national debt is fixing to destroy this country. if spg doesn't change we're going to be in deep trouble. i always ask people wharyks going to happen when -- people, what's going to happen when they can't borrow any more money to give away? then what's going to happen? let's just say, go trump. go trump. go trump. thank you for letting me speak. host: from temple hills, maryland. a supporter of neither candidate. this is jay. hi. caller: good morning. pedro, real quick. there's a small group of avid c-span watchers, we call ourselves the crazy 88's and we have given rankings to some of the hosts. john is the most friendliest and we have ranked you as the most improved. at one point you didn't show any emotions, no smile, no laughter. but you have improved that. i mean, so congratulations on

that. now, as far as the candidates go, what a choice. we have to pick between a 34-count felon and a war-mongering, genocidal administration with biden-harris. i know the c-span, y'all don't give as many updates on what's going on in gaza with the genocide, and with the biden-harris administration breaking federal law, the leahy act, and the biden going after censorship for u.s. citizens, you don't talk about it. issues that you want to cover, you are unbiased on issues you choose to cover, but you don't choose to cover some of the issues that are -- host: i'll break agreement with you there only because when it comes to the events of israel, gaza and otherwise, we've spent quite a bit of time on this

program over the many weeks leading up to the election and even some during the election talking about these things. you can go to our website to find it out. i'll let you finish. go ahead. caller: ok. last thing, is there any plans to have either jill, what about dr. cornell west? any plans for him to be back on? host: we've had him a couple of times leading up to the election. i don't see that being in the plans only because of the closeness of election day. as always, you can hear their interviews of both of those that you mentioned, been on several times, if you go to our website at c-span.org, they have both been featured on this program. you can find their interviews and see what they have to say and the issues they believe in. a supporter of vice president harris. this is jack in pennsylvania. go ahead. caller: hi, pedro. listen, there's three categories of the trump voter.

there's the ultrarich, who if they get nothing else, they don't care about any women's rights or any health care for people that don't have that, they get their tax break, they're fine with that. the second group are bigots and racists that, they're not going to vote for anybody that's not a white, rich republican. and the third are just the uninformed people who tune in to the 5 and think they're getting real news. i appreciate publications like you guys that are -- try to be unbiased and just put people out there. but you got donald trump who thinks he can just go out and insult people. he's attacked every group out there and there's 500,000 puerto ricans that live in pennsylvania. it's going to come down to us. and it's going to be a landslide. so i'll just sit back and watch. host: ok. a support of former president trump.

this is from kentucky. we'll hear from susan. hi. caller: good morning. i'm sorry, i have a little bit of a cold. but i went to kroger to get some fritos, $5. hamburger is up $5 a pound. i cannot afford her and she seems very phoney. she sucks up to the trans people now and she sucks up to the women that want abortions. i will never vote for anyone that is for abortions. i am for babies' rights. she slept allegedly with the man in california that promoted her to two really good jobs and she just seems so phony to me. i haven't heard anything she's done in four years that she's been vice president.

nothing. but now all of a sudden she supposedly has done all these wonderful things. i can't afford her and i don't care for her. host: ok. that's kentuckian calling in, again, a half hour to go if you want to party in this four days up until election day. we've opinion showing you the phone leans -- we've been showing you the phone lines. pick the one that best represents you, if you would. if you have called within 30 days, hold off on doing so today. one of the things we had a chance to do leading up to election day was talk to a representative of the associated press, david scott. he talked about how the a.p. tracks races and the process they go through to declaring winners on election night. here's part of that interview. >> the thing that we're looking to do is just answer one question. can the trailing candidates catch the leader? and at the point at which we've determined based on our hook at vote could -- vote count and our analysis, our analysis of our election survey, a.p. vote cast, when we're interviewing more than 100,000 voters, as they cast their ballot, our analysis

of the advanced vote, registration statistics, all of the data that's available to us, when we've determined that data makes it very clear that the trailing candidates can't catch the leader, that's when we're able to declare a winner. >> how do you sort through all that data? that is a lot of data to sort through in a timely manner, to make a call. >> the associated press will be declaring winners in 4800 elections this november and that assumes none of those go to run aoff which of course some of them will -- runoff, which of course some of them will. so it is a tremendous amount of data. we do it with a tremendous team. it's a big team. so our decision team at a.p., 06 people, several of whom are full-time focused on elections. so they're always working on this all of the time. but under that is the team that's generating that data. so we'll have totality across the associated press, about 5,000 people on the night of the general election who are working to collect the vote. count the vote. quality check it, analyze it,

publish it and then ultimately declare winners. >> why and how is it that the associated press can call a race right after polls close in that state? >> it's very rare that we would do that. it's only in a small number of states where that's possible. and it's because we can look at the data from past elections, we can understand the electoral history of a state, we can look at registration statistics, we can look at the advanced vote statistics, and then we can look at results from our survey. and if all of those things line up to show that once again a candidate will have a commanding win in a state, we're able to declare a winner as soon as polls close. but it's only a small number places where that's possible. >> when do you think you will hold off on-calling a race or what would be the circumstances? >> when we're not certain. and that's our standard. we aim for -- our standard is when 100% accuracy. if we are not certain that there's without a shadow of a doubt, that the trailing

candidates can't catch the leader, then we hold off. and if we think it's possible that the race could flip, that those trailing candidates have a path to victory, as small as it might be, as long as that path to victory exists, we can't say who has won yet. >> how many people make the final decision? >> for the race for the president, it's a big team. so we start with a race caller who is looking at the race in a state very closely, very focused on a single state. they then work with an analyst who is looking at several states. if they both agree, then the decision goes up to a decision editor who reviews all of the work and then all three of them need to agree that the race is ready to be called. and when we get into a battleground state, or a state that we think is going to be particularly close, or a state that might ultimately lead a candidate to reach 270 electoral votes, then myself, our washington bureau chief and our executive editor, we all come into that conversation as well. but in reality, it's not nearly

as linear as that. we're a big team, we're all together on a election night, we're all looking at the data and all of us have to agree that a race is ready to be called before we can declare a winner. host: let's hear from callie in arkansas. a supporter of vice president harris. caller: good morning. my comment is, i can't understand why and how someone's running for president and his v.p. runningmate, why do they call people illegal aliens? i don't understand it. that should show people right there that you don't have no respect for yourself or the people that you want to head off. i don't understand it. i don't have no respect for him. he's always talking about people they call kamala kamala. she's disrespectful right there. as far as trump, what about

somebody saying about the toupee he's wearing. when the incident happened with him, his toupee almost came off and showed his bald spot. host: angel in south carolina on our undecided line. caller: hi, how are you? i noticed that -- [indiscernible] -- has something against weak women and tim walz has a little bit of a mannerism also. they should look at themselves and see why they feel like that about women. maybe they're part of the feminines that came out unexpectedly. what do you think? host: i'll just read you the response from mark cuban. he said this, when i said this during the interview, didn't get it out exactly the way i thought i did, so i apologize to anyone

who felt slighted or upset by my response. as i said, it wasn't about trump voters, supporters or employees, current or former. host: let's hear from albuquerque, new mexico. supporter of former president trump. this is james. caller: yes, sir, thank you. i say this. you would throw the first stone. the democrats get on the air here, there was a gentleman i think from pennsylvania, he said that trump and his supporters insult everybody. well, he was doing it on his call. he was insulting trump supporters and trump.

and another thing is that trump was president for four years and all the things that the media and the democrats are saying that trump's going to put people in jail and on and on, he never did that in his four years. and i tell a lot of people, look, everybody has a personality on both sides. don't vote on personality. you got to vote on policy. what's good for the united states, what's good for the individual. and i just don't understand it. i want to make one last comment on the abortion issue. this is how it can be settled very easily in the states. the states have it in their hands. i truly believe this is what will solve it. those people that choose to have an abortion, ask them only. because don't ask me. don't charge me, don't take money out of my pocket because i'm pro-life. so i think that would be a very simple way to solve it is, ok,

if you're for abortion, ok, then tax those people and take it out of their pocket. but don't take it out of mine. host: ok. james in new mexico there. "the washington post" takes a look at the possibility if former president trump wins another term in office, of the role that robert f. kennedy jr. might play in that administration. this is a series of people writing that saying that kennedy, mr. kennedy, has been privately meeting with trump transition officials --

host: in virginia, mike on our undecided line. you're next up. go ahead. caller: good morning, everyone. i respond to one lady talking about $5 hamburger and $2. presidents don't control prices. and if we tried to control it, they would call them communists. anyway. so i'm undecided until yesterday. i heard senator sanders, on the issue of gaza, human rights, if you don't stand for human rights, you don't stand for anything. so i wasn't going to support -- i never supported republican, never will. but i wasn't going to support

harris but sanders said yesterday, if she wins, he will work with her to stop the war in gaza and lebanon and stand i hope i can trust senator sanders to do this. otherwise i will never vote again. host: ok. let's hear from joeanne. joe joanne's in florida. caller: i'm so happy we have harris fighting for all americans and i'm so disappointed that so many americans have been conned by a con man. and made to hate america, americans and our government. and i pray and i hope to the universe that everybody gets out and votes for harris, for our freedom and democracy. and do away with project 2025 and trump. he belongs in jail and we all know it.

i'm a victim of rape and he's 100% a sexual predator bound to be a sexual predator in a court of law. 34 felonies, he's unfit to be our president. thank you for listening. caller: north carolina next, -- host: north carolina next. a supporter of former president trump. this is ginny. go ahead. caller: i just wanted to say, maybe you or another news media outlet can say that beyonce has been paid $11 million to perform, she didn't perform, she just spoke and read a paper. schwarzenegger got $8 million. i wonder how much j-lo got yesterday for just speaking and maybe you can mention what she has done for puerto rico because she's getting millions to read off of a paper and talk about puerto ricans. but what has she done? but anyway, that's neither here nor there. maybe somebody could come up with how much money harris is

paying when people think they're getting a concert and they're just getting speeches. but anyway. i just want to say too. i'm listening to all these people and everybody's torn. but with elon musk and j.f.k. and vance, this is going to be a team made in heaven. and i'm just for trump. i'm voting for religious freedom. you christians out there, you're voting for god. you're not voting for trump. you people that don't like trump, you can like or dislike anybody you want. but you really need to look at the picture of what trump is going to accomplish. we are going into socialism. i'm listening to some of these people talking about records. she has been in for four years. what is she fixing? she's fixing her own damage. i don't understand. host: ok. that's ginny there. here's what to expect on our networks today in these final days of campaigning. when it comes to campaign 2024. you can see all of these events on our main channel, c-span. our app, c-span now.

c-span.org as well. senator vance will be in portage, michigan. that event at 1:00 this afternoon. vice president harris in janesville, wisconsin. that will be later on this afternoon at 3:30. about an hour after that, at 4:30, trump trump, former president trump in warren, michigan. that's the event on c-span to watch out for. on c-span2, governor walz in detroit. host: you can see that all at c-span 2 the free video app and c-span.org as well. part of our coverage of campaign 2024. we're asking your thoughts leading up to the election. joe flex on maryland, the line for undecideds.

joe, hello. caller: good morning, pedro. thank you for your dedication to trying to be a fair man. you do a great job. maybe you do have a lean but what person doesn't have a heart? and that said, i think you lean both ways. i think you do all that stuff, brother, and i apologize talking about you, but you've been critiqued, you've been this and that. i'm just blessed you're there all the time. that said, me and my family appreciate you. my wife and kids. they hate me listening to c-span all day, but they know it's a blessing. so that said, i want to talk about the election. everybody -- i hear my people and they're not -- i'm their worker. my people. but i live in d.c. my whole life. i'm 55. i have four daughters and a wife and my parents are deceased. my mother died in a veterans home. people kept turning her oxygen off. just what we found out. that said, people say trump's this andujar sis that -- and harsis that. if you like trump you're this.

and if you like harris, you're that. i have one thing to say. i've been in d.c. my whole life. i want to be in politics but people think you're the worst thing on earth when you say that. i don't even want the money. there's something about n.w.o. you've heard george bush say new world order, right? he said that the love times, right? host: you've said that. so go ahead and finish your thought. guest: george bush said it 100 times. i've heard kamala harris say the new world order and trump say it. i don't know what the new world order is but they all talk about it. my prediction is real quick. harris wins. trump does his job, gets the whole world ruckussed up. and we pay in the middle, divided, do you like the washington commanders or the dallas cowboys? you have to pick a side all the time. host: gotcha. let's hear from janet. janet in texas. supporter of former president trump. go ahead. caller: thank you. i have three things that concern me about kamala harris.

the first, the mayor of san francisco was her boyfriend, got her elected as san francisco district attorney because the current d.a. at that time was pursuing a legal -- illegal cases against his friends, donors and him. they pulled their money. whether they got her elected, the cases were dropped. i'm also concerned about the articles who said harris did not prosecute the catholic priest who molested all those children after she left. they had to have a special law to get those kids reimbursed. i'm concerned that she will, like she accuses trump, follow the billionaires and do what she's told and, again, we will have inflation because all that end to money, supply will be out there and they'll are to print money again. that causes inflation. thank you very much for your time. host: here's helen, helen's in north carolina. a supporter of vice president harris.

go ahead, you're next. caller: good morning. i'm voting for vice president kamala harris. because of the health care democratic policy. when my son, he graduated from college in 2009, he did not have medical care. but with the affordable care act, which is obamacare, my son, he was able to get medical care on my health care policy up to age of 26. and i also, one of the policies i liked, vice president kamala harris is that she would like in-home medicare. my family, we just recently had to take my mom out of a low performing nursing home. and thank god right now she's at home now. that's my comment. host: there was back and forth a couple days ago when mike johnson was making critical comments about the state of obamacare, promising reforms if

the former president wins. he was on fox business yesterday, clarifying those comments, talking about what the future of the affordable care act could be like if republicans do win. here's a short portion from yesterday. >> i was at one of these events in pennsylvania a few days ago and a question came up about obamacare and i answered it very specifically. i said, a.c.a. unfortunately is deeply ingrained in our health care system now. do we need further improvements? absolutely. we need to expand quality of care, access to care and obviously lower the cost of health care. and i started talking about that. well, they took a clip out of context and said that i said we were promising to repeal obamacare. that's just not what i said. it's actually the opposite of that. so that's just another example of what -- they have nothing to run on. they have no policies of their own in the harris campaign, and democratics running for house and senate so they're spinning our words and attacking donald trump. that's their entire campaign. host: here is eddie from

richmond, texas. a supporter of neither candidate. good morning. caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. actually, i just wanted to ask my fellow americans to think about the fact that we just really need a new -- a reform of congress. and a reform of the senate. what i see is a very corrupt government and because -- and people who go there to represent us eventually go and represent themselves. because they are waiting for the next check from special interest lobbyists, those are the things that they are doing. they're getting paid by those people for their vote. not us. they're supposed to be representing us, the people. and that's not happening. and i just want, you know, us to think about that and how we as americans can just come together and try to take back or reform our government. because right now, everything is

being bought and paid for. either side, both sides, by, you know, massive amounts of money. and that's really how things are being done or not getting done. and i just really want us to think about that. it doesn't matter which side you support, that's not the point. the point is what is getting done? on behalf of everyone? and not very much. host: ok. from dubuque, iowa, this is kathy. supporter of vice president harris. go ahead. caller: hi. thank you for taking my call. i guess before i say anything else, i just want to say, i am a public educator. and i am really concerned at the inability for lots of americans at this point to analyze their news sources and determine what is fact and what is not. what is persuasive or polarized or propaganda. so that's a concern of mine. i guess i am voting for vice

president harris. i feel like if she does represent a more moderate form of -- more moderate ideas than donald trump does. and i also just feel like money, i agree with the last caller, money does need to be taken out of senate and out of the house of representatives. people are making that a career and it was never intended to be that. i think that we do need to have some term limits that would help because the president can't do this alone. it really is, you know, all the branches working together and when they're taking money and making a career out of it and looking out for number one instead of the people, then that becomes a problem. so i really do feel like the harris-walz ticket is the only way forward. host: ok. let's hear from dave in ohio.

supporter of the former president. go ahead. caller: thank you, pedro. it has bothered me for four years why harris and biden opened the border, what rational reason is there to do that? well, it's become obvious, that is to import 10 million or 20 million voters for the long-term. now, the second thing is, they wanted to destroy anything trump. so they destroyed the catch and release. they destroyed the wall. and in this way, they were able to quickly change the country for the worse, in my opinion. now, remember harris said on tape, on television, on a talk show, during the riots in portland and seattle, these people will not stop and they

should not stop burning buildings. and destroying cities. i think she's the reincarnation of angela davis. look her up. host: ok. dave there in ohio. let's -- in case you missed it, we had the opportunity this week to hear from the cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency. the head of that agency talking about protections when it comes to elections, particularly when it comes to cybersecurity issues. here's a portion of that interview that took place earlier this week. >> the threat environment has never been more complex. there are serious cyberthreat, ransomware, denial of service so you can't get to websites. there's very serious physical threats to election officials. and there is a range of very serious threats from our foreign adversaries. from russia. from iran. from china. they're using different tactics, but they are focused on two main goals, to undermine american trust in our democracy and our

confidence in elections, and to sow partisan discord. basically pitting americans against each other. so we are focused on the full range. we've been working with election officials since the beginning of this cycle to provide physical assessments, we've done nearly 1200 for physical security, 700 for cybersecurity. we've done nearly 200 exercises to work with election officials in the full range of scenarios where you could have incidents or disruptions and we've done hundreds of trainings to help election officials reduce risk to election systems and processes. i do want americans to understand that despite this threat environment, as i said, no matter who you vote for, you can have confidence that your vote will be counted as cast and why am i saying that? a few things. so to prevent digital interference, voting machines are not connected to the internet. really important to understand that. to prevent digital manipulation, over 97% paper ballots.

and to guarantee near zero human manipulation, there are multiple, multiple layers of safeguards, physical security, cybersecurity, pre-election testing of equipment, post-election auditing, to ensure that election infrastructure is safe from compromise. and the last thing that americans should understand is every state runs elections differently. different equipment, different processes. the saying goes, if you've seen one state's election, you've seen one state's election. and that diverse and decentralized nature of our election infrastructure is actually a great strength. because it means it's not possible for a bad actor to tamper with or try and manipulate our voting systems in a way where you can have an impact on the outcome of the presidential election. certainly not without being detected. host: there's a lot more to that interview and if you want to see it, you can go to our website at c-span.org for that full interview that took place, a couple of calls in there too

about the security of elections from that agency. again, c-span.org is where you find it. monica in south carolina. supporter of vice president harris. go ahead. caller: good morning. i listen to c-span often. i don't -- this is my first time calling. i just want to say, several people called about not having an issue his last presidential election, that he didn't do a lot of the things that they say he would do this time. the last time that he was in office for four years, there were a lot of stops. jeff sessions was there as attorney general. and he went on to the second attorney general and they told him that the things that he had wanted to do, he could not do. well, this time he has a lot of people who are -- will be there

to not stop him. so therefore all of the things that he says that he's going to do about retribution, he's going to do. host: ok. one more call. this is from tim in illinois. a supporter of former president trump. go ahead. caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. i want to talk about the money that's coming in to these campaigns and a lot of that money is coming from the george soros. i consider our current administration a george soros administration. people don't realize the amount of money that he's spending to get his district attorneys elected throughout the country. he's also bought 200 radio stations recently in this country. and i think that there's a lot of funding to these illegal aliens that's coming from that

money source. the one lady asked why people call them illegal aliens. i believe it's stated that way in the united states constitution. and that's really what i want people to start realizing what's going on with this money coming into the country that way. from that source. i believe he's trying to destroy the country and thank you for taking my call. host: ok. tim from illinois. finishing off our calls for this program. thanks to all of you who participated. remember, a lot of events leading up to election day, be sure you stay close to c-span for that. stay close to c-span on election day and days afterward as we provide you complete coverage of the events of this year's electionment on tuesday into wednesday and beyond. again, more information there at our campaign 2024 site at c-span.org. that's it for our program today. another edition of "washington journal" comes your way tomorrow morning. we'll see you then. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]

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